Shifting Gears: From Corporate to Content Creator with Bearded Tesla Guy

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Anna Stumpf (00:07):
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I present today's podcast guestswith quite a bit of pride. He
was one of my MBA students aboutsix years ago. And just in
Tamari was the guy who justshowed up in a good mood had a

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great job. And I look back now,and his LinkedIn commodity
manager, I don't know who getsexcited about that. But Justin
Sure did. He got to knoweverybody in his class, he was
relatable, always in a goodmood, always working in the
community on a special project.
And it was a few years ago, Inoticed a shift in his LinkedIn

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content, and then his employer,and was really fascinated how
and why Justin made thistransition into really a content
creator, because he wasn'tsomebody that seemed
particularly unhappy in hiscareer, had beautiful family
live close to extended family,all those things. And then the

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next thing I know he moves fromIndiana to Florida, and he's a
content creator. And I just hadso many questions about this and
could not be more happy with howtransparent and vulnerable
Justin is in this episode. Andbefore you listen, I always want
to start with a quote to kind ofget us in the right mood. There

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is an Nelson Mandela quote, thatsays there is no passion to be
found in playing small orsettling for a life that is less
than the one you are capable ofliving. So with that in mind, I
proudly present to you Justintamari, and his incredible story
of career transformation. I hopeyou enjoyed as much as I did

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talking to him. I think only hadyou in one class. But you were
the absolute most electriccohesive part of that cohort. I
feel like in a room full of bigpersonalities, I will say it was
an amazing group. I stillremember a the

Justin Demaree (02:39):
use of words being electric, that was very
clever, wasn't

that good. I didn't even really plan that I just
listened to the new heightspodcasts, like say that word all
the time. But such a good time.
And part of it was the courselike it was one of those really
not as staunch academic, ofcourse, but we just all very
much bonded and had a reallygreat time together in that

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class. And the things Iremembered about you that I
remember first of all, cominghome the first night going back
guys in like commodity likesupply chain stuff like why is
he not selling something likeyou just had a personality so
different than what you weredoing for work. But you came in

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on your motorcycle every week.
And you were just like, sosupportive of everyone you knew
a lot about every member of yourcohort and you were very much a
connector, very people oriented.
And the bikes, the bikes thatyou used to get collected
through your employer to donateto the kids in the community has

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always just stuck in my heart.
So those are the things that Iremember about you. And then it
seems like in the last couple ofyears, you've been all over my
LinkedIn feed, and it's not evenyour name anymore. It's the
bearded Tesla guy.

I know. And it's pretty wild. I do want to
clarify one thing though, thebikes, my dad gets all the
credit for that that's somethingthat he started. And it's
something personal to him backwhen he was a child thinking
about that first bike. So youknow through that toy drive for
Christmas time every year, thatwas something he really took to

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heart and every year he collectsfunds and direct bike donations
and they assemble the bikes andthen they give them away in the
end for the toy drive for thegreater or the YMCA of Greater
Indianapolis, which is anawesome organization by the way.
Yeah, some people

but I mean like a ton of bikes. I hate to say

last year, prices have gone up So much as
we all know, so the numbers arelast, I think it was 85 this
year, but 150 bikes is what theyused to bring every year. But
it's just got very, veryexpensive Of course. So I'm

for the price has gone up. But then I mean, you
think about just how stretchedwe've been as the labor market.
And they take the time to putall of those bikes together like
such a great thing. Yeah,

it's fun, too, because when they do the Bike
Assembly, Santa Claus shows up.
So it's a family affair. I thinkthey call it pancakes with
Santa. And then you know, theyopen up one of their warehouses.
everybody shows up in assemblesthe bikes as a team, and it's a
lot of fun. And then yeah, Istarted putting toy boxes out at
my work at the time, in thatfirst year, I got in big

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trouble. So I was

just kind of how you thrive, right. Like, I'll
I'll beg for forgiveness. I'mnot here to get caught in the
bureaucracy of permission,right?

Yeah, yeah, I Yeah, pretty much. I mean, I
used to call it the black markettoy drive because of that. And
it really took off. I've becomereally good at classifying
things in a name that clicks.
And that usually helps to drumup support. Yeah, black market
toy drives. Yeah.

Which again, like your creativity and your
personality, I was like, why isthis man in charge the supplies?
Yeah, I know, I'm reducing yourjob down to like something that
sounds very, like you're incharge of the janitorial closet,
which is not true. But I waslike, I get his job is
important. But man, you had apersonality that was just met

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for more. And it seems like youfigured that out along the way.
So I am excited to hear thisevolution. And in all
transparency, I was as a goodpodcast host will do stalking
you on social media. And notthat you're locked down by any

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means. But it was February 17,of 2023. So you know, like, shy
of a year ago. And you started aFacebook post with today is the
last day I will be in atraditional career. I have
wonderful people that havetaught me so much over the last
decade of my life, that when thepandemic started, my wife and I
asked the question, are weliving our best life? And I'm

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one who's also had one of thoseexistential conversations with
her spouse, where we ended upboth taking a giant U turn.
Those are dangerous ones tohave, but pivotal nonetheless.
If we couldn't answer, yes, whatwould we do? And what would that
look like? So we planned forwell over a year, switch jobs
move to Florida at the sametime, April 2020, started a

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YouTube channel. And here we area year later. I want to hear how
this all happened. Because it'sfast getting to me.

It's pretty wild. And full disclosure, every
risk that you can imagine wasabsolutely present. You cannot
go risk free on anything inlife. Right. But we did our
best, right? You know,

and let's be transparent, you have two little
ones.

We have two little ones yet a wall is now
seven. And Jack is five, whichis hard to believe. Yeah, but we
you know, when the pandemichappened it I think a lot of
people in this country took astep back and said, All right,
you know, what am I doing? Whatam I not doing? What's missing
in my life? And, you know, I wasclose to family, like four and a

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half miles from my parentshouse. Right? Heather, my wife's
parents were in Texas. So wedidn't really, you know, think
too much about Texas. But man, Itell you what, every time that
we vacation nine times out of 10We ended up in Florida. And it
was more than just theattractions and stuff like that.
Honestly, it's sunshine inIndiana, starting in October,

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the sun goes away and come backtill March or April. And the
older I get, the more thataffects me and the cold
certainly has a physical effecton me these days. So we said you
know what, here's the things wethink we want in our lives. It
may not work and that's okay.
But we will never questionshould we have done it. So we

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did it. You know, we sold ourhouse at the height of the
market and went into the marketat the height of the market
which was terrible. But youknow, it was the it was the dice
we rolled the risk we took. Wemoved down to Orlando area into
a rental home and we were losinghouses by $100,000. I mean it

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was insane. But we lucked outand got the house that we're in
today, you know, waited a yearor so. And here we are. I did
take the leap about a year agocoming up on the one year
anniversary, which wasterrifying. But I think that
there's a lot to that story thatmakes it seem exciting and

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special, but it's just luck ofcircumstance. And it's all about
taking risks in life, andputting yourself out there. And
I think that's really the storyof Justin.

