September 9, 2024 • 24 mins
On May 4, 2007, a local llama farmer from Delaware, OH, wasn't on the farm helping her workers do their daily duties. This was unlike Eveline Ashbaugh, who normally was the first one out barking orders to those who worked for her. Her right-hand farmhand thought it was strange for her not to be there, so he went to the house to see if she was okay. What he walked into was a horrendous scene. Sometime during the night, someone entered her home, either by walking through the front door because they were let in or they climbed up a long wooden ladder to cut the screen on an upstairs window, then attacked Eveline with a sharp object. It was a violent scene with evidence of a serious struggle between Eveline and her assailant. To this day no person of interest has been named. Hundreds of people were interviewed with no lead to her murder, Someone knows something, and one day the secrets of the farm will be uncovered.
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Welcome to Cold Case MHS, Monsters and Demons. We're Real Education, Metro Life. I'm your
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co-host, Lydia Lisco, and we thank you for listening.
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Make downs in memory, let's find the enemy. We won't leave it behind, behind every shadow.
A story to be told. Whom lies I was special, but some hearts have grown cold.
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And the depths of the darkness, stuff the good room remains behind every cold case.
There's people fighting day to day.
Welcome back to Cold Case MHS. We appreciate you joining us for this episode. In many of our episodes,
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we talk about the lifestyle of our victims and sometimes they fall into very high-risk lifestyles.
In this particular case, the lifestyle didn't seem to be a high-risk situation,
but yet it ended in tragedy. I'm going to allow the students to introduce themselves and tell us
a little bit about their case. So I'm Emma, I'm Katie, I'm Maddie, and so we're looking at the
case day of Evelyn Ashbrough. And so she was a farmer from Delaware, Ohio, and she, what she
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farmed was llamas. And she was found dead in her upstairs bedroom on May 5th, 2007. Yeah, so you say
she was a llama farmer. Why do you think that could have put her in an unusual situation?
So one thing we do know about Evelyn is that she wasn't particularly good with her finances. She
had a history of multiple foreclosures even before she started this llama adventure.
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And so, but we also know she had investors within the farm and she had over 50 llamas,
obviously that's going to get extremely expensive. And she also had workers on the farm and there
are some issues with possibly pay and things like that. So we often talk about victimology and
Evelyn's financial troubles plays into that. Tell me a little bit more about her background,
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who was she, what got her into this situation? Evelyn was perceived as a very moody individual,
not a lot of people around her saw her as a very happy person. Another thing, there's speculations
about Evelyn in her town that she was lesbian or bisexual that could have caused a strain
for her like reputation and there was rumors that she did have many close girlfriends that she
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kept in contact with. But another thing about her is that she was never married and she didn't have
any children and her relationships did seem to bounce around often. So when we were in forensics
class we talked about motives, why people do some of the things they do. In this particular case,
what are some possible motives that somebody would want to kill Evelyn? Obviously it's not
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really clear, she was an older woman. She obviously you can tell may have gotten on a few people's
bad side but that doesn't necessarily mean like you have to kill somebody. And so our biggest
motive we looked at is people working on the farm. Like I said earlier, people weren't getting paid
and there are issues with that. And so with that not getting paid and also her romantic
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relationships could have been a possible cause for killing her. So I know we talked a bit about
her romantic relationships. Did you guys find anything familial and like her parents, any siblings,
anything like that? She had um she has three, not three sisters, she has two sisters, she's the third
one. Her older sister died in about 2001 that fish area. But then her younger sister Charlene,
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she was somebody we were keeping in contact with but her parents, both of them also died before
we got into the case and her family overall just wasn't really susceptible to answer our questions
which is understandable. They're grieving. So the connection that we had with Charlene,
is that the youngest one? Yeah. We did have a couple of I guess interactions with her
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and just talk a little bit about those interactions. What was unusual, what was kind of strange about
those? So the first interaction we had with her, we reached out to her just like explaining what
we were doing and trying to get her case back out there. And originally she did not want to talk
to us. She told us that like the police did not want her contacting us and then we kind of just
hit a dead end for like a little bit. And then we reached back out to her not just trying to get
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information but trying to like figure out like what Evelyn's favorite song was or like get pictures
of her for our presentation. And she told us that she had just had surgery on her eyes so then she
would get back to us like at a later date but then we never ended up hearing back from her. So one of
the weird things about that is that I got a phone call from her husband that wanted to know what we
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were doing and why we were doing it and things like that. And at first it sounded kind of promising
that he was going to call us back or she was going to call us back. And then things kind of fell
through a little bit and I think maybe part of it was she wasn't sure we were legit. She wasn't sure
if we were going to just do a project or you know were we really trying to help. So as we were looking
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into this tell us a little bit about the roadblocks you ran into and then how things kind of changed
all of a sudden for you. I would say especially like during the beginning it was just a problem
like finding people to talk about her. Like again like Evelyn herself was on the older side and
therefore most of the people she interacted with and or family members were also older as well.
