August 26, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode of Deep Woods Paranormal, we sit down with Kev — an outdoor adventurer, Bigfoot enthusiast, and author of a children’s Bigfoot book that introduces kids to the mystery of Sasquatch in a fun and approachable way.
Kev shares what first got him into Bigfoot research, his favorite research locations, and some of the unforgettable experiences he has had at Bigfoot hotspots. He also tells the story of when he and his team got a little too close to Bigfoot — and the incredible events that followed.
We also discuss his future Sasquatch exploration plans, where he hopes to continue his research, and details about his upcoming book projects.
If you love Bigfoot, cryptids, adventure, and passing the mystery on to the next generation, this is an episode you won’t want to miss!
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Here are Kev’s media links:
📸 Instagram: PineShadowDesign
🛒 Etsy: PineShadowDesign
📖 Amazon: "Billy Finds Bigfoot"
📚 Hangar1Publishing: "Billy Finds Bigfoot"
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Kev shares what first got him into Bigfoot research, his favorite research locations, and some of the unforgettable experiences he has had at Bigfoot hotspots. He also tells the story of when he and his team got a little too close to Bigfoot — and the incredible events that followed.
We also discuss his future Sasquatch exploration plans, where he hopes to continue his research, and details about his upcoming book projects.
If you love Bigfoot, cryptids, adventure, and passing the mystery on to the next generation, this is an episode you won’t want to miss!
👉 Subscribe for more Bigfoot, ghost hunting, and paranormal adventures every week.
Deep Woods Paranormal — making the paranormal, normal.
Here are Kev’s media links:
📸 Instagram: PineShadowDesign
🛒 Etsy: PineShadowDesign
📖 Amazon: "Billy Finds Bigfoot"
📚 Hangar1Publishing: "Billy Finds Bigfoot"
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/come-explore-the-paranormal-files-as-we-delve-into-the-unexplained-the-paranormal-podcast--5547977/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Back to another.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Deeps Paranormal podcast. Today, we have an amazing fellow bigfooter
and author, keV. He writes to the children's books about Bigfoot.
He's very into action adventure and uh he's a lifelong
bigfoot enthusiast. Uh. So we're gonna have him come on
here and talk about his book a little bit and
(00:55):
tell him us about himself and what got him into bigfooting. So,
with without any keb, would you please tell us about
what got you into big footing.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, hey, Matt, thanks for having me on the show.
So the initial I think bite of the bigfoot Bug
came back in about nineteen ninety five when the Internet
was just getting going, and one of the very first
websites I went on to was the BFO Bigfoot Field
Reacher's Organization website. From there, you know, it was really
(01:27):
any and all clips I could find involving Bigfoot. But
I would say possibly even before that, I gotta say
it was Harry and the Henderson's. I mean, that was
just such an epic movie with John Lithgow, and it
was just one of those movies that actually captured what
(01:48):
a lot of bigfoot experience and people who've had big
foot experiences. It's all about where a hunter will see
its eyes and then it's so human like where you
couldn't pull the trigger or you know, just having this
kind of connection with nature as it did with like
the Dog, if you will. But it just was one
of those movies where it it definitely I think led
(02:10):
to where I'm at now, which is just a full
blown big foot nerd, which is what I will call myself.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Awesome, awesome, Yeah, I love that movie. That movie first
came out, I was like, oh yeah, I gotta watch this.
Everybody's like, you gotta watch that movie.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
You're into big yep, nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So good, good movie.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yep. I wasn't a bigfoot believer then, but soon after
oh yeah, so yeah, that's right. Anyways, have you ever
had any encounters with bigfoots or seen a bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Or I've had a few class B encounters, Class B
meaning you know, heard got engraled at we had a
treat get knocked down on most and Alamos, New Mexico,
and then we also I mean heard heard the walking,
heard the lumbrius walking after the tree got knocked down.
(03:02):
But then also an interesting one was a little bit
I think unique in fact, was out in near mount
Hood area and what we captured on audio, which I
believe was a baby sasquatch blowing raspberries.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
In up in a tree.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So this was at night. There was a couple of
us I would say, maybe like five ish four people
tops maybe, but we were kind of going down this
trail with one of the like what pretty predominant bigfoot researcher.
This was his kind of territory. So we were going
(03:48):
down a trail and one of the fellows that I
was with kind of made a really loud knock. Everything
got real quiet, but then just this one tree started
creaking and swaying. No other tree was creaking or swaying.
We all kind of took pause and noticed it and
kind of almost formed a half circle around it just
(04:10):
where the trail line was. The other half this tree
was like just you know, out in the bush there,
but into some thickets. But we started looking at it,
and sure enough I started hearing this like like a
baby would do, blowing raspberries. And it was just one
(04:31):
of those things where I caught it on audio and
all the There was one woman there who was talking
in like a kid, you know, a very baby like voice,
and then there was four guys myself included. We said, okay,
we're gonna let you talk to this thing. We're gonna
move down the hill, you know, down this trail, and
(04:51):
she started bringing out all sorts of like baby She
just happened to have baby toys like on her, which
was miraculous.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, I was like, what is going on right now?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Like a slinky like a little rattle, baby rattle, and
I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
So, you know, that was that was the extent of it. This.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I was with a family member there and they said
that they were they caught like a heat signature way
up in the tree, but was very because of all
like the the branches and all sorts of stuff, like
it was real blobby, so you couldn't quite make it out.
