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June 12, 2025 23 mins

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Trust—it's a small word with enormous implications that we all use daily, but have we stripped it of its true meaning?

After returning from a hiatus (and nursing a ruptured Achilles tendon that gave me newfound empathy for Aaron Rodgers), I'm tackling this fundamental concept that underpins our personal relationships, business partnerships, and daily interactions. As the first episode under the KMDA Studios banner, I wanted to dig into something substantial—something we all think we understand but rarely examine critically.

What if trust isn't about emotional loyalty or fidelity at all? What if it's simply recognizing patterns and having confidence in their continuation? Throughout this episode, I explore how trust functions as predictability over time rather than an emotional safety net. When someone says, "You broke my trust," they're often really saying, "You violated my expectations"—two fundamentally different concepts that we've merged together in modern conversation.

We've diluted the power of trust through misuse, particularly in the age of social media where authenticity competes with curated presentation. Companies throw around "trust me" slogans while individuals use trust as a weapon in relationships without truly understanding what they're asking for. By reclaiming the true meaning of trust as pattern recognition—like trusting a train will arrive on schedule because it always has—we can develop healthier expectations of others and ourselves.

Whether you agree with my perspective or think I'm completely off-base, I invite you to listen, reflect, and challenge your assumptions about this cornerstone concept. Subscribe to the podcast as we continue pulling back the curtain on words and ideas we take for granted but might not fully comprehend. Come on, you know you want to hear more.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
whoa, whoa, whoa.
Welcome back listeners, myloyal followers, welcome back to
the come on you know podcast.
Uh, I've been gone for a minute.
I know I say that all the time,but guess what?
I'm saying it again.
And uh, yeah, I mean it this,like I meant it the other times,

(00:25):
so check it out.
I am proud to say that the ComeOn you Know podcast is now
presented, I don't know, funded,hosted, powered by KMDA Studios
.
So that means I have to be alittle bit more professional and
I don't have to worry aboutsponsors.

(00:47):
Well, I do have to worry aboutit, but it's not just you know.
I mean worry.
So, yeah, we're gonna come atyou a little bit.
Uh, more professional now.
Uh, I have to, or I willsqueeze in more shows.
I have to, or I will squeeze inmore shows.
I won't be on a six monthhiatus like I have been, but

(01:13):
anyway, life changes.
I ruptured my Achilles tendonand so, pardon me.
So, yeah, you know, I'm a Jetsfan, so I was upset when Aaron
Rodgers did the same thingsometime back, fussing, yelling

(01:35):
at the TV screen, you know,cursing my favorite team, my
Jets, then fast forward present.
I do the same thing.
So empathy is real straight up,anyway.
So now we're powered by KMDAStudios I don't know if powered
is the right word, but I'm usingit.

(01:56):
More professional, I'll dropmore shows, get that admin stuff
out of the way.
I feel good, this is where Ibelong.
I'm happy to be back behind themic and getting my uh groove
back, as us old, older people,elders, would say uh, you know,

(02:19):
we have um a movie as areference to that line.
But yeah, so anyway, my firstshow under kmda studios.
So I want to talk aboutsomething that is relatively
important and you know, hey,come on.

(02:42):
You know podcast, we're allabout pulling back the curtains
on real topics.
First, I was just going to talkabout my adventures as a human
being, stuff like that, myhobbies.
But who really cares about myhobbies?
Everyone has hobbies.
I fit under this uh, kmdastudios umbrella.

(03:08):
You know, see if I'm worthy,but I'm pretty sure I am.
So no fluff.
You know we keep sit hundo.
I guess I don't know what thekids say now, but who cares?
But anyway.
So I want to talk about trust,the word trust, the idea of
trust.

(03:28):
I'm a little older, Iunderstand people now,
understand society, understandthe individual, understand.
Uh, yeah, I guess you couldkind of say group thinking,
macro level type stuff, microlevel type stuff, the individual
and I've had many conversationswith many friends and coworkers

(03:55):
about that.
We throw that word aroundprofessionally, personally,
mainly personally, but I haven'tasked to grind about that
personally.
But I haven't asked to grindabout that.
Hey, you know, I'm a prettysmart guy and I I'm gonna spew
my intelligence on you, myaudience, and you can let me
know if I'm right or wrong, but10 times out of 10 I'll be right

(04:18):
, but anyway.
So trust, the word, the verb,the action, the idea, the theory
.
What does it mean?
What is it actually?
So, wow, did my Siri just gooff?