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She also like Maddie said didn't have any kids or had like a husband or even a wife or anything
like that and so there weren't a lot of people to contact. I mean like I think this like really
exemplifies like our major roadblock. We were looking into like where the llamas went like after
the farm and things like that and when I finally found the woman who I believe the llamas were
going to go to I found out she had passed away two days prior to me figuring out who she was.
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That was an extreme problem and also we reached out to a ton of other family members but they were
distant family members and they maybe maybe like didn't even receive like our emails or anything
like that and so that was a lot of our roadblocks but I didn't know until like two weeks I just
think before we did our presentation was when we got like our first major break and that came from
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like an online social media platform called Reddit. The only reason why we found that was because we
originally like texted somebody or found somebody on Reddit that just like kind of had a mother-in-law
that lived in the area like when was basically neighbors to where Evelyn lived and so we reached
out to her back in October and we were just checking if she responded and then I just looked
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up Evelyn's case to get on Reddit and I found that which was like 23 days ago and it was really recent so.
So 20 days before the presentation we found another post on Reddit and we'd already found one before
that talked about like a car in a ditch and I had the murder and we tried to reach out to that person
but they never got back to us which is okay but then this other Reddit post detailing Evelyn's case
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was making some really strong accusations on who they believed did it and also and they know of
like possibly romantic possible romantic partnerships and so we decided to kind of look more into that
and that was like our big lead we had in our case. So you mentioned all of these outside sources did
you guys have any luck with the police anything involved in Evelyn's case? We talked a lot with
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Captain Savage from the Delaware County Police Department and he was really helpful we had
two phone calls with him and he was just really helpful like we sprung our ideas off of him obviously
you couldn't give us exact information but he was really helpful and he was really supportive of what
we were doing so that was a really good person to be in contact with. Were you guys able to talk
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to him about the information you found on the Reddit post? We found that Reddit post and then
we talked to him about it and he asked us to pass that along to him because they had not yet seen
that since it was posted so recently and they don't really have like a ton of time to go back on
these older cases and find the new information so the fact that we found that he said was very
helpful to him so that was really cool that we got to help him out in that way. So we talked a lot
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about your guys's process we talked a little bit about Evelyn's past why don't we focus on some more
maybe of the details of the case so why don't you tell me a little bit about events that were
happening before the case or before the day um she was murdered tell me a little bit more about
the day she was murdered and then tell me some stuff after. It's kind of unclear what happened
to Evelyn before the murder happened we found one source on like a random website saying like she
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was last heard from like by phone at like 11 p.m. at night but that was never confirmed with anything
else anybody else said and so we do know that she was having money troubles if you look at photos of
her house you could see it wasn't kept in best conditions we looked around to see if possibly
like neighbors were upset about some of the things happening at the house like the lawn wasn't kept
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really well and obviously 50 llamas is a cause for concern and so we never found it really anything
with the neighbors or um things like that but the night of the murder the person who found her
actually the next morning was a farmhand named Rick Paddingale and Rick Paddingale worked on the farm
he was out tending to the llamas and giving them water food and stuff like that and then he made
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note like Evelyn was always out to help them and she wasn't outside that day to help them and so he
looked back at the house to go find her and that's when he found her dead in her bedroom and some
weird things that that are within this case is that there was a wooden ladder that was propped up to
the side of her house um on the second floor because that's where she was sleeping and the window
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was slashed open her room was also ransacked but no other parts of the house seemed to have any signs
of fourth entry or and she admittedly kept the house um on the inside in some not so great
conditions but it didn't look as ransacked as her room did so some of the causes that I mean like
why do you ransack a room um again with the money troubles and things happening on the farm perhaps
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they're looking for money things like that and the way she was murdered was extremely gruesome
she was stabbed up to 10 times maybe even more in the lower neck upper chest area it perforated
many layers of tissue and there's also like multiple different theories that we come up with
on possibly how exactly she was stabbed we know that she was sleeping in her bed so I've been
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stabbed in the back it could have been the front she has some wounds on her fingers it looked like
she possibly held her hands up in defense but we're not sure we are sure though as um Savage was
able to tell us that she wasn't necessarily found in her bed or even in her bedroom but we weren't