But it was just the idea that this tree was creaking.
I heard this raspberries being blown everything else. Matt was
(05:34):
just silent in the forest, and I was like, you
had that feeling that mama or big brother or big
sister are perhaps around.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And like, you know, you just had that feeling.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But that was the Those are the two more exciting
times that I have had out there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That's crazy. That's crazy. I go down to a place
where I think there's juveniles, and I'm sure mom and
Dad are around somewhere.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You got to wonder, or at least like a babysitter.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, drop them off for the day and
go pick them up at night or whatever they're doing.
You stay here, you stand out well.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's kind of interesting because when we walked past that
same area, that same tree, on the way out to
kind of a different investigation point, and there was a
bar owl that had gone off, and candidly, I don't
I'm not an expert on barn owls, but this thing
(06:31):
sounded like R two D two with like a whistle
and a hoot and all sorts of things, and I
was like, what is that like? But my immediate sense
was like, oh my gosh, we're in this. We stepped
into some like den and we weren't supposed to be here.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And that was the alarm, if you will.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Right, this bigfoot researcher was like, Oh, it's just a
bar owl, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And I'm and it What I'm getting at is.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
They're so good at mimicking sounds, and it's like, how
do we know that that was a bard? That's what
later on, as I reflected on my experience, that's where
I was like, is that are you sure?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Are we sure that's a bar? Because that sounded crazy
for an owl to produce.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But anyway, yeah, yeah, and I've been out there. I've
heard him mimic coyotes. I've never really heard them do
an owl, but other birds. Ye, have you heard the
clicking the But they's like they're like snapping something together
te chump, maybe a tea chump, or maybe they're snapping
(07:35):
their fingers real quick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But I've not personally had that, but I am aware
that they will produce all sorts of sounds, which is
I had a buddy actually show me that if you
kind of go like oh with your mouth and like clap,
you could really get like a good, real, real timber sound.
And maybe that's what they're doingta out of a wood
(08:00):
knock perhaps.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, Yeah, I talked actually saw him do it. He
said it went like this, yeah, like you know, it popped.
It made a popping sound with its mouth. I've always
wondered if maybe that's what they're doing, because I've had
them happen feet from me and I'm looking around and
it's it's pitch block, of course, and I'm looking around.
I'm going, Okay, where did that just come from? I
(08:23):
came from defeet from me, and I'm like, there's no here.
I'm shining my light around. I'm like, there's nothing there.
Where did they just come from?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I know. It wasn't a woodennock, it was something else.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So, I mean, it's amazing. I was.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I was in Mexico one time, and you know, I verbally,
you know, obviously not verbally, but like I heard the
howling monkeys of Mexico and that to.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Me was like so loud, Yeah, I bet.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And the the fact that their throat and gorgeous itself,
like it's just like I I liken it to the
fact that because Bigfoot's to me, is most likely primate
of some kind, like it's got that extra muscle and
throat tissue to make some crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Sounds right right, all right, So tell us a little
bit about your book. What what got you into designing
a kid's book? And you know, wanting to kind of
teach kids.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I am. I really wanted to.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I mean selfishly, I always just I was thinking at
the time that that was the capacity at which I
could write a book where it had to be a
children's book, there had to be drawings, because that's that's
all I could produce. I am working on a young
adult's novel, so put that out there if anyone's interested.
But yeah, so this really was just a just a
(09:52):
love of creating a book about Bigfoot, where this young child, Billy,
has a love for the forest, has a love for adventure,
has a love for studying the leaves and the rocks
and the animals that he sees in the woods, and
(10:15):
he draws. He tries to draw pictures of all the
things that he does see, you know, But then trying
to also share some life lessons that I think are
just as important for adults, like really valuing what you
have in front of you and not taking things for granted.
That's a really hard lesson, I think, even for adults
(10:36):
to learn. But I wanted to try to get that
message out there earlier for children and trying to get
them understanding that, you know, life is a bit hard,
is a bit challenging. You might not always get what
you want, which is seeing a rare white fox, which
is actually what Billy is truly trying to find. But
(10:56):
instead someone or something comes along the way, like a bigfoot,
and that's the greatest mystery of all. Right, So that
was some of the lessons that I was trying to share,
But ultimately just I love to draw and I love
to create, and you know, I wanted to produce something
that was physical and tangible and I could pass on
(11:18):
and share and and if I'm reaching out to hopefully
the next generation of bigfooters, well then like that's that
I wanted that to be my target audience.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Right, And you know that next generation is going to
be the group that not only will they have a
lot more technology to you, oh my gosh, but they
will have a better chance of possibly getting documenting and
getting better evidence and hopefully protecting these things. Yeah, they're
not just killed. I mean in Texas, you in a
lot of states, you can kill bigfoot and it's murder
(11:51):
or anything they did just just you know, you can
do it. Yeah, there are people out there that do
go hunt bigfoot, and yeah, do you agree with that? No,
I don't. All right, my phone's going crazy here, but yeah, no,
I don't agree with that at all. I don't think
that people should be hunting them. Unfortunately, at some point,
we're going to have to produce our body. Yeah, like
(12:14):
I said, I don't want to get this is more
for kids, so I don't want to get into too
much details. But let's just say big Brother. I don't
believe Big Brother wants us to find out what's really
in the woods. So sure, Yeah, that's that's the scary
part about it. They'll they'll come in and take it
from you. If you actually did produce something real that
people could you know, physically say oh my gosh, it's real.