(04:38):
No one was talking to Siri.
Technology has taken over.
But anyway, no one reallydefines trust.
Everyone uses it.
I've used it, I use it.
I probably have not used it ina sense of how I think of it.

(05:02):
So, like, do we even know whattrust means anymore?
Like, I'm not gonna dive toodeep in, like the old english
definition and what it it meanttwo, three, four, five hundred
years ago.
But what do we see it as now?

(05:25):
So I think just as an adult,human, professional, uh, someone
with the social life, I hear it.
I hear it a lot pertaining torelationships and human on human

(05:45):
contact type of stuff.
So, like to me and this is tome, but I'm generally right Like
trust isn't necessarily, it'snot love, it's not, I guess,
like loyalty to me is Likeloyalty to me is basically

(06:16):
predictability and it's beingcomfortable with being able to
predict predictability over time.
So, like, what I mean by thatis I know I'm going to catch
some crap for this, but hey,bring it on.
If you disagree, disagree, letme know.
I mean, I may or may not care,probably won't, but you could
try.

(06:42):
So, like to me, people use theword trust generally when
they're talking aboutrelationships, right, infidelity
, when they're talking aboutrelationships, right, infidelity
.
So, hey, you, you broke mytrust or you lost my trust
because you, generally they talkabout in relationships, they
talk about infidelity andcheating and stuff like that.
Right, like, hey, I expectedthis person to be loyal to me
because we're in a relationship.
They weren't loyal and theycheated and so I I lost trust to

(07:05):
them, right, but that's trustis not necessarily like the, the
non-cheating and all of that isan expectation.
It's like, hey, we chose to beum in a relationship together.
So my general expectation isthat you are in a relationship
together.
So my general expectation isthat you are in a relationship

(07:25):
with someone else.
So that's an expectation.
It's not, to me, necessarilytrust.
Trust is like, hey, trust is aform of comfort to me.
It may not be to you, butyou're wrong.
To me it's a form of comfort.
It's like an emotional safetynet.
I lean towards it beingtethered to emotions and an

(07:49):
emotional state, as opposed to atangible, logical, more so.
Logical, more so.

(08:16):
Uh, I don't want to sayprofessional term, what it is.
You can use it outside of justdescribing something that you
want in a relationship, right,you know what I mean.
Like you could say hey, man, Itrusted that you were going to

(08:38):
pick up the phone.
It's because every time I callafter five o'clock when you're
off of work, you pick up thephone, right, but still, that's
an emotional type, anchor typeof deal.
It's like, hey, I felt asthough this person would respect
me enough and saw that it wasme that they would pick up the
phone, respect me enough and sawthat it was me that they would

(09:00):
pick up the phone.
So I built trust.
But, like, I think we havetethered it to that so much that
we've we make it more importantthan what it is like.
It's a dramatic effect to it.
Now.
It's like I could say, hey, man, I trusted you to take out the
trash, nobody cares about that.
It's like no, I expected you totake out the trash, nobody
cares about that.
It's like no, I expected you totake out the trash because, as
a reasonable and prudent humanbeing, I know you saw the trash

(09:24):
was over, you know overflowingor it was too much, and boom,
you did the right thing to takeit out.
But if you didn't, no one sayswell, I don't trust you to take
out the trash anymore.
You know it's, it's a very, youknow, tangible thing and it's

(09:46):
not tied to like no one is, noone's feelings will be heard if
the trash isn't taken out.
So I don't know if I'm makingsense, but I know I'm making
sense.
But I really think that we arealmost abusing the word trust
now.
And yeah, you could use it indifferent aspects, different

(10:10):
forums, different, like I said,aspects of your life.
Like professionally, you haveto trust partners, if you have
business partners, for them todo their uh part in their
business.
But then that's almost likeit's a reasonable expectation,
like, hey, if I'm hooking upwith you as a business partner,

