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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, it might be the off season. We got a
jam packed show. We're gonna talk about who want a
free agency?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Most definitely we also get to talk to my boy
Shawn Springs All he's that's gonna be a great conversation.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
And GM Adam Peters in the house gonna talk to
this as well. I can't wait to pick his brain.
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hey, don't ever want to Welcome to the Get Loud Podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
My official partner on this show, my guy Fred Smooth.
I can't wait to go to Northwest Stadium in Kendrick
not like us. Oh I knew it. Listen to me.
Why don't you make a TikTok dance? Everybody was doing
that after the Superhowl. I have yet to make one TikTok?
(00:57):
My key, you'd be a star on My kids tried
to get me on their TikTok.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I refuse to do it because I'm just dirty, old man,
just not.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
But I don't think you know, we come back. We
come from a generation of battle rappers. We have seen
it all. We have seen the Tupac Biggie. We have
seen what we have seen it all. I have never
seen somebody getting man him.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Like Drake has got man. Now you got destroyed, like, yeah,
it happened.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I saw Adam Peters destroys the rest of the NFL
with his Right.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Now, Adam Peters is Adam Lamar. He's gonna be on
the show. Yes, he's Adam Lamar.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Right now he is killing it like I'm gonna tell
you how good he is. He said, I'm going to
look at the free agent landscape and he looked at
it and he studied it and he said, it's nothing
there that I really want. And he figured out a
way to go to the Texans. He realized that they
was in out hell. He said, you know what, They're
(02:02):
gonna have to give up somebody something. He's looked at
the San Francisco forty nine ers. They are in cap hell.
They're gonna have to give up somebody for the cheap
and he built this roster through that train of thought.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That's that's unbelieved. That's not like us.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I bet that's the first time Adam Peters has been
compared to Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
He's a helicompetent thought Adam Lamar.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
He's gonna talk about getting ready for the NFL draft
kind of his process. Yes, you know what's next for
this team now that he's hearing entrenched, this is it is.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
His time, Like this is the time of the year
where GM stepped to the forefront, head coaching stepped to
the back. So this is his this is his time
to say, you know what, now, let me put my
footprints on this team. Let me put this team in
a better place than we were last year. Like that's
all a GM could do is say, I'm just gonna
put us in a better place than we were last year.
(02:57):
But it's up to coach Quinn to cook it. I
can supply the ingredients, but he has the cookie.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know, I love last year. I believe it was
produced by the Commanders. They were showing that draft specialty,
entire process in the draft room. And remember he was talking,
Adam Peters was talking to Harry Roseman trying to work
a deal, and finally.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
He was like, it's such a pen of the ass.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, just being real being out of that, Like, you
got to realize these negotiations, especially with thirty two high
scrung guys.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It's competitive.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's a competitive because everybody trying to one up each other. Yeah,
so I think about this every time you receive a call,
you know, that other person on the other side of
the line trying to get over on you.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, like every time, and you have to be careful
because they're subtle about it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Who is this this to Arizona Corton? What you want?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I want to get over.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
On you, right, that's I'm trying to pull a fast
one like that. That's what what it is. That's the
game that they play, like who can leave this deal
in the green?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Because somebody got being read right.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Everybody'll say we want to deal against the Texas. Everybody
say we wanted to deal against San Francisco. Like, so, like,
at what point and how do you have to talk
to these people to get them and say.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yes, I'm going to let you get to one over
on me.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And then sometimes you get a gift like hello, what
you want. Anthony Davis said, this is Luca.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Hold on, let me Yeah, we'll do it. That's a
tough one. We'll do it. Yeah, let me call you back, Like,
come on, at what point does the.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Deal the art of deal making? That's what it is
that government. Yeah, like that's politicians. Like the art of
deal making. You have to be so gifted to have
somebody on the line know that you're getting over on
them but making them feel like they win it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, like that's art. That's a art that most men
are not good at. Now women they're very good. I
can see out of the corner. Something to say about that.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
While speaking of winning, what team wanted free agency in
this offseason, Well, we're still in the midst.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And I had to like nudge us back on you
bring us by. I think the New England Patriots got better.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
They had dis is huge, so much money to spend,
they had to spend it. I think they got Drake
Mason weapons. I think they got better all around the roster.
I think they was a roster that just didn't have talent.
I think they got faster in the wide receiver room
by better in the deeper in the OI receiver room.
I just think they are a better team. I think
(05:51):
they got better. I would say, uh, the Raiders got better. Yep,
I would says bringing Pete carrolln made that. I can
say Carroll himself made them better. Seattle got better. Yeah,
all right, So it's some teams out here that got
better than free agency. But when you go how many
(06:13):
time have we seen a team go out and sign
a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Free, big name free agents and it just doesn't equate,
the win doesn't pan out. Yeah, So that's why I
like I train of thought.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I big free How big people came from trades, not
from free agency. Yeah right, So I think you have
to look at us as a I was, as addition
and subtraction, not just additions. Like the one thing about
free agency is when you get into a bid in war,
you're going to overpay.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's a tricky thing to maneuver too, which is why
guys like Adam Peters matter in a big way. Like
we're willing to pay so much and then we decide
it isn't worth our money.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It ain't worth our money, like all right, most people
say sixty nine million dollars steff On Digs is not
worth that at this time he is on the market
because the market is buying a house. This house is
listed for seven hundred thousand. I end up playing eight
to fifty four because five other people was being on it.
Is this house worth eight fifty No? But guess what
(07:16):
once everybody get to put their bid in, it goes up.
So shoppers beware in free agency, and people always want
to be like, why they pay him this? Why they
pay him this? That's the going rate on the market.
When you had to bed when you train, ain't no bidding.
It's about what you're willing to give up.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Patriots did a nice shot too, defensively adding some pieces
what you would expect, you know, with.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Mike Rabelo's head coach.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But also Drake may needed a number one guy because
it was Patriot receivers.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That room was not a very No, that room was
a bald head. That room had no hairry in it.
That room would just try to be nice.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But no, if then and now it sets them up
to do what we're doing, and let's take best play
available in the draft. Like now they don't have to
go out here and hope that a rook he feels
a gap like that's the worst thing you want to do.
And his the NFL teams had to go in and say,
I'm gonna draf up this rookie and.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We have to hit on him.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, and we need him to hit from day one,
like you don't want to put your job on that.
And that's why the Giants went got Russell and James
because front office, like the head coach, everybody's.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Kind of like, we need to win now. Can't do
it with a rookie out all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So I'm not one of these guys that I'm gonna
put my job on the line for somebody fresh out
of college I want.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
The Rams did a nice shot bringing in Davante Adams.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It's interesting too because for a while look like they
were gonna shot Matthew Stafford. They just kind of dangled
it out there, like what is he worth on the market.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Then they said, now we'll keep him. They obviously have
Pook and the CoA.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Now they have Davonte Adams, and the Rams are gonna
be a problem because the Niners have really fallen off.
They'll be better this year, I think, but they're not
the juggern out they work, you're great.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So the Fordyner is gonna pay Brock perdyal what they're
gonna have to, right, it's Brock Purdy, the broody, the
beauty queen with the dead tooth in my mouth. Because
nobody wants to say he's a game manager, or like
nobody wants to say he's good. But quarterbacks, I tell
(09:16):
people our time, eight billion people on.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
This planet to think it's the market. Who else are
they gonna get? Well, Shanahan's have never been prisoners to players.
But can you afford not to pay him? Though?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean really, I mean he is a I can't
afford to pay an average quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I can't afford to pay him forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't disagree. That's that's gonna be a tough.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I can't do that and then keep a Christian McCaffrey.
I can't do that and keep a brand in a Yuk.
I can't do that. The first rule of paying a
quarterback is he a force multiplier?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I do he need everything to be right around here?
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm a big Dak Prescott guy because he's Missippi state
board dogs.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Get that wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The one thing I know about Dak is as good
as he is, he's not what they call it force multiply.
DK need everything to be perfect around him. He need
the offensive line to be perfect. He needs one or
two receivers, and he need a run game. Patrick Mahomes
don't need that, right, Patrick mahon can manifest that.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's why when.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Brady was in his prime, they just throw whoever was
there around him.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Mitchie Reynolds get a wire receiver like, it doesn't matter
because I'm a force multiplier.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I'm going to make you better.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
When you overpay a guy that's not a force multiplier,
you become a prisoner to his payroll check. Right now,
Dallas is not going to be reach their peak, not
because they don't have players, because they You can't pay
a B player.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
A money, right, And I felt like for years they.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Was paying like the fifth best player at their position.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Number one money. They were playing deck number one money.
Nobody think he's.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
A top five it back Ceedee Lamb is good to
see deee Lamb is he's making top five money.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I don't think he a top five receiver. Do you
think he is? Yeah? No, I don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Jamar Chase, Okay, Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, Tarreik is better
to First of all, Tarik is a bigger threat.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He said, sure, though, like he was really off last season.
Well that because Tour was off. Tour didn't play like
you a prisoner. CD's younger.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Nobody right now? If we did a draft, would you
take Ceede lamb Old Tyreek?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yes? Why because Tyreek?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You could make an argument that Tyreek because Tyreek's a
little bit older.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Now, but he ain't lost a step.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
He hasn't lost a step, but he wasn't as productives
as we've seen in previous years, and CD could get
even better.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
No, CD, think about this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
CD probably got the ball through to him one hundred
and ninety times last year.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Tyreek didn't get those numbers. Ceed is a volume.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Guy and CD is to me a slot extraordinaire. He
makes all of his big plays in the slot. That
mean he's not getting touched. Why aren't you on the outside, right?
