October 18, 2025 • 33 mins
In 1967, Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin filmed what may be the most famous — and most debated — footage in Bigfoot history. Was the creature known as “Patty” a living, breathing Sasquatch… or one of the greatest hoaxes ever staged? In this Deep Woods Paranormal Podcast episode, Matt dives deep into the Patterson–Gimlin Film: the story behind the footage, the anatomy and movement analysis, the claims of hoaxers, and the cutting-edge 4K enhancements that continue to spark debate today.
👣 Topics Covered:
• The story of Patterson & Gimlin
• Evidence and anatomy analysis
• Hoax claims and costume theories
• Modern re-analysis and 4K restoration
• Why this 60-second clip still divides believers and skeptics
🎧 Listen now and decide for yourself:
Do you believe or disbelieve?
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👣 Topics Covered:
• The story of Patterson & Gimlin
• Evidence and anatomy analysis
• Hoax claims and costume theories
• Modern re-analysis and 4K restoration
• Why this 60-second clip still divides believers and skeptics
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Do you believe or disbelieve?
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome back to another
Deep WIT's Paranormal podcast. My name is Matt Harvey. I
am the founder of the Investigator with deep Witz Paranormal
and on this channel we are making the paranormal normal.
So let me take you back to October twentieth, nineteen
sixty seven. You're deep in the woods of Bluff Creek
(00:28):
in California. Two men, many believe going to be the
most convincing evidence of Bigfoot ever recorded. Was it a
real creature walking calmly through the forest or a man
in a costume that fooled the world. So I'm frame
three point fifty two of this video, the moment the
creature turns and looks out the camera. It's been analyzed
(00:50):
and enhanced and debated for over fifty years. So what
am I talking about? Have you guys ever seen the
Patterson Gimlin film. If you're a Bigfoot enthusia you probably have, right,
you probably watched that video like me, many many, many
many times. Just a little bit of background on Patterson
(01:10):
and Gimwen. They were amateur researchers investigating a string of
bigfoot sightings near Bluff Creek, Patterson carried a rented sixteen
millimeter camera, a crucial in detail that adds authentity for believers.
He wasn't expected to film anything so cinematic at that point,
(01:32):
but the creature later nicknamed Patty walks upright with long strides,
arm swinging naturally. The film lasts less than a minute,
yet it changed the entire bigfoot conversation overnight. So yeah,
I mean, I've seen this video so many times, so
so many times. I'm sure if you, like I said,
if you're a bigfoot enthusiast, you have as well. So
(01:54):
today we're going to take a deeper dive into this.
I've kind of talked about this in the past. It's
a very very it's a very important video for the
big foot world. It really basically was the first ever
real look at what a big foot possibly would look
like on video. Now, if you're going back to you know,
(02:19):
the sixteen millimeter camera, you got to remember this was
back in nineteen sixty seven. That technology was not great.
They were just coming out with video cameras. Number one,
the cameras were extremely expensive to own. Number two the
or and even hard to find. And then number two,
(02:42):
for some reason, my Alarm's going off number two. The
way the film was made made it really hard to
edit back then. Essentially, if you wanted to edit film,
you had to basically go through with a light box,
which was basically a little square, you know, no bigger
(03:04):
than probably like a cup size, you know, like a
drinking cup size cup that had kind of a magnifying
glass in the top so you could actually see enlarge
the picture. And then you would basically slide and had
a little light usually or you had to put light
underneath it so you could see the film underneath the
(03:26):
actual film. And then basically you'd slide real slow the
film like on almost like a piece of tape, but
it wasn't sticky through to look to see what you had.
And then they also have these things called projectors from
my younger audience back then, where that you could basically
put this real on through a movie projector kind of
(03:51):
like if you go to the movies now, but they
don't play film, it's all digital and essentially it would
play through. Then you could watch the video in real life,
I mean real size. If you've ever seen the old
reruns of movies, you know where people were watching old
cinematic videos on on you know, on on the wall
(04:14):
or whatever in family night. So let's get into why
people think this is real. The natural gait and biomechanics
researcher Jeff researchers like Jeff Meldrum note compliant gate weight
shifts smoothly like an ape, not a man in a
stiff suit. So if you don't know who doctor Jeff
(04:35):
Meldrum was, unfortunately he just passed and I'm so sorry
he is no longer around. He was like a foot
a foot print expert. He was really good at being
able to tell you what was real what was fake.
He studied at I think Idaho State, you know, basically
(04:58):
at one of the colleges in Ido and that was
his specialty. He researched footprints and he would put them
through a machine and he could like see the fine
details and tell you whether something was fake or real.
And he did it. And if you've seen the shows,
like I can't mention the names of the shows, but
if you've seen the big time shows that were out
(05:19):
there on Bigfoot, you've seen them, go to him and
ask them is this real or this fake? And a
couple of people like Survivorman and stuff actually tried to
fake it. I think Survivorman took his own footprint and
then you know, had it blown up and then give
it to doctor Meldrum and Meldrum looked at him. He
(05:39):
just smiled, be like this is fake. He's like, how
do you know? And he's like, I just know. I've
been doing this so long. Anyways, But he reviewed the
Patterson Gilman film and he had a person in the
suit and they put the whole They put him through
the whole process. They put you know, sensors all I'm
(06:00):
this guy, put him in about the same size suit,
you know, modern day suit, and essentially made it so
he had to copy the game and he couldn't quite
do it. Now Bigfoot, when they walk, they literally turned
their hips because I have seen exactly what they saw
on that video. Back in block Star Canyon, I talked
(06:23):
about this many times walking out one night. Well, if
you don't know anything about Black Star Canyon, go back
through my old older videos on Bigfoot. Where I first
that's where I first started, was black Star Canyon in
Orange County, California. It's a secluded area up in the
Cleveland National Forest in the middle of Orange County between
(06:45):
Orange County and Riverside where there are bigfoot, And I
know a lot of people go, oh right, you know,
my non believersus my skeptics are going yeah right, Matt.
