November 5, 2024 • 30 mins
Can a single vote shape the future of a nation? We explore this compelling question as we dive into the diverse perspectives surrounding the 2024 US presidential elections. Our episode features voices from opposite ends of the political spectrum, with one participant passionately backing Donald Trump for his economic policies and perceived divine appointment, while another advocates for Kamala Harris, emphasizing the need for leadership that sets a positive example and tackles economic issues head-on. These contrasting views offer vivid insights into the fervor and rationale behind voter choices.
We also navigate the complex terrain of reproductive rights and healthcare, where Kamala Harris and Donald Trump stand on opposing sides. A critical discussion unfolds around the candidates' positions on abortion access and compassionate healthcare, highlighting the nuanced impact of their stances on women's health and reproductive rights. We even touch on Trump's controversial claim of being the "father of IVF," probing the broader implications for women's autonomy and family planning. A unique perspective comes from a participant who questions the electoral process, adding depth to the conversation around political engagement.
The conversation wouldn't be complete without emphasizing the power of the vote in the upcoming election. We stress the importance of informed decision-making, urging listeners to look beyond partisan lines and consider the broader implications of their electoral choices. Whether grappling with support for Trump's economic policies or Harris's progressive initiatives, the episode underscores the necessity of civic engagement and the transformative potential lying in each ballot cast. Join us as we unravel the complexities of the 2024 election, encouraging every listener to make their voice count.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so good morning.
What are your thoughts aboutthe 2024 US presidential
elections?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, so I'm definitely voting.
I actually already voted inearly voting and I believe Trump
is going to win the election.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The Democratic Party is platformed in voting for
every single thing that Godhates Abortion, you know, the
mutilation of children,transgender rights, a myriad of
other things and Donald Trump isgoing to bring back the economy
.
He's going to fight hard forAmerican working people.
We're voting for him because hestands for life, he does not
stand for death, and absolutelyTrump is going to win.
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And absolutely we're praying,and I think so many other people
are praying as well, and evenTrump has people around him like
evangelical ministers, layinghands on him all the time,
praying and really, reallyasking God to appoint him.
And I think, when you look atthe assassination attempt and
you look at the fact that thatbullet missed his head by mere
inches, it's a testament to thefact that he is chosen for this
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hour.
He's a chosen, appointed leaderfor America, and so I was happy
to cast my vote for DonaldTrump in 2024.
Well, I think we need a change.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Since the last of the Biden he's good.
Change Since the last Bidenhe's good.
But I think, after Trump, Ithink we still have work to do.
I think I just think that weneed change and we need a
different change.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So when you say change, what exactly does that?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
mean.
So the economy is bad.
We have.
Prices of food is bad.
The prices of food Right, wehave.
Prices of food is bad.
Work is bad.
We have prices of food is bad.
The prices of food Right, wehave.
Prices of food is bad.
Work is bad.
The wages are not where itshould be.
I think you cannot live withthe wages that it is today.
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I think, kamala, I like herbecause of some things that she
proposed that she would do and Ithink she would do it, and I
understand that she can't do itif she just if she is the vice
president.
I understand she's not incontrol because she's not
president.
So I understand that shecouldn't do those things that a
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lot of people talk about.
They say that she's in officenow.
Why couldn't she do it then?
Because she's not the president.
She has her own work to do.
So I think you know she willbring that change that we're
looking for.
I think that we should, youknow, give her a chance and
let's see what she can do.
It's better than we alreadytried.
We already tried Trump, wealready tried him and we saw
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what he was about.
And, you know, I don't eventhink that he should be in
office with the way that hecarried himself.
You know, we talk about bulliesin school and the president if
he is the president, thepresident should lead by example
, and right now he's bullyingusing all kinds of words that
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are not appropriate, and we gotour kids watching this stuff.
So I think that if you wantchange, I think we're going to
have to go further than we.
We already tried Trump and wesee what he's about, and so if
we want change, I think this isthe change that we need.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Thank you very much for your comments.
Thank you, which rallies haveyou attended the most?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I've watched more of the Donald Trump rallies than I
have for Kamala Harris.
This has got to be the wildestone I've ever had to take part
in.
It's so divisive.
You know, that's the biggestthing to me is how divisive it
is and, oh my goodness, thedisrespect that goes on with the
rallies.
Divisive, that's the biggestthing to me.
How divisive it is.
And, oh my goodness, thedisrespect that goes on with the
rallies.
And that's mostly why I watchhim just to see how he derails
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and talks about a lot ofnonsense type stuff versus the
issues at hand that should bebeing discussed.
A lot of times Fox 5 covers therallies, so I was listening to
that one and the one prior tothat.
I think that was the one hementioned President Carter.
We all know he was going tosupport Kamala Harris and he was
waiting to see his 100thbirthday and Trump said, oh yeah
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, carter voted I think he votedfor me and I was just like, oh
my God, how disrespectful canyou be with, you know, our
longest living presidents, sostuff like that.
It just had me flabbergasted.
You know, I'm just like I can'tbelieve the stuff that comes
out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So you're excited to see what November 5 shows.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I'm excited and also a little scared, you know,
because I can't believe how manypeople actually support Trump.
And you know I see more and Iknow that she got in the race
kind of late, so, and I thinkthat has a lot to do with not
seeing the promotions or the adsor a lot of the campaign stuff
other than on social media, andI ride through and I see the big
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banners, the flags, the youknow all the yard signs.
I've seen probably 90 percentmore of Trump than I have for
Kamala.
So that's, that's kind ofthat's a little scary to me, you
know, right, yeah, well, I wentalready.
I went to vote.
