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October 21, 2025 29 mins
For decades, whispers of classified files, confiscated evidence, and cover-ups have surrounded the legend of Bigfoot. In this episode of the Deep Woods Paranormal Podcast, Matt explores real and rumored government involvement in Bigfoot research, including:
  • The FBI’s 1970s Bigfoot hair investigation
  • National Park disappearances and the Missing 411 connection
  • Alleged military encounters and hidden evidence
  • Why some believe the truth is being covered up
Could official agencies know more about Sasquatch than they admit? Tune in as we dig into the mysterious Bigfoot files that might still be buried deep in government archives.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome back to another deep
Woods paranoral podcast. My name is Matt Harvey. I am
the host of the Deep Wood's Peneral podcast, and on
this podcast, we're making the paranormal normal. All right, So
today you can see I'm in incognitio mode. Now bigfoot hat,
no paranormal shirt, and there's a reason for that. Sh

(00:27):
We're talking about big Brother aka the government. All right?
So are the government? Is that government hiding files about
Bigfoot for decades? Whispers of classified reports, confiscated evidence and
cover ups the surrounded the Bigfoot research. In this episode,
I will talk about shadowy, the shadowy world of the

(00:47):
secret government secrets, from FBI file analysis to legend military
Bigfoot sightings and national bark diffics appearances that may not
be what they seem, all right? So what is the
government really know about Sasquatch? Why we're official investigations quietly sheltered,
and could the truth finally be hidden in point in sight?

(01:10):
So we're going to take a look at this, guys,
all right. So we're going to start with the real
file in nineteen seventy six of Bigfoot Hair, the investigation
that what revealed we're going to be There's declassified FIA
documents mentioning wild Man and HARRYT hominids. There's a National

(01:30):
Park Service cover up theories and missing persons parallels, the
military and ranger reports that were buried or lost, alleged
underground evidence vaults of excuse me, alleged underground evidence faults,
and whistleblower claims, possible reasons for suppression, public panic, environmental secrecy,

(01:54):
or military interests so connected. We're also going to connect
the UFOs in other government declassifications as well. So to
wrap that up in a nutshell, we're going to take
a look at all those things and take a look
and see what really happened. If you know us, in

(02:15):
our research, we're all about real evidence. We like real
tangible evidence and to get you know, a lot of
there's just a lot of rumors. And this is a
nats out there, excuse me on his knees. Anyways, I've
got the diffuse are running with lavender so that the

(02:38):
spirits stopped messing with me. I'm trying to do this podcast,
all right. So back in the nineteen seventies, the FBI
actually did test some hair samples and tissue was submitted
by a bigfoot researcher. I'm not going to get into
his names, but they concluded that the samples were actually
from a mere member of the deer family. So new

(03:01):
release documents details the FBI cost correspondence with the researcher
regarding the test. An information Center exhibited sent about fifteen
hears attached to a tiny piece of skin for the
FBI to analyze. Back in nineteen seventy six, the gentleman

(03:21):
told the bureau and he was following the first sample
of six and he felt might be important. He didn't
tell him if it was a big foot, evidently because
he didn't want them to know. The laboratory typically only
conducts examinations in connections with crimes and investigations. However, in
this case it made an exception in the interest of

(03:43):
researching this specifically identify what the item was. So the
examination basically came back. They used a microscope and they
studied morphological characteristics like root structure, and compared the sample

(04:05):
with hairs to other known samples. And then in nineteen
seventy seven, the FBI informed the gentlemen the hairs were
of a deer family origin. Now this has been discredited.
What I understand, these hair samples came back from nineteen
seventy seven, and now they're retesting those differently. Today they're

(04:30):
not using they're using DNA and stuff like that. They
didn't have DNA samples back then. They just have a microscope.
So imagine they're looking into the microscope and comparing it
to like two slides one by one, and you on
the one side you had the unknown sample, and on
this side you had the deer sample. And they kind
of looked at him and said, Okay, this match. But

(04:52):
who knows if that actually is real or not. Maybe
they were just kind of they figured out, Nope, that
isn't anything that we know out, so we will keep
this specimen and make sure that it doesn't get back
out into the public. So I guess they did six
different samples and all of them came back to be
some kind of deer for a second. Sorry about that, Okay.

