Exploring Haunted New Orleans 👻 — Ghost Stories, Voodoo & Queer Legends - Coffee with Gays™: Every Sip Is A Story

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Welcome to Coffee with Gaze.
This is our spooky seasonepisode since spooky season has
started.
And I'm Blaine.
And I'm Reed.
And we have a special guesttoday, our friend of the show,
Joseph Frederica.

SPEAKER_02 (00:12):
Hello.

SPEAKER_01 (00:13):
Do you want to introduce yourself a little bit?
You've given us some guests, andwe're going to be interviewing
some of your clients soon.

SPEAKER_02 (00:18):
Yeah.
Wonderful.
So again, thanks so much forhaving me, especially during
spooky season, the most fabuloustime of the year, in my opinion,
for many different reasons.
But I'm the marketing maven asI'm known on social media.
I'm also a published author, andI love all things horror.
A little mean in a nutshell.

SPEAKER_01 (00:36):
So we thought it would be perfect to kind of have
a Halloween episode with you.
I do have my fall colors on.
That's about as far as I go.
And I don't have my pumpkinsyet.
I have to say, I do have a lotof pumpkins in my physics during
fall.
You do too?

SPEAKER_02 (00:52):
Oh, the boxes.
We have boxes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 (00:55):
We should do a video a pumpkin carving episode.

SPEAKER_01 (00:59):
Well, we are having a pumpkin carving party here in
Dallas, so uh we should do that.
That'll be fun.
No, you didn't get that inviteyet.
Reed doesn't get invited toanything because he never shows
up and he's always late.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14):
That's it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15):
So when don't worry, Reed, you will get the invite to
the pumpkin carving contest orparty.
I promise.
But you better show up.
If you don't show up, we'renever inviting you again.
Done and done.
That's okay.
So, Joseph, we were kind oftalking about this episode and
how we're coming into this funseason.
I think it's been um, I don'tknow, kind of a very serious

(01:38):
time.
And I think we've done like someserious episodes, so we want to
do something fun.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:44):
Why do you like spooky season so much?
Let's start there.

SPEAKER_02 (01:48):
I have always loved Halloween.
I was raised in a verysuperstitious Italian family.
So every time growing up, itscared the hell out of me.
Number one, right?
So if a if a ball blew or a doorslammed or a wind came through
the home or something, myfamily, including my

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grandparents, would say, Oh, hi,and the name of a deceased
relative.
And I'm like, A, I don't knowwho the hell this person is, and
B, that's scary as shit, right?
So I was always like intriguedby learning more about what the
other side meant and what, youknow, it meant to be spooky or
to to just live with it, right?

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And then, of course, my love forRL Stein and Ann Rice and
Christopher Rice and all of thatin horror movies.
It's just, it's just fun, and itreally speaks to the gay
experience, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 (02:41):
So why do you think I have to ask this question?
Why do you think the gays are soobsessed with Halloween?
I always am fascinated by it.

SPEAKER_02 (02:48):
Because, you know, it speaks to the queer
experience, especially the queermale experience, especially
vampires and vampirism.
Um, as you know, as as a studyof literature and loving all
things dead and deceased, aswell and sexy, because it'll
especially Halloween seasonallows us to come out of the
shadows and allow our freak flagto fro to fly, you know, as as

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because we wait till Halloweenfor that.

unknown (03:14):
Huh?

SPEAKER_01 (03:15):
I was about to say, don't we let our freak flag fly
a lot?
If I said that.

SPEAKER_02 (03:19):
I don't think I don't think most of us do.
I mean, as we get older and ofcourse, you know, become more
more more comfortable with whowe are.
Again, this is just my opinionfrom you know being a
42-year-old and having a lot ofconversations about this over
the years.
I feel that society paints usnow more than ever as monsters,
as queer people, especially thetrans community.

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And Halloween is a time, spookyseason, we can really lean into
the crystals and the witchcraftand the vamp, you know, the
vampires and New Orleans andvoodoo and just and just enjoy
it and then feed off its energyand then give it back into the
universe.

SPEAKER_01 (03:56):
These are all very old port cities, by the way.
So New Orleans, Savannah, andSt.
Augustine.
So they have like all thisreally old, rich history that I
find really fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 (04:06):
Have you ever taken a ghost tour in any of the
cities?

SPEAKER_01 (04:09):
I have.

SPEAKER_03 (04:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (04:10):
Both in New Orleans and in Savannah.
Have you?
Who me?
Because you've been, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (04:15):
A million ghost tours.
My upcoming one is gonna be umactually um in New Hope,
Pennsylvania in a few weeks.
I have never been on that ghosttour.
So I've been to on many in NewOrleans, I've been on many in
Maryland, Eddiesburg, a fewexperiences there myself.
So yes.

(04:37):
Yes, 100% yes.

SPEAKER_01 (04:38):
So you had an experience in New Orleans.

SPEAKER_02 (04:41):
I've had at a hotel in particular.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (04:44):
So what was the main one that you had at like I guess
what was it, at a hotel in theFrench quarter?

SPEAKER_02 (04:49):
Yeah, it was the hotel one.
That was our first year.
My first time in New Orleans,2014.
We stayed at the Maison Dupuis,and my friend and I, you know,
went out for the day, came back,had some drinks, and then we
were in the lobby before goingout to dinner on an actually
ghost tour and to go out for thenight again after changing.

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And I forgot something in thehotel room.
And it was on the third, fourthfloor, something like that,
again of the Maison du Puy inthe French Quarter.
And I said, Okay, you grab ussome drinks at the bar.
I'm gonna go get my wallet orcash, whatever the hell it was.
And it was pretty quiet becauseeveryone's out partying,
dancing, enjoying the music.
And I get my stuff.

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I don't feel strange whatsoever.
It's kind of quiet before dinnertime.
I lock the door, I come down thehallway around the band, and
there's a double um shafted umelevator right in the middle of
the building, like two whiteframe doors.
And in between the doors camelike an eight-foot man through

(05:54):
the broken wallpaper.

SPEAKER_01 (05:57):
Eight foot tall.

SPEAKER_02 (05:59):
Eight foot tall.
Swear to god.
And it was only half of him, andhe was smoky, and he looked well
to do, sort of.
He looked like he was burnt,like smoky smoke was coming off
of him, and he looked like achalk owl.
And he had a top hat and afloppy bow tie, and he was just
casually walking past me, youknow, where I had just come
from, and I was walking towardsthe elevator shafts, and I

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looked up at him, like literallylooked up at him, and he looked
down at me, he kind of smirked,and he walked away.
He didn't say anything, wedidn't really communicate
besides, you know, justacknowledging each other.
And then he disappeared into theether.
And I went downstairs and Isaid, Melinda, you'll never
fucking believe what justhappened to me.

SPEAKER_03 (06:42):
How much pregaming did you guys do before you?

SPEAKER_02 (06:45):
How much pregaming?
New Orleans is like partycentral.

SPEAKER_03 (06:49):
Well, I was just curious to know if you were on
mushrooms or something.
Like, I'm curious to know whatbrought it up.

SPEAKER_02 (06:53):
No, no, no, just booze.
No, no gummies, no, no, nothing.
Just it was just it was justbooze.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:00):
There is something very interesting about these
kind of old, um, these oldcities.
They literally do have somethingabout them that are just they
have a different level ofenergy.
I mean, this is in New Orleans.
I was in Portugal two years agoand super old.
Another port city.
I think it's these port cities.
I'm telling you, like, there'ssomething about like the sailors

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and all this, like, because I'veonly had these experiences in
like really like a lot of portcities.
But the same thing to you.
I was staying with my friend, hewas hooking up with this guy, so
I was staying in the living roomand in my because my bedroom was
next door, didn't want to hearit.
Of course.
And so I was in the living room,and then I heard the guy leave,
and I was like, Oh, okay, heleft.

(07:44):
And then, like, I literally likewas sitting on the couch in this
very long hallway, and I sawsomebody go walk out the front
door again.
And I was like, I was like,Chris, like, what, like, what?
Like, I knew this guy had left,heard the door close.
I was like, Chris, is that you?
But my friend, and then I go upthere.

(08:04):
My friend is literally asleep.
And he's and then I woke him upand he was like, he's like, no,
that was me.
I've just been in here.
And I'm like, that is so crazy.
I saw somebody literally walkdown that hallway, and then I
had to like sleep in thatbedroom.
I was so terrified.
Like Lee was our last night, andso you didn't lose sounds.

SPEAKER_02 (08:26):
I mean, I have a ghost in my hallway here in
Morristown, and this is not aport city.
This is a revolutionary city,but it's not a port city.

SPEAKER_01 (08:33):
So, anyway, you know, I've never really been
scared, I guess, of the otherside.
You know, my great-grandmother,I think.
So my family is Native Americanon my great on my
great-grandmother's side.
I know I don't look at LM superwhite.
I get it, I get it.
Ha ha ha.
But you know, when there's agenocide of Native American
people, then there's very few ofyou left.
But my great-grandmother, mygreat-great-grandmother, she was
full-blooded.