Well, and this big question that you asked each
other, right, like, are weliving our best life? When you
feel like the answer is no. Andyou start to piece together,
like what does our best lifelook like? I mean, you're a
responsible adult, you had agreat job, your wife is in
health care, right? If two kidslike you said, Yeah, I mean, you

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have a lot of safety nets aroundyou at this time. What's the
trigger? What's the like tippingpoint to say, we're gonna do
this, because you're justthought, like, fly by the seat
of your pants type people,right? Like,

more so than she is right. It's about once she
she brings me in, and I pushher. So it's like, it's a good
balance. But once you have afamily, everything changes. I
think the best way I can explainit to those listeners who don't
have a family yet, I'm a verycompetitive person. I'm very

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team oriented, though. But Iwant everybody to succeed. I saw
myself as a VP, that's where mytrajectory was, I was focused on
that, you know, after a fewyears of work, enrolled in MBA
program, interesting new withyou, of course. And it was an
amazing experience. By the way,I highly recommend if you get

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the opportunity, do an in personprogram, you can not recreate or
replace the opportunity oflearning from so many
professionals from so manydifferent backgrounds. And it
truly makes the MBA worth it.

That cohort model is always a winner. Always so
good. 100%, I got my MBA in 2009to 2011. And still in touch with
the good portion of those

people. Yeah, I, I'll try, I talk too much. But
if we do get an opportunity, Ithink that I have a big impact
moment that stayed with me fromthat. That's a good sharing
moment. But anyways, yeah, sothat was my trajectory, then we
had our first kid in 2016. Andeverything changed. This was

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kind of the same time wherecompanies were moving to a more
flexible, like, you know,unlimited PTO trying to appeal
to a more balanced work life.
And I started to reallyunderstand that a lot better, I
wanted to be present in myfamily's life. At the end of the
day, this company that I workedfor, is amazing. I was very

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fortunate to work for such anawesome company. But they're not
going to be there. When I'm inthe hospital at my deathbed,
right? They'll replace me. Andthat's the case for every
organization. So I started tochange my focus, how can I
continue to be excellent at whatI do. But just excellent enough,

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you know what I mean? So stillbe still be number one, don't
lose number one status, butdon't sacrifice your family to
excel. And that's whereeverything really started to
change. And then how

do you do that?
There's a lot of people outthere want to do that? What is
that process?

That's, it's hard. It really is, especially
if you're a naturally drivenperson to do that. It's hard to
slow down basically, is whatyou're doing. So it really
requires changing your focus.
What's important to you, andunderstanding, laying that out.
How do you achieve success?

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Right? So before it was how doyou know, here's the path? How
do I get there? I want to be aVP someday. How do I get there?
Here are the steps I need totake care of the commodities I
need to manage over time hereare the teams that need to lead
over time. Make the rightchoices along the way. Well
change VP to have an amazinglife with my family. Okay, how

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do I do that? Right? Live in aplace where we can be more
active, include the outdoors,are we living a happier, more
fulfilling life together? So theit's that kind of a change and
it's Easy because we're soconditioned, and especially here
in America to be driven at workyour career, best grow, bring

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profits to the organization,that is the purpose of an
organization.

Well, and the people that raised us justify
the VP role because it was forthe family. Right? Which really
was a mind trick, because you'resacrificing your time and your
quality of life with the familyfor that role. But yeah, it's
there was this a lot on us fromhow we were raised by the people

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that informed us and yeah, it'shard in corporate America,
whatever they say, live

to work to work to live, right. And I'm, you
know, a lot of generationalthings and discussions happen
about this, a lot of hate backand forth, right. But I think
everybody can agree, even ifthey don't appreciate everything
about a younger generation, Ithink that they're doing a great
job pushing the envelope, andforcing organizations to at

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least recognize and providethose opportunities for people
to have a much more balancedlife. I think that's good for
everybody.

Oh, for sure. Okay, so how did we get to be I mean,
the bearded Tesla guy, I need toknow that

so this is where this is a crazy story. And this
is where that luck happens everyonce in a while, we all get
lucky. And that's truly what itis. So 2020, right, as the
pandemic is happening, Tesla isfinally starting to deliver
their newest model, which todaywe know as the highest, or the

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largest selling car in theentire world, right? When Tesla
Model y is the most popular carin the entire world. So they
started deliveries in March of2020. I had a reservation. But
understand at this time, we werejust now starting to shut things
down. People didn't know if theywere going to have a job
tomorrow. So people werecanceling their orders. I'm like

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way back in this order.

So let me ask what I'm gonna leapfrog one question.
Why were you on the way like,what was it about the Tesla Have
you always been a gadget guy? Iknew like when I met you had a
motorcycle, right? Like, are youa car guy? Like what was it? I'm

a gearhead. I mean, automotive is in my blood.
My dad, my uncle's my grandpa's.
Like everybody in that sense,automotive. I grew up in a shop,
I had dirt under my nails everyday. Gotcha. So after high
school, I'd go work at the shop.
I did everything in adealership, except for the body
shop. So mechanic cleaning, shopparts, service, sales, all of

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it. You know, that was myfuture. But you know, the
economic catastrophe of 2008happened and changed everything
in the automotive world. Soanyways, I'm the first one to
really step away from that andfamily. You know, going to
college, getting my MBA andpursuing a combination of my

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still my passion for cars alwayshave always will. And
technology. So as you canimagine, having a Tesla in a
family of legacy Automotive isnot a very popular thing. Right?
It's very hard to tell myparents that I placed the order
I months, I didn't tell them.
And I don't remember exactly thesituation. But it was something

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like a come to Jesus moment. Andthen I was like, Well, this is
the perfect time. I'm just gonnado it.