(05:20):
So according to the FBI, there was no specific Bigfoot
heir sample tested by the FBI in nineteen seventy seven.
Basically it was was ever revised or by another research
of blah blah blah. So I'm just reading through this
real quick. So yeah, exactly. They the FBI's microscope parent

(05:44):
and analysis methods have been widely re examined and discredited
in general forensics context. So they're just saying that this
is basically was not found to be right the symptomatic air.
A two Fouve twenty fifteen review by the FBI and
the Department Justice found f that the FBI hair examiners

(06:08):
have proven scientifically in valid testimony over ninety five percent
of the criminal cases that are examined. Ooh, that's not good.
In many instances, examiners have overstated certainty of hair matches
to suade juries. Ooh boy, they got in trouble. So yeah,
I mean ninety five percent chance that that hair sample

(06:31):
was not what they said it was. Hmmm. That makes
you wonder. You know, your ears kind of peered up right,
You're looking at it. You're going, okay, what the heck?
All right, So, uh, we're gonna move on to the
next thing. Wild Men and Harry Harminen's So there's been

(06:51):
a lot of stories of wild men and stuff like that.
Some of the TV shows recently have been you know,
the paranormal TV shows have been talking about them and
possibly seeing them. And I believe it was either Tennessee
or Kentucky, where there's supposed to be people that live
out in the wild that are pretty much in their
in their birthday suits and uh, some have are pretty

(07:15):
hairy and stuff like that, and they may be The
theory behind them is that maybe they are some kind
of human that never really kind of became more domesticated,
or they're kind of in between humans and original man,
so they could be some other kind of human and

(07:39):
they just like I said, they never got modernized to
the point point where they live in a civilization. They
still out there using you know, medieval tools and stuff
like that, and and they're just essentially living in a wild.
So stories of wild men and Harry homins are a
worldwide culture, fun and unrooted in ancient folklore, medieval beliefs,

(08:03):
and modern cryptosology. Why can't I say these names These
figures represent contrasts between civilization and wild nature, and they
reflect our fears as fascinations with the untamed part of
the world and are over on ourselves. So it says

(08:23):
folklore and mythology, counts of wild, hairy human like creatures
have appeared in legends and for millennia across many cultures.
Ancient uh ancient Epic of Ganache the earliest known written
version of the wild men, as in Kudu, a savage

(08:47):
raised animal who is tamed by a woman and brought
into civilization. The Greeces and the Romans also saw figures
like this. Medieval europe harry saints. Medieval lore also featured
hairy saints or hermits who renounce society and lived in
the womans along with their bodies to become wild and

(09:11):
converted into a hairy sign of their devotion. Okay, so
basically I'm just reading this kind of stuff off off here.
And then North America also has tales of human like
creatures that they also refer to as hairy man or

(09:33):
they're basically in the past, these traditions have been basically
hided down through generations. It's also linked to as known
known as sasquad or bigfoot. So I believe there's a
difference between a wild man or hairy man and a bigfoot. Now,
if you guys study these things, I know we have

(09:55):
a lot of different people out there that research all
different kinds of things, which is cool. Comment down below.
In fact, it'd be interesting to have you on the
show to kind of explain what the difference between a
wild person or wild man or a woman is and
a bigfoot, because I think there is a little bit
different take, if you will. I think they're a little

(10:17):
bit different creature, if you will, So says cryptisiology. Let
me get a sip of my water here, Okay, Cryptoisology
and modern times, sightings of Harry bipedal hominis are primarily
studied under the under cryptisology. Big Foot in Sasquatch, the

(10:41):
not Wilson most well known Harry homin and says bigfoot
or sasquatch of North America. I think the name sasquatch
is a legend. Let's see, it's a term derived from
sasquatch wild man of the coastal Suda sold pizza. We
talked about this before, so YETI Himalayan mountains, Yaoui and Australia.

