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Are you struggling to find your purpose in life? Do you feel like something
is missing and you need some guidance?
Do you often feel unfulfilled with what you're doing on a day-to-day basis?
Well, I'm here to tell you, you don't have to feel that way anymore.
I'm here to help you through your journey in life to gain clarity,
find purpose, and passion.
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My name is Jose Miguel Longo. I'm a gay Hispanic, a husband,
dog daddy, advocate for social justice, and DEI, ally for all LGBTQ+,
a career and life coach and millennial born in 1983.
I have spent my time since the age of 14 working my way around the world of work.
I know my God-given talents are to help those around me to gain clarity in their
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lives while finding their passion and purpose.
For the last decade, I've spent my time coaching college students and alums
from all three generations X, Y, and Z in designing their career stories and
mapping what they want to do in their lives.
Whether it's gaining clarity in who you are and what you're meant to do,
learning to build a resume or write a cover letter, holding you accountable
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into Coaching for Millennials.
Hey everyone, and welcome back to the show, Coaching for Millennials.
I'm back here with another episode, and today we're talking about job search
resilience, overcoming layoffs, and embracing change.
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Before we kick off today's episode, I want to read a little something to you
that I came across earlier last week that really resonated with me.
And given the conversation I want to have today with you on the episode,
I feel like it really resonates.
So this is a statement that I found from Genshin Shirou's You Are a Badass calendar pull-off, I guess.
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It's from back on March 28th. Sometimes when I look at my calendar and I rip
off these affirmations or quotes or things of that sort,
I tend to save them if they really resonate with me, whether it's for me to
to go back to look at for another day or for me to remind myself of something
that really is pivotal or important or I want to share with someone else.
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So this one really stuck with me because as a career life coach,
one of the things that I started out with my practice was really helping people
overcome and uncover what their fears are.
You have to understand why your fears exist in the first place before you can
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actually take action to overcome them and to really move beyond the space of
feeling really comfortable in your uncomfortableness.
So this one particularly talks about when it comes to changing your life,
if you're not scared, you're doing something wrong.
I'm going to read that again. Again, when it comes to changing your life,
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if you're not scared, you're doing something wrong.
And it's just this powerful quote. I don't know if Jen Chinchero wrote this.
If you don't know who Jen Chinchero is, I will link in the show notes,
her website, also the link to the actual calendar.
It looks like this if you're watching on YouTube.
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Not sure how much of it you can see because of my ring light,
but it says you're a badass. And every day there's a new quote or there's a
new phrase or a new story.
But I have been using that tool for probably about five or six years now.
It's one of my favorite tools to have. It's on my desk all the time, as you saw.
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But I will bring more of these as we kind of bring more episodes every single
week. And if there's something that really resonates with me, I will also share them.
So I will link the calendar. calendar
i mentioned sure if you want to check her out i actually have a couple
of her books she's so great i really love her and if you
follow her twitter sort of god i'm not
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being paid for this but if you follow her on twitter she has some great quotes
that if you subscribe or if you i don't know what the word is called maybe it
is just subscribe you can get notifications when she posts something every single
day and every morning i open my phone and i have some some great quotes from her.
So definitely worth checking out.
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I hope everyone's having an amazing week. As I mentioned before,
this is a really great episode topic. They're obviously always all good.
But this one in particular, I think because of what we're seeing in the world,
when it comes to the world of work in the world of career, a lot has happened, a lot is changing.
And I want to address a couple of things when it comes to how do you overcome
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that change, especially when you're in a place of feeling a little bit emotional
about what's happening to you.
In particular if you were in a job search mode, but you're in a job search mode
not because you decided to go on job search mode by yourself,
because you were laid off.
So let's kick this episode off.
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I'm Jose Miguel Longo. I'm your host and welcome to Coaching for Millennials.
So today we're going to explore strategies for career and life success.
Ultimately, the strategies we're talking about are specific to the journey of
job loss and how do you rebuild build from there.
So obviously losing a job can be a challenging experience, but it's also an
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opportunity for growth and resilience.
We're going to dive into practical tips and mindset shifts to help you navigate
through your layoff and embrace change with confidence.
So one of the first things I want to talk about, particularly around this topic,
is the emotional impact that comes with with losing a job.
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And regardless if you lost your job because you were laid off,
or you lost your job because you were terminated, or you lost your job because the company closed,
which could also be considerably off, that could be a huge detriment to not
just our financial well-being or our physical well-being and our mental well-being,
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but it impacts all things things around us and can create a lot of uncertainty,
can create a lot of shock and disappointment.
And the thing that's important to know is that you have to acknowledge your
feelings of what is happening in the moment.
It's almost like you have to grieve, okay? You know, we talk about grief oftentimes
and putting on that, you know, emotional intelligence hat to really overcome certain things.
