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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up on a get loud podcast. Oh my god,
seventy days we waited, Yeah, but we got.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
One two holidays, two major holidays coming up.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Also, we got our game against the Eagles, the Divisional Tournament.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Of Student eight and we got a couple of substitutions.
We got a six man come in. You know this,
what is about.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Team that forgets to get Last month?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man, we've been a long tas since we had a victory.
Monday been a minute, what October fourteenth, maybe.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's been seventy something days, It's like seventy days.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Major holidays, Halloween, Thanksgiving. We get the win right before Christmas.
I'm glad we didn't wait till Christmas. That's what I'm saying.
Like the wind had to happen. Enjoyed it because it
actually was a snipplet snipplet into the future. But stop laughing.

(01:08):
What you laughing? Because you went from snippet to snippe
lit snipplet Snipper of the future because yesterday what I
saw was Okay, Mikey Siris still part of the future.
Make plays Jayleen Lane, make plays future cunningly. Two Fummer recoveries.
I do on't know if he go up in Madden
as a tackle for getting two Fummer recovers the future

(01:32):
like Bill Kroskey Mary the future. Like what I saw
yesterday was a glimpse into the future. Looks kind of bright.
I need some shades school with that one. Yeah, remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Also, I'm looking at the future.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
So this is published on Tuesday, So tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, the Commander Podcast is gonna have a live taping
at City Tap at seven o'clock this, Yes, city Tapping.
It wouldn't allow one Louden be mich London, Fletcher and.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Santa Claus. Yes, so we got a lot of fat men.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh yeah, if you're if you're a big boy, Yeah,
it's your time.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Listen, Johny Saint Nicol Beet between London and Santa Claus
peck on gluten, can we say gluten? You can.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
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Speaker 3 (02:26):
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Speaker 2 (02:27):
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Speaker 1 (02:34):
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dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
So we want to talk about this game.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
But first, man, it's been such a roller coaster for
this team to end this eight game losing skin. So
here is DQ to the locker room right after the game.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Hell yeah, man, in division tournament, all right, keep on advancing.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
All right, that's.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Where we're at. Man, We're cool. You can win, right,
It's been a challenge. You've been in a long time,
all right, for the last couple of months. There's nobody
I'd rather do that with than the guy standing here. Man, tough,
resilient harp. All right, that's what's all about. Jay Lane.
All right, they play bro first time? It's uh yeah too,

(03:19):
touch on your first times. It's Brian Man, stand up.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I know I talk so much.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Shout out a guy on the return team layout boys
many Daylane.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
What's cool? Man?

Speaker 4 (03:36):
We said yesterday? Man, this game is dedicated to one another.
All right, brotherhood game. It was man the whole way,
all right, everybody hand hand that win. Man, So enjoy it. Man,
take a couple of extra minutes today.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
The feeling of a winning locker room.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Nothing like it.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Right, I love it, I love it. I love it.
He's right, we win. That locker room just floats like
a cloud.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, what take us inside the locker room?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Because we always talk about your former experiences that you
had during your career, but especially coming off a rough patch, a.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Rough patch of losses. I remember my rookie year oh
and five, we started, we got that first win, and
it was like a sense of camaraderie, a sense of
it's been us against the world for weeks and it
just a just a weight off of your shoulders. Yeah,
it makes the next work week easier, It makes it better.

(04:35):
It's just one of those things where everybody has had
these small wins in life. I don't matter if it's
going to the coffee shop and all of a sudden
the bariche to say, no, you can have that for free.
I'm sorry for mission. Your order of victory, that's yours, Frederick. Yeah,
a victory like these small victories in life, they just

(04:56):
they make things clear and better. It said, we.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Can when you're going through a streak like that.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I would imagine at some point you put so much
pressure on yourself, right.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, because you're looking for answers, Like everybody looking for
answers in it. The question is am I the answer?
Can I change it? What can I do to help
us win? Do I need to get one, two, three picks?
Do I need to attack a better? Do I need
to call out assignments better? What communicate? What do I
need to do to get us out of this slump?
And I think that's the biggest question. Each player access

(05:30):
themselves and applies more pressure to.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Them, and then you can finally relax a little bit though,
when you finally get that dub.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Like I'm like that personally in my job.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I feel like a lot of people can relate where
if you're going through a rough patch, you're.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Like, I gotta get this, I gotta get this right, get.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And then once you finally nail it or accomplish that
particular goal, you're like, I can just read easier, and
things just come.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
To you easy. Things come to you easy. And now
the question becomes can I do it again and again
and again? Because now the standard is set, so it's
winning is good for any locker room. I don't care
what record is I do not care. And this has
been a year of reset in the NFL. If I

(06:12):
could say the narrative for the year is reset, I
would say the youth is coming. We might have a
playoffs with no Patrick Mahons, no Lamar Jackson, no Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Burrow's definitely out and Mahomes is definitely I mean, the
Chiefs are done, Bigals are done.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
So just maybe Lamar So the old Guard, Josh Allen,
he sees he sees a path.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
If you're the Bills, don't you know this, you gotta
do it.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
You gotta do it right because the Patriots on to
come up now.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yes, you know so this is if you're the Bills,
this is your time.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
This is your time. The old Guard has bowed bowed out. Yes,
they bowed out for the playoffs for the first time
in over a decade. It's gonna be probaly six new
quarterbacks in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
See, it's kind of exciting, though, I have to say.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's exciting for the fan bases. Yes, Like for the
fan bases is exciting because these ain't the regular villains.
These ain't the fan bases that been here for eighth
straight year. This is what we do. All we do
is go to the playoffs. It won't be no barbecue
being barbecued in Kansas City in January. A thank LRD.

