April 25, 2024 • 17 mins
Unlock the secrets of naturopathic medicine with Dr. Jessica Patella, whose expertise in homeopathy and exercise physiology shines a light on alternative approaches to health and wellness. Embark on a journey from her formative years at Florida State University to a pivotal meeting with a homeopathic doctor that forever changed her career path. This episode peels back the layers of naturopathic educational rigor, paralleling traditional medical training while fostering a profound connection with natural healing practices. We delve into the world of 'like cures like,' a fundamental homeopathic principle, and discuss the crucial steps naturopathic doctors take to become licensed, ensuring that patients receive care from qualified professionals prepared to treat a variety of conditions with holistic precision.
Step into the healing gardens of naturopathy, where nutrition, botanical medicine, and homeopathy converge to craft a preventive lifestyle brimming with vitality. Dr. Patella shares how expectant mothers can find solace in homeopathic remedies for the myriad nuances of pregnancy, easing everything from nausea to labor pains with gentle, natural solutions. Then, stir your curiosity as we explore the ginger root's dual life as a kitchen staple and a potent botanical remedy. By simply steeping slices of this fiery root, discover how you can create a therapeutic elixir that calms your stomach and invigorates your senses. Join us on CocoaPods podcast for an enlightening session that promises to enrich your understanding of how naturopathic medicine seamlessly integrates into daily life, fostering health through the bounty of nature's apothecary.
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Dr Bola Sogade (00:18):
Hello and welcome to CocoaPods podcast.
My name is Dr Bola Sogade.
I'm the curator of this publiceducation podcast with a twist
to maternal health and all thethings that surround maternal
health.
So for this Alcoco podcastepisode, we're very fortunate to
have with us a naturopathicdoctor and that's how you say
(00:41):
that, right Naturopathic.
Dr Jessica Patella (00:43):
Correct.
Dr Bola Sogade (00:44):
Okay, naturopathic doctor, dr Jessica
Patella.
So, dr Patella, can youintroduce yourself and your
background in naturopathicmedicine to our audience out
there?
Dr Jessica Patella (00:58):
Absolutely.
I'm so happy to be here withyou today on this podcast and my
background is in naturopathicmedicine.
So my undergrad was fromFlorida State University in
exercise physiology and I waspre-med and then I ended up kind
of getting to this point andhaving to decide what path that
(01:20):
I was going to take.
And I spent a lot of time inLondon with a homeopathic doctor
, which is really what kind ofveered my path from the
traditional medical route, andhe was amazing and spent all
this time with me during hisworkday and he didn't know me at
all.
I had another mentor in my lifethat recommended that I meet
with him and he said if you likehomeopathy, you have to apply
(01:43):
for naturopathic medical schoolwhen you get back to the States.
And he said if you likehomeopathy, you have to apply
for naturopathic medical schoolwhen you get back to the States.
And so that's what I did andthere's four schools in the
United States and it justhappens that the one that I
ended up at is one of thestrongest programs in
homeopathic medicine.
But naturopathic medicine as faras like for people that aren't
(02:05):
familiar with it, our first fewyears.
It's a four-year medical program.
The first two years are verysimilar to what you would get in
a traditional medical schoolwith full cadaver lab and doing
all of your anatomy, physiology,biochemistry, and then sitting
for your first board exams andthen the second two years is
(02:26):
where it starts to differ.
So you have that traditionalpharmacology, so you understand
how the drugs work, but then youfocus on the natural and
holistic methods of treatingfirst and, depending what state
you're in, you can usepharmacology, so your
prescriptions that doctors willuse, but all of the education is
(02:47):
focused in trying to kind offind and treat the cause of the
illness and do that with methodsthat are as natural as possible
.
And then you sit for boardexams again after those last two
years, so total of four years.
So my education and backgroundis from Southwest College of
Naturopathic Medicine, which hasnow grown into Sonoran
(03:08):
University, and I really spentmost of my rotations in
homeopathic medicine andnutrition.
So that's what I focused onwhen I graduated.
Dr Bola Sogade (03:20):
Now do you guys have residencies and fellowships
, like in allopathic medicineNow?