(12:38):
Science could actually take and do something with it and
go okay, yeah, okay, we now considered this to be
a real thing.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean that goes for any paranormal creature.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
But yeah, there's definitely some I don't even know if
you want to call them conspiracy theories, but there are
theories that the militarity knows of them, especially with the
eruption of Mount Saint Helens, that there were bodies discovered
from that eruption that the military, you know, was trying
to cover up. There's been so many stories and not
(13:13):
so many perhaps, but like there's definitely stories about black
ops coming in with the helicopters as someone has just
had a big foot sighting. So yeah, it's and as
far as the science, like I think there's science out
there that already proves that they're real, such as you know,
Jeff Meldrem out there showing that they're what what a
(13:35):
single track could provide as far as the locomotion of
the foot and everything like that, but we're just.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Not it's just not accepted yet.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So yeah, so hopefully the next generation really with the
technology that you mentioned that is coming in, it's think
of all the drone technology or you know, as infrared
becomes cheaper. I mean I remember when this was like
you couldn't even get a flur for less than like
ten grand, and now they're only like what a couple
hundred bucks, Like that's that's not that bad.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, Well, some of the military technology out there I have.
I've met several dozens and dozens of military personnel that
are interested in this, and a lot of them start
out with me and then quickly back off and disappear
because their superiors say Oh no, you're not supposed to
be doing that. But the technology brought to me and
(14:25):
shown me it is insane in the military has so
much clear Oh yeah, Claire's day. I mean you can
see thousand feet. You can see Claire's day. It looks
just like they with the night vision technology have and
the fleir stuff they have. Oh, I mean it's it's
millions of dollars worth of technology. I mean cameras that
are one hundred thousand dollars if they're use out in
(14:47):
the field. But you can see, you know, at least
a thousand feet if not more, right through trees, right
through all that stuff. You can see exactly where everything is.
And the drones that they have. Yeah, I mean if
they really wanted to you, I mean, it would be
really easy to prove big if it exists at this
point in time, if we could get the technology that
they have, I mean, wee, we've got to flyover and
(15:10):
you oh, yep, there they are, you can see them.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But yeah, So what areas do you research? If you
have a research location, I mean, what states? Or do
you stay in one spot or you do you move around?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I move around, not necessarily by choice, so being in
the Midwest here, you know, you can go to Illinois,
you can go to Wisconsin. They're up in northern Minnesota.
It's really I mean, so where I've gone to answer
your question has been predominantly the Oregon area mount Hood
(15:53):
give for Pinchot out of Washington. I've also gone to
again Los Alamos out of New Mexico, to an expedition
out of the Sam Houston National Park in Texas. So
and it's like, you wouldn't think that they'd be so
close to Houston, but you know that there's some reports there.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
As well as Iowa.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And so now I think my next couple of journeys
might be out east, but kind of all over and
you know it, it doesn't really matter, you know, for
your audience and perhaps those who are just tuning in it.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It doesn't necessarily matter. You don't necessarily have to live
in the forest.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You could have an experience just taking out your trash,
is what I always kind of like to say. It
just depending upon the right area, if there's a food source,
if there's shelter, if there's water, anything that could basically
house a large ish animal, uh, they're most likely there.
And sometimes I find it super hard to believe that
(16:58):
anything is you know, anything is perhaps in a very
flat area or non forested, but there are reports come
out of say like the Dakota's where it's super flat,
there's no forest or nothing, but yet they're there.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So it's kind of nuts, right, Well, it's going back
to Houston. Yeah, a lot of people still report bigfoots
in Houston. It's amazing. I mean I talked to a guy.
He lives not in downtown Houston, but he lives on
the outskirts in a forest or on where he lives.
I mean, Houston's very forested. People don't realize fort right, Yeah, still,
I mean Houston. They this whole half of Texas where
(17:35):
I live. I live in the Brian College Station area,
but it's about ninety minutes from Houston. We're northwest of Houston, Texas.
In half this half of Texas is very forested away
from the coast all the way up to the Panhandle,
and it's very very filled with bigfoots. But yet you
(17:55):
go down into that area. Even in Houston, even in
rural areas and even around where I live, there's bigfoot reports.
I mean, I have something in my backyard I don't
know what it is. I put a podcast out about
it the other day. Monsters in my backyard. I don't
know what it is, but with a big amber eyes.
But yeah, I mean yeah, they're there everywhere. They can
(18:15):
live anywhere. I mean they can literally people talk about
them dumpster diving and stuff like that. Right, Ye, parks,
they see them come in and steal food out of
the out of the camps. They come into camps sometimes,
ye steal food out of people's lunch boxes or coolers
or whatever. You know. So anyways, but yeah, let's see.
(18:39):
So what evidence have you guys been able to find.