able to actually receive the details of exactly where she was so you guys were able to be in contact
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with captain savage but you couldn't get any autopsy reports anything from the crime scene we actually
did receive the autopsy report it was just like a um digital copy and we also got a printout copy
of her death certificate it was from the delroy county coroner's office so we received both of
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those so that's how we figured out like where exactly she was stabbed at and then like on the
death certificate it didn't give an exact like time of death it was kind of like a range of time I
think it was between oh it was one in the morning tonight nine yeah it was extremely yeah it was um
a very wide range and also um whoever did this to her had to have known that she was sleeping in
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the upstairs bedroom and not in the actual master bedroom because the master bedroom was on the first
floor and her she was sleeping on the second floor which is where the ladder was propped up so whoever
did this to her we came to the conclusion that like they knew her personally they knew kind of her
routine like where she was in the house so it was very it was a very personal crime so well one
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profile that the suspect what what was their motive and why would they stab her the way they did
though this is like what we would call a crime of passion you know obviously she was stabbed
multiple times and it wasn't just like stabbed her like trying to kill her they were trying to like
defame her and like almost mutilate her body and her face and like of course like even doing the
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stabbing so close to her neck and her face is another like cause of concern so is this why you
guys maybe believe it the crime could be less financial and more romantic as Maddie said earlier
both because in the reddit post that we did find I think it said that the lady worked with her and
that they're in a love triangle so I do think it's both so the connection you had between the reddit
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thing also had a weird connection with where she liked to go yeah so she went to this Mexican
restaurant it was called Talia's and it was like what like 35 40 minutes away from where she actually
lived which was like really weird because and we figured this out because on her obituary like
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someone that worked at the diner like commented and said that they always knew she was dining based
on her like enchilada order we found out that the name that was mentioned in the reddit post
that was like posted like 20 days before our presentation the name that was mentioned lived
in the city that this Mexican restaurant was at we believe she wasn't just going there for Mexican
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food and then it kind of like puts the two points together like why she would travel that far not
just for food but also for a romantic relationship tell us a little bit about the background of that
person when you found out where they lived what else did you find out about them um we found out that
after the crime was committed they fell into a lot of drug issues and money troubles and it was
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just kind of a mess so it definitely makes sense why or that this person did it based on what happened
after the fact but i mean we don't know for sure obviously the case is cold but we kind of connected
all those dots together and it was really helpful because kind of all year long we just hit a dead
end there wasn't really anybody that we could contact since she was older most of her family
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had passed away or they didn't want to contact us so like finding this at the end of like our long
road and like research it was really they felt really rewarding to know that we made some impact on
her case i just want to touch a little bit more on the person we're talking about so when you look
at their arrest history like not only do they have multiple arrests in Grove City which is where
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this Mexican restaurant was but they also have charges before um evalans murder and they're
like domestic violence charges drug charges and then five months after there after her murder
happened that's when they end up getting a um drug possession charge and so it being that close
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maybe suggests you know possible usage after and i was gonna ask do you know if this person
got anything from evalans financial situation i know you said there's financial troubles but
do you guys know where evalans money went i know you said the llamas went to the person you found
who died two days before you found out who they were but do you know anything about where her
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the farm who was left to and if that kind of stuff yeah so basically um her sister charlene
got all at least got the house i don't know she got all of her assets but she did get the house
and she they kind of like let the house sit for a few years windows were boarded up i'm sure it was
probably in some bad condition i don't think they really had a purpose for it yet but then 2015 it
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ends up going to evalans nephew and then it would appear that he fixed up the house and sold it and
now somebody who's not related currently gives us examples of how you found that information
because a lot of people don't understand they can find those kind of things so how did you find
that information about daniel deeds and transfer of property yeah so um correct me if i'm wrong i think
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it's on the auditor's website online um so once you find someone's address which is extremely easy
to find someone's address online so once you get the address you can just basically do an address
search onto the auditor's website and it'll show you property history and so you can see like how
many bedrooms it has square footage but um sometimes they have photos of the house that's where we found
