Season 3 of Next Man Up kicks off with rising star Brandon Coleman and Washington icon Doug Williams.
Coleman reflects on his rookie year, his move inside to guard, learning from Laremy Tunsil, and protecting Jayden Daniels after a historic season.
Then, Super Bowl MVP Doug Williams joins the show to break down the Commanders’ front office rebuild, Adam Peters’ drafting philosophy, and why Jayden Daniels is already the unquestioned leader of this team.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I found out probably draft night when he and my
lady were watching and I saw Josh got drafted. I'm like, well,
probably moving aside at this point time.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I see you getting younger.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I wish a lot of room. Can be very hostile,
very competitive, but that's not what I felt here. Like
from the first day I got here, I was comfortable.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
You know, Coach Quinn was talked about brotherhood. This is
the epitiment what brotherhood is all about.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Would be the best tackle in the league next to
you on the other side.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's like a great opportunity. When I was in town,
I wish my mom was there. Everything too.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Beans as old lineman, you probably yourself from protecting a
guy like that, you know, and not just him, but
like even the running backs, everybody, to give them a
chance to go out there and shine. That's why I
pride myself.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
In the day. This is Jaydon Danes football team. They
believe in Jaydon Danes, and I think that makes it different.
And if you believe in your quarterback, your defense gonna
play better, your offensive line, everybody else gonna play better.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Command this family. Welcome in to season three of The
Next Man Up. Y'all been rocking with U. Y'all helped
us get nominations for this and that, and we're back
with more. But this time we are in the big
Bear AI Command Center studio and we got a big
body with us. Our offensive lineman is crazy. When you
sat here last time, he was a rookie, but you're
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not a rookie no more. Welcoming in our Next man Up,
Brandon Call and my brother you feel.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It, man, appreciate you BC and VC. That's right.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But like I said, man, last time we spoke, you
had just put paying the paper. You were a rookie.
You didn't even do Next Man Up last year because
you were locked in on being a rookie. Now you're
in year two, your first full off season. What was
it Like?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It was good?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Kind of just get like three months off that's like
needed after that season. But it was good, man, Like
I kind of knew what it had to work on,
you know, like that first one where you kind of
just get until you get drafted.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Everything's going around.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You have like your Senior Bowls and your draft stuff.
You don't really know where you're supposed to go. Like
then you get here and you're just kind of following orders,
But you know, that offseason was really big, just like
recover knowing what I had to do, and then like
also how to like work on my things coming back,
like kind of what I wanted to do, planning my
life out.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You know, you kind of know what's coming at you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah. Man, you got engaged, that's right. Yeah, yeah, man,
congratulations on that. Why was that something you wanted to
take care of.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, we actually got engaged in December twenty three, like
right before, so we kind of Yeah, so I got that,
you know, kind of knocked out, not really out the way,
but you know, knocked out just because you know, very
hectic time coming along. But when I were able to
start playing, we started playing in this past offseason, so
kind of gave us a year.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
To get ourselves under our feet. She moved in with
me in November.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Congratulations, appreciate I appreciate it. So you're doing grown man.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Moves on, that's right. Got to at some point, well.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean, bro, listen, you're not a rookie no more.
Right that year flash by. Have you had a chance
to really reflect on what your rookie year was or
have you just been so low then on the next
season that you haven't really got time.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yet, Noah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know those first couple weeks, I went back home
to Germany obviously and kind of just detached from everything,
kind of reconnected with family that I wasn't really talking
to just because you know, the season gets kind of
long and you kind of try to stay in that tunnel.
But when I came back, I went right back to training,
just went back to Fortworth, and that's kind of where
I reflected on, not just like my game boss, so
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like where was at with like recovery things, connecting with
people because I'm already like a bad Texter as it is,
but you know it's important to like be there and
talk to your family, to your friends, just because you
know they're worried about you, like what happens to you
on the field obviously. So there's a lot of things
that I could reflect on, like how I live my
life on and off the field a lot better going
into the season, just being more structured, kind of knowing
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what's going like coming on just playing a lot better.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
What made that stand out to you?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Like when you sit back and look at how the
season went, what makes you say that, Okay, I need
to do these things like reconnecting with people, different things
like that. What made you feel that way?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, you know, it's just a lot of times where
people were reaching out to me first, and it's like
I was like, oh, yeah, how you doing it, Like
it's been like weeks since we talked.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It didn't really like I didn't notice it at first.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So you know, it's just important to me to have
those people around and kind of, you know, because they're
my supposed system if their friends or family, so it's
also important to kind of let them into my world
at times because everybody's excited.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
My family's really excited.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
About the opportunity I got and the blessings I've been
I've been given, so you know, it's also right for
them to be here and kind of enjoy that too.
That's kind of what the communication is about too, not
just like the materialistic stuff, but also just the moments
sharing practice, like how practice was, how games are, how
my day to day is Like they're interested in that
stuff and they they love me, so I also want
to like give back to them to be able to
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be there.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And I think I think a lot of people understand
that aspect of what this game does right, because yes,
your NFL player, Yes you're making a good amount of
money here, right, You're following your dreams, but you're also
away from your family. You're also a young man who
has family in another country and many different places. You
said your lady just moved in with you. Was there
a time during last season where it hits you and
you were like, man, I really need my community here.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Was there a time there was like I, like you said, like,
I'm from Germany obviously, so like I'm really used to
being away from family, Like I never really needed my
family around, but last year I feel like was the
first time where there's things like moving to my first
like house, like actually signing the lease for it, having
to do all these things in My fiance was moved
into November, so I was alone, and there's like a
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lot of things I questioned about. I was like, I
wish like my parents were here, or my sister. You know,
she's six years older, so she already went through a
lot of these things I'm going through just planning life.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And then my dad obviously was like an.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Athlete, he knows about certain things, so you know, having
them around would make things a lot easier.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But you know, that's why that phone.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So that's why it's important for me also just to
call them kind of get on the phone, get there,
get their opinions on things, and also just just share
some thoughts.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And I think what helps too as being in a
building where it is that family atmosphere, and that's what
you hear from every guy, even once that come in
on their first day, they say, oh, this is different,
this is a brotherhood.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
How have you been able to lean on your teammates
veterans and things like that during those times where you know,
you have questions where you're getting your first house, You've
never been a rookie before, you've never been on the
road doing this. How are you able to lean on
your teammates?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, I mean, you know that's what a lot of
guys have been saying.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I've been around me is like you want to you know,
the locker room can be very hostile, very competitive, but
that's not what I felt here.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Like from the first day I got here, I was comfortable.
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It wasn't about like, oh, they drafted this guy so
he might be playing this position.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It was just about welcome to the family.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You know, a lot of guys last year were also
coming in that off season, so obviously like we're still jelling,
which was cool, But yeah, there was never any talk
about like on the field stuff and competitiveness. Obviously that's there,
like we're all competitives, we all want to earn a
spot and play, but that was never really like a
discourse in the locker room or like in our room,
like we're always trying to make each other better. And
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for me, there's like guys like last year we had
Conrince Lucas who helped me a lot on the field,
and then Nick and Drew like they helped me a
lot with just in general things like on the field,
there's a lot of things that I was able to
get better on. And like you said, when I had
any questions about like where's this around this area? Where
can I get food spots? To like how do I
handle some financials now that I have like this set
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some you know, because they obviously have experience with that.
So I thought I could go to anybody in this
building about anything. You don't get any type information I need.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's a beautiful thing to have to especially for somebody
like you who comes in and we know this is
an athletic freak. Right here is somebody that's versatal, is
somebody that can play on any position on the offensive line.
You got to play tackle, looked great. But then you
come into this year and DT says it moving a
big guy inside man. We're going to take advantage of
all that athleticism. First things first, when did you find
out that you were going to be making a position change?
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And what was that like for you? Because you're still
very young man, that's tough to make those pivots.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, you know, I'm just grateful.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I was able to play a lot of positions through college,
so I kind of have some experience. Obviously the next
level is completely different, but you kind of already know
certain things about the position.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But y'all found out probably draft.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Night when my lady were watching and I saw Josh
got drafted. I'm like, well, probably moving aside at this point,
but you know, I like, I'm not really surprised by it,
because the first thing that I said when I got here,
just like when we talked on the film when they
signed out T is like wherever y'all need me at, Like,
I'm cool with it, And they've been very great with
communicating with me about everything, you know, giving me like
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a lot of time in the off season to train
adjusted to my position.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
You know, I was in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Working with an online guy and that gave me enough
time to work those two weeks with him at left
guard to kind of get comfortable before coming in. So
it's been really cool the way that they handled that
and also like tied me into.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
A lot of this conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
How has it been as the player being on that field,
being somewhere different? You said, you got to work, but
two weeks to seem like a lot of talk fear
for a brand new position. What has it been, like, Man,
it's been good.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know, Like like I said, I have some experience
and it was really just about getting that comfortable there.
Like I always talk about is like aiming points are different,
the way things happen, the quickness, the amount of strength
is obviously different from tackle.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Like a tackle, you dance a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You got to be patient at God is just getting
your hands on somebody and just wrestling. So it's like
getting that mindset. Obviously, change just takes you know. Camp
is like the best part of it because you put
pads on every day. You have guys like ken La,
who's one of the most frequently like huge humans I've met. Yes,
you know, and he's a hard worker, so I appreciate
stuff like that. Like we talk a lot after practice
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when we're in camp and talked about like, well I
can do better at guard versus like what I might
have done good, what he like then tries to work
off of. So like that like kind of working mindset
we have on the team is like such a huge
like benefit to wanting to get better and also just
being able to get better.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But other than that's been good.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's like kind of just like a day to day
process of like just building building blocks and it's getting
better every day.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And I'm sure it's like that for the rest of
your career, right, You're always constantly building. But one thing
that I've been very impressed with with the staff in
front office is all these young guys got old heads
and old he's in the building a world that have
found so much success around you. They bringing a god
like Laramie tunsel right, future Hall of Famer arguably man.