You ain't on the outside because you got a problem
with getting off the jam. All I'm saying is the
Cowboys had five people, including the Marcus Lawrence as.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
A top five pass rush. Now should they be paying
all those guys? That's a different conversation, but they paid them.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And if you pay them top five money and they're
not a top five talent.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You will fail. Right, So if the.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Forty nine ers pay and I understand if they pay
him top ten money he's not a top ten quarterback,
they will fail.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Let me ask you this because I think this is
an interesting question. So how much faith do you put in?
Like we all know the colle Shanahan is a great
offensive mind, right, I can all agree on that. Doesn't
it really depend more than anything on what Kyle Shanahan
thinks of Brock Party Because we can say, okay, well
he's above average, he's not as good as the best
quarterbacks in the league, he's just a game.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Manager, all these different things.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But doesn't it really come down to what Kyle Shanahan
thinks of Brock Party because if he believes in Brock Party,
they'll sign him to a max deal.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You don't need but one person to believe in you.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Right, that's your head coach, Especially a coach has an
offensive mind.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And when you say faith, is it faith of a
mustard seed? That you're refined too?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Because I think he got faith in him. I think
he likes him as a quarterback. But like I said,
the Shanahan's as a family period is.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
How should I.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Say they understand that players are replaceable?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And that's what I'm getting at.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Like, if you're Kyle Shanahan and you know that you
could probably win with another quarterback if you believe in
your system enough, if you believe in yourself enough, do
you say I'll pay you like we were talking about,
but only so much because I know I can get
someone else to still run this offense?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Can I ask you this? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
If they said no, we're not going to pay you
and traded him to the Pittsburgh Steelers and they took
Jackson Dart, I don't mind that.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Are they I like it? I'm gonna say, are they
any less formidable? It's a good point.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Wouldn't you rather hey brought pretty less and take a
flyer on Jackson Dart?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I would? I would think about this.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
If I traded Rock Party to the Pittsburgh Stod, I
could probably get their first round pick, giving me two
first round picks and the ability to Jenny the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, and let's say signed Aaron Rodgers per year.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Because I think as much as the forty nine ers
don't want to say this. They in the rebuild. They
don't want to say that. They don't want to say it.
They don't want to speak it. I'm sorry, I love Trent.
Trent is thirty seven years old.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, that window and Christian McCaffrey always banged up.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You just lost all of these free agents. You don't
want to say you in the rebel. You are in
a rebel. If I am, I am the brain trust
of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I trade Rock Party and I take Jackson Dark.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So you take the assets that they have right now,
you say, Okay, it's time to get some value for these.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Guys we have while we have them. I want their
first rounder.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I want if I can get it, something for Trent
and like whatever, Like I'm having enough fire sale right now.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's not a bad idea. Actually, Oh and it says
we need a wrap. So let's let's tell everyone. You
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Speaker 6 (15:50):
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Speaker 3 (15:54):
I go for a ladies first.
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me knocking on your door, Jinx, I'm gonna take a
wood ship and we we're about to go showed up
my doors. Yes, we could take a wood ship with
no molder on it.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, there won't be a podcast. You'd say, let's have
a good conversation. Let's go. We're go fire and talk.
We're going to the New Land. Yeah, oh do you
got GPS? No? I do they have food service on
the ship? No? And you know what, we wouldn't talk football.
You'd be like, hey, who is the best horseshoe player?
(17:41):
You know? I'd be like, I don't know, I don't know.
Down the street.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Augustus the Third, like, think about just how adventurous and
fearless people.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
At this time was, Oh yeah, I think about Jesus
ravaging population.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Just a Mario vescuc Is just come to you and
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Say no.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Right here.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That's why I really do show the past a lot
of love, because I felt like the people were fearless
like this is uncharted territory, and I don't do that now.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I don't take cruises like the one thing I have
never did is take a cruise never. I don't want to.
I don't want to. I'm just the dude to fall
in the ocean and the cruise ship leave happened, Honestly, Yes,
I just don't want to. So imagine a wood ship
with no GPS or none of that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We don't even know where we're gonna laying at. That's true,
That is what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It gets me when I think about I hear stories
back then, especially when talking when you're talking about medicine.
Is when they would have a blood letting. This guy's sick. Man,
let him bleed out for a while, they would get better.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, let's go put like some leeches on it. You
know who gives me a high. Sewan Springs. Let's springing man.
And that is his picture on the screen right now.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
As promised, we got to bring in our guy, Sean Springs.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Talk a little defense. Sean ain't doing man looking good?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
All right, Hey man, I'm happy to see my guys. Man,
I miss y'all. We ain't seen each other in a minute, man,
I love you guys. Man.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, it's been too long. Man, It's been way too long.
I know Fred has been talking about give me a
hard time, but you guys need to catch up. I
feel like it's been too long for sure.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, I'm doing good in life. I don't need friends
like him.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah he said she was looking good. I don't want
to second that motion. Maybe on the back of your
neck or something like that, but I got I got
to ask you this question, man. So far this off season,
the moves that Adam Peters have made I thought was
Jedi Like I thought getting tunsl for what he got,
Tunsled for getting Deebo Samuels for what he got him,
(19:56):
for the guys that he's brought in, especially from the
New England Jonathan Jones Wise, all these guys, I thought
was masterful. How do you view what Washington has done
this offseason so far?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It feels good to have a real GM. You know,
when you look at the moves that Adam is making it,
I mean he's building a team in the right way.
You know, you're getting veteran guys like a Debo who's
proven has success in the league. Larry Tunsel who's just big, physical,
can protect the blind side of a quarterback and you
need a left tackle to protective quarterback. You know, just
(20:35):
solid guys who play in the league, who are tough guys.
Maybe not household names like Jonathan Jones, but a really
good player in New England, uh, jayvon Kinlad. I mean,
I mean the guys he's familiar with from Jets. I
mean just really really good football players.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Man, Sean, how much better do you think this secondary
is going to be now? With Jones and Latimer and
Sanry Still and I mean, they've really solidified what we
see on the back. They got the extra your experience,
especially when you talk about a guy like Mikey.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Well, first of all, you know, we saw a secondary
last year that you know, started off shaky, uh in
the first game Tampa, that we thought, you know, smoothing
us and all of them the podcasts, we thought that
played extremely well down the stretch in the playoffs, who
played really really well. They weren't the weakness. I mean,
you know, Mikey looked like by the time of the
(21:26):
end of the year for him from a rookie to
let like, this guy is gonna be all pro corner
and now you ad you know you had Will and
you just you Teugh the experience a lot of more.
Who's gonna be healthy coming into this season? I mean, man,
we got a pretty good secondary.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The fun and good part about this is we have
the luxury of having o Adam Peters on that pod,
on that podcast, and I'm sure you can't get him
on yours. So I'm going to ext you this draft
situation Ohio State. Who's the best running back there is?
The quinc Juken? Is it Travion Henderson? Because me myself,
(22:04):
as much as I like Jakins, I really do. I
think if I had to draft one to the Washington
football team, it will be Trevion Henderson AKA.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And he's a guy that's from Virginia.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah yeah, well I think they're both are excellent choices man,
and uh you know one. I mean it's like they
both can run.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Man.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
You know, we look at Travion and he's you're right,
You're right. He's from Petersburgh, Virginia, and he has tremendous speed.
He's a home run hitter. But when you look at
Jenkins and like he's just a physical guy, but he
still has enough speed to break away and they both
are really really good football players. Man, can we drop
both of them from Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, you know what, I don't know if drafting from
Ohio State has been beneficial for us in the past.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I really don't know, not that I look at the
players that we drafted from there.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
But like I said, if I had to take one
and put one on his roster, It'll be Travion Henderson
because I think he I think he has that home
run Hites mentality with the speed, the breakaway speed. I
think he's great in the past game and I think
he's an underrated pass blocker. So I would think there'll
be the guy that I don't know if he gets
to the second day.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I don't know if he gets to the second round.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, I would agree Smooth. I think you know that
that he got a little bit of separation when it
comes to like has ability to take a catch eighty
off a screen instantly. So I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
When you look at this team and what they need
in the draft or even you know before the season
you know gets underway via trade or whatever it is.
You keep hearing they need an edge, they need an
edge and I know Smooth agrees with that to a point,
but also says, maybe that's overstated.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
How do you feel.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I think that if you want to be a real
contender in the NFL, you have to be strong in
the interior offense and defensive line. And then when you
need a play to be made in the playoffs, you
got to have that adge dresser. You got to have
that guy when when you're back it's against the wall,
A guy who can win the one on one on
one battle, who can you know, be the tackle, be
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the right tackle or someone and you need that. I
don't think you can go deep into the playoffs with
a guy who can Blue give you that pressure.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I dispute that Blue because when I.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
You know, pass rushes everything.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Brother, Yes, but I believe past Rustler from the interior
is better than the exterior. I look at the Philadelphia Eagles,
Jalen Carter, that was the That's the guy that makes
things happen. I look at the cat and Cy the chief,
Chris Jones makes things happen. I look at the Rams.
Uh who who I'm thinking about?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Uh? The Rams? There? Donald Aaron Donald?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like I hear, I hear, I hear all that. But
we all we all know if Hutcheson doesn't get hurt
for Detroit, that's a whole different team.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
That is.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
But you know, Tjan Fran, you know, but you know
both sass san Fran makes that defense go. You know, tj.