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a photo like the windows boarded up and we could assume what was happening with it um if it ever
went to foreclosure how much money was paid on it so like daniel deed like got the house for free
like charlene denseltown which their family which makes somewhat sense and so you can see everything
like that and then you can also see like transfer history and you know there's there's ways to find
information um and that's what kind of we're trying to teach you guys is that keep looking there's
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something out there and so a little bit about the ladder and things like that we talked to chat jones
who is a former detective who came in and talked to us what did he say a little bit about the case
what did he think about the window and the ladder and the ransacking he was convinced that the ladder
in the slash um screen on her window was all staged however whenever we talked to captain
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savage he told us that there were no other signs of force entry we originally thought it was stage
two we brought that to captain savage um savage's attention but he kind of like steered us away so
i think it's still a little unclear for us if that was staged or not but chat jones was definitely
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convinced that it was set up permissively that way a possibility could be i mean if evalyn knew
her killer she could have let them in yeah and that's why there wouldn't be a sign of fourth century
especially if you're saying it's the person who she was romantically involved with so that could
be a possibility as to why chat jones may think it's staged because the person may not have needed
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to force their way in and the ransacking is a way to stage as if they were trying to find money
or something like that when actually they're just throwing it around it to make it look like something
else yeah and if i like can add on that for like the possible like not stage theory in the photos
the screen like up to the window it's slash but it's also torn at the top and so if they're
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making it stage i don't necessarily know how they would have torn it and so it could be that like
maybe when they went inside with the slashing it tore a little bit more but again we don't really know
yeah well and there's the reason why cases go cold we don't know a lot of those things right there
um and i think another reason it might have gone cold here is just like some inner city cases and
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things like that that some people just don't want to talk you know they live in a small town
they may know something but yet they don't want to talk because uh one she wasn't necessarily
seeing somebody everybody really liked uh which is a shame but also the fact that if they could
do that to her they could do that to them so that's kind of what could happen there the other thing
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i was going to tell you that i didn't tell you earlier um is about your information that you
sent to detective savage um detective savage actually is retiring which um i applaud him for
all his years for what he has done but he is retiring but he has turned the case over to the new
detective that's coming in and they have taken your information and they're now reevaluating the case
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and they're trying to see one if they've already talked to that person or they have it so um that's
one of the things he said to me is that he's interested to see if that person was already on
the list um because that'll tell him that maybe they're on the right track so well in the reddit
post it did say that the person like whoever posted this said that the person that they think it is
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failed a light a light detector test like multiple times but i don't i think we talked to captain
savage about that he didn't know anything about that so yeah well our whole goal with these cases
is to get the victim's names back out there to bring attention back on them and hopefully with
this new information that you guys brought to the police evening can maybe finally have some justice
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and i just want to know how do you guys how do you guys feel from this experience what lessons
are you gonna take with you going into the future i think it's a lot of perseverance and so like
obviously like you hit roblox a lot but it's making sure you just continue working and going through
them and it's like like when you just tell that information that like the case is getting like
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reopened and looked at again like that's fulfilling well i want to say i appreciate the work that you
did because there was a period of time where things got really no pun intended cold um because
you jumped into it right away found all kinds of information and things just kind of went um
when arrived for a while there you can get information but you did do some really good work
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of kind of thinking outside the box not a big fan of that term but um i get it thinking creatively
yeah thinking creatively you thought different ways of finding some some information and it may be
that information you found at the end is going to turn this thing around so i want to say thank you
for the work that you've done really appreciate it i want to congratulate you on your senior year
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and good luck in the future and we thank you for this who should they contact if anybody knows any
information about this case yeah um you can contact the Delaware county police department i don't know
the phone number off my head but it's just a really quick google search and then they also have an
email then you can also contact contact call case and i'll let you guys explain how to do that um
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Welcome to Cold Case MHS, Monsters and Demons. We're Real Education, Metro Life. I'm your
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co-host, Lydia Lisco, and we thank you for listening.