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The most important thing to note here is that you need to give yourself permission
mission to process those emotions.
And unlike any other thing that happens in your life that is critical and has
a high impact, this is one of those.
Whether you've experienced job loss before or this is your first time experiencing
it, it happens differently each time it does.
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A little personal story for me, when during the 2008 recession,
I actually was working for a company.
And this company was a global company. We had offices in China,
and we had manufacturing plants in China.
And the company that I was working for at the time I was doing sales internationally
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was requiring me to sign a no-compete because a new competitor came into town.
And I was already feeling a certain way about some of the practices that this
company held that ultimately for me felt a little funky. and mostly because I was working my ass off.
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I mean, when I tell you working my ass off, I was doing well over 150,000 in
sales in a bi-weekly basis.
And back then commission that I was getting paid on was about 10 to 15 cents
on the dollar, which is not a lot of money when you're selling that much in sales.
I shouldn't be getting a huge commission payout.
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And it was a lot. I mean, I worked at this company for over a year and a half
I felt like, well, if a competition is coming into play, you know,
let's go, let's have at it, like, let's be the competitor.
But their reason for doing the no compete or was obviously because they didn't
want their employees to leave, and they didn't want their employees to take
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their customers. So business practice right there.
I chose not to sign the no compete. So when he decided to not sign it, I had to leave my job.
So it was the option of signing and staying, excuse me, or not signing and leaving.
And I chose to not sign it because I felt like if there's an opportunity for
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me to better myself, my family, my personal growth, my professional growth, why not?
Obviously, a job is a job. and we as human beings put a lot of emotional weight into what a job does.
A job is a resource that gives us financial stability.
We as human beings, if we put our minds to it, can create any form of financial
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stability that we want to.
Now, I know this is easier said than done. This is not me preaching about quitting
your job or leaving your job.
I made that decision for me because I was curious about this competitor.
And I also felt like, look, I want more for myself.
And if a company is coming to town and willing to pay people more money,
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that's a threat to the company that I was working for.
There was never any form of loyalty on the company that I was working for to
offer me an incentive to stay.
They wanted me just to sign this no compete with no increase in my base pay
and no increase in my commission.
When I had already been working for them, making them a lot of money, over two years.
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So I left the company and I was immediately hired to go work for the other company.
It didn't even take 30 days from the time that I left to the time that I started the new job.
And at the new company, there was two other employees that had left the old
company to go work there, which was also why this little threat happened to play a.
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A situation why there's no compete came to play. In that process,
and I'm going to make this story as short as possible, but I feel like I have
to tell the full story to really understand it.
The market at the time was not the greatest.
Companies were closing left and right. If anyone listens to the show and was
around at that time, this was also the time where the housing crisis crisis was catapulting.
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So people were buying homes that couldn't afford them, and the banks were foreclosing.
And then there was the bailout that happened with the US government for the auto companies.
So a lot financially was a crisis that was happening where tons of companies
were closing, tons of businesses were closing, people were losing their jobs
left and right, people were getting laid off left and right. It was just not good.
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For me, I was also working but also going going to school.
So I was trying to get my associate's degree. Non-traditional student,
first-generation student, working a full-time job, going to school part-time.
Really hard, all the things. But I wanted so badly to grow.
I wanted so badly to have an opportunity to really give myself the opportunity to grow.
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So this new company has two new employees.
They're paying these employees a significant
salary double the amount that we
were making when we were working at the other company i came
in getting over double my salary and
an amazing commission structure for my sales so i came in as the director of
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international sales for the company at a global scale so that came with not
just the salary that was significantly significantly higher,
you know, huge base salary,
but also a really good commission structure that was, I don't want to say what the percentage was,
but I remember my first commission check from that company.
I was, I was, it was a pretty penny.
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Anyway, long story short, the company ended up getting sued by my former employer.
I don't remember what the lawsuit entailed and the reason for getting sued was,
but part of it was because the two employees that left before took company property
and was using it at the new company to improve or better their services.
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So that was one of the reasons. But I don't know what led to the full lawsuit
to suing the company as opposed to just suing the employees.
The way out of this for the company,
again, loyalty to a company is not always the best thing, was for the company
to fire all three of us and to go into business. This was the settlement they went on.
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Don't ask me all the in-between. It's a really deep thing.
It's a juicy conversation. I don't remember all the ins and outs of it.
This is over a decade ago.
But the way out of it was for the company to fire all three of us and to then close.
So I got laid off, obviously. We closed the office that I was working at.
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They weren't able to hire any US employees.
And then the manufacturing facility in China went into business to manufacture
a product for the old company. So this company manufactured telecommunication products.
