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December 25, 2025 45 mins

Merry Christmas from the Player’s Club! London, Santana, and Shawn get you ready for the Commanders Christmas Day matchup with the Cowboys. Then, the crew talks some of their favorite memories playing against Dallas. And then, wide receiver Treylon Burks joins the show!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back into the players club.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are your whole Ti'm London Fletch aka Big Fletch
here with Santana moss Ak Santana Claus holiday.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Season and we got Shot Springs aka Blue Food.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
We're wishing you all are happy holidays. All right, Santana
Shan teller folks what they could expect from today's episode.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Well, today, man, we're gonna have a little holiday fun
and talking some about favorite holiday traditions.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
And then we're gonna talk about you know, the Dallas
Cowboys and our favorite matchups.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
And next we're gonna have our guy, none other than
tray Lion Burke sit down with us.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
All Right, fellas, this time to get this show started. Man,
Holiday season, Christmas is here. This this ship has flown by.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Man. I was just about to say that.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Bro, although this football season has been long, it's been alone,
it's called the last twelve weeks season. But I mean
this year in general has flown by. We're here at
the holiday season, that Christmas time, Tad. I know you
love the holiday Christmas. You've shared about how special this
is for you guys. Man, Let's let's talk about it. Man,

(01:13):
what do y'all love about the holiday season.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I don't know Christmas always been I guess I don't
know what kid don't like Christmas. But for me, man,
I think that was just it's one of them things. Man,
Like I look forward to the season. It feels like
the season always brought something different. Like I don't care
what's going on in life throughout the year, but it's
something about the Christmas time, the holidays, everybody seems to

(01:35):
be nicey, nice sir. Everybody seems to have something, you know,
to look forward to just for just about giving gifts
and spreading joy. So I think, growing up, man, that's
always I always look forward to that, to that time
of year. And when I I kind of pictured myself
of being that guy. I used to have an aunt
that always brought stuff for me, and I'm like, damn this,

(01:58):
she's topping my parents when it comes to my gifts.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
She wanted to be her.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Not get older, man, I'm going to be the one
that's giving on all the cool FLA gifts.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's what's up. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Did you ever get a chance to bless her?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
If I said you get a bless you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Saying, man. For me football, it's football.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know we're gonna talk about it in the show.
But man, I just this is all you know. I
would in during the school year, I'd be in my
mom down in Maryland. I be in Maryland, right and
then on holidays, I'll be down to Dallas going to
the games in the locker room with my dad, and
he would give me all the gifts. And I like,
I like being a kid with the Cowboys because you know,
they had money. I got all the good gifts. I

(02:43):
got all the good gifts. They give me a little money,
your ten dollars walking around the locker lock like my
hand out, get a little money in my pocket. But
but it was really about you know, my grandmom, myself
and all my cousins would all get down the dollars
or you know, or we you know. At times you
came up to Washington because a lot of my family's
from Williamsburg. So man, I just love getting together with

(03:05):
all the family. Man talking football.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Man, It's funny you just mentioned being in the locker
room at h at a young age. So when I
was with the Rams, Ricky pro some of the some
of the older players who have played for one long time.
They had young kids that would be in the locker
room and one guy that I remember vividly was Ricky Pro.

(03:28):
Austin's uh, Austin would be in there all the time.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And he used to call me dot com so and
and Saint Louis. That's what they called me. They called
me dot com that and I can remember he like
four or five like dot com dot com. Fast forward
to today, Austin Pro played at Carolina, had a little

(03:54):
stint with the NFL.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Now he's a he's a wide receiver coach.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
At wind Gate and and in North Carolina, right outside
of Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
We communicate.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I've actually recommended the kids to Austin for scholarships.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
He's signed some of my.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Kids and some of my kids.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Who do you remember, just as in that locker room,
who are some of the guys that you remember?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Man Everson walls with you guys. It was like one
of my dad's best friend, guy named Dennis Thurman who
played in the league. One of my dad's closest friends
when he was a rookie and I used to love
was a guy named Roger star Back. Everybody know Roger
and Danny white and oh, I tell you man. The
one I remember and he was just crazy was Drew Pearson.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's crazy. These were all like my uncles. Tony Door
set so Tony Door said it was my sister's godfather.
And my dad was like like best best friends, right
and Fred like me, and Fred like me and Fred
right and uh so I would go over there and
t and them and then you know cowboys, man, they
had and our gifts. Back of the that I go home,