(07:27):
It's about time.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I'm telling I'm ready for some fresh blood just as
a fan. So I feel like like it'll be interesting.
What about Trevor Lawrence? What about c J.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Stroud?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
What about Drake may like all and that's just you know,
that's just like they're just the AFC.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Now, that's what I'm saying. Detroit loses a game, Detroit
has been the regular playoff team. Also, all right, you got,
you got? The Rams are still gonna be in that thing.
The Seahawks, the Seahawks gonna be in that thing though.
So it's gonna be a lot of new blood and
I can't wait. And that's why I say this year
is about the future of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know what I liked about DQ speech? Here is it.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
He said, division playoffs and sometimes how you frame something
can affect your attitude.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
And I love that framing, which is, let's not worry
about it.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
The implied is, let's not worry about that, Let's focus
on this division playoff and let's finish the year the
way we want to finish it.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Let's kick the people in our divisions. But that's what
he's saying. Yes, let's show them that we ain't gonna
play no games with you. We don't like. This is
what we're gonna do. Okay. I don't know if you
watch Welcome to Dairy but penny Wise.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
But let me say this. I know that you love
that show. I love that show. And penny Wise is
the universal villain. All right, so we turn into penny Wise.
We turn into the universal villain kind of like that.
We play with hate on our mind, hate on you,

(08:59):
hey on you, hate on you. We already hated on
the Giants. We finally got this giant chip off our should.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Oh the way I should say this, good job by any here.
I did not realize this. Four consecutive wins with the
gm man first time since nineteen ninety eighty two thousand.
A couple years ago, were on this point talking about
how the Giants kind of had our number.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, that curse is gone. Yeah, all right, we lifted
that curse. We had to fight evil with evil, all right,
And now we're finn continue this hating spree as we
hate on the Cowboys and we hate on the Philadelphia Eagles.
We're just out to ruin your day. And I think
that takes a lot of pressure off your shoulder as
a player, because it's almost like this is a win

(09:38):
win for us. All right, we listen, we ain't got
nothing to lose. We are dangerous. The team with nothing
to lose become a very dangerous team. We are dangerous
to the Philadelphia Eagles. We are dangerous to the Dallas Cowboys.
And that's what I want. If I'm coach, I'm just
telling from Coach Quinn, let's fight with so much hate

(10:00):
than that. We would make Silkie justin proud. That's all
I want to do. That's all I want to do.
That's all I want to do.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Bill Knack in the lineup yesterday. Yeah, so, I mean
he's been in the lineup, but this is the first
time that he's kind of yeah, play right. Chris Rodriguez
did not play. He tried to work out that handstring
before the game, just could not go.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
So Bill got more run than he's had in recent
weeks and looked really good.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
No, look really burst slicing through that. Yeah, he has
this run. Tell me, Am I.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Right, okay, he has I like him. By the way,
most people would say, tell me I'm wrong. You'd be like,
tell me, I'm right, tell me, tell me, I'm telling
me right.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
He has that running gallop mmmm when he hits the
hole like Roger cried.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I actually liked that comp a lot. And by the way,
Roger clak, Roger Craig almost.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Underrated under Yes, he started, I'm gonna be a universal back.
He started, I'm gonna catch that ball. But that high,
that high knee, hi knee running style. I was like,
is this Roger Craig's steps? Like I was asking myself, like,
who does he remind me of? And it just was
bothering me. And I said, he has some Roger Craig

(11:12):
and some Ricky running Waters.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, that's a nun you.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
What's interesting is I was actually doing some research on
underrated running backs.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, this is.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
A few weeks ago, because I love players that when
you look back, some guys get skipped over and you
forget about their careers. Yes, and two of the most
underrated running backs in the same list, Roger Craig, Ricky Waters.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
And it's funny you use those two guys.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Both San Francisco running backs. It just that running style
was like Bill has that gallop. He has the same
gallop that those guys do, and when he hits the hole,
it's so explosive.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's hut he made on that touchdown? D I mean
start right now, I'm out, I'm out, chunk the deuces.
Do you get the tag on that sports car? That's
the question.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Smooth, fluid running style. He reminds me of those two guys.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Let's keep talking about the young guys here. Jalen Lane, Yeah, DQ,
you mentioned it. First time a player has returned two
punts in a season since b Mitched did it for
this franchise in nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Jalen Lane has now done that twice this year. What
a moment for him. And I was worried about that flag,
but no, it was legit.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Hell of a run, hell of a run, hell of
a kickoff. What if I told you we have a
Pro Bowl rookie on this team.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think it's absolutely true.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's absolutely Listen. If he finished the year scrown averaging
fifteen yards.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
And then his first return go for like twenty yards its.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
First return, Yeah, yeah, so what I'm saying is we
might have a Pro Bowl rookie on this team. Like
that tells you a lot. Like that. Why I say,
when you look at the youth movement on this team,
I think it's good. I think it's good. I think
it's a good group of guys. And I'm gonna say
this about Hamilton. Hamilton played some ball yesterday. He played
some ball yesterday.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
That's a guy that I feel like we need to
talk about more. Guy who's been around the league.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Kind of bounced around, but he may play after play
after play.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
He was sticky and he like I'm talking about if
you go to the bathroom, I'm going with you. That's
what he told these guys. He did not He did
not guess he played physical. They want to unwrestling. He
unwrestled with him. He did not care. He actually he
had the stickiest coverage of any cornerback this year.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
In that game for this team. Yeah, but this team,
I agree, like.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Nobody else has played like that. I mean, your hill pocket,
no matter where you go, I know y'all gonna throw
at me. I'm the new guy, all right, I'm the
guy after practice squad. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
And I have to admit I had to refresh my
memory because I saw him make a couple of plays.
I'm like, wait a second, I need to go back
and look at this cat like he's playing some serious.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Ball, right, No, no, no, no, playing some ball. It looked comfortable.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
That's the thing, right, this is like is this a yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Look comfortable doing it like this? Charles Woodson, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (14:04):
Like?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Just looked comfortable doing it. Round of applause, my friend.
Great way to step up, Great way to play football,
Great way to say I got some football in me.
So this is a guy that's fighting for a roster
spot on this roster next year, and he knows how
to get it done.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
It just goes to show we've been talking about why
a team is not going to quit ever, it's because
of guys like that.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, you either want to make this roster or put
somebody else.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes, the eye in the sky don't lie. That's what
we told. The camera in this sky don't lie. Is
watching everything. And if they watched the same game that
I watched yesterday, he looked like a starter in his league.
He didn't. I'm sorry, Hamilton did look like a start
in this league yesterday. He started the game and he