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So anyway, I don't know.
They just had a very spiritualconnection.
So my great-grandmother wouldsee stuff all the time and talk
about it.
And I remember mygreat-grandfather died of
cancer.
She said, Oh, he just came inlast night and just sat on my
bed and like, no big deal.
Just like it was just like everyday.
So I learned, I think, from afairly early age to not be
afraid of things.

(09:14):
Sure.
And I think that's always beenkind of like a thing.
I have to ask, Reed, have youhad any experiences?

SPEAKER_03 (09:22):
I mean, none that I would necessarily share.
I'm uh, I am a I am a believer.
I I'm not a non-believer.
I just keep that stuff to myselffor I just feel like if you
speak too much about it or talktoo much about it, then it then
maybe you lose it.
Does that make any sense?

(09:42):
Like, I feel like I've been veryprotected by my paranormal
activity or my paranormalpartners, whatever you want to
call them.
Sure.
I I feel like I've just beenvery protected and grateful, and
I don't want to speak ill ortarnish that relationship I have
with them.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (10:00):
Way to make me feel bad, Reed.

SPEAKER_02 (10:03):
I don't feel bad about my sharing my experiences,
but but I I'm holding space,honestly, for Reed.
And I and I and I respect that.
I understand that.
Having many experiences myself,yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
So let's get back to like, I don't know, some of your
experiences in particular.
I think.
Wait, can you tell me aboutMarie Laveau?
Number one, let's explain topeople who she was.
And if you've ever watchedAmerican Horror Story Coven,
that was the best season ofAmerican Horror Story.
It died after.

SPEAKER_03 (10:29):
Hands down.
Oh, I feel like Asylum.
I still feel like Asylum likegives it.

SPEAKER_01 (10:34):
That's because they brought the Coven people back.
That's why it was good.
Did you ever watch Coven?

SPEAKER_03 (10:39):
Coven was after Asylum.
Asylum was season two.

SPEAKER_01 (10:43):
Asylum.
Oh, you liked Asylum.

SPEAKER_03 (10:45):
Oh I loved Asylum.
I love Jessica Lane, though.
The aliens?
That was at the alien?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:53):
Mental institution.

SPEAKER_03 (10:54):
It was the yeah, it was the mental institution based
on the city.

SPEAKER_02 (10:57):
And then it had like a sub.
Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (11:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (11:01):
That was early on, you know, season early on, too.
But Coven, my heart goes toCoven.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (11:07):
I'm gonna have to like rewatch it because it was
so good.
Watched it on the clips.

SPEAKER_02 (11:11):
But yeah.
Oh well that was really good toobecause they brought everyone
back.
Not in the same way.
Not in the same way.
So it was good, but meh.

SPEAKER_01 (11:19):
But Marie Laveau obviously was a big part of the
Coven storyline.
So what was your experience withthat?
Because I noticed she put thatin the notes, and I just had to.
I did.

SPEAKER_02 (11:27):
I did.

SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
So and you have to explain who she is because some
people might not know.

SPEAKER_03 (11:32):
Okay.
Marie Laveau, wasn't she the sheowned a plantation, right?
She was a plantation owner,wasn't she?
She was the voodoo queen of NewOrleans.
She's the one that was played byKathy Bates.

SPEAKER_02 (11:46):
No, that was Madame La Lerie.

SPEAKER_01 (11:49):
Which is a real character, a real person.

SPEAKER_03 (11:52):
So Angela Bassett was Marie Laveau.
The best Marie Laveau.
Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 (11:58):
But yeah.
So she's the witch queen of NewOrleans, and say that she never
died.
But historically speaking,genetically speaking, she had
daughters that looked like her.
So they kind of all played thesame part and you know carried
on her legacy throughout NewOrleans and its history.
But she was a free woman ofcolor at the time, and she was a
hairdresser.
So she got all the white peopleinvolved with, you know, or

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learned about all the gossipthrough doing their hair and
then helping them with spellsand love potions and all these
other fun, fun little things.

SPEAKER_03 (12:32):
So witchcraft and voodoo.
I'm curious to know thedifference between standard
witchcraft and whatever craftMarie Lavaux, like my voodoo.
Is it is voodoo is voodoo is itvoodoo and then witchcraft or is
voodoo an affiliate ofwitchcraft?

SPEAKER_02 (12:48):
I think they're interchangeable to a certain
extent.
You know, witchcraft witchcraftis more Americanized.
It's more like European.
And uh voodoo derives fromHaiti.
And then there's voodoo, whichis like American folk magic,
which is it really started inNew Orleans.
If you watch The Skeleton Key,it kind of explains what hoodoo
is.
It's you have to believe it tohave it affect you.

(13:09):
Hudu.
Now, you know, voodoo isactually a religion.
So they are all different.

SPEAKER_01 (13:14):
Hudu you have to believe in order for it to
affect you.
Correct.
Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
So you can be hexed, you know, and hoodoo and voodoo,
but just in different ways, forinstance.

SPEAKER_01 (13:22):
So our the psychic that I well, I got Reed going to
her, but she's like Dallas'biggest second.
We're trying to get her on theshow, actually, but she's had
cancer for many years.
So yeah, okay.
It's been up and down for her,but she's so amazing.
But she's always given me likethese little hoodoo things.
There was someone in my life Iwanted to get rid of, and she
gave me this voodoo powder thingthat I needed to get called

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Hotfoot, and I I never did it.

SPEAKER_02 (13:46):
I was gonna say, well, did it work?
But I guess not.
You didn't try it.

SPEAKER_01 (13:49):
No.
Actually, it worked in oppositebecause I didn't do it.
So Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (13:54):
Well, it's just so ironic how closely uh
witchcraft, voodoo, andreligion, spirituality kind of
come full circle.
I actually do.

SPEAKER_02 (14:07):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of the deities inCatholicism actually carry over
into voodoo and voodoo, just indifferent ways as well.
So they're all like intertwined.

SPEAKER_01 (14:19):
Yeah, we were just talking about this.
So I go to this Chango Botanicain Dallas that has like been
around for 40 years, and it'sreally just a mix of Catholicism
and I don't know, I call itCatholic mysticism, quite
frankly.

SPEAKER_03 (14:33):
I mean, I'm not sure.
So growing up Catholic, I'm notsure I ever heard uh a separate
side other than the Bible andyou know, the basic Catholic
religion.
But I do know that my mombelieved in after my grandmother
passed away, she believed verymuch like if a light turned on,
if a light turned off, oh,that's your grandma, oh that's

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you know, spirituality and andyou know, whatnot, but never
anything directly affiliatedwith like witchcraft, if that or
like crystals or anything likethat.
Nothing was directly affiliated,but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:06):
But think about how old the Catholic Church is.

SPEAKER_03 (15:10):
Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:11):
And where that really came from is really
paganism, you know what I mean?
So, and think of the crusades,think of all the blending here
in America.
We're a melting pot, still are,you know?
So they are all intertwined.
I mean, of course, it alldepends on who you who you talk
to.
I think in layman's terms,witchcraft is more like American

(15:33):
magic, you know what I mean?
Right.
Arriving from Europe.
Again, voodoo is definitely fromHaiti, and then Hoodoo is like
American folk magic, NativeAmerican folklore as well, kind
of mixed in there.
So Oh, go ahead.
No, no, go ahead, go ahead.
No, but Laveau, I've I've I'vehad an experience.

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I mean, I went to her tomb andthey had just rebuilt and
repainted and renovated her.

SPEAKER_01 (16:00):
Can you just also explain like what the tombs in
New Orleans look like?
I'll put it on the video.

SPEAKER_02 (16:04):
Yeah, so they are so they're all above ground.
They're all above ground becausethe water table is, you know, so
yeah, is really, really deep.
It's the whole city's below uhwater level.
So if they put or bury theirloved ones and deceased in
graves, they would float.

(16:25):
Yeah.
And they there would be mayhem,and there has been historically,
you know, speaking, so they burythem above ground.
Um, and I learned this in NewOrleans on one of the many, many
tours I had been on.
They put their loved ones in thetomb, and it's so hot in
Louisiana that it takes about ayear or so for the body to fully

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decompose, and then theyactually open up the tomb, they
take the body out, and they dowhat they need to with that
loved one, and then theyactually reuse that tomb for
another uh funeral.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't really realize that.
I didn't realize that either.
But like that they keep reusingit.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (17:06):
Wow.

SPEAKER_02 (17:08):
True story.

SPEAKER_01 (17:09):
That's really crazy.
I can't believe that they likereused the tombs.

SPEAKER_03 (17:13):
Just for yeah.
Sorry, is it just for families?

SPEAKER_02 (17:17):
I mean, they're like family-owned plots, so it could
be for anyone, but families liketypically.
But Laveau so has this supposedtomb where everybody and you
can't do this anymore, it'sillegal to even go into St.
Louis number one.
Only film crews are allowed, Ibelieve, now because all the
things that have happened, youknow, there.