(05:03):
but I go home back to d c Over in
PG County. Hell. I had to fight for the first
three weeks. Take my stuff. The thing I remember about
Christmas and.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I I always would get every year, I would get
a racetrack. Every year, get a racetrack. But the problem is,
you know them tracks, man, you lose one of the one.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Of the track.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Just what to say?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Every year?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Jump?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, I would get a racetrack. And then one year
my dad bought me the train track.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
You could tell me nothing, Tell me nothing, dude, you're
gonna train track.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
You was nice. You know what it was for me?
Electric footballing especially you put a little penny in the dude.
I love that electric football man.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Hey, Tyner, you are on The Players Club with Josh Connolly.
You said, uh, you're a big movie fan. Yeah, what
are some of your favorite Christmas movies? Holiday movies? That's
a good one, man. It's funny.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
What is crazy is, as much as people might think
this is odd, I love Home Alone bro around the holidays,
I wouldn't watch Home Alone until it's holiday season and
I would go and watch everyone. And it's so crazy
because it's funny because my youngest daughter, she has the
same kind of vibe where she likes to go back

(06:28):
and watch the same So she likes The Grinch, which
I like that one. Also, I like the one with
Jim Carrey, and then I like the actual or the
animated one that they came out with. I think I'm
not sure if it was just recently, like probably like
a few years ago, but it's dope too. But she
would watch that and Home Alone all the time too,
so we always get on them by that. Yeah. But
something about that Home Alone man, it's just Kevin Man.

(06:49):
He was he was he was raising it. I mean
it's funny because it's like odd that you lead this
kid home and then he does all that by himself,
like like like the damn Burglars. Man, I bet they
looking like Man, why the head we picked this house
while we picked this dude. But that was one of
my favorite. Man. I can't even think of another Christmas
movie because I didn't start watching them until I got older,

(07:12):
and and it was just like that one stuck out
to me.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
You are favorite foods man during the holiday season. Man,
that's what desserts whatever.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
You know for me. My grandma used to have these,
like mints and stuff. I used to be stealing her,
you know, and at the time, you know, it's different colors,
all the different hard candy. Man.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know the hard candy.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
But you ain't care. You know, you have to try
and steal it before your cousins. Man.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know what I love.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
So I'm a big cookie guy. Christmas cookies, the holiday cookies.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Talking about that little the little one. It's like a
blue or.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Can type of because sometimes you were disappoints. This is
something that's really disappointing. You can get some other ones
that's like, ye ain't it? These these are not it? Like,
I'm a big cookie guy. I know I can't go wrong. Yeah,
getting Camra Chris.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Used to I used to I used to always look
forward to, like going to someone house like probably my
relative grandmother, anybody, and they have one and I go
in there and like pick through the cookies, like to
see which one of them want?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You know what I'm saying. Last thing on this man.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
If we were doing the secret signing with our analysts, Yeah, Tad,
who all of us? Who would y'all want to be
y'all secret sating?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
First?

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Go ahead from Okay, let me see secret siner. Uh
damn sure? Don't want Sean or Fred?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
You want me? I would pick.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You want me?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
For sure?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't want Logan. The logan chief is here. I say,
I say, I say, I say London, I say London
or be missed. Yeah, I'm a says be Missed gonna
cook me something good?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Or he gonna he's.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Gonna find a nice gilt. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Santana.
I know he's gonna give me something.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Clock's gonna drop some nfe something. I would say, I'm
definitely not Fred.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Fred is known for doing you a gag. Yeah said
he already.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Talked about did you get card? He'll get your card
with two dollars on right, Louise it from to call.
But you're right, like fifteen hundred friends. Man, he long
as like you said, he ain't gonna put a whole
lot of thought in him. I would say definitely santanic
because you know he's into that and be mitched and

(09:40):
then you because Blue got things Blue.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Blue likes high quality things.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
He likes drop something.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Who likes high quality things. So he's like, Man, I'm
gonna come.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I'm a blessed Yeah, yeah, I got.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
I'm going with Blue. Yeah, yeah, you tell had dropped
some products in the store I thought about, Yeah, I'm
oh so all right, it's trying to transition.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Man.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
The fast Lane fast Lane presented by Eastern Automotive Group,
any car anyway for everyone since nineteen eighty eight. All Right, fellas,
let's talk about these cowboys in this offense. They got
this high powered offense. Well, the one thing that's crazy
about it, man, coming into this game, you know, will
these guys be motivated to even play? You know what

(10:31):
I mean? Like I mean, we always talk about the
whole pride thing, you know, talk about just you know,
keeping your job and making sure you go out there
and play for your livelihood. So they're gonna play they're
gonna go out there and play and it's Christmas, and
this offense is one of those offenses.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
But you know, you say to yourself, the Cowboys had
so many high hopes of trying to see the postseason.
What you would thought, man, with the season that they
was having, it would have been a you know, a
layup from man. But it's you know, the way that
we've been talking about this season for us, it's been
going like the same for everybody else. What do you
guys expected from this offense?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Man?

