Election Clash: Bullying, Boys in Girls’ Sports, Gender Care for Minors, & LGBTQ+ Advocacy S4 Ep18

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're going to be the loud ones.
We're willing to speak out.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm not politically correct.
If you want the truth, I'llgive it to you.
We're going to start havingthis wine.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Maybe we'll show some true colors.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome back everyone to Coffee with Gays.
We are back after a little bitof a hiatus.
It has been a little momentsince our last episode, which
was recorded in June for Pride.
It was our kind of coming outstories and our coming out
episodes.
You'll notice a little bit of achange.
We now have a new cast member,reed.
Welcome, reed hello everybodyadam has decided to move on and

(00:39):
he has other priorities in lifeand we loved having him on.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Rest in pieces.
Rest in peace.
We're not even friends anymore.
We got rid of him.
It's done.
Ryan is very excited.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
And I'm very excited because Reed actually was on
another episode and helpedtremendously with editing.
He's very talented in that anddoing like transcripting and
stuff.
So I'm personally excited Idon't have to do all the work
and Adam was very not helpful inthat because he doesn't know
how to work a computer or hisphone or really anything.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
All he knows how to take conference calls or family
A base time.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
That's about all.
He knows how to do.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
He's really good at that.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Can he do drywall, though I thought he could do
drywall as well.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I don't know, but he can't do chimneys and I'm going
to keep bringing that up.
He couldn't fix her chimney, no, he turned it down.
It's a small job, so I bringthat up every time.
I want to let that one go.
It's so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
He tried to hand my company a couple of jobs and we
even went out saw them.
It was like a four-storytownhouse over here in Highland
Park and it was a long story,but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I have no need for drywall.
So, yeah, we love adam.
He's still a part of our group,but we're very excited to have
you on read.
Why don't you introduceyourself to our fans and tell us
what you're bringing to?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
coffee with gays.
Is it an introduction as like agame, like one of those fast
questions?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
sure.
Yeah, well, first of all, telleveryone where you're from and
kind of like where and I don'tknow a little bit about your
perspective.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, really quick.
Okay, cool.
Born and raised in SouthFlorida, so I'm Floridian.
He shows like Ryan, two Floridaboys.
Okay, I'll be five years.
Can you believe that I've beenhere five years?
In December, I just realizedthat the other day.
So I've been here five years,so still fresh.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Why did you move to Texas?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Have you ever been to Florida?
Yeah, I love Florida though.
Okay, so, like Ryan, I loveFlorida as a state have you met
any people?

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'm getting defensive .
Of course you're gettingdefensive.
Yeah, it's natural.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
No, the people in Florida, they're just not.
They're not.
They're Floridians.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Or they're New Yorkers or they're.
You know, you're going to startpissing Ryan off and he's going
to want us to replace you.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm already about to go across the room.
You know what.
Thank you, Reed, for joining.
We're going to find a new guestfor the next episode.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Okay, so let's wrap it fire.
Are you a top or bottom?
I am a verse bottom.
Yeah, he's a raging brother,single or married or in a
relationship.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I am single Favorite music artist.
There's no how?
About genre Country, okay?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
That's a good answer.
Yeah, what else do you want?
What's like I don't know.
What do you want people to knowabout you?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I'm a project manager for a roofing and contracting
company.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
And you just started real estate.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I am now also a real estate agent yes, with Keller
Williams, northwest Dallas.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Actually, I know something about you that I think
makes you very different fromRyan and I.
You are kind of a little bitmore conservative when it comes
to dating and just how manypeople you would have been with
oh, are we referring back to thelast episode where we did the

(03:50):
numbers?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'm conservative, blaine.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I don't know what you're talking about after
listening to that episode Irealized you did not answer that
question.
Which question the numbers getlike we?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
know, we know blaine's, oh, and like 7 000.
Well, I did not say that 1500or something, or 1300 maybe I
think it's important to notelike no shame, and not like you
want 7 000, 7 000, we never saidthat don't ever.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, that's not what I said.
I don't exactly remember what Isaid, but but read as very low
it's still the same headcountthat it was Just head count.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
What does head count mean?
How many people is it with?
Because I hear things like body.
What is it Body count?
I think body count sounds.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I was dating somebody up until recently.
21?
No, it's up to you, I think itwas 21 or 22.
And you're how old now?
39 in August.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I was 21 or 22.
And you're how old now?
39 in August.
I think he's just such a niceboy.
I love it.
So nice, so innocent.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Maybe I mean, if you want to chalk it up to.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I can't juggle.
I love that you have that.
I feel like you know the number.
I just stopped at a certainpoint.
I used to make a list.
Yeah, me too, but I God, god, Ihope mom's not listening.
He's just a very yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
So he's a very nice down-to-earth boy from Florida,
so I love that Great perspective.
So welcome, reed, to the show.
Thank you, super excited tohave you.
I'm happy to be here.
So before I get into today'stopic, I want to discuss what is
kind of upcoming, because weactually pre-recorded with Adam
a couple episodes that I find tobe super powerful.

(05:24):
We were going to launch themright after our Pride episode,
but they they're very it'sactually a very poignant story
of a friend of ours, that, whocame out of the closet after 35
years.
He was kind of forced out ofthe closet.
It is a really crazy story.
I mean, this guy just was outed.
He had a wife, daughters.
This guy just was outed, he hada wife, daughters, and you know

(05:45):
he's 60 years old and it'sreally a story about his life
and how he felt prior to thiswhole thing happening in an
incident where he was outed bysomebody, and then really it's a
two-parter and the second partis like kind of how he felt, you
know, coming out and being gayafterwards.
So we had prerecorded it andthen a lot of things happened in

(06:06):
his life and we felt like itwasn't appropriate to launch it
okay.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So that's why because I've been waiting.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I honest to god I've been waiting for them yeah and I
won't go into detail why, buthe's a friend and so now I feel
like it's actually a very goodtime to launch it.
Now he's in a really, reallygreat phase, so now I feel it's
a really good time to launch it.
So that's the reason, you know,we didn't launch these episodes