This person makes that defense stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And he's got zero playoff wins, zero playoff wins, Garrett
zero playoff wins, zero playoff wins, Mayoff Garrett zero playoff wins,
dj WHTT, zero playoff wins. Do all of the Edge
Russia and scruddinaires. You show me interior D tackle that
gets at least his team in tackle. I'll show you
a Super Bowl winner playoff contender.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Well, well, well I understand that, but you can't put
the playoffs on it. Obviously, if you want to go
to the playoffs, you gotta get a line in the
interior O line and D line, and you got to
have a quarterback. We both know that, So don't put
it on that. But come on, man, you know you know,
Edge rushes our premium because it's smooth, as you know,
it changes defense when you're back there. When you're back there,
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you're playing zone and you can sit back there and
keep your vision on the ball and vision on the quarterback.
And you know that ball has to come out because
there's a d N right there that everybody is afraid of.
You know that changes the game?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
No, no, no, no, no no no. The tackles changed
the game, all right. One step changed the game like detap,
like like I'm telling you right now, and.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Who you said? Show me? In Super Bowl Team Bruce
Smith took Buffalo to four super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And gets how many super Bowls he was? He got
as many super Bowls as a dead man?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Zero? He got zero super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
The number one second man in the NFL history got
zero Super Bowl Reggie White. Reggie White was actually with
slash interior. He went from d N to d tackle
in a split up beer eyde.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Okay, okay, let's talk about this. Probably the best defensive
player to ever played the game, and probably Launch Time
Taylor as launch tailor. Yes, he is why people know
laws tailor because he was bowling off the edge.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And guess what it ain't been.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You don't even think about him as a linebacker. And
I remember one you don't think about breaking Joe.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Ye enough anomaly at its best, he's the greatest defensive
player to ever play the game. It's never been another one.
It ain't gonna be another one. But when I do
my case study through frednalytics, this is what I do.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Find out that itlyics based on Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
What makes that line's defense so much better coming off
the edge?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
He make it better coming off the edge. But it's
proven through time and and and and me in my
studies that the tackles affect the game, uh a nuch
more than edge.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I can actually on offense.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I can come up with a plan for edge Russia
that I can never do with a detackle. You can't
stop predominant detict.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I can tell you that it's called a double team.
It's called it's called.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But that's what great detaclers already used to They already
used to be. They already been used to being double team.
I can chip that edge. I can double team that.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I could do so.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Much on that edge. You showed me a great edge rushing.
I show you a high paid player with a big
name and no rings on his finger. The top five
pass rushes edge rushers in this game today are ring list.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Unless they married. They ain't got no rings on their fingers.
But how much of that? Honestly, I had to do
a team versus player Huh.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean, I'm like Miles Garret, right, no race, but
he plays with the Browns.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Listen what you want me to cry river for Males
Garret because he played for the brown I'm.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Just saying, like, one man cannot make that offense.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I can't sell.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Let's argue this. Would you argue that Dexter Manley and
Charles man are the reason in Washington rest Cans where
at the height of that defense the best defense tove
ever and.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I get and for every every one of them, For
every one of them, I give you a Chris Hamburger.
For every one of them, I'm gonna give you a
de tackle that's putting in the dirty work. Look the
second change there was that not the just had the
best pass rushing duo and they got no ring for it.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'm telling you the coming.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Denominator with edge Russians, high paid edge Russian is they're
usually gonna have a good a good ConA on their
team because guess what we do benefit from the edge Russian.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
But when it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Comes to rings manufacturer, Because let's go back to the
dynasty with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Okay, who was their best? Who were they best? Defensive lineman?
Richard Seymour, Richie.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Richard Seymour played in the okie front. He was the
d N. He was the.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He was a he was a five technique playing on
the and he had a seven and he had an
outside linebacker outside of him.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
All I'm telling you is interior defensive linements effect games
on another level than edge Russian. So while everybody out
here crying that we need to get an edge rusher,
I'm more about the interior defensive because the interior does
two things.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
I believe. I agree with that, But I'm just trying
to say, if you can manufacture sacks without having to
blitz and play zone changes?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yes it does.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And the shortest route till the quarterback is over the center,
all right through the center.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
But can you can I agree with all this, But
what I'm saying is, and I think where we can
come to an agreement here is if you're looking at
this defensive line, the interior of the line is set,
how much better would it be if it had an edge?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Who is more important to the Pittsburgh defense? Cam Hayward,
Tjytt if you.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Look at the metrics, it's TJ.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, because when you look at the metrics, you're looking
at stats. I'm looking at like TJ.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
As good as he is against the past, he ain't
nothing compared to Hayward when it comes to the run.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, but I mean it's the totality of a football player.
Right when he is out of the lineup. The Steelers
give up more yard to get more points. They're a
much worse football team defense. Michael Jenkins, Frits, Michael Jenkins,
let me ask.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You, is all right the last edge Russia to win
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That's great, Michael Strahand Yeah, probably.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
No, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Mir Let's go back to first at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Von Miller.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
That's the last. That's that's the last one, all right.
Everything else is interior. Chris Jones has dominated this decade
Mississippi State.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Bull that's because of Patrick mahonmes right.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Dominated.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
No, no, no, no, let's be.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
They were giving out forty points a game.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You know they want listen a pair of lifts, a
tailor line. You telling one right now. Let's be honest
about this. Chris Jones has dominated the trenches the last
ten years of NFL football has been dominated by a
d tackle.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, that is true. He's the second best. He tackle
on the last year.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
No, are you serious, who's the first one?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Aaron Donald?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I get you there?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
All right?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
What are we talking about? You know what? I don't
tell you right much?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But yes, I think I think Chris is better gets
the run than Aaron Donald was.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I will say.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
That Aaron Donald man not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Oh no, no, listen, You'll never hear me hate on
Aaron Donald. By the way, I think Pitt University Mike
got more Hall of Famers than O State.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Now, if I'm correctly, o Holli State has the most
Hall of Famers in the NFL period.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Now you'll see t is a na You need.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
To check that.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You gotta be careful jumping out there. We talking about
the buck Eyes, bro, you got the most all of
my gotta be careful, Bro.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I don't know that they got Larry Fitzgeryal, they got
Darrel Reeves, they got Damn Marino.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Mean Joe Green Like.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I'm just saying now, all right, don't mean you agree
went to went to North.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Texas, he did.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, she went to you went to University Wa.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yes, knock it off to green and white bro relies.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I think people be shocked to see how many hall
of famers that pet University has. Pete more Hall of
famers than Peen State. But Peen State is known as
the football school.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's true, No, there's not. Penn State is not even
known as football school in their own conference WIVE State.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
As I understand, the big teams sean before we let
you go. This has been a great edge discussion. By
the way, what would you do it? Twenty nine in
the draft?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Just go? Best athletes are so many have an eye
on you for the commanders.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I think at this point where first of all, let's
talk about free agency, signing back some of our veterans
like Bobby and Trash and Mariota, some of the leadership
that lets you know that they feel comfortable with the
leadership or team as well as some of the and
I think Adam done at their job of filling in
with the replacing the d linemen and the corners and situations.
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But I think the team is going for the best
athlete right now. Who's the best available player at that's available? Yep, yep,
most available player at twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I think from the free agenty moves in the offseason,
best play available.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, and you know and free agency, like the best
thing that ever happened is smooth was me and free agency. Baby,
that changed his life. They just want to let y'all
know that that changed his life. That they were doing
in bad jins and then I saved him the champ
dion and them had him out there bad that I
made him into something they ain't raised him right, I
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raised him right, that's my son right there.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Well, I'm sorry to jump in really quickly, but uh,
I was sent the hall of famers. Schools with the
most hall of famers?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Are you ready? Yes?
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Number one is Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Notre Dame has the most hall of famers. Not Ohio
State A right, so he was already right there.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Nick to University of Southern California.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Us C, y'all USC.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Who else?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Three is Michigan, Michigan, got y'all with you living then
Ohio State is tied with Pitt.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Ohio State is tied with Pitt.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
We we got a couple coming in now, but don't
worry about it. Couple coming in.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I don't see you, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
The one thing I can say about Ohio State, they
will sell you a dirty old shoe and tell you that.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Brand new.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Jordan's Ohio State is the future.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Boy, Hey, not the rod with their bluefoot. Man, thank
you for coming home. Man, it's been great. Hey Sean,
it's always going to see your face, come and see us,
Come and see us.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Though I need to come see need a little more professional. Listen.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
That's when I said, we'll talk to you man. That's
you been here man, always see Seawan. We'll get him
in here bringing in that's my guy. Man, We're bigger.
That's what we do. That's what we always did. Like
he's an awkward dude.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Like the first time, like we signed him, I was
in the locker room working out.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
It was the off season. I was just chilling. I
used to stay here in the off season.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
And he walks in there right out he side his contract.
He introduces himself to me only the way that Shun
Spreeds came, just as arrogant as he could be. He
shakes my hand and say, it's a privilege for you
to play with me. I can't wait for you to
be the robbin to my batman.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
What did you say to that?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I was like, who are you?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Like, dude, what is wrong with y'all?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Like, dude, you know I just played with like three
yellow jackets right right, like who are you?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
He like, there's nothing. That's when I was like, this
dude right here, You're like I like him, Like he's
on his own, like the one thing you don't have
to worry about with shun springs. He all wnt have confidence.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah I didn't watch this do get burnt for one
hundred yards and he just like, I'm so damn good.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
And I'm like, You're not. You just you smoking a cigarette? Yeah,
you just lost the game. I'm still crazy. You just
lost the game singer handily by yourself. Hey, this hill Man.