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Come Christmas?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I expect them to be like they've been all year long.
I mean, they have so many weapons at the office
position that he's playing at extreme like that level side.
I think if their record was better, he would be
in the MVP. The two receivers they have, they have
two number one guys, like true, two number one guys.

(11:27):
And the crazy thing is they found a way to
make both of these guys happy.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
You know, usually you're.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Gonna have one of the guys not happy in the game.
But George Pickens, he's he's playing out other worldly.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
He about to get paid and then uh, because I'm
not sure if he gets paid, but I still got
some gonna pay him. You know.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
There's some little talking.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
You like, you like, you like some of the love Pickons.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I love Pickings. But a lot of people talking about
this attitude.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
But that's what they's what they are. They try to
paint the picture off of one game or two games.
I got still a phenomenal player.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
So what you have to do is listen to what
Jerry Jones says. Stephen Jones and the head coach Shottenheimer,
they've talked about George Pickens after you know he was
They were talking about this effort.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Jerry Jones like, man, I love him.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
He is so competitive. He's fitting great here shotting him
in the same thing. So they they have no problem
with Pickings.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Just out of the day. He just went off.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
He just going out last again, So they don't They're
gonna tag him and then look to get a long
term deal.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Dumb.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
They got tight end. Javonte Williams. That running back man,
he's he's running hard. So they gonna do what they do.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Offense, they have powered and I think one of the
things that stands out to me is dak you know,
and and that's where it starts. And it's crazy because
I've been a big fan of that, just like I was.
I say it's a mean times on these shows.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I was.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I felt the same way about Romo, Like the league
as a whole, don't give them all the credit because
of the star. So if they're not winning at a
high level, off they're not making you know, winning playoff
games at a high level, they find a reason or
find a way to bash them, rightfully, so you know
what I'm saying. But when you as a receiver, I
would have loved to keep catching passes from both of

(13:18):
those guys. And right now we're talking about that man
that has been playing phenomenal man, I mean, why do you.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Think why you think you think it's a star for that,
because that's numbers since she's been leg.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
It's all about the star. Like if the Cowboys isn't
in conditions of going to the postseason or winning the
postseason game, and then some of this falls in their
their own lap too when it comes to just their
performances when they get there. You know, like like see
a year ago or two years ago whatever it was
that saw Green Bay and Green Bay demolished them and
it was all on him. He threw interception out the interception,

(13:49):
out the interception. But I also think sometime when I'm
watching them games, you're trying to force the issue with
a guy that you didn't have to. You didn't make
it this way by by throwing the ball up and
down the field. You had a particular you know, you
had you had, you had a run game.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
You think some of its the blame is unrightfully so
on him.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
I think some of the blame you know, you know,
falls and left because of him going out there, having
them kind of games and the performances. But I also
believe that due to the fact that they're the Cowboys,
they expect to see this high fly, high flying, high
foul offense or team as a whole. And if Dak
don't show up because he's the quarterback, and it's one

(14:29):
thing not showing up, it's another thing as putting your
team in a situation where you're throwing the picks you
don't want making the miscues, you know what I'm saying.
So some of it fits, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
The crazy thing, man, you look at the league in
general right now, there's there are only three quarterbacks with
over four thousand yards passing.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Wow, that Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Right, that's it the only three right now that currently
has over four thousand yards, but with Dak definitely the
cowboy they hate and I don't know, but can't we
go back to that point though?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
But when you look at that, Matthew Stafford and Detroit,
yeah they they they on the cusp for making the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Stafford Stafford is in.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
No Jake offers on the cush He's gonna win the
m v P. Matthew Stafford, Oh yeah, it could be
him and the boy he got forty he got They
a lot of people have got forty the quarterback from
the Patriot because of the record obviously, But I was

(15:36):
just about to I want to I want to keep
on on that. So is that the will that be
the women winning formally? Because it seems like the teams
who are really winning don't take the pressure off the
quarterback and they're running the ball and they're having a
successful run Seattle they are now actually Sam Darno on
to a lot the rams they they did it with basically,