Dr Jessica Patella (03:25):
do you guys have residencies and fellowships
, like in allopathic medicine?
We do have residencies andthat's where I feel like there
needs to be a little bit moregrowth there, just because
there's not as manyopportunities as there are
students that graduate.
But that is growing.
So there is that opportunity todo residency and then to do
more focused study, for, like alot of my colleagues that are
(03:48):
interested in and their practiceis oncology, they have a whole
separate thing that they do justfor that.
So it kind of depends what pathyou take or if you're focused
more as primary care medicine.
Dr Bola Sogade (04:00):
Well, thank you.
So you know.
Thank you for that introduction.
So what is homeopathy orhomeopathic remedies?
Dr Jessica Patella (04:08):
hundred years to Samuel Hahnemann, and
he was a medical doctor basedout of Europe and he did a lot
(04:28):
of writing, a lot of medicalwriting, and the treatments of
course a few hundred years agoare arsenic and mercury and
bloodletting, and so he's seenall these patients get sicker
and sicker from his treatmentsand so it really led him to try
to find a different method.
So basically he createdhomeopathic medicine, which is
(04:50):
where you take the medicine thatyou're going to use and you.
It's a process of dilution, soyou dilute it and then you
succuss it, which is a shaking,and then you continue to dilute
it and succuss it, and dilute itand succuss it, which is a
shaking, and then you continueto dilute it and succuss it, and
dilute it and succuss it, andso then you get this medicine
that is very powerful but it'snot harmful to the patient
(05:14):
because it's so diluted.
And homeo means we use ourwords to break down right.
So homeo means same.
So the idea with homeopathicmedicine is you want to find the
remedy that causes the samereaction in somebody that is
(05:34):
healthy and is very, verysensitive to homeopathic
medicine.
So we call those people proversand when they get the remedy
and they kind of list, all ofthe symptoms that they get.
Then that's what you want totry to match with the person
that is in a state of diseaseand the symptoms that they're
(05:56):
presenting.
So you want to try to matchthat remedy in as many
categories as possible to theirillness.
So you're treating like withlike, which is a huge, huge
paradigm shift from you knowusing the antibiotic or you know
the antiparasitic.
So you're doing the opposite.
It's it's very different.
Dr Bola Sogade (06:19):
Wow, Wow, Thank you, you know.
So if a lay woman isconsidering consulting with a
naturopathic doctor, she mightwant to know several key pieces
of information to make aninformed decision.
Some questions she may have arewhat is the naturopathic
(06:39):
doctor's educational backgroundand training and I know you
spoke to your trainingspecifically she might want to
know what conditions does thenaturopathic doctor typically
treat, and is the naturopathicdoctor licensed or registered in
the relevant jurisdiction?
Or and there's a second part tothis question which I'll ask
(07:02):
after you answer this oh good,because that's going to be a lot
to remember to answer all yourquestions.
Dr Jessica Patella (07:09):
So I think one of the most important things
is for that woman to check andfind out where the naturopathic
doctor has graduated from.
So because naturopathic doctorsare regulated by the state, it's
going to depend what state thatwoman is in.
So currently naturopathicdoctors are licensed in 26
states and so in a licensedstate, essentially they have
(07:34):
more protection because theyknow that person has gone to a
four-year medical program, haspassed their board exams and has
an actual license.
When it comes to some of thosestates that are unlicensed,
that's where you have to be evenmore careful and I would
recommend checking to make surethat that doctor graduated from
(07:54):
one of the accredited schools.
So there's only four accreditedschools in the nation.
The other route you can go isgoing to our national
organization, which is the AANP,the American Association of
Naturopathic Physicians, whichis naturopathicorg, and there's
a find a doctor there.
So some of the doctors areregistered on that as well.
(08:18):
So there's a kind of twodifferent routes to make sure,
again, if you're in a licensedstate, you would know that if
somebody has ND or NMD aftertheir name, that they did
graduate from an accreditedprogram.
Dr Bola Sogade (08:32):
And you know how does the naturopathic doctor
approach healthcare Like?