(11:08):
Other examples of Harry hominids excess for a why, including
Almas and Central Asia, Alaska, and the urine of China.
So some fruits. I'll just say that these creatures are
reflect really yeah, these creatures are relict of pminids such

(11:34):
as extinct ape gigantapiic thick case, So they're relating to Gigantopithecus. Okay,
all right, So we're not going to continue with this
because there's just so many different names and stuff. It's
just going over the same stuff over and over and
over again in just in different terms. All right, So
let's get into the national parks. What do the national

(11:56):
parks know about missing person? Is it bigfoots grabbing them?
Is it the aliens? Is a dog man? It says
claims of cover up by the National Park Service or
the NPS regarding missing persons are all central to the
four one one missing conspiracy theories, but suggest that not

(12:20):
suggests that unusual high number of unexplained disappearances in the
national parks point to a hidden truth. However, official sources
and independent reporting indicate that the NPS National Park Service
does not systematically track missing persons and there's no evidence
of a widespread conspiracy. Well let's break that down for

(12:42):
a second. Okay, So if you're the National Park Service
number one, you're saying you do not track them, right,
you don't keep track of how many people go missing?
And add stuff, But yet you're telling us that it's
not real. There are people that keep track of them
and keep track of what's going on, and they're saying
it's happening, and you're saying, oh, well, we don't keep

(13:04):
brack of it, but it's not real. Does that, Nikki
scratch your head a little bit? Guys? So, the missing
four one one theory originally the conspiracy theory that was
popularized by an author and a re shired police officer.
I'm not going to say his name because I don't
want to have any wish issues with the YouTube who

(13:25):
published a book, in a series and documentary under the
four one Missing brand. He had claims to identify clusters
of bizarre and unexplained disappearances in national parks. He legs
these incidents have unusual Let's see, they have unusual commonalities

(13:48):
that are often dismissed or ignored by authorities. You suggest
that the National Park Service is engaged in a cover
up by not acknowledging these patterns or creating a centralized
database of missing park persons. Interesting, So he's saying that
what I just said before, it's a little fishy if

(14:09):
you wire a little fishy, right, So, he's saying that
essentially what they're doing is they're covering up. They're not
collecting the names and documenting these things because they don't
want to know, you, to know how many people are
going missing at each park. He's also found a cluster
of sightings, I mean not sightings, of locations where these

(14:31):
things are happening. So again, is that the UFOs, is
that the dog man is the bigfoot? Who's taking these people?
Is it just the military? You know, maybe there's somebody
else out there that's doing this to them, but they
don't want to scale you, scare you out of the
national parks, so they essentially tell you, oh yeah, we

(14:52):
don't keep records of that, and they're a little fishy. Yeah, okay.
So the official NPS position or the National Park Position
Search and Rescue data. The NPS has stated that it's
search and rescue independence incidents are often minors, such as

(15:14):
child temporarily separated from their parents. More complex multiday searches
are rare, and the vast majority of individuals are quickly found,
So no central database, it acknowledges, does not keep a
comprehensive public database of all missing person's cases across the park. This,

(15:34):
in fact, cited by the author as evidence of a
cover up, is officially explained by the centralized nature of
how information is collected and how and maintained by individual parks.
So it says cold cases the NPS investigates investigation the

(15:58):
NPS investigation to search a branch. IBTIB does not maintain
a public list of unsolved cold cases, which includes some
missing persons. This is used to solicit tips from the public.
You know, another thing comes to mind. Everybody blames Bigfoot
and dog Man and all that stuff. Wonders makes me

(16:22):
wonder if maybe there's somebody else out there who's taking
people and doing terrible things to them or just you know,
I don't want to say the certain words, but is
ending their lives and maybe he's doing they hear or
she are doing lots of it, and they don't want
you to know that person's in the park. I just

(16:44):
recently saw a show on National Parks. I'm not gonna
say what network is on or what the show was,
but it was pretty interesting and it makes me wonder if, okay,
maybe there actually is somebody out there doing this and
it's not the bigfoots or the or whatever. That is
grabbing people. You know, maybe it's a big brother, maybe

(17:04):
it's the UFOs. Who knows. You guys got to make
up your own mind on that, all right, So let's
move on to let's see military reports. Do you guys know,
I've been doing bigfoot research and UFO research for a
while now, at least ten years plus and actually closer
to fifteen more than likely. And because I didn't start

(17:26):
with that, I started with ghosts. But I in my research,
I've come across several people, several people that have told me,
you know, military personnel that have told me they've had
strange encounters in the forest. One guy told me in
these special ops, he looked at me and just smiled
you like, you know, Matt, if you really knew what

