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November 11, 2025 42 mins
In this all-new Deep Woods Paranormal special, Matt explores the darker side of folklore and paranormal history. From desert shapeshifters to eerie modern encounters, these stories blur the line between legend and reality.

Journey into the unknown with:
🐺 Skinwalkers – Navajo shapeshifters feared for generations
💥 The Bell Island Boom – a mysterious explosion that defied all science
👽 The Flatwoods Monster – a terrifying 1952 UFO encounter in West Virginia
🦦 The Kushtaka – Alaskan otter-men who lure travelers to icy deaths
👻 The Lady in White – spectral women haunting America’s roads and bridges
🩳 The Fresno Nightcrawlers – bizarre “walking pants” caught on camera
⚡ The Thunderbird – sky spirits that battle serpents in ancient legend
🖤 The Black-Eyed Children – chilling modern urban horror

These tales combine ancient mythology, real-world encounters, and paranormal research, bringing centuries of mystery to life.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome back to another
Deep Bod's Paranormal podcast. My name is Matt Harvey. I
am the founder and lead investigator with Deep Woods Paranormal.
I am also the host of the Deep Wood's Paranormal Podcast,
where we are making the paranormal normal. All right, so
let's continue on with our last folklore podcast, What connects

(00:28):
shape shifters, sky monsters, and mysterious children who knock on
your door at night as we will continue on exploring
the strangest folklore and modern myths that blur the line
between reality and the unknown. All right. On this volume,
we are going to be talking about skin walkers. We're
also going to be talking about Bell Island Boom, the flatworms, monster,

(00:55):
the Kusha ka I'm sorry, Kushtaka Lady in White. We
know several of those from both San Juan Capistrano and
Black Star Kane and other places. The Fresno nightcrawlers, that's
an interesting one, Thunderbird, which I've been looking into lately.
And then black eyed children. All right, so let's get

(01:17):
into this. So let's start with the skin walkers. In
Navajo culture, a skin walker is a type of malevolent
witch or sorcerer who has the ability to shape shift
into possess or disguise themselves as almost I'm sorry, as
an animal, most commonly a kyo, a wolf of fox,

(01:38):
a bear now or cow I'm sorry crow. They represent
the Navajo nation culture values and use their powers for
evil purposes. All right, well that sounds interesting, Okay, So
I've heard about these guys for a long time. I
believe that you have to be like a medicine man,

(02:00):
and you have to be practicing different types of magic
that the Indians don't normally do, and you have to
do terrible things to become a skin walker. So it's
its origins. A person becomes a skin walker by choosing
to practice dark magic, often after undergoing a forbidden initiation

(02:23):
ritual that requires committing an atrocious act, such as a
murder of a close family member. These individuals were sometimes
once respected healers or medicine people who became corrupted corrupted
by power. That sounds pretty creepy, okay. So the abilities

(02:43):
beyond shape shifting, skin walkers are said to possess a
range of supernatural powers, including mimicry. They can perfect, they
can perfect that perfectively. Okay, forget it. Intimidate talk now.
They can perfectly imitate the voices of animals and humans

(03:06):
to lure victims into danger. We just talked about something
like this the other day where something was calling to
a hunter trying to possibly lure him to his death.
Maybe it was one of these guys. Superhuman capabilities. They
have enhanced speed, strength and agility, mind control and cursing.
Cursing like they can curse somebody. They can place curses

(03:29):
on people and control their minds, sometimes by making eye contact.
So it says corpse powder. Some legends mentioned them and
using a toxic toxic cork corpse power made from grown
humans infant bones to paralyze or kill victims. Bear with
me one second, I'm may get a sup of my drink. Okay.