(15:56):
like you said, it was the McCaffrey show. So football.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Sean McVay is a master master for play caller he pooking.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
The court killing then Adams he leaves the league in touchdown.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
He had like fourteen teams.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I know, but you think Dak. Tanner said, one thing
I thought was important. I did any think about it?
He said, when Dak got into the playoffs a couple
of times, rightfully show there was a lot of pressure
on him to throw the ball, and he got so
that was a.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Bad game player.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
But also that defense didn't do he ran that ball
all yeah, yeah, I get so.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
But but Dallas went and't losing this year a lot
of times it's because we were throwing the ball.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
That defense, that defense ain't ain't done.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Man, that's that defense. They don't have to they don't
have the horses. But Dak, you're gonna have an offense.
You're gonna have a chance because think about this blue
us as a defense, we get we see all these weapons.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
We can't lock in on just one guy.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
If we say, hey, we're gonna play cover to keep
everything here from forcing a run. Williams is he's running
that runs, been running the ball. So okay, now let's
add more resources to stop the run. Now you got pickings,
and you got you got and you have a tight
end that can get it done. So their offense, their

(17:22):
office is set, and their yard it's prolific.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Man them, Dude's gonna be here and that too. He
like like the young Dack would run more. Yes, you
know since the injury, he hasn't, but he don't have
to because he understands what he has and he's getting
the ball out you know, at the right time.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Escape.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, he's still can he Those are very very catchable ball,
you know, how to escape danger he gets outside.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Look at this.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
They got two thousand yard receivers and they got a
eleven hundred yard rusher.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, so that's that's what I was about to say
that in the league and right now in rushing, like
the triple.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Is the defense is fourth and and giving up?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Where's Dallas ranked the lead for is running the bar
in the ball?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I don't know, but but why lenn and check that out? Man?
In order to stop these guys, man, to your your point,
the best way is probably to keep that offense off
the field. Oh, you got to be able to figure
out how to sustain because I mean, I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Your best your best defense got to be a good
offense and that's what we have to do. But like
you said, that's what we're gonna need and.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
As you know, we can run the ball. Yeah, I
think we stay consistent, especially with Marcus House. Now we
have to go in there with the idea like we
have to.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
You saw that game. You saw the game go ahead.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
They're seventeenth in rushing okay, the middle of the road.
The average yards per carry, they're more like they probably
like ten to eleven.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Well, we saw that dude once he running that ball
and the way he ran against us, he get things going.
That offense is just like a man. It's like it's
like a machine, bro. Like they going up and down
the field with no pressure. And the thing is too.
If you don't get after that, it's a wrap, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
We're not getting we're not getting him over him off aspart.
It's a wrap.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
He sees to feel like better than anybody right now.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
We can't give as much time we gave feeling. Yeah,
Dallas receiving corps better than the Phillis. Let me ask
you that you think I think I think Dallas if
I had to look at it, especially the way they
move a CD because they put CD inside, I think
that their top two receiving corps is easy.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
It's easy. It's easy, like.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
You didn't have to question yourself better better, Who's who's number?
Who won the number two? The top two? Number number
one could possibly be to Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Cincinnati got a chance, had a chance, it has a chance.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Let me give me, let me give your argument. Though,
I think justin Jefferson, the goodest, uh goodest pickings is
goodest CD lambs justice.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
We're talking about individual talking about individuals.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
You gotta throw the receive, the tight end and the
tight end. So the tight end, but the boy from solid.
But uh, but you're right. You spend too much time
think they're number one in the league by far.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
How you said so so being there, we already established
that you you be in defensive bag.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Game plan. We got to go into the game with
the boys down.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
I'm gonna be honest with you. Might be one of
those games where people not traditionals. I'm gonna sit back
and let them go. I'm gonna make them an comfortable
one and just make him beat us. I'm gonna have
to get after him. I literally might have to get
after hit that a couple of times. I don't like
we dropped back against Phillip. We were dropping eight and
they were just picking the spart no pressure. I'd rather
corner going in the game like I'm okay, I'm okay.

(21:03):
If I see Lennon in them shooting that gap and
I know that that ball gotta come out, I can
live with that. I can. I don't want to sit
back there and let him know. You better be at
a tackle too. That's that's thing, like, that's that's better tackle.
But I can live with that versus them then just
picking apart. I hate that, man.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, you gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
When I look at it from a defensive play calling standpoint,
you you can't get him a steady dose, not anything.
You're gonna have to make some things up. So but
you can't be patient and so so here's how I
would look at him, just knowing you got these two
receivers like you are. It would be a heavy dose
of Cover six. I play a lot of Cover four