While your feathers are ruffled. Let me just go.

We're already starting to feel better about
getting whatever it was all forchest. So I ordered a Tesla just
wanted to let you know. So it'staken a while. But it's, it's
definitely not been easy. It'svery different against the
grain, right? This is antidealership model. This is anti
legacy. This is a whole newworld of automotive. And my

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dad's career is, you know, he'shad a fruitful career in
automotive. So that it's kind oflike where it comes from. I'm
just, I love cars. And it justhappens to be that Tesla's have
ruined cars for me. I alwaysthought I'd have a portion I
live in my garage. But why? Whywould I spend 100 And whatever

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$1,000 We're like, it's been 50and get across faster and better
in so many ways, right? So carshave really turned into you
know, it's the art of the car ifyou want to have it right. You
know, electric cars are ruiningthe spirit of VA rates and
rumbling and you know whatperformance looks like? They're
just so much different. So So Idigress. So 2020 March.

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Deliveries are starting. Istarted to see Tesla Model y
filling up at the Indianapolislocation so I realized all of
them had one option in commonand it was the upgraded wheels.
So I ran home change my order toYou include the big wheels?
Like, I don't know, let's try.
And we did in the next day. Andit's like, hey, oh my gosh, I

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see like, that's myconfiguration is that my car?
And you know, the guy's like adigital What's your reservation
number two? Oh, yeah happens beyour car. So he like assigned my
order to like somebodycancelled, right? So many people
canceled. So we signed my orderto, like, oh my god, this is
crazy. It's like, you're gonnatake it today. Give me two days.
Get everything together, pick upthe car. It's April, like right

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after my birthday, beginning ofApril of 2020. Have VIN number
2967 or something like that.
Tesla is forced to shut down theplanet. There are now less than
but about 3000 Tesla Model wisein the entire world. And there's
two people putting videos onYouTube. I happen to have one I

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like, I like production video.
So I started putting videos upright. So until June, or I think
it was July of 2020. You couldnot get a model Y. So I was one
of like five people by that timewho was posting stuff. So if you
wanted to learn about the modelY which many people did, you
have to watch one of five peopleand I just happened to be one of

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them? What that

what made you even look on YouTube? Why were you
not just driving your car livingyour best life.

Um, you know, I always liked I don't know if
it's like a teacher instinct orwhatever. I like showing people
how to do things. Like I didsome you know, not to do
anything, but not try to makewine. I made some like
motorcycle videos where like,show you how to write the
instructions suck, throw thoseaway. This is how you're going

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to do this electronics upgradeon your bike. Right? So I like
sharing, you know, the betterway or whatever a better way I
should say. And so that I likemaking videos. I like the
process of editing andproduction and all that. So it
all kind of came together Iguess, share my passion with
other people. And I just happento be in a limited edition, so

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to speak, you know? Yeah. Yeah,and but what that did is it
allowed me to have a foundation,that's what it did, it built a
foundation. To which I couldgrow from I learned a ton, my
first videos are awful. You cansee the progression over time,
you know, and that's beenfascinating and fun to learn and
grow. And, but at the end of theday, I had a foundation, I was a

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household name for anybody thatwas looking at Tesla's at that
point. So I just continued tomake videos and get better at
this craft. But I wasconsistent. And that was the key
come hell or high water. EveryFriday, there would be a video
on a channel, period. The firstvideo I missed on a Friday was

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Christmas Day, like, almost twoyears into doing this. And I
felt so awful about it. I postedit the next day. You know, so
when you're sick, the algorithmdoesn't care. Right? You know,
you're out of town algorithmdoes not care. You miss a video,
right? It jumbles the algorithmand it can really you know,

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Hanford,

and I'm assuming you built a community, right?
Like you have people that arewaiting for their cars are also
having their cars and you've gotpeople out there counting on
your content, too. So sure,

yeah. So you know, how do we have you used
this car? What are some of thespecial features like, this is
something new for a lot ofpeople this might be your first
electric car might even not buy?
It might be the first timeyou're considering an electric
car? Is this worth it? Could Ilive with this experience? So I
mean, May of 2020 we took thislong road trip just out of the

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blue, we drove straight down toFort Walton Beach, like, was the
Pensacola area stayed for lessthan 24 hours and drove back?
But that video like showedpeople all right, this is what
it's like, when you make a tripof you know, about 1000 miles
one way 1000 miles back iswhat's gonna be like, is that

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something I can live with?
Right? There's pros and cons toit, the car kind of drives
itself. It's really nice. It'snot very hard to drive this car,
it's a lot more relaxing. But italso adds time when you start to
charge. So those are the typesof experiences I share on the
channel, you know that these taxcredits have gone crazy, you

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know, how do we keep up on this,but electrification, enabling
people to make these decisionsas unbiased as possible, I think
is really the big importantthing. You know, we're just now
starting to accelerate adoption.
Are we prepared if we're notwhat do we need to do to be
prepared as a nation? Those arethe questions As I like to ask

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and try to figure out what isthe solution look like? Who are
the people who are solving theseproblems?

So knowing you, you started creating content because
it was interesting to you. Andyou knew it would be helpful to
others. At what point they'relike, getting money for this.
And then like, what does thatshift look like?

I got monetized in three months. And it's with
the current requirements thatyou have to have like 4000 watch
hours and 1000 subscribers,something like that. So I got
monetized in three months. And Ithink the first month I think it
was like, $700, or something,like, are you serious? Like, I

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was hoping to make, you know,like, maybe if we're lucky,
we'll get like 100 bucks a monthor something, you know, we could
pay for some of the fun stuff.
But I was like, completely blownaway. And about that time, I got
my first sponsor, too. So itjust like, snowballed from
there. And before you knew it,about a year, after starting, I
was making more money doingthis, and it was my career. But

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even then, it still took a yearand a half or so, two and a half
years, or whatever it was, youknow, certainly a long time for
me to take the lead even then.
So for months and months andmonths, I'm making more money
doing this, I'm way morepassionate about this. It's
certainly hard to feel motivatedat a career for somebody else

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when this is going so great. Soyeah, it's my a piece of advice
for anybody listening, if you ifthere's something you're
passionate about, just startdoing it, like, don't worry
about like, everything beingperfect, like people talk about
starting a channel to dowhatever, just do it, do it, it

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can be terrible, you'll learnalong the way, just do it. And
then before you know it, there'sa chance that it could work out.
So many people don't succeedbecause they start and then they
realize how much work it is. Andthen they just like, I don't
have time for this. So if you'rereally passionate about it, do
it be consistent period, and youwill be successful.