(03:54):
They do have vulnerabilities. According to a legend, they can
be killed if their true human name is spoken aloud,
which causes them to sicken and die within a few days.
But it can also be wardened off with a bullet
or knife dipped in white ash. So the legend of

(04:14):
skinwashing skin Walker is deeply embedded and seriously part of
the Navajo tradition, serving as a cautionary tale about mony
monetary and the consequences of misguided sackers by sacred knowledge.
Excuse me. Traditional Navajos are often very reluctant to discuss

(04:36):
the length of the legend without outside with outsiders, due
to the cultural taboos and fear of attracting their own
their attention. Sharing these stories in disrespectful ways or out
of contest is considered culturally inappropriate, which can be offensive
to the Navajo people. So yeah, I mean, these people

(04:59):
were probably you know, a very well respected elder, and
then they became they for some reason or other, they
became corrupt, and they you know, decided to get into
this this magic and you know, go off and possibly
kill some people that were probably part of their family,

(05:21):
and you know, then became very feared because they have
these powers. And imagine, you know, with a culture like that,
that things, you know, if you're a non believer, can
may be mistaken. Maybe people think they see things, maybe
they've heard stories that it's in their heads, or maybe

(05:41):
it's true. Maybe they can actually change into something else,
you know, if you follow what's going on that area.
Fifty one people see them in a couple of other places,
I'm not going to mention skin walkers are huge in
that area and especially in the Four Corner States. They're

(06:02):
seeing a lot out there. They're also seen across the country.
So you know, what are your thoughts on this? And
I leave your comment down below. Please be respectful though. Okay, guys,
this is a family channel. So all right, let's go
onto the Bell Island boom, which was a mysterious and
powerful phantom explosion that took that shook Bell Island to Finland,

(06:23):
Canada on April tecond nineteen seventy eight. About an apparent
conventional cause. The event was part of a seriously unexplained
mystery of booms along the native the North American Atlantic
coast that winner caused Pacific significantly physical damage and general
generated numerous theories, ranging from natural phenomenon to secret military

(06:46):
weapons testing. All right, so real quick, okay, so details
of the event. So you guys are about this kind
of as I am. So, at around eleven am on
a quiet Saturday morning, residents heard a tremendous boom was

(07:08):
described by wilderness witnesses as a louder than a shotgun blast,
a naval gun, or a parachute mine. The shockwave was
felt up to one hundred kilometers sixty miles away in
Saint John's and other mainland communities. That's strange. An instant
caused a bizarre electrical phenomenon and damaged one of the

(07:32):
specific locations in Leland's Cove where it was seemed to
be centered. So there was electrical surges. Blue flames shot
out eighteen inches out of electric sockets. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay,
something just moved on my desk. That was very strange. Okay,

(07:55):
we're gonna continue. Something's messing stuff on my all right,
I'm not moving. Something's moving the lamp on my desk. Okay,
Wei shout that on camera for you guys. Uh, okay,
So electrical blah blah blah blah. Okay, So electrical shot
us eighten inches out of electrical sockets. Television exploded, Uh,

(08:17):
television is exploded and charred ruins and fuses were reportedly
shot across the room like bullets. So if you've ever
seen those little fuses that stick into the wall into
a little socket that basically keeps your electronics from basically frying,
it trips when there's too much electricity going through that's

(08:38):
what that is physical damage. A chicken coop is destroyed,
killing the hens inside, and a barn was blown apart
with no signs of scorching. It's strange. Ground disturbances. Three
cone shaped holes two feet deep and several feet wide
are found in the ground. Eyewitness accounts. One twelve year

(08:58):
old boy reported seeing a beautiful swirling ball of light
appear and then vanish intinto thin air, just as the
main shock, which was also seen or witnessed by others
from the mainland. Okay, So investigation in the theories. The
mysterious nature of the boom led to the various explanations.