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Um, but people draw three X'sand they leave pennies and
things for Laveau, you know, forfor spells and for luck and to
pray to her.
Um, and I couldn't do that.
So I I did have my three littlepennies ready.
And when everyone left, I leftthree pennies as an offering
before I left.
And then about two, three yearsago, I actually I see spirits

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once in the blue moon, and I wason another podcast recording,
and Laveau had actually she cameto me on on a recording years
ago.
So she blessed me.
On a podcast?
The podcast.

SPEAKER_03 (18:09):
Yeah.
It was a spiritual chance.
Can I ask what she said, likehow it went or what she said?

SPEAKER_02 (18:16):
No, she didn't speak, she just she just like
approached me and I felt herpresence.
I saw her with her beautifulskin, her white turban, her
long, gorgeous face, and she wasin a dress, pretty much in
white, and she was just kind oflike looking at me, kind of
seeing what was going on and howI would speak of her.
I spoke very well, of course.
I would never speak ill of Lavo.

SPEAKER_01 (18:36):
Um and she's a deity, and I felt like you would
get smacked down.

SPEAKER_02 (18:42):
Smacked down, yes.
I mean, of course, people takecertain liber uh liberties on on
film and in in coven to you knowpresent these figures in certain
ways, but I think Bassett did awonderful job as as Lavo.

SPEAKER_01 (18:56):
So do you feel like it was accurate?

SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
And and long story short, so oneof the scenes in Coven where
they were doing the it was withSarah Paulson, and I'm not gonna
say, you know, exactly what itwas because I want people to
watch the show and the ourpodcast, but in a scene where
they were doing a um like a drumcircle and spell for the

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character for Fiona Good, notFiona Good, her daughter, I'm
sorry, there was an actualvoodoo practitioner also of the
name Maria Laveau spelled alittle bit differently that that
that actually is a voodoopriestess in New Orleans.
I had contacted her when I wrotemy first book to actually get
the whole project blessed.
I didn't use her, but I usedanother location in New Orleans

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to bless the project.
Crickets.

SPEAKER_01 (19:46):
No, I think it just it's just fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 (19:48):
I think so too.

SPEAKER_01 (19:51):
What would you say your most interesting
supernatural experience hasbeen?
Because clearly you're tied intothis kind of supernational.

SPEAKER_03 (20:01):
I didn't have the chance.
It found me.
I was also gonna Yeah.
Sorry.
Well, maybe you could uh explainhow it found you.

SPEAKER_02 (20:08):
2022, I went to see my clients in the Everglades of
Florida.
And my first one.
Sorry, I'm not laughing at you.
No, no, no, I know.
So I was fighting like impostersyndrome.
It was my first time reallyworking, you know, on a long
trip, creating content, youknow, all the above.
And I went down Turner River,both sides, with my team and my

(20:33):
clients.
And we were paddling through themangrove tunnels, paddling
pattern, like like four or fivehours, early morning to
mid-afternoon.
And I felt such a spiritualconnection to the energy in
those tunnels, learning aboutthe history with a tour guide
from a tour guide as I waspaddling and struggling, but
learning to have confidence inmyself and trust my team to get

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me through all these twists andturns.
And I came back about four orfive days later, back to New
Jersey from Florida.
And I was, I was almost dizzy.
Like I felt like I wasstraddling two worlds and I
spoke to my spirituals about it.
That's how I got into crystals.
That's how I got more into thespiritual realm of learning
about my, I wouldn't call it apower.

(21:15):
It's my whatever you want tocall it, blank.
Um, and then I felt like a partof me had actually died in the
mangroves while I was inFlorida, just like struggling to
find my true voice, my true pathwith the gay community, with the
trans community, just in socialmedia marketing in general and
PR, but in a natural spiritualmanner.

(21:36):
And um, ever since I've I've hadeven more experiences.
I've seen uh the deceased um allover the place, especially that
summer, which I can get into ina moment, in Gettysburg.
I think I put in the notes withyou guys.
A bit of a zombificationexperience, which was also
freaks me out.
Um, and then I actually alsohear the deceased once in the

(21:59):
blue moon if I can reallycommunicate and concentrate with
them.

SPEAKER_01 (22:03):
I would say like my experience with this is more a
feeling less like I said, Imean, I had the few times that
I've seen things or have beenthose times.
I guess by the way, as a child,I pulled my grandfather's
picture off the wall and waslike papa, papa, but he had died

(22:27):
of a heart attack and I nevermet him, so I didn't know who he
was.
Sure.
So, like things like that thatmy mom said, and she knew there
was someone in the house.
So those things have liketotally happened.
But I just I feel like I'vealways had, and I don't know if
it's just a diff different levelof like spiritual connection,
but I also do believe that weall have like different kinds of
gifts and like what we can andcan't see.
Like I would always say, like,my mom always said I had like a

(22:50):
gift of discernment.
Like I can meet somebody andpretty much immediately tell if
they're like kind of a goodperson.
And I will be like, no, to thebad people.
I mean, just and I'm always I'musually always right.
I was never wrong about it.

SPEAKER_03 (23:04):
Except well, I I was wrong once, but I was gonna say,
I think he's been wrong severaltimes.
That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 (23:11):
No, no, has it once.
Stop.
That is me ignoring the gift.
That's the problem.

SPEAKER_03 (23:17):
Has a psychic ever told you this?
Because just say most psychicreadings that I've had have all
told me, oh, you know, you couldread for people.
Oh, you could read for people.
And I'm like, no, no, I can't.
They're like, yeah, yeah, youcan.
I've always thought that I'vehad a decent judge of character,
is if you want to call it.
But I'm more of a feeling, likeBlaine was explaining, rather

(23:38):
than seeing, if I have seenanything, it has been a black
shadow that's like run reallyfast.
Or if I'm laying down on thecouch and I look up, I'll see
like a silhouette, but I'll turnaround really quick and it'll
be, you know what I mean?
It will be gone.

SPEAKER_02 (23:56):
And you know, who it was or what it was.

SPEAKER_01 (23:58):
Yeah, that's like what you're describing is like
my great-grandmother.
Like she would like have theseexperiences where it was like
this person from the past likecame and talked to me.

SPEAKER_04 (24:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (24:08):
And she's like, no joke.
And she's not, she wasChristian, but she was also very
just spiritual.
I can't explain it.

SPEAKER_02 (24:17):
Spiritual, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (24:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (24:19):
Yeah.
But my worst, my worstexperience was in Gettysburg.
That same year, a few monthsafter I had gotten back.

SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
Let's go.
Let's talk about Gettysburg.

SPEAKER_02 (24:27):
Uh Chuck Olusky, that whole straddling two worlds
and trying to figure out, youknow, who I was and and what my
gifts were, at least they werepresenting, you know, in my
life.
So we were in Myrtle Beach fortwo weeks, drove.
That's the first time.
No, not the first time we haddriven.
Yes, it was after COVID.
We stopped flying, we starteddriving, enjoying life again and

(24:49):
road tripping again in America,not to the Midwest and back, but
a shorter version of that.
And we were gonna stop for lunchand to go to the bathroom, gas
up, and just have a break beforegetting back to New Jersey.
So I had been to Gettysburg oncebefore.
I had an experience there, andnothing compares to this by any
means.
So we stopped in McDonald's.
But the GPS had kept on, it tookus through a battlefield and

(25:13):
cemetery, and we couldn't getout of it.
It just kept on, you know,pushing us just deeper and
deeper into this battlefield.
And on the playlist, you know,it was unplanned, unbeknownst to
us.
The end of the black parade bymy chemical romance was playing
where the like battle drums, youknow, like the end of the song.

(25:34):
So okay, nothing really spookyabout that.
Just in hindsight, kind ofstrange.
We stopped at McDonald's, theonly place that was really open.
And then we order our food, andwe sit, and there's this big
picture window where my partner,Matt, he sat back facing it, and
I was facing this big windowacross the street from another
battlefield.

(25:55):
We got our food, I went to thebathroom, washed my hands, bent
over, looked up in the mirror,and I saw a lightning flash in
my eyes and in my face, and I,you know, saw the person looking
back at me was a version ofmyself back from the Civil War
with a beard, long hair, myuniform was on.
Um, so that was the first partof my experience in Gettysburg

(26:18):
that time.
And then it got worse.

SPEAKER_01 (26:21):
What do you think that meant?

SPEAKER_03 (26:23):
I was about to ask, did you ever look into it and
find out if you had any anyrelatives that know?

SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
To this day, I have not looked into that.
I'm actually too spooked too, tobe honest, with that part.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What did it mean?
I think it was I I was given asign to like re reflect on my
past because I had just had thatexperience in in you know the
Everglades in the mangrovetunnels a few months prior.
So then I got back to my seatand I was pale.