What has it been like being able to play alongside him,
not only learn from him talking, but just being able
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to watch how he works and how all pro gets
done when it comes to business.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, I mean, aside from just like being able to
talk to him about the game, Like my game has
changed so much just playing next to him, but not
even talking about what we should do different, but just
like playing next to him, seeing how he communicates on
the field, Like it turned my communication up by like
one thousand percent, And that's something that I want to
focus on this year, just because you know, the game
slows down a lot more in year two, so.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Like communication is a lot better.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You're able to process a lot quicker, and just him
being there like talking like that, it kind of like
pushes it wrong on the whole wole line. So everybody's
constant communicating, you know, stuff like that, and then you know,
it's like things like him being able to be so
cool and like lay back is like one of the
biggest benefits I feel like to young guys, Like I
was able to go to Auburn where he trains at
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this offseason for a week and just like hang out
with him work out, you know, just to see how
like how much you tail he has to his workouts
and how it like reconnects to the game. Like I
told him, like, I might be here like every offseason
training with you. I don't know if I have to
pay you or your guy, but like you know, it's
just like the that's like what makes him different than
anybody else is just like the stuff that he does
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that nobody sees, you know, and being able to learn
from something like that, and even for Josh like first
year and you got like the best tackle in the
league next to.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You on the other side, is like a great opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And it's a great opportunity for you as well, because
on the flip side, like you said, it's Josh Conley Jr.
A rookie offensive lineman coming in here for the first time,
just like you did last year. Man, how have you
been able to know it's tough only a year two guy? Right,
it's hard to think of yourself as a veteran, but
you're on that way. How have you been able to
help ease his transition in and kind of help him
get through some of those hurdles that you were going through.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, there's not.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
A lot that I have to like, Wow, he's that
locked in, Like yeah, it's not even just locked in
but like he came in and he was acting like
he knew what was going on. Like obviously you have
to like get used to this by in like the area,
like the environment you're in. But like first practice, he
was already knew what he had to do, plans that
he worked on with og terms of what he had
to work on, Like it was impressive how he handled it,
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and I got excited. Like the only thing that I
tell all the rookies is like when we get like
rest days, you know, you know you want to like
y'all got this trainer for the next week when we
got off, it was like, just take the rest days.
It's a long season. That's the one thing I learned
that rookie year. You went through all that stuff from
January till now. I was like, whenever you got it
off day, like do some low, low maintenance stuff. Don't
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push it because I mean, your body's going to need
that rest. But it's really just things that I learned
from that I teach him. Like everything else. He has
like great guys in the room obviously that he can
learn from a lot better than from me. But just
like normal stuff that I took as from a rookie
last year, especially in the new system that we're in
that I kind of just try to tell him and
all the other rookies what they could do better.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's crazy even talking to you right now, I can
hear and see the maturity because again, last time we
said we see each other all the time and say
what's up. The last time we sat down like this,
you were truly a rookie, hadn't even touched the field yet.
So it's really dope to see how you've progressed. And
a big part of that progression, I'm sure something you've
been helping Josh fruit as well is that camaraderie and
that chemistry between you and your starting quarterback. Right we
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didn't know what that was going to look like because
both of you guys rookies, y'all had not played on
the field yet. However, you guys had a full season together,
and what a season it was, man, a historic rookie
season for Jaden Daniels. Now, what has it been like
not only getting to play with the athlete that is
Jading Daniels, but getting to know the man that is
Jaden Dane.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we're both kind of introverted people,
so we don't share like a bunch of words. But
I mean I have all the love for Jayden, you know,
not just like what he does on the field, obviously
he's in my as the best quarterback in the league,
and then what he does, but off the field, like
the things that he does for the community, the way
that he handles the fans that come up to him.
You know, he always wants to give back, and you
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know that makes you only want to play for such
a guy even more and protect them because he goes
through the links that he goes to the to put
his best foot out there. And as the old lineman,
you pride yourself and protect a guy like that, you know,
and not just him, but like even the running backs everybody,
to give them a chance to go out there and shine.
That's why I pride myself in It's like as an
old Liman, I feel like if you're a true Allama,
you don't need all that shine like you just want
to make sure that the guys around you are able
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to perform, because every play for us is a performance,
but you need to be able to give them a chance.
You know, there's gonna be that one play for them
where they can go and show off who they are,
and we need to make sure that that plays every
play for us. So, you know, I'm just happy that
I'm able to protect a guy like him, like a
generational player, that I'm able to be there while he's here.
It's like, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And they were so happy to have somebody like you
here protecting j Dale's a Lara via Josh and all
the other guys. And before we let you go, man,
we're a week away from the start of the season.
You're moving into a new position. Man, what is Brandon
Coleman's expectations for himself coming into YouTube?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, you know, it's obviously I have like my positional
things like wanting to get better at the position every week.
You know, it's a building block throughout the year, which
I saw last year too. It's kind of like the
similar situation didn't have preseason, So it's just building off
of every week during the season communicating a lot more
and then yeah, it's really just kind of getting stronger
every week. You know, as everybody goes on, like your
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body starts to wear down, you start to get tired.
You know, it's like once a week builds up. But
one thing I have is like to keep the you know,
the foot on the pedal and kind of just keep
giving gas. And that's kind of what we also want
to do as a team. You know, you don't want
to slow down. You don't ever want to do that.
And this year, now that kind of have a year
under my belt, I know what's coming, I'm able to
prepare a lot better, kind of get surround myself with
things and people a lot better that are going to
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help me be successful this year, and us just kind
of do that this ye.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, Brandon, Man, we're so excited to see you continue
to progress. Man. What a rookie class last year was
and you were a big part of that. Man, So
we thank you so much. I don't think there was
a better person to have as our first guest season
three of Next Man. Brandon Coreen, my brother. I appreciate you, man.
Congratulations on the success. Congratulations on your future wedding that's
coming up. Appreciating yeah, brother, just appreciate your timing. Yeah,
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appreciate you for having me command this family. Our next
man up now are Inside Guard Brandon Covid. Appreciate you, brother,
Appreciate you command this family. You already know the drill.
We don't just give you all a player. We also
give you, guys, some of your favorite Washington legends. And
this one right here is a Super Bowl champ, a
Super Bowl MVP, and received an astounding honor earlier this month.
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Command his family here with one of the best to
ever do it change the game as we know it.
NFL would not be the same without this guy. Mister
Doug Williams is in the building. Man, How you doing
doing well?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yes, sir, It's always good to see you. It seem
like every time I see you getting younger, I wish but.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Got ro half though.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
We are just a week away from the twenty twenty
five NFL season. What has this off season been like
for you? With all the things you were doing in
the front office?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Now, well, you know what, it's exciting, Number one. I'm
looking forward to the season to begin. For what Adam
and Lance and coach Quinn has done with this team
along with and everybody man, and the pieces that they
have added to go with the team that we already
had in place. It's exciting, you know. It says a
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lot about them as leaders and this team as a
whole and just to be a part of man makes
me feel real good.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Mister Doug. I love your perspective because you've been around
longer than most people in this building. You have seen
so many different things happen here for Washington, and now
you're a part of this almost a resurgence of sorts. Man,
What has that been like from you and your perspective
after all you've been through with Washington.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well, let me say that I've been here going on
twelve years, and I can say the first teen you know,
I was in a position and you think that's the
way that the league is supposed to be rand. But
the last two years showed me a whole different perspective
how things are done and the guys that are coming
here in the ownership. Man, you can't say enough about
the ownership. But they have done with this team, you know,
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mister Harris and all other guys that's partner with him,
Man has coming here and let them realize that the
most important thing was this football team. And they put
their money where their mouth was and coach Quinn and
Adam and Lance and David, they did what they had
to do, along with all the scouts and everybody that's
on the road, and they put together a great team,
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great great character, a really culture team that believe in
each other. You know, coach Quinn always talk about brotherhood.
This is the epitiment what brotherhood is all about.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You get to see things done the right way. Can
you elaborate on one of those things are for you
and a front office that is the right way because
you have an issue respective because you were a player.
You were a player and now you're part of that
front office. Two very different worlds. How's it been? Well?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You know, for me, what I've seen along the way
is how they choose players per se. You know, you
had a team. You can have a team and you
just this player that player because he's this, he's dad.
Let's bring them in. But at the end of the day,
they don't mix. And what has happened here, you know,
they make sure the guys that they bring in and
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have good character, love football, that's the most important thing,
and want to be a part of it. And the
last two years that had happened here and I've seen
it happen. Man, it makes me feel good that at
this stage of my career, you know, I can see
it done right and be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And that's that's really what you are. You're not only
a part of it, you having a close up look.
You're in those draft rooms with Adam Peters, and that's
what's gotten his bread and butter. Right, everybody's saying, this
guy knows how to draft, getting to be in that
war room, getting to be a part of this decision making.