(17:48):
was in the forest, you wouldn't go into the forest.
And so that makes me wonder, if you know, maybe
this is part of why don't document these things? You know,
it's the military grabbing people, who knows, But there's maybe

(18:10):
other things out there that we don't know about that
aren't even like in cryptusology or anything else. I know,
I've seen a couple of those things out there before,
and I've talked about the cloaked figures. They're not bigfoots.
I know, they're not bigfoots there. I don't know if
there's some kind of soldier. Maybe it's some kind of

(18:31):
new thing that they're testing out. Maybe they're trying to
see if you can see them. I don't know. Like what,
I went to Fort Worth and looked for the fort
Work Monster. Something literally pulled me down twice, just grabbed me.
I couldn't see anything. It's literally ripped me down and
that's why I messed up my ankle. But it just

(18:52):
makes me wonder maybe there's something out there else out there.
Is it some kind of alien technology. Is it some
kind of cloaking technology. Maybe they're grabbing people and people
are freaking out, and so maybe they're making them disappear
so they don't tattle on them. I mean, this is
the Missing four one one reports have been going on

(19:13):
for a long long time. You know what a better
place to go test military technology than in a forest, right,
because that's where your enemies usually are. Nowadays not so much,
but back in the day they were. You'd fight, you know,
the guerrilla warfare in the forest. So it makes me
wonder if they're developing some kind of new technology to

(19:36):
see what they can do. Anyways, let's get back into
military reports. So I'm not going to name these names
just because I don't want to have any issues. Again,
I'm in incognito mode. And so this sergeant claimed to
have seen multiple bigfoots during military exercises in Oregon in

(19:56):
nineteen eighty three, according to the the podcast that he
went on at Fort Lewis incident. This is a different incident.
Fort Lewis incident in nineteen seventy nine, Battalion was allegedly
ordered out of the training area. Some of the reported
seeing a bigfoot and shot a flutter at it. I

(20:18):
guess I was on Facebook. Fort Rugger Encounter, an Army
Reservist unit administrator reports a daily encounter with a large,
dark shadowy figure on Fort Roker with me Ruger Army
base and I guess I saw a bigfoot website. And

(20:40):
then Fort Stewart a team investigated a series reported sightings
in a in and around the Fort Stuart Army base
in Georgia, noting that the area's potential as a habitat,
but not detecting any activity during their search. Here's Ringer

(21:01):
reports Fontana Lake. A park render responded to a missing
camper report near Fontana Lake and discovered a campsite and
is in disarray. The ranger found but appeared to be
large canaine like footprints and traced of blood and reported
to the encounter with a creature with glowing eyes inside

(21:24):
a cave that sounds more like dog man to me.
So here's Yellowstone. Two brothers camping and Yellowstone reported hearing
a large, heavy creature running it on two feet through
the woods near their tent. They later found no footprints
which is detailed, which is a detail often mentioned in

(21:46):
similar reports and shown on his YouTube video Okay, malgolone monster,
I'm sorry, I haven't mispronounced d. In nineteen sixty eight, an
encounter where three campers were reportingly seeing us tall, shadowy
upright figure and a glowing red eyes near Wood Canyon Lake.

(22:06):
They're reported an incident to rangers before leaving the area. Okay,
And last but not least, the Western Air Defense Sector,
part of the Washington Air National Guard, has adopted a
bigfoot as a mascot. Referencing is rarely seen, but ever
pleasant monitoring role, says the Washington State Military Department. So

(22:31):
it makes you wonder if maybe they're having exciting semi Washington, Oregon.
That's those are places you're going to see in them
all the time, all right, So let's talk about government
whistle blowers. It says numerous unsubstantiated claims from alleged bigfoot
whistleblowers have circulated online, mostly in cryptsiology forms and social media,

(22:55):
so I don't have to read this to you guys. Essentially,
this goes through and tries to discredit the whistleblowers, saying
that they essentially, I don't know what they're talking about.
This is not real. The government doesn't really listen anything
about bigfoot on their sites or anything like that. They've

(23:15):
really gone to a lot of trouble to make sure
that bigfoots are not on any government website, and they
kind of keep them away from the government for some reason.
You think with as many sightings and as many encounters
as there have been, there would be some kind of