(14:52):
closed the game by making a play. Sure I'm saying,
I'm just saying he making plays.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Mikey sayrus another young guy. Second is that he's had
an up and down second season. Yeah, but man, he
can't play yesterday.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
No, he came to play yesterday, and I think we
we gotta say this. Maybe he's better outside than.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
That was my next question, is he because of course
he comes out, It's like, this is your slot corner,
this is your slight corner.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Is he a better outside?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I think he's a better outside corner. I think he
feels more comfortable at the outside corner. I think he
sees the whole field. I think when you're in the slot,
you so focused on that. Man, I got run game
responsibility before pass, okay, And when I'm outside, I'm I
got passed before run, right, I'm the reinforcement on the run.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Which is in line with his natural skill set.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah. But I think he's legitly an outside corner that
just and his play shows it, like he always makes
interceptions outside, that's where he makes the plays at. So
I'm I'm convinced now that him Treya should be the
outside corners coming into next year. Yeah, yeah, yes, it

(16:04):
just shows in his play. He constantly jumps routes. The
one thing about it is and he looks good running
with the ball in his hand. After he catch his interception,
he shows you that I used to play wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I started to say, that's when you see that part
of his athleticism coming out, because some guys are great corners,
but then they might catch the football and then all
of a sudden the offensive player and you can tell
they who looks comfortable. Yes, and Mikey, I'm like, I
thought he might run that thing back back.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Guess what I'm saying. Quickness in and out of cuts
like he has it, he understands it. There's gonna be
a question going into the off season, is all right,
do we need to keep this guy on the outside
and find us a nickel corner? Like that's gonna be
the conversation. That's gonna be the questions.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Finally, I have to say, maybe my favorite series of
the whole game was right before halftime when it was
Von Miller, Von Miller, Bobby Wager. Yeah, it was just
old and the Giants offensive lineman. I forget that dude's name.
Where Vaughan first went inside on him, yeah, then came
out Dan came outside.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
And then on the next play, Bobby Wagner squares up
and I think it was Tyron Tracy and just knocked
him flat. You hear the crowd of the medal Lianes go, yeah,
like even the veterans came to point.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Listen, the old folks home could still do it too.
Them two yellers, two yellers, two yellers, Yeah, two yellow jackets,
all right, still playing. And I think when you got
vits like that, showing up to play no matter what's
going on in the season. You as a young guy,
you you understand I need to play at this.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
If this with these ventures, they haven't checked out, So
why would I check out? So this leading by example
right there, This is what Bobby Wagner is. That's all
he's ever done is lead by example. Let how's this dude?
Almost been in the league fourteen, thirteen, fifteen years, he's
he's hell in top five tackles still, Like, where's the dcline?

(18:06):
I don't where? All right? Maybe in coverage, all right,
we all get older, but run tackling. I don't see
any DC line.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I loved yesterday or showing that graphic, and they were
talking about most tackles in National Football League history, and
they start off with Ray Ray, and I knew, I
knew London was next.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
But I wonder how many people at home were surprised
to see London pop up at number two.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
They shouldn't have been surprised. No, only think about it
is Ray Lewis was the ultimate salesman.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
He was his own hype man.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, he was the ultimate salesman. Why London was just quietly, merrily,
merrily merrily up and down the screen. He was just
doing his job.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
But it's true, yes, and he wasn't entertaining, right, which
is I'm gonna go do my job.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'm gonna clean up this mess. I'm going back to
the huddle, and.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm going back to the huddle. He didn't have the intro, right,
he didn't have the post game speeches, right, he didn't.
He just went did his job and that goes the show.
I always tell people, if you're in the entertainment business,
you have to entertain. It's a lot of only reason

(19:22):
people probably remember me, truly, it is because I entertained
a thousand percent.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I mean, you're a damn good quarterback.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
But yes, I sold it. I sold it, and I
made you believe I was good even if I wasn't.
That's the key to it. And I think that's the difference.
And I personally cannot wait for Bobby Wagner to surpass
London Fletcher. I cannot wait. I am pulling forward. I needed,

(19:50):
I needed to happen. Two things gonna happen when it happened. Okay,
I get to shame London because Bobby passed him. But
also that puts london name up there, all right. It
makes them look at his name twice and say why
and he in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
That's actually a great point.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I can't wait for Bobby to do it because
now it makes them say, why ain't he in the
Hall of Fame? Why ain't London in the Hall of
damn shame hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
And also, look when you strip away if you are
and I know, you have to look at different factors
when you're considering someone for the hall.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
If you're second all time in the history, you're in.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
First of all, you're in forget it numbers, he's in
right longevity. What about the fact he never missed a game,
That's what I'm saying. So they go to Iron Man
Award right there. That should have got you in right,
you say, did he get a Super Bowl? Yes? You did, Yes,
but all the creditions are there, All the conditions are there.

(20:53):
So that's why I'm waiting for Bobby to pass him
because it illuminates London. It illuminates London because if.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
This guy's automatic, why isn't this guy guy automatic?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Well, Bobby's automatic. He's going to Yes, all right, Ray
was automatic. You gotta put the other win in there too,
should be automatic.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Good point.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
So it's gonna really help him and help my ego.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's a win win, win win.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Everybody wins in this scenario right here, but London is
weighed overdue and one of them guys, like I said,
I guess, didn't sell himself enough.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's like I remember when, because Ray was in his prime,
best at his position, and also promoted himself more than anyone.
It reminds me of kind of Dion back in the day. Yeah,
because Dion was the best and what he did, and
then all of a sudden, this cat forty yards from
the in zone is dancing his way to the end

(21:50):
zone because he knew nobody could catch nobody.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Well guess what, but you still had the Rod Woodson's
of the world that was at corner the neil Us Williams. See,
that's where I push mainly. That's why I put logan
that I mean London. That yeah, London was more Nearlyus
Williams than the like. People forget how good this is great.
But when we talk corners, his name has never come up.

