December 5, 2025 • 30 mins
Matt sits down with professional paranormal investigator and author Maxim W. Furek to explore the groundbreaking theories presented in his book The Lost Tribes of Bigfoot.
This episode dives into Bigfoot “tribes,” spiritual and interdimensional encounters, Indigenous history, and modern cryptid sightings
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Discussion Topics:
👣 Bigfoot tribes & variations
✨ Paranormal vs Physical Bigfoot
🛸 UFO & portal encounters
📚 Folklore, history & cryptid culture
🐾 East Texas & Brazos Valley sightings
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This episode dives into Bigfoot “tribes,” spiritual and interdimensional encounters, Indigenous history, and modern cryptid sightings
📘 Get Maxim’s book:
👉 https://hangar1publishing.com/collections/maxim-w-furek/products/the-lost-tribes-of-bigfoot
Discussion Topics:
👣 Bigfoot tribes & variations
✨ Paranormal vs Physical Bigfoot
🛸 UFO & portal encounters
📚 Folklore, history & cryptid culture
🐾 East Texas & Brazos Valley sightings
👣 Deep Woods Paranormal — making the paranormal, normal.
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🔔 Don’t forget to subscribe for more paranormal investigations, interviews, and mysteries from Deep Woods Paranormal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the deeps Panormal podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
My name is Matt Harvey, where we explore the unknown
and make the paranormal normal. So today we're driving into
a fascinating conversation with the Bigfoot book The Lost Tribes
of Bigfoot by Maxim Fricks. So he's going to be
talking about ancient legends, modern encounters, intermensal theories, and what
it means if there's more than one type of Bigfoot
out there, which I actually believe. Without further ado, let's
(00:30):
welcome our new guest, Maxim, onto the podcast with us.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Welcome Matt, thanks so much for having me on Deep
It's paranormal and I'm looking forward to having a nice
chat about the Lost Tribes of Bigfoot. So thanks so
much for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, I appreciate you coming on because, as you know,
I'm a huge big Foot. We may not know, but
as people know, I'm a huge Bigfoot enthusiast. I've had
my own encounters, so I've had multiple encounters with them,
and the more our research them, more questions I have.
So it's always interesting to talk to somebody that is
in your line of fields where you're basically doing, you know,
(01:07):
a lot of stuff in the background looking for where
do they come from? Well, you know, what are they?
You know, are they are there? Are there multiple types
of bigfoot? Are they some kind of humanoid or you know,
and stuff like that. And that's kind of what your
book gets into. If you want to go ahead and
give us a little bit more detail about your book,
I really like to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, it's called The Lost Tribes of Bigfoot. It's published
by Hangar One. They're the folks that gave us Monster Quest,
Doug and Alex Hicheck out there in Minnesota. But the book.
But with the book, I tried to do this. I
tried to go a little bit further and try to
answer the question, if it's not flesh and blood, what is.
(01:46):
So I took a look at all the theories from
people like Jeff Meldrum and you know, so many of
the other you know, cryptozoologists to take a look at
what bigfoot might be. And again I'm not saying that
it's not flesh and blood, but I'll say this. I said,
you know, we've had plenty of time to look for uh,
for positive proof, and we haven't found any yet. And
(02:09):
what I'm talking about man. I'm talking about a carcass
bones DNA, something that would satisfy the scientific community. Now
having said that, you know, we haven't found that as
of yet. But what we do have is we have
a collection of what I think Alan Hinek would have
called high strangeness. So we have all these elements of
high strangeness, including eyewitness sighting, sometimes numerous people seeing seeing
(02:35):
the same cryptid. We have the hoots, the smells always
the horrible fecal matter, wet dog, rotten eggs smell, you know,
the sulfur smell, so that tends to accompany the Bigfoot sightings,
the wood structures, the knox, the you know, you know,
things like that. So taken taken collectively, there's something there
(02:57):
that we really need to go and take a look at.
So I think there's something substantial. What it is we
don't know. And that's what my book The Lost Tribes
of Bigfoot about Bigfoot, is about. I say, if it's
not flesh and blood, what is it? So we have
to take a look at some of the theories, and
there's numerous theories. Numerous people have claimed that Bigfoot may
(03:18):
actually be Gigantopithecus, the largest ape that ever walked, you know,
walk the earth. It looks like an orangutang maybe Neanderthal,
you know, closely related to human beings, you know, Homo
sapiens and Homo erectus mate it with neandroththalt and some
of us do have Neanderthal DNA, so that's no big thing.
(03:42):
The author Epithecus. Back in Ethiopia, they discovered Lucy, which
is man's earliest ancestor. So again, when you take a
look at austrol Epithecus and Gigantopithecus, Neanderthal, the collective collection
of miss links, take a look at those that possibly
(04:03):
the answer may be there. The answer may possibly be there.
So that's where we're looking. I subscribe to what I
call and I guess I'm giving you this interview like
in five minutes. But I believe that that Bigfoot, as
well as uyps and you know flying saucers, are interdimensional.
(04:23):
And I follow in the model of Jacques Vallet, who
believes the same thing. And Valet believe that with extraterrestrials.
He thought it was just too amateurish, too sophomoric to
believe that these advanced technologies, you know, were able to go,
you know, trillions of light years from A to planet Earth.
(04:44):
And he said there had to be another way, and
so he talked about Einstein and Rosen's bridge theory now
called the wormhole theory. That what you do is you
just take that space time continuum which is malleable, and
you bend it, and then you just punch holes through
the two things and.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Go through that.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So you go through A to exit from B and
that would take microseconds rather than going from planet Alpha
Omega to the planet Earth. So Jacques Palaise theory and
Einstein Rosen's theories, they are just at their hypotheses, but
(05:25):
it's the best thing we have to work with at
this point. Again, if we don't have a carcass and
DNA that would satisfy the scientific community, then what do
we have. So you take a look at the different
hypotheses and take a look at the ones that may
make the most sense. Certainly, I think that the interdimensional
(05:47):
makes more sense than say mass hallucinations or Young's collective unconsciousness.
