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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome back to the Players Club. We are your host
Sean Springs aka Bluefoot Santana Moss aka Cowboy Killer. Yes
he's the Cowboys Killer. It's Cowboys Week. I'm loved to
Fletcher Shant of Santana. Let the let the folks know
what we got a store from.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Today when I started this thing.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
GoF man, we're talking about the NFC East rivalry.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
And there's nothing like it. We got the preview of
it this week's matchup against the Dallas.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Cowboys, and we got none other than McCaffrey join the
show later.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's time to get this show started, fellas.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
There's nothing like division games.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We all played in this, this division rival What are
some of y'all best memories of playing in this this
rivalry right here?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Man? First of all, just.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
You think you know until the first time you see
like you in the game, you know you you in
the game. And my my best memories. I come over
to Washington my first year, Week two is coach Gibbs,
He's back against coach Parcells's their coach.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Man. It was like it was like the Super Bowl. Man.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
We might have had one hundred cameras. I had never
seen anything like that Parceles versus Gibbs, and that was
a Sunday Monday Night game and it was early in
the year and it was just incredible and I grew
up watching it obviously, but I had never experienced anything
like the City of Washington Hated album. So that was
that was that was just that stuck in my mind.
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It's probably one of the most like games. I was
just like wow. And obviously the two testdown game where
you killed them was like as a as a teammate,
that was the best feeling that was.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That was special. I think I'm gonna go a little
beyond the Monday Night Miracle game and talk about the
seven game when we had to go see them. I
remember the Snyder coming to me in the training room.
I had had a bum heel. I think I had
just played two weeks prior to that game.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We played the Jets for the first time.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That was my first time going back and facing my
old team, and it was Reeves first year and my homeboy,
both being that he's an ex cornerback and he watched
Cottage football at a nausea when it comes to just
knowing the different defensive backs.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
He told me, hey, this dude, Reeves is the real deal.
Watch him. He gonna beat He might be sticking you
the whole game. He that good end of the game.
I ended up.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I think we won the game. I could have got
him on the stud of go. Jason threw it in
the stands, but I ain't gonna talk. But he fell
on my heel on one of my routes and messing
my heel up. I was in a boot for two weeks.
I missed the game after us and then the Cowboy.
I was gonna miss it. I was just sitting there
getting treatment and Dan walking that thing. Something we could
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do to help you. We gotta have you, man. But
came game day for some odd reason.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Man, I was ready.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I remember the dree game, the drill them going. I
tried my little remedy. I got out there, I said,
oh yeah, I'm ready. I was in the zone and
I had like a hundred and something with a tug,
and it's crazy the second tug if Jason missed me
on it, threw a little high in the back of
the end.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Zone that was still at the game.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But that was a memory because already the rivalry meant
so much. But just to know that I had to
get up for a little differently, and then I realized
what was my impact was would have been like if
I wasn't out there being that I was there that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Day, you know. Yeah, No, I remember that game too,
that old seven game.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That was my first That was your first time, first
experience of the Boys Redskins rivalry.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I had played. This was when I came to watching it.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
That was my That was my third team and I
had been when I was in Saint Louis. San Francisco
was our rival. When I was in Buffalo, the Dolphins
was our rival. And I get here so I'm like, man,
I played the rivalry games. But I tell you what, man,
the physicality of when we got get those when we
played the Cowboy because they were we were.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Both big teams. You know, they had me.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I'm small, but we had Sean Taylor, all of them.
We had big guys, big offensive line. They had a
huge line, big big, big guy. It was a physical,
physical game.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And I can remember they had they had a running back,
no God, God bless his soul, and he was they
called him the Barbarian. I guess he was known for running.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You love that.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But they started to run that ball any time I
like that halma to him. I'm just like what he
would get?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Two three? I mean we were and being big being uh.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Man Marcus Washington, Oh man, it's probably twenty people in
the training room after those games.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
He's one of the two teams you had three picks. Again,
you're talking about being physically Listen, you brought that up.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So I was at a autograph signing this year and
Drew Pearson was there. So we're in the back side
of some items and I see Drew and I go
up to it introduce my dad's best friend. And it's like, yeah, no,
I know who you are. Lying back, I said, man, man,
you got something to common. He said what I said.