Make sure.
I took my mama and I tell allthe people take somebody else
with you to make sure they goout and get their vote in,
because, you know, not votingfor somebody is always to me, is
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a vote for the other candidateor for the winner actually.
So that's how I look at it.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Wow, thank you, thank you very much, no problem.
So what do you think about the2024 US presidential elections?
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I have just been praying a lot and trying to ask
God like for leading and guiding, because I think they both have
good and bad qualities.
So that's what I've been doingjust trying to pray and figure
out like who's going to be thebest one for all around
everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Have you voted?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Yes, okay, I did so, all right.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
I voted.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
I did early voting last week, Last week, that's it
Just.
I would just say pray about whoyou're going to vote for.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And let.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
God lead you.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Just pray for God to lead you and who to vote for.
Thank you so much, thank you?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Alright.
You tell me that you never vote.
Why is it that you never vote?
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Because they're going to put Whoever they want to put
in office.
Anyway, how old are you?
I'm 51.
Have you ever?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
voted before.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
No, ma'am, you just don't believe in it.
God is going to take care ofeverything to me.
So every time they put somebodyin that we really want, they
put somebody else in it.
So that's why I don't vote.
Wow, well, thank you so muchfor your input.
You're welcome.
Speaker 9 (07:07):
Oh, I am excited to see what is going to happen.
I am hoping that we will get aleader who is going to support
education and support women'shealth, allowing us to let the
doctors make the decisions, andthe doctors and the patients.
Thank you.
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Have you attended any rallies?
No, I haven't attended anyrallies, but I have watched.
I watched the debate, I watchedCNN, I listened to CNN, so I'm
hopeful, yes.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Thank you very much.
Thank you, I'm hopeful, yes,thank you very much.
Thank you In 2024 America,letting a woman suffer or even
die after a miscarriage or anabortion is both cruel and
unthinkable.
Every woman facing the raw painand fear of these situations
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deserves a compassion, notjudgment.
This isn't about politics.
It's about basic human decencyand respect for life.
These are real lives and realstruggles.
No one should be left alone tobear that burden.
Compassion recognizes thecomplexity of each woman's
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experience and insists onproviding care, dignity and
support.
Judgment isolates and endangers, while compassion is what makes
us human.
We don't get to pick and choosewho deserves kindness and care.
Every woman deserves it,especially in her darkest
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moments.
So we'll talk some more aboutsome of the topics in which some
women still had some questionswith regards to the 2024
presidential election anddebates.
Welcome to this electionspecial.
Cocoapods podcast episode.
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What is an abortion?
In medical terms, an abortionrefers to the termination of a
pregnancy before the fetus cansurvive independently outside
the womb.
There are different types ofabortions, including number one
spontaneous abortion.
This is most commonly called amiscarriage.
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This is a natural loss ofpregnancy, typically before 20
weeks, due to various health,genetic or environmental reasons
.
Number two induced abortion.
The intentional medicalintervention to end a pregnancy,
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which can be done usingmedications or surgical
procedures, is called anabortion, quote unquote.
This is often furthercategorized into elective, that
is, it was chosen by the woman,by the individual, or
therapeutic.
It was done for medical reasonsto protect the health of the
mother or due to fetalabnormalities, there were
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problems with the developingbaby.
So, in layman's terms, abortionis broadly understood as ending
a pregnancy.
People generally think of amiscarriage for natural
pregnancy losses, while abortioncommonly implies an intentional
decision to end the pregnancy.
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However, in medical practice,both fall under the umbrella of
abortion, distinguished asspontaneous or induced.
So let's compare thedefinitions.
In medicine, the word abortionis a neutral term, covering both
spontaneous that is, ithappened by itself, that is, a
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miscarriage and inducedtermination, that is, a woman
actually went to terminate apregnancy.
This can sometimes createconfusion.
In everyday language, however,abortion typically means a
deliberate action, whilemiscarriage is used for
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unintentional losses.
This difference highlights theneed for clarity when discussing
pregnancy loss, to avoidmisunderstandings and provide
sensitive, accuratecommunication based on context.
In 2024 America, we believe that, regardless of the reasons
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behind a woman's decision tohave an abortion, her safety and
life should be paramount.
Complications like we talkedabout in our previous podcast
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before this that they don't facelife threatening complications
due to barriers in accessingnecessary medical care.
No woman should die or sufferneedlessly because she can't get
the care she needs or becauseproviders are hindered by fear
or restrictions in offeringtimely, appropriate treatment.
Women deserve compassionate,competent health care that
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prioritizes their well-being andrespects their humanity.
So in the 2024 US presidentialelection, the two major
candidates have distinctpositions on abortion access and
related health care policy.
For Kamala Harris abortionaccess she advocates for
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restoring federal protectionsfor abortion rights, aiming to
codify the standards establishedunder rule versus weight.
We talked about this in thepodcast just before this.
This would ensure nationwideaccess to abortion services,
reducing disparities acrossstates.
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And then, with healthcareprovider support, she emphasizes
safeguarding healthcareproviders from legal
repercussions when offeringabortion services, aiming to
alleviate fears that might deterthem from providing necessary
care.
Now, with Donald Trump, hisabortion policy Trump supports
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allowing individual states todetermine their abortion laws,
leading to varying levels ofaccess across the country.
He has expressed opposition toa federal abortion ban,
indicating a preference forstate-level decision-making and
for healthcare providerimplications.
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Under a state-determinedframework, healthcare providers
in states with restrictiveabortion laws may face legal
challenges, including jail timeor uncertainties, when offering
abortion-related services.