(06:33):
.
So after this episode we'lllaunch those two episodes.
They do include Adam.
Those will air two weeks after.
We'll be punching episodesevery two weeks and then we'll
have, obviously we continue withthat.
We'll start with this episodeand then we will launch those
two episodes.
They're really an amazing story.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Matt's story is incredible and we're really
excited to kind of launch it andyou'll see a different setting
for that, because we're actuallyin a studio downtown Dallas for
that one.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm so excited about today's topic.
So it is election season andthis has caused just some really
crazy stuff in our country andreally around the world.
I mean, the whole world islooking at the United States
right now.
I was in Portugal for a monthand it was actually during the
Biden-Trump debate, and I'venever seen people from all over

(07:24):
Europe and Portugal haveopinions on the United States.
It was very eye-opening and youknow, we are kind of the
standard bearer of the world, soto speak.
So I thought this was a veryimportant topic, but I don't
want to talk about candidates,just to be clear.
I think also one thing I'venoticed during this election

(07:46):
season is really also kind ofhow things impact our community
and the way our community hasreally been brought in to the
conversation around thiselection and some of the things
I find very disturbing, not juston one party or the other, but
really both parties, and how ourcommunity is being used.

(08:07):
I think there's a lot ofinteresting topics and I think
our community in particularreally needs to just be aware of
legislation, that number whatwe need, and then we also should
be holding certain groups andpeople that are supposed to be
advocating as accountable foradvocating for us.
I think it's very important.
So I had a lunch the other dayand it's just like we started

(08:28):
talking about it and also justlike how we interact with each
other.
I think another thing that I'venoticed lately I don't know if
you guys agree, but I feel likethere's been this really just
culture around people bullyingeach other.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Just out of curiosity , can you give me an example?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Do you guys know the influencer, mama Tot.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
You briefly talked to us.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
He talked to us briefly about it like a week or
two ago.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
But he's the influencer I started following a
while ago.
I think everybody knows alittle bit.
I've had a lot going on thelast two years.
I left.
My dad had 13 hip surgeries,five rounds of MRSA, my mom has
a brain tumor, like.
I've literally like had a tongoing on.
So I've had a lot of low points.

(09:17):
So Mama Todd I think like Ifound her kind of during this
whole time and she does thesesegments and and she's actually
very supportive of the LGBTQcommunity she has 12.9 million
followers now and she's reallybuilt up her following over time
and one of the segments thatshe does is this segment where

(09:39):
she does lunch with Mama Tot.
I've actually queued up one ofthese lunches with Mama Todd for
you guys to see and we'll playthat now.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yep, I've got some more noodles today, like I had
yesterday.
These have cheese and spinachin the inside of them.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's going to be okay honey.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's going to be okay .
We don't even have to sayanything.
I'll just know that you're hereand you'll know that I'm here.
You can just enjoy it outsidenow I mean come on.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Are you trying to make me cry?
What did we just watch?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
how precious is that woman?
Well, so the commenter said canyou please sit with me, mama
Tot, I'm having a really hardday.
That would be nice.
And so she does these littlelunches where she's like just
sitting and giving words ofencouragement to people and it's
so sweet and some people willcomment different things and
then she'll give them advice andjust have lunch.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Okay, now fast forward to the controversy.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
So a little bit more about her.
She also lost her sontragically in 2022.
He actually was doing a drugdeal at a gas station and he was
shot and killed and he was only19 years old and it was really
tragic.
She was obviously devastatedand she shared a lot of this

(11:29):
experience, some other thingsthat happened to her.
She also had a stalker that wasjust really torturing her too,
and you know she's just beenthrough a lot, but she's always
had these like super positivevideos and she's always
supported our community too.
So everybody like has reallyloved her and support Right.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Was her, was her son gay too, or no?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
No, I don't think her son was gay.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
What's her?
What's her deal?
What's her background?
What's her?
She just started posting.
She started posting after that.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, I mean her accounts like shoe lover and
then.
But she really just startedposting these videos.
Just she's got this southernaccent.
She just started posting thesenice videos and people started
just being like oh, you justhave a really nice demeanor.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
She's cute, she's sweet, she comes across with
great intentions and she's justvery motivational right so her
son's uh murder story?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
because he was murdered right he was he was
murdered.
He was murdered.
Yeah, it was on either.
See no evil.
I watch a lot of crime showswith my boss and one of the
shows I swear one of theepisodes had her son on it and
the killer was caught on camera.
They basically, you know,backtrack from the scene of the
crime or the homicide orwhatever, and they go through

(12:45):
and get all like the camerafootage, the CCTV footage, and
I'm almost positive that he wasone of the episodes.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I think, I think.
So I think her, her the son'skiller, was caught and but it
was like really, really tragic.
So everybody's like been sosupportive of her.
I mean this has been like agreat thing.
Like been so supportive of her.
I mean this has been like agreat thing.
So Hurricane Helene hits.
We start seeing a flood ofTikTok videos from people from

(13:12):
the area posting.
And then there's this narrativeyou know that FEMA is not doing
enough.
You know, on the left,obviously the Biden
administration they're kind ofquiet for a few days.
Then Trump obviously is overthere saying not enough is being
done.
There's obviously this rhetoricabout you know how much FEMA

(13:36):
has helped on the immigrationside and is there enough money?
We also have this rhetoric onthe side of like how much FEMA
did for Maui.
You know have this rhetoric onthe side of like how much FEMA
did for Maui.
You know people haven't reallyforgotten that too.
So I do think like we can'tdiscount people's experiences
with FEMA.
Right, and there clearly areplenty of videos right where

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people are saying that maybeFEMA isn't helping as much.
Right, like there are plenty ofvideos in the area saying that.
So Mama Tott goes on and sheposts this video.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
You ain't mad Because I'm mad as hell.
You know that mad that you justget so angry that you just cry
bad.
And you're so mad you just cryabout it.
That's how mad I am.
Like these lost everything,everything.
Imagine walking outside of yourhouse and seeing nothing that

(14:37):
you ever worked hard for Justgone.
I've seen houses justcompletely just slide down the
mountain.
I'm seeing people making videosbecause they can't find family
members.
How are they supposed to applysomething if they don't have
electricity that does not gettheir baby fed in this moment?
Like the job they had in thebuilding is gone, like hmm, so