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Make downs in memory, let's find the enemy. We won't leave it behind, behind every shadow.
A story to be told. Whom lies I was special, but some hearts have grown cold.
(01:02):
And the depths of the darkness, stuff the good room remains behind every cold case.
There's people fighting day to day.
Welcome back to Cold Case MHS. We appreciate you joining us for this episode. In many of our episodes,
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we talk about the lifestyle of our victims and sometimes they fall into very high-risk lifestyles.
In this particular case, the lifestyle didn't seem to be a high-risk situation,
but yet it ended in tragedy. I'm going to allow the students to introduce themselves and tell us
a little bit about their case. So I'm Emma, I'm Katie, I'm Maddie, and so we're looking at the
case day of Evelyn Ashbrough. And so she was a farmer from Delaware, Ohio, and she, what she
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farmed was llamas. And she was found dead in her upstairs bedroom on May 5th, 2007. Yeah, so you say
she was a llama farmer. Why do you think that could have put her in an unusual situation?
So one thing we do know about Evelyn is that she wasn't particularly good with her finances. She
had a history of multiple foreclosures even before she started this llama adventure.
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And so, but we also know she had investors within the farm and she had over 50 llamas,
obviously that's going to get extremely expensive. And she also had workers on the farm and there
are some issues with possibly pay and things like that. So we often talk about victimology and
Evelyn's financial troubles plays into that. Tell me a little bit more about her background,
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who was she, what got her into this situation? Evelyn was perceived as a very moody individual,
not a lot of people around her saw her as a very happy person. Another thing, there's speculations
about Evelyn in her town that she was lesbian or bisexual that could have caused a strain
for her like reputation and there was rumors that she did have many close girlfriends that she
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kept in contact with. But another thing about her is that she was never married and she didn't have
any children and her relationships did seem to bounce around often. So when we were in forensics
class we talked about motives, why people do some of the things they do. In this particular case,
what are some possible motives that somebody would want to kill Evelyn? Obviously it's not
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really clear, she was an older woman. She obviously you can tell may have gotten on a few people's
bad side but that doesn't necessarily mean like you have to kill somebody. And so our biggest
motive we looked at is people working on the farm. Like I said earlier, people weren't getting paid
and there are issues with that. And so with that not getting paid and also her romantic
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relationships could have been a possible cause for killing her. So I know we talked a bit about
her romantic relationships. Did you guys find anything familial and like her parents, any siblings,
anything like that? She had um she has three, not three sisters, she has two sisters, she's the third
one. Her older sister died in about 2001 that fish area. But then her younger sister Charlene,
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she was somebody we were keeping in contact with but her parents, both of them also died before
we got into the case and her family overall just wasn't really susceptible to answer our questions
which is understandable. They're grieving. So the connection that we had with Charlene,
is that the youngest one? Yeah. We did have a couple of I guess interactions with her
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and just talk a little bit about those interactions. What was unusual, what was kind of strange about
those? So the first interaction we had with her, we reached out to her just like explaining what
we were doing and trying to get her case back out there. And originally she did not want to talk
to us. She told us that like the police did not want her contacting us and then we kind of just
hit a dead end for like a little bit. And then we reached back out to her not just trying to get
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information but trying to like figure out like what Evelyn's favorite song was or like get pictures
of her for our presentation. And she told us that she had just had surgery on her eyes so then she
would get back to us like at a later date but then we never ended up hearing back from her. So one of
the weird things about that is that I got a phone call from her husband that wanted to know what we
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were doing and why we were doing it and things like that. And at first it sounded kind of promising
that he was going to call us back or she was going to call us back. And then things kind of fell
through a little bit and I think maybe part of it was she wasn't sure we were legit. She wasn't sure
if we were going to just do a project or you know were we really trying to help. So as we were looking
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into this tell us a little bit about the roadblocks you ran into and then how things kind of changed
all of a sudden for you. I would say especially like during the beginning it was just a problem
like finding people to talk about her. Like again like Evelyn herself was on the older side and
therefore most of the people she interacted with and or family members were also older as well.