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We both called passes from Cowboy quarterbacks. You mentioned your dad.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
What was it like for you growing up in the
in the rivalry your dad places?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Man, it was it was you know, it was funny
because it was one of those things where you don't
think about, you know, like in college you was like
Ohio State Missigan. You started thinking about it my dad
and then we're talking about, you know, the Thanksgiving game
with the Christmas game. Now they didn't disrespect the Eagles
or Giants, anybody else. But they had a lot of
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respect for coach Gibs and what those boys was doing.
And I just remember just waking up on Christmas, like, man,
we're playing you know the Redskins. You know, I got
my Cowboy with jam was on and everything, and just
going to the game. It was a highlight for me
because it was it seemed to always be on a holiday.
It was and it was big robbery, Like this shit,
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yeah is on a holiday, So that mean we're back.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So that was a big moment, man.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And in the last story, when I came here on
free agency, my dad came with me, the reason I
signed him, and coach Bues and my coach Gibbs. All
they talked about was cowboy football and the robbery, and
it just showed me that they had both organizations had
so much respect.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
For each other. Man. So I was like, wow for you.
But you Tellner you they called you the Cowboy killer.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, another game that you I've heard you tell a
story about that Thanksgiving Day game in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That was big. That was big.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
It's crazy because can I say one thing about saying
Tana I want to say the crazy thing about saying
Tanna being a cowboy. I honestly thought Terrence Newman, who
covered him a lot, was one of the best corners.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think he's one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
My favorite corner is on my favorite cover and coners
I would go against. I always give him credit than
anybody else. They always asked me who's the.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Toughest Terrence Cone him back to face, I was like
Terrence Newman. They were like, huh.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I'm like, I saw him twice and I feel like
the guy was just gifted. You know what I'm saying. Man,
he long arms, fast, can run with you. So footwork
I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give it to your blood.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Raw. He the guy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Like he I thought I always had to get up
for but all just getting back to that twenty twelve game. Man,
different role, my mindset different, but I still had that
this is my time to shine moment, you know. And
I know my family lives there, my uncle's there, and
I remember asking the ticket master, can I get a
seat in this end zone right here? Because this is
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the Thanksgiving I'm like, it will be no better feeling
to give my own the football when I scored.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Who you call them? Never been that bowl and cocky
about myself. Never.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I always prepare it well, but I never called my
shot like I'm gonna score on this end zone. And
when I got them for the half man, I mean,
I see the picture to this day telling them to
come out.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I can get the ball. So I remember that.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Love going back down memory lane. All right, fellas, it's
time to get in the fast lane. Fast Lane presented
by Eastern Automotive Group, any car anyway for everyone since
nineteen eighty eight. Speaking of fast Lane, what do you
guys think, Man, we have to do to get off
to a fast start against these old cowboys.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You know what i' mud say that first possession, whether
we're starting off on offense or defense defensively, you got it.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You would love to get a.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Three in our right three and our get the ball
to the offense and then from there get points in
that first drive or it will't necessarily have to get points.
Put a drive together. It's not three players with puny.