I talked about earlier about hearing some audio evidence. Have
you found anything else besides audio evens?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So we have found h footprints, but nothing is as
you know, the holy Grail of footprints as some of
those casts that are already out there, you know in
circulation and pictures and things like that. You know, it's
really hard to get dermal ridges as evidence. That's you
(19:09):
got to have the right mud. You literally need to
be on the tracks of that bigfoot to kind of
get that type of detail. So candidly, nothing like that.
To circle back, dermal ridges are like the fingerprints of
like your fingertips or your toes, just for those who
might not be familiar with that term. But other than footprint,
(19:29):
everything's been either trees got knocked down, we again growled at,
or there was a stone or rock. This was a
large rock thrown through the trees again near the mount
Hood area. And the other one that I would say
is still like on the questionable side, is what the
(19:52):
big glowing amber orbs that tend to be in the
same area are, because I've experienced that twice, one of
which was in sam Houston, the other one was in
Los Animals. But that I you know, I'm not seeing
uh sasquatch produce that, So I don't know if I
can correlate those two or not.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right, Yeah, it's just some kind of energy. In my research,
I found out that basically almost everywhere bigfoots are, there's
UFO sidings, there's ghosts hunting the ghosts in that area too.
I mean people don't the same Houston National Forest is
also haunted. Yeah, so UFO reports in that area. So
(20:34):
I mean you just go to the Seriatarago ghost lights.
I guess what else is there? Bigfoot? Yeah, and that's
you know, in the same area.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And do you I mean, for your for your viewpoint, Matt,
do you think that there's correlation there?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Are they all?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I don't know, starting to find that the three four
maybe dog Man is even in that area sometimes and
start to put other encryptid creatures into that area too.
It's just like, all this stuff is happening in these
same areas. What is up with that? I mean, like
I used to go to a place called Black Star
Canyon out in Santama Mountains out in California in the
(21:13):
Cleveland National Forest. Yeah, there was bigfoot sightings. I had
a lot of big foot sightings out there, had multiple
encounters with them out there daytime time ORBS sightings.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You've had sights.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Sightings, yeah, well close encounters unfortunately, well fortunately, but unfortunately
someone were scary, Yeah, Shatto people, black you know block Yeah,
there was. The Lady in White was seen out there
often a lot of ghost sighting. We did a lot
of ghost hanging out there, and then UFO sightings. So
(21:47):
I mean that place is just it's just the more
the more you do the research, it's like the more
you start to go, Okay, wait, are all these things
kind of like wrapped in together, bigfoot UFOs ghosts are
they all? You know? I got to the point where
I got to a relationship with the ghosts at Black
Star Kingyon and they would let my kt And I
know a lot of people don't take KT's too seriously,
(22:09):
but there's no EMF out there. There's no electricity out there.
It's just open. It's just a big open area, no power,
no nothing. Cell Phones usually were turned off because they
would get drained if they weren't turned off. And so
they're letting up the KTU. I'm like, have you seen
a big Harry creature out here tonight? As stupid as
that sounds, light up and it's like okay, and then
(22:30):
you hear like a tree knock here, yeah, oh yep, yep,
there they are.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So yeah, I'm just starting to wonderful all that stuff
kind of misses and mashes together.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
So I mean, yeah, I would say that they they do.
I mean I think that's some I mean the energy
aspect of it. I mean, this is where you know,
I think that there's plenty of literature out there that
kind of describes this. I mean I kind of am
(23:04):
thinking of like the giants, cannibals, and monsters like Bigfoot
in Native Culture by Kathy Moskowitz. You know, that to
me is a very good book. I mean it talks
more so about the lure of it, but that book
in particular really goes well into like just the history, frankly,
of where bigfoots and culture has come from, especially for
(23:25):
the Native Americans or Indians, and you know, it's.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Always been here.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Is kind of the is kind of always the narrative,
just like spirits, perhaps just like aliens. I mean, it's
those things probably terrifying me more than a bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
But I always want to get scared by a ghost.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's and the clingers are horrible. You
don't want to deal with them.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh boy, So what are your future bigfoot plans? What
are you are? You? Do you have any expeditions coming
up that you can talk about or.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I mean, I want to do some more research in
Wisconsin area, but then obviously get more out east. You know,
I've got a friend out there who's near like the
main New Hampshire area and so some of the Blue
Ridge Mountains over there, and so I guess that's it
(24:22):
would be interesting kind of get the take on the
East Coast and I think that's from Headed Next Awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Well that sounds awesome, all right, cool, Well, do you
have anything else you want to share with us before
we go?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I mean, if I could give a quick plug on
where you can find me. Yeah, so you can find
me at Pine Shadow Design. That's my Instagram handle. You
can also look at some of the designs and bigfoot
things that I have going on on my Etsy shop again,
Pine Shadow Design.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Definitely try to find my book Billy Finds Bigfoot. You
can find that a hanger on publishing dot Com or Amazon. Yeah,
that's reach out, say hi and get connected.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Definitely. And I have a neighbor next door. He's five
years old. He's all in the Bigfoot. I'm gonna actually
buy him that book.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It'll be fun for him because he's always talking to
me about going big footing. And I think he might
be just a little too young because I don't want
him to get scared. The book would be probably perfect
for him to start out with and kind of maybe
start to learn a little bit. But he knows about
tree knocks and all this other stuff and he's really
into it. So anyways, well, thank you so much for
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coming on. His links will be down below, guys to
all his sites and stuff like that, so we will
be publishing that in our description. So if you guys
have any questions about his books, where he can get
his book, or if you want to contact him, or
even buy a shirt or some cool stuff that he has.