What has that been like for you and how has
it been watching a guy like Adam Peters really get
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into his own the first two years of the gym.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, just listening to and listening and talking about the
players along with all the coaches that come in there
and talk about the players, and whatever two bits that
you have, you can add it to it. But at
the end of the day when they make a decision,
it's going to be mostly Adam and Dan gonna come
up with a decision that after they listen to everybody.
That's the good thing about Adam, the fact that he
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don't mind listening to you. And that's what has happened
around here. And if you look around these coaches, man,
they all feel like they're part of it. And I
think that makes it difference.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
When you get to evaluate right, because I know you're
watching that film. I know you want to give as
good advice as possible. So when you're watching these quarterbacks,
it's a different league, different college football than it was
when you play collegeotball, different NFL than it was. What
has it been like breaking down quarterbacks because the game
has changed so much.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, it's not the easiest thing in the world because
you got to look at so many things. You know,
you look at them from behind, from the end zone,
copy and you watch the quarterback, but see what he's watching,
how he moved his feet, how he delivered the football,
and cool up under pressure you got to have. You
got to have some coolness up under pressure man, just
like you. And then you know, when you look at it,
you got to, you know, put your own spin on it.
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Everybody gonna have a different opinion of whoever they looking
at it, whoever they're grading. But you got to stand
on your opinion when you see something. You got to
this how I saw it, and listen to other people
and see how they see it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
But it's good when you're sitting in that room and
you get what you think what he is, and you
listen to other people and they almost kind of like
the same thing. Make you feel good because you realize
you're not as worse as you think you are.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You like, I still got it. I can still do
this thing. Mister Doug. When you were in the room
and you got to see a guy like Jaden Daniels
get drafted, I'm sure everybody in that room was on
the same record with Jaden Daniels. You got to see
him get drafted. You're a big part of his rookie
year and that story of you being able to help
mentor him as you go into year two for Jaden
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Daniels his sophomore year, what have you seen from the
young man as you've been able to help him grow?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Nothing but improvement. You know you think about last year,
but just watching him, man, that would make us feel
so good. It make me feel good watching see how
he get along with all the other players and how
the other players come to him and realize that this
is his football team at the end of the day,
this is Jayden Danes football team. And that's not all
bad because they believe in Jaydon Daniel and I think
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that makes it different. And if you believe in your
quarter back, your defense, gonna play better, your offensive line,
everybody else gonna play better. And just watching Jaden throw
the football, Howie Mineu was around the other guys. I
watched him today and him coming off the field, we
walked down the whole sideline and shook everybody hand that
was on offense. That says a lot about who he
really is.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And doing the right things right, doing those little things
at such a young age. He hasn't even hit year
two yet. Have you seen anything like a Jaden Daniels before,
Because you've played there, you know what it's like. You
know the pressure that's on a franchise quarterback. Have you
seen anything like Jenny and Dais before?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I think was what it really has helped Jaden is
the fact that he stayed in college this whole turn.
You know, had an opportunity to play a lot of football,
see a lot of things. You know, guy won the Heisman,
he won everywhere he's being He won as a freshman,
he won as a senior. And I think it helped
him when he walked into here. It was just a
matter of him getting in here and making the adjustments, yes,
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of what the pro game was all about. And that
was easy because Bobby Wagner and Zach and those guys
made it easy for him to just relax and play football.
And last year, you know he did that. You know,
you didn't see him rattle. You didn't see him get rattled.
He wasn't in a rush. He played Jayden Ding's game
and Cliff Cliff did a great job with him, and
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it gave him things that he can handle. And now
is in the second year, and I think he can
handle anything because the way he handles stuff and he's
always cool of underpressure.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You mentioned Jackers and Bobby Wagner. Those are possibly two
future Hall of Famers, right, and you're talking about them.
Looking at Jaden a rookie as a leader, you've been
a quarterback before, you've been in that huddle. Can you
elaborate how tough that is to be able to gain
respect from your entire team, especially as a.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Rookie, well, especially at a young age your first year.
You know, I remember when I was in Tampa, and
you know, being a rookie quarterback, you just you have
to look around to see who's watching you, who gonna
patch you on the back, and everything like that. And
I think during my time they wanted to wait and see.
You know, it's one of those situations here, and you
know they grab it to him right away because they
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realized they had something specially in Jaydon. And you know,
Jaydon had done it well in college and they expect
him to do the same thing when he got here.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And for any quarterback going into year or two, right,
you're the standard for quarterbacks, right, Like it's a person
like you is somebody they would want to ask, Hey,
what do I do to prepare for year two? What
do I do to find success in year two? It's
not just for Jaden but any quarterback asking what would
be your advice to get past that rookie year and
get over what they call that sophomore slump.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, you know, I hear people talk about the sophomore slump. Man,
It's not about the sophomore slump. It's about the individual.
And I think what Jayden has done and what he
do now is doing what he's always done, and that's prepared.
The most important thing is preparing for the game and
having a good team around you, which I think he
does now. And he don't come in here, know later
than he did last year. Yeah, he literally, you know,
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and I think that in itself makes a difference because
he comes in here to prepare for the game, and
I think you're not going to catch Jayden off guard
saying he's not ready to play this game. And a
lot of the things don't worry him. You know, you
get a lot of young quarterbacks they worried about branding themselves. Now,
one time I heard Jane and Dane worried about branding himself.
At the end of the day, his plate on brand him.
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I think that's the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I think it's interesting that, like you mentioned these things,
but this isn't something that like you're teaching gim or
other people are teaching them. This seems to be a
nate for Jaden. Now there's to be something that like
his family raised him to be. What you think that's true?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Well, I think I think the biggest thing that Jacon
got gun for MA also is the fact that his mom.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Is always with and we're so lucky to have her.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Oh my god, man. You know, I had a chance
to talk to Jaden about a week or so ago,
and we sitting there, you know, and we talked about
some things, and I say, hey, man, your mom has
been a blessing to you, and she has been. You're
talking about a young man who is a grown man
who really loves his mom and he respects everything she does,
and she respects everything he does. And I think at
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the end of the day, that's what it's all about.
You know, you hear all these people out there on
social media, you know, trying to make certain things about
his mom. Right hey, man, that's his mom and he
loves his mom, and I'm for that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And you've been in positions of Jayden Daniels. I'm sure
you've been in this farm, even me and my job.
Right well, I wish my mom was right outside this
door right now because I want that support.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
When I was in town, I wish my mom was
there every day too.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
The Red Beans.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You don't say it. There's an importance there. And I
think that it's easy to judge Jaden and Daniels because
we haven't seen necessarily that before from a rookie quarterback.
But you've played the game. You're somebody that found success
at every single level. Can you speak to the importance
on why having that community there, having somebody like your mother,
a family member, a trusted person during all this madness
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is so valuable.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Well, you know, we don't know what happened in Jade
and Daniel's mind when he goes home. I'm sure there's
a lot of things on his mind. Sure, I'm sure
he got some people that he can call is his
mom or dad, whoever and talk about certain things, you know.
And for me and him, you know, we're going to
talk about so much because in here, you know, I
don't want to tell him anything about it really playing
the game because he got coaches. He got about three
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coaches in his room that played the position of quarterback,
and he don't need another one job with Jayden is
just to keep it on the straightened error, you know,
just talk about other things off the field and things
like that. That's what him and I do more than anything,
because I think as a player, everything that I would
lack for him to do, he's doing it. So at
the end of the days, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
It that's a beautiful problem to have, right Yeah. But
I love hearing that because those are the conversations right
there outside of football where you get to really know
who the man is, what the man is about. So
when you've had those conversations with Jayden, and I see
you smiling right now. I'm sure it'll hit you with
some things and you're just like, man, this kid's wise
around as just as that. It is getting to learn
and meet the man that is Jaden Daniels outside the field.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Well, it's important, you know, think about it. And when
we drafted Jayden, you know Adam who came to me
and said, why do you an't tell me you knew Jaden.
I've been knowing Jayden since twenty eighteen, number one, and
you know I always kept up with it, man, and
that was important. And you know my conversation with him
today is no different than it was then. Man, it's
about him the individual, the young man, and just seeing
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him go on the straight now, to me, that makes
me feel good because at the end of the day, man,
that's what it's all about. Playing that position that he playing.
He in a position that takes so much, so much
time and effort to play that position. Not the talent
he got talent, but it takes a whole lot of
other things that goes into it. And you just try
to keep his mind straight every morning. You know, when
I see him the first time I asked him and
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say you all right, man, he said, yeah, you know.
And if you see me down the hall, he said, Dougie,
you know, and we wave at each other. And that's
the way it is.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And just having you in this building is so valuable
for so many reasons. You do so much for these players,
but you also do a lot for the world. You
do a lot for the community. I have these cards here.
People know that they I don't do cards, but I
had to do cards secause I want to make sure
I read this right. The President's Lifetime Achievement Award. The
award is the highest civilian honor in America for service
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and volunteerisms. And you wore awarded that award earlier this
month out at Howard. How special was it to be
honored for not the work that you do on the field,
because you get that level all the time, but to
be for just being a great human.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
The crazy thing about that that award was actually on
my birthday. It's August the name yeah, because I mean,
I didn't say it, you know. And this has been
like about it was about five or six months ago
when they first called and they told me when the
award was going to be presented. I remember telling my wife,
I said, man, that's my birthday. You know, usually we
got something playing for my birthday, But a day like that,
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you know, it was all about accepting the award and
we was able to go to dinner that night.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
But when you do certain things a lot of time,
it ain't about getting rewarded for it. It's about doing
what you think is right. And everything I've done in
my life, even as a player and after the player,
it ain't for the rewards. It ain't for money. It's
because I want to see somebody else, because I remember,
you know, when I was younger, I had somebody pushing me.