Maybe it's a seventh eight play nine play drive just
to get our get our rhythm going, showing that we
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can move the football. Yeah, you love it in that
drive with points. But those are things I think our
key to us in terms of getting off to the
fast start. Defensely, let's get three and out. Yeah, I
think that's important.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Like, you know, three and out, it's like that's a
slow start, right, But if you can't sustain that first
drive and least change the field position, cross that fifty
get six, seven, eight, nine plays on the first drive,
you know, it's like, all right, we can we can
see we move the ball and maybe if we didn't score,
like least in field position change so and also I
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like to see least you know, if we have one
explosive defense play, what do I mean by that? Can
we get a you know, if we don't get a
three and out, can we least get a big hit
or a tackle for a loss and something.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Sack something?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I think you know honestly, man, and not meaning to
cut you off, Blue, but if you think about the
last two weeks defensively, man, they did that part. You know,
you talk about the Chargers game, they was really they
really held them to a field goal, but Frankie jumped
off sides on the kick the field goal and gave
them life again. They end up scoring. To me though,
that defense helped did their part. They did what they
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had to do. Fast forward to the Monday night game,
hold them to three. Offensively went out there and turned
the ball over. So it's all about having held them
to another three. That held them to both times. We
turned the ball over both series, you know what I mean.
So my thing is, offensively, we have to get on
the right page. I think we gotta we gotta stop
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allowing ourselves to, you know, allow the defense to be
on the field so much. For one, when they give
you that kind of field, or when they give you
that kind of opportunity to say, okay, we held them
the three, you go out there and score.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
We need to do just that.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
We need to do what we know ially seeing our
offense do I think when our offense has have we
come accustomed to knowing our offense of being in front
of the chains right, you know, moving the ball regardless
of how we do it, moving the ball and then
punching it in because you have a dynamic quarterback like Jayden,
you know, rather you're doing on your with his legs
or someone else's you know, legs.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Or him putting it up in the putting up in
the air.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
We known of us going down there and answering, and
I don't think we have been doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So I just want to see us answer.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Whatever the defense situation is, whether they let them score
or not.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I want to see us answer.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Speaking of answering, well, let's talk about the Cowboys offense.
These guys have been answered, you know, three hundred and
eighty seven yards total. They first in the league with
that offensive yards, two hundred and seventy passing yards per game,
the second, you know what I mean, twenty nine points
per game, twenty nine point seven points per game. They third,
like they clicking on all that has been playing on
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an all time high and to say the least man.
You know, when you look at some of their games,
you won't even notice what's been going on because they
always shootouts one of those games where the offense have
to answer or.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Make, you know, make them happen.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
How do you guys feel that you know what we
have to do coming into this game to kind of
slow down or I guess you could say stop with.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
That, you know, and part of the reason your point
is why they got so many yards is because their
defense ain't stopping nobody. We gotta get some stops on
our defense, I mean, or our offense gotta sustained drives.
Like however you want to look at our offense, we
can't give an explosive DAC to pickings doctor C. Hitty
Land or let them just get started in a run game.
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We cannot not sustain drives.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I think too, right, I think too that was That's
key for what you're saying, because this will be the
perfect time for our offense to be some of our
better defense. You know what I mean when you playing
against the worst defense, because they're ready to be one
of the worst defenses in the league.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Their defense.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
We have to be able to move the ball at
will up and down the field, keep on, keep our
de fense on the sideline, keep their offense cold, punch
it in and then now say all right, you go answer,
you go, you go out do us to me, I
really think this is one of those games when we
have to be you know, help our defense out and say, look,
we have to show them that we can move this
ball up and down and feel that will, punch it
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in there and now make that go answer.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I like this challenge.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
And you know you're coming off the loss against the Bears,
last night, we're gonna be from a defensive standpoint, we
didn't play our best game, not getting the third down,
not rushing the stopping the run as well as you
would like late when we knew Yeah, yeah, so not tackling.