So, best part of your life now.

The best part of my life is having the
opportunity to do and see someof the things that I get to do
and see, you know, I get to goto these conventions. I get
invites from all thesecompanies, I get to try new
technology, it's trading cars,it's drive a lot of cool stuff,
and I get to meet a lot of coolpeople. And it's pretty awesome.

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It's you know, how many peopleget to live a life like this.
This isn't saying, like, I stillpinch myself even today, like is
this real? Like, this is insane.
But knowing

you like I saw a clip of you asking Elon Musk a
question. I was like knowing youthe way I remember you that I
have zero shock, like zero shockthat if there was anybody have a
question for Elon, you are thefront of the line, and you had a
thoughtful, compelling, wittyapproach to because that's just
who you are. Yeah,

he didn't like my questions. Yeah, he doesn't
like a lot of things. But yeah,it's like, the thing that can be
frustrating in this particularcommunity is, you know, somebody
will take the time that'savailable to ask a question or
question will be, Hey, I justwanted to say I love you so
much. You have saved the world.
Keep doing what you're doing,which is great, you know, pray,
pray. But then it's like, well,but there's so many questions.

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Like, let's ask some realquestions. Yeah.

And don't insult the man's intelligence. I mean,
he's brilliant. Ask him a toughquestion. Yeah, right.

Exactly. Yeah.
The guy gets praised, you know,all the time. And if he doesn't
need to be continuallypriceless, ask him some really
good questions, and see if wecan make some chips because he's
actually he's actually a prettyamazing guy. In many regards. Of
course, he has his downfalls.
But there's this fantasticinterview. It's SpaceX. It's a

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very informal thing the guyswalking around with them and,
you know, they asked him aboutthe gassing system. You know,
why do you have both? Can youjust use these you just see him
sit there for a minute? Youknow, he made like a probably a
$20 million decision

right there on the spot questions asked. Right.

Yeah. I mean, that's what's kind of cool about
him is he just he does he's adoer, and I'm a doer. So I
identify with that. Of course,you got a plan and but but like,
just do it, you know? Yeah.
Pretty interesting.

So what's what feels like work now?

Editing videos, it feels like work.

If you still do your own. Yeah, I

do. So I actually, I just recently hired
a freelance editor to help is abit and but it's just a balance
because not every video is goingto be, you know, a blockbuster
hit. So, you know, there's realfunds, it's hard to, it's hard
to make those financialdecisions I will say. But yeah,

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generally it's a I do thefilming the planning, the
production, the editing, postingall that stuff. But, you know, I
get this question a lot, howmuch time does it take to edit a
video and for me, and just afterthe production, so after all the
filming, and all the planning,it's about two hours per minute

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of video that you watch. So,wow, 10 hour attendant videos,
that's 20 hours of work, justjust for that one video. And you
know, so people like to thinkit's a glamorous life, and there
are many glamorous things aboutit. It's a lot of work a lot of
work,

like, what was your learning curve for that? Because
I'm thinking you do in somemotorcycle videos back in the
day, didn't really prepare youfor that level of content. And
I'm looking now You've almostgot 80,000 subscribers on your
YouTube channel, right? Like,yeah,

I'm hoping to have a plaque right here this
year. That's my goal. And it'shonestly, and it may just be
because of the way that I'mwired. You just have to do it.
And find out where you where youfail and learn quick, fail
quick, right? Oh, whatever thatterm of fail, fail fast, fail

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very fast, right? And then thatway, you can learn quicker, and
you can grow faster if you'rewilling to recognize where you
suck, right?

So what have you learned about yourself who this
because you were very selfaware, when I met you, like, I'm
very self aware guy,

we are self aware, it's a it's a pro and a
con. I have learned that I'mprobably still a little too
critical. Or I'm still workingon allowing, you know, outside
negativity to seep in, that's areally hard thing to learn. I've

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gotten really good. But youknow, just even a few months
ago, I somebody did get under meand got the best of me. So I'm
still working on that. That'sprobably my biggest weakness
right now. You know, when I, Idon't want to name names or date
things, but I'll just say, as anexample, hypothetically
speaking, if I worked forsomebody who was very arrogant

(32:40):
and had to be right all thetime, I finally told this
person, you know, what good isit to be bright, if nobody wants
to work with you.
Congratulations, you're rightnow your team has left. What is
that? Right? So it's importantto be able to take a step back
and understand like, if, if evenif somebody's attacking in
there, right? Just let it be ifthey're wrong, let it be you

(33:04):
don't have to be right. Let yourmental health thrive, not
suffer?

Well, I'm assuming like, even starting with your
own family, right? Like you hadto have a little bit of like,
their opinion is not mybusiness. Their opinion is not
an indicator of whether or notI'm going to be successful, like
what's going on in the news, orin people's minds or comments on
video, like, general public,they don't get a vote. Right.

(33:36):
And that's sometimes so hard tojust say, I'm gonna go spend two
hours and edit this 10 Minutesvideo and I'm not gonna think
about all of that, right? Likeyou have to make a choice not to
respond or react. Absolutely.

And it is an ongoing active thing. This is
not passive. This isn'tsomething you learn and then it
becomes second nature. Youalways and you've got something
out that actually just flashedin my head in 2018 or 17. I
literally, I would listen tonews going into work. I was

(34:10):
pissed off before I even startedworking for the day is toys in
it is right in the middle. Itdoes not matter. It is all
poison. It is designed to roundyou up. Since then. I have not
watched any news. And I am sohappy. I've that was probably
the biggest change of my lifethat made me happier. Stop

(34:32):
listening to news. There'snothing I can do about it. This
is a huge problem that needs tobe addressed. Yes, I will do my
part where I can but I will notI refuse to allow somebody else
to dictate my happiness. Andwell

and I think in this this country were very generous
to call it news where I was inEurope this summer and was
reminded what the news actuallyis. It's actual news updates
about factual events. occurringaround the world, not
sensationalized dramaticinterpretations of you know,

(35:08):
people's opinion, it is veryunhealthy. I went through a
thing a while back of like,well, if it wasn't for work, or
if it wasn't for this, Iwouldn't even be on social
media. And I thought, You knowwhat, that's not even healthy
either. Because as many greatconnections and many great
people I'm connected with, Ijust need to remove the things
from that, that don't support ahealthy lifestyle and took a

(35:30):
little while, right took sometime and some intention, but
man, you clean that algorithmup, like breathing clean air,
seriously.

