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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Welcome back to the Coffee andBible Time podcast.
This is Ellen, your host.
I'm here today with my wonderfuldaughter, ashley, and I want to
start by saying something thatyou may have not heard in a
while, and that is you're doingbetter than you think.
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If you're tuning in today,chances are you are a mom who
loves God deeply, but you'realso exhausted, stretched thin
and still feeling like your bestisn't enough.
You want to spend time in God'sword.
You want to pray withoutdistractions.
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You want to feel spirituallyfilled up, but between work,
laundry, carpool, tantrums,dishes and everything else, it
just feels impossible sometimes.
So if your Bible is collectingdust and you don't even have
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time to pee alone, let aloneupdate your prayer journal, this
episode is for you.
Today, we're going to talkabout what it really means to
walk with God in the middle ofmotherhood.
I'm joined by Ashley, mydaughter, co-creator of Coffee
and Bible Time, and she is themother to a wonderful
10-month-old baby boy.
So, hi, ash, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, I am today
doing good because my husband
gave me two extra hours of sleepthis morning, which was really
needed.
But I'm just really enjoyingLeo being 10 months old and he's
such a joy, I think.
When I have family around Ijust feel a lot more like I'm
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able to breathe.
But if you would have asked methat question on a different day
, maybe I would have been afrazzled mess.
I don't know, but today hasbeen a good day Good, good.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, definitely
there's ups and downs.
Well, let's talk about some ofthe lies that maybe you have
been tempted to believe overthese last 10 months of
motherhood, and the first one isI'm alone in this.
How have you felt that?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
in this.
How have you felt that yeah, Ithink that is a lie, that I can
tend to believe a lot and momscan believe a lot.
I mean, I can feel alone inthings that I'm going through
and wondering if other moms gothrough that too.
And I think when you stay inyour own little bubble, you can
start to get that thinking ofI'm the the only one going
through this?
Or I'm the only one who hasn'tgotten sleep and can barely
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survive through the night, orI'm the only one who is dealing
with, you know, a kid who'sgoing through tantrums right now
, or going through a fussy phaseman, that nine-month regression
was really hard.
Or I'm the only mom who, like,gets so much anxiety when I hear
my baby cry, which is so nottrue.
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All mothers are going throughhard things and maybe not all
mothers are going through thatexactly, but a lot are.
And I think once I put myselfin community with other moms and
we just talk about the realnessof what momming is like, it
really, really, really helps.
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And, of course, remindingyourself of the truth that in
Christ, we aren't alone.
Before this, we were eventalking about how sometimes it
can even feel lonely, like myhusband is working nights,
sometimes like he has ministryduring the nights, and I'll be
home with the baby and I feelalone, or my family lives far
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away and I'll feel lonely inthat and wishing that I had them
with me.
But yeah, there is so muchtruth in the fact that we know
that Christ is with us alwaysand just what I said community,
the body of Christ coming aroundand reminding us.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Okay, we're one for
over 20 years and it was always
mentor, who was older, who hadbeen through that or someone who
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had a friend who was just, wasalways able to be there and
encourage and say, no, you'renot alone.
Right Like this is somethingthat they have gotten through
and you can get through it too.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, my group of
moms at church is so amazing and
it's just so refreshing to have, like other moms who are honest
about their season of life andrealizing okay, I'm not alone in
my struggles and my hardshipsand I see the joys of motherhood
through these other women.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yes, absolutely.
What would you say to someonewho is succumbing to the lie
that they have to be like xyz inorder to be a good mom?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
man, I will say, um,
being a mom in the social media
age is hard, um, because thereare a lot of influencers that
are expert in motherhood stuff,like sleep training your baby,
or baby led weaning, or like howto handle tantrums, and the
list goes on and on.
There's so many experts ormothers out there who share
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their lives, and so you, ofcourse, are easily comparing
your life and your child totheir life or to what they're
suggesting.
And I've had to cut off socialmedia when it comes to mom
content, because the voice ofthat was becoming louder than my
own mom instinct voice withinme, and I do believe that God
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gives mothers an instinct toknow what's best for their baby,
to know what's best for theirchild, and I felt that social
media was getting in the way ofthat.
Now I will say there areincredible things that I have
learned from social media Funactivities you can do with your
child, or interesting hacks forlike teething and stuff.
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I don't think there's anythingwrong with that, but it's about
your heart and how you handle it.