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She also like Maddie said didn't have any kids or had like a husband or even a wife or anything
like that and so there weren't a lot of people to contact. I mean like I think this like really
exemplifies like our major roadblock. We were looking into like where the llamas went like after
the farm and things like that and when I finally found the woman who I believe the llamas were
going to go to I found out she had passed away two days prior to me figuring out who she was.
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That was an extreme problem and also we reached out to a ton of other family members but they were
distant family members and they maybe maybe like didn't even receive like our emails or anything
like that and so that was a lot of our roadblocks but I didn't know until like two weeks I just
think before we did our presentation was when we got like our first major break and that came from
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like an online social media platform called Reddit. The only reason why we found that was because we
originally like texted somebody or found somebody on Reddit that just like kind of had a mother-in-law
that lived in the area like when was basically neighbors to where Evelyn lived and so we reached
out to her back in October and we were just checking if she responded and then I just looked
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up Evelyn's case to get on Reddit and I found that which was like 23 days ago and it was really recent so.
So 20 days before the presentation we found another post on Reddit and we'd already found one before
that talked about like a car in a ditch and I had the murder and we tried to reach out to that person
but they never got back to us which is okay but then this other Reddit post detailing Evelyn's case
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was making some really strong accusations on who they believed did it and also and they know of
like possibly romantic possible romantic partnerships and so we decided to kind of look more into that
and that was like our big lead we had in our case. So you mentioned all of these outside sources did
you guys have any luck with the police anything involved in Evelyn's case? We talked a lot with
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Captain Savage from the Delaware County Police Department and he was really helpful we had
two phone calls with him and he was just really helpful like we sprung our ideas off of him obviously
you couldn't give us exact information but he was really helpful and he was really supportive of what
we were doing so that was a really good person to be in contact with. Were you guys able to talk
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to him about the information you found on the Reddit post? We found that Reddit post and then
we talked to him about it and he asked us to pass that along to him because they had not yet seen
that since it was posted so recently and they don't really have like a ton of time to go back on
these older cases and find the new information so the fact that we found that he said was very
helpful to him so that was really cool that we got to help him out in that way. So we talked a lot
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about your guys's process we talked a little bit about Evelyn's past why don't we focus on some more
maybe of the details of the case so why don't you tell me a little bit about events that were
happening before the case or before the day um she was murdered tell me a little bit more about
the day she was murdered and then tell me some stuff after. It's kind of unclear what happened
to Evelyn before the murder happened we found one source on like a random website saying like she
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was last heard from like by phone at like 11 p.m. at night but that was never confirmed with anything
else anybody else said and so we do know that she was having money troubles if you look at photos of
her house you could see it wasn't kept in best conditions we looked around to see if possibly
like neighbors were upset about some of the things happening at the house like the lawn wasn't kept
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really well and obviously 50 llamas is a cause for concern and so we never found it really anything
with the neighbors or um things like that but the night of the murder the person who found her
actually the next morning was a farmhand named Rick Paddingale and Rick Paddingale worked on the farm
he was out tending to the llamas and giving them water food and stuff like that and then he made
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note like Evelyn was always out to help them and she wasn't outside that day to help them and so he
looked back at the house to go find her and that's when he found her dead in her bedroom and some
weird things that that are within this case is that there was a wooden ladder that was propped up to
the side of her house um on the second floor because that's where she was sleeping and the window
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was slashed open her room was also ransacked but no other parts of the house seemed to have any signs
of fourth entry or and she admittedly kept the house um on the inside in some not so great
conditions but it didn't look as ransacked as her room did so some of the causes that I mean like
why do you ransack a room um again with the money troubles and things happening on the farm perhaps
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they're looking for money things like that and the way she was murdered was extremely gruesome
she was stabbed up to 10 times maybe even more in the lower neck upper chest area it perforated
many layers of tissue and there's also like multiple different theories that we come up with
on possibly how exactly she was stabbed we know that she was sleeping in her bed so I've been
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stabbed in the back it could have been the front she has some wounds on her fingers it looked like
she possibly held her hands up in defense but we're not sure we are sure though as um Savage was
able to tell us that she wasn't necessarily found in her bed or even in her bedroom but we weren't
able to actually receive the details of exactly where she was so you guys were able to be in contact