So one of the things that was also very
active, in the height of mycareer was really making moves.
I made a conscious decision.
Like you said, my emotionalintelligence is probably a
little too high. But knowyourself, right. And know where
you don't thrive, period, youknow, I had opportunities along

(36:02):
the way to take roles. I'mhighly political environments
are not my thing, I do notthrive in those environments. So
you know, I made some decisionsalong the way to not go a
certain direction, because Iknew I wouldn't thrive. And the
same goes for, you know,surrounding yourself with
positive people, you know, thesepeople will make you a better

(36:25):
person, avoid the negativepeople be around positive
people, they don't have to bethe smartest people in the room,
they don't have to be the bestpeople at whatever it is they're
doing all you're doing. But ifyou surround yourself with the
right people, bothprofessionally and personally,
you will be a better person forit. And it's a tug of like,

talk about how, I mean, you're in a somewhat
isolated role right now, right?
And you're a one man show,you're the bearded Tesla guy,
and you got a freelancer ormaybe you've got some people on
the periphery, but and you arein a community, you foster
community, you're in a bigger,larger community. But like,
where do you get thoseconnections and those positive

(37:11):
people

is, it's actually pretty wild. And I
think I'm in a unique community.
But the first time I'm like, wasat an event was somebody that I
watched their videos before Ihad a channel, right? They were
the big guy. It was like, Wewere friends, I'd never met the
guy, right. And what I found outvery quickly is my, this

(37:34):
community of content creators atleast, is like, so positive, so
willing to do things youwouldn't believe like, hey, you
know, do you need to see mybooks? I can I help you with
contracts, like willing to doanything and everything, and it

(37:57):
makes all of us better for it.
Like, there are no trade secretsor whatever, like, Hey, I just
did this recently. And thisworked really well, you should
try it. Oh, my God, that's agreat idea. Or, you know, this,
the this sponsor is very adamantabout this, well, hey, I added
this contract language in withsomebody who was very adamant

(38:19):
about that. And that workedwell, right. Being around those
people is awesome. And whensomething does erupt, whether
it's I'm involved, or I see oneof these people involved, like
we have each other's phonenumbers, right to text, you give
them an opportunity to lend itout. And, you know, make fun of

(38:40):
the situation. So it is anisolated place here at the
house. But it's, I'm pretty, I'mpretty active. I travel a lot.
Now you do this. So it's fun toget out. I love the community.
And it's it's a lot of fun.
There's something

to be said though, for people who started their
platform to help others. You'regoing to continue to help
whether they're your competitionor you know, somebody in your
same lane. I think that is justthose intentions snowballing
into everything that you doversus people who start because
of the money or start to go byit. Like, I think those

(39:21):
intentions just grow. Yeah,

it's, it's it's learned things you know, like
watching, having awesome mentorsalong the way. One of the things
that really stuck with me, wasthis idea of givers, takers and
matchers. I'm sure you'refamiliar with it. I don't know
why, but I can never get thatout of my head. But the idea is
this, right? You have threetypes of people in the office,

(39:46):
you have givers, takers, and youhave matchers. So takers aren't
necessarily a bad thing. Theycould be early in their career.
They don't have a lot that theycan give to other people because
they don't have the excuse.
reads, but that can also besomebody who's literally
stepping on heads and burningpeople to accelerate their
career, right. These are, thesecould be very toxic and bad

(40:10):
people. But there's matchers,who are even more toxic. And
these are people who will helpyou, if you have something that
you can give them in return,whether that be influence in the
office, at the promotion,whatever these are like the
worst people because they willnot go out of their way to help

(40:30):
anybody, unless there'ssomething in it for them. And
then there's givers. And it's,the idea is, this is a good
thing. But it can also lead toburnout. These are people who
are willing to help anybody withanything, if they've got
something to give, they're goingto give it and it can be at the
expense of their ownproductivity. And so it leads to
a lot of burnout. But the ideais, if you had an entire team

(40:54):
that was givers, like, imaginewhat you could achieve, and I
really started to see a lot ofthat I was in a very awesome
team at my previous career, wedid a lot of awesome things.
We've worked hard, we playedhard, but it was just an amazing
time. But we were all kind ofgivers like, you know, we all

(41:15):
filled a niche where the othersmaybe weren't accelerating at
and it just worked. So well,this idea of teams is so much
more than you realize somebodywants told me in my career.
Look, we don't, we don't needmore managers, like, we've got
plenty of those, we can hireanother manager tomorrow. But

(41:37):
what happens if you can show youcan make a leader, if you can
train somebody, if you can growsomebody into a leader, you
know, that's what that's whatgets you places in life and your
career, you know, but to dothat, you've got to be willing
to step back and say, I wantthis person, my goal is for them
to be better than me. That'shard for a lot of people to do.

(42:00):
But that is how you do. That'show you develop leaders. And you
lead by example, by doing that,that's what they want running
the organization, not the numberone sales guy, the number one,
whatever they want the personwho is spitting out leaders.
That's hard to do.

This was like deja vu, I just went back to that
classroom if your MBA cohortbecause this is how you show up,
you always have like thatanalogy that lesson that
perspective, and you makeeverything better. And I'm
wondering, like, how do youchannel that success in that,

(42:41):
like, energy you are gettingfrom going to work every day and
doing that with a team? I mean,it's still work, right? They
call it a job, I get it. But nowlike, how did you transfer that
over? Because you thrive whenyou lead you thrive challenging
others to be their best youthrive when you learn something

(43:03):
new about yourself? Like Iremember that about you? How do
you channel that into new space?
And more independent? I mean,you've answered that a little
bit by I think you get the cruxof what I'm asking, right? Like
you were not, I don't think youwere necessarily miserable. In
your corporate job, you werethriving, you had managed well,

(43:24):
in terms of good balance andbeing there for your family. Now
granted the question that youand your wife asked, Are we
living our best life? But how doyou how do you take those things
that worked so well for you? Andthen just step into a completely
different space? Like, what doesthat look like? Was there a

(43:44):
transition for you? Like, didyou have to reset some things
internally? Like, what is thatprocess? Do you think if you had
to look back?