He has some really cool designs and stuff, some hats
(25:52):
and stuff like that, feel free to go down there
and check out his store and we will basically be
publishing that for you guys to see. And if you
guys like this video, go back and watch my video
up here and we'll be sharing that with you guys.
About the bigfoot in my backyard or I call that
the monsters in my backyard. So keV, thanks to so
(26:14):
much for coming on. We really appreciate you coming on
and telling us about your book and all that other
stuff and your experiences, and we will have you on
probably in the future. Thank you, thank you so much,
and we will catch you guys on the next one.
Well, hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Back to another.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Deeps Paranormal podcast. Today, we have an amazing fellow bigfooter
and author, keV. He writes to the children's books about Bigfoot.
He's very into action adventure and uh he's a lifelong
bigfoot enthusiast. Uh. So we're gonna have him come on
here and talk about his book a little bit and
(00:55):
tell him us about himself and what got him into bigfooting. So,
with without any keb, would you please tell us about
what got you into big footing.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, hey, Matt, thanks for having me on the show.
So the initial I think bite of the bigfoot Bug
came back in about nineteen ninety five when the Internet
was just getting going, and one of the very first
websites I went on to was the BFO Bigfoot Field
Reacher's Organization website. From there, you know, it was really
(01:27):
any and all clips I could find involving Bigfoot. But
I would say possibly even before that, I gotta say
it was Harry and the Henderson's. I mean, that was
just such an epic movie with John Lithgow, and it
was just one of those movies that actually captured what
(01:48):
a lot of bigfoot experience and people who've had big
foot experiences. It's all about where a hunter will see
its eyes and then it's so human like where you
couldn't pull the trigger or you know, just having this
kind of connection with nature as it did with like
the Dog, if you will. But it just was one
of those movies where it it definitely I think led
(02:10):
to where I'm at now, which is just a full
blown big foot nerd, which is what I will call myself.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Awesome, awesome, Yeah, I love that movie. That movie first
came out, I was like, oh yeah, I gotta watch this.
Everybody's like, you gotta watch that movie.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
You're into big yep, nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So good, good movie.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yep. I wasn't a bigfoot believer then, but soon after
oh yeah, so yeah, that's right. Anyways, have you ever
had any encounters with bigfoots or seen a bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Or I've had a few class B encounters, Class B
meaning you know, heard got engraled at we had a
treat get knocked down on most and Alamos, New Mexico,
and then we also I mean heard heard the walking,
heard the lumbrius walking after the tree got knocked down.
(03:02):
But then also an interesting one was a little bit
I think unique in fact, was out in near mount
Hood area and what we captured on audio, which I
believe was a baby sasquatch blowing raspberries.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
In up in a tree.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So this was at night. There was a couple of
us I would say, maybe like five ish four people
tops maybe, but we were kind of going down this
trail with one of the like what pretty predominant bigfoot researcher.
This was his kind of territory. So we were going
(03:48):
down a trail and one of the fellows that I
was with kind of made a really loud knock. Everything
got real quiet, but then just this one tree started
creaking and swaying. No other tree was creaking or swaying.
We all kind of took pause and noticed it and
kind of almost formed a half circle around it just
(04:10):
where the trail line was. The other half this tree
was like just you know, out in the bush there,
but into some thickets. But we started looking at it,
and sure enough I started hearing this like like a
baby would do, blowing raspberries. And it was just one
(04:31):
of those things where I caught it on audio and
all the There was one woman there who was talking
in like a kid, you know, a very baby like voice,
and then there was four guys myself included. We said, okay,
we're gonna let you talk to this thing. We're gonna
move down the hill, you know, down this trail, and
(04:51):
she started bringing out all sorts of like baby She
just happened to have baby toys like on her, which
was miraculous.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, I was like, what is going on right now?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Like a slinky like a little rattle, baby rattle, and
I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
So, you know, that was that was the extent of it. This.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I was with a family member there and they said
that they were they caught like a heat signature way
up in the tree, but was very because of all
like the the branches and all sorts of stuff, like
it was real blobby, so you couldn't quite make it out.
But it was just the idea that this tree was creaking.
I heard this raspberries being blown everything else. Matt was
(05:34):
just silent in the forest, and I was like, you
had that feeling that mama or big brother or big
sister are perhaps around.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And like, you know, you just had that feeling.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But that was the Those are the two more exciting
times that I have had out there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That's crazy. That's crazy. I go down to a place
where I think there's juveniles, and I'm sure mom and
Dad are around somewhere.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You got to wonder, or at least like a babysitter.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, drop them off for the day and
go pick them up at night or whatever they're doing.