(26:51):
And my partner was like, Okay,what's wrong?
Like, what's going on?
Let's spill the tea.
I told him what had happened inthe bathroom.
And he's like, he dropped likehis nugget.
He's like, What?
I'm like, yeah.
And then I kind of ignored it,eating my cheeseburger,
delicious, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (27:05):
Not the healthiest, but you know, good road trip
snacks to get home and then wehad cheeseburgers tonight, by
the way, from Shake Shack.

SPEAKER_02 (27:12):
I got a cut down on the cheeseburgers, by the way,
but that's a good thing.
So I'm looking across eating myburgers at this smaller
battlefield, and there was acannon.
And I had seen this general orsomebody higher up in the ranks
on repeat moving this cannon.

(27:32):
Like, not physically, just likein my mind, back and forth and
back and forth, like about fiveto ten times.
And then he noticed me.
I just got chills.
He noticed me looking at him.
Then that subsided for just likea moment, like 30 seconds to a
minute.
Then other soldiers actuallywalked and crawled their way up

(27:52):
to the sidewalk and lined up.
They had noticed me that I hadsome kind of gift that I was
just learning about, and theywere waiting to line up to talk
to me.
But not just a spirit likedeceased noses missing, jaws
missing, bloody skeletal.
And then my partner knewimmediately what was going on,

(28:13):
and I said, We need to get thisto go and we have to get out of
here.
So that was my experience, mysecond experience in uh
Gettysburg.

SPEAKER_01 (28:21):
Wow, it's amazing how I mean, I'm not surprised
that Gettysburg is so haunted.
Very haunted.
Like here in Dallas, we have ahotel called the Adolphus Hotel,
and it's super haunted.
And there's a woman who jumpedfrom the balcony as a bride.
And if you go to that floor,it's actually you can feel the
heaviness of that floor.
There's it's an events floor,but like you can feel it.

(28:42):
It's pretty off.

SPEAKER_03 (28:43):
It's you knew something was going on there.
How long ago did she jump?

SPEAKER_01 (28:49):
I think it was in the early 1900s because the
Adolphus has been around.
It's one of the first hotels inDallas.

SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
Even like Nola, there's such, I mean, even like
just getting off the plane andthen driving to your hotel or
getting an Uber or what haveyou, the heaviness of the city
and the excitement and thehorror.
You can just, you can justRight?

SPEAKER_01 (29:07):
It feels very heavy there.
Heavy.
I will say, like everywhere Igo, it feels very heavy.
I mean, there's obviouslyprobably a lot of sin there, but
um, there's just a lot of umenergy, I think.
You know, I have a funny storyabout NOLA when I first I think
it was it was my first, maybe itwas my first time going as an
adult.

(29:27):
So I went with my best friend,and my best friend is like
obsessed with making you walkeverywhere.
Like he's just can't helphimself.
And we had gone out and got, youknow, NOLA wasted on really bad
liquor.
And yeah, like grain alcohol andsugar.
Yes, grain alcohol, vodka, mixedit all in like all those sugary

(29:50):
drinks that you get and the bigthing and whatever.
I mean, you just went all out.

SPEAKER_04 (29:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (29:56):
And the next day he had a full itinerary, and he's a
big history buff.

unknown (30:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
He's super excited.
Yeah.
So he's super excited.
So he got up and I was sohungover.
I mean, he was hungover too, butI was so hungover.
We end up walking, I think, likeseven miles through the city.
We went to like the ConfederateMuseum and like all these
different, like crazy museums,which by the way, Jefferson,
what was it?
Who's the Confederate president?
Jefferson Davis.
He had really precious slippers.

(30:21):
I'm pretty sure he's gay.

SPEAKER_02 (30:23):
Probably.
I mean, most were.

SPEAKER_01 (30:25):
I know.
I really remember his slipperslike the most from that day, as
miserable as I was, because Iwas like, well, those are really
precious slippers that the gayguy would wear.
But um we end up going back andthen he's like, we're gonna meet
my old professor who used to behere at SMU, and then he's now
in New Orleans.
This guy was fascinating.
First of all, I almost passedout in a very antique bookstore

(30:45):
we were in, but he was umstudying vampire culture in New
Orleans.
And it was the first time I everhad really realized that there's
actually real vampire culture inNew Orleans.
There is.
And he took us through it and hehe's studying it.
I mean, he's writing like adissertation on this thing.

SPEAKER_04 (31:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:02):
Have you like had any interactions with anybody
like that at all?
I mean, these people actuallydrink blood, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
I mean, I went to, I'm not gonna say the
establishment, I do notrecommend going there, but
there's a themed something inthe French Quarter that I had
gotten to in 2021.
I went for for Christmas timewith my same, you know, travel
partner.
Her name is Melinda, my bestfriend, my muse, my manager, and

(31:31):
we were wearing masks and we'rea little bit, you know,
pleasantly punched.
And we had gone to one of thesethemed places, and it was very
strange.
Uh, they host the Anne RiceHalloween ball every year, so
you can Google it.
And then I was asking somequestions like journalistic
questions about Anne Rice,because I'm I'm drunk, but also
I want to know, right?
I want to learn while I'mtraveling through Louisiana.

(31:55):
And these people were verystrange, very hush hush.
They didn't really understand myquestions, which were very
straightforward.
So nothing like vampire relateddirectly, but it was like
adjacently related, and theywere very serious about, you
know, kind of closing rankswhile the public was asking
questions about them.
So that's as close as I hadgotten to any vampires in uh in

(32:17):
New Orleans.
Yeah.
Anne Rice, she's an author, themost popular vampire author of
all time, and her son,Christopher Rice, is a queer
author who is gorgeous.

SPEAKER_03 (32:31):
I'm just glad that his mic was on mute when you
asked that.
Yeah, I heard you, and I thinkdid you hear him too?
Well, yeah, yeah.
Hence yeah, he heard you throughmicro my microphone, thankfully.

SPEAKER_02 (32:41):
But I like how to clutch my like my Nola Pearls.
I'm like, what?
You don't know Ann?
It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 (32:48):
I even know Ann Rice's For once.

SPEAKER_01 (32:51):
Reed actually knows somebody that I don't.
And I just okay, I didn't knowAnn Rice.

SPEAKER_02 (32:56):
She had passed right after I had left New Orleans in
2021.

SPEAKER_03 (33:01):
She he talked about her his her hot son.
Her attractive.

SPEAKER_02 (33:06):
Yeah, Christopher Rice's man.
I carry a torch for that boytoo.

SPEAKER_01 (33:12):
Okay, I'm gonna have to look it up.
I just I just didn't know.
I just didn't know.
I mean, he didn't know yet.

SPEAKER_03 (33:17):
We we did discuss this last time we spoke.

SPEAKER_02 (33:19):
You can visit her house in the garden district,
but like she it's not her homeanymore, obviously.
But they moved to California andthat's where Christopher lives.

SPEAKER_03 (33:28):
I remember us talking about this last time we
spoke.
Bigly, yeah, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Because we talked about how wewere gonna do a road trip, a
podcast road trip or some sortof like gay road trip, something
about what's Florida Nola orsomething like that.
Yeah, but I forgot what theevent was.
We did talk discuss going duringthe Halloween season, though.

SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
Well, it's just like it's just like a mini Mardi
Gras.
If you don't want to go to MardiGras, head to Nola for the
Halloween season.

SPEAKER_01 (33:54):
And have you ever been to, for our gay listeners,
have you ever been to SouthernDecadents?
Because that just happened too.

SPEAKER_02 (34:00):
I know it did, and I've never been.
I I want to go.
I want to go.

SPEAKER_01 (34:04):
It's really fun.

SPEAKER_02 (34:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (34:05):
I'm I'm not into a lot of these kind of gay
festival things, but I reallylike Southern Decadence.
It's a different world.

SPEAKER_02 (34:12):
Like if there was an opportunity for me to go for a
film, for instance, orsomething, then I would
absolutely go for these theselarger events.
You know, including Mardi Gras.
I heard you have to go for liketwo and a half weeks, three
weeks.
You have to go a week beforewhile it's calm.
They lock you in basically inthe city during the events, the
big event season, and then youhave to wait a week after to get

(34:34):
out safely um from the cityitself.
It's a big deal.
Mardi Gras's a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 (34:39):
And when is Mardi Gras again?
It's uh It leads up to Lent.
It's the start of Lent.
So April.

SPEAKER_02 (34:45):
So like it all depends, like the end of
February, March, March-ish.
Okay.
And it ends on, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (34:51):
Boy, I'm a bad Christian.
I don't even know when Lent andI was raised Catholic Easter
things.

SPEAKER_03 (34:56):
Yeah.
Lent is around Easter.
I'm sorry, Lent is beforeEaster.

SPEAKER_02 (35:01):
Before it the lead up to Easter.
It ends on Fat Tuesday and thencomes Ash Wednesday.
So whatever day that falls onthe calendar was when that is
that year.

SPEAKER_01 (35:11):
See, I need to go for Fat Tuesday.
That's what I need to do.