Policy positions suggest thatHarris's approach aims to
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establish consistent abortionaccess and protect health care
providers nationwide, whileTrump's stance could result in
varied access and potentiallegal complexities for providers
depending on state laws.
And on the issue of IVF invitro fertilization, some of our
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listeners ask did Donald Trumpsay he's the father of IVF?
Yes, during a Fox News townhall in Georgia on October 15,
2024, former President DonaldTrump referred to himself as the
father of IVF.
While discussing in vitrofertilization, he emphasized his
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support for IVF, stating we arereally the party for IVF.
Kamala Harris has consistentlyadvocated for reproductive
health access, includingsupporting policies that ensure
women can make informed choicesabout family planning and
fertility treatments, like invitro fertilization.
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Her approach to health careemphasizes expanding access to
reproductive technologies,supporting women's autonomy,
their right to choose andensuring that insurance coverage
is inclusive of IVF and otherfertility services.
Harris has voiced support forfamily building options that
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empower women and families,recognizing the importance of in
vitro fertilization for thosewho face challenges in
conceiving naturally.
By focusing on comprehensivereproductive health care,
harris's policies aim to makeIVF more accessible and
affordable, particularly forthose who might otherwise face
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financial or systemic barriersto these services.
Her dedication to protectingreproductive rights aligns with
the needs of families who dependon IVF to build their families,
highlighting a compassionateand inclusive stance on
reproductive health in America.
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So we talk about who is the realfather of in vitro
fertilization.
Who is the father of IVF?
Real father of in vitrofertilization?
Who is the father of IVF?
Well, the father of IVF isgenerally considered to be Dr
Robert Edwards, a Britishphysiologist who, along with Dr
Patrick Steptoe, pioneered invitro fertilization techniques.
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Their groundbreaking work ledto the birth of the first
quote-unquote test tube baby,louise Brown, in 1978.
Dr Edwards was awarded theNobel Prize in Physiology and
Medicine in 2010 for hiscontributions to the development
of in vitro fertilization,which has since helped millions
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of couples worldwide overcomeinfertility and start their own
families.
Now, what did Kamala Harris sayabout allowing Certain genders
to compete in sports?
Kamala Harris supports policiesthat emphasize equality and
inclusivity, including therights of transgender
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individuals In sports.
This perspective includesadvocating for fair
participation policies thatrespect both inclusivity and
competitive fairness andcompetitive fairness.
Harris's approach is groundedin the belief that all people,
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regardless of gender identity,deserve dignity and opportunity,
particularly in educational andathletic environments.
These policies Harris supportsaim to protect transgender
individuals from discrimination,while ongoing discussions
within sports organizationscontinue to address competitive
fairness and the development ofspecific guidelines that respect
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the integrity of women's sports.
Harris's stance reflects acommitment to civil rights and
anti-discrimination, balancingthese principles with the
nuanced needs of athleticcompetition.
Former President Donald Trumphas consistently opposed the
inclusion of transgender womenin women's sports.
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He argues that allowingindividuals assigned male at
birth to compete in femalesports categories undermines
fairness and safety forcisgender female athletes.
During a Fox News town hall inOctober 2024, trump stated his
intention to quote-unquote justban transgender athletes from
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participating in women's sportsthrough executive action if
re-elected.
He has also expressed concernsabout potential physical
advantages and safety risks,citing incidents where
transgender athletes havecompeted against cisgender women
.
Trump's stance reflects abroader Republican focus on
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restricting transgenderparticipation in sports,
emphasizing the protection ofwomen's athletic opportunities.
So determining which stance isbetter on transgender
participation in sports largelydepends on one's perspectives,
values and priorities Inbalancing inclusivity with
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competitive fairness.
Both sides of the debate presentvalid points.
So the inclusive stance that isKamala Harris' approach.
This stance emphasizes equalrights and inclusivity for
transgender individuals.
Proponents argue that sportsprovide valuable opportunities
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for community personaldevelopment and mental health,
and that transgender athletesshould have the right to
participate in sports that alignwith their gender identity.
Advocates highlight thatinclusive policies promote
broader acceptance andprotection from discrimination
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for transgender individuals, whooften face high rates of mental
health challenges and socialisolation.
The protective stance DonaldTrump's approach.
This approach prioritizescompetitive fairness and the
safety of cisgender athletes,arguing that transgender women
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may have physiologicaladvantages that could impact the
integrity of women's sports.
Supporters believe thatexcluding transgender women from
women's sports is necessary tomaintain a level playing field,
particularly in sports wherephysical advantages could play a
significant role.
This view is often focused oncreating separate or modified
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categories for transgenderathletes to balance inclusion
with fairness.
So the choice of stance dependson whether one prioritizes
inclusion and non-discriminationaligned with broader civil
rights protection, orcompetitive equity and
protection of women's sportscategories.
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Some advocates propose thatsports organizations, with input
from medical and scientificexperts, develop nuanced
guidelines to address bothfairness and inclusivity, as
each sport and level ofcompetition may require
different considerations.
So let's listen to what somepeople in the community are
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saying about these 2024 USpresidential elections.
Thank you for listening toCocoaPods podcast.
Speaker 10 (22:13):
I think the 2024 election.
Everyone needs to get out thereand vote.
First of all, you don't wantnobody telling you what you can
and cannot do to your body.
That's your body.
Second of all, you don't wantyour social security to stop and
everybody needs to get outthere.
Everybody vote matter.
Don't say your vote doesn'tcount, because it does.
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So please get out there andvote.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And when you went to vote, you did tell people to
take somebody with them, right?
Speaker 10 (22:41):
Yes, and I text all my contact in my phone.