(09:22):
Super bolt of lightning one of the most wide one
of the most widely accepted scientific explanations. For my non believers,
they say it was a super Bowl. Super Bowls are
extremely rare, made up of less a point zero one
percent of all lightning, and powerful, powerful form of positive

(09:44):
lightning many times more electronic, i'm sorry, energetic than typical
negative lightning. So that's interesting. Okay. Ball lightning an eyewitness
account of a hovering, swirling globe of light and then
a true due to ball lightning and an even rarer
event and still poorly understood atmospheric electronical phenomenon that sometimes

(10:08):
occurs after a lightning strike. Conspiracy theorists here, you guys, go,
here's my conspiracy theory. People. The involvement of the Los
al Most scientists and the Cold War backdrop fueled speculation
that the event was a secret military test gone wrong oooh,
big brother, possibly involving electronic magnetic pulse or an EMP

(10:33):
weapon or Soviet radio waves and interacting with the islands
of vast iron or deposits so that just means metal
under the ground. Uh. These theories were largely dismissed by
skeptics and scientists due to lack of evidence. Oh of course. Yeah, okay,
So for my believers or my you know, conspiracy theorists

(10:54):
like me, yeah, uh huh. What if it was an
alien What if it was an alien ship? Now? I
heard for this one. I heard that possibly an alien
ship had actually crashed into the water right off the coast,
and when it hit it should it basically went under
the water, so there was no evidence and essentially that

(11:15):
that's what caused all this and maybe it blew up
underwater or something because they were dredging for stuff and
recovering multiple things in the off the coast. But anyways,
that's just my story and that's what I'm sticking to,
all right, all right, so let's talk about the flat
Worm Monster. I'm sorry. The flat Woods Monster, also known

(11:38):
as the Bras County Monster Bracts are Phantom of flat Woods,
is a largely legendary creature from the West Virginia's folklore,
first reported siding on September twelfth, nineteen fifty two, after
a right object was seen streaking across this night sky. Okay,

(12:00):
maybe in the alien, maybe a UFO, who knows. Okay,
so let's get into this, like again, this is another
one I've never heard of. If you guys have heard
of this stuff, you know, please calm down below tell
me about it. I'd love to hear about it, all right.
So the encounter on the evening of the twelfth of
September nineteen fifty two, a witness in flat Woods, West
Virginia saw a bright object land on a nearby hill.

(12:24):
A group including Kathleen May and Eugene Lemon investigated, finding
a pursuerson of that pulseating light, a sickening out odor,
and an towering manlike creature that hissed and glided towards
them before he fled. Interesting description of the monster. Witnesses

(12:48):
consistently described the creature as a very large about ten
feet tall or three meters tall, with an ace of
speeds or heart shaped head featuring large blowing eyes. Its
body has green with green possibly covered by dark metallic
skin or robe. Reports varied of its arms, and it

(13:09):
was and it was said to levity or glided silently. Interesting. Okay, Okay.
Investigations and explanations here, you guys go. Investigations by local
authorities and the Air Force found no evidence of the
creature or a crash. Skeptics suggest the sighting was a

(13:30):
combination of a meteor and a stalled barnow circled barn owl,
with the owl's eyes reflecting light. A particular publisher did
not find skid marks, I'm sorry. A local publisher did
find skid marks and a gummy deposit which attributed to
a landing craft. Interesting. Okay, So legend the Flatwood Monster

(13:54):
remains a popular part of West Virginia folklore. Flat Woods
is no own for the home of the Garden of
the Green Monster, with the museum dedicated to legends and
monster tam chairs throughout the county, place throughout the county. Okay,
So that's interesting. I wonder, you know, could it be

(14:15):
some kind of alien or is it something else? You know?
Was it a bar? Now you guys have to decide that.
Let's move on to the next one. All right, I mean,
hopefully I pronounced this one right, but bear with me
if I don't, I apologize for butchering this. The Kushtaka

(14:40):
or land otter man is a shape shifting creature from
the folklore of the to ling It and the shimmying
indigenous people of southeast southeastern Alaska. And again I apologize
if I totally mis pronounced all that. The myth serves
both as a cautionary tale to keep children away from

(15:02):
dangerous waters and an explanation for people who mysteriously disappear
in the wilderness. Now again, if you heard me tell
my Bigfoot stories, you've heard me say, you know that
I was told that because we did have we didn't
have really woods fire house, we had orange groves, and
unfortunately we found out later on that there was somebody