(15:12):
that's what she said and the allthese people came out.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
She lost 400 000 followers.
Why oh exact 400 000 followers?
And people started attackingher comments said things like
your son deserved to die, andthey were like you're clearly an
alabama trump supporter andblah, blah, blah, blah blah.
And she ended up saying likeshe issued an apology and said

(15:42):
she really issued an apology.
She basically said you knowshe's not voting for trump or
whatever.
She's gonna vote for kamala,which can I just say something?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
in that video right there I saw I heard nothing of
her commenting about fema.
I mean, I understood her, heremotions and whatnot when she
was referring to, but I neveronce heard her bad mouth or say
anything other than like I feelfor these people.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, exactly.
So, yeah, all I got from that.
She's emotional because, yeah,people are impacted, their lives
, you know were.
They got everything destroyedand this, you know, storm
started destruction and impactedby that and she's very upset.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
There wasn't anything really specific as emotional
for people in affected areas andit's true Like this was a
really big disaster in theAppalachians that nobody
affected and if anybody's everbeen in this part of the country
, it is not a well-off area Likeand it's very remote, it's in

(16:51):
the mountains.
I mean, the fact these roadswere completely washed away is a
huge problem Anybody in thecities or anything.
If you've not driven throughthere, you you have no idea.
So I I understand she probablyhas a perspective too that other
people just don't get well, Iguess first impression, first
time seeing this video, it'sdevastating.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
She's feeling.
That is like she said.
She's not saying like something, that's nothing's being done,
no, but people we have we havethings to go, support like
that's, you know, in the countryto have support to go help
recovery and organizationsthere's so many as a, you know,

(17:33):
american red cross is going outthere in addition to what we
have through our government, youknow yeah, but these crazy
people were in her commentscalling her a MAGA Trump
supporter.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
They always knew it.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
She's from Alabama, of course she is so that's our
topic is addressing the, thecomments to that video alone.
Yeah, that video alone.
People are that that video iswhy everybody?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Well, those people need to shut the F up Right Like
no offense.
But anybody in the she'sposting these videos, she knows
that she's getting a following,she has a following.
She has to realize that notevery person that necessarily
follows her is in it for the.
You know the good of her videos, you know what I mean.
There are so many what do theycall them?

(18:19):
The people that arespecifically out there just
posting on people's TikToks andFacebook.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Who has this much time?
Who has this much time to sitat home and literally just go
after a comment?
All that kind of shit thereseem to be thousands, hundreds
of thousands.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I think again, this is where we have gotten so just,
I don't even know like I feel,like people have lost their way
I think that's hilarious thoughthese, these stupid people are
like.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
If anyone follows some idiot posting negative
bullshit on social media, that'son them, you know, like they're
gonna.
If they're going to be dumb,you better be tough, and they're
going to get the flack.
It's going to come back andbite them in the ass.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
We have to get at a point in this country,
eventually, where we realizesomething is this should never
be a one party country, becauseat that point you live in a
dictatorship, but right now it'stwo parties.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Not to chime in, but I am a registered independent.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Great.
I love that.
Yes, then independents arevoting hard right now too, which
is great, and so you guys, 30%in a lot of states right now in
the early vote, that's great.
And so I would say we'reprobably three parties.
Actually, they're notidentifying, and the reality of
the situation is we have toreach across the aisle and we're

(19:42):
going to get into this a littlebit with even our legislation
for the gay community, but wecan't sit here and say
Republican bad all the time,because you're going to need
Republicans eventually and justassume she's a Republican or she
voted for Donald Trump orwhatever over.
This one video is just so crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I really don't think that the person that said that
truly believes that it wasn'tone person.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
It was an onslaught of hate that was so bad she
literally had posted multiplevideos about it.
It was an onslaught of hatetowards her and she lost 400,000
followers over it.
It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's sad.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And this is not the only person, by the way.
I'm just using this as anexample because it's probably
the nicest person that I couldcall as an example.
There's actually another one,another creator.
He's a cop.
He actually did have a view onFEMA and all this other stuff.
He didn't lose any followers.
He just stuck to his guns onthis one and, ironically, lost

(20:41):
nobody.
She lost people, which was evenlike wilder to me, because she
didn't come out and say anythingand people were attacking her
harder than the other guy andthen they were tying her to the
other guy.
That was like no FEMA screwedup.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Do you think this was a guy thing?
Is this going to get intogender?
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Like there were literally women attacking her,
like horrifically, and I waslike what has our country come
to?
That's true.
And, by the way, these arepeople who are supporting Kamala
Harris, the Party of Joy and awoman president.
It's hurting.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yes, sir.
Did you guys watch the videothat I sent you?
That was Kamala Harris speakingand the Trump supporters that
were there, you know, talkingnonsense or whatnot, and her
response to them.
Did you guys not?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh, go to the other rally, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah Like oh, y'all are at the wrong rally.
Y'all need to go down thestreet Like here's.
And I have nothing againstKamala Harris, All right.
Her response, as someone thatwants to be the president of the
United States, could have beenhey guys, I know you're, you're
not the rally that you want tobe at, but give me a couple

(21:54):
minutes of your time and if youdon't like it, you're welcome to
leave.
But all people are welcome here.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's actually a good response, I agree, and I
think she would say that all wesaw was that one clip of her
quick response, which I think,if you add it all up, really
Trump has never Trump has.
Yeah, no, but I agree with that.
No, I agree with your approach,but there's nothing.
So we're only seeing thatlittle snippet.
There's nothing saying that shedoesn't actually act like that.
No, I agree with your approach,but there's nothing.
So we're only seeing thatlittle snippet.
There's nothing saying that shedoesn't actually act like that.
And out of all the things youknow, if you're well, if you're