Last week told everybody to goout there and vote because your
vote does count.
Thank you very much You'rewelcome.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
What do you think about the 2024 elections?
Speaker 11 (22:59):
I think it's important that everyone goes out
to vote, because this is a veryimportant election.
It will determine a lot ofthings in the United States.
I'm voting for Kamala Harris.
That's not to, you know,convince anybody else to do so.
I just think that Donald Trumpis.
I think he's not good for us.
He attacks people.
If he attacked their policies,it would be different.
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But to attack people in general, I don't think that he's stable
enough to be the commander inchief in America.
And today, liz Cheney ninebarrels to kill her.
Come on, that's ridiculous.
So I really think people needto go out to vote to make sure
that you know their voice isheard and their opinion counts,
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because you know there was atime when we were not able to do
it, and I vote because myancestors fought for it.
Wow.
Thank you so much for yourinput.
You are very welcome.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So how is it going with this election preparation?
Speaker 12 (23:58):
I think that people need to do their research and
they need to study more and theyneed to vote for Kamala.
That's my opinion, because Idon't think he's going to be a
good fit for us as black people.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Are people coming out to vote?
Speaker 12 (24:11):
I hear a lot of people that are coming out to
vote, but I think we need moreto come out and vote, because I
hear a lot of people saying theydon't want to vote either way,
and I don't think that's good,because when you don't vote,
there's giving him more of a wayto win.
I feel and do you know whypeople don't want to vote?
I think they feel like there'sno hope.
I think they feel like neitherone of them would be a good for
the presidency.
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But I disagree.
I feel like she's a bettercandidate than he.
Is my personal opinion, but andI personally feel like people
in the halls if they hadsomebody else to choose as
Republican, they would not votefor him.
He would not be a choice.
I just think these are choicesthey have.
This is what we have to go with.
Thank you for your comment.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You're welcome.
Speaker 12 (24:53):
But what do your co-workers think?
I just think, because they areespecially my white co-workers
they feel like, because they'reRepublicans, that they have to
vote for him.
But when we talk about it, Itell them if they had another
choice, they would not vote forhim.
And most of them agree thatthey would not vote for him if
they had other choices.
But that's their choice andbecause they're Republicans,
that's who they're going to votefor.
Yeah, I think she deserves thewin.
Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Well, I think that the candidates are very
different and I don't want to beopinionated, but it should be a
clear choice of what's best forus as a people, as women, of
color, or of not just as thecountry as a whole.
It's like we've been there,done that, definitely with one
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candidate.
We saw the results somepositive, some not so much so
for the country.
We've seen that I'm not so muchso for the country.
We've seen that it's time totry new, better things, better
ideas, respectful of us as acountry, as a people as a whole
and as women.
And I think it's going to be agood election if everybody comes
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out and votes in the way inwhich we should.
It really shouldn't be aboutparties, necessarily, but what
the individuals are expressingas their ideas and what we are
as people and as a country andwhat we really believe in.
And if we stand on that andunite on that, I think we'll
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have a good result with betterresults in the future.
It's an interesting election.
It's exciting.
I'm ready to see the results.
Go vote, I voted, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Do you think your vote will make a difference?
Yes, ma'am, I do.
I'm hoping it does.
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Okay, have you voted ?
Not yet.
Probably go after.
I leave him here.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Are you excited to see what might come of it, or
you don't care?
Speaker 12 (26:50):
I'm not going to say I don't care, it's just
whatever.
Speaker 10 (26:54):
God has in store for us.
It's just for us.
Wow, Thank you.
Speaker 13 (26:58):
You're welcome.
What I think about the 2024election is unfortunate the most
critical and crucial one,because we have some very
unfortunate people that'srunning for this election, not
people, excuse me, a personthat's running for president,
that I don't think should berunning.
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But it's very important to knowthat for me myself.
I did absentee ballot.
With my absentee ballot, I didnot mail it in.
What I did, I walked it into myprecinct because I want to make
sure, for sure, for sure, thatthey did receive it.
So for people who may not knowthat, even if you have an
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absentee ballot, you don't haveto mail it in, you can walk it
into your precinct.
So just also want to throw outthere that if you have a child
that's 17 and a half, I believe,in the state of Georgia,
they're also able to vote.
It's just very important this2024 election.
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I'm voting for my girl, kamala.
I'm not telling you who to votefor, but that's my pick at this
point.
So it's just really wild outhere, crazy and very sickening.
So just everybody get out avote.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Speaker 14 (28:22):
I think it's turned into almost like a yelling match
between the two.
They each try to slam eachother instead of promoting their
policies more than they should.
A lot of people don't even knowwhich candidate has what policy
, because they're too busylistening to all the flack that
they're giving each otherinstead of focusing on what
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really needs to be done for thecountry.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
So are you looking forward to the results.
Speaker 14 (28:47):
That I am.
I do feel strongly about one ofthe candidates.
She conducts herself with alittle more decorum than I think
the other one does, and I doappreciate the slight decorum.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And have you voted?
Speaker 14 (29:01):
Yes, I went ahead and did early election.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
All right, thank you so much for your comment.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Thank you important that everybody votes.
I think that everyone needs toget out there and we shouldn't
assume you know that ourcandidate's safe, you know, and
that we should go ahead and,yeah, get out there and vote.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm voting for Trump.
I think he's the best choicefor our economy and our families
, and I know that that's what Ineed to put first more than
anything, because we're allstruggling with that now.
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I feel like it's a bigger dealthis year.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
To vote right like it's a bigger deal this year To
vote right yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I mean, I don't want to say that.
