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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
Thank you, I enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I last night I won second place in a sweater contest.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
A week after the contest.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
So I was sitting there and the bar go to
a regular basis and I was sitting there and Catherine
I were just having drinks and talking and Jasmine, girl
who runs a place.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Was like, your sweater is awesome. I was like, oh thanks.
She was.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
In fact, we had a sweater contest last week and
the girl that won was so rude and her sweater
wasn't that great.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
We didn't give her a gift. Yeah, I'm gonna get
it for you. Brings out a free bottle of CHAMPAGEO
is You're the winner? Wow? Listen, good night.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Ugly sweaters get way more attention than pretty sweaters, always
like because they know you're going out to make a
You're trying to send a message that, you know what,
I don't care about being at the bottom. Right, I'm
gonna wear this bottom sweater and I'm gonna wear it
with pride, and that's what it's about.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
And this kind of looks like me too, which is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
The brown, the hair looks like. The hair does look
like I give you that. That is that's why you
bought it. Yes, that's why I'm gonna buy you some
hair moves for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh, I need it, man. It's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
When you get it, man, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know when you go through a year like this,
which I've been through as a player, so I know
how the players feel. It's one of the things where
I have to finish this is what I started. But
it's painful. But I also know I got to play
for the name on the front of the jersey and
the name on the back of the jersey. Yeah, so
I gotta I gotta finish what I started.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, that's where pride comes in.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
No, no, no, it's true pride, and it's actually just being professional.
I have to be a professional right now, and the
way for me to be a professional is to play
with the same passion I did in week one.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, that's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
And that goes for a lot of things, like your
job's coming to an end it's like all right, or
the seasons coming to an end.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's like, this isn't easy, but I'm going out. I'm
going to finish yea. Yeah, yeah, with pride, with pride.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
So well, you know, quick talk about the Eagles game,
that's just one of those you just gotta let go
and move past from.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was similar to the Joshua Paul fight. Oh I
love that.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
He messed with a real one, you know, Paul, just.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
He kept getting back.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I will say he showed some fight in him, like
at least like the guts.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
But when I seen him do the what do they
call it to look at with the.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Stair down, I'm like, this is not this is sixty
year old Mike Tyson.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
All right, this I said, I'm looking at Joshua like,
you're going to fight him.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, you're in trouble, dude, You're finna get beat up.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Like, not only did you finna get beat up, somethin
to get broken? Oh his jaw? Do you see that job?
I broke my job. I know how to feel.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
How does it feel?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I was wired up for forty five days.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
That sounds.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I couldn't talk my mom.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
She just embraced it because I had to go back home,
let her take care of me. And I'm wired shit.
I don't think I could do his ticks. Anything else
I talk about just it mumbles.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Oh that's wild.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I felt like getting a broken jaw against the Eagles.
But can I ask you this? Yeah, the two point conversion,
because I feel like that's the one thing everybody's talking
about in that game where the guys were they felt
it was disrespectful. Next year on, it was like, well,
you know, I just want to to make sure, based
on the numbers, that there was no chance for a
comeback as a player.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Had you look at it.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
We don't like each other, all right, That's what it
comes down. That was the final beatdown right there. All
I can say is the North remembers all right, we
will remember this next year, all right.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Like two weeks.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, like after the Cowboys, it's gonna be again. Yeah,
it's gonna like like DQ said, if this is how
they want to get down, we'll see him again.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Soom I've been say, just like Jake, Paul got mean,
Paul got beat down. All Right, We're gonna go try
to beat them down again. Like listen, it's no love
here in this rivalry. The Eagles hate us. We hate
the Eagles. Washington hate Philadelphia. Philadelphia hates the Eagles. Think
about this. Philadelphia used to be.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
The what we are.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Right now, the capital of America. Yeah, Philadelphia used to
be that until we took it from We are the capitol.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And it's still angry.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
They still angry about it, all right.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
So they building statues of imagine men, right while we
bel a statues of presidents.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
They building statues of Rocky that's what they doing, while
we building statues of Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
You understand me. That's the difference.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
It'll never be tranquility with them two fan bases.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
I'm not mad at them.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, I wish we would have did it to them.
That just the way things go right, that's football, and
I don't feel no way about.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It, Okay, I mean I don't like Philly, Like I
just don't like.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't like their fans, and how I don't like
them wearing as a badge of honor, like we're going
to make life miserable for you and be like a
garbage person when you're at the stadium.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
They are just the worst, all right, fanded them in
the world. All Right, they boo, Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
How a Philly fan challenge me to a fight under
a bridge one time? I'm like, yeah, I'll see you
there Saturday noon.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, I'm all right, me too.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Why do they think they like the roughest people in America?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Like, yeah, I'm gonna drive up to phil A. I'm
gonna meet you under some random rig.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
And fight you right and come back home with a
black guy right, Like to tell Lady Catherine, you know
I had to do what I had to do.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I had to do it.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I had to fight a random guy bridge. Yeah, well,
here's another fan base. We don't like cowboys. Fans hate them,
hate them, hate them.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Listen, you know what, nothing makes me feel better because
I had to go to my barber shop yesterday and
everybody in my barber shop cowboy.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Fan, really, how do you go there?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
It's easy. I like to go to enemy's territory. That
makes me feel good and that makes sense. I just
talk to them and they like feel the same way
we do, Like yeah, Like that's how they got to say.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'm like, you're empty inside.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, just yeah, And I'm like, yeah, we feel the
same way. But we did go to the NFC Championship,
so you know, it's one of the things where I guess,
like they say, crabs in a barrel, right we at
the bottom.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Bring your butt back down.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
We want you right there where we at. And this
is what it is right now. So this's why I say,
I don't know if this Christmas is good for both
fan bases Washington. And that's why I told you coming in,
I feel like the game will still be packed because
I feel like a lot of Christmas prisons was gifted.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's a ticket to the game.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Well, and you know, DC, like that's the thing that
blew my mind when I got here. I mean, I'm
from Texas, but I do not have never cheer for
the Cowboys. But when I got here, I could not
believe the number of Cowboys fans. And I live right
in the city. I've lived there for two diets. It's
I call it the middle child syndromes.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Crazy.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
The middle child of each family says, I'm going left,
all right. My daddy, my mom loved Washington. I can
only make them sick by being a Cowboys fan. So
every middle child in DC, in the DMV is a
Cowboys fan to upset the apple cart. They hate they family.