(22:25):
going to call her out, whatabout all the things that Trump
says?
Oh, I'm not, I'm not condoninganything that Trump said.
I know there's a problem withwhat you said.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
in my opinion, it was an emotional reaction.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
And it also was the same thing she said when she
kicked the Christian out of herrally too, and I was like kick
the Christian out.
This young Christian kid yelledJesus is Lord in a rally and
then she said go to the smallerrally down the street.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, I don't like any of it, because then I feel like
oh, now it's like, this wholegame of like we're not even in
it for them as a person, it justbecomes so attacking the other
one.
Yes, I mean, it's sofrustrating that that's what we
are as a country.
That's where it's frustrating,and I think most of the country

(23:10):
is incredibly frustrated withthat.
And you're choosing betweenlike well, I don't like that one
, so I guess I'll go with thatone.
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I can't tell you how many people I've heard
lesser like, oh, I've just goneto lesser of two evils.
I'm like that's not a, that'sdangerous.
Look, I see that people thinkthat trump is the most divisive,
but I have seen a lot ofdivisiveness on the last.
I mean I'm sorry, it is likethis.
Mama topping is a great exampleand actually I just saw a clip

(23:39):
from Anderson Cooper.
By the way, kamala Harris hadliterally not a great CNN town
hall.
It wasn't great.
Actually, the Democraticcommentators David Axelrod and
Van Jones had a hard time sayingshe did anything, but maybe it
was a rough night.
It was anderson cooper, who Ilove.

(23:59):
I mean, I would date andersoncooper in rb.
Let's be honest, I love him.
He did, he was hard on herwhich he's a journalist like the
same thing as this mama totsituation.
Again, I think like we have tostop consulate thinking like
there's if there's any kind ofdiffering view like that it's
wrong and we have to stop.

(24:20):
I've just seen so many thiselection season and it's like if
there's like a person of colorthat's supporting Donald Trump,
it's like there's this massiveattack.
First of all, no one's going tobe one elder by that at all.
I mean I got my personal TikTokaccount banned.
You know why?
I mean I got my personal TikTokaccount banned.
You know why, during the DNC'srally, or you know, the DNC

(24:42):
convention, they had, like thosePalestinian protests out front
of the DNC, you know, and therewere all these pride flags.
And so I commented on a videoand this woman from Oregon
started attacking me because Isaid I don't think this is not a
pride rally, it's a Palestinianprotest, which I totally
respect.
People protesting this war.

(25:02):
But these people were likemasked up, they were filming it.
They were not gay.
I can tell you they were notgay.
What were they doing?
They were protesting the war,the Israel and Gaza war.
They had these Palestinianflags.
They've got these reallyintense cameras filming this
Palestinian protest over the DNC.

(25:24):
And then they have these pridetrans flags as well.
And I'm telling you they're notgay, they're co-opting our
culture.
And it bugged me and I made acomment about it and this woman
started attacking me.
She said oh, you're from Texasand you're gay.
You're clearly a gay homophobefrom Texas.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I hate.
First of all, let me just beclear.
I don't hate anyone or anything, but I can't stand people that
are like oh well, you're inTexas, so it figures I'd be a
Trumper or whatever else Like gofuck yourself.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
And, by the way, this is a liberal, white, straight
woman from Oregon, from Portland, that I'm a gay, homophobe.
That runs a pot.
Like it's just like infuriatingto me.
Like, number one, you don'tknow anything about me.
Number two, like I'm completelyright, like a palestinian a

(26:20):
protest for the rights of thepeople of gaza is not the place
for pride flags.
Like this is not.
Unless you're a gay person,maybe protesting, I still don't
really agree with that like it'sjust not a pride march.
Like you're co-opting ourculture for a different cause.
That just flies up.
It's just, it's kind of grossto me.

(26:41):
Anyway, she reported all myvideos, got a bunch of started
reporting my comments, got me astrike on TikTok and in a day I
got my personal account banned.
So it just again.
It's just like a level of crazythat I just don't understand.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well, think about this type of person, right?
I, for example, I work 12 hourdays pretty much, you know.
I mean I have too much going onin my life than to sit and be
on tiktok bitching at somebodythat lives in texas, or you know
what is she.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
You said she reported all of your videos yeah, and I
didn't realize it until laterLike a video of my dog that was
sexually explicit, a video ofyour dog that was sexually
explicit.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
No, it was him doing the Lion King, and by the time I
figured it out it was alreadytoo late to appeal the whole of
the reports She'd reported.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Like every previous video I'd ever posted, Clearly,
this woman does not have a job.
She needs a hobby, she needssomething else.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I don't actually know that, but I just feel like just
all of this.
People feel like they can havetheir voice and say whatever
they want behind a screen, theirphone or their desktop,
whatever, and just say whateverthey want.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Do people not think to themselves?
Nothing against what you'resaying, ryan, but like here's
what I tell myself Even first ofall, ever since Alexa and

(28:24):
cameras and whatnot are insidepeople's houses I used of other
people, then you shouldn't sayit at all.
Think what you want to intoyourself.
But if you can't say somethingin private that you would say to
somebody else, you don't sayanything at all.
You keep your fucking mouthshut.
You know what I mean.
It's okay to have your opinionand your views on politics I
mean, especially during anelection year.
Sure, you don't shove it downsomeone else's throat.
You're open to other people'sperspectives.

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Like that's what you should be,that's what you should do.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
But we've become so close minded.
It's really sad to me that it'sjust nobody's open to
perspective anymore.
And the lunch I had the otherday, we were talking about it
and he's open to perspectiveanymore.
And the lunch I had the otherday we were talking about it.
And he's going to visit hisfamily in West Virginia and
they're all Trump supporters andstuff.
And we're talking about myfamily in Carthage, you know, in
East Texas and we talked aboutthis in our coming out thing.