You know, some year it's notimportant to vote and you know I
think you always should, butyou know it feels a lot more
important this year.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Everybody should try, yeah, try to vote.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's not that hard.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
My thoughts are I don't know really much about the
candidates, so I only know whatI hear because I haven't been
reading a lot.
So I just don't know which wayto vote or go.
But I am going to vote, thankyou very much, thank you.
All right, so good morning.
What are your thoughts aboutthe 2024 US presidential
elections?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, so I'm definitely voting.
I actually already voted inearly voting and I believe Trump
is going to win the election.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The Democratic Party is platformed in voting for
every single thing that Godhates Abortion, you know, the
mutilation of children,transgender rights, a myriad of
other things and Donald Trump isgoing to bring back the economy
.
He's going to fight hard forAmerican working people.
We're voting for him because hestands for life, he does not
stand for death, and absolutelyTrump is going to win.
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And absolutely we're praying,and I think so many other people
are praying as well, and evenTrump has people around him like
evangelical ministers, layinghands on him all the time,
praying and really, reallyasking God to appoint him.
And I think, when you look atthe assassination attempt and
you look at the fact that thatbullet missed his head by mere
inches, it's a testament to thefact that he is chosen for this
(00:58):
hour.
He's a chosen, appointed leaderfor America, and so I was happy
to cast my vote for DonaldTrump in 2024.
Well, I think we need a change.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Since the last of the Biden he's good.
Change Since the last Bidenhe's good.
But I think, after Trump, Ithink we still have work to do.
I think I just think that weneed change and we need a
different change.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So when you say change, what exactly does that?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
mean.
So the economy is bad.
We have.
Prices of food is bad.
The prices of food Right, wehave.
Prices of food is bad.
Work is bad.
We have prices of food is bad.
The prices of food Right, wehave.
Prices of food is bad.
Work is bad.
The wages are not where itshould be.
I think you cannot live withthe wages that it is today.
(02:19):
I think, kamala, I like herbecause of some things that she
proposed that she would do and Ithink she would do it, and I
understand that she can't do itif she just if she is the vice
president.
I understand she's not incontrol because she's not
president.
So I understand that shecouldn't do those things that a
(02:41):
lot of people talk about.
They say that she's in officenow.
Why couldn't she do it then?
Because she's not the president.
She has her own work to do.
So I think you know she willbring that change that we're
looking for.
I think that we should, youknow, give her a chance and
let's see what she can do.
It's better than we alreadytried.
We already tried Trump, wealready tried him and we saw
(03:04):
what he was about.
And, you know, I don't eventhink that he should be in
office with the way that hecarried himself.
You know, we talk about bulliesin school and the president if
he is the president, thepresident should lead by example
, and right now he's bullyingusing all kinds of words that
(03:26):
are not appropriate, and we gotour kids watching this stuff.
So I think that if you wantchange, I think we're going to
have to go further than we.
We already tried Trump and wesee what he's about, and so if
we want change, I think this isthe change that we need.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Thank you very much for your comments.
Thank you, which rallies haveyou attended the most?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I've watched more of the Donald Trump rallies than I
have for Kamala Harris.
This has got to be the wildestone I've ever had to take part
in.
It's so divisive.
You know, that's the biggestthing to me is how divisive it
is and, oh my goodness, thedisrespect that goes on with the
rallies.
Divisive, that's the biggestthing to me.
How divisive it is.
And, oh my goodness, thedisrespect that goes on with the
rallies.
And that's mostly why I watchhim just to see how he derails
(04:15):
and talks about a lot ofnonsense type stuff versus the
issues at hand that should bebeing discussed.
A lot of times Fox 5 covers therallies, so I was listening to
that one and the one prior tothat.
I think that was the one hementioned President Carter.
We all know he was going tosupport Kamala Harris and he was
waiting to see his 100thbirthday and Trump said, oh yeah
(04:37):
, carter voted I think he votedfor me and I was just like, oh
my God, how disrespectful canyou be with, you know, our
longest living presidents, sostuff like that.
It just had me flabbergasted.
You know, I'm just like I can'tbelieve the stuff that comes
out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So you're excited to see what November 5 shows.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I'm excited and also a little scared, you know,
because I can't believe how manypeople actually support Trump.
And you know I see more and Iknow that she got in the race
kind of late, so, and I thinkthat has a lot to do with not
seeing the promotions or the adsor a lot of the campaign stuff
other than on social media, andI ride through and I see the big
(05:21):
banners, the flags, the youknow all the yard signs.
I've seen probably 90 percentmore of Trump than I have for
Kamala.
So that's, that's kind ofthat's a little scary to me, you
know, right, yeah, well, I wentalready.
I went to vote.
Make sure.
I took my mama and I tell allthe people take somebody else
with you to make sure they goout and get their vote in,
because, you know, not votingfor somebody is always to me, is
(05:44):
a vote for the other candidateor for the winner actually.
So that's how I look at it.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Wow, thank you, thank you very much, no problem.
So what do you think about the2024 US presidential elections?
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I have just been praying a lot and trying to ask
God like for leading and guiding, because I think they both have
good and bad qualities.
So that's what I've been doingjust trying to pray and figure
out like who's going to be thebest one for all around
everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Have you voted?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Yes, okay, I did so, all right.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
I voted.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
I did early voting last week, Last week, that's it
Just.
I would just say pray about whoyou're going to vote for.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And let.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
God lead you.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Just pray for God to lead you and who to vote for.
Thank you so much, thank you?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Alright.
You tell me that you never vote.
Why is it that you never vote?
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Because they're going to put Whoever they want to put
in office.
Anyway, how old are you?
I'm 51.