(08:00):
They want to go left. And guess what we got
as many Washington fans in Dallas. They want to go left.
Middle child syndrome. I'm from Mississippi. Half of my family
is Cowboy fans by nature, because we have no team
in Mississippi. So you need to go Cowboys, New Orleans,
Saints out the Falcons.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Why Cowboys? I can see Falcons and particularly Saints, but
why Cowboys?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Because it's the South and the cowboys out there.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
It thing in the South, and the Cowboys has some
villaintry to it. It has this outcast feel to it,
like yeah, I'm a Cowboy fan, Like I'm gonna rub
it in your face. Yeah, So yeah, my uncle, super,
Uncle Mayovin just super.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Mike Irvan fan.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
When I was growing up, he made me start loving
Mike Irving because I was what you call a d
un disciples. Okay, so I was basically whatever Dum was.
I was a fan of it. Yeah, and I had
to tell the fans this now, I'm sorry. I was
a falcon. I had to start a jacket everything. Yeah,
I was a forty nine er. And when he played
for Dallas, I was a cowboy fan.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yes, I won. I'm being honest. I was a cowboy fan.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Then he came to Washington, and not only did I
get drafted, hear why he was here.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
He handed me. People don't understand this.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I wore number twenty three for like the first week
of training, I mean first week of me being here
until the handed me in twenty one.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I've been waiting to do.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
This my whole life. Listen, I can't let you die.
It was humbling, I'm sure, very wull You idolize someone like.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
That, know when you pairing your whole life after somebody
like that, and then you get to meeting because you
only when.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
You meet your heroes, you don't usually.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Go well, that's the way there's covering athletes too, Like
sometimes you have an idea of how you think they're
going to be, and sometimes you're like, wow, that person
was so nice, and then sometimes you're like, man, I'm
really disappointed, like this is a bad person someone Like
I've had to have it a few times where I'm like,
man for the disappointment.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
But I met my hero and he was just like
I thought he would be. Nice.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, talkative, motivating, welcoming, just yes.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
And I remember caught me. I'm in there watching film.
He catching me watching film of practice. But I'm watching
they are green, Like what you're doing?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
What I like?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
I'm just watching him trying to see see how it
gets stuff done. He's like, let me tell you, some
ain't nobody.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
They are green. But they are green.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
So if you're gonna think you're gonna patter yourself out
to him, you can't do it. You do you run
the four one? I'm like, no, you can't do what
he did. Nobody can.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
True, and Eon was one of those rare dudes.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I mean just watch him growing up where every time
he touched the football, you were like electric.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I mean like I just got chills. I'm talking like
Electrif you knew he was, you were gonna see something special.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
He changed the way they recruited dB. He was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
He made them go taller because that's where I got
to come in, and we wanted taller DB's and we
won't speed. We can only match the wide receiver speed
with speed on speed. He changed to He revolutionized the
position to make it. If you're gonna pay receivers, you
gotta pay us. You want to stop them, you gotta