SPEAKER_02 (35:14):
That's when all the parades roll.
I mean, like, that's the do-allend all.
All the day parades occur.
It's it's it's like a daytimeparade day, and then it carries
over into the night withpartying and such costumes and
so I guess the real question iswhy haven't you moved to New
Orleans yet?
I'm working on it.
Not moving permanently, though,because it's a real bad, oof,

(35:36):
you know, it's a real red state.
Let's put it that way.

SPEAKER_01 (35:41):
Well, true.
And it's also a poor state.
I mean, it is to tell you.

SPEAKER_02 (35:46):
It is.

SPEAKER_01 (35:46):
I lost the first night.
I was at Southern Decadence onetime.
We went out to Oz, which is thegay bar there.

SPEAKER_02 (35:52):
That's what inspired this Oz, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 (35:55):
So yeah.
Really?
Go on.
It's so fun.
It's definitely my favorite gaybar.
And we went out there, and thatnight, like, I don't even know
how this happened, but like wewent to the this pizza place,
and like, you know, typicalBlaine.
I'm sitting there chatting upwith these guys, and I don't
think they stole my wallet.
What I think uh happened is Ithink I had the pizza and I had

(36:18):
my wallet under the pizza, andthen I went and trashed it.
You put the plate down.

SPEAKER_02 (36:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (36:25):
Yeah.
No, no, no.
I put it in the trash can, likeone of those nasty streets trash
cans in New Orleans.

SPEAKER_02 (36:30):
Yeah, he threw it away.

unknown (36:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (36:32):
You do not want to hang out on bourbon for too
long.
Don't do it if you're afirst-timer.

SPEAKER_01 (36:39):
I was just walking home and with my friend, and the
next morning I didn't notice it.
So then I had it like I wasfreaking out.
I was like, okay, it's now aFriday.
I can't get any credit cards.
And I was like, I'm going to,well, my Amex will overnight an
Amex, but they were supposed toovernight it for Saturday
delivery.
It didn't make it, by the way.

(37:00):
Until it didn't make it in time.
But I literally went and dugthrough the trash can in Bourbon
Street, all that trash to try tofind my wallet.
It smelled so bad.
It was so gross.
It was so human.
It's the grossest thing I'veever done in my entire life,
desperately trying to find mywallet.
But nobody ever used one of mycredit cards.
So I have this thing abouttraveling with credit cards.

(37:22):
Now I only like have like acouple because I have of what I
did in New Orleans.
But here's the thing I learnedabout New Orleans.
They have very littleinfrastructure.
And when I say this, I'm like, Iwas like, okay, I have a Chase
credit card.
I have a Bank of America bankaccount.
And I have a Chase bank account.
Yeah.
And I have a Capital One creditcard, which I should be able to
get something from somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 (37:43):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (37:44):
And literally, they don't have Apple Pay.
Like, I thought I could use theApple Pay virtual cards.
They don't have that anywhere inNew Orleans.
And guess what?
Bank of America doesn't operatein all of America, especially
New Orleans.
They don't have anything in NewOrleans.

SPEAKER_02 (37:58):
I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 (37:59):
There's not a Bank of America branch.
So I was like, what the hell?
And at the time, I think at thetime I actually didn't have a
Chase bank account.
I just had a Chase credit card.
So I was like, oh, maybe I cango like, but all the banks were
like closed by the time I wasdoing this.
Yeah.
And then I couldn't do like cashadvance.
It's crazy.
I was like, this place is crazy.
There's just not a lot ofinfrastructure in New Orleans.
I mean, I guess it did getdestroyed by Katrina, but like I

(38:22):
still don't think it's anexcuse.
It's just a very poor state,really.

SPEAKER_02 (38:25):
It's a very poor state.
There's a lot of money that getspumped into the city, of course,
but they it's it's it'scurrently in shambles,
unfortunately.
And that's a place that alsoholds my heart that I won't go
beautiful climate again and suchhistory.
But the French quarter, thereare slum lords that are holding
on to properties that theyshouldn't be doing, you know, or
having right now.
Like a lot of businesses aregoing out of business, so it's

(38:46):
not doing too well right now.
So if you guys ever have achance, the listeners, please go
to New Orleans and and spend atqueer businesses so you can put
money back to the economybecause it's not doing so well.

SPEAKER_04 (38:58):
There are a lot.

SPEAKER_02 (38:59):
Yeah.
It's a blue it's a blue dot anda red state.
It's a blue dot.
There are a lot of a lot ofqueers um you know in the area.
Again, it holds it should holdyour heart too, because it gets
in your soul if you go at leastonce.

SPEAKER_01 (39:15):
Oh yeah, it's amazing.
And the music too, I think isamazing as well.
I just love it.

SPEAKER_02 (39:19):
Every corner there's something floating out of it
somewhere, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (39:23):
Um have you had the beignets at the beignets?
Have I had the beignets?
Have I had the Month severaltimes?
Cafe Dumont.

SPEAKER_02 (39:32):
In the afternoon, after after partying, at night,
yes.

SPEAKER_01 (39:36):
And then I love that everybody's just playing all the
like cool jazz music and orwhatever that is outside.
It's just so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 (39:43):
It's Zydeco, it's Cajun, it's the jazz, it's all
all the things.
And and voodoo is reallyprominent there too.
And it's not a scary Hollywoodthing.
It's it's a real, you know,living, breathing religion down
in the in the heart of uh NewOrleans.
So it's everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 (40:02):
Scoutings and I think the answer is obvious.
Like, why do they make voodoo inmovies so evil when it's really
not supposed to be?

SPEAKER_02 (40:10):
Because it sells.

SPEAKER_01 (40:11):
Because it sells.
It's a casual It's also probablylike it's probably casual racism
too.

SPEAKER_02 (40:16):
From the I was just it is absolutely no, it's not
casual racism.
It's total racist.
It's racism.

SPEAKER_01 (40:21):
It's just racism.
I mean, the movie industry hasbeen racist for, in my opinion,
its entire history.
It's until recently.
But it's interesting how they'vecategorized it that way when I
don't think actual practitionersof it are are really that way.

SPEAKER_02 (40:38):
No, they're not.

SPEAKER_01 (40:39):
And I know they're not going and pitting pins and
dolls, right?

SPEAKER_02 (40:42):
No, no, and I know many of them.
A few I've had on my podcast inthe past, I've had also had
blessings, you know, sent my wayuh from altars to bless my
projects to make sure I'm doingthe right thing, um, you know,
in honor of the religion and notjust to sell books.
So I have a pretty deepconnection to the voodoo
practice and and religion.

SPEAKER_01 (41:02):
I will say there was this guy on TikTok.
I don't remember his name now.
It was a couple years ago.
I don't know if you ever saw it,but he was challenging all the
witches of TikTok to take himout.
Do you remember this?
It was hysterical.
It was so funny.
And these witches were likesending him like jars of hair
and like really crazy stuff.
But I never actually heard him,I never saw any videos of any

(41:24):
like voodoo people.
It was always these crazy whitegirls that probably weren't
witches.
They were just having like, youknow, meltdowns over this guy.
And he was like, Witches ofTikTok come after me.
I mean, it's so funny becausethey're like TikTok witches.
So they're not really like, Idon't know, they're just not
really legit, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 (41:42):
You know, they're just no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 (41:45):
I mean, unless you're like, it's like it's like
the astrologists of TikTok todaythat have predicted everything
wrong, and then they double,triple, quadruple down.

SPEAKER_02 (41:54):
I mean, like, everybody's gonna make a book.
You know, I I respect thehustle, but like do justice, you
know what I mean?
Witchcraft, voodoo, um, evenastrology.
So just don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (42:08):
It's yeah, I don't I don't believe some of these
astrologers, they're they'rejust not right.
No.
I mean, Reed can talk about itbecause he's been doing the
California Psychics Network.

SPEAKER_02 (42:19):
What?
What's going on there, Reed?
It's embarrassing.

SPEAKER_03 (42:26):
I downloaded that California Psychics app where
you can just you know log in andat any time and connect with a
psychic or whatever.
I tried it out.
I tried it out a couple times.

SPEAKER_01 (42:39):
And be honest, Reed, how many times?

SPEAKER_03 (42:43):
Over the last over the last year, probably four,
four or five.
Okay.
I've had multiple psychics too,just to like test it out.
And they pretty much said thesame thing that Valentina told
me, if I'm being honest.
But one thing of that all ofthem have said still hasn't come

(43:04):
to fruition yet.
So I'm just gonna wait and see,I suppose.
Just spotting your time.
I would like to think so, yeah.
I'd like to be positive.

SPEAKER_01 (43:14):
Let's be honest, so Valentina doesn't charge as much
as they do, or and she spendsway more time with you.

SPEAKER_03 (43:21):
Right.
The embarrassing part is Iprobably spent next to$3,000.
$3,000.

SPEAKER_01 (43:31):
Read on psychics.

SPEAKER_03 (43:35):
If you do it collectively, yeah.
It's one sitting.
So one reading, I was drivingback from Arkansas.
I was driving back from Arkansasin early April.