Have you ever?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
voted before.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
No, ma'am, you just don't believe in it.
God is going to take care ofeverything to me.
So every time they put somebodyin that we really want, they
put somebody else in it.
So that's why I don't vote.
Wow, well, thank you so muchfor your input.
You're welcome.
Speaker 9 (07:07):
Oh, I am excited to see what is going to happen.
I am hoping that we will get aleader who is going to support
education and support women'shealth, allowing us to let the
doctors make the decisions, andthe doctors and the patients.
Thank you.
(07:28):
Have you attended any rallies?
No, I haven't attended anyrallies, but I have watched.
I watched the debate, I watchedCNN, I listened to CNN, so I'm
hopeful, yes.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Thank you very much.
Thank you, I'm hopeful, yes,thank you very much.
Thank you In 2024 America,letting a woman suffer or even
die after a miscarriage or anabortion is both cruel and
unthinkable.
Every woman facing the raw painand fear of these situations
(08:03):
deserves a compassion, notjudgment.
This isn't about politics.
It's about basic human decencyand respect for life.
These are real lives and realstruggles.
No one should be left alone tobear that burden.
Compassion recognizes thecomplexity of each woman's
(08:26):
experience and insists onproviding care, dignity and
support.
Judgment isolates and endangers, while compassion is what makes
us human.
We don't get to pick and choosewho deserves kindness and care.
Every woman deserves it,especially in her darkest
(08:47):
moments.
So we'll talk some more aboutsome of the topics in which some
women still had some questionswith regards to the 2024
presidential election anddebates.
Welcome to this electionspecial.
Cocoapods podcast episode.
(09:07):
What is an abortion?
In medical terms, an abortionrefers to the termination of a
pregnancy before the fetus cansurvive independently outside
the womb.
There are different types ofabortions, including number one
spontaneous abortion.
This is most commonly called amiscarriage.
(09:29):
This is a natural loss ofpregnancy, typically before 20
weeks, due to various health,genetic or environmental reasons
.
Number two induced abortion.
The intentional medicalintervention to end a pregnancy,
(09:52):
which can be done usingmedications or surgical
procedures, is called anabortion, quote unquote.
This is often furthercategorized into elective, that
is, it was chosen by the woman,by the individual, or
therapeutic.
It was done for medical reasonsto protect the health of the
mother or due to fetalabnormalities, there were
(10:14):
problems with the developingbaby.
So, in layman's terms, abortionis broadly understood as ending
a pregnancy.
People generally think of amiscarriage for natural
pregnancy losses, while abortioncommonly implies an intentional
decision to end the pregnancy.
(10:35):
However, in medical practice,both fall under the umbrella of
abortion, distinguished asspontaneous or induced.
So let's compare thedefinitions.
In medicine, the word abortionis a neutral term, covering both
spontaneous that is, ithappened by itself, that is, a
(10:58):
miscarriage and inducedtermination, that is, a woman
actually went to terminate apregnancy.
This can sometimes createconfusion.
In everyday language, however,abortion typically means a
deliberate action, whilemiscarriage is used for
(11:19):
unintentional losses.
This difference highlights theneed for clarity when discussing
pregnancy loss, to avoidmisunderstandings and provide
sensitive, accuratecommunication based on context.
In 2024 America, we believe that, regardless of the reasons
(11:43):
behind a woman's decision tohave an abortion, her safety and
life should be paramount.
Complications like we talkedabout in our previous podcast
(12:09):
before this that they don't facelife threatening complications
due to barriers in accessingnecessary medical care.
No woman should die or sufferneedlessly because she can't get
the care she needs or becauseproviders are hindered by fear
or restrictions in offeringtimely, appropriate treatment.
Women deserve compassionate,competent health care that
(12:32):
prioritizes their well-being andrespects their humanity.
So in the 2024 US presidentialelection, the two major
candidates have distinctpositions on abortion access and
related health care policy.
For Kamala Harris abortionaccess she advocates for
(12:55):
restoring federal protectionsfor abortion rights, aiming to
codify the standards establishedunder rule versus weight.
We talked about this in thepodcast just before this.
This would ensure nationwideaccess to abortion services,
reducing disparities acrossstates.
(13:16):
And then, with healthcareprovider support, she emphasizes
safeguarding healthcareproviders from legal
repercussions when offeringabortion services, aiming to
alleviate fears that might deterthem from providing necessary
care.
Now, with Donald Trump, hisabortion policy Trump supports
(13:37):
allowing individual states todetermine their abortion laws,
leading to varying levels ofaccess across the country.
He has expressed opposition toa federal abortion ban,
indicating a preference forstate-level decision-making and
for healthcare providerimplications.
(13:58):
Under a state-determinedframework, healthcare providers
in states with restrictiveabortion laws may face legal
challenges, including jail timeor uncertainties, when offering
abortion-related services.
Policy positions suggest thatHarris's approach aims to
(14:18):
establish consistent abortionaccess and protect health care
providers nationwide, whileTrump's stance could result in
varied access and potentiallegal complexities for providers
depending on state laws.
And on the issue of IVF invitro fertilization, some of our
(14:40):
listeners ask did Donald Trumpsay he's the father of IVF?
Yes, during a Fox News townhall in Georgia on October 15,
2024, former President DonaldTrump referred to himself as the
father of IVF.
While discussing in vitrofertilization, he emphasized his
(15:04):
support for IVF, stating we arereally the party for IVF.
Kamala Harris has consistentlyadvocated for reproductive
health access, includingsupporting policies that ensure
women can make informed choicesabout family planning and
fertility treatments, like invitro fertilization.