(11:24):
have an equal guy on the other side of the bout.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
The real mark of someone like that in any sport
is when you say, I've never seen anybody like this
person before, Like there are a lot of great athletes
in that found like this reminds me of Jackson.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I had this talk about bow all the time, Like.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Bow.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
If I had to choose against bowl, Emmitt Smith, I'm
choosing Bo Jackson.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, and it was great. He was a great player,
but Bo Jackson was one of one.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Don't question thank you.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Like sometime numbers don't tell the story. No, like numbers
do not tell the story. When I you played tich Mobow,
I'm just.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Getting the raiders. It's over. I got Bowl, and I
got Marcus Alley and Marcus Allen.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's how good Bow was. He made you forget about Marcus.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
He was unbelievable. There's no question that I'm seen by
like him either.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
I'm just saying like, sometimes you gotta look at sometimes
the I tists, right, you could believe the I tists
sometimes I.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Took a point.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
You look at numbers like well, I'm like no, no, no, no, no,
no no, you don't understand.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
You don't. This guy ran up a wall.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
He ran up a wall.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
He played two different sports and the only reason he
didn't last long was because of an entry.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That could have easily been fixed today. Yes, but back
then it was it deaf wish.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yes, it was over. That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
So Cowboys, I mean we got I'll tell you one thing,
it is nice to have a great rivalry on Christmas Day. Yeah, earlier,
walking walking in this city, I was like, what are
you doing Christmas? You're like, I'm gonna be with you working.
I was like, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
You you asked me like, yeah, you're flying home.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm like no, Like no, dude, we work, We're working.
We're working on Christmas.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
What are you doing together, like I will be seeing
you drinking hot Coco on Christmas at Northwest State.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
This spike Coco. They have that too.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Well, guess what, I won't turn it down. No, no,
I will. I don't believe in alcohol and dairy.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh. I was like, you don't believe in come on right,
But what I'm saying is okay, And that makes sense
when you mixed the two, you asking for it, And can't.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
We all gather around and say in two thousand and
five we don't drink eggnog.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I don't like eggnog. Is not a thing.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I don't like ignog. Like it's some things we need
to let go of the past.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Fruit cake, let it go, let it go, stop manufacturing,
stop wasting, Yes, stop doing it.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Actually, that's something my family was talking about. We were
brought up. Oh hi, everybody, I'm back.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm well. Apologies ran out yesterday.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Yeah, you had no idea what Fred and Janks were witnessing.
I'm just here, like fully basically out pineapple upside down cakes.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
That was the whole thing. My family was like, does
who wants that?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Nobody?

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Who wants that? Who wants a fruitcake?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Nobody?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Some things need to let go.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Egg knocked number one, Let it go, fruitcake, let it go.
It has passed, Yes, all right, I don't when I
look at it. Fruitcake in my time was basically like