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Speaker 5 (38:00):
Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Ask me Michael Jenkins. Jenks a great guy, but when
I really want to pick your brain? All right, this
is this where we're going year two of this gig
right here? Does it feel different this year than last year?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Because I know, like last year was laying the foundation
and I'm sure it had to be hard with you.
You know, the first year you're doing the job. But
now you in the second year, it's kind of routine.
Does it feel sort of like the same?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
I think it hit the nail on the head. We've
done everything once for the most part.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Yeah, they're still always surprises.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
But last year I was almost like a chicken with
my head cut off trying to figure everything out.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
You know, where is this? Where's new home? Everything?
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Riding?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Right?
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Yeah, I'm living in an apartment, you know, And so
I feel a lot more settled now.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Personally.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
I think last year almost felt like a startup in
terms of, you know, it's just a few of us
doing free agency, a few of us, and now we
have a full staff. We're able to hire a full
staff over the off season, and we got a lot
of great people in place, which is awesome. So a
lot slower, a lot less hectic, and a.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Little bit more methodical in the way you're doing things.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
And like you said, you did have to put a
lot of people in place when you first got here,
and not only put them in place, understand where you
was in the hierarchy to get things done.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Does it like, what's the biggest thing that you learned
from last year that you bring into this year when
it comes to the GM job.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Yeah, I think, but really the biggest thing, and I
think I knew this, but I really really solidified it
this year.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Is bringing in great people, you know.
Speaker 7 (39:29):
Yeah, and that's players like yourself, right, and coaches and
then our staff. So bringing in great people, like minded people,
people that are we're not just looking for commanders as
players look of commanders in our front office and our
coaching staff. So surrounding yourself with the great people that
love the work, that love ball. I think that's been
the biggest thing is and that's really helped us like
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throughout the whole organization.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
And not just bringing these people in.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
You have to actually like trust them to do what
you asked them to do and what you hired them
to do. And I know from playing sometimes it's harder.
That's easier said than done, you.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Know, Yeah, you really try to hire people that you
think can carry what you're trying to do when you're
not there. Yeah, And so I think we've done a
great job of that. We have an incredible staff, incredible
coaching staff, and the players all are you know, they're
all real commanders. The guys we brought in in the
off season, the guys we brought in last year, the
guys we drafted.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
So we feel really good about that.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And when you say commanders, because I've heard this time
and time again in the culture and everything, when you
shopping for a player, you don't just look at the
free agent list and say, Okay, who's the best free agent?
You say, no, I'm looking for guys that fit the
ingredients of a commander.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
What what are those ingredients?
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah, that's a big secret.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
You can't give me that sixteen.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
You give me the main ingredients for not the secret ones.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Could you take me just a day, because the one
thing I had always said is if I want to
do something in football, at the football, it will be
a gm a vera whole job with a lot of pressure.
Could you take me down through an average day when
free agency begins, which you still having the draft looming
behind you.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
You really have to compartmentalize because free agency, especially last
year and then this year as well. We had twenty
eight free agents this year, so we had to really
fill in a lot of Yeah, so you almost put
the draft on pause for that week and really dig
into free agency and dig into the phone calls, calling
the agents, you know, talking to the coach, to our
coaches and our staff and really building that and making
(41:34):
sure that all right, here's the guys we're really targeting,
and again trying to target those commanders.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
That we talked about.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
But if that guy, we don't get that guy, or
that price is too high, who's our next guy? And
so really that week you're just hitting pause on the
draft and then as soon as you fill that in
when we signed tons of guys, we feel really good now,
but we're going into free agency. We had the second
least players on our roster in the whole NFL. Yeah,
and so after we did that, now we can turn
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back to the draft and.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Now we're full speed into the draft.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Did you look at this free agency?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Say, you know, I read a will and deal with
some teams because with Laramie Tooms was like, I got
to give you some props.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I feel like you stole.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Him and getting a guy like him and getting Deebo Samuels.
Did you sit out you know, I got my eye
on these guys or did you understand the situation those
teams was going through.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
I think yeah, both are different.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
I think with with Deebo being available, I'll start with Debo, yeah,
And with him being available and knowing Deebo since really
before we drafted in in San Francisco, we actually coached
him at the Senior Bowl too, so we got to
wrote him really early. Ye, and then seeing who he is,
how he plays, how he works, what kind of teammate
he is, and then obviously seeing firsthand in person how
he can change a game.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Like he is.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
True, he's a whiper, yeah he is.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
He is somebody who lifts everybody else competitively on the field.
So having that opportunity, that was really cool to get
him and get Jaden in our offense another weapon that
can take it to the house at any time. And
then the other thing we really wanted to do is
is get a left tackle, a great left tackle, and
those are hard.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
They don't follow, They only don't come available, like.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
The usually don't.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
You're right, and so we were like, especially picking twenty
ninth in the draft, yeah, okay, can we find a
real left tackle, like a starting left tackle? Brandon calm
It did an incredible job he did last year and
he can play anywhere on the line, which is great.
So let's find, like, you know, an elite left tackle
that you know, Jaden can feel really great and comfortable
with covering his blind side. And so when that opportunity
(43:30):
came about, you know, we jumped on it and we
thought it was really important to do that. And you
know it's you know, after that, it's just yeah, find
the compensation.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I think it changes the hierarchy of the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Like you said, with Coleman being able to move from
here to here, it just takes it up to another level.
And not not just these guys that you brought through
trades and free agents, what about our own guys that
you brought back with Bobby Waglan and Zach Ertz. How
important was it to bring these locker room star wars
back and to keep things moving forward?
Speaker 7 (43:59):
Yeah, that was our priority, is to bring our guys back,
the guys that we saw as commanders, and we targeted
a lot of our own free agents because those are
the guys that really were the core of how what
we did last year. Guys like Bobby, guys like Zach,
So those are the first order of business really, and
bringing those guys back and their leadership and not only
their leadership, but they're play on the field, giving somebody
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that like for in Zach's case, a weapon for Jayden
that he knows is going to always be open safety recovery.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Is the quarterbacks favorite free and in his league.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
And then Bobby is the leader of the team and
the quarterback of the defense. So getting those guys back
that was priority one A and one B really, along
with other guys like Marcus and then those guys. But
it was really really cool to get those guys back
and they wanted to be back, which.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Was really neat.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, I've been say not just dn't want to be here.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
It's it's the buzz around the league that a lot
of players look at us as a destination and I
was here doing the other times where we wasn't a destination.
So as an X player, it feels good that people
is seeking a out right now.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
So I begged it up most definitely. And I got
to ask you the way you go about free agency?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Do you go about gris as you get things done
in free agency because you want to have a more
free flowing draft. You don't want to corner yourself in
the draft. You want to go in and say, you
know what, if I want to go best play a vaide,
I don't care who it is.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
Yeah, I think you always want to go into a
draft with that mindset, and you never really want to
go into a draft saying I need to draft this
position or this player, because that's you know, oftentimes that's
when you make a mistake. When you reach for a guy,
You talk yourself into a guy being better than he
is just because you need it.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
So bad.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
So we feel really good that we don't have to
reach for a certain position or player. We can go
in and you know, pick the best guy that fits
our team at any position.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Really yep, and I think I think this is very sport.
I think that's very awesome. Newsome on you right there.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I like that right there. Now we're gonna play a
game and a set up a game for you. It's tightening,
right yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
So we're gonna do it in college guys.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, junior college, baby, understand. We know how hard it
is to get through stuff. I appreciate people that with
the junior college it's not easy. Favoritebody, all right, we
got a tight ends least I want you to draft
the top five tight ends of all time, your top five.
So it's not really a wrong answer here.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
You can go off of the sheet if you don't
have you.
Speaker 7 (46:17):
Yeah, you got some guys, but well you said one
of the guys that definitely belongs in consideration. You just
said his name Ozzie Newsom Newson, and he's you know,
Hall of famer as a player and as a executive.
In my mind, definitely, But you know, there's so many
tight ends, and you know, those are the guys I
looked up to, obviously, So you know there's guys that
were I didn't see Mike Dick to play.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Right, all right, need one but he but he.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I'm sure belongs in guys like John Mackie. You know
those guys.
Speaker 7 (46:47):
I can't speak to the guys growing up that I
really liked or I think you if you're going top five,
you can't leave off Tony g Right guns has.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Played against him. One of the hardest covers is a
tight end.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, so we both agree with him and Assie newsoon
so we two for two, right now.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Okay, I think you gotta throw a Gronk in there.
Speaker 7 (47:06):
It's a little bit of recency bias, but you know
my lifetime Gronk's pretty special.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Grunk is special. Where are you a uh mmm? Who
am I thinking about? Jeremy Shocky? Guy?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Shocky is good because I thought Jeremy Shocky shock the
world for a second, right there? Keith Byers, Keith Well,
Keith Jackson, King Jackson, mean yeah, Keith Jackson, and you.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Got let's go, uh the original Kellen Winslow.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yes, you all right? For the Sandago charges. Yeah, yeah,
all right, So there's four.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
I got, well, and we've more than five.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I will watch it out. Stop For who else you got?
Speaker 5 (47:47):
I got a sleeper for you. You gotta come up.
Russ Francis. Russ Francis for the Patriots ers, Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
What about the forty nine ers? Now we can't leave
our brid Jones now.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
But Jones' the reason why we wore eighty four heroes.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Right, that's what I'm talking about. And you got who
you got?
Speaker 5 (48:07):
You got kittled Now he's pretty.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Good cowboys also with what's his name? Whedon?
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a good one long.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Line of tight ends.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Great position.