Although I do believe that we're connected with our ancestors,
you know, through DNA all the way you know, back
to our ancestors. But I believe the uh, the interdimensional
theory is the one that seems to explain this mystery
(06:08):
to me the best. Again, not not as science, not
scientifically scientifically proven, because we don't have the fat the
data as of yet. But you know, I think we're
on the right track if we follow in that in
that line, and and and I'll say this too. I
know that years ago when I started to talk about this,
there was a lot of pushback, but I'll say this,
(06:29):
in the last several years, I think the Sasquatch community
has really thought this thing through. And I think that
they're not as hardcore and you know, they're not as
dogmatics as they were. I think that they're open to
other theories, you know, other uh you know WU theories,
you know, the Wu wu being the uh you know,
(06:49):
the crazy stuff that guys like me talk about. So
you know, uh, you know, I think that there's there,
there's there's a there's you know, it's not just black
and white. It's not just s flesh and bone, it's
not just inner dimensional. But there's all the other things,
all the shades of gray there that these researchers are
coming up with and finding. So, you know, I don't know.
(07:09):
I don't know what the truth is, but I just
have some some thoughts, my own thoughts of what they
what it might what they might be, you know, the Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So the more I researched I do into Bigfoot, like
I said, the more questions I have. I mean, I've
come across I talked. I've met a lot of military
personnel out of nowhere, usually in the middle of nowhere,
like a forest or whatever, and they come up to
me and they're giving me information, some of I can't
talk about, but they're like, Okay, you do know. There's
(07:38):
a special team the hunts cryptids, not just Bigfoot, but
dog Man and other things. And they've told me that
the reasons there's no bodies is basically because they bury
their they bury their dead.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Supposedly, I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Again, just a theory, yeah, why not? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Or recently somebody actually just on Facebook was saying that
they eat their dam which I don't don't know if that's
true or not either. Also they're saying that some and
again these are all just theories. Some people theorize that
these tree structures you're finding are possibly graves too, like
when they have upside down trees, they're marking an area
where maybe an elder is buried. I've seen, I mean,
(08:18):
I've followed bigfoots for miles and they've never disappeared on me.
I've never had a big foot disappear on me. But
that's not to say that that hasn't happened. I know
there's a lot of videos out there where you see
them walk behind a tree and then disappear. I know
there's there's theories that trees are possibly portal, some kind
of portal. Back Indian Indian days, they believe that everything
(08:43):
on a spirit, and then the sasquatch could basically just
walk into a tree and disappear. There's videos, and again
these might be you know, they might be fake. But
you see a bigfoot like peer out of the side
of a tree, and you know, you're like, where's the
other side of that thing? That thing's four or five
v wide, trees two feet wide. Where's the rest of
this damn thing? So who knows? At this point in time,
(09:07):
you know, somebody told me that you know, we're the aliens,
and we got dropped here by UFOs or by alien
and alien species and bigfoots were already here, and bigfoots
live underground, and again there's just these are all just theories,
just kind of like you were talking about, who knows
what's real and what's not. It seems like, you know what,
(09:28):
what's your what is your take on the government basically
being involved with this?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, well, whenever the government gets involved in things and
things get pretty much mucked up. But you know, Sasquatch,
the Sasquatch habitat is one where there's a lot of resources,
a lot of you know, whether it's I don't know,
oil or lumber or whatever. But but that's one reason
(09:56):
that they're trying to track bickfoot and maybe keep them
out of certain areas that have that have a lot
of value. I don't know. But the one thing that's
really interesting is that when we first heard the name bigfoot,
you know, the humbold Times in Northern California had an
article about California's Abominable Snowman. And when they came out
(10:20):
and I want to say that it was nineteen I
want to say sixty five. I may be wrong. Yeah there, okay, okay,
So they that was the first time that the term
bigfoot hit the papers, you know. And what happened was
all of a sudden America, the world knew about Bigfoot.
Hit the wire services, and that small little paper in
(10:42):
northern California, the humbold Times started to get thousands of
letters from people readers that said that, yes, I believe
in the California abominable snowman, I believe that Bigfoot exists,
and I too have seen Bigfoot. So six f this
was the shot heard around the world. But that was
(11:04):
for us white folks. You know, we failed to realize
that in the coastal peoples in British Columbia and in
northern Canada had been talking about a thing called Sasquatch
or Bigfoot for thousands of years. And we know about
this through oral UH storytelling, through totem poles, through UH
(11:24):
you know, the hieroglyphics on the on the on the
UH caves. But what you just said earlier, Matt, is
true that they believed that Bigfoot had powers, that Bigfoot
was a spiritual creature that protected the environment, and to
see if Bigfoot was an honorable thing, a very sacred
thing to see one. But they talked about how UH
(11:48):
Sasquatch could shape shift into different things like rocks and
trees and change their their shape. So they were, you know,
they were very much into that. But again the thing
that we have to realize is that these accounts of uh,
hairy hominids you know, sasquatch, bigfoot, whatever you want to
(12:10):
call them, have been around in North America for thousands
of years. So we know that we know that the
theory about Gigantopithecus is that it crossed from Asia to
North America on the bearing straight when that was intact.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Now it's not that that was an easy way to
get there. So the theories, you know, make sense. But
again the question is this, you know, uh, does gigantle
Pithecus still exist during Neanderthal or any of these missing links.
So we have to look there. And but a lot
of these uh prominent cryptozoologists like Jeff Melbourne Meldrum believe that, uh,
(12:52):
that Bigfoot was. I'm gonna just let that go. I'm
gonna you're gonna we're gonna ignore that that. Uh So, no,
I'm having computer problems and my computer guy was trying
to ignuris. We'll get to take care of that later, okay,
But anyway, there's a lot of interesting information. I know.
(13:13):
The one thing was with the Patterson Gimblin film that
seems to be the Holy Grail, that's the Bible. And
when that came out and it was scrutinized, sort of
like the Kennedy assassination film, you know, the Subpruder film.
So the Patterson Gimblin film of nineteen sixty seven was
scrutinized by so many people, and even today it is.
(13:36):
They speed it up, they slow it down, they digitize it,
they colorize it, they do everything they can to take
a look at it and prove that it's a fake.
Most people believe that it's authentic, that it's not a
man in a monkey suit, not a man in a
latex suit, but an actual humanoid. Here's the thing. When
that film came out, there was a paleontologist, John Napier.