But you know, if you go up there enough, and
you're up there quite a bit, and you take your
time and you listen launch, you will possibly see something
at one some point. Or you may never see me.
(07:06):
I don't know, but I was lucky enough to experience
them and became a believer because of them. Anyways, So
I literally saw I was walking out one night and
I felt like I was being launched, and so I
had had I had a flashlight. It was almost like
a headlight. I think it was two thousand womens or something.
(07:28):
It was not. It was a very very bright flashlight.
You turned it on. It was like somebody turned on
the lawn on the sun. It was super bright. So
I'm walking down, I walk over to the fence as
I walking through the gate, and I'm just walking along
the fence and I thought I heard something. So I
turned and looked to the left and I'm looking and
I'm like, there's nothing there. I didn't see anything physically
(07:49):
see anything but it was. It wasn't dark, it wasn't bright.
It was I think it was a full moon that night,
and you could barely see the outlines of the trees.
So I sat there and I turned this white on,
and I'm pretty sure I blinded this poor creature, because
as I scanned along the tree line, I saw this
thing just standing kind of in the clearing. It wasn't
(08:10):
quite in the clearing, but I was standing right in
front of some bushes, and because it was you couldn't
see it without a light. And so as I'm looking
at this thing, it looks back at me, and it's
I'm six foot two, about three hundred and fifteen pounds.
This thing looks at me. It's about the same size,
about the same shape as me, and it's a juvenile.
(08:31):
It's probably just out there watching to make sure nobody
comes into its territory. I imagine they were probably out
there hunting or doing whatever they were doing that night.
Black Star's rich with wildlife. There's you know, mule deer
out there and stuff, so there's plenty of food for them,
and there's irvine lakes so that they could fish and
swim and have water and all stuff. And there's creeks,
so it's a perfect hot hotspot for backfoot. Anyways, long
(08:56):
story short, the thing literally take one step and it
literally I have I'm spy shining this light on this
the whole time I saw. The whole thing literally takes
the step and its whole hips just turned and the
upper body stayed straight, and then it took another step,
and it probably covered five six feet, and this thing's
(09:17):
about it salls me, I can't make a five six
foot gape, and then it finally takes one more gap
and then turns its whole body, can't turn its head,
just turns the whole upper shoulders and everything to look
at me, and then you know, And it seemed like
it was forever, but it was probably like a second
maybe just to make sure I wasn't following it, and
(09:38):
then essentially took like two more steps, two more gapes,
and then disappeared. So it wasn't like walking normally. It
was actually taking large strides and I should have probably
given chase, but it was in private property so I
couldn't go up there. But anyways, so getting back to
why believers think this is real, the visible move, the
(10:00):
under the hair suggests the living creature not on a costume, Patty,
And from when I saw, I saw the same thing.
I could see the muscles moving as it walked. And
I watched the Patterson Gimblin film, and I see exactly
the same thing. And I know what my I you know,
I don't expect anybody believe until they've had their own
experience where they could say it couldn't be anything else.
(10:20):
But but for me, it looks exactly the same. It's
and then there's more actually to the Patterson Gimblin film.
You know, people see just where it basically turns and
walks away, but there's actually quite a bit more to it,
and there's actually possibly another creature up in the woods.
As they're staying there. You actually see I think it
(10:43):
was Bob Gimblin who was the one who filmed that.
He gets off the horse, or maybe it was Patterson
that got off the horse. One of them gets off
the horse, almost falls, gets back up, and the cameras
just really shake and back. Then you know, it's not
like today if you're shaking the camera around. It was
(11:04):
really really kind of all over the place. So there's
better versions of the Patterson Gilwin film where they've steadied
it so you can actually kind of follow it a
little bit better. Where they've kind of made it so
that they've modernized the film, and so you can follow
the creature a little bit better. But I mean, it
was exactly what I had seen, and this thing disappeared
(11:26):
up around the corner. I know exactly where it went.
So anyways, so proportions, the limb length of the torso
shape and head portions fall outside typical human ratios lack
of technology. In nineteen sixty seven, special effects experts said
they say creating such a realistic motion and muscle texture
(11:49):
back then would have been nearly impossible about Hollywood resources
and it says no confirmed motive. Patterson Gilwill never profited
massively from the film, and I believe Gimlin is still
alive or he may have recently passed. I've unfortunately never
had the pleasure of meeting either one of them. I
(12:10):
wish I would have, but from what I understand, neither
one of them has ever even even Patterson on his
death that I never actually said these were fake. There's
never been any proof. Nobody's ever been able to prove
one hundred percent that this is a fake video. And again,
you guys got to use your own judgment on this.
(12:33):
And we'll get into why people think it's a hoax
in just a second here. But I've talked to because
of our experience with ghost hunting back in the day,
we met a lot of Hollywood people and you know
that worked in Hollywood and film videos and movies and
stuff like that. All of them said and when they
(12:55):
saw the video, they're like, no, that, you know, that's
really hard to do to this day. I mean, to
make everything move like that. I mean, now through maybe
CGI you could do it, but I mean the way
the creature moves is just so natural and so looks
so real. I mean, if you follow, if you get
a video of a gorilla or a chimpanzee or anything
(13:20):
like that, actually moving gorilla is probably better. You can
see the muscles and everything move, just like in the
Patterson Kimblin film. Anyways, let's get why skeptics into why
skeptics think it's a hoax. So Bob I can't even
pronounce his last name, Harmonious claimed, So this is a
(13:44):
guy that basically said he wore the costume and basically
he was part of the hoax. He claims that he
wore the suit allegedly made by costume making costume maker
Philip Morris, though he had no roof so inconsistencies. Some
say the creatures for clumps like a fabric, Other points
(14:07):
to possible seams or folds. Patterson's hemp history he was
previously working on a Bigfoot book and had an incentive
to their interest. Skeptoid and others argue eyewitnesses memories decayed
later and can be unreliable, and their details may have
(14:29):
shifted with their retells. And then no physical evidence, no tracks,
no hair, no biological samples confirmed to match the creature.