Tackling has been an issue. We got to get better
tackling football. But we'll be challenging in the passing game
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coverage because even with ourt cd Lamb, they still got
some playmakers. George Pickts has come over there, sir, and
he's put in some work. He's had two out of
his last three games. Man, he's had eleven eleven receptions
and two two out of those last three games.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
He is a problem. He can do it all.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Went for one thirty eight and two TVs against the
Green Bay and then went for one sixty eight against
the Carolina Panthers in the touchdown, so he's been like
the number one even without CDs Lamb. Who may who
might play in this ball, I'm pretty sure. So for us,
we gonna have to We're gonna know, hey, we will
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be challenging the past game and they got a nice
tight end too, so we don't have to have our
make sure we don point from a defense, standpoint coverage,
but getting.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Pressure and when you said on point, meaning like when
I think about pickings, it seems like he's always making
a big play. Yeah, right, Like, so we just got
to do it, like, don't then Dallas to throw that
ball down. Feel like we just cannot give up a
big play.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, I think, man.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I think for the most part, our secondary has been
playing a lot better since the Atlanta game.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You know, we've been playing a little zone here.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
We've been mixing up, playing a little zone more than
what we saw in Atlanta. And sometime that's safe because
if you you were able to do that and get
out to the quarterback still, then like we saw Monday night,
you know, we was able to escape a lot of
those drives, just putting pressure and getting him to throw the.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Ball quick and the guys one ready for us.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So it's got to be that we have to see
us get out to the quarterback a lot better, especially Dak,
but not only get out to Dak. It's one of
the things that we got to worry about. What about
you know, Javonte Williams man slowing out the run. I
think this guy's been having a stellar year. Two What
he's four hundred and seventy six yards rushing fourth in
the NFL. He had ninety two carries and he got
five TVs. Like what I'm saying, hard, where has he
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been at? This guy is got off to.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
A good starting. Different then fella. I think did he
get Sean Payton? Yeah? Right? Did he get injured or something?
He might have gotten nicked, baby, right, But he's a
good running back.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Man, He's physically running between the tackles, and that line
has been playing better. The line has been real solid, man.
So we don't we don't only have that to word.
We gotta worry about that run game, yeah, and bottling
up there. So it's gonna be a task, man, it's
gonna be it's gonna be something that you know, you
don't want to see us not do well at all
against one of these. You gotta you gotta stop one
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to make sure you can slow down the other.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Let's not let's slap both of them. I'm cool with both.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Of them, but from a run game standpoint, and you
have to be exact. So the things that hurt us
and in the games the teams have been able to
run the ball against us, namely like you see the
Chicago game, getting outside even that even goes back to
a year ago, the run that hurt us the most
was those perimeter runs, the penning pulls, the tosses outside
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where you you gotta make sure you set the hard is.
But also from that standpoint, you also got to have
corners crack replacing and knowing exactly what you feel. You
gotta have guys running from the inside out making tackles.
They will continue to run these similar type plays until
you show beco that you can stop them. But it
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also we have to tackle better.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, but talk, I'm thinking, it's like, is it it's
just is as simple as like we're getting hooked on
the edge or it's like, do you feel like there's
a couple of guys here and there that's out of
gaps and that's why we get guys?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's a it's a it's a little bit of a
little bit both. And when it's not necessarily hooked on
the edge, it might be they got a receiver. You
gotta say, you got a tight a tight end outside
of the defensive end. So I'm playing off the tackle,
so he's already by his alignment he has angle on
me to block down on me, they pull a tackle,
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so I could I need to get penetration to force
the running back the the bowl a little bit. Yeah,
corner has to know he needs to fit outside that
that that pulling lineman. But now safety needs to be
running that alley coming up fitting in the tackle. Linebackers
have to be coming inside out. You gotta have guys
getting with the block. Well, whatever was throwing me off
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because he's running man. In theory, we should have had eight.
So it was that a gap issue a couple of
times later because there were a couple of times we
got reached, we got hooked out of our box, or
guys not playing it the way they needs to be played.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So it's more than just one thing.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Then there was other times where just people just missed
tackles like that that guy who was there who was
unblocked or should be making the tackles, make the play.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of one of those situations too, man,
where you can't keep allowing yourself to kind of be
in that same same, you know state when it comes to, hey,
just do your job. You know, it's going back to
what we heard Bill Belichick say so well, through those
years of those guys winning championships in New England do
your job and say.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Do your job well, they don't hear do your job well.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It's just but that that bothers me because my sole
purpose for being a part of this unit is because
I can do what I have to do my assignment.