(15:24):
in there that was doing bad things to kids and
other people. But I was always told that Bigfoot was
basically a story people told to keep you know, kids
out of the forest tonight. So anyways, and that turned
out in my in my experience, that turned out to
be real. Uh so, I mean Bigfoot's turned out to

(15:45):
be real. Now again for my skeptics, people on the
fence and people who don't believe. And then you know,
you can believe whatever we want. Again, you guys have
to have your own experiences with those things and really
have to have an experience to believe. So anyways, description
and abilities. So the parents the Kushtaka are shape shifters

(16:06):
that can transform between human and other forms. So this
sounds a little bit like the skin walker, right, Okay,
so their appearance in human form varies, but in creature form,
they are sometimes described as having a human face and
an odd body, or resembling a large, hairy, bipedal creature
like Bigfoot. Well that's interesting, so maybe it's a Bigfoot.

(16:32):
Okay descriptions sorry. Deceptive cries. They are known for mimicking
cries of babies or the screams of a woman in distress. Now, okay,
so I know barn ol does make that noise because
I've heard it about black sarcane and that scream sounds
like a woman being horribly you know, you know, something

(16:56):
bad happening to it. Let's just call it that way.
I don't want to get into too much detail. But anyways,
it's horrible. It's a horrible sound, and uh, I don't know,
it's just anyway, it's so wonder if maybe it's a misrepresentation. Okay,
So this lures unsuspecting victims typical typically women and children,
towards the river and the forest. Ooh, that's interesting. Okay,

(17:19):
So again that sounds like a skinwalker ring. Okay, so
mixed motives. The kushtaka can either be malevolent or malevolent. Okay,
so malevolent meaning Some stories portray the kushwaka kushtaka excuse
me as a cruel being who drowns their victims or

(17:41):
tears them into shreds. Ooh, that's not good, or they
can be belevolent. In other tales, the kushtaka save drowning
or freezing individuals by transforming them into one of their
own kind, which is a mixed blessing. The person survives,
but they also lose they're humanity and identity. Preventing them

(18:02):
from being reincarnated as a human. Okay, so protection from
the kushtaka. According to legends, certain items can be sorry,
certain items and methods can ward off these creatures. So
if you have a fire going, they seem to be
afraid of the fire copper. This is a metal that

(18:25):
thought to have protective qualities against the ottermen. Urine and
some tails. Urine is said to be effected to repel them. Okay,
and dogs. The Koushtaka are terrified of dogs and they're barking,
so a canine communion provides protection. Okay, so that's interesting.

(18:46):
So I know, like what we're experiencing here. When Shorty
he's very sensitive to the paranormal. He picks up on ghosts.
He can see things. I know he can. I don't
know if you guys have a dog can see ghosts
or anything else, but uh, they seem to be. Some
dogs seem to be more in tune, and other animals too,

(19:07):
cats too, But this dog seems to be more in
tune with seeing spirits. And then usually I when I
see something, he's something sees something too. I think Zeus
also does too. I think Zeus he's ghosts as well.
But when he goes out, he sits back there and
he'll walk over and he'll sit on the little hill
there looking out under the forest. And he doesn't do

(19:28):
it all the time. It's usually later at night, but
he'll sit there and bark. And there's usually people that
walk down the path over there by the school. But
he is like bark, bark, bark, bark at the forest.
He's not barking. There's nobody walking by. There's nobody over there.
Because I sit there and watch with him, I kind
of stand back and I don't see anything, but there's
usually I have seen something at the edge of the forest.