So I've been researching Bigfoot God for about what almost
fifteen years now, maybe longer, and finding hair samples. You
think it'd be easy, especially with all the barber oar fences,
(14:52):
with all the trees that can grab hair, with the
you know, the mines that will for whatever. It seems
like it would be so easy to find hair samples
or even skin samples of something unknown. Right, It's impossible.
It's really really difficult. I mean, I've been in places
(15:15):
where we know bigfoots have it, and it's it's very
hard to find any hair samples at all. I do
still have those old hair samples that we got from
the Sam Houston National Forest, but I've yet to be
able to look at them under a microscope and tell
you whether they're really real or not. And Bob Bob's
(15:40):
claims basically, I mean people have looked back at that.
At this point in time, they were just filming Planet
of the Apes, and the guys that made the suits
for Planet of the Apes looked at the film and said,
that's not that's something costume. So again, I mean, you
have to use your own judgment now, inconsistencies and the
(16:04):
creatures for clumps like fabric or scenes. You know, i'ma
have to go back and look at that. I really will.
I have to go back and look and see if
I can actually see anything again. The film is so
grainy and so hard to see. It really makes it
hard to tell you whether or not there are seams there.
(16:25):
And honestly, I'd pretty much be very disappointed if I
did find out there are scenes or clumps. But yeah,
I you know, I'm all about getting down to the truth.
I want the real I want real answers in my lifetime,
there may never be any real answers even if I
do find a bigfoot, because if you find a body,
(16:46):
I mean, it's going to be gone within hours or
minutes or whatever, because big brother will probably know you
have it and we'll come take it from you. So,
I mean, I've known, I've talked to people that have
had you know, every says, oh, ever, turnover body. That's
not exactly true. I've talked to people who have taken
(17:08):
one down. And you don't get very long to hide
the hide the information. I'll tell you that much. For
skin samples, saliva, you know, pictures, video of it, it
disappears pretty quick. Because a big brother seems to know
what's going on with these things. I don't know if
(17:28):
they've already chipped them, or they know where they are,
or they know what's going on with them. I do
know that there's a group out there of military personnel
that does track them. And you know, you take one down,
good luck trying to get it to a zoo or
get it to somebody before they take it from you. Okay,
(17:50):
So as far as no physical evidence and attracts, hair,
or biological samples confirmed to match the creature, number one,
the creature was alive. Number two, it was walking on
a rocky, hard surface. I know how hard it is
to get any kind of evidence from those like like
(18:12):
those locations, because I've tried. Hair samples again, are really
hard to get don by. I don't know why they're
so hard to come by, but I do know that
they're hard to come by. I've tried many times to
find hair samples. Like at Joe's camp. We looked everywhere.
I mean, we looked on these barbar fences. We I mean,
(18:32):
we spent a whole day just looking for hair samples.
We found footprints all over the place. We didn't cast
any because number one, it was one hundred degrees and
one hundrederson of humidity. It was so hot that day,
and by the time we got back out there, it
had rained and they were gone. But we did take many,
many pictures of them, many many videos of them, and
(18:55):
then biological samples. Again, you really have to take a
creature down to be able to really get a sample.
I mean, imagine, just you know, for my skeptics out there,
imagine going up to a gorilla and trying to pull
some form of it or hey, can you help your
mouth for a second. Let me just get a quick
(19:16):
saliva sample, or you know, up the up, up the
wrong end here, let me get some some samples from
you there, or hey, can I just scratch your skin
a little bit? I especially a wild one. Good luck
with that. I mean, these things are not they're if
they are real, and I know they're real, but I
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mean for the people that are skeptics or on the fence,
I mean imagine trying to do that. You have to
tranquilize one, and then you're lucky. If they're not in
a family group. If they're not in a family group,
who knows. If they're in a family group, who knows
what they're gonna do. What are they gonna How are
they gonna react? Are they gonna come at you? I mean,
are you gonna become the next victim of of the
(20:00):
four to one one missing people? Or you know, would
they just kind of scatter? I don't know how they
would raft. It is one of the things I'm thinking
about doing if I ever get an opportunity to put
a dart one. I don't want to kill one, but
put a dart one and just get enough, you know,
just for long enough to get some skin samples. And
(20:22):
I've talked about this already before, but get some evidence
from them and then just carefully just back off and
just leave it and then watched to make sure it
got up and locked away so we didn't harm it anyway.
Get some blood stuff like that. But also imagine, I mean,
what would happen if if somebody does get a hold
(20:42):
of one of these number one they would it would
be open season on them right there, It would be
open season on bigfoot. Uh. There's several states that protect them,
but there would have to be immediate congressional congressional state
hearings to get them protective. Right. You'd have to do
that right away before any evidence ever got out because
(21:04):
these things would be extinct within I don't know months,
if not before that. Big game hunters would be all
over these things, you know, trophies, heads on the wall.
I mean, imagine all the corrupt that would happen. You know,
zoos would end up in zoos, right, I mean imagine
(21:25):
you getting put in the zoo, you know, and that's
you know, are so Also I mean imagine what if
and again this is just a what if You've got
to take all this other grein Salt. Guys, I'm not
saying it is or isn't. So my believers, you know,
you can believe whatever you want, our skeptics to believe
whatever you want. But I'm just trying to put thoughts
in your heads. What if it is partially human? What
(21:48):
if it actually is a human? What if I mean,
what if it's part of the human evolution? Then everything
gets confused, right then you get all kinds of cats.
Do they have do they have rights? I mean, I
don't know, what would you know? What would happen if
(22:08):
if this really becomes out there and people are it
would throw things into chaos. I don't imagine. So I
think that's part of why Big Brother doesn't want us
to know. All right, So modern reanalysis of the Patterson
Kindlin film recent four K restorations on digital stabilization improved quality,
(22:29):
revealing even more natural muscle motion and and am yeah,
and I can't even see that, but it basically it's
just basically shown that the muscles are clear. Uh, it
really shows like muscle movement, and it shows I remember
watching somebody who had really broken the video down and
you can see the butt move you can see the
(22:49):
shoulder muscle move in the back, you can really see
in the in the calf muscle, you can really see
something moving in the way the calf And if I
remember the foot work, they don't walk like humans, they
walk a little differently. So some experts say it reinforces authenticity,
while skeptics argue digital enhancement may actually exaggerate the illustration
(23:14):
and the details, meaning that basically because we're focusing in
so much, and maybe when you do restore a video
like that, you're basically and enhance it like that, you
are changing the video. You really are, You're you're you know.