(21:50):
and two. I want I want to I want.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
To cloud cloud.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I'm clouding pickets because he plays the X for them.
So I'm clouding him because he's he's really the better.
He's a better receiver, yeah, especially the deep the gold balls.
Then i want another safety in the run front. I
don't need to write a media in the run frism,
but so that when I'm when I'm playing quarters to
that side, I'm gonna get a safety coming.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
And fit to fit the run and say my tight end.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
If he doesn't go up the field, I can have
him double with the corner.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Playing on combo covers, Yeah, I get it, but that
but that combo coverage you got to really be able
to stop with the run, and that I'm not playing
true combo.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'm playing cover six, okay six, playing quarters to one side,
I got, I got a safety as an eighth man
in the box, and then I'm playing cloud on the
on the weak side. So I'm not leaving anybody one
on once per se that safety he's gonna be at
about twelve yards thirty maybe even fourteen year But.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
When they go doubles, so they get that safety out
the box down, That's what Dallas. That's a lot.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Again, which side, which side they're doubling the to the
strong side.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm just saying they'll go two by two doubles on it.
You know right, the safety is still gonna eventually come
into the box. And it's now if it's only a
single back set, it is one man, one gap I
can and it's gonna force you to go check down.
You're not gonna get the host exposive plays. So that's
how I'm looking at it.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
So with that kind of coverage and then knowing they
have the have a back like Javonte Williams in the backfield,
like you know how how we slow him down? How
we how we.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
He's bringing the safety down in the box. The safety
is not you, he's a he's the eighth man in
the box.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
He's my That's nice because he's playing cover to and
cover four and just to the to the field. Sometimes
that corner gotta work a little bit right and if
they go they got reekside run. My corner is the he's.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
In the rough man and the only thing by that too.
What I want to bring on the chime in on
is what your got name A J. Brown caught hitch
at the hitch at the hitch. So now you look
at that four. If we're giving them room out there
to catch them hitches, you think they're not gonna take
us take.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
A shot, and well I'm talking about dollars.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, I'm saying that. I was watching film on us
watching saying, damn, they're gonna play this and they're gonna
be off.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, it seems like we're gonna run this hitches.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
We played for this.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I'm like, you know, I know what you feel you
on that. But now people watch them and say, hey,
we don't have to reinvent the wheel. Let's go out
here and run the same thing. Pick them apart until they,
you know, change it up.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
All right? Well that but that I like that. How
you you brought that out of London? That leadst try
next segment, which is, you know fellas we you know,
what are some of the favorite memories. Obviously this is
you know, one of the best robbers in all of football,
you know, and y'all ball let me give you some stats.
London you have fifteen games and three sacks, one hundred

(24:54):
and twenty six tackles at fifteen games, nine tacks for lost,
three ten three eyes ts, three forced fumble. Tanner obviously
the cow boy killer himself. Nineteen games, ninety one reception
damn twelve Yeah, ninety one. You almost had one hundred
reception on them alone, twelve hundred sixty nine yards sevent
t ds. You have a sixty six boy killer. So

(25:18):
do y'all remember, like we talk about it all the
time because we just just but we got to get
your stats to you. Yeah, you know you want me to.
I'll give your stats. I can talk about my status.
You don't have no problem. Okay, we're talking about your
I played ten games, had two sacks, forty five tackles,
two untas. I would have more, but they threw the
ball at smoop mostly and nine break up. You know, man,

(25:39):
you know, so I'm gonna start with you Tanner. Everybody
talk about and we already had it early in the year,
but now it's a holiday game. Give me give me
a memory, man, you know everybody know the big memories.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Give me boy the money, not miracles stands out for
for just memories alone about playing these guys, and that
I think that that's going to always be the game
that that I can talk about and smile when I
talk to my grandkids one day and say, man, because
I had no expectations of what the outcome was going
to be, because that was like I said, it was

(26:12):
my first year, you know, second game of the season,
and I didn't know how the rivaly was. But one
of the games that I can, I can really really
appreciate about playing these guys was the Thanksgiving game. And
I bring up the Thanksgiving games because that was my
first time playing on Thanksgiving in the league year and
this is twenty twelve, and that was my only time

(26:33):
playing on Thanksgiving. And I grew up watching the Cowboys
play on Thanksgiving, and I remember playing in my little
little league games. We used to watch the I watched
the dolphinse and them playing the snow one game, and
I'm sitting there remembering that, and I remember that week.
I prepared. You know, I always have my family at
the game because I have a family that live in Texas,

(26:55):
and I'm like, okay, my uncle them. I get them
tickets every year to the game. I say, this year,
I'm going to ticket Master this time instead of getting
the team tickets, and had him in the nose bleak.
I said, I'm gonna go to ticket Master. I'm gonna
buy the seats, and I'm gonna buy them in in
a specific area, put them in the end zone. Because
I'm a score on this end zone. Like I had
like an epiphany us almost like it's just like I

(27:16):
woke up one day and like, I'm gonna score a
touchdown on Thanksgiving. I'm like, I told you, I'm a
holiday guy. Thanksgiving, Christmas. I love that time of the year.
And to know that I'm finna play my first Thanksgiving game,
it brought me back to those childhood years of playing
on Thanksgiving and literally I'm like, man, I used to
get off on Thingsgiving. So to score, I'm finished scoring
this game, and I need my family to be sitting

(27:39):
in this end zone so I could get.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
In the ball.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
And I scored literally in the same end zone that
I set my my family in, and so it was
just like, damn Tanner, you spoke it and it happened.
So that game right there, man, is the memory.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
To take it even step further to catch?