(14:43):
a table topper. It was more Yeah, it was more decorative. Yeah,
it was decorative. Nobody actually ever came in there like.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
There was gonna be fruitcake, fruitcake. Nobody I have.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
I don't think I ever witnessed a person a piece.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I've never had one.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like, there's some things I've never had, and I'm like,
you know what, I don't feel like I'm missing anything.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
A fine way. Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Like even the thought of ign I think maybe I've
had a sip once.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I'm like drinking like an egg I don't know, I'm out.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
I liked it, but you have to have it. I
don't really want just like straight eggnog. I've had like
an eggnog martini.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
This sound. It was very sweet though, it's very sweet. Interesting,
by the way.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
One of my favorite comments last week, and we're glad
and it's feeling better, but after you left, we went
off the rails.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
And the comment was never let an.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
I appreciate you and Caroline stepping in ya.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Thank you for.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Hey, I enjoyed it. I think I love organized chaos.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Cala has a nice now where she like pops by
the booth like before every game you have to look like,
oh there's.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Oh no, just speaks it leaves. Yeah, that's what she does.
He's left the wrong with it.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
You know when you go to the second eh u
she didn't go to Hampton.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, we're here to Hampton. You know, I'm more of
a Howard guy myself.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Yeah, I'm a Hampton fan for Kayla. Yes, I'm a
Hampton fan.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Caught a lot of Buffalo and the fire has died.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I hate to tell you that.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, you know what I ordered?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Of course, ordered the Texas Shore yesterday because it's on
sale and it's like an old school like throwbackers, like
Texas Longhorns nineteen seventy five Blue Bonnet Bowl champions, and
I was like, I'll order that, And then yesterday.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I got it in. I was like why because I
like ventured stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, and so I was like, wait a second, I
was like, Alexa, who did Texas beat in the nineteen
seventy five Blue Bonnet Ball.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
It's like Texas beat Colorado thirty eight. I was like, oh, yeah,
I know we.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Were good ones.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
You are.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
I don't know where we go. The thing is, I
just don't know where we go from here. I don't
know where we go. Like recruiting life.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
That's where y'all are.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, you know, like Colorado is a state, but it's
forgotten most of the time.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
You know what, keep it that way. I keep it
a secret. I want that to be a secret.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I used to live in Minnesota, and I tell.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
You this, Minnesota in the summer.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I tell people about Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
If you go into Minnesota and visit it in the summer,
you'll be like, I got to come back.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
It's drop dead gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
It's water everywhere, it's tech savvy, it's artsy, it's clean.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
It's two capital.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Cities, twin City.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, Colorado kind of stuck right there.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
No people go on vacation.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Oh, I know what you're saying, though, I see what
you're saying. It's not a destination place.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
What it like? This?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
It is? Yes, that's what they call it, right, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Colorado got Ridians never really leave Colorado.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
What are you talking about? Are you talking about Colorado?
Are you talking about the university. Are you talking about
the state? Okay, because I'm the state.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Because people say.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Going out with they usually going to three places California, hm, Arizona,
Las Vegas, Vegas.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
There they go. So we fly over Colorado.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
My only argument for this and then we'll get back
to cowboys. If you go to Colorado for vacation, everybody's.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Going to ski ski. Yeah, so it is. It is
a vacation destination.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
People.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
It's not for a vale.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
They're going to ski.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
No, No one's going to Denver. I will say, no
one's going that.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
What I'm saying like, yeah, for as big as the
city is Denver, there.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Is a great city.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I love great city. Yeah, great city.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
You're going to the resorts?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Want to ski? And this it? Do you snow ski?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I have been that.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah, dude on the mountain, just biting into a klund
like just ski.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I've been like three four times. The first time I went,
I picked it up pretty quick. Yeah, because I grew up,
believe it or not, in Texas. I grew up water skinning.
So it's different. But the balance is the same, right,
you have to know to keep a balance.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
But it's stopping this all is about. It ain't about skiing.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I would my uncle.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
In the first two days, I'm like the greens blues,
like I'm doing it. He's like this, He's like, you're
picking up quick, because I think you're ready for real black,
You're ready for a diamond.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah. No, I came to a split. I could have
gone left or right.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
He's like, come down this way, and I got going,
couldn't stop and I fell forward and my knee hit
the bottom of my chin and like sliced it open.
Oh so I was a bleeding line. I didn't release.
I was kind of out of a little bit. But
I remember the look in his eyes. He's getting some
snow to try. So he's like, you're looking good.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Don't worry about it, don't worry about it. But I
was like that look means.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I came down the hill and the dude at the
bottom all he started yelling his hov lanche because he
knew I was finning.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
People make fun of you.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yes, yes, so he yelled ava lange because he knew
I wasn't gonna be able to stop because I'm moving
too fast. Then I'm grinning because I like smile at
everything I do. So I'm trying to stop. So I
try to I turn myself, turn my body like they
taught me, turn your body.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Try to stop.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
And people don't understand when you when you start to tumble.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
The skis are still on your feet.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
It's dangerous and the skis a'm poking you, hitting you
and beating you.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Up, tearing a c up.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yes, when was this?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Oh listen, and it's like I wish you could have
seen it, like.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Twenty eighteen maybe. And then you gotta realized that I
lived in Minnesota. That's when I start trying it, because
Minnesota they got all these ski jumps everywhere you go,
just ski jump. Really, somebody, somebody dare me to try it.
So I tried it, and then I was.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Like, I like it. I got this.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
And when you athlete, you just think you're good at
everything until you get on side of that mount.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, listen hazard if yeah, back to the cowboys. I
don't know how.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Also you could call us, call us let's talk about
it whatever seven three six, seven four one nine.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Also you can email us Washington get loud at gmail
dot com. Do you wonder cowboys? Want to transition to
the holiday talking.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
About cowboys.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Cowboys defense.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
I actually as a rocker, Fowler, Williams, Quinn Williams, uh overshown.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
We're both questionable right now.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
But I'm just saying it like they got dudes.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
They have dudes, And to me, everybody looking at this
game for what it is Christmas Day, I'm looking the
next year. I think the Cowboys gonna be dangerous. You
think some I think they're gonna be a dangerous team
next year. I think we're gonna be a dangerous team
next year. And I think this is a preview of
what that is. Yeah, they healed up better than us.

(22:11):
They got the quarterback Dack playing well, George Pickens. They
gonna have to figure it out. They gonna sign him back.
You'll be a fool not to He's gonna make some
bank dirty. Yeah, but I think it's gonna be short
bank because I don't think nobody wants to give him
like a five year contract, So I think it'll be
like three years ninety million, three years one hundred million.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
He's been better. Is that wrong to say he's been
better than Ceede Lamb this season?