That's why I always saying, you know, with any kind
of audio work clips we do for ghost hunting, uh,
(23:37):
don't ever change the clip. You can have one, you
can have a separate one with the audio, or you
enhance the audio a little bit. But when you do that,
anytime you enhance anything, you change it, you make it different,
you make it better, you make it worse, whatever it
could be showing something different than actually happened. And I
(23:59):
agree with skeptics on that. I do like the fact
that they're enhancing it, but at the same time, you're
changing the video, and I understand that it stabilizes it
and you get more clarity, but at the same time,
it's not the same video, and so I can see
both sides of that coin. And again I'm kind of
(24:21):
in the middle. I'm not skeptic, not believer. I'm in
the middle, like you know, skeptics and the believers. You know,
everybody wants some real answers. I believe in the long run,
and that's what I want. I want real information. I
don't want fake. I don't like fake. So anyways, the
AI motion and motion analysis tools continue to divide experts.
(24:43):
One camp says this couldn't be a costume, though that
says it's modern tech still can't make it real. Again,
people are just trying to say that it's you know,
you're either on one side or the other. Essentially. I
think there's still some people kind of in the middle,
but most people are divided on it's either real or not.
(25:04):
Me I do believe it could be real. I really
hope it would be, especially because it's made such a
huge impact on the Bigfoot community and there's other videos
out there now, guys, there's a lot of videos and
everybody says, oh, there's no clear videos there. It is, there,
really is. People don't share them because it gets such
ridicule and people, oh, it's fake, it's blah blah blah.
(25:28):
But it's real. I mean there are videos. I mean,
we've got a couple of trapcam videos where you can
see it. But it's I mean, it's just it's really
hard to prove. You know, your skeptics are going to
remain skeptical. Some of them are going to remain skeptical
no matter what unless they actually have a physical sighting
where they can say that couldn't be anything else. But
(25:49):
this is why always say this. If you're really skeptical,
you really got to get out in the field and
you really got to have an experience. And for my believers,
at the same thing goes the other way. You really
have to have an experience where you can say that
couldn't be anything else. But and you have to be
both skeptical and believe and believed at the same time.
(26:13):
You got to make sure your evidence is under proof.
The Patterson Gimblin film I think is probably about eighty
percent solid. Another twenty percent just because it's such an
old video and I mean it's it's sixty year old technology, guys.
I mean that's when video was just starting to come
out and these hand held recorders which starting to come out.
(26:37):
I mean, if he had shot it with today's cameras,
I mean, this would have been a completely different conversation.
So the cultural and physical impact the film turned Bigfoot
from folklore and ne poul culture phenomenon really back in
the day. It really brought Bigfoot out. A lot of
(26:58):
movies kind of started happening because of it and stuff
like that. It inspired documentaries, merchandise, and research groups worldwide,
which is true. I wasn't born when this video was
out can the Curse came out, But after I became
a believer, I've watched it, like I said, several times
in that and other video, a lot of other videos,
(27:20):
And so the more I kind of research Bigfoot, the
more I'm like, Okay, there might still really be something
out there. And then I've had my own experience this too.
I've had so many experiences with them, but I know
they exist. But like I said, it really comes down
to you guys being out on the field and getting
an opportunity to experience something like this. I mean, it's
(27:40):
just amazing. So even if skeptics agree. In the single
clip Ready to Find how people imagine Bigfoot, it's a
I don't know why they put some the weird word
in here, but it says believers see the truth, skeptics
see a trickery. The footage helped birth modern cryptosology, then
(28:04):
even paranormal TV, which is true a lot of shows
have come out because people back in those days and
the or you know, late sixties, early seventies were really
interested in this topic and they started researching it. It
really got popular in the probably the late seventies, early
laterly eighties, and then now it's gotten even more popular
(28:28):
as people are just trying to figure out what's actually
out there or if there's anything out there. I mean,
I gotta give it to you guys, my skeptics too.
I mean, you're right, you have we have to prove it. So,
I mean, it's just it's just, you know, basically, you know,
we have to really prove it, Okay, So reflecting on
(28:51):
what makes her so basically just for basically you have
to be like I said, keep saying the same thing.
You have to you have to make up your mind
deep with its paranormal approaches. Evidence today compared old comparing
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air quorders and thermal imaging. If someone filmed the same
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footage today with the believe would the world believe it?
Do they really think it's a host? You know? I
just don't know at this point because of CGI and
all that stuff. It really is tricky, really. I mean
if if if this film came out today, I think
a lot of people would be probably actually more skeptical
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about it. I think they would really be more Oh,
that's c G I, or you did this, or it
might be a person in a costume. But because that
technology wasn't back, wasn't there back in that day. The
way that the suit would have to be made to
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show the muscle movement and stuff like that, and the
geep and everything that would have to be heavily practiced.
And there wasn't just one bigfoot there that day, there
was two. So you have to have another person who
is bigger than the patty up in the tree line
watching what was going on. So you have to have
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two suits, not one. And the cost to make someone
like that back in those days would probably be in
the fifty sixty thousand dollars range from what I understand now,
you know, in this day and age, that suit would
probably cost three four hundred thousand dollars or more to make.
And then also you have to have the footprints and
stuff like that because you can see the bottom of
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the foot when she raises your foot if you go slowly,
like frame by frame through that old footage. Do you
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special trapcam video that actually got in show's cam camera
that was about fifteen feet in the air. I don't
remember how tall his ladder was, but he was just
up there as far as he could get that camera,
facing it down and literally it was behind a blind
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and it was literally leaning down. You can look at it,
you guys, go look at it. That is not a hoax.