I had been towards I had people telling me what
I can do and what I shouldn't do, And to me,
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that was the best thing that happened to me and
for me doing the things that I do today, I'm
just trying to help people just to get along and
do the right thing and make sure that they're successful.
I think that's that's what it's that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's what it's all about. But I love how humble
you are about it, because this said here. When I
was doing the research over four thousand hours of service
minimum to even be considered for an award like this,
and you got this recognition. I think it's very interesting
to get the recognition in the DMV, a place where
you've received a lot of different accolading recognition. You've got
the Super Bowls, you got the Super Bowl MVP. Then
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you get a recognition like this, which I feel like
maybe just as special or maybe even more special. Where
does this accoladeing recognition rank in all the things Doug
Williams has accomplished.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Well, that's that's a tough one then, you know, because
when you look at it realistically, you got to say,
that's one of the one that's up at the top.
But at the same time, you got the Super Bowl,
you got you know, when I coached in high school, man,
I didn't think anything was better than coaching a young
team with fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen year old and you
go undefeated during the season. You know, that was the
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rewarding to me. So it's just a lot of things
that have happened that is up there. But I got
to say that that award Lifetime Achievement award is one
that is special to me.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
When you think of what drew you to say, I
want to be a man of service. I want to
service my community. I want to service this world. I know,
for me, my service comes from my father. He taught
me how important it was to serve your community. Where
does your need and want to serve the community come from.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
My oldest brother. To be honest with Robert Williams man
And you know, he's eighty four years old, and even
today he calls me by twice a week.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I called him.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
If it was not for him, I can honestly say
that I don't know whether or not I'd be sitting
in his seat. I mean, he took me by his wings.
He was a professional baseball player. He hurt his arm
so he couldn't play anymore. He came back, he coached
at my high school, and every day, you know, I
followed him. I wanted to be like my oldest brother,
and that's to be a coach. And I did that well.
He went somewhere. I wanted to go with it. And
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when I got old enough to be able to participate,
he made sure I did things right and wasn't going
to stray away and get off the straight and narrow.
You know, if it was not for Rob Williams, you know,
and I'll tell you anybody is I would not be
sitting here.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
What would Robert Williams tell Doug Williams after finding out
that you won an award like this, what would you
say to you?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Well, he was disappointed that he couldn't be hit one,
but the good part about it that had it.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Online, so it nice.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Now he call and say, you know, he couldn't come,
but he would love to have been there. I think,
I really think that for him, I have made him
really proud, you know. And to me that means a
lot to me because I know when I can see
somebody who's proud of what I've done. And like I
said earlier, I don't do it for the reward. You
do it because you just want to help somebody.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And you know, I can say, we're all proud of you.
We're all so grateful for having you in the building,
for all the things you do on and off the
field for us. And another person that has really made
this community home, because this community wasn't your home at
one point, I mean not from here. But another person
who made this community home that's being honored Week one
is our guys at mass.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I'm believing, man, But you're talking about real individual.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
He most down there, if guy, and he loves it here,
and that's a good thing about it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Nineteen eighty six, I came to DC and I fell
in love with the DMV and found out they loved
me back, and that what made it so good.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
You know, That's what it's.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Like being here. Man.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I can't think of a better place other than home
to stay home. You know, DC means a lot to me,
and for what I've been able to do here in
DC and the way the people have taken to me.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Something that Santana always tells me is go where you're celebrated,
not where you're tolerated. And he truly feels that way
about the DMV. And we'll be able to celebrate him
together as he joins you and others into the Ring
of fan. Man, how great will that be? You got
to see him play on the field, you got to
see him advance as an analyst now and now he's
joining a very very special honor. Man, How happy are
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you to be able to welcome him into.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
That so deserving That's the most important thing when you
look at it. And then when you listen to him
on the podcast and everything else. Man, you say, hey, man,
you look at it. Look at his statue. Man, he's
bigger than his statue. That's the thing about it. You know,
he lives bigger than his statue. When you listen to
him and you look at him as a player and
what he's done on the football field, you don't look
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at him as a small individual. You look at him
as a big individual. That's how you got to take him.
And that's the way I look at him. I got
a lot of respect for Santana, man, and it just
makes me feel good.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
And how valuable is it to have a guy in
the building when you have a jail and lane, a
rookie right that can be following his footsteps, a guy
like Terry who is currently following in his footsteps. How
valuab was it to have a guy like Santanamo's, guys
like fresh Smooth around here, for these young guys to
be able to pick their brain at any time.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I think. I think for the young guys, it goes
a long way when they can look and see a
guy who's done. It makes them feel good, you know,
especially when you know they close to him. They can
talk to him and ask him anything that they want to.
Man that people don't understand as a professional player, it
means a lot to them when they see guys who
had played before them and did it well to be
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on the sideline watching.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Them do it. And I could tell you're probably on
a lot of things. You're proud of a lot of stuff.
You have so many great things going on, and you've
accomplished so much already. What is mister Doug, I call you,
mister Doug. It's Doug Williams. Most proud of man.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
You know what. The most proud of thing, to be
honest with you at this particular time, is to know
and to be able to watch my son become the
quarterback coach in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
To mean having my opportunity to play in the NFL,
work in the NFL, had him work here with me
for a year, and to see him now has grown
up to be a thirty two year old young man
and he's the quarterback coach in Atlanta. To me, you know,
if I don't get a chance to see no more,
I feel pretty good about that. That's the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That's so interesting because you do have so many individual accomplishments,
and you've also helped out so many people. Why is
that the thing that stands out to you and say,
you know what, that's really where my pride lies right now.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Well, that's part of my legacy. You know, I look
at it from that standpoint. Like you know, earlier this summer,
I got two sons and uh he called me and
an agent and my other son called me and they
wanted to spend a weekend with me. So we went.
We went down to DC and we spent the weekend
together and we were just sitting at the wharf and uh,
he asked me and he said, Daddy, He said, what
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would you want your legacy to be? And the only
thing I told him was, you know what, it's hard
for me to say that, but I think whatever my
legacy is going to be between when I was born
and at the end in the dash And I said,
it all depends on what you want to put in it.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
And your kids are that legacy.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You got your daughter out of USC about to have
a big season in that house. It been watching her
go into that star athlete role as well.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Well, you know, like I said, I talked about my
two sons, but ain't nothing like these six girls.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Dad.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know, I laugh about it, but you know what
one thing I have found out girls would take care
of their dad. Amen take care of their dad. All
six of them feel the same way. I think if
ever the fist fight, they'll tell me to move back, Daddy,
you're too old for this. We got this, you know,
And then talk about my daughter out of sc man.
She's so excited. I'm looking forward to watching her. I
got a senior at Saint James's Performance Academy. Now you know,
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she got a couple of scholarship office. It makes me
feel good to watch the kids do what they're doing.
I got a kid, I got daught in bat Ruins.
She coaches softball and track, and she got two kids,
and every time you look up, they going to do something.
I got a kid who's a counselor.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
It's just been great just to know that what they're
doing and watching them be proud of it. Like I
always says, eight kids, six of them has graduated college.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I got two Level two left.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You're gonna get there. Family full of greatness, and I
love hearing that about your legacy. But a big part
of your legacy as well is the Burnie and gold
and all you did, all the sacrifices you made, all
the hard times, all the stories that will probably never
hear because they're too dark and too rough to even
go back there and play it. But a big part
of your legacy again is this burnie and gold. When
you look at where we're at now, the twenty twenty
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five season, Man, we made it to the conference championship
for the first time in a long time. How are
you feeling about the outlook of this team for this year?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Well, you know, as being a part of his team,
you know, worst thing. I think for fans they can
say super Bowl and all that, but I think when
you're a part of it, you ride with what's happening.
And you know, it's too early to talk about the
Super Bowl because we hadn't played the game yet now yet,
the most important thing is playing the game and let's
see what it takes. I just feel good about this
season with the teams that we have, the people that
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we have, and assuring number five makes a difference, and
with Terry coming back and de Bo and Erics and
all those people on offense, and you look over at
the defense, what has happened now. You know, people say
we don't have a pass rush, but I think we
got enough to take care of what we have to
do because we didn't have what we didn't have last
year and we did what we did, Amen, So I
think we're a lot better than what we were last year.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I agree, and I think we all can agree on that,
mister Dog. Thank you so much for taking the time
to talk about the command is, but it's really about
you in that Lifetime Achievement award, mister Doug. Congratulations on that,
and also just thank you because I don't even know
if there's people like me in my position if it's
not for the sacrifices you made. We definitely don't get
a Jaden Daniels right with all the sacrifices you made.
So just on behalf of all of us, on the
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behalf of the community, you know what I mean. Thank you,
mister Doug. We appreciate you so much, and I know
you got a lot more accomplishments coming man, a lot
more accolades on the way.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Well, I want to say thank you and thank the
DMB amen for excepting me and making me a part
of it.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
We have show enough because all of us here are
not from here, but y'all have accepted us and made
us family. We love the DMV and we love ourselves.
So Doug Williams, Command is family, our Next Man Up,
super Bowl champion, one of the best to ever do it.
Change the game is we know it, mister Doug Williams.
Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Command is Family. We hope
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you've enjoyed episode one of this new season of Next
Man Up. We thank y'all so much for all of
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Speaker 3 (40:17):
Subscribe it so nice.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Got to hear it, right,
I found out probably draft night when he and my
lady were watching and I saw Josh got drafted. I'm like, well,
probably moving aside at this point time.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I see you getting younger.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I wish a lot of room. Can be very hostile,
very competitive, but that's not what I felt here. Like
from the first day I got here, I was comfortable.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
You know, Coach Quinn was talked about brotherhood. This is
the epitiment what brotherhood is all about.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Would be the best tackle in the league next to
you on the other side.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's like a great opportunity. When I was in town,
I wish my mom was there. Everything too.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Beans as old lineman, you probably yourself from protecting a
guy like that, you know, and not just him, but
like even the running backs, everybody, to give them a
chance to go out there and shine. That's why I
pride myself.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
In the day. This is Jaydon Danes football team. They
believe in Jaydon Danes, and I think that makes it different.
And if you believe in your quarterback, your defense gonna
play better, your offensive line, everybody else gonna play better.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Command this family. Welcome in to season three of The
Next Man Up. Y'all been rocking with U. Y'all helped
us get nominations for this and that, and we're back
with more. But this time we are in the big
Bear AI Command Center studio and we got a big
body with us. Our offensive lineman is crazy. When you
sat here last time, he was a rookie, but you're
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not a rookie no more. Welcoming in our Next man Up,
Brandon Call and my brother you feel.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It, man, appreciate you BC and VC. That's right.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But like I said, man, last time we spoke, you
had just put paying the paper. You were a rookie.
You didn't even do Next Man Up last year because
you were locked in on being a rookie. Now you're
in year two, your first full off season. What was
it Like?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It was good?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Kind of just get like three months off that's like
needed after that season. But it was good, man, Like
I kind of knew what it had to work on,
you know, like that first one where you kind of
just get until you get drafted.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Everything's going around.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You have like your Senior Bowls and your draft stuff.
You don't really know where you're supposed to go. Like
then you get here and you're just kind of following orders,
But you know, that offseason was really big, just like
recover knowing what I had to do, and then like
also how to like work on my things coming back,
like kind of what I wanted to do, planning my
life out.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You know, you kind of know what's coming at you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah. Man, you got engaged, that's right. Yeah, yeah, man,
congratulations on that. Why was that something you wanted to
take care of.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, we actually got engaged in December twenty three, like
right before, so we kind of Yeah, so I got that,
you know, kind of knocked out, not really out the way,
but you know, knocked out just because you know, very
hectic time coming along. But when I were able to
start playing, we started playing in this past offseason, so
kind of gave us a year.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
To get ourselves under our feet. She moved in with
me in November.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Congratulations, appreciate I appreciate it. So you're doing grown man.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Moves on, that's right. Got to at some point, well.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean, bro, listen, you're not a rookie no more.
Right that year flash by. Have you had a chance
to really reflect on what your rookie year was or
have you just been so low then on the next
season that you haven't really got time.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yet, Noah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know those first couple weeks, I went back home
to Germany obviously and kind of just detached from everything,
kind of reconnected with family that I wasn't really talking
to just because you know, the season gets kind of
long and you kind of try to stay in that tunnel.
But when I came back, I went right back to training,
just went back to Fortworth, and that's kind of where
I reflected on, not just like my game boss, so
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like where was at with like recovery things, connecting with
people because I'm already like a bad Texter as it is,
but you know it's important to like be there and
talk to your family, to your friends, just because you
know they're worried about you, like what happens to you
on the field obviously. So there's a lot of things
that I could reflect on, like how I live my
life on and off the field a lot better going
into the season, just being more structured, kind of knowing
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what's going like coming on just playing a lot better.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
What made that stand out to you?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Like when you sit back and look at how the
season went, what makes you say that, Okay, I need
to do these things like reconnecting with people, different things
like that. What made you feel that way?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, you know, it's just a lot of times where
people were reaching out to me first, and it's like
I was like, oh, yeah, how you doing it, Like
it's been like weeks since we talked.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It didn't really like I didn't notice it at first.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So you know, it's just important to me to have
those people around and kind of, you know, because they're
my supposed system if their friends or family, so it's
also important to kind of let them into my world
at times because everybody's excited.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
My family's really excited.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
About the opportunity I got and the blessings I've been
I've been given, so you know, it's also right for
them to be here and kind of enjoy that too.
That's kind of what the communication is about too, not
just like the materialistic stuff, but also just the moments
sharing practice, like how practice was, how games are, how
my day to day is Like they're interested in that
stuff and they they love me, so I also want
to like give back to them to be able to
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be there.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And I think I think a lot of people understand
that aspect of what this game does right, because yes,
your NFL player, Yes you're making a good amount of
money here, right, You're following your dreams, but you're also
away from your family. You're also a young man who
has family in another country and many different places. You
said your lady just moved in with you. Was there
a time during last season where it hits you and
you were like, man, I really need my community here.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Was there a time there was like I, like you said, like,
I'm from Germany obviously, so like I'm really used to
being away from family, Like I never really needed my
family around, but last year I feel like was the
first time where there's things like moving to my first
like house, like actually signing the lease for it, having
to do all these things in My fiance was moved
into November, so I was alone, and there's like a
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lot of things I questioned about. I was like, I
wish like my parents were here, or my sister. You know,
she's six years older, so she already went through a
lot of these things I'm going through just planning life.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And then my dad obviously was like an.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Athlete, he knows about certain things, so you know, having
them around would make things a lot easier.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But you know, that's why that phone.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So that's why it's important for me also just to
call them kind of get on the phone, get there,
get their opinions on things, and also just just share
some thoughts.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And I think what helps too as being in a
building where it is that family atmosphere, and that's what
you hear from every guy, even once that come in
on their first day, they say, oh, this is different,
this is a brotherhood.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
How have you been able to lean on your teammates
veterans and things like that during those times where you know,
you have questions where you're getting your first house, You've
never been a rookie before, you've never been on the
road doing this. How are you able to lean on
your teammates?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, I mean, you know that's what a lot of
guys have been saying.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I've been around me is like you want to you know,
the locker room can be very hostile, very competitive, but
that's not what I felt here.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Like from the first day I got here, I was comfortable.
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It wasn't about like, oh, they drafted this guy so
he might be playing this position.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It was just about welcome to the family.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You know, a lot of guys last year were also
coming in that off season, so obviously like we're still jelling,
which was cool, But yeah, there was never any talk
about like on the field stuff and competitiveness. Obviously that's there,
like we're all competitives, we all want to earn a
spot and play, but that was never really like a
discourse in the locker room or like in our room,
like we're always trying to make each other better. And
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for me, there's like guys like last year we had
Conrince Lucas who helped me a lot on the field,
and then Nick and Drew like they helped me a
lot with just in general things like on the field,
there's a lot of things that I was able to
get better on. And like you said, when I had
any questions about like where's this around this area? Where
can I get food spots? To like how do I
handle some financials now that I have like this set
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some you know, because they obviously have experience with that.
So I thought I could go to anybody in this
building about anything. You don't get any type information I need.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's a beautiful thing to have to especially for somebody
like you who comes in and we know this is
an athletic freak. Right here is somebody that's versatal, is
somebody that can play on any position on the offensive line.
You got to play tackle, looked great. But then you
come into this year and DT says it moving a
big guy inside man. We're going to take advantage of
all that athleticism. First things first, when did you find
out that you were going to be making a position change?
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And what was that like for you? Because you're still
very young man, that's tough to make those pivots.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, you know, I'm just grateful.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I was able to play a lot of positions through college,
so I kind of have some experience. Obviously the next
level is completely different, but you kind of already know
certain things about the position.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But y'all found out probably draft.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Night when my lady were watching and I saw Josh
got drafted. I'm like, well, probably moving aside at this point,
but you know, I like, I'm not really surprised by it,
because the first thing that I said when I got here,
just like when we talked on the film when they
signed out T is like wherever y'all need me at, Like,
I'm cool with it, And they've been very great with
communicating with me about everything, you know, giving me like
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a lot of time in the off season to train
adjusted to my position.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
You know, I was in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Working with an online guy and that gave me enough
time to work those two weeks with him at left
guard to kind of get comfortable before coming in. So
it's been really cool the way that they handled that
and also like tied me into.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
A lot of this conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
How has it been as the player being on that field,
being somewhere different? You said, you got to work, but
two weeks to seem like a lot of talk fear
for a brand new position. What has it been, like, Man,
it's been good.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know, Like like I said, I have some experience
and it was really just about getting that comfortable there.
Like I always talk about is like aiming points are different,
the way things happen, the quickness, the amount of strength
is obviously different from tackle.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Like a tackle, you dance a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You got to be patient at God is just getting
your hands on somebody and just wrestling. So it's like
getting that mindset. Obviously, change just takes you know. Camp
is like the best part of it because you put
pads on every day. You have guys like ken La,
who's one of the most frequently like huge humans I've met. Yes,
you know, and he's a hard worker, so I appreciate
stuff like that. Like we talk a lot after practice
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when we're in camp and talked about like, well I
can do better at guard versus like what I might
have done good, what he like then tries to work
off of. So like that like kind of working mindset
we have on the team is like such a huge
like benefit to wanting to get better and also just
being able to get better.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But other than that's been good.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's like kind of just like a day to day
process of like just building building blocks and it's getting
better every day.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And I'm sure it's like that for the rest of
your career, right, You're always constantly building. But one thing
that I've been very impressed with with the staff in
front office is all these young guys got old heads
and old he's in the building a world that have
found so much success around you. They bringing a god
like Laramie tunsel right, future Hall of Famer arguably man.