(22:13):
Same things Rob Woodson, that the name never come up
when we Rob Woods's name does come up when we
talk best call about all time.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
This is a great call off.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
But if Nelius doesn't come up because the niggas just
played the game like it was supposed to be played
and went home. And sometimes that helps you sometime that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Know it's a great point. Well, we're talking about corners,
so we got to.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Bring in somebody that used to look like a con.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
You know him, you love him, That's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's talking about our guys.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Sean Spreads all right, yeah, single clap you know, man.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Jakes, I miss you.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Jings man, I know. And the Jenson's Springs Spring show
was popular.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Man, No, no, no, no, no, no, that ain't the wait.
Things good. We had a great time. Good to see
you here.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
So a great time, man, Yeah, I sure got too.
You know, I'm always refred relatious.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Good to see man. So how how good was it
for this team? How nice was to finally.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Just get off the snide here, you know, not necessarily
a fresh start, but to put that part of this
season behind.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
Them, a right, man, we needed to win so bad, man,
it was. It was one of those things where you know,
my neighbors was getting upset that the whole community was angry.
Everybody can't even go to the grocery store in piece
of people actually what's going on? So it was good
to see the guys go out there and perform and
and just go show you there's some people out there

(23:54):
still playing.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
It mean something to him.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Sean, and I can say this, man, Not only was
this a good win, I feel like it was a
good win with the youth movement. You got Dollar Bill
running the ball, you got Mikey Sanrich still out there
making plays, you got Cunnly out there blocking. So it
was to me the baby Commanders that went out there
and took their game yesterday. How you feel about their
youth movement. How do you feel about the young guys
going out there making play Jayleen Lane returning the punt

(24:18):
the second punt of the year. Yeah, so I felt
like the baby Commanders went out there and made plays.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Well, you know a lot of times people ask you
just the time of the year, you know, with the
record and you don't have no playoffs to look forward to.
Like that goes to show you that some young players
still out there feel like they got to earn it
and earn they wing in the league and got a
lot to prove. And those guys went out there and
looked like they got a lot to prove. Mikey was
out there ball. I love that punt return by Jay Lane.
I think that kind of like really sparked us and

(24:46):
open it up and just you know, smooth. As a veteran,
sometimes you're gonna go out there because you know your
professional and everything like that, and you know that you
want to get your job done. But sometimes them young
them young cats bring a different energy. Man, they be
out there, they'd be out there ready to go with
your fresh hamstrings with that type of in that type
of weather. So uh, it was good to see the

(25:07):
guys come out there and play well and uh and
we looked like we our draft picks are we're here
to stay.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Sean.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
We heard throughout the week like different players and particularly
Sam Cosby come out and say, look, d Q has
not lost the locker room right, like, we are all
in on DQ. And you see that sometimes the teams
are losing, guys are unhappy, they come out to the media.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
We have not seen that with this team.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
What makes d Q so good at keeping guys together
when they're going through a spot like this or just
in general.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
That's that's kind of his reputation.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
You know, well, I think you know in the back
in the day, we used to say a players coach,
a coach that relate to the players. Players looked up,
he's in a fox hole with him. D Q is
most definitely one of those guys that you feel like,
you know, he's in it with you, he ain't gonna quit,
and you embody that, you embody that that that feeling

(25:55):
of like this is the guy that you know he
ain't gonna quit on us, wing gonna quit on him.
And there's no quickning in locker room because if you
look at this team, this year, and why we our
record is not where it is. It's not that we
have bad players. So if we were injured, we lost
Eckler earlier, you know, Jade's been out, you know, just
guys has been banged up. So it's not like the

(26:18):
team is bad. I've been on some teams that are
bad and it's like our players are healthy and we
just aren't good. Right, This wasn't the case for this team.
They got some rock stars, they got some guys who
make some who can make some plays, and unfortunately just
the you know, it's just one of those fluke years.
More to tell you, like, we've been on a team
where this fluky stuff happened, just like last year.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
The year before. You know, a lot of things went
our way.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, and the ball bounced our way way. Yeah, yep,
most definitely. And you talked about d Q showing leadership
skills when it's ugly, and this is this is what
I like it. And the one first thing coach said
when he got here, I want people that good at
doing hard ship together. Well, this is the epitome of

(27:03):
hard shit, right, And I feel like we're gonna get
a lot more out of this year than people think
not only do you get the draft pick, but you
get to see what your depth actually is and who
could actually be a starter. So some guys, the Johnny
Newton's of the world and the other guys of the
world that usually wouldn't play a ton is going to

(27:25):
play a ton. How do you think that a beneficial
and make us better going into next year.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
We talked about it all the argument that has been about,
you know, a lot of the argument that's been around
Jaden as a quarterback. He needs it, whether he should
play or whether he shouldn't play, because he needs reps.
All young players who aren't starters in the league need
the reps.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
They need it.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
It's important, like you talk about like this, young guys
just getting in there and making some place. It's ugly
as cold. We don't have nothing to look for. But
this is where you're sharpen you know, you're sharping your skills.
This is where you go out there and you make
a name for yourself. Hey, you got Philly, you got
the twice, you got Dallas twice, they both in playoff contention.

(28:07):
You go out there and spoil it, you got there
and make hate.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Show me your ate, show me your young guy.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
You out there and you willing to strip pickings and
CD lamb and then you go out there and do
it against AJ Brown for example, in the secondary, you know,
make a name for yourself, and it's an opportunity for that.
And I believe that we have some young guys in
this organization that's willing to go out there and get
it done and play. Like you said, like like, man,
you got some guys that you know, like gonna bring.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Some death next year. You know.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
Obviously having an early pick is going to be very
beneficial for a good team. We've seen it before, a
team all of a sudden, you know, like they were
like four.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, no, no, no, no team. We seen this with Philadelphia
the year that they lost the last five games and
end up they Constellation Prize was Jayalen Carterle. This is
who this is who you get and.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Then you get to the super Bow with the Jayalen
car This is what happens. Yeah, that's what happened. This
is exactly what happens. And I think that you know,
right now, it doesn't feel good, you know, and some
people might even argue, why don't you just take it
for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
And just get the No, that ain't what football players do.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
That's not what we do. That's not what it's about.
It's all about going on to this ain't the NBA.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Man.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
I think the NBA might do it, but the NFL.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, the NFL, I think we selfely don't do it
selfishly because we know whoever this high draft pick coming in,
go take one our job. So we want to make
sure that the draft as low as we can get it.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
And another thing that happens in the NFL too, that
I think people take for granted is regardless if you sorry,
you're not having a great season, nobody feel sorry for your.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
NFL nobody, nobody feels sorry for you.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
There's some guys out there to try to knock rock
your world, knock your head off, or run you over
or dunk on you and the catching the end so on.
So it's one of those things.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Man.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
Like the NFL, they take no prisoners man, you know,
so you got to go out there and play each week.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Sean, what's your take on the Eagles right now?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Because yeah, okay, they beat the Raiders, right, so, okay, fine,
the Raiders are terrible, but the Eagles, as we've seen,
have all the time in the world, but don't necessarily
love playing with one another.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
They just they don't seem like they enjoy football.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
So it's easy to say after it win over the
readers like, oh, we're back together again, But once they
face a test, can they be had Saturday?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I compare them to the Beatles. I compared them to
John Lennon not liking nobody in the band. I feel
like that it's no unity with them. I feel like
they are a rock band. They don't actually like each other,
which we see all the time.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Well, you know what the truth is, and you know
the elephant in the room, and nobody's gonna call out
a certain there's certain personalities and certain names that on them.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
If they're on your team, that can throw off what
we call the.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
Chemistry of the team, like you're saying in the rock
band right, And for me, the Eagles look like, if
we run our offense through this person, we win. If
we run our offense through this person, he might have success,
but we might not win. So I think Eagles have
to decide the best way to running offense. I mean,