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, they catch. I was determined and just to see
it he threw that ball. I'm like, man, my body,
my moment and everything it was, I'm like, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Put my feet down. It was a back shoulder, but
it's all like that.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
You you have to turn the opposite direction, turned around
and catch and I'm catching wicked.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
And just knowing where I was at, I'm like, man,
it's tight, so let me go ahead on my toes,
let me make sure, let me make shut on step I'm.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
To turn with listen.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, it was crazy when you see this cat like
the throw, but the cat like towns turning.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I felt like you had to turn the opposite director.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I was running. I ran against his feet.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
I don't know how he ran out and up we
ran like the love like because I forgot what it was.
I forgot what to play and I wasn't supposed to
be the throw no more. But it's nobody else because
we we tight, we in tight quarters. So I'm like,
r G, you never know with him, like, you don't
know how that thing coming. But he pulled that one
out where he put nobody else gonna get it but me,

(28:56):
and he threw that thing right at buddy back, and
I just saw and I just came game a little,
you know how you get that little keeping its way
And I turned around and I literally like literally turned
around to my left side, and the ball was like right,
that's the first ball I ever caught in my body.
And then I can actually I watched that thing. Come here,
but the.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Toes And that point was like all I told you
my day.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
They told me I was light on my toes.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
So I started laughing when we started talking about memories
from playing Dallas.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I definitely remember that game kind of when we.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Had to pick that game too.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
That's why I want to get into because I'm shocked.
I'm like, damn, let me shocked about.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Look, what are you shocked about?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I should have probably thought, real talk, I probably should
have had about six against them. Really yeah, the first
game we played, well, I'm gonna talking about the real
quick on that Thanksgiving Day game. The way I got
that pick. We used to play this coverage. It was
a trap and I was the I've covered number three.

(30:00):
I had him everywhere and d Hall it was like
a quarters with the comedy it was. I forgot what
we called him. It might have been Buster to Buster.
I think it was too buster and d Hall would
have the slot. He was the nickel. So what they
were running was they would have me, I have a
witting and he run up and he run a little

(30:22):
ten yard five yard stop rap and then the safety
would end up taking over the corner the slot and
they was running a dig a basic and he the
safety couldn't make that play because d Hall would end
up trapping.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Two going out. It was a version of our four.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
So we make a halftime adjustment to where the Hall
is gonna jump the number three. We leave the number
two the number one out there solo. I'm gonna fall
off for that dig. Yeah, they ain't gonna see you coming.
Romo reading the safety not reading me. He threw that
dig blind. I caught that boy interception do with it.

(31:04):
I probably got about ten yards after that. It was
it was. It was in close quarters. I couldn't put
my thing. But I remember the first time I played
against the Cowboys as a redskin.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
We go to Dallas physical game.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
I mean it was hell.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Barbara was running back, Marion Barber and Barbie All I
heard about. I feel like Mary Barbara. He was terrorizing
y'all before big Flesh got here.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I don't know he was. Listen, we ain't never get
terrorized by nobody.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Was crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Jickie Barbara went for three hundred on y'all the year
before I got here. Marry y'all call him the Barbarian God,
Rest his soul God, bless yourself. So them two dudes
got me paid because they terrorized y'all. So I'm coming
in that game. All they talking about Barbera and all this.
I'm like, I'm about to light his ass.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
So we get into that game and me and m Wise.
So soon as I hit and hit him on the sideline, wow, and.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I put my finger up number one. I mean that's
the first.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
That's the first. Number two. I mean, I'm about man
start why I started putting it up.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
So we being up Blue, you had you had t Yo.
You locked him down.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
We first out, then your ass didn't play the second half.
I think you had a cat. Blue literally had this.
He had lost round and everything had him locked up.
We go back and look at stats. Your ass went
out the game and t O went off with that.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
You know what's crazy to And I don't want to
cut you off that game, bro, you just brought bad
memories because that was your first game against them.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Seven Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
And then I ended up going off that game. I
had like one twenty six.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I had like the stats we lost. We ended up
losing that game twenty eight twenty three. Damn Cowboys end
up nine to one. After that game, we were firing
five town. You went nine for one twenty one and
you had a touchdown. They shut our run game down.
But listen to what t O did. That boy had
eight for one seventy three four tds. Damn nah again, No,