It's hard. I wish I had a good answer for
this too. But I but the realityis I don't. And it's one of
those things that we learn aboutour, our when somebody you look
up to and you meet them for thefirst time realize they don't
have all their stuff together.
It looks so awesome from theoutside. But the reality is like
we're all struggling, I don'thave a good answer. That is

(44:14):
something I still very muchenjoy. And really the only
opportunities I get to do thatare when I'm with others in the
community. One of the thingsI've learned about myself, that
I'm still trying to accelerate.
I've really enjoy interviewingpeople like what you're doing
right now. I think people havefascinating stories. And if you

(44:37):
just ask the right questions,you can get some of the most
amazing lessons in life fromthese people. And I've had a few
opportunities to interviewpeople and they've been pretty
awesome. That's where I get myhigh now, I guess. That same
kind of high. Community servicewas always fun too. At my

(45:00):
previous career, we did Habitatfor Humanity. We built these
houses, I got to lead a team onsite of so much fun. When I
moved here, I didn't have that Idon't have the YMCA of Greater
Indianapolis, I don't haveUnited Way, you know, I don't
have these things here. Youknow, I had to find them myself.
And it took a long time. But Idid finally find my calling for

(45:22):
service here. And that was GiveKids the World Village, which
is, I mean, everything's 45minutes away in this town, but,
you know, it's like 15 miles and45 minutes or so. But it's so
amazing. It's a cool place, coolpeople. And it's a way to, you

(45:44):
know, feed the soul. And that'ssomething I've always I've
always benefited from doingthat. So it's

not, and you prioritize that well, too.
That's the consistent you havealways prioritized that. Well.

Yeah, I think it makes you a better I really,
truly believe in karma. And Ithink that intentional things,
and will lead to good karma inlife, it just makes you a better
person. And really, karma isn'treal. It's you being a good
person and good things happen.
Because right person, right?
Like, yet, those are thingsthat, you know, you have to

(46:18):
spend your time on, like, ifyou're not making the world
better for somebody else, like,like, who's gonna do it? Right,
like, take some ownership, youknow, help somebody. And that's,
that's, I don't know what that'sjust always been, it's probably,
you know, learned behavior froma child at home. You know, it's
always been important. Were you

always very self aware?

Probably ish. I became very self aware, in my
career. When I started myprofessional career that's like,
maybe two years into it. Istarted to recognize these
things. And rather than suppressthem, I highlighted them put a
spotlight on him. Where am Istruggling? Where my weak? Where

(47:05):
am I strong? Where can mystrengths also be a weakness?
Where can my weaknesses also behelped? You know, how can I make
this work better? So I don'tcare like how I look like I've
posted videos where like, Ialmost burned the house down
like it was terrible as I wasdied. And you know, most people

(47:28):
would say, God, I never post Ilook like an idiot. Like, I
don't care. Like if I if I lookbad, great. But some of
somebody's going to this isgoing to somebody else. And
hopefully by sharing this, I canhelp prevent this from happening
for somebody else. Like don't beso worried about what everybody
thinks. Right? Like, rightthing. Help people and good

(47:50):
things will happen in life. Ilove that.

How about books, podcasts, things that are giving
you life right now? Things thatyou enjoy? I'm

really, for podcast. I really love how I
built this surprise. NPR guyRamsey's. I always enjoyed his
personality. Some people thinkhe's too optimistic. But I liked
that. Oh, no,

I love him too.

He does this awesome series of interviews
with entrepreneurs. And it's notjust small people like I would
have access to I mean, these arebig people like Jamie Siminoff,
the founder of the mostfascinating one I've listened to
was Chipotle. I highly recommendit. It was really cool. You

(48:40):
know, this guy started thiscompany. Not as an endgame. He
started that to help start afive star restaurant, right? He
didn't want to sell burritos in.
But when he was when he decidedthis is what I need to do to get
to where I want to go. He wantedto do the best he could with it.
Right? He wanted to beauthentic. When he went to
Tijuana or wherever it was inMexico. I think it was Tijuana.

(49:01):
You know, they always give him aburrito. But it's wrapped in
foils, like we're going to dothat this is going to be an
authentic thing. It's going tobe fresh, it's going to be the
best that we can do. And thenI'll get to where I want to go.
But what he did is he embracedchange. And that's hard for
people to do they get tunnelvision. And I think, you know,

(49:22):
listening to his story like thisguy really did himself a service
by being adaptable andunderstanding and recognizing
along the way. A five starrestaurant is not my that's not
my my future. Turns out, this ismy future. And he went all in.
And I think that's a good lessonfor all of us to you know, we

(49:43):
think we want to be this. Butalong the way, you're going to
step in the special role thespecial project assignment,
you're going to learn like Idid, that supply chain is your
career. I was in operations andI learned I loved meeting with
suppliers when they would comeon site negotiating those

(50:03):
contracts and, and then finally,one day I'm like, I think I
should be in supply chain.

I took a step I think I am actually, yeah. You
know, I

would so I should be in sales. You're
absolutely right. The onlyreason I don't like sales is
it's very cutthroat competitivein every organization I've ever
seen. There's no teamenvironment, it is all me, me,
me, me, me, and the rightenvironment I thrive in.
Otherwise, I would love sales.
I, you know, I, for whatever,I'm just wired that way to

(50:38):
bring, you know, customers, makethem recognize why they need
this, right. I don't know whyI'm just that way. But I will
not work in a corporate salesenvironment. Because of that.
It's just not me, you'd have to

be in the right one. I'm not sure they're out
there that is capable of tellingsomebody, we're not the best
fit. Like, you need to go overhere and look at this. Like,
that's the only time I think youwould be happy in that role. But
yeah, I'm

sure that there is some painting with a wide
brush here. But generallyspeaking, that's not that's not
the environment I do best. Andso

on that competitive question, how much attention do
you pay to your views and youranalytics and different things
on your content, because I knowthat can become a little bit of
a rabbit hole.