(29:10):
And you have family, obviously,that are conservative and you
know I've seen an evolution inconservatives.
You know, over time, revolutionin conservatives.
You know, over time, where theyhave really come around and
accepting us.
My grandma finally accepted me.
Obviously, we didn't talk for 14years, right, I mean that was
kind of a big deal.
But I do think, like, when itcomes to legislation, you're

(29:35):
going to need people that are onthe conservative side to pass
legislation that's important forus.
The Democrats will never passlegislation for us all the time.
Right, the respect for marriageis a really big deal.
It's actually something.
If I were in charge of theRepublican Party, I'd be saying,
hey, we helped pass this.
Republican senators and Housemembers to help pass that in

(29:57):
2022.
It essentially codified partsof gay marriage, not the full
thing, I know.
Don't come attack me in thecomments, because that's what
people do.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, please do, Huh, what Nothing.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
But it did codify aspect that does protect gay
marriage.
They take an act of Congressand I did take Republican
senators and House members.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
so I mean people can argue with me all you want, it's
true.
Why don't we open up theconversation to our listeners?
If you guys have any questions,by all means feel free.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yes, and guess what?
The most important piece oflegislation I'm going to segue
to next should be on the docket.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
The one HRC is working on or not working on.
I know, I know.
I know.
That's why I said it.
This is a frustrating episode.
Why, why are you frustrated?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
His eyes are shut right now.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
They're not shut right now.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm thinking I'm legit and shut right now.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
It's not you, it's just like when I start thinking
about like the state we're in.
You know, in general, are youfrustrated?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
as frustrated as I am with the human rights campaign.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Is that why?
No, I'm not frustrated withthem Seeing you to talk about
things that they don'taccomplish.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
No, I'm not frustrated with them, you're not
.
You're happy with them.
No, I don't Tough crowd, Idon't Tough crowd.
So the reason I really wantedto talk about this I received a
text message from the humanrights campaign the other day
and because it's politicalseason and I just could not

(31:33):
believe this response, it justlike literally drove me crazy.
A texter pod you know how theydo the text banking during
political season.
I mean, let's be honest, thehuman rights campaign should
just be like trying to pushlegislation for our community.
But they're almost like apolitical organization to get
people elected.
And then it's like they getpeople elected but I feel like

(31:56):
they don't really pushlegislation, they push narrative
and it's kind of crazy to me.
It's been my, it's just been myexperience.
I just think we should look, weshould request change.
Number one if you walk throughWashington DC and you look
through the embassies and theconsulates, the Human Rights
Campaign building is probablyone of the nicest buildings of

(32:17):
all the embassies in WashingtonDC because it is one of the most
well-funded organizations inall of DC.
It's beautiful, they get a lotof money, so they have a lot of
power and I don't see how theybuild it right.
But anyway, I get this message.
Hi, blaine, it's Kim, hi Kim.

(32:38):
With the HRC to Texas, we'reclose to reaching our phone bait
goal.
Can you help?
Have you voted yet?
And I said yet.
I said, what are the HRC'splans to get the Equality Act
passed?
She said that it's a part oftheir legislative agenda.
And she said but getting ColinAllred elected would really help

(33:03):
.
Oh, I basically Googled it andI said you know, I find it
really funny because ColinAllred only talks about abortion
in all of his commercials andall of his everything.
I've never heard him talk onceabout the Equality Act.
And I also said I googled theHRC and what they're talking

(33:28):
about and it was about like,basically, gender expansion for
children, and that's what cameup on the first page of Google
and it's that's the narrativethe HRC is pushing.
And for me, what's reallyirritating to me is, you know, I
don't know if you guys arefamiliar with what the?
Do you guys know what theEquality Act does or what it's

(33:50):
supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
No, I claim ignorance on that one.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
You know, ryan, is that the one for marriage, to
protect marriage.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
No, that was the Respect for Marriage Act.
It's already been passed.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, welcome to the conversation.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Ryan, it's still sitting in committee, so it's
employment bars, discriminationfor hiring, firing in the
workplace, housing, publicaccommodations, education.
Students are treated equally inschools, credit and lending for
gays and hell.
I don't care about this one.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
but sure he's service Is this, where Blaine gets
caught up in something thatsounds so Obviously.
We should go after that.
Why are we wasting our time onpronouns?
Yeah, exactly you know why?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Because, oh there he goes you walked right into the.
How did you let him walk youright into that?
Like, how is that even possible?
Because possible, because thisone impacts 13 million.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
No, I was referring to how ryan just walked you into
that.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
It's like we know each other.
Yeah, it impacts 13 millionamericans and they're talking
about okay, sarah, that he'ssaying they're not working on
that.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
I know they.
I mean it's still stuck incommittee and nobody talks about
.
Or is it just like timelinewise, like there there's
something that's more urgent inthe next month and that's like a
long-term goal?
Have you heard one politiciantalk about it?
I can't say that I'm verywell-versed in this, so I'm a
listener, I'm a learner and I'man advocate for.

(35:13):
Have you heard Kamala?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Harris talk about it once.
Have you heard Colin Allredtalk about it?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
once you didn't't talk about in this debate with
ted cruz and then have to golisten to them, aren't I?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
no, but ted cruz spoke about it about the
equality act yes, I believe so.
Well, not to colin allred'sadvantage, but yeah, I only, and
just like ryan I, I only gotlike a half of the ted cruz and
colin debate.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
So I would have to check, but I'm not a hundred
percent sure, but it just, itliterally frustrates me so much
that I just feel like like thesethings are not being pushed by
the HRC.
You know, you know, here inTexas, right, hb 25 was passed
to prevent trans kids fromcompeting in girls' sports.

(36:01):
So now Ted Cruz is writing ads,you know, saying, oh, on a
federal level, all in all,redwood would have trans kids in
girls' sports.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
So I think my perspective is I also feel that
there's a huge, massive amountof misinformation that the
public receives.
The public also doesn't go outof their way to necessarily do
their research and get thecorrect information.
You know, a lot of America willget their articles off of

(36:31):
Facebook or Instagram orwherever else they get their
information from, and those arevoters, and that is
disheartening and scary.
Even myself, who does an ounceof research on this, you know,
even I feel like an ignorantperson.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Have I been educating you today?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Well, you have.
Yes, of course, I think anyonethat has more information than I
do educates me.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
But that's the thing.
Everybody is sitting here likegoing on vibes and they're not
holding people accountable.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Correct.
I think that there should be astandardized test when you go to
vote.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
I think in order for your vote to care.
Want to be that many peoplevoting 93.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
That weeds out people that are, you know, ignorant
voters.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
You can't blindly follow a party and you also
can't blindly let theseorganizations like the HRC
promote narratives that don'thelp your.
And, by the way, this isn'tjust the gay community, all of
our communities haveorganizations supporting them.
Right, you should be holdingthese organizations accountable

(37:34):
to vote legislation that trulyhelps your community at large,
not just like minority, so ourminorities within the community,
like we should be saying.
Like the equality act helps 13million people, this legislation
for boys and girls sports typething or like whatever.