(33:14):
that's it happening.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
No, it happened in second half a lot of when
you have remember because because you had no catches in
the first half.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
He went on the second half due because yeah, because
they ended up putting. I think they switched loose to
him after you went out.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I was jamming him to the ground and every Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I got to pick in that game too. Yeah, yeah,
first first game. It's cold. I'm looking at at halftime.
At halftime the score was ten to seven. You didn't
play the second half, and that's when THEO went off.
I'm blamed you for that lost. Yeah, that's probably we
gotta rip it up. And I don't even hear about
that anyway. Coming about the break, listen, hold on, I

(33:56):
was giving you, you know, I was praising you, but also.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
But you had to tell me what's mood back. They
might have been puting mood on it.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Spoo didn't want that work.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
But that's good man, we got a nice another young
good tl body type trailing Burke's coming up after the break.

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Speaker 2 (35:04):
Welcome back to the Players Club. As promised, we got
Trey Burkes joining us on the show.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Trey.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
We appreciate you joining us.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
You're welcome, blessed to be here.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, man, so you know you've you've been here for
a while now. What's it been like for you since
joining the Commanders?

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I mean, it's been fun.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
It's actually turned my whole perspective on football around.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
It's fun again.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
I enjoyed going out there with the guys, having fun,
making plays and you know, playing ball.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
So less to do that.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Speak on that man a little bit. I think, you know,
people fail to realize to know, you know, they probably
don't know your story for sure. You know, coming over,
you know, this was your second opportunity almost like you know,
of playing this game, this game that we all grew
up loving. You know, what has that transition been like
for you?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Man, it's been tough.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
I try to keep it down on the loaf for myself,
so I don't really think about it as much. But
I mean, I've been through some injuries and you know,
it's been some setbacks.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
But man, it didn't do nothing but make me.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
A better man and a better player. So yeah, Yeah,
came from Tennessee. Was blessed to be drafted there. You know,
I love that organization, but uh, you know, God had
other plans and you know, he blessed me to be here,
and I'm can't be more thankful A.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Lot of times people. You know, it's funny that you
said that because you was like my love for the game, right,
and a lot of people realize we're humans, right, We're humans.
So when you what I feel like to get that
love back? Man, what does that feel like to you? Mean,
it's like, I'm excited to go out there and practice.
What does that feel like?

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Man?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm not even gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
It's like it's only honestly like a kid in a
toy store, Like when you remember when we were little,
our parents take us to the store and they're like,
put that back.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
You've been not touching it like that.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
It's honestly like that because I mean I've had it
taken away really my whole career being in the league.
So just getting that joy back going out there really
the practice. It started with practice for me just to
be able to touch grass.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Again and compete.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
And I mean I got signed here on practice squad,
so it basically that put in my mindset like, hey, bro,
you have the bottom, like you know what I mean?
And you know I just put my hair down and
went to work, and you know, you know, God took
care of the rest.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
I see it too. I want to cut you off
because I kind of feel like I can relate a
little bit off, I got signed, I got drafted to
the Jets in two thousand and one, out the gate
hurt my knee. Instead of just doing the whole quick,
you know, you know, clean out my moniscnce and go
back and play in four weeks, I opted out for
the repair and then lasts longer. But I remember just

(37:45):
after that or so hamstring when quad went and I
almost felt like I couldn't get right. But I remember
Curtis Martin sitting next to him and he told me,
he say, Tann, you got to pay the play. And
I didn't know what that means as a young guy,
but I was. I was man. My ears were so
wide open because I wanted to hear something from somebody
to give me, give me a nugget to keep me
on the field. And I think that was that was

(38:06):
what turned the coner for me, is that I just
started looking into what they was doing, what the what
the upper classmans, I mean not the upper classmans, those
bets was doing so I can be able to do
the same thing. And when I found out it wasn't
probably a year or two later. And that's when I
started climbing back up and feeling like myself and being

(38:26):
able to play. Then I came over here and then
it was like everything was behind me. So to see
that this opportunity has kind of you know, I guess
you could say rejuvenated you in a sense. I'm gonna
be I'm gonna speak positive. Now we're gonna talk. We're
gonna put that behind us as it is behind us. Man,
what has it been like? Man, been in that meeting
room with Bobby Ingram and I saw you guys a