And the lie of okay, I'm notbeing a good enough mom because
I can't train my baby like thisperson does, or you know, I
can't be a mom of six kids andfeed them sourdough bread every
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day and whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I don't know I.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Just there are some
moms out there that are crushing
it online from what it seemslike you know, and then you're
like, oh, oh, man, I'mstruggling.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well, I think part of
you personally was that you
would look up umpteen differentsources on the same topic.
And by the time you get done,looking at 10 different opinions
on the same topic, you don'tknow what to believe or do or
think.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It was so confusing,
yeah, and I don't know, like I
don't know the answer as a momand I just have to try to figure
it out.
In the moment, and sometimes,most of the time, having 5
million different opinions isnot helpful.
I think what's better is to tapinto that community God has
given you.
Tap into, you know for me myown mom, mom to say, hey, what
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do you think about this?
Like older woman, wiser advice.
And then also there were somany moments where it's like,
okay, lord, I'm at the end of myrope, I'm at the end of myself,
I don't know what to do.
I need your wisdom.
And of course, there's timeswhere my husband has known
better than me and I've had tohumble myself and take upon his
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opinion and do what he thinks isbest in the situation too.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So yeah, yeah,
absolutely.
The last lie here we're goingto talk about is if I were a
better person, I wouldn't feelangry or frustrated or lonely or
whatever emotion.
How is that a lie?
And what has God taught you isthe truth.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I do think sometimes
those certain emotions like
anger or frustration, sadness,loneliness, can conjure up that
feeling of you.
Know why am I feeling this?
If I were a better mom, Iwouldn't be feeling this.
Or if I were a better wife, Iwouldn't be feeling this or I
wouldn't be getting frustratedall the time or upset or angry.
And I actually have beenreading a book recently and it
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talked about your emotions areimportant and they're telling
you something.
So don't ignore that.
Don't ignore that feeling youhave inside.
Acknowledge it and ask yourselfokay, why am I feeling this way
?
Why am I feeling angry, why amI feeling frustrated?
Why am I feeling lonely?
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And what can I do about it?
How can I bring these emotionsto God, honestly?
How can I bring them to myhusband Honestly?
How can I, you know, not putthem in the dark, but put them
out in the light?
Just acknowledging youremotions and like writing them
down or telling someone thatalready brings you 90% of like
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okay, like I'm working throughthis, I'm going to be okay Cause
you've you've gotten it offyour chest.
But then from there, I feellike you can even come up with
like okay, how can I workthrough this?
Like, a lot of times, I'mactually feeling frustrated
because I'm tired, I don't haveenough energy, so I'm at the end
of my rope.
So from there, I can ask myhusband for help and say I'm I'm
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feeling really tired andfrustrated today.
Can you please help me in thisarea?
You know what I mean.
Yes or hey, I'm feeling reallylonely.
Can we go and visit my familythis weekend?
So there's steps you can do,but if you don't ever
acknowledge that emotion, thenyou can't find steps to help you
, just work through it Right.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You can't find steps
to help, you just work through
it Right, and God beat us withall of these different feelings
and emotions, and processingthrough them is a very important
thing to do that you're notjust burying it and then one day
having huge blow up.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Which does happen?
It can happen, yeah, but if youcan try to.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Man, I need to hear
from you, though.
You're a mom of three andyou've raised three kids.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, and I can say,
ashley, that I have grown and
grown and grown and grown andgrown, and it's not something
that comes to you as a veryyoung mom, something that comes
to you as a very young mom.
Once you experience these typesof things, god grows you.
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You learn from other people inyour groups and your own mom,
and I think that that's theencouraging thing is that God
doesn't just leave us stuck inthe pit.
He gives us other people andthrough prayer and ways of
knowing that you're not aloneand your feelings are acceptable
.
What does it look like toexperience God's presence in the
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middle of chaos?
I think people who arelistening to this and they may
not even be a mom I'm thinkingof this wonderful book
Practicing the Presence of Godby Brother Lawrence, a little
teeny, tiny book, but he talksabout as a monk doing the dishes
.
That was a time that he used toconnect to God.
So how about for when you're inthe middle of this mom chaos?
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What does God's presence looklike to you?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I mean, I tend to
forget God is around during the
day and I'm still trying tofigure that out, since becoming
a new mom, of how to incorporatelooking towards him throughout
the day.
One thing that other experiencedmom actually encouraged me to
do was because even reading myBible can be overwhelming
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sometimes.