(37:55):
Do you know how many people?
I did the math, based on theHRC's math, of how many people
it's like 0.44%.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Poor Marshall.
Even Marshall's getting upsetover this.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Even Marshall's upset .
Yeah, poor guy 0.44% ofstudents this would affect, so
basically potentially 35,000students.
I mean that would bepotentially trans, and this is
what we have spent millions ofdollars in advertising talking
about, when we still haven'tpassed an act that affects 13

(38:33):
million Americans.
We've worked so hard to getmarriage equality in this
country and I think a lot of theright has come around,
obviously with the Respect forMarriage Act being passed,
coming around to it for votes orcoming around to it because
they're legitimately votes and Ithink the greater community.
I really do think the greateramount of conservative, by the

(38:55):
way, I don't think a lot ofpeople know this, and the
Republican Party did a terriblejob of saying it.
This is the first year, andfirst time in 40 years in the
Republican National Committeeplatform that there was no
anti-gay legislation in theirplatform.
That is called evolution of aparty's mindset and, by the way,
all the we're not part of theRepublican Party anymore.
You know what?

(39:15):
Those are all the people thathated gays anyway either way,
and I think they're kind ofterrible people.
They love war and all thatstuff.
I don't know what the deal isthere.
I actually think a partyevolving is something we should
celebrate.
Oh, absolutely.
Again, I don't think that theDemocratic Party is constantly
like attacking this other partybecause they want to get rid of

(39:36):
them and have a single party.
I don't think that's a healthyargument either.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I think you should be like.
You feel like the DemocraticParty is attacking the other one
and saying let's only have oneparty.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
You can't see a Republican bad all the time.
Democrats see it the only rightway.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
No, and neither can the other side, for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
But I don't think the Republicans are just like the
Democrats are just completelybad.
I mean, they do say bad thingsabout them but like Everyone's
saying too many bad things, true, I agree.
And I think everybody needs tocoexist and I'm just saying, at
the end of the day, they have towork together and buy
partisanship For real.
And I just think there havebeen evolutions on the
Republican side and we shouldjust accept that.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
This has been going on since 2016.
This is basically when itstarted, because I remember
being back in Orlando and all myfriends God, they were bullying
the fuck out of me because theywere trying to get me to tell
them who I voted for.

(40:36):
And I'll be flat out honest andsay listen, the voting booth is
not a group effort it's.
It's not something that I go inthere with all my friends and
all my buddies and and vote.
It's a private thing and I keepit to myself.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
They couldn't respect that yeah, if that's your
choice.
And if it's your choice andrespect that right.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
They couldn't respect that, so they took that as oh.
So we know who you voted for.
Get out.
I said okay because that's ifthat's ignorance yeah, it's
ignorance.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You can't handle that or you force someone to tell
you who you voted for.
It's just so stupid.
We have friends on both sidesof the aisle and family on both
sides of the aisle.
You should respect it.
That's what I'm saying.
If you cannot handle that andyou are forcing someone to vote
your way, then you are a fascistin my opinion.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Right, that's what forced me to become an
independent, because I got tiredof it.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
I mean, I love our group because we have I think we
have a variety of opinions.
We all hang out, we all talkabout it and we're not getting
rid of each other and we're not.
You know, I think our groupchat was great.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Everybody's talking about who's canceling out whose
vote.
I canceled you, I canceled you.
I canceled you, I canceled you.
Welcome to america, but I thinkthat's like the
lightheartedness.
And to that lady who got me aband on tiktok you know, that's
how our texans work, I guess.
Portland, where only a one setmindset works, I guess oh don,

(41:59):
oh don't, yeah, don't bashPortland.
I love Portland actually.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I just hear it's not great anymore.
I just hear it's rainy, andthat's the only thing that
scares me away.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I think my kind of closing thoughts on this is
obviously we have importantlegislation that we should be
focused on.
We shouldn't be focused onthings like, I think, little
topics anymore.
We should really be pushingthese organizations to support
us, and I think you know there'ssome other important
legislation that I just wantedto kind of call out on the

(42:29):
docket.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Because Blaine is now going to be in politics.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
I mean anyone can go into politics these days.
I think it's absolutelymiserable, but Thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Did you not hear what ryan just said?
Oh well, anyone could go intopolitics these days come on,
which is good.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
No, anyone should be able to go to, because that's
the country we're in I knew yourbad damn comment I still want
adam bailey to go into politicsand it's great.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I mean it's like off a tv show.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I'm just saying I feel like, right, like you well,
my experience, right Like yougrow up and it's like, oh, you
can't do this, you can't do thatbecause of this public image.
You can't go right Like if youdo that, you're not ever going
to be accepted in, like thepolitical, like you can't go
into politics, you can't be thepresident if you do this.
You can't go into politics, youcan't be the president if you

(43:20):
do this.
And I feel like now we're in aworld where you can have done
literally anything and you'regoing to get half the country
plus following you.
Sure, which it's.
Maybe that's a good thing, Idon't know, because maybe does
that make it real.
You know, we're just realpeople doing what we were doing
all along and we're not a facade.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I mean, I think.
I think one thing everyoneforgets is every, every
politician, or everyone that'sgoing into politics for the, for
that matter, they're not in itfor the greater good of.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Or maybe hopefully they started out like that, but
it's like this system thatcreates.
Yeah, yeah when you start toget into where maybe they
started out for this greatergood.
And then you like get into this, like how you know it's just
this system, Right, and you getinto this system.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Well, I will say Robert F Kennedy Jr did sort of
cycle policies for the people,where you can suggest policies
that you think is important toyou.
Cool, and where do they go?
Well, they go to the Trumpcampaign, because he's gone to
them.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
But I, I will say, I will do Republican things, I
won't do anything for Trump, butI do.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I think RFK has a great idea.
I wish we'd do this on.
Both parties should do this.
It's actually a very cool thingbut, like, one of the biggest
ones they have right now is termlimits.
So, like to your point, I thinkwe had term limits for Congress
, which I think both partieslike anybody on both parties say
term limits.
I think we'd have much fresherpeople coming into Congress and
shaking it up.
We'd have people that weren'tterm politicians, like lifelong