So I always it always baffled me to when I
see a guy don't make a play when the play
is coming to him.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What is it, bro Like, why you can't just make
your plate talent level talent? Well about talent. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
We've all had plays that we didn't make that was
our We didn't make a play we don't go into
like damn, I'm trying to mess up on this game
that they getting.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Paid on the other side of the ball too.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So in order for this run play to work, whether
it's outsides on its side, z on whatever, all right,
I gotta shaded shaded nose or I got a three
technique that I got to reach. Okay, I got to
make sure I get this job done. So it's it's
situations like that where maybe bad it might be bad technique.
It might be a footwork standpoint, might be a hand place. Yeah,
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so it might be technique, hand placement, sometimes guessing.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Bad eyes, bad eyes.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's a lot of different things, so it's not just
one thing. But that's why each and every play man,
you gotta focus on the details. There's so much to
see great once they can process and know on this play,
these are the things I need to really hold in
on and get.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
See the thing, see the thing about the offense. If
I don't make my play, I don't catch. If I
don't do my play right, I don't catch the ball.
I can't because you have to do that part of
it right. Defensively, I always feel because I play defense
too growing up, I can be I can hit the
wrong gap. But that don't mean the next man who
got a chance to make this tackle don't don't.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Don't. You don't need to make we don't need we
don't need two wrongs. Two wrongs don't make it right.
So somebody gotta make me right. You see what I'm saying,
And that's what I'm getting. I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I'm talking about because I've seen time and time again
it might be somebody to just say they catch wrong,
you know what I mean, Or they try to do
something that they know they shouldn't have done. But the
next man gotta come up and say, all right, well,
this is my opportunity enough because it done came over
to me to do only my sole job, and that's
just to finish it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Finish the play, make the tackle.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And that's what at times when I see us not
having those games or having those those large when offices
are having those big games on us because we messed
up prior to that guy breaking for five yards, but
now we're trying to scrape at the ball instead of
just make the tackle.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Or you know, to your point, Santana, a great offense
makes them.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Right, and we keep him out there too long, right.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And you know, I think we can really take advantage
of those guys.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Speaking of, you know, a better offense, make a great offense,
make a better defense.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What do you guys got to say about Jayden?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You know, it's it's crazy, how you know, we go
up to La and Jaden did it again. He looked
like his old self, and then he had one little
misque or a couple of you know, he had two turnovers,
you know, but that it happens and not not a
world want to talk about, well, I think Kalo's better
or this guy's better.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I'm always go with my guy. I'm a company guy.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
But at the same time, man, I think Jayden has
shown us and he's only been here for a short
period of time. All last season when he messed up
or he didn't do something well one game, the next
next game, the next out, and he corrected it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Man, tell you the truth. You think about it.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The only reason we was in that game was because
of j Jayden because plays, especially with his legs.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And I was nervous by the way when he was
running a few times and on a slippery feel like Jay, Man,
be careful, bro's that slippery field with that need you know?
But yeah, he kept us in the game. And we know, man,
come on, you have games with the ball slip. But
now the one interception down the scene probably shut and
throw that hand the back. But like at the end
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of the game, Bill Belichick bringing up Bill, we practiced
with wet balls a lot because this situation happens.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It was just unfortunate. The same thing of coach again.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
We did it here in Washington, the same thing. It's
unfortunate that that happened. At the time it happened. They
have been playing with a wet all the majority of
the second half.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was like it wasn't something you know what I'm saying,
It was like the whole time too.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So out of seventy plays you might have once left
look at it like this, man, I look at it
like this, if you want to look at the the
game as a whole, phenomenal game.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Three touchdowns, even though he threw a pick, and then
when you win it all ball down to that last one.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's just the way the cookie crumbles, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Like it's like he said, he you know, lack of
concentration or lack of focus.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But at the.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Same time, man, the ball just came out back and
he never had a grip, never had I.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Got I got a thought for you.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Maybe when these two plays, something flukey happened, like a
hell Murrey or something like something like, you know, we're
talking about the football guy.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Maybe it's just something.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It's crazy how how how to cookie crumbling and sometime
how the ball bounce.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But I still belove leaving five.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I think five five going to go in and make
sure he correct himself. Got us and I think he's
going to be playing you know, like South this week.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Man, he's gonna go to the toe with that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I think that's been playing well, but I'm looking for
fire to go out there.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And we were we get this was about to touch.