(15:25):
Her approach to health careemphasizes expanding access to
reproductive technologies,supporting women's autonomy,
their right to choose andensuring that insurance coverage
is inclusive of IVF and otherfertility services.
Harris has voiced support forfamily building options that
(15:48):
empower women and families,recognizing the importance of in
vitro fertilization for thosewho face challenges in
conceiving naturally.
By focusing on comprehensivereproductive health care,
harris's policies aim to makeIVF more accessible and
affordable, particularly forthose who might otherwise face
(16:11):
financial or systemic barriersto these services.
Her dedication to protectingreproductive rights aligns with
the needs of families who dependon IVF to build their families,
highlighting a compassionateand inclusive stance on
reproductive health in America.
(16:31):
So we talk about who is the realfather of in vitro
fertilization.
Who is the father of IVF?
Real father of in vitrofertilization?
Who is the father of IVF?
Well, the father of IVF isgenerally considered to be Dr
Robert Edwards, a Britishphysiologist who, along with Dr
Patrick Steptoe, pioneered invitro fertilization techniques.
(16:54):
Their groundbreaking work ledto the birth of the first
quote-unquote test tube baby,louise Brown, in 1978.
Dr Edwards was awarded theNobel Prize in Physiology and
Medicine in 2010 for hiscontributions to the development
of in vitro fertilization,which has since helped millions
(17:15):
of couples worldwide overcomeinfertility and start their own
families.
Now, what did Kamala Harris sayabout allowing Certain genders
to compete in sports?
Kamala Harris supports policiesthat emphasize equality and
inclusivity, including therights of transgender
(17:38):
individuals In sports.
This perspective includesadvocating for fair
participation policies thatrespect both inclusivity and
competitive fairness andcompetitive fairness.
Harris's approach is groundedin the belief that all people,
(18:00):
regardless of gender identity,deserve dignity and opportunity,
particularly in educational andathletic environments.
These policies Harris supportsaim to protect transgender
individuals from discrimination,while ongoing discussions
within sports organizationscontinue to address competitive
fairness and the development ofspecific guidelines that respect
(18:22):
the integrity of women's sports.
Harris's stance reflects acommitment to civil rights and
anti-discrimination, balancingthese principles with the
nuanced needs of athleticcompetition.
Former President Donald Trumphas consistently opposed the
inclusion of transgender womenin women's sports.
(18:45):
He argues that allowingindividuals assigned male at
birth to compete in femalesports categories undermines
fairness and safety forcisgender female athletes.
During a Fox News town hall inOctober 2024, trump stated his
intention to quote-unquote justban transgender athletes from
(19:07):
participating in women's sportsthrough executive action if
re-elected.
He has also expressed concernsabout potential physical
advantages and safety risks,citing incidents where
transgender athletes havecompeted against cisgender women
.
Trump's stance reflects abroader Republican focus on
(19:29):
restricting transgenderparticipation in sports,
emphasizing the protection ofwomen's athletic opportunities.
So determining which stance isbetter on transgender
participation in sports largelydepends on one's perspectives,
values and priorities Inbalancing inclusivity with
(19:50):
competitive fairness.
Both sides of the debate presentvalid points.
So the inclusive stance that isKamala Harris' approach.
This stance emphasizes equalrights and inclusivity for
transgender individuals.
Proponents argue that sportsprovide valuable opportunities
(20:10):
for community personaldevelopment and mental health,
and that transgender athletesshould have the right to
participate in sports that alignwith their gender identity.
Advocates highlight thatinclusive policies promote
broader acceptance andprotection from discrimination
(20:32):
for transgender individuals, whooften face high rates of mental
health challenges and socialisolation.
The protective stance DonaldTrump's approach.
This approach prioritizescompetitive fairness and the
safety of cisgender athletes,arguing that transgender women
(20:54):
may have physiologicaladvantages that could impact the
integrity of women's sports.
Supporters believe thatexcluding transgender women from
women's sports is necessary tomaintain a level playing field,
particularly in sports wherephysical advantages could play a
significant role.
This view is often focused oncreating separate or modified
(21:19):
categories for transgenderathletes to balance inclusion
with fairness.
So the choice of stance dependson whether one prioritizes
inclusion and non-discriminationaligned with broader civil
rights protection, orcompetitive equity and
protection of women's sportscategories.
(21:40):
Some advocates propose thatsports organizations, with input
from medical and scientificexperts, develop nuanced
guidelines to address bothfairness and inclusivity, as
each sport and level ofcompetition may require
different considerations.
So let's listen to what somepeople in the community are
(22:04):
saying about these 2024 USpresidential elections.
Thank you for listening toCocoaPods podcast.
Speaker 10 (22:13):
I think the 2024 election.
Everyone needs to get out thereand vote.
First of all, you don't wantnobody telling you what you can
and cannot do to your body.
That's your body.
Second of all, you don't wantyour social security to stop and
everybody needs to get outthere.
Everybody vote matter.
Don't say your vote doesn'tcount, because it does.
(22:35):
So please get out there andvote.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And when you went to vote, you did tell people to
take somebody with them, right?
Speaker 10 (22:41):
Yes, and I text all my contact in my phone.
Last week told everybody to goout there and vote because your
vote does count.
Thank you very much You'rewelcome.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
What do you think about the 2024 elections?
Speaker 11 (22:59):
I think it's important that everyone goes out
to vote, because this is a veryimportant election.
It will determine a lot ofthings in the United States.
I'm voting for Kamala Harris.
That's not to, you know,convince anybody else to do so.
I just think that Donald Trumpis.
I think he's not good for us.
He attacks people.