(14:02):
He was from Great Britain and he was in charge
of the Smithsonian Institute and he received a copy of
this film. Now, the Patterson Gimlin films only what fifty
eight seconds long. He was there with some of his
colleagues and his Russian counterparts. The Russians seemed to believe
(14:23):
in bominable snowman er almas as they call it, more so,
I believe, than Western scientists. But when John Napier looked
at this film, he said, no, it has to have
to be a fake. And the reason he said that
was because the Patterson Gimlin film had this cryptid that
had the well, let me take this back. He took
(14:46):
a look at that, and he thought that it was
fake because the upper body was like an ape and
the bottom was like a hominid. So he just thought
that Patterson Gimlin just threw together two basic characteristics of
a big and made this film, so he didn't believe it.
A couple of years later, these guys over in Ethiopia
were searching for fossils and they found Lucy. That is Austrolopithecus.
(15:10):
That's man's earliest ancestor. They named it Lucy after the
Beatles Lucy in the sky with diamonds. They got drunk
that night listening to the Beatles and celebrating their big thing.
Lucy was only three and a half foot tall, but
they found this in the When John Napier heard about this,
(15:30):
and again this was just a couple of years after
he had seen the actual film. He said, wait a second,
I made a mistake. He said, this film is accurate.
And he said that it was accurate because Lucy Australopithecus
had the upper body of an ape, you know, long
arms to climb trees, and then had the long legs,
(15:52):
and it was a hominid, could could bite, pedal, could
walk on two feet, not crawl on all fours, and
not break he ate like an ape. So Napier realized
that Lucy Australopithecus, you know, had the same characteristics of
the Patterson Gimlin film. So it was an example of
(16:13):
science coming around full circle and validating, you know, one
theory or a disbelief in one theory. So that to
me is one of the most exciting things about, you know,
the sasquatry. Certainly, the Patterson Gimblin film to this day
holds its own and it's pretty much like equivalent to
the two thousand and four Nimics tic TAC video that
(16:39):
the pilots shot. I mean, and again you could scrutinize
that all you want, but I mean it's there at hovers,
goes back and forth and then it goes under water.
So again we you know, the Pentagon started to call
these things UAPs but unidentified aerial phenomenon and then fight
(17:00):
anomalous phenomenon because these things weren't just AREO. They were
going under the water. So there's a lot of things happening.
You know, it's happening fast, you know, just you know. So,
you know, we had that thing about the Atlas, the
thirty one or three one Atlas. This big asteroid was
coming alongside of us, coming from out of outside of
(17:23):
our solar system, and that's only happened, I think, two
other times. But this one was bigger and faster, and
already people were saying it was guided by by alien intelligence.
It was being guided by a higher intelligence. And then
NASA and a bunch of other people said no, it's not.
It started to break up. But this thing was bigger
(17:44):
and faster than anything we've seen before. But you know,
for a while, the people were getting getting a little
bit antsy, you know, apprehensive about what it might have been.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
So yeah, and the paranormal right now is floating.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The paramount activity is just exploding around the world. One
thing that people don't realize is that there's bigfoots reported
on almost almost every continent. I mean, not necessarily bigfoot,
but they have different names for them all over and
that almost snowman. You have the what is it called
orn pende. I'm mispronouncing that probably in Australia. I mean
(18:23):
every Russia has their own, everywhere has their own. I
mean even England is now reporting some kind of bipedal
harry beast and stuff like that. In Europe is reporting
those two up in the mountains, So I mean there
must be something to this. I mean, I've had my
own encounters with them, what I've seen. I've had thirty
(18:46):
or forty encounters with bigfoot where I could say that
could be but a bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And what I alwuld tell people is.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That you have to have an encounter whatever it is,
paranormally wise, where you can see that couldn't be the ounce,
but and I mean could be a ghosts or ufo
or whatever it has to be. You have to be
able to totally describe it without anybody being able to
pull your part. You know, your story apart essentially. But anyways,
you were saying.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You had your sightings. How long? How long were they were?
They were there sightings of like just seconds or minutes
or a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Some of them were seconds, some of them were minutes,
somewhere longer than I wanted to I used to have
a friend named Joe. I used to go up to
his area up in East Texas, and I've had multiple
people go with me to investigate up their daytime nighttime sightings. Literally,
the bigfoots would come to the edge of the forest.
(19:38):
You wouldn't be able to see them until they moved,
and they walk literally out of the forest because the
forest tree line was it wasn't dark, but it was
just dark. You couldn't see all you could. You could
see the woods, but you couldn't make out anything unless
it moved. Everything was silhouetted down there. So they would
literally come out and they would stand there, all different
shapes and sizes, you know, because bigfoots are all different
(20:00):
and sizes. They're not They're like humans. Some are huge,
some are small, some are you know, in between. I've
seen one my size, I've seen multiple my size. I'm
guessing they're juveniles. But anyways, six different witnesses were actually
skeptics and they all became believers. I saw one literally
(20:20):
walk out of the forest walk across the road, back
into the forest and disappear, and she was her jaw
was she was talking million miles an hour. I'm like, hold,
it's slow down, slow down. Did you have your camera on?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I forgot.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I was just so shocked by what I saw, like it,
especially at daytime sighting.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, but yeah. Our bigfoot guys back in western Pennsylvania
is Bill Rickby. He claims that he saw bigfoot at
fifteen foot and got PTSD from it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So oh yeah, no, no, they'll tell you this story
real QUI because we're running out of time.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Joe and I were sitting.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
His property was like a football field basically fifty five
acres up in the Sabine National Forest, and the front,
you know, twenty yards of his property basically were just
he had cleared everything but the back part the trees.
His family had owned this property since before the Civil War,
and he they owned I don't know, one hundred thousand
acres or something like that, and he got this packed
(21:17):
to land from his ancestors. Anyways, he calls me and hey,
you got to come up here and check this place out.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Blah blah blah. We've been We've spent.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Four years researching his property and we have documentary on
an on a YouTube channel. We have a couple different documentaries.
But literally we're sitting on a bench and I didn't
have a camera available. I just thought we had just stopped.
And I believe this is probably the Alpha Male or
whatever you want to call it. And I'm looking up
and he had two logging roads. His property was between
(21:45):
two logging roads, and they went through the middle of
his property. And I'm looking up this road in between
everything else was basically big, tall, thick forest and in
the middle of his property. But he has two areas
on both sides of his property that were basically non forest.