SPEAKER_01 (43:46):
This is like the 1900 days.

SPEAKER_03 (43:49):
Well, it was stupid because I was driving my truck.
I was it I was on a road trip,you know, back and I had like
six hours left in my drive.
So I thought, okay, sure, I'lljust have a phone call real
quick.
And I wasn't even thinking itwas a$500 phone call, but yeah.
So I was probably spent near$3,000.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (44:08):
And how much was Valentina?

SPEAKER_03 (44:10):
Valentina, I think, was$125 or$100.

SPEAKER_01 (44:12):
She's$125, yeah.
Yeah.
And four hours long.

SPEAKER_03 (44:16):
Right.
And in in retrospect, Idefinitely should have called
Valentina because her readingsare about four four to six
hours.
But and wonderful.
I I loved my reading withValentina.
At the end of the day, I look atit as if I'm if my anxiety is
lower, if I feel more at peaceor more at ease with whatever's
going on, whether it bementally, emotionally, whatever,

(44:37):
I'm well worth it, in myopinion.
And all my readings with theCalifornia Psychic app were
worth it, in my opinion.
Again, it's all about feelingfor me.
Like I'm kind of jealous that Ihaven't had more visual
interactions like you have, ifat all.
But mine's more of a feeling,not really.

(44:57):
Yeah.
It's your intention, yeah.
My I mean, I also have thisrecurring nightmare, which has
gotten a lot worse lately.
But this recurring nightmare offalling, like falling from a
skyscraper, falling from areally tall building.
Just I'll I'll even like startfalling asleep, and out of
nowhere, I'll like jump upbecause I I feel like I'm

(45:18):
falling.
You feel like you're falling.

SPEAKER_02 (45:20):
That's that's a pretty common human experience
or nightmare or dream.
But I I I think because of whatyou were saying earlier, just my
intuition is saying becauseyou're a crossroads and you
haven't found your footing yet.
And that's that's actually anopportunity.

SPEAKER_03 (45:34):
So yeah.
Let's hope so.

SPEAKER_02 (45:38):
Of course it is.

SPEAKER_01 (45:39):
You know who's really good at dreams, Reed?
My mother, Deborah.
You need to talk to her aboutyour dream.

SPEAKER_03 (45:44):
That's another six-hour conversation.

SPEAKER_01 (45:46):
Yeah.
So my mom, uh Reed actuallyhelped uh redo my mom's house
after a tornado hit it.
But yeah, she'll talk to youabout your dream all day long
and she'll ask you all thesequestions and she'll interpret
it for you.
You might not want to know theanswer.
I will say that doesn't soundgood.
Yeah.
I don't think you falling from askyscraper is a great omen.

SPEAKER_03 (46:09):
No, it's been going on for a little while, but you
know, it's it's terrifying.
I'll get a check out.

SPEAKER_02 (46:16):
I would get a check out.

SPEAKER_03 (46:18):
Yeah.
I've woken up and like grabbedsomething because of the feeling
of falling.
It's it's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (46:25):
Yeah.
I mean, I do that too when Isleep though.
Like I I'll like wake upthinking I've fell and hit the
ground and then like do likethat.
Is that not is that not normal?

SPEAKER_03 (46:34):
Yeah, but are you dreaming that you're falling in
the sky like out of the sky orout off a building?

SPEAKER_01 (46:39):
Yeah, basically.
And then I'll hit the ground thesecond I do I wake up, like
really quick.

SPEAKER_03 (46:44):
I always I always worry because I have had deja vu
several times in my life.
Like several, several times I'vehad deja vu.
And obviously, if you knowanything about deja vu, it's
something you've dreamt aboutpreviously.
Did you know that?
Oh, yeah.
I'm okay.
So I'm worried that I'm gonnathis is just a preview of me, my
future, or how I'm gonna die.

SPEAKER_01 (47:07):
I don't think it's how you're gonna die.
I think it's a reflection of howyou're feeling about your life
in the current moment.
That's my where it needs to go.
Yeah.
I don't think it's how you'regonna die.
It's probably just you feel likeyou're in free fall, which is
probably accurate.

SPEAKER_03 (47:22):
I don't feel that way, though.
That's ironic.
Like I'm I feel pretty grounded.
But again, uh, I could I coulduse a vacation, I could use
some, you know, New Orleans inmy life, I could use some
Halloween fun and yes, andfestivities.
That's honestly what I'm don't.

SPEAKER_01 (47:39):
So, what are you doing for Halloween, Joseph?
I have to know.
And then I want to ask Reed,like, what is your plan for your
costume?
I have an idea for mine, but Iwant to get an idea of like if
it's a good idea or a stupidone, because I'm terrible with
costumes.

SPEAKER_02 (47:52):
This year's gonna be pretty low after the big road
trip, you know, to the Midwestand back.
We're gonna lay low this thisfall.
We are going to New Hope in afew weeks to there's a new like
haunted Hollywood museum andgift shop in little town of New
Hope that's in Pennsylvania,across the bridge from New
Jersey.
Um, we're gonna do a ghost touruh that same night with our

(48:13):
friend Caitlin, whose wedding wewere at in St.
Paul, Minnesota just a few weeksago.
And then we have a tradition ofHalloween.
We watch all the Halloweenmovies that the Michael Myers
from start to finish, all ofthem, including the new trilogy
that was released a few yearsago.
We get pizza and we just handout candy to the
trick-or-treaters.
So very low key Halloween thisyear.

(48:34):
Very chill.

SPEAKER_01 (48:35):
That sounds amazing.
Instead of hanging out with abunch of gays, I gotta say.

SPEAKER_02 (48:38):
Like it's always I don't have an idea for to do
much.
This Halloween's like for us,we're just gonna chill this
year.

SPEAKER_01 (48:45):
I also have to say, like, these Halloween
celebrations have become like aproblem, I think, in the gay
community because they'vecordoned them off.
They've started selling tickets.
You can't get in.
Remember when it was just like ablog party and then we just
could have fun?
Like, what happened to ourfriends?

SPEAKER_02 (49:01):
Or go into a house party, go into a club where
there was no like entrance fee,dress up, do hookup, I mean,
whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (49:08):
But that remembered this happened to our prides too,
right?
They they turned them into thesetrue, like what's it called?
These um the thing where youhave to pay for tickets, and now
it's a music festival.
And it's like the same thing forHalloween here in Dallas.
Actually, I went last yearbecause it actually looked like
a very cute cowboy.
I know there was a lame costume,but I I did look great.
And I was like, I want to go todo this.

(49:30):
I get there and I'm like, I'msorry.
There's an entrance thing.
We have to sit in a huge line,which is just crazy.
When the old days, you justwalked up and down.
Like I've done at both SantaMonica Boulevard and Dallas on
Oak Lawn, and you just walk upand down the street on Cedar
Springs.
It's so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 (49:46):
It makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 (49:47):
And like for some reason, we've decided to invent
it all, and I don't understand.

SPEAKER_02 (49:52):
But that reminds me of watching the movie Hellbent,
is you know, similar to whatyou're explaining, uh, Lane.
I I recommend you can't reallystream it.
You can get it on Amazon forlike$9.99,$10, but it's called
Hellbent, and I highly recommendeveryone watch it.
It's a gay horror movie, by theway.
Slasher movie.

SPEAKER_01 (50:10):
I didn't know there was a gay horror movie.

SPEAKER_02 (50:12):
Yes, and there's another one coming out, man.

SPEAKER_01 (50:15):
No way.

SPEAKER_02 (50:16):
Like uh Queens of the Dead is coming out soon.
It's it's like brand new, hasn'tbeen released yet.

SPEAKER_01 (50:22):
I'm sure Reed will be rushing to watch that one.

SPEAKER_03 (50:24):
Which one?

SPEAKER_01 (50:25):
Queens of the Dead.

SPEAKER_03 (50:26):
No, he's have you heard of it?
No.
He's still confusing two WongFu.
Or oh no, I'm sorry.
Yeah, he's confusing Tu Wong Fubecause he's never seen Tu Wong
Fu.

SPEAKER_02 (50:35):
I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 (50:37):
No, I'm just saying that.
I'm just saying that I justdon't think you'd be watching
Queens of the World.

SPEAKER_02 (50:41):
I'm revoking your gay card for not watching Tu
Wong Fu.
I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_03 (50:46):
I still haven't watched it.
I know, and he won't because itdoesn't last only.
Here's the thing about Blaine.
He has a attention issue.
And he can only watch videoclips on TikTok that last no
longer than like 25 to 30seconds.
And 30 seconds is probablypushing it.

SPEAKER_01 (51:03):
It's not true.
It's so true.

SPEAKER_03 (51:05):
You have to tweak it.

SPEAKER_01 (51:06):
I watch a lot of movies.
I watch a lot of movies, but Iwill say, like when I do watch a
movie, I'm constantly gettingup, pausing, getting up.
It takes me.
Okay, the worst was when I waswatching Game of Thrones.
Because it would probably takeme about three to four hours to
watch one episode because Iwould research everything.
And then I'd get up and I'd haveto have breaks.