If he attacked their policies,it would be different.
(23:22):
But to attack people in general, I don't think that he's stable
enough to be the commander inchief in America.
And today, liz Cheney ninebarrels to kill her.
Come on, that's ridiculous.
So I really think people needto go out to vote to make sure
that you know their voice isheard and their opinion counts,
(23:42):
because you know there was atime when we were not able to do
it, and I vote because myancestors fought for it.
Wow.
Thank you so much for yourinput.
You are very welcome.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So how is it going with this election preparation?
Speaker 12 (23:58):
I think that people need to do their research and
they need to study more and theyneed to vote for Kamala.
That's my opinion, because Idon't think he's going to be a
good fit for us as black people.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Are people coming out to vote?
Speaker 12 (24:11):
I hear a lot of people that are coming out to
vote, but I think we need moreto come out and vote, because I
hear a lot of people saying theydon't want to vote either way,
and I don't think that's good,because when you don't vote,
there's giving him more of a wayto win.
I feel and do you know whypeople don't want to vote?
I think they feel like there'sno hope.
I think they feel like neitherone of them would be a good for
the presidency.
(24:32):
But I disagree.
I feel like she's a bettercandidate than he.
Is my personal opinion, but andI personally feel like people
in the halls if they hadsomebody else to choose as
Republican, they would not votefor him.
He would not be a choice.
I just think these are choicesthey have.
This is what we have to go with.
Thank you for your comment.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You're welcome.
Speaker 12 (24:53):
But what do your co-workers think?
I just think, because they areespecially my white co-workers
they feel like, because they'reRepublicans, that they have to
vote for him.
But when we talk about it, Itell them if they had another
choice, they would not vote forhim.
And most of them agree thatthey would not vote for him if
they had other choices.
But that's their choice andbecause they're Republicans,
that's who they're going to votefor.
Yeah, I think she deserves thewin.
Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Well, I think that the candidates are very
different and I don't want to beopinionated, but it should be a
clear choice of what's best forus as a people, as women, of
color, or of not just as thecountry as a whole.
It's like we've been there,done that, definitely with one
(25:42):
candidate.
We saw the results somepositive, some not so much so
for the country.
We've seen that I'm not so muchso for the country.
We've seen that it's time totry new, better things, better
ideas, respectful of us as acountry, as a people as a whole
and as women.
And I think it's going to be agood election if everybody comes
(26:04):
out and votes in the way inwhich we should.
It really shouldn't be aboutparties, necessarily, but what
the individuals are expressingas their ideas and what we are
as people and as a country andwhat we really believe in.
And if we stand on that andunite on that, I think we'll
(26:24):
have a good result with betterresults in the future.
It's an interesting election.
It's exciting.
I'm ready to see the results.
Go vote, I voted, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Do you think your vote will make a difference?
Yes, ma'am, I do.
I'm hoping it does.
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Okay, have you voted ?
Not yet.
Probably go after.
I leave him here.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Are you excited to see what might come of it, or
you don't care?
Speaker 12 (26:50):
I'm not going to say I don't care, it's just
whatever.
Speaker 10 (26:54):
God has in store for us.
It's just for us.
Wow, Thank you.
Speaker 13 (26:58):
You're welcome.
What I think about the 2024election is unfortunate the most
critical and crucial one,because we have some very
unfortunate people that'srunning for this election, not
people, excuse me, a personthat's running for president,
that I don't think should berunning.
(27:19):
But it's very important to knowthat for me myself.
I did absentee ballot.
With my absentee ballot, I didnot mail it in.
What I did, I walked it into myprecinct because I want to make
sure, for sure, for sure, thatthey did receive it.
So for people who may not knowthat, even if you have an
(27:42):
absentee ballot, you don't haveto mail it in, you can walk it
into your precinct.
So just also want to throw outthere that if you have a child
that's 17 and a half, I believe,in the state of Georgia,
they're also able to vote.
It's just very important this2024 election.
(28:03):
I'm voting for my girl, kamala.
I'm not telling you who to votefor, but that's my pick at this
point.
So it's just really wild outhere, crazy and very sickening.
So just everybody get out avote.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Speaker 14 (28:22):
I think it's turned into almost like a yelling match
between the two.
They each try to slam eachother instead of promoting their
policies more than they should.
A lot of people don't even knowwhich candidate has what policy
, because they're too busylistening to all the flack that
they're giving each otherinstead of focusing on what
(28:43):
really needs to be done for thecountry.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
So are you looking forward to the results.
Speaker 14 (28:47):
That I am.
I do feel strongly about one ofthe candidates.
She conducts herself with alittle more decorum than I think
the other one does, and I doappreciate the slight decorum.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And have you voted?
Speaker 14 (29:01):
Yes, I went ahead and did early election.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
All right, thank you so much for your comment.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Thank you important that everybody votes.
I think that everyone needs toget out there and we shouldn't
assume you know that ourcandidate's safe, you know, and
that we should go ahead and,yeah, get out there and vote.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm voting for Trump.
I think he's the best choicefor our economy and our families
, and I know that that's what Ineed to put first more than
anything, because we're allstruggling with that now.
(29:26):
I feel like it's a bigger dealthis year.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
To vote right like it's a bigger deal this year To
vote right yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I mean, I don't want to say that.
You know, some year it's notimportant to vote and you know I
think you always should, butyou know it feels a lot more
important this year.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Everybody should try, yeah, try to vote.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's not that hard.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
My thoughts are I don't know really much about the
candidates, so I only know whatI hear because I haven't been
reading a lot.
So I just don't know which wayto vote or go.
But I am going to vote, thankyou very much, thank you.
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