(19:50):
I mean at that the edge of the tree line,
and that's I know, that's how bigfoots operate. So I
don't know what it is that he's barking. I can't
say what it is, but I know there's definitely something
going on over there. He's screaming at it like that. Anyways, So, yeah,
dogs have been known to be aggressive towards anything that
could possibly hurt their owners, and I think that might

(20:11):
be part of the reason this thing's afraid of people. Okay,
So the Kushtaka legends is an ancient part of the
spiritual and cultural landscape of the Tingling people. Ting It
ting it people, excuse me. It reflects a deep connection
to Alaskan wilderness and understanding of its potential danger, both

(20:33):
seen and unseen. So that's interesting. Okay, this sounds like
a really interesting creature. I would honestly contribute it maybe
to maybe a Bigfoot, or maybe it's their version of
a Bigfoot. So all right, let's move on the lady
in White America's Phantom Women. And there's a lot of

(20:55):
ladies in White Ghost scene all over the world, but
they're just kind of talking about, you know, in general,
the women from the United States. Now, before I get
into this, h there was a tale of a woman
who lived in San Juan Capistrano with her husband. He
was the mayor of the of the city back back

(21:18):
in when the mission was operating and stuff, and she
got mad because he cheated on her, and they had
two kids and they she basically went and drowned them
in the river. Right. I always thought that river was
down in San Juan Capistrano. Nope, it was up in
Black Star Canyon in the Tribuca Canyon Black Star Canyon area,

(21:41):
and She's also seen in multiplications, and the kids are too.
They're seeing no Pulpons San Juan Capistranto and Black Star Canyon.
She might be seen somewhere else too, But that's the
only lady in white I really can you know, talk
talk about that I know of? So okay, let's talk
about the leading white area in general. So well. Lady
and White is a prominent figure in American and global folklore,

(22:04):
representing a common act our act type of a female ghost,
often also referred to as America's phantom woman women excuse me.
These legends share core themes of tragedy, loss, unresolved grief,
and with local variations across the country. So yeah, I

(22:26):
mean the Lady and White that I've seen. She always
is in some kind of a white dress, sometimes on bubble,
and she floats along the creek sometimes too, and she's
very protective of kids. Okay, So let's talk about the
common themes across different American legends. Several common threads emerge.

(22:47):
Tragic death. The spirit is let's see, the spirit is
invariable that of a woman who suffers untimely and often
and violent deaths such as murders, side or accident. Now
the lady in White I believe she went back. I
think she did, don't know if she committed suicide. I
can't remember the story exactly, So if you guys want

(23:09):
to look it up and you know, put it in
the comments, I'd love to hear about it. Okay, the
trailer loss again, this goes to the lady one I
know of her existence is a ghost is typically tied
to the painful loss, often involving behavior of betrayal I

(23:29):
can't talk today, often involving a betraying husband or fiance,
or the death of the disappearance of her children. I
was just totally describing the wedding one I know. So
she's searching or wandering again, same thing. The lady why
is often seen endlessly searching for a lost loved one,
like a child or a partner, seeking justice for the

(23:51):
wrong done to her. I actually take that back. There's
another place I know, but land I'm white. Well, we're
not going to get into that because it's a good
too long. So locations specific hauntings. Separations are usually linked
to the specific locations where the tragedy occurred, such as
roadside cemeteries or old estates or nearby bodies of the water.

(24:14):
So that's very interesting. This hits us totally on the head. Okay,
apparents are interactions. She's almost always seen in a flowing
white garment there you go, often a wedding dress there
you go, or a night gownt symbolizing purity or her
tragic transformation. She may suddenly appear as a silent hitchhiker

(24:34):
advantishes from a moving car, or as a weeping figure
wandering at the area. So the Lady in White that
is a black Star Canyon is supposedly the one that
screams bloody murderer. Now again we don't know if that's
a bar. Now that's not an Orange County, California. If
you're an Orange County, California and you've gone up there

(24:56):
and you probably know about the Lady White. Okay, So
I'm not going to get into all these, but they
they're naming specific ladies in White. And we've talked about
Resurrection Mary, the Lady of White and Union Cemetery, the
Lady of White Rock Lake that's in Dallas, Texas. I
actually I have not been there yet, so I have

(25:18):
to put that on my bucket list. The Lady and
White of Drawn at State Park that's in New York.
The Lady of White of Blomsey Mountain that's in Pennsylvania. Okay,
all right, so we'll get If you guys want to
know more about the Ladies and White, we can do
a whole podcast on that. Comment down below. Let me
know if you want to hear about that. All right,
So let's move on to the Fresno Nightcrawlers. Now, I

(25:41):
can't remember the name of that show, but there was
a show that basically debunked tried to debunk things. It
wasn't Ghost Hunters. It was another show that was really popular,
came out after Destination Truth or whatever, and I watched
that heck out of that show. I really liked that
show because I really liked how they tried to figure
out what it could be instead of, you know, paranormal.