What has it been like being able to play alongside him,
not only learn from him talking, but just being able
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to watch how he works and how all pro gets
done when it comes to business.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, I mean, aside from just like being able to
talk to him about the game, Like my game has
changed so much just playing next to him, but not
even talking about what we should do different, but just
like playing next to him, seeing how he communicates on
the field, Like it turned my communication up by like
one thousand percent, And that's something that I want to
focus on this year, just because you know, the game
slows down a lot more in year two, so.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Like communication is a lot better.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You're able to process a lot quicker, and just him
being there like talking like that, it kind of like
pushes it wrong on the whole wole line. So everybody's
constant communicating, you know, stuff like that, and then you know,
it's like things like him being able to be so
cool and like lay back is like one of the
biggest benefits I feel like to young guys, Like I
was able to go to Auburn where he trains at
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this offseason for a week and just like hang out
with him work out, you know, just to see how
like how much you tail he has to his workouts
and how it like reconnects to the game. Like I
told him, like, I might be here like every offseason
training with you. I don't know if I have to
pay you or your guy, but like you know, it's
just like the that's like what makes him different than
anybody else is just like the stuff that he does
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that nobody sees, you know, and being able to learn
from something like that, and even for Josh like first
year and you got like the best tackle in the
league next to.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You on the other side, is like a great opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And it's a great opportunity for you as well, because
on the flip side, like you said, it's Josh Conley Jr.
A rookie offensive lineman coming in here for the first time,
just like you did last year. Man, how have you
been able to know it's tough only a year two guy? Right,
it's hard to think of yourself as a veteran, but
you're on that way. How have you been able to
help ease his transition in and kind of help him
get through some of those hurdles that you were going through.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, there's not.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
A lot that I have to like, Wow, he's that
locked in, Like yeah, it's not even just locked in
but like he came in and he was acting like
he knew what was going on. Like obviously you have
to like get used to this by in like the area,
like the environment you're in. But like first practice, he
was already knew what he had to do, plans that
he worked on with og terms of what he had
to work on, Like it was impressive how he handled it,
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and I got excited. Like the only thing that I
tell all the rookies is like when we get like
rest days, you know, you know you want to like
y'all got this trainer for the next week when we
got off, it was like, just take the rest days.
It's a long season. That's the one thing I learned
that rookie year. You went through all that stuff from
January till now. I was like, whenever you got it
off day, like do some low, low maintenance stuff. Don't
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push it because I mean, your body's going to need
that rest. But it's really just things that I learned
from that I teach him. Like everything else. He has
like great guys in the room obviously that he can
learn from a lot better than from me. But just
like normal stuff that I took as from a rookie
last year, especially in the new system that we're in
that I kind of just try to tell him and
all the other rookies what they could do better.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's crazy even talking to you right now, I can
hear and see the maturity because again, last time we
said we see each other all the time and say
what's up. The last time we sat down like this,
you were truly a rookie, hadn't even touched the field yet.
So it's really dope to see how you've progressed. And
a big part of that progression, I'm sure something you've
been helping Josh fruit as well is that camaraderie and
that chemistry between you and your starting quarterback. Right we
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didn't know what that was going to look like because
both of you guys rookies, y'all had not played on
the field yet. However, you guys had a full season together,
and what a season it was, man, a historic rookie
season for Jaden Daniels. Now, what has it been like
not only getting to play with the athlete that is
Jading Daniels, but getting to know the man that is
Jaden Dane.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we're both kind of introverted people,
so we don't share like a bunch of words. But
I mean I have all the love for Jayden, you know,
not just like what he does on the field, obviously
he's in my as the best quarterback in the league,
and then what he does, but off the field, like
the things that he does for the community, the way
that he handles the fans that come up to him.
You know, he always wants to give back, and you
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know that makes you only want to play for such
a guy even more and protect them because he goes
through the links that he goes to the to put
his best foot out there. And as the old lineman,
you pride yourself and protect a guy like that, you know,
and not just him, but like even the running backs everybody,
to give them a chance to go out there and shine.
That's why I pride myself in It's like as an
old Liman, I feel like if you're a true Allama,
you don't need all that shine like you just want
to make sure that the guys around you are able
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to perform, because every play for us is a performance,
but you need to be able to give them a chance.
You know, there's gonna be that one play for them
where they can go and show off who they are,
and we need to make sure that that plays every
play for us. So, you know, I'm just happy that
I'm able to protect a guy like him, like a
generational player, that I'm able to be there while he's here.
It's like, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And they were so happy to have somebody like you
here protecting j Dale's a Lara via Josh and all
the other guys. And before we let you go, man,
we're a week away from the start of the season.
You're moving into a new position. Man, what is Brandon
Coleman's expectations for himself coming into YouTube?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, you know, it's obviously I have like my positional
things like wanting to get better at the position every week.
You know, it's a building block throughout the year, which
I saw last year too. It's kind of like the
similar situation didn't have preseason, So it's just building off
of every week during the season communicating a lot more
and then yeah, it's really just kind of getting stronger
every week. You know, as everybody goes on, like your
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body starts to wear down, you start to get tired.
You know, it's like once a week builds up. But
one thing I have is like to keep the you know,
the foot on the pedal and kind of just keep
giving gas. And that's kind of what we also want
to do as a team. You know, you don't want
to slow down. You don't ever want to do that.
And this year, now that kind of have a year
under my belt, I know what's coming, I'm able to
prepare a lot better, kind of get surround myself with
things and people a lot better that are going to
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help me be successful this year, and us just kind
of do that this ye.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, Brandon, Man, we're so excited to see you continue
to progress. Man. What a rookie class last year was
and you were a big part of that. Man, So
we thank you so much. I don't think there was
a better person to have as our first guest season
three of Next Man. Brandon Coreen, my brother. I appreciate you, man.
Congratulations on the success. Congratulations on your future wedding that's
coming up. Appreciating yeah, brother, just appreciate your timing. Yeah,
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appreciate you for having me command this family. Our next
man up now are Inside Guard Brandon Covid. Appreciate you, brother,
Appreciate you command this family. You already know the drill.
We don't just give you all a player. We also
give you, guys, some of your favorite Washington legends. And
this one right here is a Super Bowl champ, a
Super Bowl MVP, and received an astounding honor earlier this month.
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Command his family here with one of the best to
ever do it change the game as we know it.
NFL would not be the same without this guy. Mister
Doug Williams is in the building. Man, How you doing
doing well?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yes, sir, It's always good to see you. It seem
like every time I see you getting younger, I wish but.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Got ro half though.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
We are just a week away from the twenty twenty
five NFL season. What has this off season been like
for you? With all the things you were doing in
the front office?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Now, well, you know what, it's exciting, Number one. I'm
looking forward to the season to begin. For what Adam
and Lance and coach Quinn has done with this team
along with and everybody man, and the pieces that they
have added to go with the team that we already
had in place. It's exciting, you know. It says a
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lot about them as leaders and this team as a
whole and just to be a part of man makes
me feel real good.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Mister Doug. I love your perspective because you've been around
longer than most people in this building. You have seen
so many different things happen here for Washington, and now
you're a part of this almost a resurgence of sorts. Man,
What has that been like from you and your perspective
after all you've been through with Washington.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well, let me say that I've been here going on
twelve years, and I can say the first teen you know,
I was in a position and you think that's the
way that the league is supposed to be rand. But
the last two years showed me a whole different perspective
how things are done and the guys that are coming
here in the ownership. Man, you can't say enough about
the ownership. But they have done with this team, you know,
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mister Harris and all other guys that's partner with him,
Man has coming here and let them realize that the
most important thing was this football team. And they put
their money where their mouth was and coach Quinn and
Adam and Lance and David, they did what they had
to do, along with all the scouts and everybody that's
on the road, and they put together a great team,
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great great character, a really culture team that believe in
each other. You know, coach Quinn always talk about brotherhood.
This is the epitiment what brotherhood is all about.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You get to see things done the right way. Can
you elaborate on one of those things are for you
and a front office that is the right way because
you have an issue respective because you were a player.
You were a player and now you're part of that
front office. Two very different worlds. How's it been? Well?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You know, for me, what I've seen along the way
is how they choose players per se. You know, you
had a team. You can have a team and you
just this player that player because he's this, he's dad.
Let's bring them in. But at the end of the day,
they don't mix. And what has happened here, you know,
they make sure the guys that they bring in and
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have good character, love football, that's the most important thing,
and want to be a part of it. And the
last two years that had happened here and I've seen
it happen. Man, it makes me feel good that at
this stage of my career, you know, I can see
it done right and be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And that's that's really what you are. You're not only
a part of it, you having a close up look.
You're in those draft rooms with Adam Peters, and that's
what's gotten his bread and butter. Right, everybody's saying, this
guy knows how to draft, getting to be in that
war room, getting to be a part of this decision making.
What has that been like for you and how has
it been watching a guy like Adam Peters really get
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into his own the first two years of the gym.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, just listening to and listening and talking about the
players along with all the coaches that come in there
and talk about the players, and whatever two bits that
you have, you can add it to it. But at
the end of the day when they make a decision,
it's going to be mostly Adam and Dan gonna come
up with a decision that after they listen to everybody.