It was just these you know, like a single lane highway,
but it's a dirt road, probably about fifteen twenty feet
(22:06):
across on each side, because he wanted this, you know,
a way to get off his property in case the
front of his probably got blocked or something. Anyways, sitting
there at a bench, Joe's sitting to my right, and
I'm looking up the road. I'm going, wait, where did
that tree come from? And I'm looking at this thing
and it just looks like a tree, And so I go, Joe,
is there supposed to be a tree?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Up there.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
He's like, no, we both, I said, just carefully slowly turning. Look,
I never took my eyes off it. And so I
had a monocular, daytime monocular, and so I grabbed it
and I started zooming in.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Literally a big foot caught like this, you know, like
the Patison gimble film turns sideways. I mean, their upper
body doesn't seem like they can turn their heads very far,
but its head is looking straight at me, shoulders facing me,
arms stretched across, black, solid black, probably at least fifteen
feet tall. I think we measured one taller than that
at his property. As we found we saw another one
(23:01):
behind one of his blind that was about twelve feet tall,
and it was it was that's the belly button was
about twelve feet up. Anyways, So long story short, I'm
sitting there looking at this thing and I'm like, oh
my gosh, it's standing there. And he used to tell
me this story. And not all the different colors, the tan,
the black, the brown, and the red are different sizes
(23:22):
and shapes, They have different facial features. They just look
different from each other. I mean, you can basically look
at like gorillas. The Ringutang's and whatever other family of
species you want for apes, but they all kind of
resemble different apes anyways. So I started zooming in on
the face. I can see around them lips and there
it's just flat. I mean it's just flat. It looks
like a monkey's face, fair hair out. And so he
(23:44):
told me that these, you know, some of them look
like they're wearing sunglasses. And so I start going in
on the eye. Eyes got to be God, it's got
to be huge, gotta be the size of a baseball.
And I'm looking at the eye and i can clearly
see it. It's you know, the thing that was only
about one hundred feet away and I have and you
know binoculars that could see that far easily. And I'm
looking at the eye and the pupil is actually white,
(24:07):
and I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. And the eye,
I'm sorry, the people was actually black. An eyeball was
actually white. I couldn't see anything like the pupil or
anything like that. Like, I just saw a black and
then white in the middle, Like what is that? And
so I'm sitting there looking at it, and I'm pretty
sure they have some kind of bio less and luminescence
under their eyes. And so I'm looking at this, I'm going,
(24:31):
what then I'm describing. He's just he's just shaking his head.
He's like, Yep, that's exactly what I've seen. But literally
I turned back to him for just split second, and
this thing was like one foot was on one side
of the road, the other foot was on the other
side of the road. So fifteen foot gape. I mean, yeah,
literally gone in seconds. I mean it's just I just
turned him to send the monocular down and I was
(24:52):
gonna give it to him so he could take a look,
and it was gone. So it's like, where the hell
did that thing go? But yeah, they they literally he
literally lived in the middle of Bigfoot's living room.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I mean it was just daytime, nighttime.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Able to get cast of that.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Unfortunately it was too dry. Normally it rains like crazy
up there. We tried to cast twenty six inch footprint
one day. They had basically logged a lot of his
property because it hit bark beetles and we were afraid
the lightning hits the trees up there. I mean, this
zigzag lightning, it's insane. We heard one explode one night.
(25:29):
It's scared the living crap out of us. We both
ran out there and the pouring rain.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We're like, is everything on fire?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
But anyways, yeah, we tried to cast but it was
actually in the water still, so we couldn't actually cast it.
But I mean, I have besized thirteen wide. I took
two plus of my shoes to basically measure this thing,
and that thing's foot was I don't know at the
heel eight nine inches wide, So I mean that just
tells you how big this thing was. And you could
(25:56):
see the ridging and I took a picture of it.
I don't know where it went to, but I have,
I have. We had trap cams up there. We have
hundreds of thousands of videos and pictures from his property.
In fact, we actually got one on camera one day
when we were up there, and Ashley is on our
YouTube channel on a very end of the video.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
But yeah, just.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
But casting are some of the best evidence that we have,
and Jeff Meldrum has one of the best collections. I mean,
I don't know who has it now since he passed,
but yeah, amazing things. I mean when you look at that,
like you said, a large foot, bigger than a man
or a bear bigger than an ape, and the stride
(26:40):
nothing that we could do. So, yeah, there's something there,
you know what it is? I mean, we I wish
we could find.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Out, you know, I wish I wish he was still alive.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
There were so many people now that I've met that
you know, are of your caliber, that I would have
loved to have taken up there, so you guys could
help us with the research. But unfortunately, I don't know
what his family to do with the property. They're they're
all afraid of his property.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, I had a chance to meet him. He was
uh uh, you know, I'm a snowbird. I spent winters
in in Florida and uh and Jeff was there at
the Ocalla Bigfoot Expo a couple of years ago. So
he did a presentation. He said that he was the
one that is the last to get invited to the
high table that's scientifically mind minded. But he was so good.
(27:24):
And then I had a chance to shake us in
and chat with him, and they were just it was
just a great thing. But you know, uh, you know,
just a nice guy. And then he's also he has
been published by Hangar One. They're the people that do
my uh lost tripes of Bigfoot that I'm showing. Yeah.
So yeah, so Doug Hicheck, the CEO, was really torn
(27:49):
when Jeff passed. So they were good, they were really
good friends.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So yeah, I unfortunately never got to meet him. I
really wanted to meet him so bad, but I never
got a chance to you, I really wish I would of.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, he was at the top of the game. He
was the pioneer and the ambassador, I mean, along with
Lauren Coleman. Yeah, four Horsemen of Sasquatry. But there's not
that many people there that are you know that I
mean that are true, I mean true and genuine. You know,
there's some of the guys out there that have that
are questionable about some of the things that they say
(28:23):
have done. But uh, you know, Jeff Meldrum and I
think Lauren Coleman are you know, for real? So at
least we have those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Exactly all right, So we have a few minutes left.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Why don't you go ahead and wrap up with your
final thoughts, talk about your book a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, if if anybody is interested in, uh, you know,
getting a copy of the Lost Trives, A big foot
or maybe an autograph copy. Please check me out on
my website. It's www dot Maxim Furic dot com. That's
m A x I M F U R e K
and check out the website and there's links there to
(29:01):
look at the books and all that. But I would
say this that if you were to, if you did
get a book, please be so kind as to put
a review on Amazon because we really need that. And
I would would say this too, you know, please support
your local libraries and bookstores and your authors and your
local podcast. We need your help. We need your support.