We need some help for five this week, some teams.
So you look at the Bears the way they playing US.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Bears came into that game, they were one of the
one of the least teams that blitz the blitched blitz
right for bottom ten in.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
The league, bottom third of the league.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That game against US, they blitzed nearly fifty percent of
the time when we passed the football, And part of
that was because they say, you got hobble Deebo Samuel,
and they didn't feel like our guys could consistently beat.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Them, beat them on the outside right.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So hopefully I felt like that was a game where
we really missed Terry and no no disrespect to the
other guys, and they Chris Moore made some players in
the first half.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Luke ended up with a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Jalen had a nice, nice pass and I'm glad we
talk about Luke. He's been really stepping up his game
as of late. But unless unless we get those guys
back in. Until we get those guys back, this will
probably be the blueprint of a lot of defensive They
opened up with.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Zero coverage on like the first two three players.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They ain't have a safety in the Oh see, I'm
glad you gots brought it up, because that's what I
was talking about on one of the other shows. I
was saying that, okay, when you see that and no
knock to the players, and this is even no knock to.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
The o C.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
But that OC now having film on that has to
say if you trap me like this again, Noah, whether
it's Noah, Luke Jalen, I'm gonna throw at them.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You cut.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Like I say, it don't matter who we down, it's
who in that jersey at that given time. And you
got to make a play. I've been on teams where
cale one thing about calf. If you made it to
you made it to Sunday win, I don't want to
hear nothing.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You better win. And that's why all.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Us exceled because us, as we receivers man in that offense,
we knew we finna get a chance. So and you know,
you got to think about it for myself and being
being in a different rod and didn't having a less
of a role.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Man, When I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It on third down, I'm gonna win because this is
my only chance. So that's what these guys have to
have that mindset. I'm hoping that Bobby or either you know, Cliff,
is telling these guys, now, hey man, we believe in you.
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Speaker 1 (27:14):
Welcome back to the Players Club. As promised, we got
wide receiver. Look Caffrey joining us. We appreciate you joining
us on the Players Club.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Thanks for having me you.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
What does it feel.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Like when you hear our home stadium, our home crowd,
Channa Luke?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
It's awesome. I was lucky I played.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
I watched so many Panthers games, so they used to
do that with Luke Keigley. The first thing I think
of every time every time you made a tackle, and
so for me, every time I hear that, it kind
of brings me back to that, and so it's super special,
super super.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
What has your two been like for you? Man?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I mean last year we didn't know what to expect
with the role, but immediately when you got out there,
I saw a couple of times when you got close
to how having that score, you made some plays and
I was surprised because I'm like, here's a guy who
probably didn't anticipate having these opportunities last year as a rookie,
but making the most of them. Fast forward to this year,
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once you got your feet with it, you've been off
and running.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Man, what has it been like for you?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's been fun.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I think we have such a good brotherhood, such a
good team that I've just been blessed to be around
so many great people. I think I've been lucky enough
to be able to feed off that in so many
different ways. But just the unit in the receiver room
with Terry, with Adam Diebo this year, even Chris Moore,
Jalen Lane, everybody in that room is so so great,
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you know, it's such good energy, and so just being
able to kind of lean off that feed off that.
And then when you have a guy like Jayden and
then even Marcus who came in a couple games this week.
When you have guys that are that talented at the
quarterback position, it makes the receiver position a lot more fun.