(31:19):
obviously with say Kwan Barklay is the guy, you know,
but you know, there's receivers, there's things, and I don't
want to cause no controversies, but to me, it looks like,
you know, Eagles are trying to appease too many people
versus saying, you know, this is how we're going to
do it, and this is how we're gonna win.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
You know, Fred is a little more vocal to me.
Fred might come out and say, hey, this guy.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
This guy's a cancer in the locker room, and he
might try to throw everything off.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Do you like the DQ has sort of reframed this
as the division tournament. I feel like that's a perfect
way to look at it and kind of help these guys refocus, Like,
all right, forget about the last couple of months, when
we can win this division tournament, finish strong.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
I love that man, anything that gets you motivated. I
love the way he framed that. That's pretty cool. It's
almost like what the NBA does, like the mid season
Christmas tournament. But that that's pretty slick, you know, And anyway,
you know, coach is always trying away to motivate his
team and get it and get him on board, to
get those guys moving in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Like me.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
I told him. I was like, I just want to
be a hater. I don't want to see Dallas or
Eagles go to the playoffs. So I'd have been out
there telling Fred, we're gonna spoil it for somebody. If
we got to be home or we got to be
in Vegas early, they're gonna be with us. So you know,
for me, you know, whatever it takes to get you
up and gets you going out like that. You know,
when you looked at the schedule at the beginning of
the season, we all looked, and I think we talked

(32:40):
about it in training camp like the last five six
weeks was going to be a gauntlet. You know, that's
exactly what you wanted to see, all the NFC East
teams playing each other.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
And uh, just whoever goes to.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
That gauntlet at least three and one would probably win
the division.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
So I'm having him.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Here on the show. You'll see him again before the
season is over.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Us.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I got Sean's springs, Sewan, good to see your brother,
all right, them Bluefoot, great to have Sean. Also, you're
not gonna have voice smells this week. Anna is not
feeling well, so we hate getting that.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
She got the elk flu. What's the lp? What's the elk?
It's a flu going around in Colorado? Did you make
this up? I did, That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
You know, you did mention, which, of course I appreciate
a good old school reference.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
BC headache powder. Listen, listen, how many mornings have b
C powder saved you?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I haven't had BC heady powder in a while. But
essentially it's mashed up aspirin.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's basically the peel in dust for.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Right, and so it goes straight to you. It doesn't
have to dissolve, it's already is already.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
It was called the hangover savor. Yes, of the nineteen nineties,
of the two thousands, it was, hey, man, what you
do last night?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Man, we went hard. Man, I'm taking a BC power
right now, Like that was the thing.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I'm gonna order someone Amazon and not kidding because we
had the weekend's heart.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I'm like, I could use some BC headache powder.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
The only thing about it instant cotton mouth.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh really?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know when you put the power in your moauth,
you gotta have water, Like, don't you ever take a
BC powder with that water? I guess that's the convenience
of appeal. You can just pop the pill. Oh yeah, oh,
you got right. But if you try to dry throat,
gonna die. You need water to survive.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
That's a good old school repence. You're another one. I
heard of RC color You remember RC coler, right.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
My grandma used to love. She used to send me
to the store for the raw Crown colon.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
It's coming back.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I heard it's making a com because.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Now old school brands are kind of coming back. Yeah, so,
mister PIB, you're gonna see start coming.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Because it's almost a knockoff root beer. It's kind of
like doctor pep Pepper matched with root beer. Yeah yeah,
But the r C col was the third child in
the Cola Wars Coca Cola Pepsi RC RC so r
C Cola was really like the the Outcads. Yeah, like

(35:14):
the outcare Because the big thing is, does coke taste
better than PEPSI? Where do you stay at?

Speaker 3 (35:21):
You know where I stand? Coke for life? Man, you
love Pepsy, I don't like.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I don't love PEPSI. I don't I don't even love colas.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Pepsy's a sponsor.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yes, I love PEPs What I'm saying you always love
that I made I drink.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Lemonade and I drink sweet tea. Okay, that's my thing.
I'm not a cola person, but I can tell the truth.
Blind taste tests. Pepsi tastes better than coke.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
We're gonna make Anna vomit.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's fine, that's good. It won't be the first time
I threw up at work. Check this out. Okay, we
know for in fact, pepsi taste better than cocaine. Nobody
wants to see it. Coke got the better ads. Okay,
I'm fine with that. But blind taste tests, Okay, just
m M taste better. I can pick out a Coca cola.

(36:16):
You can smell it. You can smell that coc and
you can clean your engine with it. You can. I
don't want nothing that I can clean my engine with it.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Just a little update, and it's leaving the room.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I hope she's okay. Yeah, she's gonna be all right.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
The good thing is so cold outside. If she passes
out like that that I will keep her body frozen.
She'll be okay, we can revive her.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Speaking of hangovers, that's actually how you cure a hangover.
How's that it's sixteen greens today. Yeah, it's cold, walk outside,
wake up and walk outside. Shock to the system to.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Be ready to drink again.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
You'll be like, oh yeah, I can use a shot.
DA it is dead, is right there?