(26:03):
So that really got me into the Fresno Nightcrawlers. I've
kind of done a couple of podcasts on this, but
we'll get kind of dive back into this. So the
Fresno Night Crawlers, also known as the Walking Pants, are
a particular cryptid first documented in a grainy home so
Greeleance footage in Fresnoe, California in two thousand and seven.

(26:24):
I think you guys can go on to YouTube or
wherever you watch your videos from you could possibly find
that video. It's not the greatest video, it's actually what
he did was and the reason is so grainy is
because he had a surveillance camera out on his property
and these things literally like look like a almost like

(26:44):
two stilts walking by with a little tiny body on
the top. Imagine a mouse on you know, three or
foot four foot stilts walking across your lawn, and that's
basically what kind of looks like. And then you know,
he based recorded to his DVR. I don't think he
knew how to get it off the DVR, which back

(27:05):
in the day we had three of them and they
were impossible to get evidence off of because they were
so it was just the technology wasn't there at that
point in time. Now it's real simple to get technology
off off of those things. In fact, we use it
still when we do bigfoot research or ghost hunting. But anyways,

(27:27):
so what he did was he had you know, I
don't know if a lot of the audience out there
knows what this is, but some of you will. The
old screen TVs that Key used to come with us.
They were big box, you know, big thick box. So
he actually recorded with another camera the actual video off
the screen of his DVR system, and that's how he

(27:49):
basically got the footage. And so when you record anything
like that, especially with older technology from like let's say
the nineties or before that. Even then in the two thousands,
the quality just wasn't nearly as much as it is today.
I mean from the two thousands on the technology that

(28:09):
we're we have, I mean that you know that non
military have was really upgraded. I mean it's really gotten
a lot better. I mean, we have really great, you know,
cameras on our phones now. So, but the technology back
then was just so bad that he wasn't able to
get a real good video. So if you go to
watch that video, I'm sorry, it's just really old video,

(28:31):
especially if you're not used to looking at stuff like that.
If you're like in your forties or older, you'll go, okay, yeah,
But if you're maybe in your in your thirties or younger,
you're gonna look at that and go, this is terrible video. Anyways,
in the video, he captured two thin, white, human like
humanoid figures with long legs and no simple no no

(28:54):
arms or tosho are seen walking across the front lawn.
The creature strange. Wallgate earns them the name the Walking Pants. Okay,
so key characteristics appearents. They are described as a pale,
ghostly creature approximately four feet tall, with long, still white
legs and no arms. Behavior. The video footage and subsequent

(29:19):
reports sightings say the night crawlers are docile, non threatening
creatures with simple strolling They just basically stroll by. So
they were first sighted in Fresno, but I have subsequently
but have been There's been reports of similar creatures in

(29:39):
California's Yosemite National Park, as also in Portland and Montana. Okay,
so other theories. The president night colors have been inspired
several theories regarding their origin, so they could be an
alien species. Due to their unusual appearance, some speculate that

(30:02):
their actual directorial beings uh, noting the history of UFO
sightings in California, they're some kind of cryptid I know.
The theory is that they're reckless animal species unknown to science,
similar to big photo block, nest monster or three you know,
for my non believers out there, they're hopes. You know.