That's the good thing about Adam, the fact that he
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don't mind listening to you. And that's what has happened
around here. And if you look around these coaches, man,
they all feel like they're part of it. And I
think that makes it difference.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
When you get to evaluate right, because I know you're
watching that film. I know you want to give as
good advice as possible. So when you're watching these quarterbacks,
it's a different league, different college football than it was
when you play collegeotball, different NFL than it was. What
has it been like breaking down quarterbacks because the game
has changed so much.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, it's not the easiest thing in the world because
you got to look at so many things. You know,
you look at them from behind, from the end zone,
copy and you watch the quarterback, but see what he's watching,
how he moved his feet, how he delivered the football,
and cool up under pressure you got to have. You
got to have some coolness up under pressure man, just
like you. And then you know, when you look at it,
you got to, you know, put your own spin on it.
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Everybody gonna have a different opinion of whoever they looking
at it, whoever they're grading. But you got to stand
on your opinion when you see something. You got to
this how I saw it, and listen to other people
and see how they see it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
But it's good when you're sitting in that room and
you get what you think what he is, and you
listen to other people and they almost kind of like
the same thing. Make you feel good because you realize
you're not as worse as you think you are.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You like, I still got it. I can still do
this thing. Mister Doug. When you were in the room
and you got to see a guy like Jaden Daniels
get drafted, I'm sure everybody in that room was on
the same record with Jaden Daniels. You got to see
him get drafted. You're a big part of his rookie
year and that story of you being able to help
mentor him as you go into year two for Jaden
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Daniels his sophomore year, what have you seen from the
young man as you've been able to help him grow?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Nothing but improvement. You know you think about last year,
but just watching him, man, that would make us feel
so good. It make me feel good watching see how
he get along with all the other players and how
the other players come to him and realize that this
is his football team at the end of the day,
this is Jayden Danes football team. And that's not all
bad because they believe in Jaydon Daniel and I think
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that makes it different. And if you believe in your
quarter back, your defense, gonna play better, your offensive line,
everybody else gonna play better. And just watching Jaden throw
the football, Howie Mineu was around the other guys. I
watched him today and him coming off the field, we
walked down the whole sideline and shook everybody hand that
was on offense. That says a lot about who he
really is.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And doing the right things right, doing those little things
at such a young age. He hasn't even hit year
two yet. Have you seen anything like a Jaden Daniels before,
Because you've played there, you know what it's like. You
know the pressure that's on a franchise quarterback. Have you
seen anything like Jenny and Dais before?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I think was what it really has helped Jaden is
the fact that he stayed in college this whole turn.
You know, had an opportunity to play a lot of football,
see a lot of things. You know, guy won the Heisman,
he won everywhere he's being He won as a freshman,
he won as a senior. And I think it helped
him when he walked into here. It was just a
matter of him getting in here and making the adjustments, yes,
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of what the pro game was all about. And that
was easy because Bobby Wagner and Zach and those guys
made it easy for him to just relax and play football.
And last year, you know he did that. You know,
you didn't see him rattle. You didn't see him get rattled.
He wasn't in a rush. He played Jayden Ding's game
and Cliff Cliff did a great job with him, and
(23:15):
it gave him things that he can handle. And now
is in the second year, and I think he can
handle anything because the way he handles stuff and he's
always cool of underpressure.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You mentioned Jackers and Bobby Wagner. Those are possibly two
future Hall of Famers, right, and you're talking about them.
Looking at Jaden a rookie as a leader, you've been
a quarterback before, you've been in that huddle. Can you
elaborate how tough that is to be able to gain
respect from your entire team, especially as a.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Rookie, well, especially at a young age your first year.
You know, I remember when I was in Tampa, and
you know, being a rookie quarterback, you just you have
to look around to see who's watching you, who gonna
patch you on the back, and everything like that. And
I think during my time they wanted to wait and see.
You know, it's one of those situations here, and you
know they grab it to him right away because they
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realized they had something specially in Jaydon. And you know,
Jaydon had done it well in college and they expect
him to do the same thing when he got here.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And for any quarterback going into year or two, right,
you're the standard for quarterbacks, right, Like it's a person
like you is somebody they would want to ask, Hey,
what do I do to prepare for year two? What
do I do to find success in year two? It's
not just for Jaden but any quarterback asking what would
be your advice to get past that rookie year and
get over what they call that sophomore slump.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, you know, I hear people talk about the sophomore slump. Man,
It's not about the sophomore slump. It's about the individual.
And I think what Jayden has done and what he
do now is doing what he's always done, and that's prepared.
The most important thing is preparing for the game and
having a good team around you, which I think he
does now. And he don't come in here, know later
than he did last year. Yeah, he literally, you know,
(24:50):
and I think that in itself makes a difference because
he comes in here to prepare for the game, and
I think you're not going to catch Jayden off guard
saying he's not ready to play this game. And a
lot of the things don't worry him. You know, you
get a lot of young quarterbacks they worried about branding themselves. Now,
one time I heard Jane and Dane worried about branding himself.
At the end of the day, his plate on brand him.
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I think that's the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I think it's interesting that, like you mentioned these things,
but this isn't something that like you're teaching gim or
other people are teaching them. This seems to be a
nate for Jaden. Now there's to be something that like
his family raised him to be. What you think that's true?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Well, I think I think the biggest thing that Jacon
got gun for MA also is the fact that his mom.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Is always with and we're so lucky to have her.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Oh my god, man. You know, I had a chance
to talk to Jaden about a week or so ago,
and we sitting there, you know, and we talked about
some things, and I say, hey, man, your mom has
been a blessing to you, and she has been. You're
talking about a young man who is a grown man
who really loves his mom and he respects everything she does,
and she respects everything he does. And I think at
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the end of the day, that's what it's all about.
You know, you hear all these people out there on
social media, you know, trying to make certain things about
his mom. Right hey, man, that's his mom and he
loves his mom, and I'm for that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And you've been in positions of Jayden Daniels. I'm sure
you've been in this farm, even me and my job.
Right well, I wish my mom was right outside this
door right now because I want that support.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
When I was in town, I wish my mom was
there every day too.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
The Red Beans.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You don't say it. There's an importance there. And I
think that it's easy to judge Jaden and Daniels because
we haven't seen necessarily that before from a rookie quarterback.
But you've played the game. You're somebody that found success
at every single level. Can you speak to the importance
on why having that community there, having somebody like your mother,
a family member, a trusted person during all this madness
(26:33):
is so valuable.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Well, you know, we don't know what happened in Jade
and Daniel's mind when he goes home. I'm sure there's
a lot of things on his mind. Sure, I'm sure
he got some people that he can call is his
mom or dad, whoever and talk about certain things, you know.
And for me and him, you know, we're going to
talk about so much because in here, you know, I
don't want to tell him anything about it really playing
the game because he got coaches. He got about three
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coaches in his room that played the position of quarterback,
and he don't need another one job with Jayden is
just to keep it on the straightened error, you know,
just talk about other things off the field and things
like that. That's what him and I do more than anything,
because I think as a player, everything that I would
lack for him to do, he's doing it. So at
the end of the days, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
It that's a beautiful problem to have, right Yeah. But
I love hearing that because those are the conversations right
there outside of football where you get to really know
who the man is, what the man is about. So
when you've had those conversations with Jayden, and I see
you smiling right now. I'm sure it'll hit you with
some things and you're just like, man, this kid's wise
around as just as that. It is getting to learn
and meet the man that is Jaden Daniels outside the field.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Well, it's important, you know, think about it. And when
we drafted Jayden, you know Adam who came to me
and said, why do you an't tell me you knew Jaden.
I've been knowing Jayden since twenty eighteen, number one, and
you know I always kept up with it, man, and
that was important. And you know my conversation with him
today is no different than it was then. Man, it's
about him the individual, the young man, and just seeing
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him go on the straight now, to me, that makes
me feel good because at the end of the day, man,
that's what it's all about. Playing that position that he playing.
He in a position that takes so much, so much
time and effort to play that position. Not the talent
he got talent, but it takes a whole lot of
other things that goes into it. And you just try
to keep his mind straight every morning. You know, when
I see him the first time I asked him and
(28:19):
say you all right, man, he said, yeah, you know.
And if you see me down the hall, he said, Dougie,
you know, and we wave at each other. And that's
the way it is.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And just having you in this building is so valuable
for so many reasons. You do so much for these players,
but you also do a lot for the world. You
do a lot for the community. I have these cards here.
People know that they I don't do cards, but I
had to do cards secause I want to make sure
I read this right. The President's Lifetime Achievement Award. The
award is the highest civilian honor in America for service
(28:48):
and volunteerisms. And you wore awarded that award earlier this
month out at Howard. How special was it to be
honored for not the work that you do on the field,
because you get that level all the time, but to
be for just being a great human.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
The crazy thing about that that award was actually on
my birthday. It's August the name yeah, because I mean,
I didn't say it, you know. And this has been
like about it was about five or six months ago
when they first called and they told me when the
award was going to be presented. I remember telling my wife,
I said, man, that's my birthday. You know, usually we
got something playing for my birthday, But a day like that,
(29:25):
you know, it was all about accepting the award and
we was able to go to dinner that night.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
But when you do certain things a lot of time,
it ain't about getting rewarded for it. It's about doing
what you think is right. And everything I've done in
my life, even as a player and after the player,
it ain't for the rewards. It ain't for money. It's
because I want to see somebody else, because I remember,
you know, when I was younger, I had somebody pushing me.
I had been towards I had people telling me what
I can do and what I shouldn't do, And to me,
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that was the best thing that happened to me and
for me doing the things that I do today, I'm
just trying to help people just to get along and
do the right thing and make sure that they're successful.