And then I've been the beneficiary of a lot of good,
you know, kind of drawn up plays by Cliff too.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
So it's been a lot of fun and great coach
Bobby Ingram. Yeah, I can't forget about Bobby Man because
I spoke. I asked Bobby. Bob said, Man, I call you.
I don't call you Luke, I call you easy ed Son. Man.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It's so funny.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I tell I will save it because when I see you, man,
it just reminded me of my rookie year.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It's the funniest story ever. Man.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
My first game we play, the second game, we played,
first conference game. I met Seattle on my rookie and
they got Ed McCaffrey out there. That's oh, man, I
can cover him. I run FO two. He runs about
four nine man.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Story, So you can look at that up in fact check.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Me.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I ain't smoothing third pick.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
But anyway, by the third quarter, man, I was on
the bench and they said he took you to school.
Hit me with an out, and I never remember forgetting
sitting on the bench. It just got is like, you know,
that's when you said, you know what, don't matter how
athletic you are.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
People just work, man. And you got that. Bobby said
the same thing about you. You got that.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You know that work ethic, man, You just work. Does
that come from the dad, man, or is it your mom?
Where does that come from?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I think when you're the youngest of four, you got
to have a little scrap in, you know. I think
you a learned from I have three older brothers. Who's
ye did it so well?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
A dad?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
You know, I wasn't old enough to really watch him play,
but you go watch highlights and kind of get the
mentality from from when he's done playing, but I think
he kind of just bred that into all of us,
and just the way that we competed, the way that
we spent so much time outdoors, so much time he
particular doing stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Oh yeah, I searched her receiver, and he wouldn't say
a word.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
And then I finally started asking because he didn't want
to get, you know, too involved doing anything.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
You know, coaches at Rice. I mean, now I have Bobby,
which is awesome.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
So I had talked to him a lot less than
I did right away, but but it was so fun.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
The minute I started asking questions, he dove into it. Yeah,
so much.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I was just going to ask that because that's the
first thing I think of, Like, you know, a lot
of folks get you know, I guess you can say
namor by your brother being so phenomenal at what he
does as a running back.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I remember your dad. I'm like, I'm a receiver. I
know it.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
So I joke all the time like that's Ed McCaffrey,
so you know me all the time. I don't get it.
How does he feel about you playing his position and
seeing you thriving right now?
Speaker 6 (31:18):
I think that was a really cool moment. For first off,
that was how I felt with you, by the way,
whipping on my brothers and and all that, and then
watching you on Sundays was so fun. But uh, but
I think he feels really great about it. I think
it was cool seeing the transition. You know, I moved
from quarterback to receiver and he wasn't for that right away,
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And I think he didn't want to see me quit
on something that I spent so much time on. You know,
he cares about me. You know, he saw the time
and effort that I put in to one position. But
it was so cool when I really kind of firmly
was like, hey, no, I want to do this. This
is kind of the path I'm going to do moving forward.
Just to see that challenging and pushing me to support
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and seeing that change really is something that I'm so
grateful to have somebody who has that, who's going to
challenge me to make sure I'm confident in what I'm
doing and you can take the steps with conviction, and
then once I kind of do that, being able to
help me in every way possible.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
So it's such a blessing.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Having did you play for your father in high school.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I did my senior year.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
What was that? What was that?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
It was awesome? It was awesome.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Me and my brother's fight every single every single time
we're back home on what high school team was the best,
and Colorado has one A through five A. That's the
kind of like rank what he is, and we're the
only undefeated five A team. We're a small school, so
they my brother played him four A for a year
and then would play some like national games and all that,
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and so that was such a special year.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
It was so cool to just.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Have him and be able to learn from him too,
and be able to learn from just the new system.
You know, he learned a lot from Mike Shanahan back
taking his knowledge from that kind of to to you know,
our high school the most you can deal with with
a bunch of high school kids.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
But it was so fun to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Tell me this because I don't I don't think I
noticed or not.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Most of the boys or guys get their athletic talent
from their moms. I was told that my mom was everything.