Speaker 5 (36:56):
All right?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
BC powder can walk outside.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
We got a shot on Sunday with the dumb let's
make it.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Too in the row. Can we beat the Eagles? We
play this Saturday.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yes, we play Saturday, Saturday.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Five Saturday, and we're in the divisional tournament, which I
love the analogy of the divisional tournament. And we hear
the hate, like bring the hate. As a dB, my
skill is a hating skill. It's true. Wide receiver, think
he's open or it's gonna be a touchdown, crowd cheer,
knocked it down. Hate. That's what my job was is

(37:31):
to hate.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Did you enjoy being on the road. I mean, I
know you love being home because everyone yelled smooth.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I love being on the road. That I love back
against the wall. I love playing the spoiler. Everybody fans there,
They got their kids in the stand, got their wife
to there. This is the perfect family out and until
we beat you by forty But hate it ain't nothing
like going into a team stadium and kicking ay Keista

(37:58):
and then walk out. You see them fans with their
head down. I'm gonna tell you the ultimate place to
do this at Philadelphia. It ain't nothing like kicking the
Eagles butt and watch them turn on their team. They
turn instantly on their team. They lash out, they throw

(38:19):
stuff at your bus. It's like so fulfilling, like you
gotta have that joker. It's like the Joker when his
head was hanging out the windows the other police.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
That's a great scene.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I just want to come down through the middle of
Philadelphia doing one hundred mile hour with my head. It's
just soaking it in, just basking in the misery of
those bleacher creatures in Philadelphia. It's nothing like that feel.
That's why Coach was like and Enjody's for a minute,
feelers in Jeordie's locker room feeling, because it's different. It's

(38:52):
different when you go to somebody's place and you whoop
the man. It's like you just take the soul, even
your demeanor.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Right now, you were getting more hyped up than you've
been the entire pot. I mean, you've had great energy,
but I'm saying, like listening to you talk about it
and think about it. I can feel your energy.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Chance, it's a deviant part of it. This Let's go
take the soul part. And it's not just the football
team that you're beaten. You're beating the fan base. Yeah,
like you're beating the fan base, and you're making them
feel it. Like you know, for seven days they will
be down. You know that work product will be down.
You know, the just the demeanor down, all right, and

(39:34):
you know you are responsible for that. Don't be the
guy that made to play to win the game. You
are completely responsible for the way this millions of people feel.
All right. That's power right there, That's the power of hate.
And that's what I'm selling right now to the team.
Let's hate on the Cowboys, Let's hate on the Eagles,

(39:57):
Let's hate on everybody with a football in their hand.
Ain't nothing like it. It's one of the best feelings
in the world.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
You know who we need a hate like right now?
The biggest hater on the planet right now.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Is the biggest Have you seen these interviews, because you
know he was the executive producer of the Shawn Combs documentary,
which is unbelievable, by the way.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Hold on, let me tell you how he took his
hat in to a d V on the level.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
The interviews he does, Yes, the spot on his face
he said everything I mean you, I mean he is,
so he's enjoying every second sa diabolical.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yes, and you know he did the interview with ABC
instead of CBS because ABC is shown in local jails.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
So Puffy would see it.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yes, this dude is a vielain of the highest tenure.
Like he is a real life joker.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
This I'm telling you that the videos, the screenshots of
they can't wipe the smile off his face.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
He's been telling people for a decade and now. And
by the way, this documentary is like so well done,
and it's not it's not done in a vindictive way.
It just lays out the facts.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's vindictie.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
You know it's well that's the motivation.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
But I'm saying the way it's produced, you wouldn't know
unless you saw or heard.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Oh this is fifty cents because.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
He's feeling it out, just like this is just information
you need to know.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yes, most definitely, But yeah, we gotta go full fitty
on them. We got to go fitty, full fitty on
the NFCS. We got to expose Jarry Jones. We got
to hate on the philadefinitely. Egans. This is what we
gotta do with the Eagles. We gotta make them hate
each other even more. That's what we gotta do.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Let them turn towards each other a little bit more. Yes,
where we frustrate them so much that we you see
a j. Brown and Jalen Hurts going at it on
the field. They there they there wasn't I started saying
they were best friends in college.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I mean, yes, besties, but now I got to depend
on my besties to get my stats right. Yeah, and
he won't get my stats right. So they go where
the tear comes in at all? Right, like you my bestie,
but you can't throw right, And I'm telling the world
you can't throw. But won't nobody listen to me.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
And here's the thing too, They act like they're friends.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Oh Caroline, sure, by the way, hello Caroline, Like she's
subbing in for an all quick change you got to do. Yeah,
so they're all good this past week, and it is like, yeah,
you're good for a week because you played the Raiders
who stink and they still didn't have a daze Once
you guys get a little bit of fight from someone,
just like we've seen in previous weeks.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Yeah, you're not gonna be that happy. Like they're waiting
to fracture again. They are right, they teetering.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh that's a good word. They're right here there. Listen,
this stove is boiling, and it's about the ball over
and it all. It takes a catalyst. Yes, a catalyst
is Hamilton, Antonio Hamilton going out there and sharing a
j Brown down.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
It's like Jinger right.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
All you need is someone to pull that block the
wrong way and the whole household things coming down.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
And that's what's gonna happen in Philly if we can
trigger that mess up. And when we play Dallas, all
you got to do is poke that that George Pickings,
this is all listen, the psychopathics, Hey, these teams got triggers. Yes.
All we got to do is serve that big dish
of hate. Yes, and we can trigger a last slide

(43:41):
that can leak into next season. Yes, And that's what
we're trying to do right now. I know y'all, like
smoot Man, we can't. We can't, we can't live off
I hate. Yes, we can't. Yeah, Yes, this was my job.
My whole job, my whole life is a cornerback, was
to hate professional hater. I was a professional hater for decades,
all right, and I enjoyed every beating. Now listen, that's

(44:02):
why if I was playing right now, all I was
wear is the Joker clicks and the Joker gloves.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Everyone else is representing charities across the country, like but
not Fred Smooth.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I was sending the.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Joker for Christmas. Then what I brought myself for Christmas?