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with captain savage but you couldn't get any autopsy reports anything from the crime scene we actually
did receive the autopsy report it was just like a um digital copy and we also got a printout copy
of her death certificate it was from the delroy county coroner's office so we received both of
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those so that's how we figured out like where exactly she was stabbed at and then like on the
death certificate it didn't give an exact like time of death it was kind of like a range of time I
think it was between oh it was one in the morning tonight nine yeah it was extremely yeah it was um
a very wide range and also um whoever did this to her had to have known that she was sleeping in
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the upstairs bedroom and not in the actual master bedroom because the master bedroom was on the first
floor and her she was sleeping on the second floor which is where the ladder was propped up so whoever
did this to her we came to the conclusion that like they knew her personally they knew kind of her
routine like where she was in the house so it was very it was a very personal crime so well one
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profile that the suspect what what was their motive and why would they stab her the way they did
though this is like what we would call a crime of passion you know obviously she was stabbed
multiple times and it wasn't just like stabbed her like trying to kill her they were trying to like
defame her and like almost mutilate her body and her face and like of course like even doing the
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stabbing so close to her neck and her face is another like cause of concern so is this why you
guys maybe believe it the crime could be less financial and more romantic as Maddie said earlier
both because in the reddit post that we did find I think it said that the lady worked with her and
that they're in a love triangle so I do think it's both so the connection you had between the reddit
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thing also had a weird connection with where she liked to go yeah so she went to this Mexican
restaurant it was called Talia's and it was like what like 35 40 minutes away from where she actually
lived which was like really weird because and we figured this out because on her obituary like
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someone that worked at the diner like commented and said that they always knew she was dining based
on her like enchilada order we found out that the name that was mentioned in the reddit post
that was like posted like 20 days before our presentation the name that was mentioned lived
in the city that this Mexican restaurant was at we believe she wasn't just going there for Mexican
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food and then it kind of like puts the two points together like why she would travel that far not
just for food but also for a romantic relationship tell us a little bit about the background of that
person when you found out where they lived what else did you find out about them um we found out that
after the crime was committed they fell into a lot of drug issues and money troubles and it was
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just kind of a mess so it definitely makes sense why or that this person did it based on what happened
after the fact but i mean we don't know for sure obviously the case is cold but we kind of connected
all those dots together and it was really helpful because kind of all year long we just hit a dead
end there wasn't really anybody that we could contact since she was older most of her family
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had passed away or they didn't want to contact us so like finding this at the end of like our long
road and like research it was really they felt really rewarding to know that we made some impact on
her case i just want to touch a little bit more on the person we're talking about so when you look
at their arrest history like not only do they have multiple arrests in Grove City which is where
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this Mexican restaurant was but they also have charges before um evalans murder and they're
like domestic violence charges drug charges and then five months after there after her murder
happened that's when they end up getting a um drug possession charge and so it being that close
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maybe suggests you know possible usage after and i was gonna ask do you know if this person
got anything from evalans financial situation i know you said there's financial troubles but
do you guys know where evalans money went i know you said the llamas went to the person you found
who died two days before you found out who they were but do you know anything about where her
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the farm who was left to and if that kind of stuff yeah so basically um her sister charlene
got all at least got the house i don't know she got all of her assets but she did get the house
and she they kind of like let the house sit for a few years windows were boarded up i'm sure it was
probably in some bad condition i don't think they really had a purpose for it yet but then 2015 it
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ends up going to evalans nephew and then it would appear that he fixed up the house and sold it and
now somebody who's not related currently gives us examples of how you found that information
because a lot of people don't understand they can find those kind of things so how did you find
that information about daniel deeds and transfer of property yeah so um correct me if i'm wrong i think
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it's on the auditor's website online um so once you find someone's address which is extremely easy
to find someone's address online so once you get the address you can just basically do an address
search onto the auditor's website and it'll show you property history and so you can see like how
many bedrooms it has square footage but um sometimes they have photos of the house that's where we found
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a photo like the windows boarded up and we could assume what was happening with it um if it ever