(29:24):
You know, we're not corporate America, and you know we're
just the little David's trying to, you know, fend off
the goliath. So you know, all the help we could
get from from you know, America, you know, from our
fans and supporters would be great. So thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
All right, Well, Maxim Firker.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
His book will be in LinkedIn the description guys, so
you guys can go check it out.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Please go buy his book.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm going to check it out as well, and we
will catch you guys on the next one.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I can see from
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Time
Welcome back to the deeps Panormal podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
My name is Matt Harvey, where we explore the unknown
and make the paranormal normal. So today we're driving into
a fascinating conversation with the Bigfoot book The Lost Tribes
of Bigfoot by Maxim Fricks. So he's going to be
talking about ancient legends, modern encounters, intermensal theories, and what
it means if there's more than one type of Bigfoot
out there, which I actually believe. Without further ado, let's
(00:30):
welcome our new guest, Maxim, onto the podcast with us.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Welcome Matt, thanks so much for having me on Deep
It's paranormal and I'm looking forward to having a nice
chat about the Lost Tribes of Bigfoot. So thanks so
much for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, I appreciate you coming on because, as you know,
I'm a huge big Foot. We may not know, but
as people know, I'm a huge Bigfoot enthusiast. I've had
my own encounters, so I've had multiple encounters with them,
and the more our research them, more questions I have.
So it's always interesting to talk to somebody that is
in your line of fields where you're basically doing, you know,
(01:07):
a lot of stuff in the background looking for where
do they come from? Well, you know, what are they?
You know, are they are there? Are there multiple types
of bigfoot? Are they some kind of humanoid or you know,
and stuff like that. And that's kind of what your
book gets into. If you want to go ahead and
give us a little bit more detail about your book,
I really like to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, it's called The Lost Tribes of Bigfoot. It's published
by Hangar One. They're the folks that gave us Monster Quest,
Doug and Alex Hicheck out there in Minnesota. But the book.
But with the book, I tried to do this. I
tried to go a little bit further and try to
answer the question, if it's not flesh and blood, what is.
(01:46):
So I took a look at all the theories from
people like Jeff Meldrum and you know, so many of
the other you know, cryptozoologists to take a look at
what bigfoot might be. And again I'm not saying that
it's not flesh and blood, but I'll say this. I said,
you know, we've had plenty of time to look for uh,
for positive proof, and we haven't found any yet. And
(02:09):
what I'm talking about man. I'm talking about a carcass
bones DNA, something that would satisfy the scientific community. Now
having said that, you know, we haven't found that as
of yet. But what we do have is we have
a collection of what I think Alan Hinek would have
called high strangeness. So we have all these elements of
high strangeness, including eyewitness sighting, sometimes numerous people seeing seeing
(02:35):
the same cryptid. We have the hoots, the smells always
the horrible fecal matter, wet dog, rotten eggs smell, you know,
the sulfur smell, so that tends to accompany the Bigfoot sightings,
the wood structures, the knox, the you know, you know,
things like that. So taken taken collectively, there's something there
(02:57):
that we really need to go and take a look at.
So I think there's something substantial. What it is we
don't know. And that's what my book The Lost Tribes
of Bigfoot about Bigfoot, is about. I say, if it's
not flesh and blood, what is it? So we have
to take a look at some of the theories, and
there's numerous theories. Numerous people have claimed that Bigfoot may
(03:18):
actually be Gigantopithecus, the largest ape that ever walked, you know,
walk the earth. It looks like an orangutang maybe Neanderthal,
you know, closely related to human beings, you know, Homo
sapiens and Homo erectus mate it with neandroththalt and some
of us do have Neanderthal DNA, so that's no big thing.
(03:42):
The author Epithecus. Back in Ethiopia, they discovered Lucy, which
is man's earliest ancestor. So again, when you take a
look at austrol Epithecus and Gigantopithecus, Neanderthal, the collective collection
of miss links, take a look at those that possibly
(04:03):
the answer may be there. The answer may possibly be there.
So that's where we're looking. I subscribe to what I
call and I guess I'm giving you this interview like
in five minutes. But I believe that that Bigfoot, as
well as uyps and you know flying saucers, are interdimensional.
(04:23):
And I follow in the model of Jacques Vallet, who
believes the same thing. And Valet believe that with extraterrestrials.
He thought it was just too amateurish, too sophomoric to
believe that these advanced technologies, you know, were able to go,
you know, trillions of light years from A to planet Earth.
(04:44):
And he said there had to be another way, and
so he talked about Einstein and Rosen's bridge theory now
called the wormhole theory. That what you do is you
just take that space time continuum which is malleable, and
you bend it, and then you just punch holes through
the two things and.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Go through that.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So you go through A to exit from B and
that would take microseconds rather than going from planet Alpha
Omega to the planet Earth. So Jacques Palaise theory and
Einstein Rosen's theories, they are just at their hypotheses, but
(05:25):
it's the best thing we have to work with at
this point. Again, if we don't have a carcass and
DNA that would satisfy the scientific community, then what do
we have. So you take a look at the different
hypotheses and take a look at the ones that may
make the most sense. Certainly, I think that the interdimensional
(05:47):
makes more sense than say mass hallucinations or Young's collective unconsciousness.
Although I do believe that we're connected with our ancestors,
you know, through DNA all the way you know, back
to our ancestors. But I believe the uh, the interdimensional
theory is the one that seems to explain this mystery
(06:08):
to me the best. Again, not not as science, not
scientifically scientifically proven, because we don't have the fat the
data as of yet. But you know, I think we're
on the right track if we follow in that in
that line, and and and I'll say this too. I
know that years ago when I started to talk about this,
there was a lot of pushback, but I'll say this,
(06:29):
in the last several years, I think the Sasquatch community
has really thought this thing through. And I think that
they're not as hardcore and you know, they're not as
dogmatics as they were. I think that they're open to
other theories, you know, other uh you know WU theories,
you know, the Wu wu being the uh you know,
(06:49):
the crazy stuff that guys like me talk about. So
you know, uh, you know, I think that there's there,
there's there's a there's you know, it's not just black
and white. It's not just s flesh and bone, it's
not just inner dimensional. But there's all the other things,
all the shades of gray there that these researchers are
coming up with and finding. So, you know, I don't know.