And it's a very important one. There's a lot on
the line, which makes it youknow, even more stressful or
important, you know, if doingsomething that's bringing less
people, and I'm losingviewership, that's a problem. I
want to continue doing what I'mdoing. And the only way I can do

(51:52):
that is continuing to grow thechannel. So I pay a lot of
attention, probably too much. Idid make a pact though with my
wife after discussions, the lastlike blow up. I had, I guess. As
much as it pains me, I pridedmyself, I responded to every
single comment for three years,right? Oh, wow, three comment.

(52:16):
Unless it was nasty or negative,like, Forget you, I'm not even
gonna bother. But everybody, ifyou took the time to interact
with my video, the least I coulddo is answer your question. Give
you a shout out. Thank you,whatever. I did that until
recently, you know, within thelast few months, I stopped. So I
still caught it from time totime, but I had to, I just have

(52:37):
to, like, I have to take a stepback. And that's hard for me. I
don't like that. Because Ireally enjoyed being that. You
know, everyone's wanting you tohear something. I can't believe
you still respond to commentslike, Yeah, it's awesome, right?
But I can't for my own mentalhealth. And it's just, it's
gotten to the point where it's alot, you know, it's a lot

harder to have that balance of work life when you're
out there on your own andresponsible for those metrics.

100% I can tell you, I work more hours now than
I ever worked working both thecareer and doing this. It's hard
to explain I just I'm

it's different, though, doesn't it? Doesn't feel
like the grind feel

the same exact, yeah, it feels good, or because
you know, you're doing yourthing, you're doing it for you.
It's your passion. So it's a loteasier to do that. But it's also
a slippery slope. Right? Youknow, am I spending enough time
with my family? And the answeris probably not. You know, I've
spent a lot of time adjusting myschedule, you know, there for a

(53:47):
while I would, I would just waituntil eight or nine o'clock at
night to start working. I'dworked like five o'clock in the
morning. And that wasn't goodeither. Now, so it's trying to
find about a lot easier whenkids are in school so you can
work during the day whilethey're at school and then stop
and then work again a little bitat night. But but you know, if

(54:09):
something big happens, you know,news doesn't care. It has such a
short life cycle, you know, theydon't care that you're sitting
down for dinner.

So any they're counting on

you do that.
Yeah.

So what's what's next for you just keep this
going. I mean, looking at otherI feel like you always have some
sort of a three to five yearplan.

Yeah, so I'm probably going to cry. If I hit
100,000 subscribers. It's likethe moment I hold that plaque
right. It's just validation, youknow? That's my short term
thing. I am like I don't knowblinders are on straight for

(54:58):
that. That is what I'm workingtowards you Right now, nothing
else matters. Expensive manythings, I'm sure. That's the
short term. I have. It's funny,I've, I almost changed the
channel name a couple of times.
And ultimately, after over ayear of messing around with this
idea, I finally made thedecision, I'm not going to

(55:21):
change the channel name, I'mgonna start second channel. I've
already I've already goteverything set up, it's ready to
go. But I just need to do it. Soit's just finding the time to do
it. But that's been well over ayear, I needed to start this
thing.

So is it different content? Yeah, different cones,
different brands, differenteverything? Yeah.

There's really two additional channels I want
to do. One of them being moretech focused. So it can be
everything, not just Tesla. Andthen the other, I travel a lot.
So why wouldn't I share that Ishare the trip, too. I don't
share what I'm doing on thetrip, though. So I don't know if
that would be entertaining ornot. So those are kind of the

(56:10):
things I'm working on right now.
Also very concerned about thisstock could end tomorrow. So
that's always in the back of mymind. Am I doing enough to have
a backup plan or whatever? Soyeah.

Is that leftover from corporate America? World?
Yes, yes.

Not the, you know, ride it till the wheels
fall off, right? Just you can'tfail, right? It's right. Well,
if I fail, you know, I can goback to, you know, this safety
net. And we went a year withouthealth care. I mean, there's so
so many risks, you know, we tookto do this, and I am lucky

(56:53):
enough to have a wife thatsupports me enough to take on
this adventure with me. So Imean, it. I thought it was going
to take months to convince herwe kind of had a plan. We did
this a little earlier than Iplanned. But everything just
fell together, right? And in anhour after talking, I mean, she
was on board, not just like,okay, we can do this, just this

(57:16):
just that. It was like, let's dothis. Let's do it. But you
better do it. Do it. All right,here we are, you know, not
everybody has a support systemat home like that, either. So
very fortunate that she puts upwith me.

Oh, I'm sure she gets quite a bit out of that. I
can't imagine her anything otherthan an amazing husband. Just
again, I remember you talkingabout her and your kids in
there. It's that level ofauthenticity you have with
everything that you do. Rightmakes you who you are. And I can
imagine. I mean, you guys havebeen together for a while,

(57:53):
right? A long time. Long time.
She knows.

We've been married for coming up on 14
years. We were together fiveyears before that, or Siebel
sweethearts. That's more thesedays.

No, I'm glad that happened to you though. Yeah.
All right. So you gave one pieceof advice, which I think is
incredible. If you have an idea,if you have something you want
to do, just start, right, juststart start small, don't worry
about what people think don'tworry about perfection, all

(58:29):
those things, which I feel likeit's something you've probably
done in every facet of yourlife, not just, you know,
creating content for youtube,

almost burning the house down. Right.

Right. Perfection seems like a stretch, why am I
going for that? It's a lesson tobe learned and all this other
thoughts for people that maybeyou know, mid career? Begin late
a pivot seems very big and veryscary, and that there's a lot of
risk and you know, how toprocess all that.

Yeah, there's two things I put I put down that
I wanted to make sure. Imentioned. So the first being,
you have to learn to balanceperfection and efficiency. It's
really hard, especially early inyour career when you're trying
to make a name for yourself. Itdoes not have to be perfect. It

(59:28):
needs to be good to a point.
After that it's diminishingreturns, right? You can make it
better, you can always make itbetter. But is that going to
drive any value by being betterthan what it is right now? And
you need to really work onasking yourself that question.
Learn to ask yourself thatquestion everything that you do,
and you will learn how to let goof things. And that's when you

(59:51):
become a leader is when you'reable to let go of things and let
others do so the sooner you cancan learn that the sooner you
can start your journey ofbecoming a leader.