(51:27):
So yeah, you're right, Reed.
I'll give you that.

SPEAKER_03 (51:30):
I know.
I know I'm right.

SPEAKER_01 (51:31):
So I will tell you my costume.
Yeah.
I want me and my friends to goas the Blue Origin women.

SPEAKER_02 (51:38):
Which one will you be?

SPEAKER_01 (51:40):
Well probably Gail.
No, I can't be Gail.
I guess I have to be like KatyPerry.

SPEAKER_02 (51:45):
Like with her little flower.

SPEAKER_01 (51:47):
Yeah, with the flower and then the dark hair.
Yeah.
People get a really dark wig.
Yeah.
So my friend, we went to BensonBoone last weekend and he wore
this like bright blue jumpsuit.
And I was like, that looks likethe blue origin outfit.
How did he look to it?

SPEAKER_02 (52:02):
And that jumpsuit.

SPEAKER_01 (52:04):
He looked really good.
I'm sure.
Brian's pretty hot.
So he looked great.
He everybody was taking pictureswith him.
They were just like completelyobsessed.
They were like, oh my God, Ineed pictures with you.
Look just like Benson Boone.
He's got a mustache now and amullet.
And like it just was so BensonBoone.
It was great.
Though Benson Boone is veryshort, I have to say.
He's not 5'9.

(52:24):
I don't care what Wikipedia saysor 5'8.
He's got to be 5'6.

SPEAKER_03 (52:29):
Yeah.
No, because I wasn't invited tothe concert.

SPEAKER_01 (52:32):
Why not?
Because he doesn't show up.

SPEAKER_03 (52:34):
That's not true.
If I was invited to BensonBoone, I would have gone.
But it's a it's a sore subject.

SPEAKER_01 (52:44):
Reed was so mad he followed us to Fort Worth and
passed us on the express lane.

SPEAKER_03 (52:49):
That was actually an accident.
I got stuck in the express lane,but I did pass them in the in
the I did pass them in the inthe shoulder lane.
And then I realized that Imissed my exit.
So the express lane heading fromDallas to Fort Worth, it's just
a one, one lane, and you onlyget a certain amount of exits on
it, right?
And I missed my exit by 20minutes, like, or or what would

(53:13):
seem like 20 minutes.
It basically gave me addedanother 20, 25 minutes to my
drive to get off at the nextexit.
But yeah, I basically drove waytoo far.
And that was And that was that.

SPEAKER_01 (53:24):
I'm just gonna say what actually happened.
I want to explain Dallasgeography to everybody.
Okay.
He lives up here in Little Elm.
I live here down in Dallas,right?
So we're up north.

SPEAKER_03 (53:34):
I what I to stop you, I was going to Capell to
pick up Rufus, my dog.
My dog was in Capell.
So I was going northwest.
DFW Airport, which is west.

SPEAKER_01 (53:45):
Okay.
But then Fort Worth is West.
So there was no reason for himto be here.

SPEAKER_03 (53:54):
Well, at the time of day that you guys left to go to
the concert, it was traffic.
So I just took, as you said,okay, I'll take the express
lane.
So I jumped in the express lanegoing west, and I could easily
get off at DFW airport and gonorth.
Well, I missed the DFW airportexit, which then pushed me out
like eight miles past, you know,which other 20 minutes.

(54:16):
But that's yeah.
Either way, I passed thembecause they were driving slow.
What were you in?
Were you in that boxy-lookingBMW?

SPEAKER_01 (54:24):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (54:25):
It was the ugliest BMW I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01 (54:27):
That's Reynolds.
Don't say anything.
I won't say anything.

SPEAKER_03 (54:30):
But when he watches this episode, sorry, Reynolds.

SPEAKER_01 (54:33):
I get in trouble.
No, somebody will tell him aboutit and then we'll talk about how
shitty Reynolds' car is.
It's not.
It's a brand new X5.

SPEAKER_03 (54:41):
That's not an X5.

SPEAKER_01 (54:42):
X4 or something.
I don't know.
I don't really care.

SPEAKER_03 (54:44):
It looks like the toaster oven of BMWs, but
anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (54:48):
Well, he doesn't pay a thousand dollars a month.
Well, he probably does.

SPEAKER_03 (54:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (54:51):
He's a doctor, so it doesn't matter.
So I'm gonna be a blue origingirl.
I'm gonna get a I think that'llbe a funny outfit.
I think my best one ever was aurologist.
Um and I it was very simplescrubs, but I made up like a
really braunchy name for theurology clinic.
And then I got like so much playon Santa Monica Boulevard.

(55:13):
So that was my favorite one.
Fun that I ever did.
But I usually like get to theend, like get to Halloween and
I'm like, shit, I didn't do anoutfit.
So this year, but like I don'teven know what we're doing this
year.
So I don't think we're gonna goto the block party.
I don't want to go to a blockparty.
Um, like I said, it was just soawful the last couple years
because they were charging.

SPEAKER_04 (55:32):
So they take the function.

SPEAKER_01 (55:34):
What are some of your favorite recipes then?
I think you have one, right?

SPEAKER_02 (55:39):
For me.

SPEAKER_01 (55:40):
Yeah, don't you have like a Halloween thing that you
do as well?

SPEAKER_02 (55:45):
Is it something that I told you about already?

SPEAKER_01 (55:47):
Punch.

SPEAKER_02 (55:48):
Punch.
I think it was.
Was it punch?
Was it the a voodoo juice that Itold you about?

SPEAKER_01 (55:56):
Yeah, voodoo juice.

SPEAKER_02 (55:57):
No, so that's not my recipe, but that is a delicious
drink.

SPEAKER_01 (56:01):
Well, what is it?
I love a cocktail.

SPEAKER_02 (56:03):
What is it?
So if you're in the Frenchquarter, you go down to Lafeet's
blacksmith shop, one of theoldest bars in New Orleans, and
you order this the place thatdoes the absent as well.

SPEAKER_01 (56:14):
Like it's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 (56:15):
I'm sure there's absent, but that's the old
absent house.

unknown (56:19):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (56:19):
That's by Pirates Alley.
That's the one.

SPEAKER_04 (56:23):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (56:23):
That's a good place too.
Great cocktails.
But the voodoo very cool.
Um, you ask for the purpledrink, is what it is now
referred to as a purple drinkwith an A, and you get a big old
cup of voodoo juice.
And it's um, it's lethal.
It takes its time to work itsway through the body, but you
only need like one, and you'regood for the evening.

(56:45):
So I highly recommend uh goingfor the purple drink.
So there's that.

SPEAKER_01 (56:50):
Read we should go to New Orleans and have purple
juice.

SPEAKER_03 (56:53):
What is in purple juice is what I'm gonna ask.
Everything.
So it's like a hunch punch.

SPEAKER_02 (56:59):
It is like grain alcohol, and then pretty much,
and just all the other fixes.
Yeah, but it's and you can getbrain freeze really easily, but
it is like on a hot Louisiananight, it is chef's kiss.
Yeah, magnifique.
But if you're asking about arecipe, I do have a recipe for
fall as well.
Anything alcohol is usually myrecipe, but go ahead.

(57:21):
Your your go-to.
So this is like cozy, warmSaturday morning type recipe.
You take a thing of crescentrolls, right?
And you take a can of pumpkinfilling and some sugar and
cinnamon and chocolate chips,and you mix it with whipped
cream cheese, and then you stuffand re-roll each of the crescent

(57:43):
rolls and bake them, and youhave a cup of coffee or some
tea, and you have a great easy,cozy fall morning breakfast or
dessert.

SPEAKER_01 (57:50):
Yeah, that sounds amazing.

SPEAKER_03 (57:52):
It's like a pumpkin croissant or something.
Pumpkin cheese croissant.
I'm not so I'm not a huge fan ofpumpkin.
Uh I don't do the pumpkin spicething.
It's not my thing.
Right in the heart.
Right in the heart.
I I know, I know.
Pumpkin, yeah, no, I don't dothat.
No.
What's my October go to, though?
There's something in Octoberthat I go to.
I don't I don't know what it is,but it's not pumpkin spice or

(58:14):
anything like that.
I'm not a pumpkin guy.
I'll carve them.
I'll carve pumpkins and I'll doall that stuff, but none of the
pumpkin spice stuff.
Not eating the pumpkin stuff.
Okay.
Okay.
How about this year's Halloweencostume, Mr.
I I I like I said, I think Imight, if I do go out or go
anywhere, I'll probably do likeDeadpool or something like that.

(58:35):
I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (58:36):
Maybe that'll be a pretty sexy read.
Can we post it on our Instagram?

SPEAKER_03 (58:41):
Or I'll just go as like, have you ever seen uh Big
Hero Six?
Nope.
So have you ever seen thoseinflatable costumes?
The ones that like areautomatically inflatable?
Yes.
I I would I would go as like oneof those inflatable costumes.
Nice.
Okay.
That's boring.
I don't know.