What modalities or therapiesdoes the naturopathic doctor
commonly use in management ofpeople, patients?
Dr Jessica Patella (08:46):
The great thing is we have so many things
in our toolbox, essentially, orour doctor's bag, so kind of the
baseline, and everynaturopathic doctor will be a
little bit different because youknow we all connect with things
right.
Like you obviously arepassionate about women's health
and you chose obstetrics andgynecology, so within
(09:06):
naturopathic medicine you'll seedoctors that kind of are drawn
to certain modalities.
Like I love homeopathicmedicine.
Not all naturopathic doctors do, but we're all trained in it.
So overall, the idea is kind ofthe basics of of creating like
a healthy lifestyle.
So we all have countless hoursin nutrition and so focusing on
(09:28):
what's coming into the body,right, I tell my students that I
teach all the time that youknow what you eat literally
becomes the cells of your body,and so that's why it's so
important to try to do the bestthat you can and what you're
taking in.
Obviously, when you're youngeryou have a little bit more
forgiveness and as we're gettingolder you know there's a little
bit less forgiveness there.
(09:49):
And then we're all trained inbotanical medicine, so using
different herbs and differentplants in a tincture form,
typically, or as teas orpowdered in capsules and things
like that.
And then there's homeopathicmedicine, which, again, those
are the little pellets, so Ibrought some.
I know that not everybody cansee us, there's mostly just
(10:12):
hearing, but so the homeopathicremedies are typically found in
these kind of little vials, andthen you rotate them and that's
the little tiny pellets that thehomeopathic remedy is on, and
then so our main focus typicallyis preventative care,
(10:32):
preventative wellness, and thensome people kind of just focus
on certain areas like women'shealth or chronic disease.
We tend to be the doctor forthe person that just is really
into health and wants to try toprevent as much as possible, or
for the people that have triedeverything else and nothing else
(10:52):
has worked, and so we tend tobe that last, either first
resort or last resort, justoverall, in the type of patients
that typically come tonaturopathic doctors.
Dr Bola Sogade (11:03):
Now you mentioned a tincture.
What is?
What is that?
Can you tell us a little bit?
Dr Jessica Patella (11:09):
Yes, so I yes, I want to clarify that
tinctures are different.
So this is like a botanicalmedicine, so it is going to be
extracted, typically with analcohol, and it has the dropper,
and then you'll just you wouldfill, like the dropper with that
tincture and either take it oror put it in a water to take
that way if it's a little biteasier.
(11:30):
So the tinctures are usuallymore for the botanical medicine
and then again the homeopathicmedicine is on little little
pellets for that medicine.
So they're two very differentthings.
So I just want to make surethat we clarify that, since I
know we're going to talk aboutsome remedies for women today on
the podcast, but thehomeopathic remedies are very
(11:51):
different than a botanicalremedy.
So, just making sure everythingall the remedies I'm going to
speak about today arehomeopathic remedies.
Dr Bola Sogade (11:59):
Okay, so the tinctures how are they different
?
What is the main difference?
Is it in the packaging pelletsand liquid, or what exactly?
Dr Jessica Patella (12:09):
Great question.
So the tincture is going to beyou're getting a lot of the
constituents of that plant.
So that would be.
You know, let's say you'retaking echignasia, right, and
they'll take the actualechignasia, the flower, the stem
of the plant, they'll put itwith a combination of alcohol
(12:31):
and water and it will sit inthat for a certain amount of
time and then you'll basicallystrain that out and that is a
botanical medicine Forhomeopathic medicine.
You are going to take that,essentially that breakdown of
that plant or that animal, andthen you're going to dilute that
(12:52):
, like one bit of that one to ahundred, and then you're going
to shake it in solution and thenyou're going to take one drop
of that solution and put it intothe next hundred and shake that
, and so you keep diluting it.
So most of the dilutions are tothe point where there's very
little of that actual originalthing left, and so it's more of
(13:18):
the.
If we go to physics withwavelengths, it's almost like
that is, has the physics of thatwavelength on that medicine,
but not very much of theoriginal form left.
Dr Bola Sogade (13:33):
And so the advantage of diluting is you can
predict If you give too much,if it's going to adversely
affect the person.