Speaker 7 (48:19):
It's a hard position. Man, you got a block, you
got to catch, you gotta know everything.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
So who you feel if you had to pick one,
was the most equal in both it's a pass catcher
and there's a blocker, the most complete tight end.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Who would you go? Jayon ovcheck?
Speaker 7 (48:35):
I think you know what was really cool about Tony
Exhaust is he was not a blocker when he started. Yeah,
but by the end of his career he became a
good blocker. Was he a dominant block No, but he
was good even an elite receiver.
Speaker 5 (48:47):
So I think and he.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Had one of the most elite offensive lines I've ever
seen with Will Shields and the rist of those guys
they had, so I think they told him put the
pressure on him to block.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, most definitely this.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
This was very Thank you for taking time, if for getting.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
Loud, Thanks for being here, Pete.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Thanks thanks.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Three, six, seven, nine seven.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Most definitely we also get to talk to my boy
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My key, you'd be a star on My kids tried
to get me on their TikTok.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I refuse to do it because I'm just dirty, old man,
just not.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Gonna do it.
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But I don't think you know, we come back. We
come from a generation of battle rappers. We have seen
it all. We have seen the Tupac Biggie. We have
seen what we have seen it all. I have never
seen somebody getting man him.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Like Drake has got man. Now you got destroyed, like, yeah,
it happened.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I saw Adam Peters destroys the rest of the NFL
with his Right.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Now, Adam Peters is Adam Lamar. He's gonna be on
the show. Yes, he's Adam Lamar.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Right now he is killing it like I'm gonna tell
you how good he is. He said, I'm going to
look at the free agent landscape and he looked at
it and he studied it and he said, it's nothing
there that I really want. And he figured out a
way to go to the Texans. He realized that they
was in out hell. He said, you know what, They're
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gonna have to give up somebody something. He's looked at
the San Francisco forty nine ers. They are in cap hell.
They're gonna have to give up somebody for the cheap
and he built this roster through that train of thought.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That's that's unbelieved. That's not like us.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I bet that's the first time Adam Peters has been
compared to Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
He's a helicompetent thought Adam Lamar.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
He's gonna talk about getting ready for the NFL draft
kind of his process. Yes, you know what's next for
this team now that he's hearing entrenched, this is it is.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
His time, Like this is the time of the year
where GM stepped to the forefront, head coaching stepped to
the back. So this is his this is his time
to say, you know what, now, let me put my
footprints on this team. Let me put this team in
a better place than we were last year. Like that's
all a GM could do is say, I'm just gonna
put us in a better place than we were last year.
(02:57):
But it's up to coach Quinn to cook it. I
can supply the ingredients, but he has the cookie.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know, I love last year. I believe it was
produced by the Commanders. They were showing that draft specialty,
entire process in the draft room. And remember he was talking,
Adam Peters was talking to Harry Roseman trying to work
a deal, and finally.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
He was like, it's such a pen of the ass.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, just being real being out of that, Like, you
got to realize these negotiations, especially with thirty two high
scrung guys.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It's competitive.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's a competitive because everybody trying to one up each other. Yeah,
so I think about this every time you receive a call,
you know, that other person on the other side of
the line trying to get over on you.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, like every time, and you have to be careful
because they're subtle about it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Who is this this to Arizona Corton? What you want?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I want to get over.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
On you, right, that's I'm trying to pull a fast
one like that. That's what what it is. That's the
game that they play, like who can leave this deal
in the green?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Because somebody got being read right.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Everybody'll say we want to deal against the Texas. Everybody
say we wanted to deal against San Francisco. Like, so, like,
at what point and how do you have to talk
to these people to get them and say.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yes, I'm going to let you get to one over
on me.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And then sometimes you get a gift like hello, what
you want. Anthony Davis said, this is Luca.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Hold on, let me Yeah, we'll do it. That's a
tough one. We'll do it. Yeah, let me call you back, Like,
come on, at what point does the.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Deal the art of deal making? That's what it is
that government. Yeah, like that's politicians. Like the art of
deal making. You have to be so gifted to have
somebody on the line know that you're getting over on
them but making them feel like they win it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, like that's art. That's a art that most men
are not good at. Now women they're very good. I
can see out of the corner. Something to say about that.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
While speaking of winning, what team wanted free agency in
this offseason, Well, we're still in the midst.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And I had to like nudge us back on you
bring us by. I think the New England Patriots got better.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
They had dis is huge, so much money to spend,
they had to spend it. I think they got Drake
Mason weapons. I think they got better all around the roster.
I think they was a roster that just didn't have talent.
I think they got faster in the wide receiver room
by better in the deeper in the OI receiver room.
I just think they are a better team. I think
(05:51):
they got better. I would say, uh, the Raiders got better. Yep,
I would says bringing Pete carrolln made that. I can
say Carroll himself made them better. Seattle got better. Yeah,
all right, So it's some teams out here that got
better than free agency. But when you go how many
(06:13):
time have we seen a team go out and sign
a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Free, big name free agents and it just doesn't equate,
the win doesn't pan out. Yeah, So that's why I
like I train of thought.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I big free How big people came from trades, not
from free agency. Yeah right, So I think you have
to look at us as a I was, as addition
and subtraction, not just additions. Like the one thing about
free agency is when you get into a bid in war,
you're going to overpay.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's a tricky thing to maneuver too, which is why
guys like Adam Peters matter in a big way. Like
we're willing to pay so much and then we decide
it isn't worth our money.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It ain't worth our money, like all right, most people
say sixty nine million dollars steff On Digs is not
worth that at this time he is on the market
because the market is buying a house. This house is
listed for seven hundred thousand. I end up playing eight
to fifty four because five other people was being on it.
Is this house worth eight fifty No? But guess what
(07:16):
once everybody get to put their bid in, it goes up.
So shoppers beware in free agency, and people always want
to be like, why they pay him this? Why they
pay him this? That's the going rate on the market.
When you had to bed when you train, ain't no bidding.
It's about what you're willing to give up.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Patriots did a nice shot too, defensively adding some pieces
what you would expect, you know, with.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Mike Rabelo's head coach.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But also Drake may needed a number one guy because
it was Patriot receivers.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That room was not a very No, that room was
a bald head. That room had no hairry in it.
That room would just try to be nice.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But no, if then and now it sets them up
to do what we're doing, and let's take best play
available in the draft. Like now they don't have to
go out here and hope that a rook he feels
a gap like that's the worst thing you want to do.
And his the NFL teams had to go in and say,
I'm gonna draf up this rookie and.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We have to hit on him.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, and we need him to hit from day one,
like you don't want to put your job on that.
And that's why the Giants went got Russell and James
because front office, like the head coach, everybody's.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Kind of like, we need to win now. Can't do
it with a rookie out all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So I'm not one of these guys that I'm gonna
put my job on the line for somebody fresh out
of college I want.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
The Rams did a nice shot bringing in Davante Adams.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It's interesting too because for a while look like they
were gonna shot Matthew Stafford. They just kind of dangled
it out there, like what is he worth on the market.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Then they said, now we'll keep him. They obviously have
Pook and the CoA.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Now they have Davonte Adams, and the Rams are gonna
be a problem because the Niners have really fallen off.
They'll be better this year, I think, but they're not
the juggern out they work, you're great.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So the Fordyner is gonna pay Brock perdyal what they're
gonna have to, right, it's Brock Purdy, the broody, the
beauty queen with the dead tooth in my mouth. Because
nobody wants to say he's a game manager, or like
nobody wants to say he's good. But quarterbacks, I tell
(09:16):
people our time, eight billion people on.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
This planet to think it's the market. Who else are
they gonna get? Well, Shanahan's have never been prisoners to players.
But can you afford not to pay him? Though?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean really, I mean he is a I can't
afford to pay an average quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I can't afford to pay him forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't disagree. That's that's gonna be a tough.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I can't do that and then keep a Christian McCaffrey.
I can't do that and keep a brand in a Yuk.
I can't do that. The first rule of paying a
quarterback is he a force multiplier?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I do he need everything to be right around here?
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm a big Dak Prescott guy because he's Missippi state
board dogs.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Get that wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The one thing I know about Dak is as good
as he is, he's not what they call it force multiply.
DK need everything to be perfect around him. He need
the offensive line to be perfect. He needs one or
two receivers, and he need a run game. Patrick Mahomes
don't need that, right, Patrick mahon can manifest that.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's why when.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Brady was in his prime, they just throw whoever was
there around him.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Mitchie Reynolds get a wire receiver like, it doesn't matter
because I'm a force multiplier.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I'm going to make you better.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
When you overpay a guy that's not a force multiplier,
you become a prisoner to his payroll check. Right now,
Dallas is not going to be reach their peak, not
because they don't have players, because they You can't pay
a B player.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
A money, right, And I felt like for years they.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Was paying like the fifth best player at their position.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Number one money. They were playing deck number one money.
Nobody think he's.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
A top five it back Ceedee Lamb is good to
see deee Lamb is he's making top five money.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I don't think he a top five receiver. Do you
think he is? Yeah? No, I don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Jamar Chase, Okay, Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, Tarreik is better
to First of all, Tarik is a bigger threat.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He said, sure, though, like he was really off last season.
Well that because Tour was off. Tour didn't play like
you a prisoner. CD's younger.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Nobody right now? If we did a draft, would you
take Ceede lamb Old Tyreek?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yes? Why because Tyreek?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You could make an argument that Tyreek because Tyreek's a
little bit older.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Now, but he ain't lost a step.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
He hasn't lost a step, but he wasn't as productives
as we've seen in previous years, and CD could get
even better.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
No, CD, think about this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
CD probably got the ball through to him one hundred
and ninety times last year.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Tyreek didn't get those numbers. Ceed is a volume.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Guy and CD is to me a slot extraordinaire. He
makes all of his big plays in the slot. That
mean he's not getting touched. Why aren't you on the outside, right?