(59:01):
I'm sure Blaine's gonna try topick me out a Halloween costume
and I'll just maybe I'll go asClark Clark Kent.
I did watch the new Superman theother day.
How was it?
It was actually good.
It was really good.
Okay.
I don't know the name of theactor that played him, though.

SPEAKER_02 (59:16):
Oh, he was in um he was in Ryan Murphy's Hollywood.
He was in um Pearl as the movieguy.
He's been around a while, thatactor that played him.

SPEAKER_03 (59:28):
Really?
Yeah.
For a long time.
I didn't recognize him.
I mean, I th I I was pleasantlysurprised.
I mean, he's no Henry Caville,but he's gorgeous too.

SPEAKER_04 (59:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (59:40):
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (59:42):
Yeah.
But adult adult Halloweencostumes are expensive, or they
can be.
So.

SPEAKER_03 (59:47):
Yeah.
I So here's the thing.
I'll if I'm gonna do an adult ora an adult, if I'm gonna do a
Halloween costume, it's gonna bea one stop shop.
I'm gonna step into it, zip itup, and that's it.
I'm not

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:00):
You don't want to buy pieces here and there and
no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:03):
I'm not and I'm not really gonna wear a mask.
I'm not really a mask kind ofguy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:09):
I think you should just wear a cheese drink.

unknown (01:00:11):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:12):
You get so much like from that.
Yeah.
It'll work really well, Reed.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:17):
I'll just I'll just go as my in my spider-band
costume.
I got a lot of attention when Iput on my spider-band.
I'm sure you did.
For all the right reasons.
That thing was super tight.
Super tight.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:29):
But I mean, Reed does have a nice ass, just in
case anybody's wondering.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:33):
Nice.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:34):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:34):
Yes.
That's all I work out is mywaist end.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:38):
God bless.
Well, this has been super fun.
Yes.
I'm very excited about Halloweenand fall.
I do love fall.
And maybe I'll have a party thisyear again.
One of my favorite themeparties, which I love to do a
theme party, is um how ifOctober threw a party.
And the idea is you come dressedas your favorite, like

(01:01:02):
stereotypical white girl thatloves fall.
Fall.
Yoga out that and then you servein PSL like cups, like you know,
like Starbucks cups, like theboots, like all these wine out
of the pumpkin, and yeah, allthe fun boots, furry Ud boots
and scarves, like big scarvesthat like wrap around.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:23):
Do they still wear juicy sweatpants?
Is that what is that what theywear to be?
That's not really a thinganymore.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:30):
Reed, that was done in like 2002 after Mean Girls.
It was probably Mean Girls thatwas over.
My God.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:38):
And then had a resurgence in like 2008, and
then like that was it.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:43):
No, it's definitely Ug Boots, yoga outfits, like
that whole thing.
And then, you know, a lot ofDiet Coke and Nutella.
Yeah.
So anyway, I love that themeparty.
It's my favorite to throw.
So maybe I'll do that.
Maybe that's what we'll do forthe pumpkin carving party that
you're not invited to.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:00):
That I that I'm not invited to, not you.
Joseph, you should come down.
You should come down sometime.
I would love to.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:06):
We have fun in Texas.
We do have fun in Texas, I haveto say.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:09):
We're also really not far from New Orleans, only
like six hours.
Blaine doesn't drive anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:15):
So Blaine I only fly to New Orleans from Dallas.
Let's get a 45-minute flight.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:20):
Yeah, if Blaine could fly and to drive an hour,
you know what I mean?
To skip driving an hour, hewould do it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:26):
If the opportunity I went to Fredericksburg and
literally it was like a four anda half hour drive in Texas, and
I literally was like, I wasbuilt for private jet life.
I mean, unfortunately, I don'thave a rich family, so this has
not happened for me.
Um, but I was made for itbecause to me that was like the

(01:02:47):
most painful thing I've ever hadto do.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:49):
Was drive four and a half hours or ride four and a
half hours.
He didn't drive.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:54):
Oh, I didn't drive.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:55):
No.
You just hopped in, you hoppedin.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:59):
Yeah, and I just sat there the whole time.
But then I was just like bored.
I will say I did I did do a roadtrip, by the way, from LA to
Dallas when I moved here.
And I had a lot of fun withthat.
I had a friend of mine, but youknow, to your point about like
long days, we had a couple longdays of driving where we were
hauling, but like for the mostpart, we would stop like every

(01:03:20):
four hours.
Like we stopped in Scottsdale,talk about like, or not
Scottsdale's a Sedona, talkabout some interesting stories
there.
I had a lot of spiritualmoments.
That's a whole different topic.
But um, and then like we stoppedat like all these national parks
along the way, like White StandSands National Park, which is in
New Mexico, which I just likenever heard of.
I went to Carlsby Caverns, whichI hadn't been to since I was

(01:03:43):
like a young kid.
It was just very like cool.
And we went to all like, what isit, Winslow, Arizona?
We went to Winslow, Arizona.
Like you've heard it in the songa thousand times.
And we're like, we're gonna stopat Winslow, Arizona.
We stopped at the giantpistachio in Nevada, went to
Roswell, which was totally lame.
Don't ever go to Roswell, notworth it.
Sucks.

(01:04:03):
Really?

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:04):
So I did have all the Fort Americana stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:07):
It just was, you know, is it it actually was
super cheesy.
There were other towns around itthat were cooler.
I think Roswell just is not coolanymore.
I think it maybe was back in theday.
But anyway, that was fun.
But I mean, we had to break itup because girl, I can't, I
can't be all cooped up oneperson alone.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:25):
You need, I mean, it was fun learning about the
different cities in which westayed, but you need to take
breaks and eat a little bithealthier if you can, hydrate a
lot because you get dry reallyquickly.
Um, and and just and just enjoythe travel, you know, not just
getting to your destination,enjoy the travel is what I
recommend anyone.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:44):
Well, yeah, especially when you're driving
anywhere west or north of here,not north mostly, but like west
of here.
Everything is it's so dry, sodry out there at the climate.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:55):
So dry.
I mean, like everyone wassaying, even St.
Paul and Minnesota was very dry.
And I've been to some dryplaces, like you know, Colorado,
like is yeah.
Let's talk about dry, you gottahydrate, you gotta like infuse
yourself with you know, likewater, electrolytes, all nine
yards.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:15):
Yeah.
Colorado's dry, Utah's dry.
Very dry.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, we gotta get youdown here.
We gotta do a road trip upthere.
Maybe I can convince you.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:23):
I would love to, especially if this thing goes
through hopefully with awhoever, and then I'll
definitely fly New Orleans.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:32):
We're not doing a road trip with you, Reed.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:34):
I will fly to you guys and then I'll fly to New
Orleans and I'll fly home.
I'm not getting in the caranytime soon.
The next two years.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:40):
I'm gonna see if I can convince Ryan to come with
me on a well, I mean, no, Ryanwon't.
Ryan doesn't separate from hisuh fiance.
That's true.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:48):
But if Ryan does go, he used to do copycase with us.
If he does go, I would go withyou.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:54):
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
I would make it the quickestdrive to New York or New Jersey.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:00):
No, see, that would be actually not fun.
I would want to stop at a bunchof places.
Like we could stop at Savannah,we could stop in the Carolinas.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:06):
Savannah is not on the route to New Jersey.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:10):
That is Reed, you don't know.
You haven't mapped it out, haveyou?

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:13):
Yes, I have.
Savannah is straight west,southwest, technically.
Definitely map it out.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:19):
Definitely map it out if you have a chance.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:21):
I've made the cross-country road trip a few
times.
The only thing is I haven't donethe west side yet.
I've only done the east andnorth and central.
But yes, I'll convince him andwe'll get out there, I promise.
Have your people call my people.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:34):
Will too.
Well, thank you, Joseph, forsharing all your spooky stories
with people.
Of course, thanks for having me.
And I have to say, I just wantto show you, I do have all my
crystals here that I recentlycharged in the full moon.
I don't know if it's worked, butI did do that.
It's been a while.
So we're hoping for really goodenergy over here.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:57):
Always.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:57):
And like I said, I have tons of my candles burning
and all of these things.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:02):
It's kind of overkill.
I think it might be, yeah.
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it when westaff.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:08):
But if anybody has any kind of spooky story, I
would love to hear it in thecomments too, because that would
be super fascinating.
I would love to hear what peoplehave heard and seen in
particular.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:19):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:23):
Yeah.
So thank you, Joseph, for thetime today.
This was super fun.
I'm glad we gotta have like achill so much.
Yeah, fun night talking aboutspooky season and all this kind
of fun stuff and like why thegays are obsessed with it.
So 100%.
Very excited.
So thanks for joining ustonight.
Um, yeah.
Thanks so much.
So cheers.

(01:07:44):
Have a good night, everybody.
Good night, everybody.

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