You stay here, you stand out well.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's kind of interesting because when we walked past that
same area, that same tree, on the way out to
kind of a different investigation point, and there was a
bar owl that had gone off, and candidly, I don't
I'm not an expert on barn owls, but this thing
(06:31):
sounded like R two D two with like a whistle
and a hoot and all sorts of things, and I
was like, what is that like? But my immediate sense
was like, oh my gosh, we're in this. We stepped
into some like den and we weren't supposed to be here.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And that was the alarm, if you will.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Right, this bigfoot researcher was like, Oh, it's just a
bar owl, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And I'm and it What I'm getting at is.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
They're so good at mimicking sounds, and it's like, how
do we know that that was a bard? That's what
later on, as I reflected on my experience, that's where
I was like, is that are you sure?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Are we sure that's a bar? Because that sounded crazy
for an owl to produce.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But anyway, yeah, yeah, and I've been out there. I've
heard him mimic coyotes. I've never really heard them do
an owl, but other birds. Ye, have you heard the
clicking the But they's like they're like snapping something together
te chump, maybe a tea chump, or maybe they're snapping
(07:35):
their fingers real quick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But I've not personally had that, but I am aware
that they will produce all sorts of sounds, which is
I had a buddy actually show me that if you
kind of go like oh with your mouth and like clap,
you could really get like a good, real, real timber sound.
And maybe that's what they're doingta out of a wood
(08:00):
knock perhaps.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, Yeah, I talked actually saw him do it. He
said it went like this, yeah, like you know, it popped.
It made a popping sound with its mouth. I've always
wondered if maybe that's what they're doing, because I've had
them happen feet from me and I'm looking around and
it's it's pitch block, of course, and I'm looking around.
I'm going, Okay, where did that just come from? I
(08:23):
came from defeet from me, and I'm like, there's no here.
I'm shining my light around. I'm like, there's nothing there.
Where did they just come from?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I know. It wasn't a woodennock, it was something else.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So, I mean, it's amazing. I was.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I was in Mexico one time, and you know, I verbally,
you know, obviously not verbally, but like I heard the
howling monkeys of Mexico and that to.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Me was like so loud, Yeah, I bet.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And the the fact that their throat and gorgeous itself,
like it's just like I I liken it to the
fact that because Bigfoot's to me, is most likely primate
of some kind, like it's got that extra muscle and
throat tissue to make some crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Sounds right right, all right, So tell us a little
bit about your book. What what got you into designing
a kid's book? And you know, wanting to kind of
teach kids.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I am. I really wanted to.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I mean selfishly, I always just I was thinking at
the time that that was the capacity at which I
could write a book where it had to be a
children's book, there had to be drawings, because that's that's
all I could produce. I am working on a young
adult's novel, so put that out there if anyone's interested.
But yeah, so this really was just a just a
(09:52):
love of creating a book about Bigfoot, where this young child, Billy,
has a love for the forest, has a love for adventure,
has a love for studying the leaves and the rocks
and the animals that he sees in the woods, and
(10:15):
he draws. He tries to draw pictures of all the
things that he does see, you know, But then trying
to also share some life lessons that I think are
just as important for adults, like really valuing what you
have in front of you and not taking things for granted.
That's a really hard lesson, I think, even for adults
(10:36):
to learn. But I wanted to try to get that
message out there earlier for children and trying to get
them understanding that, you know, life is a bit hard,
is a bit challenging. You might not always get what
you want, which is seeing a rare white fox, which
is actually what Billy is truly trying to find. But
(10:56):
instead someone or something comes along the way, like a bigfoot,
and that's the greatest mystery of all. Right, So that
was some of the lessons that I was trying to share,
But ultimately just I love to draw and I love
to create, and you know, I wanted to produce something
that was physical and tangible and I could pass on
(11:18):
and share and and if I'm reaching out to hopefully
the next generation of bigfooters, well then like that's that
I wanted that to be my target audience.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Right, And you know that next generation is going to
be the group that not only will they have a
lot more technology to you, oh my gosh, but they
will have a better chance of possibly getting documenting and
getting better evidence and hopefully protecting these things. Yeah, they're
not just killed. I mean in Texas, you in a
lot of states, you can kill bigfoot and it's murder
(11:51):
or anything they did just just you know, you can
do it. Yeah, there are people out there that do
go hunt bigfoot, and yeah, do you agree with that? No,
I don't. All right, my phone's going crazy here, but yeah, no,
I don't agree with that at all. I don't think
that people should be hunting them. Unfortunately, at some point,
we're going to have to produce our body. Yeah, like
(12:14):
I said, I don't want to get this is more
for kids, so I don't want to get into too
much details. But let's just say big Brother. I don't
believe Big Brother wants us to find out what's really
in the woods. So sure, Yeah, that's that's the scary
part about it. They'll they'll come in and take it
from you. If you actually did produce something real that
people could you know, physically say oh my gosh, it's real.