(30:25):
The most common theories is the foot the footage is
a clever hoax created with puppets or computer generated imagery.
I don't think that's real. I don't think this was
This is definitely not AI because this was taken back
so long ago a I was, you know, only military
at that point. So filmmakers have even demonstrated how the

(30:45):
phenomena could be faked by editing out the upper portion
of the person's body, which is true. They had the
technology like that back then. They I mean, they could
have done it. But I mean, if you watch that,
I think it's called fact or faked. You watch that show.
They tried to debunk it. They tried to figure it out,
and I don't think they were able to. And then

(31:06):
they have their own experiences, which again it's a TV show,
so I mean, who knows. Anyways, So the first sighting
of them took back place in two thousand and seven.
I already talked about that. Okay, So when the homeowner
named George I'm sorry Jose discovered the figures on his
security cameras after his dogs began barking late at night

(31:31):
he shared the tape with a paranormal investigator in the store,
eventually attracted widespread attention when investigators from the sky a
sci fi oh yeah it is so factor faked files
attempted to definitively defunct the video. They were enable to
recreate the creature's unusual gait. Basically, this left the Nightcrawlers

(31:52):
exist in an open question for many. All right, so yeah,
I mean people think that they could be some kind
of plush toil or apparel. You know, who knows? I
mean again, you guys gotta make up your own mind
on this stuff. Who knows if it's real or not.
Only the people that basically produced the video really know

(32:15):
if it was it was real. So again, you know,
butcher comes down below. Is it real? Are they real?
Are they really a creature? Or where was it faked?
I don't know. Up to you guys decide. Please be
courteous to each other in the comments. Don't be a mean.
Everybody has the right to their own, you know, theories
and ideas. Oh on one second, let me get one

(32:35):
more drink here, all right? All right, So the thunderbirds
and sky serpents, the battles in the heavens. All right,
So this is likely a title used to describe as
specific a specific telling or compilation of very various natives

(33:00):
Native American miss the title refers to a common monof
monif in mythology of North American indigenous people, particularly different
tribes were thought to be where the powerful thunderbird's spirit
of upper world is a blah blah blah. Okay, so

(33:24):
basically they're saying it's it's They go into a lot
of words, and it doesn't really make a lot of sense.
They're basically saying it's a it's a tribal tradition. I
think it's basically they worship the thunderbird as a gone
or something. Anyways, and I apologize if I misunderstood that,

(33:45):
but all right. So these epic battles are central to
many oral traditions and serve to explain natural phenomenon. The
flapping of the thunderbolts wings created thunder, and the flashing
of its eyes or the cast of light from its
talents created lightning, which it uses to strike the water spirits, okay,

(34:08):
symbolizing balance. The conflict represents the balance and tensions between
the upper world and the lower world, and the sky
and the water, okay, acting as a protector. In many
stories of thunderbird is a belevolent protector of humanity, fighting
the dangerous water spirits to prevent them from overrunning the

(34:29):
earth and devouring the people. In part moral lessons, Some
traditions also state that the thunderbird is representative of or
pushing humans who break moral or tribal laws, or punishing
excuse me, all right, so you know thunderbirds realistically, if

(34:53):
you look at what, I'm going to get religious on
you guys, And I apologize if you're not wanting to
hear this part, just tune out for a second or
two here. But if you're religious and you believe in
angels or positive entities or whatever, people don't realize that
angels don't look like they don't they don't look human, right, Okay,

(35:15):
So if you read the book, you'll you'll see in
many taste times that angels are scary looking. They're not
like what we think they are. I mean, when you
see pictures of angels and books and stuff like that, yes,
they can appear like that. Mainly they're probably just not
scare people, right, But the higher up angels a lot

(35:40):
of the big time angels, Michael and then those other angels.
They don't look like humans. They look scarier, they're bigger,
they're large, they're you know, they have multiple wings and
stuff like that. So who's to say this isn't Maybe
they weren't seeing an angel of some sort, and maybe
they are fighting some kind of demon and maybe they

(36:02):
did have you know, bolts of lightning come out of
their eyes and stuff like that. Maybe that's the way
they fight. Who knows, right, So, I mean, this could
be possibly a fight between the good, good and bad,
or it could just be something that was misunderstood. Now
I'm going to go to you know, the non believers