Is that why you dilute thingsout several times?
Dr Jessica Patella (13:45):
Yes, and some of them are hundreds and
hundreds of times diluted, andso that helps with the side
effects.
And what we have found inhomeopathic medicine is actually
sometimes the more diluted is,the stronger the healing power
is to that remedy, which is kindof counterintuitive, I know.
Dr Bola Sogade (14:06):
Wow, thank you for that.
Well, let's go to my field.
You know, pregnancy has commonpregnancy symptoms such as
nausea, fatigue and mood swings,and I'm looking at how
homeopathy could help.
Are there specific homeopathicremedies that are safe and
beneficial during pregnancy?
(14:28):
Are there homeopathic remediesthat may assist with maintaining
a healthy pregnancy andpreventing complications?
Dr Jessica Patella (14:39):
Yes, yeah, I have a great list to go over
with you today, from kind of thebeginning stages of pregnancy
and into labor.
For as far as finding theremedies, they're usually at
health food stores.
You can find them.
If there's a local health foodstore, they're usually a good
source to find the remedies.
And then I would say, just ifthey can find a homeopathic
(15:02):
doctor to kind of check in withas far as like potency or how
often to take the remedy, thatwould that obviously would be
helpful.
But most of these are over thecounter that the that the mother
could get at a health foodstore.
Dr Bola Sogade (15:19):
And you know how .
Can homeopathy support asmoother labor and delivery
process, and are there specificremedies that alleviate
discomfort during the variousstages of pregnancy?
Dr Jessica Patella (15:34):
Yes, yes.
So I wanted to start with someof the ones that are for kind of
usually typically that firsttrimester with a lot of nausea
that can come along withpregnancy.
So one of the first remediesduring that time period that may
help a mother is sepia, whichis S-E-P-I-A, and sepia can help
(15:57):
with the nausea that occurswith.
Pregnancy tends to be like moretypical of having the nausea
more at the beginning of the day.
Typically, if somebody needssepia they tend to be better
outside exercising in the sunand they're kind of drawn to
that.
It helps them to feel better.
(16:18):
So if that kind of describesthat, mother sepia would be a
good remedy to try in thoseearly stages when there can be
nausea that comes along withpregnancy.
Dr Bola Sogade (16:31):
In our upcoming episode.
Dr Jessica Patella (16:33):
Ginger would be more of the botanical
medicine, right?
Or just food as medicine, whereyou can actually take the
ginger because it can be calmingto the stomach and you could
just slice some fresh ginger andput it in hot water and just
make your own ginger tea.
So that would be more of like afood as medicine or even a
plant medicine that you coulduse.
Dr Bola Sogade (16:55):
Thank you for listening to CocoaPods podcast.
Hello and welcome to CocoaPods podcast.
My name is Dr Bola Sogade.
I'm the curator of this publiceducation podcast with a twist
to maternal health and all thethings that surround maternal
health.
So for this Alcoco podcastepisode, we're very fortunate to
have with us a naturopathicdoctor and that's how you say
(00:41):
that, right Naturopathic.
Dr Jessica Patella (00:43):
Correct.
Dr Bola Sogade (00:44):
Okay, naturopathic doctor, dr Jessica
Patella.
So, dr Patella, can youintroduce yourself and your
background in naturopathicmedicine to our audience out
there?
Dr Jessica Patella (00:58):
Absolutely.
I'm so happy to be here withyou today on this podcast and my
background is in naturopathicmedicine.
So my undergrad was fromFlorida State University in
exercise physiology and I waspre-med and then I ended up kind
of getting to this point andhaving to decide what path that
(01:20):
I was going to take.
And I spent a lot of time inLondon with a homeopathic doctor
, which is really what kind ofveered my path from the
traditional medical route, andhe was amazing and spent all
this time with me during hisworkday and he didn't know me at
all.
I had another mentor in my lifethat recommended that I meet
with him and he said if you likehomeopathy, you have to apply
(01:43):
for naturopathic medical schoolwhen you get back to the States.