We want to un caught that. That's not a person,
and that's about a fourteenth fifteen foot person, tall, skinny,
lanky person with a real weird cone shaped head and
it has it almost looks like Crusty the clown the
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Well, hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome back to another
Deep WIT's Paranormal podcast. My name is Matt Harvey. I
am the founder of the Investigator with deep Witz Paranormal
and on this channel we are making the paranormal normal.
So let me take you back to October twentieth, nineteen
sixty seven. You're deep in the woods of Bluff Creek
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in California. Two men, many believe going to be the
most convincing evidence of Bigfoot ever recorded. Was it a
real creature walking calmly through the forest or a man
in a costume that fooled the world. So I'm frame
three point fifty two of this video, the moment the
creature turns and looks out the camera. It's been analyzed
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and enhanced and debated for over fifty years. So what
am I talking about? Have you guys ever seen the
Patterson Gimlin film. If you're a Bigfoot enthusia you probably have, right,
you probably watched that video like me, many many, many
many times. Just a little bit of background on Patterson
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and Gimwen. They were amateur researchers investigating a string of
bigfoot sightings near Bluff Creek, Patterson carried a rented sixteen
millimeter camera, a crucial in detail that adds authentity for believers.
He wasn't expected to film anything so cinematic at that point,
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but the creature later nicknamed Patty walks upright with long strides,
arm swinging naturally. The film lasts less than a minute,
yet it changed the entire bigfoot conversation overnight. So yeah,
I mean, I've seen this video so many times, so
so many times. I'm sure if you, like I said,
if you're a bigfoot enthusiast, you have as well. So
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today we're going to take a deeper dive into this.
I've kind of talked about this in the past. It's
a very very it's a very important video for the
big foot world. It really basically was the first ever
real look at what a big foot possibly would look
like on video. Now, if you're going back to you know,
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the sixteen millimeter camera, you got to remember this was
back in nineteen sixty seven. That technology was not great.
They were just coming out with video cameras. Number one,
the cameras were extremely expensive to own. Number two the
or and even hard to find. And then number two,
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for some reason, my Alarm's going off number two. The
way the film was made made it really hard to
edit back then. Essentially, if you wanted to edit film,
you had to basically go through with a light box,
which was basically a little square, you know, no bigger
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than probably like a cup size, you know, like a
drinking cup size cup that had kind of a magnifying
glass in the top so you could actually see enlarge
the picture. And then you would basically slide and had
a little light usually or you had to put light
underneath it so you could see the film underneath the
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actual film. And then basically you'd slide real slow the
film like on almost like a piece of tape, but
it wasn't sticky through to look to see what you had.
And then they also have these things called projectors from
my younger audience back then, where that you could basically
put this real on through a movie projector kind of
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like if you go to the movies now, but they
don't play film, it's all digital and essentially it would
play through. Then you could watch the video in real life,
I mean real size. If you've ever seen the old
reruns of movies, you know where people were watching old
cinematic videos on on you know, on on the wall
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or whatever in family night. So let's get into why
people think this is real. The natural gait and biomechanics
researcher Jeff researchers like Jeff Meldrum note compliant gate weight
shifts smoothly like an ape, not a man in a
stiff suit. So if you don't know who doctor Jeff
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Meldrum was, unfortunately he just passed and I'm so sorry
he is no longer around. He was like a foot
a foot print expert. He was really good at being
able to tell you what was real what was fake.
He studied at I think Idaho State, you know, basically
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at one of the colleges in Ido and that was
his specialty. He researched footprints and he would put them
through a machine and he could like see the fine
details and tell you whether something was fake or real.
And he did it. And if you've seen the shows,
like I can't mention the names of the shows, but
if you've seen the big time shows that were out
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there on Bigfoot, you've seen them, go to him and
ask them is this real or this fake? And a
couple of people like Survivorman and stuff actually tried to
fake it. I think Survivorman took his own footprint and
then you know, had it blown up and then give
it to doctor Meldrum and Meldrum looked at him. He
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just smiled, be like this is fake. He's like, how
do you know? And he's like, I just know. I've
been doing this so long. Anyways, But he reviewed the
Patterson Gilman film and he had a person in the
suit and they put the whole They put him through
the whole process. They put you know, sensors all I'm
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this guy, put him in about the same size suit,
you know, modern day suit, and essentially made it so
he had to copy the game and he couldn't quite
do it. Now Bigfoot, when they walk, they literally turned
their hips because I have seen exactly what they saw
on that video. Back in block Star Canyon, I talked
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about this many times walking out one night. Well, if
you don't know anything about Black Star Canyon, go back
through my old older videos on Bigfoot. Where I first
that's where I first started, was black Star Canyon in
Orange County, California. It's a secluded area up in the
Cleveland National Forest in the middle of Orange County between
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Orange County and Riverside where there are bigfoot, And I
know a lot of people go, oh right, you know,
my non believersus my skeptics are going yeah right, Matt.
But you know, if you go up there enough, and
you're up there quite a bit, and you take your
time and you listen launch, you will possibly see something
at one some point. Or you may never see me.
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I don't know, but I was lucky enough to experience
them and became a believer because of them. Anyways, So
I literally saw I was walking out one night and
I felt like I was being launched, and so I
had had I had a flashlight. It was almost like
a headlight. I think it was two thousand womens or something.
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It was not. It was a very very bright flashlight.
You turned it on. It was like somebody turned on
the lawn on the sun. It was super bright. So
I'm walking down, I walk over to the fence as
I walking through the gate, and I'm just walking along
the fence and I thought I heard something. So I
turned and looked to the left and I'm looking and
I'm like, there's nothing there. I didn't see anything physically
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see anything but it was. It wasn't dark, it wasn't bright.
It was I think it was a full moon that night,
and you could barely see the outlines of the trees.