When I say telecommunication, I'm talking about the cables that connect to your internet provider,
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the cables that connect to the outside poles for internet, the cables that connect
to a rack mount enclosure in a electronics closet, those types of things and that type of equipment.
It's a really lucrative business, especially in the mid to late 2000s,
but also the changing of technology.
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So you have a company that's making things in China for a fraction of the cost.
And the company that I left to go work for was making them a lot less than the
company that I used to work for.
So it became just a really big, dramatic thing.
Long story short, in a period of less than a year, I lost my job twice.
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Not fun and talk about instability financially
it just became really chaotic so the
moral of all that was really that i learned from that moment forward that i
should never contribute my emotional side investing into a company if i don't
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realize that company's investing in me first.
And you should write that down.
Because I think that when we look at comparatively, to the 2000s to the 2020s,
I guess we could call this narrow, almost 20 years later, I guess.
The average person sees in a job two and a half years.
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And I know we're not talking about job searching from a perspective of looking
for a job because you're leaving, but the having that loss, and it's such a short period of time.
And if you're experiencing this loss right now, and you're listening to this episode,
I think it really is important to understand that you should really process
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all of the feelings and emotions you have of that loss so that you can then start to rebuild.
Start to then go back to the process of what do you do next?
And sometimes that means that you need to really define what your next move.
And we'll talk about that here in a little bit. it.
So first things first, be sure to give yourself some grace, be sure to be compassionate
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with yourself, and to really process and grieve those emotions that you're feeling.
So that said, it's really processing and having self-compassion.
Now, obviously, it's not an easy conversation to have, whether it's with your
friends or your loved ones, but really having someone that you can speak to
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that can help you overcome or get through it.
It's going to be really important to your mental well-being,
to your emotional well-being, but also to help you get started with your next steps.
Because if you're in that phase where everything just hurts and you're just
angry, you can't live in the angry phase forever.
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Those steps of grief work not just for when you lose a loved one,
but they work for everything else.
And I don't remember them off
the top of my head, but they're definitely ones that you should follow.
Once we get over that sting, right, that period of shock, the period of grief,
the period of loss, we want to start embracing what our career journey looks like.
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And what I mean by that is assessing your skills and strengths, okay?
This is really the opportunity to start to think about what have been your biggest
accomplishments throughout your career, and that can be in the last five to
ten years and what have been the skills you've developed that you want to be sure to showcase,
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as you continue to think about what your next move might be.
And maybe you're not thinking about the next move holistically.
Maybe you're just thinking about, God, I really want to go back into something,
but maybe not the same thing you're doing.
Or maybe you want to go back into what you were doing, just not in the same type of role.
That's when you really need to start the conversation of like,
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what are my skills? What are my accomplishments? And what am I really passionate about?
The other thing is important to probably consider taking some form of a self-assessment
that can really help you gain some clarity on what your transferable skills
are and what you can do to kind of start developing some more professional development opportunities.
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So sometimes if you're in between jobs or what I like to call a career sabbatical.
It's an opportunity for you to volunteer, get out there and start connecting
with people in your network,
really looking at what you can do to keep yourself active and keep yourself
engaged and really start to hear and learn more about the things around you
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that are relevant to either your career or industry or potentially looking at a whole new career.
And we'll talk more about the new career here shortly. early.
So really important to start to look at that from assessing your skills and strengths.
The next thing you want to consider is what does your support system look like?
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Now, I mentioned before, if you're in the process of still grieving your loss,
it's important to talk to somebody, but you want to have a support system as
you start to look at what your new opportunities are. are.
There's so much value behind a support system of friends, families,
mentors, peers, people that you can really connect with for networking opportunities,
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for job advice, even for emotional support.
These are folks that are going to really embrace you and going to give you their
time to really help you develop and change into this new space that you're trying
to get into, but also help you get over what you just experienced because it's
not always easy for everyone.
And then we want to jump into exploring new opportunities. So this is shifting
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the focus from the loss of the job to exploring new career paths and industries.
And really important to discuss how do you embrace these changes and being open
to unexpected opportunities.
This is a shift in not just your own ideations,
but how are you going to shift your mindset to becoming more resilient to activating
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a new cultural idea of what could be coming to you or what you could be searching for?
Sometimes when you start to open up the doors to your network and the door to
new opportunities, you can start to cultivate new experiences that you may have
never found before. So that could be a new career your opportunity.
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Sometimes it's connecting with people who you may have been connected with before
that you know are part of your community or people that you can embrace that
have been your support system and being able to connect with them to help you
guide and navigate and be your mentors.
So as you continue to define your next steps,
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whether you're on the path of one, thinking of of going back to the same industry
and field, but exploring new jobs, or two,
being open to the idea of embracing unexpected opportunities and opportunities
that can oftentimes generate new opportunities from the perspective of a different field.