And he said if you likehomeopathy, you have to apply
for naturopathic medical schoolwhen you get back to the States.
And so that's what I did andthere's four schools in the
United States and it justhappens that the one that I
ended up at is one of thestrongest programs in
homeopathic medicine.
But naturopathic medicine as faras like for people that aren't
(02:05):
familiar with it, our first fewyears.
It's a four-year medical program.
The first two years are verysimilar to what you would get in
a traditional medical schoolwith full cadaver lab and doing
all of your anatomy, physiology,biochemistry, and then sitting
for your first board exams andthen the second two years is
(02:26):
where it starts to differ.
So you have that traditionalpharmacology, so you understand
how the drugs work, but then youfocus on the natural and
holistic methods of treatingfirst and, depending what state
you're in, you can usepharmacology, so your
prescriptions that doctors willuse, but all of the education is
(02:47):
focused in trying to kind offind and treat the cause of the
illness and do that with methodsthat are as natural as possible
.
And then you sit for boardexams again after those last two
years, so total of four years.
So my education and backgroundis from Southwest College of
Naturopathic Medicine, which hasnow grown into Sonoran
(03:08):
University, and I really spentmost of my rotations in
homeopathic medicine andnutrition.
So that's what I focused onwhen I graduated.
Dr Bola Sogade (03:20):
Now do you guys have residencies and fellowships
, like in allopathic medicineNow?
Dr Jessica Patella (03:25):
do you guys have residencies and fellowships
, like in allopathic medicine?
We do have residencies andthat's where I feel like there
needs to be a little bit moregrowth there, just because
there's not as manyopportunities as there are
students that graduate.
But that is growing.
So there is that opportunity todo residency and then to do
more focused study, for, like alot of my colleagues that are
(03:48):
interested in and their practiceis oncology, they have a whole
separate thing that they do justfor that.
So it kind of depends what pathyou take or if you're focused
more as primary care medicine.
Dr Bola Sogade (04:00):
Well, thank you.
So you know.
Thank you for that introduction.
So what is homeopathy orhomeopathic remedies?
Dr Jessica Patella (04:08):
hundred years to Samuel Hahnemann, and
he was a medical doctor basedout of Europe and he did a lot
(04:28):
of writing, a lot of medicalwriting, and the treatments of
course a few hundred years agoare arsenic and mercury and
bloodletting, and so he's seenall these patients get sicker
and sicker from his treatmentsand so it really led him to try
to find a different method.
So basically he createdhomeopathic medicine, which is
(04:50):
where you take the medicine thatyou're going to use and you.
It's a process of dilution, soyou dilute it and then you
succuss it, which is a shaking,and then you continue to dilute
it and succuss it, and dilute itand succuss it, which is a
shaking, and then you continueto dilute it and succuss it, and
dilute it and succuss it, andso then you get this medicine
that is very powerful but it'snot harmful to the patient
(05:14):
because it's so diluted.
And homeo means we use ourwords to break down right.
So homeo means same.
So the idea with homeopathicmedicine is you want to find the
remedy that causes the samereaction in somebody that is
(05:34):
healthy and is very, verysensitive to homeopathic
medicine.
So we call those people proversand when they get the remedy
and they kind of list, all ofthe symptoms that they get.
Then that's what you want totry to match with the person
that is in a state of diseaseand the symptoms that they're
(05:56):
presenting.
So you want to try to matchthat remedy in as many
categories as possible to theirillness.
So you're treating like withlike, which is a huge, huge
paradigm shift from you knowusing the antibiotic or you know
the antiparasitic.
So you're doing the opposite.
It's it's very different.
Dr Bola Sogade (06:19):
Wow, Wow, Thank you, you know.
So if a lay woman isconsidering consulting with a
naturopathic doctor, she mightwant to know several key pieces
of information to make aninformed decision.
Some questions she may have arewhat is the naturopathic
(06:39):
doctor's educational backgroundand training and I know you
spoke to your trainingspecifically she might want to
know what conditions does thenaturopathic doctor typically
treat, and is the naturopathicdoctor licensed or registered in
the relevant jurisdiction?