Speaker 5 (44:17):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I brought him a set of Joker clicks, and he
got the joker gloves that when he put him up
like this, he got the smile on this kind of sick. Oh,
that's because that's who my son is. He's the joker.
He the joker at the bunch and I and I
love it. So if we can insight Riot, we've done
our job.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Let me ask you about Jalen Hurts, because he's a
fascinating case. Look, Jalen is the Eagles are the defending
super Bowl champions. Yes, Jalen is the defending super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
You would not know that he for some reason, he
only plays well in the biggest games Okay, regular season,
he's not so worried postseason. Yeah, he turns into the
perfect quarterback. Regular season numbers is not his thing. Yeah,

(45:05):
Like winning is his thing, and it could be his boring.
He don't care how the dish he serves. He just
want to winning dish. Yeah, and we know about today's
wide receivers and quarterbacks, they all numbers. He's the total
opposite of the norm, right, Yeah, I think about it.
His two biggest games ever in the Super Bowl. Yeah,

(45:27):
I played my homes twice. But I can't get him
to do that on a Thursday night football game. Yeah,
it's true. And he has benefitted from always having a
better roster than the next quarterback he played.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
That was my next question, So how much. Look, I
think he's very challenged. I think he's one of the
better quarterbacks in the NFL. And also, as always said,
both things can be true. And also it's hard not
to be pretty good when you're playing with arguably the
most talented roster, least on paper national football.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
He go his last three rosters Alabama team with forty
pros on through Oklahoma team with forty pros on it.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
I try to wash that Oklahoma memory.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
I totally understand. And he comes to the Eagles and
Harry Rosney got him the best roster in football. He
got two Pro Bowl wide receivers as a Pro Bowl
tight end. His whole office line is problem last few years.
Oh God, God's gifts to running backs behind him? What

(46:33):
else can I?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
What else?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Put it like this? If you put Jedi five on
the Philadelphia oh forget it, they go seventeen and oh
with doubt or doubt, seventeen and seventeen, they would be
the undefeated team because they've got no weaknesses. Right, play breakdown,
Jamon just run? If not, I just handed the saque

(46:56):
and I know Jaydon can get it to a j
Brown the way he want me. But you know how
this is?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Are you being hyperbolic because you know seventeen on the National.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Football I promise you if Jedi five was on the Eagles,
they would be seventeen and oh, I'm convinced because all
the flaws that Jalen Hurts got his scrints. Yeah, precision passer,
faster runner, stand taller in the pocket. No, they would

(47:25):
be semteen and up. Most dangerous team in football, Like
where's the cracks? Yeah, well would be the crack because
they always gonna play with the league. If I'm always
gonna play with the league.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
That means no more touch push though you don't need
to touch push anymore.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
But I got this defense that's gonna always have a league.
With this defensive line, we're gonna win.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Let me ask you about this defense. Yeah, I mean
Jalen Carter is stupid.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, well is a ratic. He's a ratic defense. He
shows up and play sometimes, then he got to miss
a game because it's always some with Jamie cort So
I don't know where he's at on the maturity where
he's at father as being mature. But they got some
dudes on this defense, most definitely Queen m Mitchell. Oh yeah,

(48:13):
if he could catch, that's why he's goingner. No, don't
you do that. You rent your wretched mouth.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
I'm saying, not all corners.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
You were talking about how good Mikey says, still list
you wretchet mile out.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
And guess what I told people when Colus Rogers was here,
he can't see. Didn't he get like I told him
to get LA six while we was here. He waited
until he went to San Francisco. He led the league
and in the seth thank you anytime a Cornell breaking
out of cutting the ball hitting him in the head.
He can't see it. I said to them, he's near sighted, smooth,

(48:51):
you ain't, no doctor, I'm close. I'm close, very closer.
I know what two plus two equal four. Yes, the
dude can't see. You can see perfectly. No, he could.
So I tell you, like this, quinnya Mitchell could catch,

(49:13):
he would have ten pigs. Let's talk about doctors for
a second.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
We got some time. Let me tell you about the
worst advice I ever got from a doctor.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
What was that? Okay?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
So when I was in Austin, I have a hernia
the disc in my back right right, okay, And I
had surgery on that. I had a diskectomy. And after
that diskectomy, I reharniated the disc, right, okay. So I
went to a doctor and this guy was near the
end of his career, and oh, don't ever go to.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
This cat tells me. He goes, well, Michael, i'd recommend
you have your spine fused.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I call it a life ender.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
If it works, great.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
If it doesn't, ah, you can't walk, you can't run,
you can't have sex, you can't sit, you have a
hard time eating, it's awful.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
And I was like, well then, yes, what I'm not knowing?

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah, And so I ended up not having it. I'm like,
how would you ever tell somebody I call this a
life hnder?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
When you told me it was his last week of work,
whatever it was, I'm like, that's just like getting is
made on Friday. It won't last. Yeah, Like, I'm sorry.
When the doctor mentally had checked out, you believe it,
don't send me to his office. Listen. The one thing
people would do when it comes to health, they will
try anything, just like London probably flying to India to

(50:35):
get his scap, get their hair put in his head.
You know how people fly to India get their hair
put in their head.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yes, that's like a thing.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Now that's the thing. It's Turkey. It's Turkey. Yeah, London
been to Turkey. I need to look at his path
for it. Probably been there three times. Let this work.
They take it on Pip hair London, oh, oh, Pip
hair and putting it in his head. Yes they are,
because I'm doing they not prepared to them. Boys. All

(51:04):
I know is this medical reasons will make human beings reach.
It'll make them reach and do things that's out of
the ordinary, like and nothing hurts a man's soul, like
going ball not me and you Jinx. We ain't got
to work about that.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
I got a friend of mine, she just like she's
convinced I've had some sort of hair. Yeah, she's like,
let's talk about I long short this friend a few
weeks ago, She's like, let's talk about your hair.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I'm like, there's nothing to talk about. It's flying. I
got lucky. I got some hair.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
You want to lucky?

Speaker 5 (51:37):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Like, I don't know what to tell you all.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
It's not meant to be bald all. It's not meant
to be bad. Me and you headed to silver fox
neess hope, So we're gonna have silver something. That's what
it's about. But you know, like I know because you
got ball head friends too. It's a small depression that
comes with that.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yeah, with that, it can't be easy.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Like I tell my friends out tied that just all.
At least she still got your eyebries.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
It ain't all bad.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
That's the only hair on your head is your eyebrow
in their ear hair that's it. You never noticed when
guys go ball, the first thing they do is grow
a beer, the facial hair, they grow the bed. Yeah,
can you grow beard? Oh yeah, oh, Smooths elb do it?

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Know?

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Listen, I used to do it every year for no
shave November. I would do it. I grow my smoothers
a but I grow the beard in Oh listen, it
looked pretty good too. Now, don't let the smooth taste.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Fool you do it. I can, I can do it,
but god, it just gets so white, like you look
like old man Winter.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I've can say, like you grow there, Paul Pierce, playoff beard.
It's fine for a little bit, but it gets so white.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
I'm like, man, you gotta shave.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
It looks terrible. Yeah, yeah, I might grow mine now, smoogers.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Let me read this ad and it's gonna come back
in and like the shows, What the hell happened in
this podcast? You guys were talking about the Eagles. The
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(53:15):
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Speaker 3 (53:18):
See geek has tickets.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
See gek is the official primary ticketing partner of your
Washington Commanders.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
You want to get you out before we go.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Do you have anything?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Let me see the thing that you found interesting?