So where your mom athlete or not?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
My mom, my mom and dad met in the training room. Yeah,
she's athlete.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Why would you give a mom some print in the past.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
She's she's the best athlete in the family.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Okay, is one of those courts? Does she play soccer? Soccer?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
High school?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You do a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So last year you drafted same draft class as Jade,
and you played played a quarterback at one point in time.
Obviously you switched to the receiver and uh college. What's
it been like developing that relationship with Jay and I'm
sure some of the things you probably see through the
through the lens of a quarterback. What's that relationship been
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like with him and developing, developing all and off the field.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Yeah, I think, first off, he's just talented, and so
it's hard to compare my game to his because it's
it's different levels when it comes to playing quarterback. But
on top of that, it's so fun to just see
his process, see the mindset he has, and I think
just the the calmness under pressure that he has comes
from the work and the preparation that he puts in.
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And it's so cool to see somebody with that much
confidence and that much you.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Know, poise, especially as a young player.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
You know, I think that's something that's rare in every
position in every sport, but to see somebody who has that,
you know, at a generational level.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Is really really cool.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
But playing quarterback, does that give you that advantage like
you know what he possibly could be thinking, like you know,
you see this, just look you kind of gives you
the bandage put you on the same page with.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Him, Definitely. I think that helps with film study, with preparation.
I think when I first switched, one of the big
things I learned quickly was at receiver, you almost have
to think small.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
You know, you have your route, you have your job.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
You got to you can't care about what the backside
receivers running.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
It's like, hey, I'm one on one man, the man
or its zone and I gotta find the zone. And
from that, I think timing wise, it helps a lot
because you understand that. But really the receiver comes down
to thinking small and focusing on your work.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I will say this, as time goes on, then your
start saying, Okay, I know everything about mine, now let
me look at the next guy and the next guy
and the next guy. By the time I got to
year ten, things slowed down tremendously to where I started
seeing the field instead of just worrying about my side.
So you got plenty of time for that. But but
I love the way you put that. You got to
think smaller because if you went out there as a
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quarterback now play receiver, looking at the whole field, you
got to worry about what was in front of you.
I mean, you beat that zone, you beat that man coverage,
that's all you have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
The uh You've been making your mark on special teams.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's where you initially started making your mark covering kicks.
You made the first touchdown reception, then you went out
and made the tackle on the only kickoff.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But in earness to do it, it takes leading the.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
National Football League. I believe in kickoff return average, you
continue to develop it as a as a return guy.
What has been really the key for you? Really just
ascending as a returner.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I think it's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I returned kicks back in high school and it was
one of the most fun things that I've ever done.
And I think coming out of college, one of the
big knocks on me was that.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
I'd never played special teams.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Wow, because you know, quarterback maybe held the backup holder,
but never played special teams. So that was always the
first question I got in every single draft interview, every
single meeting I ever had, was where are you going
to fit in on special teams? And so just to
be able to kind of embrace that has been so fun.
But I think we have such a good unit, starting
with Izzo, who obviously a great player himself, but I
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think he's, you know, top tier of coordinators you could
ever have as your first one coming in. And then
when you have a guy like that, and then you
have players like Revo, like Nicko Lore and all those
guys who've done it at such a high level, you
can't help but embrace it. And then that on top
of having you know, our key players playing on special teams,
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seeing Quan play, seeing Mikey on kickoff, Like when when
you have that buy in from the top down from
DQ to Izzo too, you know ingrained in the players,
it's so fun to just be able to be a
part of that, just be a small key, small cog
in the big wheel of what that you love.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Like like it all right, Louke, We appreciate that, Luke.
We have all our guests who come on the show
Autographic Football for us Man We appreciate it if you
would do that, and that'll do it for this edition
of the Players Club. Y'all can check us out same
time next week.
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