Or and there's a second part tothis question which I'll ask
(07:02):
after you answer this oh good,because that's going to be a lot
to remember to answer all yourquestions.
Dr Jessica Patella (07:09):
So I think one of the most important things
is for that woman to check andfind out where the naturopathic
doctor has graduated from.
So because naturopathic doctorsare regulated by the state, it's
going to depend what state thatwoman is in.
So currently naturopathicdoctors are licensed in 26
states and so in a licensedstate, essentially they have
(07:34):
more protection because theyknow that person has gone to a
four-year medical program, haspassed their board exams and has
an actual license.
When it comes to some of thosestates that are unlicensed,
that's where you have to be evenmore careful and I would
recommend checking to make surethat that doctor graduated from
(07:54):
one of the accredited schools.
So there's only four accreditedschools in the nation.
The other route you can go isgoing to our national
organization, which is the AANP,the American Association of
Naturopathic Physicians, whichis naturopathicorg, and there's
a find a doctor there.
So some of the doctors areregistered on that as well.
(08:18):
So there's a kind of twodifferent routes to make sure,
again, if you're in a licensedstate, you would know that if
somebody has ND or NMD aftertheir name, that they did
graduate from an accreditedprogram.
Dr Bola Sogade (08:32):
And you know how does the naturopathic doctor
approach healthcare Like?
What modalities or therapiesdoes the naturopathic doctor
commonly use in management ofpeople, patients?
Dr Jessica Patella (08:46):
The great thing is we have so many things
in our toolbox, essentially, orour doctor's bag, so kind of the
baseline, and everynaturopathic doctor will be a
little bit different because youknow we all connect with things
right.
Like you obviously arepassionate about women's health
and you chose obstetrics andgynecology, so within
(09:06):
naturopathic medicine you'll seedoctors that kind of are drawn
to certain modalities.
Like I love homeopathicmedicine.
Not all naturopathic doctors do, but we're all trained in it.
So overall, the idea is kind ofthe basics of of creating like
a healthy lifestyle.
So we all have countless hoursin nutrition and so focusing on
(09:28):
what's coming into the body,right, I tell my students that I
teach all the time that youknow what you eat literally
becomes the cells of your body,and so that's why it's so
important to try to do the bestthat you can and what you're
taking in.
Obviously, when you're youngeryou have a little bit more
forgiveness and as we're gettingolder you know there's a little
bit less forgiveness there.
(09:49):
And then we're all trained inbotanical medicine, so using
different herbs and differentplants in a tincture form,
typically, or as teas orpowdered in capsules and things
like that.
And then there's homeopathicmedicine, which, again, those
are the little pellets, so Ibrought some.
I know that not everybody cansee us, there's mostly just
(10:12):
hearing, but so the homeopathicremedies are typically found in
these kind of little vials, andthen you rotate them and that's
the little tiny pellets that thehomeopathic remedy is on, and
then so our main focus typicallyis preventative care,
(10:32):
preventative wellness, and thensome people kind of just focus
on certain areas like women'shealth or chronic disease.
We tend to be the doctor forthe person that just is really
into health and wants to try toprevent as much as possible, or
for the people that have triedeverything else and nothing else
(10:52):
has worked, and so we tend tobe that last, either first
resort or last resort, justoverall, in the type of patients
that typically come tonaturopathic doctors.
Dr Bola Sogade (11:03):
Now you mentioned a tincture.
What is?
What is that?
Can you tell us a little bit?
Dr Jessica Patella (11:09):
Yes, so I yes, I want to clarify that
tinctures are different.
So this is like a botanicalmedicine, so it is going to be
extracted, typically with analcohol, and it has the dropper,
and then you'll just you wouldfill, like the dropper with that
tincture and either take it oror put it in a water to take
that way if it's a little biteasier.
(11:30):
So the tinctures are usuallymore for the botanical medicine
and then again the homeopathicmedicine is on little little
pellets for that medicine.
So they're two very differentthings.
So I just want to make surethat we clarify that, since I
know we're going to talk aboutsome remedies for women today on
the podcast, but thehomeopathic remedies are very
(11:51):
different than a botanicalremedy.