But to find like one littlenugget of wisdom and truth, like
, let's say, one verse in thePsalms like your word is a light
to my path, and write it downon a sticky note and then put it
somewhere in your house thatyou're always going by.
And I want to start doing thatbecause, as of recently, it's
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been hard to figure out a newroutine with a new little one
when it comes to seeking Godthroughout the day.
But I really like the idea ofjust kind of chewing on one
verse throughout the day.
So keep me accountable.
You guys Message me onInstagram and ask me if I've
done that.
Yeah, because as a young momwith a young baby and I'm
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working and keeping the housetogether and doing all these
things, I just it's hard.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, you know you
can turn like things that could
be mundane into times of prayer,like if you're folding laundry
and you hold up a little tinypair of blue pants and okay, b
for blue, and then say, okay,I'm going to thank God something
that starts with a, b for yourson.
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I love that idea and just Idon't know.
Just try to use the situationsthat you're in to make it.
Your mind will be thinking alittle bit more and you can use
it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I will say this for
Lent I got rid of YouTube.
I didn't make it the whole timebut um, but I made it probably
a month with no, you know,youtube, except for, of course,
educational videos I allowedmyself to watch.
But I found myself thinking,okay, what do I do in this time
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that I'm not watching YouTube?
And then I was like I'm justgonna pray.
So it was really good cuttingout.
Cutting out YouTube for a shorttime was very helpful, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, I applaud you
for attempting that and, hey, a
month is a long time, all right.
So, ashley, how do you seeJesus in his lifetime here on
earth?
Some things that he did thatwere acts of servanthood, just
like a mother would have manyacts of servanthood that she
does a mother would have manyacts of servanthood that she
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does.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's a great
question.
I've never thought of that,where you know, thinking about
Jesus' life, how he really didserve.
It was like a mom, becausethat's a mom's job is serving
all day, especially when youhave really, really little ones.
You're serving them witheverything bringing them food,
breastfeeding.
You're serving them witheverything bringing them food,
breastfeeding, changing diapers,clothes, everything.
I definitely see the heart ofJesus in well.
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First of all, the way that hetreated children, the way that
he didn't dismiss them but hebrought them in and he didn't
look down on them for beingyoung, but still cherished them.
I see the heart of anincredible father there.
Of course, the servanthoodtasks that he did, like washing
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his disciples' feet and caringdeeply for his disciples and
bringing them under his wing andteaching them.
His disciples were likechildren, like teaching children
, like we all are, just immaturein ways and needing a teacher
and a guide and someone tomentor them, just like we all do
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.
Even the way he treated thewoman at the well with so much
grace and love and caring forher emotions and caring for her
needs and also pointing her totruth when she wasn't walking in
his way.
I think Jesus is an incredibleexample for all moms to follow.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
There are a number of
really good resources available
to reframe the mundane, and oneof those is from Every Moment
Holy, and you said you'refamiliar with that resource.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I have them.
There's like three I thinkprobably over three of those
books now but they havedifferent prayers for mundane
moments of your life, likechanging your baby's diaper.
There are some forbreastfeeding, so really, really
good.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, we'll put a
link to those in the show notes,
but you might want to checkthose out for sure, and I know
there's also great resources indifferent apps, like the Glorify
app, for example, has prayersthat you can use for every kind
of mom, whether you're a workingmom, stay at home mom, a young
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mom, so check up on those aswell.
Well, ashley, thank you so muchfor just sharing a little bit
of your heart, and what it'sbeen like for 10 months Sounds
like someone's calling for younow.
I love you.
I think you're doing an amazing, amazing job as a mother, and
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he's so blessed to have you byGod's grace, and I'm so blessed
to have him.
All right.
Well, let me just close out ourpodcast here today and pray for
any mothers that might belistening.
Lord, god, we just come to youtoday on behalf of all the
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mothers out there that arelistening.
We pray for anyone who's in thehard throes of young children
mothering, that you would givethem encouragement and
perseverance and strength.
We pray for the moms ofteenagers.
Those can be hard years as well, and you would just fill them
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with your wisdom and your HolySpirit and help them to be
gentle guides during that time.
And, lord, we just thank youagain too, even for all the moms
of grown children, and that youwould just help us to continue
to be mentors and to lovegrandchildren well.
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So, lord, we just put all ofthis into your hands In Jesus'
name.
Amen, amen.
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podcast today.
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conversation and if you've beenblessed by listening to the
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Bye.