(12:38):
Science could actually take and do something with it and
go okay, yeah, okay, we now considered this to be
a real thing.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean that goes for any paranormal creature.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
But yeah, there's definitely some I don't even know if
you want to call them conspiracy theories, but there are
theories that the militarity knows of them, especially with the
eruption of Mount Saint Helens, that there were bodies discovered
from that eruption that the military, you know, was trying
to cover up. There's been so many stories and not
(13:13):
so many perhaps, but like there's definitely stories about black
ops coming in with the helicopters as someone has just
had a big foot sighting. So yeah, it's and as
far as the science, like I think there's science out
there that already proves that they're real, such as you know,
Jeff Meldrem out there showing that they're what what a
(13:35):
single track could provide as far as the locomotion of
the foot and everything like that, but we're just.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Not it's just not accepted yet.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So yeah, so hopefully the next generation really with the
technology that you mentioned that is coming in, it's think
of all the drone technology or you know, as infrared
becomes cheaper. I mean I remember when this was like
you couldn't even get a flur for less than like
ten grand, and now they're only like what a couple
hundred bucks, Like that's that's not that bad.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, Well, some of the military technology out there I have.
I've met several dozens and dozens of military personnel that
are interested in this, and a lot of them start
out with me and then quickly back off and disappear
because their superiors say Oh no, you're not supposed to
be doing that. But the technology brought to me and
(14:25):
shown me it is insane in the military has so
much clear Oh yeah, Claire's day. I mean you can
see thousand feet. You can see Claire's day. It looks
just like they with the night vision technology have and
the fleir stuff they have. Oh, I mean it's it's
millions of dollars worth of technology. I mean cameras that
are one hundred thousand dollars if they're use out in
(14:47):
the field. But you can see, you know, at least
a thousand feet if not more, right through trees, right
through all that stuff. You can see exactly where everything is.
And the drones that they have. Yeah, I mean if
they really wanted to you, I mean, it would be
really easy to prove big if it exists at this
point in time, if we could get the technology that
they have, I mean, wee, we've got to flyover and
(15:10):
you oh, yep, there they are, you can see them.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But yeah, So what areas do you research? If you
have a research location, I mean, what states? Or do
you stay in one spot or you do you move around?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I move around, not necessarily by choice, so being in
the Midwest here, you know, you can go to Illinois,
you can go to Wisconsin. They're up in northern Minnesota.
It's really I mean, so where I've gone to answer
your question has been predominantly the Oregon area mount Hood
(15:53):
give for Pinchot out of Washington. I've also gone to
again Los Alamos out of New Mexico, to an expedition
out of the Sam Houston National Park in Texas. So
and it's like, you wouldn't think that they'd be so
close to Houston, but you know that there's some reports there.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
As well as Iowa.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And so now I think my next couple of journeys
might be out east, but kind of all over and
you know it, it doesn't really matter, you know, for
your audience and perhaps those who are just tuning in it.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It doesn't necessarily matter. You don't necessarily have to live
in the forest.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You could have an experience just taking out your trash,
is what I always kind of like to say. It
just depending upon the right area, if there's a food source,
if there's shelter, if there's water, anything that could basically
house a large ish animal, uh, they're most likely there.
And sometimes I find it super hard to believe that
(16:58):
anything is you know, anything is perhaps in a very
flat area or non forested, but there are reports come
out of say like the Dakota's where it's super flat,
there's no forest or nothing, but yet they're there.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So it's kind of nuts, right, Well, it's going back
to Houston. Yeah, a lot of people still report bigfoots
in Houston. It's amazing. I mean I talked to a guy.
He lives not in downtown Houston, but he lives on
the outskirts in a forest or on where he lives.
I mean, Houston's very forested. People don't realize fort right, Yeah, still,
I mean Houston. They this whole half of Texas where
(17:35):
I live. I live in the Brian College Station area,
but it's about ninety minutes from Houston. We're northwest of Houston, Texas.
In half this half of Texas is very forested away
from the coast all the way up to the Panhandle,
and it's very very filled with bigfoots. But yet you
(17:55):
go down into that area. Even in Houston, even in
rural areas and even around where I live, there's bigfoot reports.
I mean, I have something in my backyard I don't
know what it is. I put a podcast out about
it the other day. Monsters in my backyard. I don't
know what it is, but with a big amber eyes.
But yeah, I mean yeah, they're there everywhere. They can
(18:15):
live anywhere. I mean they can literally people talk about
them dumpster diving and stuff like that. Right, Ye, parks,
they see them come in and steal food out of
the out of the camps. They come into camps sometimes,
ye steal food out of people's lunch boxes or coolers
or whatever. You know. So anyways, but yeah, let's see.
(18:39):
So what evidence have you guys been able to find.
I talked about earlier about hearing some audio evidence. Have
you found anything else besides audio evens?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So we have found h footprints, but nothing is as
you know, the holy Grail of footprints as some of
those casts that are already out there, you know in
circulation and pictures and things like that. You know, it's
really hard to get dermal ridges as evidence. That's you
(19:09):
got to have the right mud. You literally need to
be on the tracks of that bigfoot to kind of
get that type of detail. So candidly, nothing like that.
To circle back, dermal ridges are like the fingerprints of
like your fingertips or your toes, just for those who
might not be familiar with that term. But other than footprint,
(19:29):
everything's been either trees got knocked down, we again growled at,
or there was a stone or rock. This was a
large rock thrown through the trees again near the mount
Hood area. And the other one that I would say
is still like on the questionable side, is what the
(19:52):
big glowing amber orbs that tend to be in the
same area are, because I've experienced that twice, one of
which was in sam Houston, the other one was in
Los Animals. But that I you know, I'm not seeing
uh sasquatch produce that, So I don't know if I
can correlate those two or not.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right, Yeah, it's just some kind of energy. In my research,
I found out that basically almost everywhere bigfoots are, there's
UFO sidings, there's ghosts hunting the ghosts in that area too.