(44:53):
politicians.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Blaine, why don't you go into politics?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
So I want to talk about that for a second, because
I do like this idea of likefresh right, Like you get
someone's oh, I've been in thisfor 50, 60 years but also like,
if you cut it off too short andit's like this turnover every
four or eight years, how longdoes someone get to like carry
through something that theyinitiated?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Well, look, I think a politician could easily get
stuff done, and I think they'dhand it off to the next guy too.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yes, anyone that's a good leader should be able to
pass things on.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
What am I saying?
Anyone that's a good leadershould be able to pass things on
.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Things shouldn't take two years, right?
Like they should be able to getstuff done in two years, right?
Yes, they should.
Like they should be able to getstuff done in two years, right,
yes, they should.
I mean, like I love JeffJackson.
I thought he was a breath offresh air in the house.
He's a Democrat from NorthCarolina.
He's going to be running forattorney general because they
redistrict him, so his seat isgoing to be lost.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
What we're ultimately trying to say is listeners, is
that we accept you for whomeveryou choose to vote for?
1,000 percent, 100, is that weaccept you for whomever you
choose to vote for?
That was upset 100, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
We would never be mad .

Speaker 2 (46:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Right, ryan, I'm not hesitating because I'm not
supportive of that.
I was thinking about Reid whenyou said you didn't vote, so I
think the point is you shouldeducate yourself and vote
whatever you feel is important.
Yes absolutely the country thatwe want to be.
That we know, we are Right.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
On top of that, outside of voting once every
presidential election cycle, oh,do your local all the time.
You like getting involved allthe time, and I really do think,
like in your community, youshould be advocating for
legislation, local staff I'mactually going to probably be a
precinct chair, I think andgetting involved locally on the

(46:45):
state level of texas governmentwise and I, I want to say so,
like, even so, like before, I,you know, went to vote, not this
, well, not this current time,but I have right, like I'm like
wait, wait, wait, back it up.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
You said you haven't voted before.
No, I voted this like I'm likewait, wait, back it up.
You said you haven't votedbefore.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
No, I voted this one.
I'm talking about okay, notthis exact in this moment in
time this voting cycle, but,like previously, I guess maybe
it was two years ago I'mthinking of a specific story,
but I was like I want to go inand I want to be educated on,
you know, all the people, allthe propositions.
I'm not looking democrat orrepublican.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I want to look everybody up and see what's
going on and I researched all ofthem ahead of time, right, and
to be clear listeners, the onlytime I did not vote was in 2016.
And my feelings?

Speaker 3 (47:34):
then were.
I wasn't trying to hold on tothat.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
It's okay.
It's okay, I don't take itpersonal.
I'll hold on to that, it's okay.
It's okay, I don't take itpersonal I'll hold on to other
things.
Okay, I don't take it personal.
Even then, I felt like I wastoo ignorant to vote, if I'm
being completely honest, and Ididn't do enough research and I
also registered republican men.
So, yeah, I didn't realize allthe the backlash and the
importance of voting.

(47:58):
If I'm being completely honest,I I just didn't Like where do
you like?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
feel like, oh my gosh , which one are you?
I remember that from a veryearly on, like as soon as you
could vote which one are youRepublican or Democrat?
And it's like and I thinkthat's where we relate, even in
our LGBTQ community Like there'sthese boxes.
Are you this box, or are youthis box?
And you feel this force.
Yeah, pressure lots, yeah, andyou're like well, I like a
little bit of that and I like alittle bit of that.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
By the way, every time I vote for Republicans,
democrats and stuff.
Every election I researcheverybody and everything.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Right, and that's the exact reason why I changed it.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I researched all the Republicans.
I didn't like anything theysaid, so I ended up doing all
the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
You never voted did many elections.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
But I looked, I looked them up and I just I
couldn't.
I.
But I did, I want to research.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I wanted to research again, not everything's monolith
and you have to look at records, especially like judges.
I think that's a big one too,in my opinion.
I get really into this.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
So that's exactly why I, after 20, after the 2016
election, I changed toindependent because I got I got
sick of it.
I was getting bullied andpressure on both sides.
I'm like, listen, neither ofyou are are coming at me with
anything, don't most?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
people literally feel like that, like why can we not
change from this two-party?
Because it's like no one like.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Let me be clear.
I'm not a delicate flower.
I can handle a bit of pressure,but it was getting ridiculous
that I was being pressured tovote for someone based off of oh
, because that one's an asshole,so you got to vote for this one
.
If that's all you can do toexplain it to me, then no, I'm
not voting for anybody.
But you know, educate me alittle bit more than just oh
well, that one's an asshole, soyou don't vote for that one's an

(49:37):
asshole, so you don't vote forthat one.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I think that is becoming a huge problem.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
The bullying has to stop and we can't just be like
anti something we have to be andthen it's not going to happen
immediately, because in thismoment, unfortunately, I think
we do have to choose betweensome people will right and so,
but like how?
The takeaway is like is there away for us to shift away from

(50:01):
that?
How can we get to where we'renot, in a place where, like, I'm
only voting for this personbecause I feel like they're less
of an asshole or they're notthe asshole and that's why I'm
voting for someone?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I think the biggest thing that everyone needs to do
and I mean that for both sidesis listen to the other person.
We always come back to thatvery important yeah, absolutely
listening to the other personand and opening up dialogue I
mean both parties to the realism, all right yeah in my opinion
and just to say uh, first of all, I'm not saying that I'm voting
for trump, I'm not.