Speaker 2 (53:29):
You know me, man, I'm for every one thing about
knowledge you can learn to you one hundred years old,
and that's what I love. I love to read a
good book.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Oh you know what, I'll tell you something because I've
been I've been studying, learning a lot about artificial intelligence.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
You scared, You're afraid.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
What's interesting is yes, you have to be afraid because
these different chat thoughts, Like I've used everything from from
Claude to Gemini to Chad GBT to co Pilot to
Grock like you name it, use it, and they have
different personalities like Claude. I finally had to be like, hey,

(54:06):
like I need you to like stop and think about
what you're saying. And that's when I knew I like,
I need to log off. I was talking about job
and workflow management and I was like, Hey, if I'm
doing this, I could also do this at the same
time if I'm planning my workflow and Claude was like,
you're doing it again. You're punting on your responsibilities. I'm like,

(54:27):
have you never heard of multitasking? And it was like, yeah,
you're right, I'm sorry about that. You can do two
things at once. I'm like, okay, I need to log
off immediately.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
See, I ain't really got into the check. I haven't
gotten into like I don't even talk to my phone,
but like Anna, yeah, like you know, like Anna, Carolina.
They'd be like call Anna. I was like, how about you?
Just what is going I got? I will continue to

(55:01):
show right now with invisible jinks right here, but I
would keep my conversation going on with Caroline. I don't
do the AI. I don't talk to my phone. I
don't take any shortcuts. I like to like if I'm
gonna tex somebody, I'll go in there and tex them.
I never trust my phone because I'm afraid that the
phone is listening to too much, like a Hey.

Speaker 8 (55:26):
Siri call, Like when I drive, I'll be like, hey Siri,
came mom on my way home? Yeah yeah, I'll do that.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
No, I'm still I'm still like I would grab the
phone and text and drive. I know that I shouldn't
do that, but I would. I have yet to tell
my phone to call somebody. I won't do that. I
won't talk to Chat because I don't need your information.
Why would I need you to tell me what I
need to do today.

Speaker 8 (55:53):
Chat can get a little su some time, like sometimes
also when we're looking up SATs for games for other shows,
like that's wrong, yeah, and then I'm like and then
I'll tell it. I'm like, Chat, you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
But how can you tell a machine intelligence? You telling
you do?

Speaker 8 (56:09):
Because we'll get the research notes like the ones yet,
so what.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Does he say to you when you say you're wrong?

Speaker 8 (56:13):
Oh, yes, you are right? And then I'll like be
like blah blah blah jadon Daniels through for this man
day on this day in this game. So like it's
it will be wrong, and.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
It'll be like, so we don't care about being it,
don't need to be right all the time. I guess not.

Speaker 8 (56:26):
I guess sometimes it just like gets close enough. But
like when we get the research notes and it's like
those are obviously approved, yeah, and it's wrong. I will
throw something out there and yeah, sometimes it'll be wrong.
I don't use it that much, or like when we're
just trying to get like I don't know, like our
rush yards per game, the a I think on Google
it will be wrong.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
So am I being a dirty old man because I
want get into that? Am I not accepting the future?

Speaker 8 (56:53):
Honestly? Chat is just ruining everything, like kids in school,
and that suffs wrong.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I think about this. When Man Jakes was in school,
all our answers was in books. Your generation had the
Internet that you can always look up answers. Now you
got chat in every other AI. Do you need to
study in school anymore? Do you need to?

Speaker 8 (57:14):
Like Chad was like just coming into play when I
was graduating, Like I graduated in twenty three, all right,
so Chad was like just like coming up, Like it
wasn't It wasn't what it is now. But you had
the Internet, like you you have the yeah, for sure,
but like I mean some stuff it wasn't as helpful
as you think.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, when you're.

Speaker 8 (57:30):
Writing a paper, Yeah, like when you're getting sources and
saving stuff like you have to.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Use yeah that kind of stuff. Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 8 (57:36):
Kids are dropping like whole tests into chat and getting answers.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
It'll give you everything you need to know.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
The more we used to get hit with plagiarism because
we took we took the zach words at the Encyclopaem, how.

Speaker 8 (57:50):
Are you getting hit in pleagiarism when you're rating it
by hand.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Because we're taking the zach words from the encyclopedia. I
know you don't even know what that is. That it was.
It was a group of books.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
You would get comfort plagiarism when you're literally handwriting a.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Paper, you know, Yeah, because they could because especially back then,
you could look at it encyclopedia.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Also everyone had very similar reference points, right like you
there was a booklet.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
You need to read these books to get into this class.
This was like I feel like I've heard this passage before.
You could kind of recognize. And plus you knew the
student well enough to know, I know this is not coming.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
From you, thank you, and this is this the whole thing?
So right now I think learning just different. Like it's
an information highway.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Well and also you that's what he used to call
the Internet, remember that, the information super high highway.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
But now the super highway got self drive. Yes, and
this to thing about it. Man, this showed it went
too long. Fred I need to tell you this.

Speaker 8 (58:50):
I'm on chat to BT and I just said, who
is fred Smooth? And it literally says full name, Frederick Smoot.
I'm sorry, it's got your whole thing.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Why would you? Why would you? Ain't in you saying
my government we can believe it. And you know what,
I'm shocked that they got my right information because I
remember when the Internet first started. You remember they sent
us to paper for Wikipedia, so you to put down
your Wikipedia information. And I literally made sure my middle

(59:20):
name was Dwyane, so nobody can ever steal my d
So usually if you look me up, it said Frederick Dwayne,
which Dwane ain't my name?

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Oh wow, actually smart, Yeah wow. This has been a
we got a lot of books.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
It's probably been like seventy five minutes. The producer ran
out of here, sick. Listen, great show, great show, great
way to get lost field. That's how you come off
the bench, right But that's how you come off the
bench right there. This man I got wheeled out like
next woman up. Let's say, hey, listen, new Gen's come

(59:56):
on in here. I'm out. Let's get it up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Up against the Eagles next.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Hate hate hate hate hate hate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
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or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect
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