(36:22):
and people on the fence. You know, it could just
be the way that they described lightning and thunder. Maybe
they just didn't understand it, or maybe they you know,
they have a different way of explaining it. So yeah,
I mean, it could be either way. Again, just you know,
just my thoughts. What are your thoughts? What do you

(36:42):
think it was? When do you think you know where
this come from? You know, if you study this phenomenon
or you know a lot more about it, I would
love to learn more about it, you know, coming down below.
All right, So the black Eyed children modern urban horror. Okay,
so let one of the black Eyed children is prominent

(37:03):
modern American urban legend that emerged back in the lateeen
nineteen nineties. These entities are typically described as children are
teenagers aged six to eighteens with unusual and child chilling features,
eyes that are entirely black with no visible irish or
pupil Okay, so, key characteristics and legendary elements, So let's

(37:29):
talk about their parents. They are typically described as having
pale solo skin and being dressed in nondescript sometimes even
old fashioned or dirty clothing. Their most defining feature is
their complete black eyes, which many witnesses described as appearing

(37:51):
empty or soulless. Oh okay so. Behavior the children are
usually reported as polite and unrving. They often approach individuals
at their homes and park cars, occasionally in isolated areas,
asking for help. Their requests are typically mundane, such as

(38:12):
needing a ride home, wanting to use a phone, or
asking to come inside and warm up or get food. Okay,
so it says the rule of entry. A central element
of the legend is their parent inability to enter a
private residence or vehicle without being explicitly invited, meaning you

(38:32):
have to welcome them in and by the occupant. Witnesses
to offer often feel an intense sense of dread, fear,
or panic in the presence of the children, which causes
them to refuse their request. Their mannerisms. They are reported
to speak in a monotone voice and seem to lack

(38:53):
normal human emotions or social cues. If their request is
denied or delayed, their polite demeanor may drop, meaning they
get mean, revealing a more demanding or menacing tone, meaning
again they get mean, So it says. The origins and

(39:14):
popularity so the legend is widely believed to have originated
in nineteen ninety eight and when a Texas based reporter
and web personality named Brian Bethel published an account of
an alleged encounter on a ghostly related mailing list. He

(39:35):
claims two black eyed children approached his car and try
to get a ride. Okay, So the story quickly spread
throughout the early Internet forms, paranormal websites and later social
media platforms, evolving as more witnesses share their own alleged experiences.

(39:58):
Excuse Excuse me, Guys has been since has since become
a staple modered creepy pasta or user generated online horror
stories and popular culture. Okay, so interpretations of these black

(40:19):
eyed kids, so some claim that they're some kind of
vampireic or demonic entity. It's just urban fur fear or
psychology explanations. Skeptics suggest encounters are miserpentage that misrecoat miss

(40:41):
representations of ordinary events, possibly involving people with physical eye conditions,
or simply made up stories fueled by the internet ability
to propagate tales rapidly. So they're basically saying people just
start doing it for attention. And I actually met somebody

(41:04):
who had an encounter with them, and then he was
parked somewhere. He was waiting for somebody and this kid
literally walked up to him and he said he was
just terrified of this kid. He said he wasn't human,
he knew he wasn't human. Is this, you know, demonic?
Is it some kind of alien or people just overreacting?

(41:27):
You know, really, you guys got to make up your
mind on that comment down below. Have you had an
encounter with a black eyed kid? But I hope I
never do, I really do. Maybe it's just misrepresentation. Maybe
they misunderstood. Maybe the lighting was wrong. I know, if
you look at somebody in a darker area, sometimes their

(41:48):
eyes don't. You don't always see the white in their eyes.
So maybe these kids were just especially if it's late
at night, maybe these kids were just out and wanting
to mess with people or something. Who knows. Anyways, guys,
we are going to move on to the next podcast here.
I will get you guys another one, probably Wednesday or Thursday,

(42:11):
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