So I sat there and I turned this white on,
and I'm pretty sure I blinded this poor creature, because
as I scanned along the tree line, I saw this
thing just standing kind of in the clearing. It wasn't
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quite in the clearing, but I was standing right in
front of some bushes, and because it was you couldn't
see it without a light. And so as I'm looking
at this thing, it looks back at me, and it's
I'm six foot two, about three hundred and fifteen pounds.
This thing looks at me. It's about the same size,
about the same shape as me, and it's a juvenile.
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It's probably just out there watching to make sure nobody
comes into its territory. I imagine they were probably out
there hunting or doing whatever they were doing that night.
Black Star's rich with wildlife. There's you know, mule deer
out there and stuff, so there's plenty of food for them,
and there's irvine lakes so that they could fish and
swim and have water and all stuff. And there's creeks,
so it's a perfect hot hotspot for backfoot. Anyways, long
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story short, the thing literally take one step and it
literally I have I'm spy shining this light on this
the whole time I saw. The whole thing literally takes
the step and its whole hips just turned and the
upper body stayed straight, and then it took another step,
and it probably covered five six feet, and this thing's
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about it salls me, I can't make a five six
foot gape, and then it finally takes one more gap
and then turns its whole body, can't turn its head,
just turns the whole upper shoulders and everything to look
at me, and then you know, And it seemed like
it was forever, but it was probably like a second
maybe just to make sure I wasn't following it, and
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then essentially took like two more steps, two more gapes,
and then disappeared. So it wasn't like walking normally. It
was actually taking large strides and I should have probably
given chase, but it was in private property so I
couldn't go up there. But anyways, so getting back to
why believers think this is real, the visible move, the
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under the hair suggests the living creature not on a costume, Patty,
And from when I saw, I saw the same thing.
I could see the muscles moving as it walked. And
I watched the Patterson Gimblin film, and I see exactly
the same thing. And I know what my I you know,
I don't expect anybody believe until they've had their own
experience where they could say it couldn't be anything else.
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But but for me, it looks exactly the same. It's
and then there's more actually to the Patterson Gimblin film.
You know, people see just where it basically turns and
walks away, but there's actually quite a bit more to it,
and there's actually possibly another creature up in the woods.
As they're staying there. You actually see I think it
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was Bob Gimblin who was the one who filmed that.
He gets off the horse, or maybe it was Patterson
that got off the horse. One of them gets off
the horse, almost falls, gets back up, and the cameras
just really shake and back. Then you know, it's not
like today if you're shaking the camera around. It was
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really really kind of all over the place. So there's
better versions of the Patterson Gilwin film where they've steadied
it so you can actually kind of follow it a
little bit better. Where they've kind of made it so
that they've modernized the film, and so you can follow
the creature a little bit better. But I mean, it
was exactly what I had seen, and this thing disappeared
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up around the corner. I know exactly where it went.
So anyways, so proportions, the limb length of the torso
shape and head portions fall outside typical human ratios lack
of technology. In nineteen sixty seven, special effects experts said
they say creating such a realistic motion and muscle texture
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back then would have been nearly impossible about Hollywood resources
and it says no confirmed motive. Patterson Gilwill never profited
massively from the film, and I believe Gimlin is still
alive or he may have recently passed. I've unfortunately never
had the pleasure of meeting either one of them. I
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wish I would have, but from what I understand, neither
one of them has ever even even Patterson on his
death that I never actually said these were fake. There's
never been any proof. Nobody's ever been able to prove
one hundred percent that this is a fake video. And again,
you guys got to use your own judgment on this.
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And we'll get into why people think it's a hoax
in just a second here. But I've talked to because
of our experience with ghost hunting back in the day,
we met a lot of Hollywood people and you know
that worked in Hollywood and film videos and movies and
stuff like that. All of them said and when they
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saw the video, they're like, no, that, you know, that's
really hard to do to this day. I mean, to
make everything move like that. I mean, now through maybe
CGI you could do it, but I mean the way
the creature moves is just so natural and so looks
so real. I mean, if you follow, if you get
a video of a gorilla or a chimpanzee or anything
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like that, actually moving gorilla is probably better. You can
see the muscles and everything move, just like in the
Patterson Kimblin film. Anyways, let's get why skeptics into why
skeptics think it's a hoax. So Bob I can't even
pronounce his last name, Harmonious claimed, So this is a
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guy that basically said he wore the costume and basically
he was part of the hoax. He claims that he
wore the suit allegedly made by costume making costume maker
Philip Morris, though he had no roof so inconsistencies. Some
say the creatures for clumps like a fabric, Other points
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to possible seams or folds. Patterson's hemp history he was
previously working on a Bigfoot book and had an incentive
to their interest. Skeptoid and others argue eyewitnesses memories decayed
later and can be unreliable, and their details may have
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shifted with their retells. And then no physical evidence, no tracks,
no hair, no biological samples confirmed to match the creature.
So I've been researching Bigfoot God for about what almost
fifteen years now, maybe longer, and finding hair samples. You
think it'd be easy, especially with all the barber oar fences,
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with all the trees that can grab hair, with the
you know, the mines that will for whatever. It seems
like it would be so easy to find hair samples
or even skin samples of something unknown. Right, It's impossible.
It's really really difficult. I mean, I've been in places
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where we know bigfoots have it, and it's it's very
hard to find any hair samples at all. I do
still have those old hair samples that we got from
the Sam Houston National Forest, but I've yet to be
able to look at them under a microscope and tell
you whether they're really real or not. And Bob Bob's
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claims basically, I mean people have looked back at that.
At this point in time, they were just filming Planet
of the Apes, and the guys that made the suits
for Planet of the Apes looked at the film and said,
that's not that's something costume. So again, I mean, you
have to use your own judgment now, inconsistencies and the
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creatures for clumps like fabric or scenes. You know, i'ma
have to go back and look at that. I really will.
I have to go back and look and see if
I can actually see anything again. The film is so
grainy and so hard to see. It really makes it
hard to tell you whether or not there are seams there.
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And honestly, I'd pretty much be very disappointed if I
did find out there are scenes or clumps. But yeah,
I you know, I'm all about getting down to the truth.