(23:36):
special team that investigates these sightings and stuff like that
within the military. Makes you wonder what they know if
they're not really getting into the subject. I know that
recently have gotten into quite a bit of UFO stuff,
and they're starting to admit, hey, UFOs are real and

(23:57):
stuff like that, but now they're kind of saying we're not.
They're not talking about Bigfoot at all. If you've noticed,
it's really strange that they're not talking about the Bigfoot phenomenon.
Maybe that's next, maybe after they come out and go okay, well,
UFOs are real and aliens are real. Okay, now we're

(24:17):
gonna let me you know, the bigfoot's real too. It
makes you wonder what else they're hiding, right, They're just
kind of keeping it quiet. They're just like mum is
a word, right, They're just kind of keeping their lips shut,
all right. So I've always wondered, and I've heard from
from people. I've met a lot of people in my

(24:38):
time as I've gotten into the Bigfoot research that our
military and have participated in special organizations and stuff that
don't exist, if you will. I like the A Team, right,
they don't really exist, but they did. They did exist.
They're like a special black ops team that essentially will

(25:05):
hunt down bigfoots now. If you remember my friend Joe,
I'm starting to wonder if something happened to him. I'm
starting to wonder you know, Joe had enemies. Unfortunately, he
was not the best guy, but he was a cool
guy and he had really turned his life around and
was really trying to do something special with Bigfoot in

(25:29):
his life and stuff like that. And he lived on
a fifty five acre piece of land almost to Meeting
National Forest. And we were lucky enough for about four
just over four years to get up to go up
there every couple three or four months usually and document
new paranormal activity on his property, right Bigfoot, you have Bigfoot.

(25:52):
You had some weird UFO stuff on his property. Sometimes
you ghosts his relatives. Basically I would come and mess
with our cameras and stuff, and we've documented all that.
If you go back and watch any of the Joe's
Camp stuff, you'll see on our YouTube channel. There's quite
a bit of it on there about him. But we

(26:13):
did a full documentary on it. And unfortunately, if I
had the equipment had today, that documentary would have been
a hell of a lot better. We were hoping to
get another opportunity to go back up there. Unfortunately, with
his death, things kind of just stopped. But yeah, I
mean his place was just amazing. I mean, I mean

(26:35):
literally he was in Bigfoot's living room and literally coming
through his property. I mean seven or eight people. Took
seven eight different people out there with me. Every single
one of them had a Bigfoot siding with from non
believer of all labor. So one day he was talking
about hearing gunshots and all this other stuff, and he

(26:56):
was severely worried about the bigfoots in his area. From
what I understand, when a bigfoot becomes a nuisance or
becomes a known or starts doing things to cause problems,
that bigfoot goat, you know, basically gets the axe if

(27:16):
you will, they basically will make them disappear if you will,
kind of like the four one one missing files, right,
so they will disappear and without a trace, and then
stuff like that. But Joe hurt a bunch of gunshots
up by his property and saw a helicopter, black helicopter

(27:38):
that made no noise flyover his property, and he thought
people were coming down into his land, and he went
into grab his protective piece and ran back out there.
By the time he got back out there, the gunshots
that stopped, and basically a helicopter's gone and everything, so
and then it would quiet been his location for quite

(28:01):
a while. There was no bigfoot activity for what six
eight months, so we don't know if they did something
or what. But I do I have heard of a
special bigfoot or cryptosology team that basically tracks these things

(28:22):
and when they become an issue, we'll take them out.
If you remember the Survivor Man episode where he did
bigfoot research, he heard, you know, he was talking about
one gentleman also researched a bigfoot and he recorded all
the gunshots at night, and so let's Stroud basically follow

(28:45):
it up on that. You guys can go watch that episode.
I don't want to get too much into that show
because I don't want to get an issue with the YouTube,
but yeah, I mean it's it's I do really think
that they have some kind of eyes on what's going on.
I'm pretty sure they were involved with what's going on
with bigfoot and the National Parks and stuff like that.

(29:07):
Like I said that, one guy was telling me, if
you really knew what was in the forest, you probably
wouldn't go into the forest. All right, guys, With that,
I'm gonna wrap this up. I appreciate you guys watching
and listening, and we will catch you guys on the
next one,
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