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Well, he's faster than Ceedee Lamb, he's taller than Ceedee Lamb.
He catches the deep ball better than Ceedee Lamb, but
Ceedee Lamb is the chain over. Yeah, he's the first
down machine. He's the volume guy. I just think the
ball skills of George Pickens are so scary. Yeah, he
can catch from any angle. He's flashier than see the las. Yeah,

(23:03):
and I think that's what it is. He brings another
level to that offense that makes it feel sometime unstoppable
and sometimes this year it has been unstopped.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
So they got a machine over there, they got offensive alignment,
Javonte Williams running their ball the way he running a ball.
They are scary and it's gonna be a good game.
Can we can we keep them out the end zone?
It's gonna be the whtel of the take on Christmas.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, at least there's you know what I like is
that when you talk about there's tough, it's tough sledding.
And obviously when you're talking about the next two weeks,
you say, what are you playing for?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Where you got the Cowboys? There are trivel on Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And you gotta rematch with the Eagles, which you are
looking forward to. So there's there is actually something to
play for No.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
You're gonna play because you are mostly attached to these
two games. Yes, like there are any Division games. I
don't like you, you don't like me. We're gonna fight.
When I fight, I'm gonna give you anything I got. Like,
that's just what it's about. And that's why the NF
the NFL made sure to put the Division games at
the back of the year to make them mean more. Like,
I understand we're not going to the playoffs, but it's

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still two fan bases that dislike each other, have no
love for each other.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It will be a broad fast.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
And if you show out in this game, fans will
remember you. They'll remember that performance. Like Santana, people call
him the Cowboy Killer, which sometimes that was his first game,
which is sometimes is a fair because he had he
did against the Eagles, like he had the game against
Jacksonville where he was unbelieved, like he's had incredible games
side the script, but they remember that one moment because
it was against the calf.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
It was a moment in time, and when it's a
moment in time, you get labeled. Yes, all right, so
guess what, I'd rather have that good label, right, And
that's the thing about.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
It, So there'll be that extra incentive for someone to
stuff up and have.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
That, and I think they will and the Cowboy they
will not come in here trying to take it ease
on us. They gonna come in here trying to do
what they want to do to us. And they gonna
realize we playing with a backup quarterback. They gonna really
but guess what, we ain't gonna make no excuses for it.
We still got a game to play.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, what was Do.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You have a favorite memory or how much did you
look forward to playing Dallas, especially because you know so
many Cowboys fans.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
I've been say I was such a big mic Carge,
Like he's gonna think about it. Every time that I,
me and Champ went to Dallas, de Young came picked
us up. Oh okay, because he made sure we ain't
dinner at his house. He was retired at the time. Okay,
So me and Champ would get picked up by d Un.
We would go to d UN's house and eat dinner

(25:33):
and it'll be Me, Champ, Bailey, d Un and Michael Irvy.
Oh wow, So imagine the conversations at this time. And
this would happen every time we played in Dallas, so
I looked forward to it, playing in Dallis every time,
and you got to realize he just gave me his number.
So I go there first time I ever play there,
and I get an interception and I'm running the interception

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back down the sideline and Larry Allen comes out of
nowhere the truck with no breaks.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Don't even talk about that.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Smashes dude, smashes me. And I remember Bruce Smith telling
me before the game.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
He watched a couple of EU D live and don't
play in the game.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I'm like, they don't want to mess with Larry Allen.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
I like, why, Bruce, they got Larry Allen flow. I'm like,
what is that they scared of? And I watched that
for him and watch him defensively attack d tackles.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I was like, this is the.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Biggest, strongest, fastest big man I have ever seen in
my lot. You notice Jerry at this generation came down
any time they was losing. He would come down to
the sideline and he would go right to Larry Alley.
He wouldn't go to Emmett, he wouldn't go to Troylet,
he wouldn't go to Michael.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
He would go to Larry Allen and grab him by his.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Face, man, and say wake up, and guess what. He
wouldn't wake up. Determination he was terrified. He was listening.
He was he benched like six hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
You're you're not joking lying, I'm not exaggerating. I'm not nothing.
And you know how hard it is. I know, I mean,
you're in the game.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
But for the casual fan to know on offensive lineman
like that, you know how dominant you have to be
to be like, I don't know much.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
I know that guy, Larry Allen and Eric Williams another
one nightmares.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
That's what people had with night mayors.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
I have watched their man handle the grown men to
the point I'm like, man, I'm gonna pray for you. Your
matchup doesn't favor you this week, but guess what, we
still got a game to build.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Football gods are not on your side.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
They're not on your side.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
It's like, you know, I gotta see Kevin just next week.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
We all got these matshups, like we all got these things.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
That doesn't lean to our favor.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
But to those who had to take on one, Larry Allen,
I pray for your soul and your body because he
was a monster. Yes, I'm just saying, I don't know
if it's been another official lineman destruct fear the way
that he did.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
I don't think it ever be another officer line. I mean,
you may be right.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I think the closest I can think is maybe like
a Trent Williams, someone like Shrimp.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yes, some of that he has a little bit of
a Yes, some of that because he's very defensively offensively.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yes, and something.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
You know, it's one thing to be a guy that big,
in that talented, but to also have a real nasty, meanstream,
real meanstress.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yes, you play with your emotions on your shoulder right
like you don't.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You don't try to hide anything. Yes, those are the
most terrifying of all.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Listen, when I looked up through that hole in this stadium, huh,
because Jerry said, God want to watch the play? I said,
he must be watching Larry Allen. He gotta be watching.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I mean, I covered when I was in Texas, I
covered Cowboys training, came and covered Cowboys games during the nineties.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, and it was.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Just like as big a star studded circus as you
can imagine.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
It was just one and he was one of them.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
No, he was one.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Come on, can we all agree that image Schmiel ran
behind the best officer line.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
It was silly, easily great look great running back. But
as they always say, get Barry Sanders that line.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Barry would have ran for nineteen thousand miles behind that
outfensive line. I just to be honest about it, right,
And I know people gonna be like, smooth you and
your immit hate.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
By the way, I dislike you. It's a difference.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
It's the holiday season.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
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(30:12):
you called him the Grinch.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
He is the.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Why Logan is here. Yeah, because he's analytic.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah, he's about everything.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
And we talked about our ski trips. The question is
have you ever a ski? Logan?