went to foreclosure how much money was paid on it so like daniel deed like got the house for free
like charlene denseltown which their family which makes somewhat sense and so you can see everything
like that and then you can also see like transfer history and you know there's there's ways to find
information um and that's what kind of we're trying to teach you guys is that keep looking there's
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something out there and so a little bit about the ladder and things like that we talked to chat jones
who is a former detective who came in and talked to us what did he say a little bit about the case
what did he think about the window and the ladder and the ransacking he was convinced that the ladder
in the slash um screen on her window was all staged however whenever we talked to captain
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savage he told us that there were no other signs of force entry we originally thought it was stage
two we brought that to captain savage um savage's attention but he kind of like steered us away so
i think it's still a little unclear for us if that was staged or not but chat jones was definitely
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convinced that it was set up permissively that way a possibility could be i mean if evalyn knew
her killer she could have let them in yeah and that's why there wouldn't be a sign of fourth century
especially if you're saying it's the person who she was romantically involved with so that could
be a possibility as to why chat jones may think it's staged because the person may not have needed
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to force their way in and the ransacking is a way to stage as if they were trying to find money
or something like that when actually they're just throwing it around it to make it look like something
else yeah and if i like can add on that for like the possible like not stage theory in the photos
the screen like up to the window it's slash but it's also torn at the top and so if they're
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making it stage i don't necessarily know how they would have torn it and so it could be that like
maybe when they went inside with the slashing it tore a little bit more but again we don't really know
yeah well and there's the reason why cases go cold we don't know a lot of those things right there
um and i think another reason it might have gone cold here is just like some inner city cases and
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things like that that some people just don't want to talk you know they live in a small town
they may know something but yet they don't want to talk because uh one she wasn't necessarily
seeing somebody everybody really liked uh which is a shame but also the fact that if they could
do that to her they could do that to them so that's kind of what could happen there the other thing
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i was going to tell you that i didn't tell you earlier um is about your information that you
sent to detective savage um detective savage actually is retiring which um i applaud him for
all his years for what he has done but he is retiring but he has turned the case over to the new
detective that's coming in and they have taken your information and they're now reevaluating the case
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and they're trying to see one if they've already talked to that person or they have it so um that's
one of the things he said to me is that he's interested to see if that person was already on
the list um because that'll tell him that maybe they're on the right track so well in the reddit
post it did say that the person like whoever posted this said that the person that they think it is
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failed a light a light detector test like multiple times but i don't i think we talked to captain
savage about that he didn't know anything about that so yeah well our whole goal with these cases
is to get the victim's names back out there to bring attention back on them and hopefully with
this new information that you guys brought to the police evening can maybe finally have some justice
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and i just want to know how do you guys how do you guys feel from this experience what lessons
are you gonna take with you going into the future i think it's a lot of perseverance and so like
obviously like you hit roblox a lot but it's making sure you just continue working and going through
them and it's like like when you just tell that information that like the case is getting like
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reopened and looked at again like that's fulfilling well i want to say i appreciate the work that you
did because there was a period of time where things got really no pun intended cold um because
you jumped into it right away found all kinds of information and things just kind of went um
when arrived for a while there you can get information but you did do some really good work
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of kind of thinking outside the box not a big fan of that term but um i get it thinking creatively
yeah thinking creatively you thought different ways of finding some some information and it may be
that information you found at the end is going to turn this thing around so i want to say thank you
for the work that you've done really appreciate it i want to congratulate you on your senior year
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and good luck in the future and we thank you for this who should they contact if anybody knows any
information about this case yeah um you can contact the Delaware county police department i don't know
the phone number off my head but it's just a really quick google search and then they also have an
email then you can also contact contact call case and i'll let you guys explain how to do that um
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contact us via email if you don't feel comfortable going to the police which is coldcase at mason
isleschools.com thank you for listening to this episode of cold case mhs this podcast was edited
by the students of cold case mhs and produced by mr hubbard and myself the music was performed and
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