(10:33):
I expect you to roll with your50 percent.
That's almost a professionalexpectation.
Oh, pardon me, it's not like atrust thing.
I mean, we make it a trustthing but it's not really
because I mean, say, it's a newbusiness partner.
So what I'm doing is I'mjustifying what I think trust is

(10:59):
.
So for me trust is linked toconsistency more than it is to
an emotional like.
To me it's almost like anemotional anchor if it is, or

(11:24):
people kind of use it like thatnowadays, but I don't know.
But I do know, like I said,it's not, it's predictability
over time to me.
So if you're in it with a new,it's predictability over time to
me.
So if you're in it with a newbusiness partner, you're not

(11:44):
going to know how they are.
So you, you can't necessarilysay you trust them or don't
trust them, because it's basedoff of, like, their product,
what, what, what you see thatthey are capable of and what
they do.
And then you kind of customizetrust so, like I've had this

(12:06):
conversation with more friendsthan one and I think a lot of
people lean towards it being anemotional safety net and that's
it, and net, and that's it.
And like that's it, that'swhere the buck stops with them
and like to me, trust is a lie.

(12:29):
It's like integrity with moneytime.
When you're talking aboutbusiness vision, which, when you
scale it down, when you peel iton your back, it's consistency,
it's like, hey, is this person,is this business partner?
You know, do they?
If they're trying to reach thebottom line, is that their daily

(12:53):
goal?
Do they show that every day?
Hey, the bottom line, we'retrying to hit the bottom line.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Is that what they're all about?
Or, you know, one day it's like, hey, well, I want to
experiment with new stuff.
And the next day is the bottomline.
And the next day it's like, hey, I have to help my family, so I
can't really invest that muchIn business time.

(13:13):
Blah, blah, blah.
So, but I think we aredefinitely nowadays.
Nowadays, um, we are probablytaking the power away from the

(13:36):
word trust.
I mean, like, I don't want to,I don't want to bash social
media and stuff like that.
I'm not doing that because thisis a form of social media and I
don't want all of my listenersand followers to think that I
don't want you to listen andfollow.
I mean, you know you better.

(14:02):
But anyway, like so, trust in asocial media perspective
nowadays is more liketransactional.
You know, like people kind ofpresent what they want to be and
not necessarily what they arewe.
We get that.
We get that.
You have the platform, you'regoing to do what you're going to

(14:22):
do with the platform and it andit almost erodes what people
perceive trust to be, thatemotional safety net.
You know it's like hey, Iexpect someone to present to me
what they really are.
You know we all have ourpersonal perspectives about that

(14:46):
and it is what it is.
I'm not going to go into that.
We kind of know what the dealis.
So but like, trust me, whenpeople say trust me or
businesses say trust me and thisand that and that, it's like
they're not really nowadays it'snot a testament to their
consistency's, not, it reallyisn't, it's just like it's kind

(15:06):
of wrong.
You know it's.
They're using it as like a prcampaign.
I'm not a pr person but liketrust me, it's like easy to kind
of fall back on if you say thator that's your tagline or
whatever.
But to me, like I said, it'sconsistency and actions,

(15:28):
positive actions.
So it's like more so a receiptof like past behavior, like so,
if you, you know, if someone'ssaying, trust me, that's kind of
bad because your record shouldkind of speak for itself right,
like that's why you don't seelike Bentley commercials and

(15:49):
stuff like that and whateverMaybach commercials, because the
car, like you don't have to say, hey, this is a great, a great
car.
It is, I guess, or moreluxurious than the regular cars
which nowadays that's kind offlipped upside down, like nobody

(16:10):
cares, like I don't ever want aBentley I promised myself, I
said, hey, I'll never get aluxurious car again unless I
have a driver to come with it.
But who cares?
Back to the subject at hand.
But I hate that I'm tacklingsuch a serious thing.
But I'm seeing it.

(16:32):
I'm seeing it in my everydaylife People using terms just to
use them and not reallyrespecting language.
And, yeah, words are important,words hurt and all that garbage
they do, they don't, they will,they won't.
It's just kind of how you takeit.