I want the real I want real answers in my lifetime,
there may never be any real answers even if I
do find a bigfoot, because if you find a body,
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I mean, it's going to be gone within hours or
minutes or whatever, because big brother will probably know you
have it and we'll come take it from you. So,
I mean, I've known, I've talked to people that have
had you know, every says, oh, ever, turnover body. That's
not exactly true. I've talked to people who have taken
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one down. And you don't get very long to hide
the hide the information. I'll tell you that much. For
skin samples, saliva, you know, pictures, video of it, it
disappears pretty quick. Because a big brother seems to know
what's going on with these things. I don't know if
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they've already chipped them, or they know where they are,
or they know what's going on with them. I do
know that there's a group out there of military personnel
that does track them. And you know, you take one down,
good luck trying to get it to a zoo or
get it to somebody before they take it from you. Okay,
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So as far as no physical evidence and attracts, hair,
or biological samples confirmed to match the creature, number one,
the creature was alive. Number two, it was walking on
a rocky, hard surface. I know how hard it is
to get any kind of evidence from those like like
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those locations, because I've tried. Hair samples again, are really
hard to get don by. I don't know why they're
so hard to come by, but I do know that
they're hard to come by. I've tried many times to
find hair samples. Like at Joe's camp. We looked everywhere.
I mean, we looked on these barbar fences. We I mean,
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we spent a whole day just looking for hair samples.
We found footprints all over the place. We didn't cast
any because number one, it was one hundred degrees and
one hundrederson of humidity. It was so hot that day,
and by the time we got back out there, it
had rained and they were gone. But we did take many,
many pictures of them, many many videos of them, and
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then biological samples. Again, you really have to take a
creature down to be able to really get a sample.
I mean, imagine, just you know, for my skeptics out there,
imagine going up to a gorilla and trying to pull
some form of it or hey, can you help your
mouth for a second. Let me just get a quick
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saliva sample, or you know, up the up, up the
wrong end here, let me get some some samples from
you there, or hey, can I just scratch your skin
a little bit? I especially a wild one. Good luck
with that. I mean, these things are not they're if
they are real, and I know they're real, but I
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mean for the people that are skeptics or on the fence,
I mean imagine trying to do that. You have to
tranquilize one, and then you're lucky. If they're not in
a family group. If they're not in a family group,
who knows. If they're in a family group, who knows
what they're gonna do. What are they gonna How are
they gonna react? Are they gonna come at you? I mean,
are you gonna become the next victim of of the
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four to one one missing people? Or you know, would
they just kind of scatter? I don't know how they
would raft. It is one of the things I'm thinking
about doing if I ever get an opportunity to put
a dart one. I don't want to kill one, but
put a dart one and just get enough, you know,
just for long enough to get some skin samples. And
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I've talked about this already before, but get some evidence
from them and then just carefully just back off and
just leave it and then watched to make sure it
got up and locked away so we didn't harm it anyway.
Get some blood stuff like that. But also imagine, I mean,
what would happen if if somebody does get a hold
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of one of these number one they would it would
be open season on them right there, It would be
open season on bigfoot. Uh. There's several states that protect them,
but there would have to be immediate congressional congressional state
hearings to get them protective. Right. You'd have to do
that right away before any evidence ever got out because
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these things would be extinct within I don't know months,
if not before that. Big game hunters would be all
over these things, you know, trophies, heads on the wall.
I mean, imagine all the corrupt that would happen. You know,
zoos would end up in zoos, right, I mean imagine
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you getting put in the zoo, you know, and that's
you know, are so Also I mean imagine what if
and again this is just a what if You've got
to take all this other grein Salt. Guys, I'm not
saying it is or isn't. So my believers, you know,
you can believe whatever you want, our skeptics to believe
whatever you want. But I'm just trying to put thoughts
in your heads. What if it is partially human? What
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if it actually is a human? What if I mean,
what if it's part of the human evolution? Then everything
gets confused, right then you get all kinds of cats.
Do they have do they have rights? I mean, I
don't know, what would you know? What would happen if
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if this really becomes out there and people are it
would throw things into chaos. I don't imagine. So I
think that's part of why Big Brother doesn't want us
to know. All right, So modern reanalysis of the Patterson
Kindlin film recent four K restorations on digital stabilization improved quality,
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revealing even more natural muscle motion and and am yeah,
and I can't even see that, but it basically it's
just basically shown that the muscles are clear. Uh, it
really shows like muscle movement, and it shows I remember
watching somebody who had really broken the video down and
you can see the butt move you can see the
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shoulder muscle move in the back, you can really see
in the in the calf muscle, you can really see
something moving in the way the calf And if I
remember the foot work, they don't walk like humans, they
walk a little differently. So some experts say it reinforces authenticity,
while skeptics argue digital enhancement may actually exaggerate the illustration
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and the details, meaning that basically because we're focusing in
so much, and maybe when you do restore a video
like that, you're basically and enhance it like that, you
are changing the video. You really are, You're you're you know.
That's why I always saying, you know, with any kind
of audio work clips we do for ghost hunting, uh,
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don't ever change the clip. You can have one, you
can have a separate one with the audio, or you
enhance the audio a little bit. But when you do that,
anytime you enhance anything, you change it, you make it different,
you make it better, you make it worse, whatever it
could be showing something different than actually happened. And I
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agree with skeptics on that. I do like the fact
that they're enhancing it, but at the same time, you're
changing the video, and I understand that it stabilizes it
and you get more clarity, but at the same time,
it's not the same video, and so I can see
both sides of that coin. And again I'm kind of
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in the middle. I'm not skeptic, not believer. I'm in
the middle, like you know, skeptics and the believers. You know,
everybody wants some real answers. I believe in the long run,
and that's what I want. I want real information. I
don't want fake. I don't like fake. So anyways, the
AI motion and motion analysis tools continue to divide experts.
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One camp says this couldn't be a costume, though that
says it's modern tech still can't make it real. Again,
people are just trying to say that it's you know,
you're either on one side or the other. Essentially. I
think there's still some people kind of in the middle,
but most people are divided on it's either real or not.