You ain't on the outside because you got a problem
with getting off the jam. All I'm saying is the
Cowboys had five people, including the Marcus Lawrence as.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
A top five pass rush. Now should they be paying
all those guys? That's a different conversation, but they paid them.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And if you pay them top five money and they're
not a top five talent.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You will fail. Right, So if the.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Forty nine ers pay and I understand if they pay
him top ten money he's not a top ten quarterback,
they will fail.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Let me ask you this because I think this is
an interesting question. So how much faith do you put in?
Like we all know the colle Shanahan is a great
offensive mind, right, I can all agree on that. Doesn't
it really depend more than anything on what Kyle Shanahan
thinks of Brock Party Because we can say, okay, well
he's above average, he's not as good as the best
quarterbacks in the league, he's just a game.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Manager, all these different things.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But doesn't it really come down to what Kyle Shanahan
thinks of Brock Party because if he believes in Brock Party,
they'll sign him to a max deal.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You don't need but one person to believe in you.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Right, that's your head coach, Especially a coach has an
offensive mind.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And when you say faith, is it faith of a
mustard seed? That you're refined too?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Because I think he got faith in him. I think
he likes him as a quarterback. But like I said,
the Shanahan's as a family period is.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
How should I.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Say they understand that players are replaceable?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And that's what I'm getting at.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Like, if you're Kyle Shanahan and you know that you
could probably win with another quarterback if you believe in
your system enough, if you believe in yourself enough, do
you say I'll pay you like we were talking about,
but only so much because I know I can get
someone else to still run this offense?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Can I ask you this? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
If they said no, we're not going to pay you
and traded him to the Pittsburgh Steelers and they took
Jackson Dart, I don't mind that.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Are they I like it? I'm gonna say, are they
any less formidable? It's a good point.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Wouldn't you rather hey brought pretty less and take a
flyer on Jackson Dart?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I would? I would think about this.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
If I traded Rock Party to the Pittsburgh Stod, I
could probably get their first round pick, giving me two
first round picks and the ability to Jenny the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, and let's say signed Aaron Rodgers per year.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Because I think as much as the forty nine ers
don't want to say this. They in the rebuild. They
don't want to say that. They don't want to say it.
They don't want to speak it. I'm sorry, I love Trent.
Trent is thirty seven years old.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, that window and Christian McCaffrey always banged up.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You just lost all of these free agents. You don't
want to say you in the rebel. You are in
a rebel. If I am, I am the brain trust
of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I trade Rock Party and I take Jackson Dark.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So you take the assets that they have right now,
you say, Okay, it's time to get some value for these.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Guys we have while we have them. I want their
first rounder.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I want if I can get it, something for Trent
and like whatever, Like I'm having enough fire sale right now.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's not a bad idea. Actually, Oh and it says
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I don't want to. I'm just the dude to fall
in the ocean and the cruise ship leave happened, Honestly, Yes,
I just don't want to. So imagine a wood ship
with no GPS or none of that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We don't even know where we're gonna laying at. That's true,
That is what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It gets me when I think about I hear stories
back then, especially when talking when you're talking about medicine.
Is when they would have a blood letting. This guy's sick. Man,
let him bleed out for a while, they would get better.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, let's go put like some leeches on it. You
know who gives me a high. Sewan Springs. Let's springing man.
And that is his picture on the screen right now.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
As promised, we got to bring in our guy, Sean Springs.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Talk a little defense. Sean ain't doing man looking good?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
All right, Hey man, I'm happy to see my guys. Man,
I miss y'all. We ain't seen each other in a minute, man,
I love you guys. Man.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, it's been too long. Man, It's been way too long.
I know Fred has been talking about give me a
hard time, but you guys need to catch up. I
feel like it's been too long for sure.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, I'm doing good in life. I don't need friends
like him.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah he said she was looking good. I don't want
to second that motion. Maybe on the back of your
neck or something like that, but I got I got
to ask you this question, man. So far this off season,
the moves that Adam Peters have made I thought was
Jedi Like I thought getting tunsl for what he got,
Tunsled for getting Deebo Samuels for what he got him,
(19:56):
for the guys that he's brought in, especially from the
New England Jonathan Jones Wise, all these guys, I thought
was masterful. How do you view what Washington has done
this offseason so far?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It feels good to have a real GM. You know,
when you look at the moves that Adam is making it,
I mean he's building a team in the right way.
You know, you're getting veteran guys like a Debo who's
proven has success in the league. Larry Tunsel who's just big, physical,
can protect the blind side of a quarterback and you
need a left tackle to protective quarterback. You know, just
(20:35):
solid guys who play in the league, who are tough guys.
Maybe not household names like Jonathan Jones, but a really
good player in New England, uh, jayvon Kinlad. I mean,
I mean the guys he's familiar with from Jets. I
mean just really really good football players.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Man, Sean, how much better do you think this secondary
is going to be now? With Jones and Latimer and
Sanry Still and I mean, they've really solidified what we
see on the back. They got the extra your experience,
especially when you talk about a guy like Mikey.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Well, first of all, you know, we saw a secondary
last year that you know, started off shaky, uh in
the first game Tampa, that we thought, you know, smoothing
us and all of them the podcasts, we thought that
played extremely well down the stretch in the playoffs, who
played really really well. They weren't the weakness. I mean,
you know, Mikey looked like by the time of the
(21:26):
end of the year for him from a rookie to
let like, this guy is gonna be all pro corner
and now you ad you know you had Will and
you just you Teugh the experience a lot of more.
Who's gonna be healthy coming into this season? I mean, man,
we got a pretty good secondary.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The fun and good part about this is we have
the luxury of having o Adam Peters on that pod,
on that podcast, and I'm sure you can't get him
on yours. So I'm going to ext you this draft
situation Ohio State. Who's the best running back there is?
The quinc Juken? Is it Travion Henderson? Because me myself,
(22:04):
as much as I like Jakins, I really do. I
think if I had to draft one to the Washington
football team, it will be Trevion Henderson AKA.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And he's a guy that's from Virginia.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah yeah, well I think they're both are excellent choices man,
and uh you know one. I mean it's like they
both can run.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Man.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
You know, we look at Travion and he's you're right,
You're right. He's from Petersburgh, Virginia, and he has tremendous speed.
He's a home run hitter. But when you look at
Jenkins and like he's just a physical guy, but he
still has enough speed to break away and they both
are really really good football players. Man, can we drop
both of them from Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, you know what, I don't know if drafting from
Ohio State has been beneficial for us in the past.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I really don't know, not that I look at the
players that we drafted from there.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
But like I said, if I had to take one
and put one on his roster, It'll be Travion Henderson
because I think he I think he has that home
run Hites mentality with the speed, the breakaway speed. I
think he's great in the past game and I think
he's an underrated pass blocker. So I would think there'll
be the guy that I don't know if he gets
to the second day.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I don't know if he gets to the second round.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, I would agree Smooth. I think you know that
that he got a little bit of separation when it
comes to like has ability to take a catch eighty
off a screen instantly. So I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
When you look at this team and what they need
in the draft or even you know before the season
you know gets underway via trade or whatever it is.
You keep hearing they need an edge, they need an
edge and I know Smooth agrees with that to a point,
but also says, maybe that's overstated.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
How do you feel.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I think that if you want to be a real
contender in the NFL, you have to be strong in
the interior offense and defensive line. And then when you
need a play to be made in the playoffs, you
got to have that adge dresser. You got to have
that guy when when you're back it's against the wall,
A guy who can win the one on one on
one battle, who can you know, be the tackle, be
(24:05):
the right tackle or someone and you need that. I
don't think you can go deep into the playoffs with
a guy who can Blue give you that pressure.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I dispute that Blue because when I.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
You know, pass rushes everything.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Brother, Yes, but I believe past Rustler from the interior
is better than the exterior. I look at the Philadelphia Eagles,
Jalen Carter, that was the That's the guy that makes
things happen. I look at the cat and Cy the chief,
Chris Jones makes things happen. I look at the Rams.
Uh who who I'm thinking about?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Uh? The Rams? There? Donald Aaron Donald?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like I hear, I hear, I hear all that. But
we all we all know if Hutcheson doesn't get hurt
for Detroit, that's a whole different team.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
That is.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
But you know, Tjan Fran, you know, but you know
both sass san Fran makes that defense go. You know, tj.
This person makes that defense stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And he's got zero playoff wins, zero playoff wins, Garrett
zero playoff wins, zero playoff wins, Mayoff Garrett zero playoff wins,
dj WHTT, zero playoff wins. Do all of the Edge
Russia and scruddinaires. You show me interior D tackle that
gets at least his team in tackle. I'll show you
a Super Bowl winner playoff contender.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Well, well, well I understand that, but you can't put
the playoffs on it. Obviously, if you want to go
to the playoffs, you gotta get a line in the
interior O line and D line, and you got to
have a quarterback. We both know that, So don't put
it on that. But come on, man, you know you know,
Edge rushes our premium because it's smooth, as you know,
it changes defense when you're back there. When you're back there,
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you're playing zone and you can sit back there and
keep your vision on the ball and vision on the quarterback.
And you know that ball has to come out because
there's a d N right there that everybody is afraid of.