So, just making sure everythingall the remedies I'm going to
speak about today arehomeopathic remedies.
Dr Bola Sogade (11:59):
Okay, so the tinctures how are they different
?
What is the main difference?
Is it in the packaging pelletsand liquid, or what exactly?
Dr Jessica Patella (12:09):
Great question.
So the tincture is going to beyou're getting a lot of the
constituents of that plant.
So that would be.
You know, let's say you'retaking echignasia, right, and
they'll take the actualechignasia, the flower, the stem
of the plant, they'll put itwith a combination of alcohol
(12:31):
and water and it will sit inthat for a certain amount of
time and then you'll basicallystrain that out and that is a
botanical medicine Forhomeopathic medicine.
You are going to take that,essentially that breakdown of
that plant or that animal, andthen you're going to dilute that
(12:52):
, like one bit of that one to ahundred, and then you're going
to shake it in solution and thenyou're going to take one drop
of that solution and put it intothe next hundred and shake that
, and so you keep diluting it.
So most of the dilutions are tothe point where there's very
little of that actual originalthing left, and so it's more of
(13:18):
the.
If we go to physics withwavelengths, it's almost like
that is, has the physics of thatwavelength on that medicine,
but not very much of theoriginal form left.
Dr Bola Sogade (13:33):
And so the advantage of diluting is you can
predict If you give too much,if it's going to adversely
affect the person.
Is that why you dilute thingsout several times?
Dr Jessica Patella (13:45):
Yes, and some of them are hundreds and
hundreds of times diluted, andso that helps with the side
effects.
And what we have found inhomeopathic medicine is actually
sometimes the more diluted is,the stronger the healing power
is to that remedy, which is kindof counterintuitive, I know.
Dr Bola Sogade (14:06):
Wow, thank you for that.
Well, let's go to my field.
You know, pregnancy has commonpregnancy symptoms such as
nausea, fatigue and mood swings,and I'm looking at how
homeopathy could help.
Are there specific homeopathicremedies that are safe and
beneficial during pregnancy?
(14:28):
Are there homeopathic remediesthat may assist with maintaining
a healthy pregnancy andpreventing complications?
Dr Jessica Patella (14:39):
Yes, yeah, I have a great list to go over
with you today, from kind of thebeginning stages of pregnancy
and into labor.
For as far as finding theremedies, they're usually at
health food stores.
You can find them.
If there's a local health foodstore, they're usually a good
source to find the remedies.
And then I would say, just ifthey can find a homeopathic
(15:02):
doctor to kind of check in withas far as like potency or how
often to take the remedy, thatwould that obviously would be
helpful.
But most of these are over thecounter that the that the mother
could get at a health foodstore.
Dr Bola Sogade (15:19):
And you know how .
Can homeopathy support asmoother labor and delivery
process, and are there specificremedies that alleviate
discomfort during the variousstages of pregnancy?
Dr Jessica Patella (15:34):
Yes, yes.
So I wanted to start with someof the ones that are for kind of
usually typically that firsttrimester with a lot of nausea
that can come along withpregnancy.
So one of the first remediesduring that time period that may
help a mother is sepia, whichis S-E-P-I-A, and sepia can help
(15:57):
with the nausea that occurswith.
Pregnancy tends to be like moretypical of having the nausea
more at the beginning of the day.
Typically, if somebody needssepia they tend to be better
outside exercising in the sunand they're kind of drawn to
that.
It helps them to feel better.
(16:18):
So if that kind of describesthat, mother sepia would be a
good remedy to try in thoseearly stages when there can be
nausea that comes along withpregnancy.
Dr Bola Sogade (16:31):
In our upcoming episode.
Dr Jessica Patella (16:33):
Ginger would be more of the botanical
medicine, right?
Or just food as medicine, whereyou can actually take the
ginger because it can be calmingto the stomach and you could
just slice some fresh ginger andput it in hot water and just
make your own ginger tea.
So that would be more of like afood as medicine or even a
plant medicine that you coulduse.
Dr Bola Sogade (16:55):
Thank you for listening to CocoaPods podcast.
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