(07:09):
I don't know what the truth is, but I just
have some some thoughts, my own thoughts of what they
what it might what they might be, you know, the Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So the more I researched I do into Bigfoot, like
I said, the more questions I have. I mean, I've
come across I talked. I've met a lot of military
personnel out of nowhere, usually in the middle of nowhere,
like a forest or whatever, and they come up to
me and they're giving me information, some of I can't
talk about, but they're like, Okay, you do know. There's
(07:38):
a special team the hunts cryptids, not just Bigfoot, but
dog Man and other things. And they've told me that
the reasons there's no bodies is basically because they bury
their they bury their dead.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Supposedly, I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Again, just a theory, yeah, why not? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Or recently somebody actually just on Facebook was saying that
they eat their dam which I don't don't know if that's
true or not either. Also they're saying that some and
again these are all just theories. Some people theorize that
these tree structures you're finding are possibly graves too, like
when they have upside down trees, they're marking an area
where maybe an elder is buried. I've seen, I mean,
(08:18):
I've followed bigfoots for miles and they've never disappeared on me.
I've never had a big foot disappear on me. But
that's not to say that that hasn't happened. I know
there's a lot of videos out there where you see
them walk behind a tree and then disappear. I know
there's there's theories that trees are possibly portal, some kind
of portal. Back Indian Indian days, they believe that everything
(08:43):
on a spirit, and then the sasquatch could basically just
walk into a tree and disappear. There's videos, and again
these might be you know, they might be fake. But
you see a bigfoot like peer out of the side
of a tree, and you know, you're like, where's the
other side of that thing? That thing's four or five
v wide, trees two feet wide. Where's the rest of
this damn thing? So who knows? At this point in time,
(09:07):
you know, somebody told me that you know, we're the aliens,
and we got dropped here by UFOs or by alien
and alien species and bigfoots were already here, and bigfoots
live underground, and again there's just these are all just theories,
just kind of like you were talking about, who knows
what's real and what's not. It seems like, you know what,
(09:28):
what's your what is your take on the government basically
being involved with this?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, well, whenever the government gets involved in things and
things get pretty much mucked up. But you know, Sasquatch,
the Sasquatch habitat is one where there's a lot of resources,
a lot of you know, whether it's I don't know,
oil or lumber or whatever. But but that's one reason
(09:56):
that they're trying to track bickfoot and maybe keep them
out of certain areas that have that have a lot
of value. I don't know. But the one thing that's
really interesting is that when we first heard the name bigfoot,
you know, the humbold Times in Northern California had an
article about California's Abominable Snowman. And when they came out
(10:20):
and I want to say that it was nineteen I
want to say sixty five. I may be wrong. Yeah there, okay, okay,
So they that was the first time that the term
bigfoot hit the papers, you know. And what happened was
all of a sudden America, the world knew about Bigfoot.
Hit the wire services, and that small little paper in
(10:42):
northern California, the humbold Times started to get thousands of
letters from people readers that said that, yes, I believe
in the California abominable snowman, I believe that Bigfoot exists,
and I too have seen Bigfoot. So six f this
was the shot heard around the world. But that was
(11:04):
for us white folks. You know, we failed to realize
that in the coastal peoples in British Columbia and in
northern Canada had been talking about a thing called Sasquatch
or Bigfoot for thousands of years. And we know about
this through oral UH storytelling, through totem poles, through UH
(11:24):
you know, the hieroglyphics on the on the on the
UH caves. But what you just said earlier, Matt, is
true that they believed that Bigfoot had powers, that Bigfoot
was a spiritual creature that protected the environment, and to
see if Bigfoot was an honorable thing, a very sacred
thing to see one. But they talked about how UH
(11:48):
Sasquatch could shape shift into different things like rocks and
trees and change their their shape. So they were, you know,
they were very much into that. But again the thing
that we have to realize is that these accounts of uh,
hairy hominids you know, sasquatch, bigfoot, whatever you want to
(12:10):
call them, have been around in North America for thousands
of years. So we know that we know that the
theory about Gigantopithecus is that it crossed from Asia to
North America on the bearing straight when that was intact.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Now it's not that that was an easy way to
get there. So the theories, you know, make sense. But
again the question is this, you know, uh, does gigantle
Pithecus still exist during Neanderthal or any of these missing links.
So we have to look there. And but a lot
of these uh prominent cryptozoologists like Jeff Melbourne Meldrum believe that, uh,
(12:52):
that Bigfoot was. I'm gonna just let that go. I'm
gonna you're gonna we're gonna ignore that that. Uh So, no,
I'm having computer problems and my computer guy was trying
to ignuris. We'll get to take care of that later, okay,
But anyway, there's a lot of interesting information. I know.
(13:13):
The one thing was with the Patterson Gimblin film that
seems to be the Holy Grail, that's the Bible. And
when that came out and it was scrutinized, sort of
like the Kennedy assassination film, you know, the Subpruder film.
So the Patterson Gimblin film of nineteen sixty seven was
scrutinized by so many people, and even today it is.
(13:36):
They speed it up, they slow it down, they digitize it,
they colorize it, they do everything they can to take
a look at it and prove that it's a fake.
Most people believe that it's authentic, that it's not a
man in a monkey suit, not a man in a
latex suit, but an actual humanoid. Here's the thing. When
that film came out, there was a paleontologist, John Napier.
(14:02):
He was from Great Britain and he was in charge
of the Smithsonian Institute and he received a copy of
this film. Now, the Patterson Gimlin films only what fifty
eight seconds long. He was there with some of his
colleagues and his Russian counterparts. The Russians seemed to believe
(14:23):
in bominable snowman er almas as they call it, more so,
I believe, than Western scientists. But when John Napier looked
at this film, he said, no, it has to have
to be a fake. And the reason he said that
was because the Patterson Gimlin film had this cryptid that
had the well, let me take this back. He took
(14:46):
a look at that, and he thought that it was
fake because the upper body was like an ape and
the bottom was like a hominid. So he just thought
that Patterson Gimlin just threw together two basic characteristics of
a big and made this film, so he didn't believe it.
A couple of years later, these guys over in Ethiopia
were searching for fossils and they found Lucy. That is Austrolopithecus.