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Dude, Yeah, I have ski. Remember we talking about the
toy that I said, you're gonna come ski with me?
And you were like, yeah, you know, you made a
joke that I can't make on the show. But he
just basically said that I haven't done a lot of skiing,
and I, you know, I was like, I felt kind
of bad, but I want to include my buddy in
the ski trip there.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, I have ski I told him about some of
my ski yeah trips.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
It didn't sound great. Yeah, you know when you start tumbling.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
I had a dude, could you imagine just Jake's just
walk with me on this memory lane right here, just
our guy fretsmot going.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, I had to do how from the bottom of
the ski thing? Yeah, half a lance because he knew
I was going to like fall and start to Tomby
and start the road. And I said, the danger most
dangerous thing of basketing is the fact that the skis
are weapons.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
Well they should click off though, Like, so, whoever did
your bindings obviously didn't hook you up. Because when you
go into the when you want to get your skis done,
they say, are you a you know, intermediate expert or beginner? Yeah,
And the reason they do that is because they tighten
them down if you're an expert because you're gonna be
doing like some hard ice skin. But I would highly
recommend getting those things on beginn because those things will
pop off as soon as you look at them.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Pop off. Ready to go, listen everything.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
It sounds like you're a very experienced skill. I grew
up skiing.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
Yeah, Like out in California, there's some like high elevation
mountains obviously, so like Mammoth Mountain is where I grew
up skin. It's fourteen thousand feet elevation, so they have
snow pretty year round. They have some pretty difficult stuff.
Like I'm not like an expert.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Or anything, but so he basically Brody Brody from uh,
what's the movie Brody the.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Bank the bank robbery movie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Wait from Oh goshak Break.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
He basically Brody Like wait, it's because Brody.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Did everything today.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
Yeah, to the limit, push it to the limit. Chasing
that high.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
He would literally ski off a mounted with a parachuting
it just just parachute to the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
What's the last what do you take it to the edge?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Dude?

Speaker 7 (32:26):
What are the greatest, like maybe underrated kind of movies
of all time?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Agree?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Great movie? It needs to be remade. No, they already
remde it. They already tried, and it wasn't good.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
You can't recapture like that chemistry and that and just
how ridiculous but great it was.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Yeah, that's that's that's a great way to put it.
It was an insane premise for a film like bank
robbing Surfers spoiler alert if you haven't seen it. But
then it made it kind of cool at somehow it
somehow worked because it gave it.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Age unpredictability, what was going to happen next with Brod
because Brody was like.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
I really think that happy. That's Gary Busey, man. That
guy was out of control.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And then you got to get out. I saw something
all not great. I guess we gotta go to Dallas.
Poor hand. It's like holding up a sign Dallas, Dallas. Man.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
You know what, sometime Logan don't like to just be analytical.
He likes to show the other side of his personality.
You don't like to just talk xes and own. But
if you want to talk personality, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
What's crazy is to go point break Andrew Dies played cowboys,
so what are we doing? Cowboys? Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
So look, it's still a divisional game and you're always
gonna want to beat the Cowboys. And it's on Christmas Day.
So there's a lot of elements here that do make
this compelling.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Yeah, there are a lot of elements to make it compelling.
The history of the rivalry, you know, just the bad
blood between the teams. I mean, I'm kind of curious,
like what what do they do at quarterback? You know,
they bring in the guys on Monday and he's gonna
play on Thursday. And it's like, is Josh Johnson gonna play?
And what are you gonna do offensively and defensively? How
they hang with all these weapons that Dallas has, and