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And that's where you have to hone in on thinking about what your transferable skills are.
So when we think of this, I think it's It's also important to understand that
in these times that we really want to overcome some adversity that we're experiencing
and thriving in our career,
having that support system and people we can talk to is really, really important.
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And for everyone, that might look different.
So there's a couple of things that I want to kind of lay out as an action plan
for you in these next steps.
So the first step to taking action is encouraging you to listen to what is really
feeding into your soul and what is that looking like from a perspective of whether
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you want to stay in the same industry or you want to pivot to something different.
After you've kind of made that decision or you've kind of journaled about it
or wrote about it or took notes about it,
then thinking about how are you going to start transitioning from the mindset
of where you were before to the mindset of this is going to be a new experience
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for me. This is going to be positive.
Again, this is going from the place of what it is that you've experienced already
and trying to stay motivated and ambitious about the next steps of your journey.
When we talk about this action plan, and I'm using air quotations for those
who can't see me, this is the job search journey.
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So really looking, updating your resume, optimizing your LinkedIn profile,
and then networking effectively.
I already mentioned reaching out to the people who have already been part of
your emotional support journey, but who are the people that you know in your network,
whether those are people that you've have always been able to connect with to
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provide you with access to job opportunities, or they may know who's hiring,
or it's you actually going out there and really being able to reach out to people
and doing strategic search in LinkedIn or strategic search online.
I think the most important thing as you start to embark on this journey is to
stay persistent and stay positive.
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It's really important important to know that the job search journey can be a
marathon, but it's definitely not a sprint.
And the idea is that you want to stay persistent, maintain a positive attitude,
but also celebrate those small victories and wins along the way.
When you start to get into this phase of what this looks like for you and this
new journey for your job search,
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remember you have that group of people that is part of your emotional support
and your job search network, but also people you can clean on.
Refining your resume. If you need professional support, reach out to people
that you know can provide you that.
I'm raising my hand because that's one of the things that I do in my coaching
practice is I help people activate their resumes.
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And what I mean by activate is looking at all those things that they've done
throughout their career or their former jobs to really embellish it to make
sure that it looks clean and stands out for their future opportunities. needs.
I take the job search ideas that they're looking at based on the criteria that
they're trying to build.
From their new job search and start to identify what are some of the key words,
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what are some of the skills that are required to really map it out and really
make it more clear so it stands out when they start to apply to the jobs,
whether they're using their network or they're using an actual applicant tracking system.
And if you're looking for help and support when it comes to that mindset shift
and really activating your emotional intelligence so that you can get past the
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bitterness or the anger or whatever type of feelings you have.
I help people and coach people through that path as well.
So beyond just your network of people or beyond your support system,
I'm a coach that does this stuff.
So the reason why I wanted to share this episode was not just to promote my
coaching practice as a service,
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but also to really give you some guidance on how how to step in and really overcome
some of this and really step in and overcoming what the next steps would be
as you're working towards being able to get back onto your job search journey.
And it really is a journey, let's be honest here. Job searching is hard.
It's almost harder to find the job when you are working, but also it could be
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challenging when you feel like you're hitting a brick wall.
Don't feel defeated. Again, celebrate those small victories.
Even if you hear back from a recruiter, great.
Keep track of the applications you're submitting and be open to networking with people.
I have a whole list of different tracking tools that you can utilize when you
work with me as a client to really help you activate your network,
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connect with new people, and keep track of all your jobs while going through
coaching and building your resume and building your life.
So having said all that, I hope this episode was really helpful.
Just to recap, we talked about the emotional impact of job loss.
We talked about practicing self-compassion and assessing your strengths and skills.
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We talked about building a support system, exploring new opportunities,
developing a resilient mindset.
Mindset how do you take action and stay persistent to
positive opportunities that come your way and what
the job search journey could look like and then also some
tips and tricks so a lot of the information that
we just talked about today will be in the show notes i'll be sure to include
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my contact information for anyone who's in this space that really wants to work
with a coach and is willing to dedicate the time to have that accountability
for themselves to help them get get into their job search journey again,
and to help them getting back onto the career field.
And whether you're looking to pivot as well, that's one of my strengths is really
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understanding people who are pivoting from one career field to another.
And I'll also be sure to include the information relevant to Genshin Shiro's site.
I know that I mentioned that on the top of the episode today.
If you have any questions, I'm always here to answer them. Feel free to reach
shout out to me at hello at coachingwithjosemiguel.com.
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You can follow me wherever you follow social media, whether it's on TikTok or
Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter, Jose Miguel Longo.
And I look forward to the next episode. I hope you have an amazing day.
Stay safe, and I'll see you in the next one.
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