You know that changes the game?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
No, no, no, no, no no no. The tackles changed
the game, all right. One step changed the game like detap,
like like I'm telling you right now, and.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Who you said? Show me? In Super Bowl Team Bruce
Smith took Buffalo to four super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And gets how many super Bowls he was? He got
as many super Bowls as a dead man?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Zero? He got zero super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
The number one second man in the NFL history got
zero Super Bowl Reggie White. Reggie White was actually with
slash interior. He went from d N to d tackle
in a split up beer eyde.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Okay, okay, let's talk about this. Probably the best defensive
player to ever played the game, and probably Launch Time
Taylor as launch tailor. Yes, he is why people know
laws tailor because he was bowling off the edge.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And guess what it ain't been.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You don't even think about him as a linebacker. And
I remember one you don't think about breaking Joe.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Ye enough anomaly at its best, he's the greatest defensive
player to ever play the game. It's never been another one.
It ain't gonna be another one. But when I do
my case study through frednalytics, this is what I do.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Find out that itlyics based on Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
What makes that line's defense so much better coming off
the edge?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
He make it better coming off the edge. But it's
proven through time and and and and me in my
studies that the tackles affect the game, uh a nuch
more than edge.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I can actually on offense.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I can come up with a plan for edge Russia
that I can never do with a detackle. You can't
stop predominant detict.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I can tell you that it's called a double team.
It's called it's called.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But that's what great detaclers already used to They already
used to be. They already been used to being double team.
I can chip that edge. I can double team that.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I could do so.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Much on that edge. You showed me a great edge rushing.
I show you a high paid player with a big
name and no rings on his finger. The top five
pass rushes edge rushers in this game today are ring list.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Unless they married. They ain't got no rings on their fingers.
But how much of that? Honestly, I had to do
a team versus player Huh.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean, I'm like Miles Garret, right, no race, but
he plays with the Browns.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Listen what you want me to cry river for Males
Garret because he played for the brown I'm.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Just saying, like, one man cannot make that offense.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I can't sell.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Let's argue this. Would you argue that Dexter Manley and
Charles man are the reason in Washington rest Cans where
at the height of that defense the best defense tove
ever and.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I get and for every every one of them, For
every one of them, I give you a Chris Hamburger.
For every one of them, I'm gonna give you a
de tackle that's putting in the dirty work. Look the
second change there was that not the just had the
best pass rushing duo and they got no ring for it.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'm telling you the coming.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Denominator with edge Russians, high paid edge Russian is they're
usually gonna have a good a good ConA on their
team because guess what we do benefit from the edge Russian.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
But when it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Comes to rings manufacturer, Because let's go back to the
dynasty with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Okay, who was their best? Who were they best? Defensive lineman?
Richard Seymour, Richie.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Richard Seymour played in the okie front. He was the
d N. He was the.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He was a he was a five technique playing on
the and he had a seven and he had an
outside linebacker outside of him.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
All I'm telling you is interior defensive linements effect games
on another level than edge Russian. So while everybody out
here crying that we need to get an edge rusher,
I'm more about the interior defensive because the interior does
two things.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
I believe. I agree with that, But I'm just trying
to say, if you can manufacture sacks without having to
blitz and play zone changes?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yes it does.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And the shortest route till the quarterback is over the center,
all right through the center.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
But can you can I agree with all this, But
what I'm saying is, and I think where we can
come to an agreement here is if you're looking at
this defensive line, the interior of the line is set,
how much better would it be if it had an edge?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Who is more important to the Pittsburgh defense? Cam Hayward,
Tjytt if you.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Look at the metrics, it's TJ.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, because when you look at the metrics, you're looking
at stats. I'm looking at like TJ.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
As good as he is against the past, he ain't
nothing compared to Hayward when it comes to the run.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, but I mean it's the totality of a football player.
Right when he is out of the lineup. The Steelers
give up more yard to get more points. They're a
much worse football team defense. Michael Jenkins, Frits, Michael Jenkins,
let me ask.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You, is all right the last edge Russia to win
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That's great, Michael Strahand Yeah, probably.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
No, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Mir Let's go back to first at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Von Miller.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
That's the last. That's that's the last one, all right.
Everything else is interior. Chris Jones has dominated this decade
Mississippi State.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Bull that's because of Patrick mahonmes right.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Dominated.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
No, no, no, no, let's be.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
They were giving out forty points a game.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You know they want listen a pair of lifts, a
tailor line. You telling one right now. Let's be honest
about this. Chris Jones has dominated the trenches the last
ten years of NFL football has been dominated by a
d tackle.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, that is true. He's the second best. He tackle
on the last year.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
No, are you serious, who's the first one?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Aaron Donald?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I get you there?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
All right?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
What are we talking about? You know what? I don't
tell you right much?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But yes, I think I think Chris is better gets
the run than Aaron Donald was.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I will say.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
That Aaron Donald man not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Oh no, no, listen, You'll never hear me hate on
Aaron Donald. By the way, I think Pitt University Mike
got more Hall of Famers than O State.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Now, if I'm correctly, o Holli State has the most
Hall of Famers in the NFL period.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Now you'll see t is a na You need.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
To check that.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You gotta be careful jumping out there. We talking about
the buck Eyes, bro, you got the most all of
my gotta be careful, Bro.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I don't know that they got Larry Fitzgeryal, they got
Darrel Reeves, they got Damn Marino.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Mean Joe Green Like.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I'm just saying now, all right, don't mean you agree
went to went to North.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Texas, he did.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, she went to you went to University Wa.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yes, knock it off to green and white bro relies.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I think people be shocked to see how many hall
of famers that pet University has. Pete more Hall of
famers than Peen State. But Peen State is known as
the football school.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's true, No, there's not. Penn State is not even
known as football school in their own conference WIVE State.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
As I understand, the big teams sean before we let
you go. This has been a great edge discussion. By
the way, what would you do it? Twenty nine in
the draft?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Just go? Best athletes are so many have an eye
on you for the commanders.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I think at this point where first of all, let's
talk about free agency, signing back some of our veterans
like Bobby and Trash and Mariota, some of the leadership
that lets you know that they feel comfortable with the
leadership or team as well as some of the and
I think Adam done at their job of filling in
with the replacing the d linemen and the corners and situations.
(34:07):
But I think the team is going for the best
athlete right now. Who's the best available player at that's available? Yep, yep,
most available player at twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I think from the free agenty moves in the offseason,
best play available.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, and you know and free agency, like the best
thing that ever happened is smooth was me and free agency. Baby,
that changed his life. They just want to let y'all
know that that changed his life. That they were doing
in bad jins and then I saved him the champ
dion and them had him out there bad that I
made him into something they ain't raised him right, I
(34:41):
raised him right, that's my son right there.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Well, I'm sorry to jump in really quickly, but uh,
I was sent the hall of famers. Schools with the
most hall of famers?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Are you ready? Yes?
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Number one is Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Notre Dame has the most hall of famers. Not Ohio
State A right, so he was already right there.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Nick to University of Southern California.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Us C, y'all USC.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Who else?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Three is Michigan, Michigan, got y'all with you living then
Ohio State is tied with Pitt.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Ohio State is tied with Pitt.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
We we got a couple coming in now, but don't
worry about it. Couple coming in.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I don't see you, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
The one thing I can say about Ohio State, they
will sell you a dirty old shoe and tell you that.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Brand new.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Jordan's Ohio State is the future.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Boy, Hey, not the rod with their bluefoot. Man, thank
you for coming home. Man, it's been great. Hey Sean,
it's always going to see your face, come and see us,
Come and see us.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Though I need to come see need a little more professional. Listen.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
That's when I said, we'll talk to you man. That's
you been here man, always see Seawan. We'll get him
in here bringing in that's my guy. Man, We're bigger.
That's what we do. That's what we always did. Like
he's an awkward dude.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Like the first time, like we signed him, I was
in the locker room working out.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
It was the off season. I was just chilling. I
used to stay here in the off season.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
And he walks in there right out he side his contract.
He introduces himself to me only the way that Shun
Spreeds came, just as arrogant as he could be. He
shakes my hand and say, it's a privilege for you
to play with me. I can't wait for you to
be the robbin to my batman.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
What did you say to that?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I was like, who are you?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Like, dude, what is wrong with y'all?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Like, dude, you know I just played with like three
yellow jackets right right, like who are you?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
He like, there's nothing. That's when I was like, this
dude right here, You're like I like him, Like he's
on his own, like the one thing you don't have
to worry about with shun springs. He all wnt have confidence.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah I didn't watch this do get burnt for one
hundred yards and he just like, I'm so damn good.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
And I'm like, You're not. You just you smoking a cigarette? Yeah,
you just lost the game. I'm still crazy. You just
lost the game singer handily by yourself. Hey, this hill Man.
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Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't have my cast make today, but I got
somebody even better.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Mister Adam Peters, thank you for wanted me today.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Ask me Michael Jenkins. Jenks a great guy, but when
I really want to pick your brain? All right, this
is this where we're going year two of this gig
right here? Does it feel different this year than last year?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Because I know, like last year was laying the foundation
and I'm sure it had to be hard with you.
You know, the first year you're doing the job. But
now you in the second year, it's kind of routine.
Does it feel sort of like the same?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
I think it hit the nail on the head. We've
done everything once for the most part.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Yeah, they're still always surprises.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
But last year I was almost like a chicken with
my head cut off trying to figure everything out.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
You know, where is this? Where's new home? Everything?
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Riding?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Right?