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Me I do believe it could be real. I really
hope it would be, especially because it's made such a
huge impact on the Bigfoot community and there's other videos
out there now, guys, there's a lot of videos and
everybody says, oh, there's no clear videos there. It is, there,
really is. People don't share them because it gets such
ridicule and people, oh, it's fake, it's blah blah blah.
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But it's real. I mean there are videos. I mean,
we've got a couple of trapcam videos where you can
see it. But it's I mean, it's just it's really
hard to prove. You know, your skeptics are going to
remain skeptical. Some of them are going to remain skeptical
no matter what unless they actually have a physical sighting
where they can say that couldn't be anything else. But
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this is why always say this. If you're really skeptical,
you really got to get out in the field and
you really got to have an experience. And for my believers,
at the same thing goes the other way. You really
have to have an experience where you can say that
couldn't be anything else. But and you have to be
both skeptical and believe and believed at the same time.
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You got to make sure your evidence is under proof.
The Patterson Gimblin film I think is probably about eighty
percent solid. Another twenty percent just because it's such an
old video and I mean it's it's sixty year old technology, guys.
I mean that's when video was just starting to come
out and these hand held recorders which starting to come out.
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I mean, if he had shot it with today's cameras,
I mean, this would have been a completely different conversation.
So the cultural and physical impact the film turned Bigfoot
from folklore and ne poul culture phenomenon really back in
the day. It really brought Bigfoot out. A lot of
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movies kind of started happening because of it and stuff
like that. It inspired documentaries, merchandise, and research groups worldwide,
which is true. I wasn't born when this video was
out can the Curse came out, But after I became
a believer, I've watched it, like I said, several times
in that and other video, a lot of other videos,
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And so the more I kind of research Bigfoot, the
more I'm like, Okay, there might still really be something
out there. And then I've had my own experience this too.
I've had so many experiences with them, but I know
they exist. But like I said, it really comes down
to you guys being out on the field and getting
an opportunity to experience something like this. I mean, it's
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just amazing. So even if skeptics agree. In the single
clip Ready to Find how people imagine Bigfoot, it's a
I don't know why they put some the weird word
in here, but it says believers see the truth, skeptics
see a trickery. The footage helped birth modern cryptosology, then
(28:04):
even paranormal TV, which is true a lot of shows
have come out because people back in those days and
the or you know, late sixties, early seventies were really
interested in this topic and they started researching it. It
really got popular in the probably the late seventies, early
laterly eighties, and then now it's gotten even more popular
(28:28):
as people are just trying to figure out what's actually
out there or if there's anything out there. I mean,
I gotta give it to you guys, my skeptics too.
I mean, you're right, you have we have to prove it. So,
I mean, it's just it's just, you know, basically, you know,
we have to really prove it, Okay, So reflecting on
(28:51):
what makes her so basically just for basically you have
to be like I said, keep saying the same thing.
You have to you have to make up your mind
deep with its paranormal approaches. Evidence today compared old comparing
old analog recordings to modern tools like trail camps, on
air quorders and thermal imaging. If someone filmed the same
(29:14):
footage today with the believe would the world believe it?
Do they really think it's a host? You know? I
just don't know at this point because of CGI and
all that stuff. It really is tricky, really. I mean
if if if this film came out today, I think
a lot of people would be probably actually more skeptical
(29:39):
about it. I think they would really be more Oh,
that's c G I, or you did this, or it
might be a person in a costume. But because that
technology wasn't back, wasn't there back in that day. The
way that the suit would have to be made to
(30:00):
show the muscle movement and stuff like that, and the
geep and everything that would have to be heavily practiced.
And there wasn't just one bigfoot there that day, there
was two. So you have to have another person who
is bigger than the patty up in the tree line
watching what was going on. So you have to have
(30:20):
two suits, not one. And the cost to make someone
like that back in those days would probably be in
the fifty sixty thousand dollars range from what I understand now,
you know, in this day and age, that suit would
probably cost three four hundred thousand dollars or more to make.
And then also you have to have the footprints and
stuff like that because you can see the bottom of
(30:41):
the foot when she raises your foot if you go slowly,
like frame by frame through that old footage. Do you
guys believe you know? You can check out our old
Our big Bigfoot documentaries are our most popular one in
the Joe's camp, and you guys can go take look
at that and see what you guys think. A lot
(31:03):
of eyes shine. And then at the end there's a
special trapcam video that actually got in show's cam camera
that was about fifteen feet in the air. I don't
remember how tall his ladder was, but he was just
up there as far as he could get that camera,
facing it down and literally it was behind a blind
(31:24):
and it was literally leaning down. You can look at it,
you guys, go look at it. That is not a hoax.
We want to un caught that. That's not a person,
and that's about a fourteenth fifteen foot person, tall, skinny,
lanky person with a real weird cone shaped head and
it has it almost looks like Crusty the clown the
hair sticking out the side. Now I'm balld too, but
(31:47):
I mean my hair doesn't stick away out the side
in that triangle triangular form. So you guys can go
check that out. Go check out our website deep with
paranormal and all of our stuff. There also merchandise. I
know a couple what people mentioned to me. Hey, Matt,
I think you might need a new hat. Yeah, because
these old hats are I have seen better days. We
(32:08):
actually have a bunch of new merchandise center store on
our website. We've basically gotten rid of almost everything we
had in there because you guys didn't seem to like that.
But there's a lot of fun bigfoot stuff in their
T shirts and hats you can check out, or you
can go to our eBay store. All that I'll be
linked down below. So again, do you guys believe you know?
(32:31):
Let us know in the comments down below. Do you
think the Patterson Gamblin film was faked? Do you think
it was real? I would love to hear your opinion
down below. Please be courteous, just basically an open discussion
there's no judgment on our channel, so we're just basically
trying to figure out what you guys think, all right,
(32:52):
So thank you guys for tuning in and watching today
and listening, and we will catch you, guys from less
you see from behind k kank in your line,
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