I mean people don't the same Houston National Forest is
also haunted. Yeah, so UFO reports in that area. So
(20:34):
I mean you just go to the Seriatarago ghost lights.
I guess what else is there? Bigfoot? Yeah, and that's
you know, in the same area.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And do you I mean, for your for your viewpoint, Matt,
do you think that there's correlation there?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Are they all?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I don't know, starting to find that the three four
maybe dog Man is even in that area sometimes and
start to put other encryptid creatures into that area too.
It's just like, all this stuff is happening in these
same areas. What is up with that? I mean, like
I used to go to a place called Black Star
Canyon out in Santama Mountains out in California in the
(21:13):
Cleveland National Forest. Yeah, there was bigfoot sightings. I had
a lot of big foot sightings out there, had multiple
encounters with them out there daytime time ORBS sightings.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You've had sights.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Sightings, yeah, well close encounters unfortunately, well fortunately, but unfortunately
someone were scary, Yeah, Shatto people, black you know block Yeah,
there was. The Lady in White was seen out there
often a lot of ghost sighting. We did a lot
of ghost hanging out there, and then UFO sightings. So
(21:47):
I mean that place is just it's just the more
the more you do the research, it's like the more
you start to go, Okay, wait, are all these things
kind of like wrapped in together, bigfoot UFOs ghosts are
they all? You know? I got to the point where
I got to a relationship with the ghosts at Black
Star Kingyon and they would let my kt And I
know a lot of people don't take KT's too seriously,
(22:09):
but there's no EMF out there. There's no electricity out there.
It's just open. It's just a big open area, no power,
no nothing. Cell Phones usually were turned off because they
would get drained if they weren't turned off. And so
they're letting up the KTU. I'm like, have you seen
a big Harry creature out here tonight? As stupid as
that sounds, light up and it's like okay, and then
(22:30):
you hear like a tree knock here, yeah, oh yep, yep,
there they are.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So yeah, I'm just starting to wonderful all that stuff
kind of misses and mashes together.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
So I mean, yeah, I would say that they they do.
I mean I think that's some I mean the energy
aspect of it. I mean, this is where you know,
I think that there's plenty of literature out there that
kind of describes this. I mean I kind of am
(23:04):
thinking of like the giants, cannibals, and monsters like Bigfoot
in Native Culture by Kathy Moskowitz. You know, that to
me is a very good book. I mean it talks
more so about the lure of it, but that book
in particular really goes well into like just the history, frankly,
of where bigfoots and culture has come from, especially for
(23:25):
the Native Americans or Indians, and you know, it's.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Always been here.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Is kind of the is kind of always the narrative,
just like spirits, perhaps just like aliens. I mean, it's
those things probably terrifying me more than a bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
But I always want to get scared by a ghost.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's and the clingers are horrible. You
don't want to deal with them.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh boy, So what are your future bigfoot plans? What
are you are? You? Do you have any expeditions coming
up that you can talk about or.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I mean, I want to do some more research in
Wisconsin area, but then obviously get more out east. You know,
I've got a friend out there who's near like the
main New Hampshire area and so some of the Blue
Ridge Mountains over there, and so I guess that's it
(24:22):
would be interesting kind of get the take on the
East Coast and I think that's from Headed Next Awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Well that sounds awesome, all right, cool, Well, do you
have anything else you want to share with us before
we go?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I mean, if I could give a quick plug on
where you can find me. Yeah, so you can find
me at Pine Shadow Design. That's my Instagram handle. You
can also look at some of the designs and bigfoot
things that I have going on on my Etsy shop again,
Pine Shadow Design.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Definitely try to find my book Billy Finds Bigfoot. You
can find that a hanger on publishing dot Com or Amazon. Yeah,
that's reach out, say hi and get connected.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Definitely. And I have a neighbor next door. He's five
years old. He's all in the Bigfoot. I'm gonna actually
buy him that book.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It'll be fun for him because he's always talking to
me about going big footing. And I think he might
be just a little too young because I don't want
him to get scared. The book would be probably perfect
for him to start out with and kind of maybe
start to learn a little bit. But he knows about
tree knocks and all this other stuff and he's really
into it. So anyways, well, thank you so much for
(25:32):
coming on. His links will be down below, guys to
all his sites and stuff like that, so we will
be publishing that in our description. So if you guys
have any questions about his books, where he can get
his book, or if you want to contact him, or
even buy a shirt or some cool stuff that he has.
He has some really cool designs and stuff, some hats
(25:52):
and stuff like that, feel free to go down there
and check out his store and we will basically be
publishing that for you guys to see. And if you
guys like this video, go back and watch my video
up here and we'll be sharing that with you guys.
About the bigfoot in my backyard or I call that
the monsters in my backyard. So keV, thanks to so
(26:14):
much for coming on. We really appreciate you coming on
and telling us about your book and all that other
stuff and your experiences, and we will have you on
probably in the future. Thank you, thank you so much,
and we will catch you guys on the next one.
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