(16:53):
But if we all kind of dilutesomething and we don't really
know or we don't really careabout diluting it, then that's
the way, that's the way we'regoing to go, but yeah, I'm
trying to be a little bit moreprofessional and bring it back

(17:13):
to hey, come on, you know, it'sbecause we like to highlight and
talk about the truth.
I guess it's like you know.
Guess it's like you know, comeon, you know people use the word
trust the wrong way.

(17:33):
We just do, and that's, that'show it is, and I'm gonna talk
about it and I'm gonna educatemy audience on it and if you
agree, then stick with me, andif you don't agree, stick with
me, and if you don't agree,stick with me anyway and you're
wrong, but anyway.

(17:53):
So to me, like trust, like Isaid, I think it's an emotional
safety net.
People use it as an emotionalsafety net and it's not really
earned by promises.
I hate to say, yeah, you can'tjust talk about it, you got to
be about it.
That's true.
But to me it's built bypatterns.

(18:15):
I'm just going to get verysmart on you real quickly.
It's trust me, being vulnerableand admitting that I trust
something is just that Irecognize a pattern.
I'm putting my faith in thatpattern.
That's all it is.
It's nothing more, it's nothingless.

(18:37):
I trust that the A-Train iscoming every 15 minutes, because
it has.
It's come every 15 minutes inthe past, like that's all trust
really is.
But when people associate itwith other people it has a
dramatic effect.
Right, it has this likedramatic tail to it.
It's like, well, I don't trustthis person, so that's a super

(18:59):
bad thing.
But then, hey, your realizationand ability to observe and
recognize a pattern may be off.
You know what I mean.
You may not have the bestattention span, you may not
realize that this person doesthis one thing at you know,
every day, at 6 30 so am.
So you may not say, or you maynot realize, like, hey, my best

(19:24):
bet is that to trust that thisperson will do this thing, one
thing at 6 30 am, because youdon't realize that.
So if that person doesn't do itany other time and then you ask
them to do it, they don't do it, say, well, I don't trust this
person.
It's like, well, yo, man, howabout you?
Look at the whole picture.
Don't just act like you'redistrusting because or I don't

(19:48):
know what the the antithesis isof trusting antitrust, antitrust
laws.
But sometimes you got to lookat the whole thing, you know the
whole picture.

(20:09):
Like I'm just gonna go, I'mgonna go on record and say, like
I really think women use theword trust or I don't, or the
sentence I don't trust you alittle bit more than men,
because it's also it's likereliability part to it, like I

(20:34):
don't necessarily want to forcesomeone to be reliable because I
need them.
So if they're not, I say Idon't trust them.
I don't know, I'm just sayingthat as a man, as an adult human
being, not saying that Iwouldn't want help, but it's
like I'm not going to forcesomeone to be available or to be

(20:59):
helpful just because I needthem to be.
So not saying that women do it,but nine times out of 10, it's
about that emotional safety netissue is reliability.
You know what I mean and thatthat comes into play when you're

(21:20):
talking about relationships andfidelity in the relationship.
And fidelity in therelationship, um, you know as it
is.
So it's like, hey, I relied onyou to kind of carry the
emotional weight of me seeingyou as my anchor, if that makes

(21:41):
sense.
So if it doesn't make sense toyou, you need to reevaluate a
lot of stuff.
Anyway, yo man, first episodeunder KMDA Studios.
This episode was sponsored byno one, still gaining traction
on the sponsors, you know, wishme luck with my Achilles here.

(22:07):
It's a pain.
Like I did not realize how manysteps I have to maneuver every
day until the achilles went boom.
So, like every, every step, I'm, like they say, in the league
making business decisions,decisions, man.

(22:27):
Like hey, I do not want to stepover that unstable step.
It looks a little loose and allthat, but I'm back.
I'm going to try to pump outEppies more frequently.
I say that every time and I'mgonna continue to say it every

(22:50):
time until I do.
You better listen, cause younever know what I'm gonna say
next, you never know what you'regonna learn next and you never
know what I don't know.
Theme music I'm gonna come upwith, but I, my peoples, I don't
know.
Theme music I'm gonna Come upwith, but Alright, my Peoples,

(23:13):
keep it real and come on.
You know we're gonna spreadthat truth.
You know that's all I got.
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