(38:47):
couple of times walking and talking, and it meant something
to me just seeing how he was trying to pour
into you, man, showing that you can actually be a
be something for us for sure.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
I mean Bobby, I mean he gives me the most
upconfidence that really any coaches given me.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
He tells me like if it's a busted player or
if I miss an assignment or something like, don't worry
about it, go do the next play, Like get back
to it, because you're you're fixing to make a play.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
You don't know when, but it's coming.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
And so yeah, man, he just he does it with
everybody in the in that wide receiver room and just
being in there with Deebo, Terry Nor Chris Moore, like
all those guys, those older guys, you can just tell,
like just by their worth ethic what it means to
just be out there. And it's and it starts in
the meeting room just intention in details on how they
pay attention, taking notes and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
So I mean, I could be more blessed to be
here for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
That's man speaking being here.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
You had that viral moment, yeah, one a head to
catch against the Denver Broncos. When I Brown and I
we interviewed you after the game. You hadn't had you
hadn't had a chance to see it since there's some
times of past looking back at that moment.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
What was that like when you went back.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And watched that player and just all the different calls
and text I'm sure you've had since that since that catch.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Man, it was just God, man, I'm just being real,
just what he's put me through and what he's brought
me out of. That was just all in that and
it was just an opportunity and me I was pressed.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Man out there on the gold line. I knew it
was coming my way. So you know it's coming. It's coming.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
He got you, And I mean cornerback. I mean, he
played great coverage, but he's.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Nice because once in the game, I know y'all talked
about how nice some corners and you know, I just
made a play.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
And to add even more context to that, you got
the thing on your finger.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Now you have finger surgery.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Week before, the week before, something like that, and you
caught that ball with this same hand, and you talk
about God.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
That don't even need a reason right there.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
I don't. I don't, I don't.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
I'm not the cocky person or the sound cocky nothing,
but like that to me is just like I do
that in practice, like that when the balls in the
air showing up like I just it's mine. So that's
just how it's how I operate in there. I want
it and I'm gonna go get it.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Said.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
But when you saw it, when you say, because sometimes
even as a player, you'd be like you've seen yourself
all your life? Sure, Like, damn, that was actually impressive
to myself. What I breaking off of all your plays
you made in your life.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I'd say, that's probably it's coose.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
To me, I was looking at it like I was
looking at it. I was. I was talking to my
son about it. I said, good ball, good catch. Ain't
no defense to that. That was crazy. When you saw that,
you was just like it has to be number one.
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
The last week, man, you know, tough game against the
Eagles and all that, but man, you show up. Man,
you you made some clutch catches across the middle of
the field. And you know, as a receiver, you know,
I'm not the biggest, but I always to have you know,
wide receiver. Coaches say catch radius, you know, so as
a little guy, you know, one of things I had

(42:21):
was hot, and one things I had was hard. So
I felt like anywhere that ball would be at, I
can go and get it from the middle, right, it's
up top. You have the body type to do all that,
and and the radius.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
And robbed on the catch the other that was not
a hold. That was not a hold on on Coleman.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Yeah, no doubt. But but he caught just robbed or not,
he caught it like that right there. Man, Just like
as a guy looking at the team, like, man, what
we can do with him for full season?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Stuff like that. You know, I'm pretty sure that these
guys on his staff like man, you know, because we
don't have that body type. You know what you have
in the size. Knowing that you different from the other
all the other guys, what does that do for your game?
Just knowing that this is something that I'm bringing to
this team and in.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
This wide receiver room. I mean, I tell myself, I'm unstoppable.
Like I don't let nobody. I don't let the referees
dictated or the you know, DP dbs. But I mean
it brings a lot just being able to I tell myself,
I don't have a catch Radi's wherever the balls that
I'm gonna catch it. And it's just how I was
raised with time. My great grandfather raised me just go play,

(43:29):
you know, make every play. And so it brings a
lot to the group. And you know, I'm just happy
to be here.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
For sure, last thing, and I know next year, I
think you're on one of your contracts. Move looking forward, man,
you got to appreciate the way that this staff has
treated you for the receiving course and you've.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
You've created yourself.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Well you have some opportunities, but I will say this,
make sure you take those things in consideration when you're
because you know somebody else may offer you some more
money money. But you know how this this coaching staff
feels about you. You know what you have in Bobby
Ingram and.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
And I think I'm I think the whole community.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah yeah, I do great things in this community, staying
here in Washington. And so put put that little say
that because I'm a fan. I'm just I want him
to have a hell of a career. Like, yeah, I
want you to go to a situation you're like, man, yeah,
they offer me this money. It doesn't work out for

(44:31):
you now you just so just think but think about.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
That for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
With that being said, you know, we have all our
guests signed this autographic football for us.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Man.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
You got three big fans here. This community has embraced you. Man,
I'm so glad that you're here on this football team.
And for Tanna and y'all that had that story. Like
and that's also something to think about when when you
get these young players, you never know what they're going through.
Continue to support the man, Commanders, fans, continue to support
your young players. Hey, we all want to play great football.

(45:06):
That'll do it for the for the Players Club, We'll
see you next week.

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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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