Anna Stumpf (01:00:05):
Always the question I have from that, too is like,
who's the perfection for? Like,I've never tried to be perfect
for myself, because I know I'mnot perfect. And I really don't
ever want to be thinking that Ineed to be perfect for other
people because they're notperfect. Who are we trying to be
perfect for? That's always beenmy question. Yeah. Yeah, it's

Justin Demaree (01:00:26):
always a pursuit, always trying to be
better, absolutely. But alsorecognize when when you're past
the finish line, you don't needto go beyond that, you know,
it's okay, to stop there. That'sa hard mental shift for a lot of
people. Yeah, especially ifyou're competitive. And then the

(01:00:47):
other thing, this one's reallyimportant. And I think that this
one is probably the mostimportant. Don't try to be
somebody that you're not.
Because everybody can tell, youknow, be you be a better you.
But don't copy, right, like,surround yourself with good
people. But don't, don't try tobe that person, take qualities

(01:01:10):
from them. And from this person,you know, help improve yourself.
But don't ever apologize forbeing you be on questionably you
don't be afraid of the personthat you are, you're perfect how
you are. The reason you'reperfect. How you are is because
you have the capability of beingbetter. And that's okay, it's

(01:01:31):
okay to say I'm not perfect,it's okay to say I could be
better just work on it.
Everybody can tell when you'rephony. So don't be

there. There's nothing better in this world, I
would imagine a stack of moneyisn't even as good as self
awareness. Really, truly knowingyourself and to your point
earlier, like knowing where yourgaps are knowing where you need
to improve where you canimprove, knowing what's your
capabilities are and where youneed to stop and let somebody
else come in and take I mean,all of that is just so

(01:02:06):
important. Yeah. And I feel likethere's people that are always
trying to copy and adopt and bechameleons just don't know
themselves.

Agreed? Yeah, recognize who you are, and be
proud of who you are, you know,even with your flaws. And I
think that that, that can reallyhelp a lot of people all around
and not just it's

the one thing you could be an expert in. Nobody
else knows, right? Like, you canjust double down beat yourself.

Yeah, and I only have one other thing I wanted to
discuss. And then that's all Ihave on my list. All right. Go
for it. Okay, this is one of thebetter moments in my education
development. So during my MBA,and this is going to be a

(01:02:57):
perfect example of why youshould seriously consider a in
person cohort for your MBA.
Okay, I'm not going to mentionnames because I don't want to
call anybody out. But this isfascinating. We're doing a class
on change management, you know,these companies, how do we make
the shifts? We're talking aboutthe taxi industry and Uber? And
it's all the same basic answers,right? Like, yeah, good

(01:03:20):
riddance, you know, this isbetter, a better service, it
forces blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, the same God, blah, blah,
then this hand raises in thefront of class. And I'm telling
you right now, my jaw aboutdropped to the floor after I
listened to this. Thisparticular person is a black
person she was in Chicago. Shesaid, Uber wasn't all those

(01:03:42):
things to her what Uber was toher meant she could get ride.
Like, what do you mean? Whatdoes this mean? Like so the park
town I'm from and because I'mblack? A cab will not stop for
me. But with Uber, I don't haveto show who I am. I don't
there's not like all thesethings, telling them why they

(01:04:06):
shouldn't pick me up. They justcome and pick me up. What Uber
was for her was equal access totransportation.

I mean, think about the Uber driver. Think about the
Uber driver. Think about allthose minorities who couldn't
get hired at the taxi company.
Yeah. Started working forthemselves if they had a
vehicle, but yeah.

Do you think that I as a middle class white
dude with an Indiana in Indianawould ever have learned that
lesson? Any other way? No. Butthe important thing is it helps
with providing perspective. Youknow, we we're so caught up in

(01:04:50):
our own little world we forgetlike there's so many things
going on out there and so manydifferent challenges people face
and we spend so little timerecognizing what those are. And
really, wow, what a moment. AndI'm, I'm eternally grateful for
having had that opportunity tohear that, because I think it

(01:05:13):
really helped to shape the waythat I think even more. Okay,

so for folks listening, it is youtube.com,
the bearded Tesla guy,

just bearded Tesla guy here to Tesla guy,

go to YouTube bearded Tesla guy, you are
bearded Tesla on Instagram X andTiktok and subscribe to your
channel today i will make sureI'm not getting a Tesla, I don't
think it's not on my to do listbut I'm gonna watch your content
simply because I think I canlearn a lot about content and I

(01:05:46):
love supporting you. And whoknows, I might learn enough
about the Tesla that I wouldunderstand how it would fit
better into my lifestyle.

You wouldn't believe it. But there's a lot of
benefits seriously consider thisis a bold statement that you
would have to have another hourto understand but it is as cost
effective or even more costeffective to own a Tesla Model.
Why not the cheapest Tesla thanto own a nice trimmed out with a

(01:06:18):
Camry well just lines up sowell.

I'm so proud of you. I have zero surprise that
this is the direction your lifeis going because you you're just
one of those people that I don'tever would put a limit on. But
just incredibly proud of you.

Yeah, I It's, I wouldn't be able to do it. If I
didn't have the situation I dealwith a supporting wife and you
know, having the foundationthere. That's why I said, just
start just starting until youjust start. It's

the best advice.
It's the conclusion of anothergreat episode. And you know what

(01:07:13):
that means? We believe in thepower of practical wisdom.
That's why at the end of everyepisode, we propose the
collective challenge. This is asmall actionable step for you to
integrate these lessons learnedinto your daily life. Remember,
we also value your voice in ourlisteners voices segment, we
respond to your questions andcomments, building a community

(01:07:34):
of shared learning and support.
Okay, now that we've heard fromJustin, your collective
challenge this week, is to setaside as much time as you
possibly can, maybe 30 minutesevery day, try it for a week,
figure out whatever passionproject, new hobby, something
you've been wanting to explore,don't put any judgments and no

(01:07:55):
expectations on yourself. Thisis just an experimentation
phase, your do not have to beperfect. As we talked about
multiple times in the episode,you could just be doing research
online, maybe starting a miniproject, maybe a tiny piece of
content, whatever it is thatyou've been wondering, and think
about like atomic habits, thatgreat book, little small pockets

(01:08:16):
of time just to build on. Sojust start something that's all
Justin said for us to do. Let'smake that our collective
challenge this week. And if youwant to share your experiences,
do it on our social pages, sendme an email from collective
energy coach.com on the websitethere if you do want to post
social content use hashtagcollective challenge, and we'll

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