(50:33):
I would never tell you guys whoI'm voting for, but um, but, um,
both, but both.
Kamala and Trump.
For example, kamala can't,shouldn't, I shouldn't say can't
, I shouldn't respond back toTrump's bullshit with the same
fucking bullshit, you know thesame attitude Like that doesn't,
that doesn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
And it worked its way down to everybody else.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Right yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
A very toxic culture.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, and I and I and I can totally sit there and see
that she's just like, well,whatever trump can fucking do it
, so I'm gonna, you know, do ittoo.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
that's not healthy if there it is, I just think it's
not landing no, it's not stickto stick to.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
You know the policies and everything else that you're
, that you.
I'm not going against her, it'syou rocking.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
But see this, sorry, I know I don't know if it's the
espresso martini.
I'm not going against her.
It's you, ryan, but it's you.
Sorry, I know I don't know ifit's the espresso martini.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I'm not like to be clear.
I'm not going against her, I'mjust saying an example, Because
her best sales pitch is notbeing like Trump, Don't you get
it?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
But by the way she's done, Not at all Point.
She's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
We're exhausted.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
We're exhausted from what all of it?
I can't wait for november 5th,because I just don't want to
hear it anymore yeah a few otherpieces of legislation.
Just want everyone to knowabout really quick, oh perfect
two more save schools andmovement act that protects lgbtq
students from anti-bullying,which I think is great.
I don't know why we haven'tpassed that one.

(51:58):
That sounds sounds pretty easy.
And then there's theTherapeutic Fraud Prevention Act
, which actually would prohibitconversion therapy practices at
the federal level, which I thinkalso would be pretty great.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Wow, you're just going to drop in those last two.
Are those teasers?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
No, those are just two other pieces of legislation
that, specifically, are in theHouse right now.
They're in committee with theEquality Act, which has not had
a lot of movement, and they'rejust chatting about it, and the
HRC is, you know, clearly notdoing much so quickly for our
game.
Yes, I'm going to give you aquote and you're going to tell
me if it's a donkey or anelephant, so democratic.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
What.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Oh, come on.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
What.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
What?
Okay, we're just going to gowith it and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
The government's first duty is to protect the
people, not run their lives.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I feel like Elephant liked to say it, but then
they're actually just false andfaking it and they actually do
want to run people's lives.
Elephant I already saidElephant.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Elephant.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Correct, it was Ronald Reagan.
That's a great guy.
Reynolds is going to love mefor saying this.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
We all do better when we all do better.
Donkey, donkey.
Yes, that was Paul Weston,democratic Senator for.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Minnesota.
This is kind of fun.
Games are fun.
I want to do more of theseLabor unions are folks who
brought you the weekend.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, donkey.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Elephant.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
It was donkey.
That's definitely like ademocratic one.
That's actually like reallydistributed democrat, I'm sure
because they supported laborunions.
Poverty is a moral issue.
America is rich enough to notlet people suffer.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Donkey.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Donkey Correct Um support for common sense gun
control.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Donkey, I want to say um elephant, just to be ironic.
It's modern.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Republicans Pat Toomey and Susan Collins Finally
someone I can.
That was a little crazy one.
Support for stricter antitrustregulations to limit the power
of big corporations, donkey.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
It's a donkey, it's an elephant.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
It's an elephant, josh Hawley, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
I really love how Blaine blindsided us with this.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I know I couldn't help myself.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Political episode.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Freedom means freedom for everyone.
Donkey, donkey, it's Ashley andEllison and I'm.
This is gross to say becauseWhoa Um, dick Cheney in support
of marriage, equality andunexpected stance for a
Republican, but I detest him.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Well, that was a fun game.
We could have done that.
Thank you.
So yeah, that was fun.
This has been an hour and ahalf and we still have a long
way to go.
Not going to be solved in onepodcast, but, as always, I think
the takeaway is to listen, asReed reminded us.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yes, be patient with each other and listen to each
other.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Listen and love each other.
By the way, like let's not bemean to each other.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
But also, at a certain point, listen, and then
you need to have some act.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Do you guys remember back when Prop 8 was a thing?

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
No, my mom calls me up during that whole thing and
she's like Rita, I just want youto know I can't vote for prop 8
because of this reason.
It's not because of it wasall-encompassing, like there was
something in there about, um,if you live with your partner
for more than 10 years, then itwas all-encompassing with the

(55:34):
gay marriage right.
And because my grandfather andmy his lady friend at the time
weren't married and if mygrandfather ever died, my mom
was voting against it for thatreason.
But the respect that my mom hadto contact her gay son, who was
ignorant already and didn'teven know what the fuck she was
talking about, was enough for meto realize like wow, she

(55:57):
contacted me just saying, hey, Iwanted you to know.
I would have do her known ifshe had voted against it or for
it.
But the fact that she took thetime out to explain it to me,
you know, that's just oneexample.
Everyone needs to listen toeach other and be open to Listen
, love and calm the hell down.
Yeah, man love, love.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
It's not that personal.
I know it was Taylor Swift oncesaid you need to calm down.
You had to.
Why?
Why, he knows.
I'm saying that because of howmuch Blaine loves Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I yeah, no, we haven't done that episode yet.
There's another episode.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Oh we could talk about her.
No, no, we can't.
No, we're not going to.
Just one little note seeing herjust at Wembley and surprising
Bradley was just aside from who.
It was right, like Taylor.
But just to be in a venue likethat in historic, I'm just gonna
say it felt pretty phenomenal.
That's all in London and it wasreally.

(56:52):
I was excited to surpriseBradley with Red's, his favorite
album, and to throw his at-shirt.
I got on eBay and say someone'sin town and she wants you to
wear this tonight.
It was just a really fun,special moment for me.
So, aside from who it is, it'snot saying whatever or anything,
it was just really good it wasreally good.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Well, I will be posting links to different
resources for you to educateyourself on gay legislation.
You can go to congressgov,human rights campaign, american
civil liberties union andabacuscom.
Post it in the notes and yeah,thanks for listening.
Thanks for another episode ofcoffee with gays.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Welcome, reed thank you for having me well, cheers,
guys love you.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
We're gonna go to brad.
I would not brad here.
We go well cheers.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Thank you for Cocktails with Gaze.

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