(34:05):
does Dallas bring the pressure the way they brought it
in the first There's lots of questions for me as
a fan of the game. But yeah, it's just it's
gonna be It's kind of up in the air, right, correct.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
It's kind of up in the air because Deck and
his pollent offense, Like how do you slow them down?
Like that's the question, how do you slow down Ceede Lamb?
How do you slow down George Pikins? How do you
slow down the run game with him? Like they're gonna
come in here and try to put up points, the
hated fear of their right, the motion to steer there like.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
It's Christmas Day.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
And you know, like I know, when we play these
holiday games, we want to make a name for ourselves.
So I ain't gonna say how serious is the game,
because it's a serious game, because it's a pro game.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
But what do you think the outcome?

Speaker 7 (34:48):
I have no idea about the I mean, it's just
it's about I look at Dallas, though, Fred and we've
we've watched enough film to know, like they are so
good offensively, Yes, Dak is playing like a top five
quarterback in the NFL. He'd be in the MVP legit
MVP conversation if they had a better record, right, Like
George Pickens is playing his face obviously made himself a
ton of money. Ceedee Lamb is a top ten wide
receiver any given year. Right, And then you look at

(35:09):
their tight end room, very deep the offensive Yeah, the
offensive line is starting to come around. They move Tyler
Smith from guard to tackle. It's really solidified that group.
And when you can protect Dak, he's gonna make you right.
And you mentioned William Williams, the running back, like he's
kind of rebirthed himself in this offense.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
It's well designed.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
There's a ton of play action, there's a ton of
boot there's a ton of well schemed, well angled runs.
This is a tough out, man, It's a tough out defensively.
So when you say what's the outcome, I think you
just got to You gotta play your best game as
a commander.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
What I mean by that is you got to you gotta.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
Play excellent on third down, you gotta play excellent in
the red zone, and then you got offensively, you got
to get enough out of the offense. So the defense
isn't on the field for seventy five eighty snaps and
can we do that is the million dollar question with you.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Coach Schottenheim was here when I got drafted. Really his
dad and Marty was my first ad coach. Dad, Marty
drafted me. Uh. Him and deck In Beck knows this
offense to the t well.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
It's interesting because like when you look at like Russell Wilson,
like his best years in Seattle, like he was the
offensive was the offensive coordinator, right, and so he has
this understanding I think of like what works for a
quarterback and it makes sense because he's been around football
for forever, right, and when you look at the offense.
When you look at the offense, it reminds me, honestly
a lot of like Kyle Shanahan's offense. It's different in

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terms of like the runs that prioritize, the concepts that prioritize,
but the rhythm of the game is very, very similar,
and it's very conducive to helping a quarterback out.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
So when you say what's the result, what's the outcome?

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Shoot man, Like, you got to get a really really
excellent defensive effort, you got to get a couple turnovers,
and you got to get a big explosive specially teams
playing with Jalen Lane out.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I don't know where that comes from. Necessarily. How has
Pickens elevated his game where I mean better than is.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
His ktch radius.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
If I had to say anything defines him, is him
tracking the ball and the.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Radius that he his arm length.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
His catch ratings is unbelievable, and I think that separates
him from a lot of receivers.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
It's the catch radius, it's the ball tracking, which is
kind of an element of that. And then I think
also they're letting him do more stuff. Like when you
watch him in Pittsburgh, janks like it was like run
a gorn to go, run a go. And now it's
like we've got hitches, we got number one, we got
we got deep digs which he wins on right. And
because of the ball, like the catch radius, the tracking
of the football, like there was a dig versus Philly

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like where that kind of puts it a little high
and inside and I'm like, no way he catches that.
But he jumps up the body control to catch the football.
Like when you look at elite traits like he might
have that like that ball tracking, catch radius, contortionism, he
might be the best in the league. And so when
you get a quarterback who's playing confident, who's willing to
put it in tight windows, and a guy who can
do that for you, like that maximizes his skill set.