I think that's that's what it's that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's what it's all about. But I love how humble
you are about it, because this said here. When I
was doing the research over four thousand hours of service
minimum to even be considered for an award like this,
and you got this recognition. I think it's very interesting
to get the recognition in the DMV, a place where
you've received a lot of different accolading recognition. You've got
the Super Bowls, you got the Super Bowl MVP. Then
(30:25):
you get a recognition like this, which I feel like
maybe just as special or maybe even more special. Where
does this accoladeing recognition rank in all the things Doug
Williams has accomplished.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Well, that's that's a tough one then, you know, because
when you look at it realistically, you got to say,
that's one of the one that's up at the top.
But at the same time, you got the Super Bowl,
you got you know, when I coached in high school, man,
I didn't think anything was better than coaching a young
team with fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen year old and you
go undefeated during the season. You know, that was the
(30:57):
rewarding to me. So it's just a lot of things
that have happened that is up there. But I got
to say that that award Lifetime Achievement award is one
that is special to me.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
When you think of what drew you to say, I
want to be a man of service. I want to
service my community. I want to service this world. I know,
for me, my service comes from my father. He taught
me how important it was to serve your community. Where
does your need and want to serve the community come from.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
My oldest brother. To be honest with Robert Williams man
And you know, he's eighty four years old, and even
today he calls me by twice a week.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I called him.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
If it was not for him, I can honestly say
that I don't know whether or not I'd be sitting
in his seat. I mean, he took me by his wings.
He was a professional baseball player. He hurt his arm
so he couldn't play anymore. He came back, he coached
at my high school, and every day, you know, I
followed him. I wanted to be like my oldest brother,
and that's to be a coach. And I did that well.
He went somewhere. I wanted to go with it. And
(31:53):
when I got old enough to be able to participate,
he made sure I did things right and wasn't going
to stray away and get off the straight and narrow.
You know, if it was not for Rob Williams, you know,
and I'll tell you anybody is I would not be
sitting here.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
What would Robert Williams tell Doug Williams after finding out
that you won an award like this, what would you
say to you?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Well, he was disappointed that he couldn't be hit one,
but the good part about it that had it.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Online, so it nice.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Now he call and say, you know, he couldn't come,
but he would love to have been there. I think,
I really think that for him, I have made him
really proud, you know. And to me that means a
lot to me because I know when I can see
somebody who's proud of what I've done. And like I
said earlier, I don't do it for the reward. You
do it because you just want to help somebody.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And you know, I can say, we're all proud of you.
We're all so grateful for having you in the building,
for all the things you do on and off the
field for us. And another person that has really made
this community home, because this community wasn't your home at
one point, I mean not from here. But another person
who made this community home that's being honored Week one
is our guys at mass.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I'm believing, man, But you're talking about real individual.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
He most down there, if guy, and he loves it here,
and that's a good thing about it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Nineteen eighty six, I came to DC and I fell
in love with the DMV and found out they loved
me back, and that what made it so good.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
You know, That's what it's.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Like being here. Man.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I can't think of a better place other than home
to stay home. You know, DC means a lot to me,
and for what I've been able to do here in
DC and the way the people have taken to me.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Something that Santana always tells me is go where you're celebrated,
not where you're tolerated. And he truly feels that way
about the DMV. And we'll be able to celebrate him
together as he joins you and others into the Ring
of fan. Man, how great will that be? You got
to see him play on the field, you got to
see him advance as an analyst now and now he's
joining a very very special honor. Man, How happy are
(33:50):
you to be able to welcome him into.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
That so deserving That's the most important thing when you
look at it. And then when you listen to him
on the podcast and everything else. Man, you say, hey, man,
you look at it. Look at his statue. Man, he's
bigger than his statue. That's the thing about it. You know,
he lives bigger than his statue. When you listen to
him and you look at him as a player and
what he's done on the football field, you don't look
(34:13):
at him as a small individual. You look at him
as a big individual. That's how you got to take him.
And that's the way I look at him. I got
a lot of respect for Santana, man, and it just
makes me feel good.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
And how valuable is it to have a guy in
the building when you have a jail and lane, a
rookie right that can be following his footsteps, a guy
like Terry who is currently following in his footsteps. How
valuab was it to have a guy like Santanamo's, guys
like fresh Smooth around here, for these young guys to
be able to pick their brain at any time.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I think. I think for the young guys, it goes
a long way when they can look and see a
guy who's done. It makes them feel good, you know,
especially when you know they close to him. They can
talk to him and ask him anything that they want to.
Man that people don't understand as a professional player, it
means a lot to them when they see guys who
had played before them and did it well to be
(35:00):
on the sideline watching.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Them do it. And I could tell you're probably on
a lot of things. You're proud of a lot of stuff.
You have so many great things going on, and you've
accomplished so much already. What is mister Doug, I call you,
mister Doug. It's Doug Williams. Most proud of man.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
You know what. The most proud of thing, to be
honest with you at this particular time, is to know
and to be able to watch my son become the
quarterback coach in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
To mean having my opportunity to play in the NFL,
work in the NFL, had him work here with me
for a year, and to see him now has grown
up to be a thirty two year old young man
and he's the quarterback coach in Atlanta. To me, you know,
if I don't get a chance to see no more,
I feel pretty good about that. That's the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That's so interesting because you do have so many individual accomplishments,
and you've also helped out so many people. Why is
that the thing that stands out to you and say,
you know what, that's really where my pride lies right now.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Well, that's part of my legacy. You know, I look
at it from that standpoint. Like you know, earlier this summer,
I got two sons and uh he called me and
an agent and my other son called me and they
wanted to spend a weekend with me. So we went.
We went down to DC and we spent the weekend
together and we were just sitting at the wharf and uh,
he asked me and he said, Daddy, He said, what
(36:16):
would you want your legacy to be? And the only
thing I told him was, you know what, it's hard
for me to say that, but I think whatever my
legacy is going to be between when I was born
and at the end in the dash And I said,
it all depends on what you want to put in it.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
And your kids are that legacy.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You got your daughter out of USC about to have
a big season in that house. It been watching her
go into that star athlete role as well.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Well, you know, like I said, I talked about my
two sons, but ain't nothing like these six girls.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Dad.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know, I laugh about it, but you know what
one thing I have found out girls would take care
of their dad. Amen take care of their dad. All
six of them feel the same way. I think if
ever the fist fight, they'll tell me to move back, Daddy,
you're too old for this. We got this, you know,
And then talk about my daughter out of sc man.
She's so excited. I'm looking forward to watching her. I
got a senior at Saint James's Performance Academy. Now you know,
(37:12):
she got a couple of scholarship office. It makes me
feel good to watch the kids do what they're doing.
I got a kid, I got daught in bat Ruins.
She coaches softball and track, and she got two kids,
and every time you look up, they going to do something.
I got a kid who's a counselor.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
It's just been great just to know that what they're
doing and watching them be proud of it. Like I
always says, eight kids, six of them has graduated college.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I got two Level two left.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You're gonna get there. Family full of greatness, and I
love hearing that about your legacy. But a big part
of your legacy as well is the Burnie and gold
and all you did, all the sacrifices you made, all
the hard times, all the stories that will probably never
hear because they're too dark and too rough to even
go back there and play it. But a big part
of your legacy again is this burnie and gold. When
you look at where we're at now, the twenty twenty
(37:58):
five season, Man, we made it to the conference championship
for the first time in a long time. How are
you feeling about the outlook of this team for this year?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Well, you know, as being a part of his team,
you know, worst thing. I think for fans they can
say super Bowl and all that, but I think when
you're a part of it, you ride with what's happening.
And you know, it's too early to talk about the
Super Bowl because we hadn't played the game yet now yet,
the most important thing is playing the game and let's
see what it takes. I just feel good about this
season with the teams that we have, the people that
(38:27):
we have, and assuring number five makes a difference, and
with Terry coming back and de Bo and Erics and
all those people on offense, and you look over at
the defense, what has happened now. You know, people say
we don't have a pass rush, but I think we
got enough to take care of what we have to
do because we didn't have what we didn't have last
year and we did what we did, Amen, So I
think we're a lot better than what we were last year.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I agree, and I think we all can agree on that,
mister Dog. Thank you so much for taking the time
to talk about the command is, but it's really about
you in that Lifetime Achievement award, mister Doug. Congratulations on that,
and also just thank you because I don't even know
if there's people like me in my position if it's
not for the sacrifices you made. We definitely don't get
a Jaden Daniels right with all the sacrifices you made.
So just on behalf of all of us, on the
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behalf of the community, you know what I mean. Thank you,
mister Doug. We appreciate you so much, and I know
you got a lot more accomplishments coming man, a lot
more accolades on the way.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Well, I want to say thank you and thank the
DMB amen for excepting me and making me a part
of it.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
We have show enough because all of us here are
not from here, but y'all have accepted us and made
us family. We love the DMV and we love ourselves.
So Doug Williams, Command is family, our Next Man Up,
super Bowl champion, one of the best to ever do it.
Change the game is we know it, mister Doug Williams.
Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Command is Family. We hope
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you've enjoyed episode one of this new season of Next
Man Up. We thank y'all so much for all of
y'all love and support. Because of y'all, we were able
to get nominated for not one, but two People's Choice
Awards for the Podcast Awards, Best Male Hosted and Best
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have it yet, make sure you subscribe, make sure you download,
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Speaker 3 (40:17):
Subscribe it so nice.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Got to hear it, right,
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