(15:10):
That's man's earliest ancestor. They named it Lucy after the
Beatles Lucy in the sky with diamonds. They got drunk
that night listening to the Beatles and celebrating their big thing.
Lucy was only three and a half foot tall, but
they found this in the When John Napier heard about this,
(15:30):
and again this was just a couple of years after
he had seen the actual film. He said, wait a second,
I made a mistake. He said, this film is accurate.
And he said that it was accurate because Lucy Australopithecus
had the upper body of an ape, you know, long
arms to climb trees, and then had the long legs,
(15:52):
and it was a hominid, could could bite, pedal, could
walk on two feet, not crawl on all fours, and
not break he ate like an ape. So Napier realized
that Lucy Australopithecus, you know, had the same characteristics of
the Patterson Gimlin film. So it was an example of
(16:13):
science coming around full circle and validating, you know, one
theory or a disbelief in one theory. So that to
me is one of the most exciting things about, you know,
the sasquatry. Certainly, the Patterson Gimblin film to this day
holds its own and it's pretty much like equivalent to
the two thousand and four Nimics tic TAC video that
(16:39):
the pilots shot. I mean, and again you could scrutinize
that all you want, but I mean it's there at hovers,
goes back and forth and then it goes under water.
So again we you know, the Pentagon started to call
these things UAPs but unidentified aerial phenomenon and then fight
(17:00):
anomalous phenomenon because these things weren't just AREO. They were
going under the water. So there's a lot of things happening.
You know, it's happening fast, you know, just you know. So,
you know, we had that thing about the Atlas, the
thirty one or three one Atlas. This big asteroid was
coming alongside of us, coming from out of outside of
(17:23):
our solar system, and that's only happened, I think, two
other times. But this one was bigger and faster, and
already people were saying it was guided by by alien intelligence.
It was being guided by a higher intelligence. And then
NASA and a bunch of other people said no, it's not.
It started to break up. But this thing was bigger
(17:44):
and faster than anything we've seen before. But you know,
for a while, the people were getting getting a little
bit antsy, you know, apprehensive about what it might have been.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
So yeah, and the paranormal right now is floating.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The paramount activity is just exploding around the world. One
thing that people don't realize is that there's bigfoots reported
on almost almost every continent. I mean, not necessarily bigfoot,
but they have different names for them all over and
that almost snowman. You have the what is it called
orn pende. I'm mispronouncing that probably in Australia. I mean
(18:23):
every Russia has their own, everywhere has their own. I
mean even England is now reporting some kind of bipedal
harry beast and stuff like that. In Europe is reporting
those two up in the mountains, So I mean there
must be something to this. I mean, I've had my
own encounters with them, what I've seen. I've had thirty
(18:46):
or forty encounters with bigfoot where I could say that
could be but a bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And what I alwuld tell people is.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That you have to have an encounter whatever it is,
paranormally wise, where you can see that couldn't be the ounce,
but and I mean could be a ghosts or ufo
or whatever it has to be. You have to be
able to totally describe it without anybody being able to
pull your part. You know, your story apart essentially. But anyways,
you were saying.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You had your sightings. How long? How long were they were?
They were there sightings of like just seconds or minutes
or a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Some of them were seconds, some of them were minutes,
somewhere longer than I wanted to I used to have
a friend named Joe. I used to go up to
his area up in East Texas, and I've had multiple
people go with me to investigate up their daytime nighttime sightings. Literally,
the bigfoots would come to the edge of the forest.
(19:38):
You wouldn't be able to see them until they moved,
and they walk literally out of the forest because the
forest tree line was it wasn't dark, but it was
just dark. You couldn't see all you could. You could
see the woods, but you couldn't make out anything unless
it moved. Everything was silhouetted down there. So they would
literally come out and they would stand there, all different
shapes and sizes, you know, because bigfoots are all different
(20:00):
and sizes. They're not They're like humans. Some are huge,
some are small, some are you know, in between. I've
seen one my size, I've seen multiple my size. I'm
guessing they're juveniles. But anyways, six different witnesses were actually
skeptics and they all became believers. I saw one literally
(20:20):
walk out of the forest walk across the road, back
into the forest and disappear, and she was her jaw
was she was talking million miles an hour. I'm like, hold,
it's slow down, slow down. Did you have your camera on?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I forgot.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I was just so shocked by what I saw, like it,
especially at daytime sighting.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, but yeah. Our bigfoot guys back in western Pennsylvania
is Bill Rickby. He claims that he saw bigfoot at
fifteen foot and got PTSD from it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So oh yeah, no, no, they'll tell you this story
real QUI because we're running out of time.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Joe and I were sitting.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
His property was like a football field basically fifty five
acres up in the Sabine National Forest, and the front,
you know, twenty yards of his property basically were just
he had cleared everything but the back part the trees.
His family had owned this property since before the Civil War,
and he they owned I don't know, one hundred thousand
acres or something like that, and he got this packed
(21:17):
to land from his ancestors. Anyways, he calls me and hey,
you got to come up here and check this place out.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Blah blah blah. We've been We've spent.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Four years researching his property and we have documentary on
an on a YouTube channel. We have a couple different documentaries.
But literally we're sitting on a bench and I didn't
have a camera available. I just thought we had just stopped.
And I believe this is probably the Alpha Male or
whatever you want to call it. And I'm looking up
and he had two logging roads. His property was between
(21:45):
two logging roads, and they went through the middle of
his property. And I'm looking up this road in between
everything else was basically big, tall, thick forest and in
the middle of his property. But he has two areas
on both sides of his property that were basically non forest.