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Yeah, I'm living in an apartment, you know, And so
I feel a lot more settled now.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Personally.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
I think last year almost felt like a startup in
terms of, you know, it's just a few of us
doing free agency, a few of us, and now we
have a full staff. We're able to hire a full
staff over the off season, and we got a lot
of great people in place, which is awesome. So a
lot slower, a lot less hectic, and a.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Little bit more methodical in the way you're doing things.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
And like you said, you did have to put a
lot of people in place when you first got here,
and not only put them in place, understand where you
was in the hierarchy to get things done.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Does it like, what's the biggest thing that you learned
from last year that you bring into this year when
it comes to the GM job.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Yeah, I think, but really the biggest thing, and I
think I knew this, but I really really solidified it
this year.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Is bringing in great people, you know.
Speaker 7 (39:29):
Yeah, and that's players like yourself, right, and coaches and
then our staff. So bringing in great people, like minded people,
people that are we're not just looking for commanders as
players look of commanders in our front office and our
coaching staff. So surrounding yourself with the great people that
love the work, that love ball. I think that's been
the biggest thing is and that's really helped us like
(39:50):
throughout the whole organization.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
And not just bringing these people in.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
You have to actually like trust them to do what
you asked them to do and what you hired them
to do. And I know from playing sometimes it's harder.
That's easier said than done, you.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Know, Yeah, you really try to hire people that you
think can carry what you're trying to do when you're
not there. Yeah, And so I think we've done a
great job of that. We have an incredible staff, incredible
coaching staff, and the players all are you know, they're
all real commanders. The guys we brought in in the
off season, the guys we brought in last year, the
guys we drafted.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
So we feel really good about that.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And when you say commanders, because I've heard this time
and time again in the culture and everything, when you
shopping for a player, you don't just look at the
free agent list and say, Okay, who's the best free agent?
You say, no, I'm looking for guys that fit the
ingredients of a commander.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
What what are those ingredients?
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah, that's a big secret.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
You can't give me that sixteen.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
You give me the main ingredients for not the secret ones.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Could you take me just a day, because the one
thing I had always said is if I want to
do something in football, at the football, it will be
a gm a vera whole job with a lot of pressure.
Could you take me down through an average day when
free agency begins, which you still having the draft looming
behind you.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
You really have to compartmentalize because free agency, especially last
year and then this year as well. We had twenty
eight free agents this year, so we had to really
fill in a lot of Yeah, so you almost put
the draft on pause for that week and really dig
into free agency and dig into the phone calls, calling
the agents, you know, talking to the coach, to our
coaches and our staff and really building that and making
(41:34):
sure that all right, here's the guys we're really targeting,
and again trying to target those commanders.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
That we talked about.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
But if that guy, we don't get that guy, or
that price is too high, who's our next guy? And
so really that week you're just hitting pause on the
draft and then as soon as you fill that in
when we signed tons of guys, we feel really good now,
but we're going into free agency. We had the second
least players on our roster in the whole NFL. Yeah,
and so after we did that, now we can turn
(42:00):
back to the draft and.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Now we're full speed into the draft.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Did you look at this free agency?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Say, you know, I read a will and deal with
some teams because with Laramie Tooms was like, I got
to give you some props.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I feel like you stole.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Him and getting a guy like him and getting Deebo Samuels.
Did you sit out you know, I got my eye
on these guys or did you understand the situation those
teams was going through.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
I think yeah, both are different.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
I think with with Deebo being available, I'll start with Debo, yeah,
And with him being available and knowing Deebo since really
before we drafted in in San Francisco, we actually coached
him at the Senior Bowl too, so we got to
wrote him really early. Ye, and then seeing who he is,
how he plays, how he works, what kind of teammate
he is, and then obviously seeing firsthand in person how
he can change a game.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Like he is.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
True, he's a whiper, yeah he is.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
He is somebody who lifts everybody else competitively on the field.
So having that opportunity, that was really cool to get
him and get Jaden in our offense another weapon that
can take it to the house at any time. And
then the other thing we really wanted to do is
is get a left tackle, a great left tackle, and
those are hard.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
They don't follow, They only don't come available, like.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
The usually don't.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
You're right, and so we were like, especially picking twenty
ninth in the draft, yeah, okay, can we find a
real left tackle, like a starting left tackle? Brandon calm
It did an incredible job he did last year and
he can play anywhere on the line, which is great.
So let's find, like, you know, an elite left tackle
that you know, Jaden can feel really great and comfortable
with covering his blind side. And so when that opportunity
(43:30):
came about, you know, we jumped on it and we
thought it was really important to do that. And you
know it's you know, after that, it's just yeah, find
the compensation.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I think it changes the hierarchy of the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Like you said, with Coleman being able to move from
here to here, it just takes it up to another level.
And not not just these guys that you brought through
trades and free agents, what about our own guys that
you brought back with Bobby Waglan and Zach Ertz. How
important was it to bring these locker room star wars
back and to keep things moving forward?
Speaker 7 (43:59):
Yeah, that was our priority, is to bring our guys back,
the guys that we saw as commanders, and we targeted
a lot of our own free agents because those are
the guys that really were the core of how what
we did last year. Guys like Bobby, guys like Zach,
So those are the first order of business really, and
bringing those guys back and their leadership and not only
their leadership, but they're play on the field, giving somebody
(44:21):
that like for in Zach's case, a weapon for Jayden
that he knows is going to always be open safety recovery.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Is the quarterbacks favorite free and in his league.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
And then Bobby is the leader of the team and
the quarterback of the defense. So getting those guys back
that was priority one A and one B really, along
with other guys like Marcus and then those guys. But
it was really really cool to get those guys back
and they wanted to be back, which.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Was really neat.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, I've been say not just dn't want to be here.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
It's it's the buzz around the league that a lot
of players look at us as a destination and I
was here doing the other times where we wasn't a destination.
So as an X player, it feels good that people
is seeking a out right now.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
So I begged it up most definitely. And I got
to ask you the way you go about free agency?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Do you go about gris as you get things done
in free agency because you want to have a more
free flowing draft. You don't want to corner yourself in
the draft. You want to go in and say, you
know what, if I want to go best play a vaide,
I don't care who it is.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
Yeah, I think you always want to go into a
draft with that mindset, and you never really want to
go into a draft saying I need to draft this
position or this player, because that's you know, oftentimes that's
when you make a mistake. When you reach for a guy,
You talk yourself into a guy being better than he
is just because you need it.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
So bad.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
So we feel really good that we don't have to
reach for a certain position or player. We can go
in and you know, pick the best guy that fits
our team at any position.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Really yep, and I think I think this is very sport.
I think that's very awesome. Newsome on you right there.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I like that right there. Now we're gonna play a
game and a set up a game for you. It's tightening,
right yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
So we're gonna do it in college guys.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, junior college, baby, understand. We know how hard it
is to get through stuff. I appreciate people that with
the junior college it's not easy. Favoritebody, all right, we
got a tight ends least I want you to draft
the top five tight ends of all time, your top five.
So it's not really a wrong answer here.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
You can go off of the sheet if you don't
have you.
Speaker 7 (46:17):
Yeah, you got some guys, but well you said one
of the guys that definitely belongs in consideration. You just
said his name Ozzie Newsom Newson, and he's you know,
Hall of famer as a player and as a executive.
In my mind, definitely, But you know, there's so many
tight ends, and you know, those are the guys I
looked up to, obviously, So you know there's guys that
were I didn't see Mike Dick to play.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Right, all right, need one but he but he.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I'm sure belongs in guys like John Mackie. You know
those guys.
Speaker 7 (46:47):
I can't speak to the guys growing up that I
really liked or I think you if you're going top five,
you can't leave off Tony g Right guns has.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Played against him. One of the hardest covers is a
tight end.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, so we both agree with him and Assie newsoon
so we two for two, right now.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Okay, I think you gotta throw a Gronk in there.
Speaker 7 (47:06):
It's a little bit of recency bias, but you know
my lifetime Gronk's pretty special.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Grunk is special. Where are you a uh mmm? Who
am I thinking about? Jeremy Shocky? Guy?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Shocky is good because I thought Jeremy Shocky shock the
world for a second, right there? Keith Byers, Keith Well,
Keith Jackson, King Jackson, mean yeah, Keith Jackson, and you.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Got let's go, uh the original Kellen Winslow.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yes, you all right? For the Sandago charges. Yeah, yeah,
all right, So there's four.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
I got, well, and we've more than five.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I will watch it out. Stop For who else you got?
Speaker 5 (47:47):
I got a sleeper for you. You gotta come up.
Russ Francis. Russ Francis for the Patriots ers, Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
What about the forty nine ers? Now we can't leave
our brid Jones now.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
But Jones' the reason why we wore eighty four heroes.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Right, that's what I'm talking about. And you got who
you got?
Speaker 5 (48:07):
You got kittled Now he's pretty.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Good cowboys also with what's his name? Whedon?
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a good one long.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Line of tight ends.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Great position.
Speaker 7 (48:19):
It's a hard position. Man, you got a block, you
got to catch, you gotta know everything.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
So who you feel if you had to pick one,
was the most equal in both it's a pass catcher
and there's a blocker, the most complete tight end.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Who would you go? Jayon ovcheck?
Speaker 7 (48:35):
I think you know what was really cool about Tony
Exhaust is he was not a blocker when he started. Yeah,
but by the end of his career he became a
good blocker. Was he a dominant block No, but he
was good even an elite receiver.
Speaker 5 (48:47):
So I think and he.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Had one of the most elite offensive lines I've ever
seen with Will Shields and the rist of those guys
they had, so I think they told him put the
pressure on him to block.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, most definitely this.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
This was very Thank you for taking time, if for getting.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
Loud, Thanks for being here, Pete.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Thanks thanks.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Three, six, seven, nine seven.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
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