It was just these you know, like a single lane highway,
but it's a dirt road, probably about fifteen twenty feet
(22:06):
across on each side, because he wanted this, you know,
a way to get off his property in case the
front of his probably got blocked or something. Anyways, sitting
there at a bench, Joe's sitting to my right, and
I'm looking up the road. I'm going, wait, where did
that tree come from? And I'm looking at this thing
and it just looks like a tree, And so I go, Joe,
is there supposed to be a tree?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Up there.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
He's like, no, we both, I said, just carefully slowly turning. Look,
I never took my eyes off it. And so I
had a monocular, daytime monocular, and so I grabbed it
and I started zooming in.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Literally a big foot caught like this, you know, like
the Patison gimble film turns sideways. I mean, their upper
body doesn't seem like they can turn their heads very far,
but its head is looking straight at me, shoulders facing me,
arms stretched across, black, solid black, probably at least fifteen
feet tall. I think we measured one taller than that
at his property. As we found we saw another one
(23:01):
behind one of his blind that was about twelve feet tall,
and it was it was that's the belly button was
about twelve feet up. Anyways, So long story short, I'm
sitting there looking at this thing and I'm like, oh
my gosh, it's standing there. And he used to tell
me this story. And not all the different colors, the tan,
the black, the brown, and the red are different sizes
(23:22):
and shapes, They have different facial features. They just look
different from each other. I mean, you can basically look
at like gorillas. The Ringutang's and whatever other family of
species you want for apes, but they all kind of
resemble different apes anyways. So I started zooming in on
the face. I can see around them lips and there
it's just flat. I mean it's just flat. It looks
like a monkey's face, fair hair out. And so he
(23:44):
told me that these, you know, some of them look
like they're wearing sunglasses. And so I start going in
on the eye. Eyes got to be God, it's got
to be huge, gotta be the size of a baseball.
And I'm looking at the eye and i can clearly
see it. It's you know, the thing that was only
about one hundred feet away and I have and you
know binoculars that could see that far easily. And I'm
looking at the eye and the pupil is actually white,
(24:07):
and I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. And the eye,
I'm sorry, the people was actually black. An eyeball was
actually white. I couldn't see anything like the pupil or
anything like that. Like, I just saw a black and
then white in the middle, Like what is that? And
so I'm sitting there looking at it, and I'm pretty
sure they have some kind of bio less and luminescence
under their eyes. And so I'm looking at this, I'm going,
(24:31):
what then I'm describing. He's just he's just shaking his head.
He's like, Yep, that's exactly what I've seen. But literally
I turned back to him for just split second, and
this thing was like one foot was on one side
of the road, the other foot was on the other
side of the road. So fifteen foot gape. I mean, yeah,
literally gone in seconds. I mean it's just I just
turned him to send the monocular down and I was
(24:52):
gonna give it to him so he could take a look,
and it was gone. So it's like, where the hell
did that thing go? But yeah, they they literally he
literally lived in the middle of Bigfoot's living room.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I mean it was just daytime, nighttime.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Able to get cast of that.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Unfortunately it was too dry. Normally it rains like crazy
up there. We tried to cast twenty six inch footprint
one day. They had basically logged a lot of his
property because it hit bark beetles and we were afraid
the lightning hits the trees up there. I mean, this
zigzag lightning, it's insane. We heard one explode one night.
(25:29):
It's scared the living crap out of us. We both
ran out there and the pouring rain.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We're like, is everything on fire?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
But anyways, yeah, we tried to cast but it was
actually in the water still, so we couldn't actually cast it.
But I mean, I have besized thirteen wide. I took
two plus of my shoes to basically measure this thing,
and that thing's foot was I don't know at the
heel eight nine inches wide, So I mean that just
tells you how big this thing was. And you could
(25:56):
see the ridging and I took a picture of it.
I don't know where it went to, but I have,
I have. We had trap cams up there. We have
hundreds of thousands of videos and pictures from his property.
In fact, we actually got one on camera one day
when we were up there, and Ashley is on our
YouTube channel on a very end of the video.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
But yeah, just.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
But casting are some of the best evidence that we have,
and Jeff Meldrum has one of the best collections. I mean,
I don't know who has it now since he passed,
but yeah, amazing things. I mean when you look at that,
like you said, a large foot, bigger than a man
or a bear bigger than an ape, and the stride
(26:40):
nothing that we could do. So, yeah, there's something there,
you know what it is? I mean, we I wish
we could find.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Out, you know, I wish I wish he was still alive.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
There were so many people now that I've met that
you know, are of your caliber, that I would have
loved to have taken up there, so you guys could
help us with the research. But unfortunately, I don't know
what his family to do with the property. They're they're
all afraid of his property.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, I had a chance to meet him. He was
uh uh, you know, I'm a snowbird. I spent winters
in in Florida and uh and Jeff was there at
the Ocalla Bigfoot Expo a couple of years ago. So
he did a presentation. He said that he was the
one that is the last to get invited to the
high table that's scientifically mind minded. But he was so good.
(27:24):
And then I had a chance to shake us in
and chat with him, and they were just it was
just a great thing. But you know, uh, you know,
just a nice guy. And then he's also he has
been published by Hangar One. They're the people that do
my uh lost tripes of Bigfoot that I'm showing. Yeah.
So yeah, so Doug Hicheck, the CEO, was really torn
(27:49):
when Jeff passed. So they were good, they were really
good friends.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So yeah, I unfortunately never got to meet him. I
really wanted to meet him so bad, but I never
got a chance to you, I really wish I would of.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, he was at the top of the game. He
was the pioneer and the ambassador, I mean, along with
Lauren Coleman. Yeah, four Horsemen of Sasquatry. But there's not
that many people there that are you know that I
mean that are true, I mean true and genuine. You know,
there's some of the guys out there that have that
are questionable about some of the things that they say
(28:23):
have done. But uh, you know, Jeff Meldrum and I
think Lauren Coleman are you know, for real? So at
least we have those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Exactly all right, So we have a few minutes left.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Why don't you go ahead and wrap up with your
final thoughts, talk about your book a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, if if anybody is interested in, uh, you know,
getting a copy of the Lost Trives, A big foot
or maybe an autograph copy. Please check me out on
my website. It's www dot Maxim Furic dot com. That's
m A x I M F U R e K
and check out the website and there's links there to
(29:01):
look at the books and all that. But I would
say this that if you were to, if you did
get a book, please be so kind as to put
a review on Amazon because we really need that. And
I would would say this too, you know, please support
your local libraries and bookstores and your authors and your
local podcast. We need your help. We need your support.
(29:24):
You know, we're not corporate America, and you know we're
just the little David's trying to, you know, fend off
the goliath. So you know, all the help we could
get from from you know, America, you know, from our
fans and supporters would be great. So thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
All right, Well, Maxim Firker.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
His book will be in LinkedIn the description guys, so
you guys can go check it out.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Please go buy his book.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm going to check it out as well, and we
will catch you guys on the next one.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I can see from
Speaker 3 (30:45):
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