(37:55):
Cause like the thing I think, you know when he
was in Pittsburgh is like he had a bunch of
quarterbacks that wanted to see him open to throw it.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
And now Dak's like, I know he's not, yeah correct, yeah, different.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
And the thing about it is too he reminds me
of Kevin Johnson in his kitch.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Rady's interesting. That's an instinct comp yeah, yeah's.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Because he just the ball he caught on us last year.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Last year in the Rids, Okay, yeah yeah, I was like,
my I can't defend.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
It well, even the one that he caught against Latimore
this year earlier, right like that over the shoulder. Latimore's
hands are in his hands, like the strength and the
he's a it's a very unique skill set and he's
probably the best Fred would you say best in the
league at that Like.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Nobody can't do what he does at the kitch point. Yeah,
Like at the ktch point he has. It's not a ball,
it's an eighty twenty.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
He reminds me like of your true Like you know,
if you were doing your draft profile for receiver like
ten years ago, like your true X, Like big body,
not a great separator necessarily, but but it's going to
catch everything because he's bigger than you, right, and I
think that he like that's exactly what what the old
exposition used to be.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
It's changed a little bit of the last four years,
but that's what it is now.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
A hybrid between Calvin Justin and AJ Green. I like it.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's who he is.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Now, let's flip it to the defense of the Cowboys,
because since Quinn Williams got there, I feel like they've
been better and overshown to me is one of the
best linebackers in football right now.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And you got I.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Don't know if Bland gonna play in this game, but
you got your reveled over there starting to get the
real thing.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
I think they.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Got a nucleus for a great defense moving into future
over there.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
What say you?

Speaker 7 (39:37):
So, I think it's just like when you look at schematically,
like what they're doing, I'm not in love with.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, you say, like, just are they saying the personnel? Yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 7 (39:45):
What I'd say is like, I think their defensive front
has some pieces that gets you really excited, right. I
think you look at like a Diggie Zua. They paid
him a lot this offseason, Clark. You mentioned Quentin Williams,
like those three interier defensive tackles, like really pop for you?
The kid from more you bost some college. He has
some flashes again like inconsistent, but is a young talented

(40:06):
pass rusher. So I think you look at the front,
you say, all right, we got some pieces overshown you mentioned,
I'd kind of throw them in there.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
The other guys.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
Murray is the other linebacker that plays next to him,
might be the worst starting linebacker in the NFL, right,
Like that's kind of where he's at, Like, oh my gosh, dude.
Like the way he fits runs, the way he covers,
You're like, what are you looking at?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
What are you doing?

Speaker 7 (40:25):
And I think that really hurts the production of the
defense because then as you move back right, the back
end does not playing super not playing super consistent. So
I think, yeah, there is some talent in the front.
I think there are some young pieces like Revel from
where was Ecu? Yeah, like he's talented, but he's missing
a lot of tackles in the run game. He's still
learning some nuance at the position the second level. Right,

(40:46):
So there are some things personnel wise, you say in
a year or two that guy is going to be good,
but right now there's something Yeah, correct.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
But I see talent there.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I see buzz of talent.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
And then when I think in the back of my mind, oh,
these guys got four first round picks in the next
two years.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
So how many do they actually have? Because I know
they gave up a lot to get Quentin Williams there, right,
like they because they had the Michael Parsons trade, Yes,
and then they traded for Quentin Williams. And I remember
looking at the Quinton Williams trade. I don't know, and
if you can look this up for me real quick,
that'd be awesome. But the Quint Williams trade, I think
they gave up a first and a second for Quinton Williams.
And I like Quinton Million Williams as much as the
next guy, but that seems a little steep to me.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
No, I just think when you got a three technique
like that, there's gunishing double teams.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, so they give up yeah, so thank you. Anna.
So they gave up Mozzie Smith.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
No, but they give up a twenty twenty six second
round pick and they gave up a twenty twenty seven
first round pick.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
That's a lot, a lot. SOXT got three first round though. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
So that makes them danger Yeah, yeah, that makes them
totally dangerous. So can we I'll say that both teams
won in the Michael Parkson a straight.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
You know what is if Michael Parson doesn't get hurt,
I'd say Green Bay ran away with that thing, because
I think they're they're a legit super Bowl and I
think without him, it's it's just tips it. I think
that's the thing with Micah to put like a value
on it. He is probably the fifth most valuable non
quarterback in the NFL. So some thing about that, you know,

(42:23):
like of the of the you get the quarterbacks, your
top five quarterbacks, then you got like Miles Garrett, Michael Parsons,
Jamar Chase, Yeah, whoever you want to put in there,
Like he's in that group of guys that just is
a game wrecking presence. And so when you add him
into that defense the way he was calling it up
there in Green Bay, like there, I think they're they're
a super Bowl team. Yeah, And so I obviously get
sticked up and it doesn't work out.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
But I mean there's for you guys that you always
have to account for, right, And but he's the one
because even if he's not sacking you, he's on you
or he's disrupting you, he.

Speaker 7 (42:55):
Is breathing down your nick like the quick his ability
to create quick pressure is unparalleled. Yeah, So to me,
I would never have let him out the building, right,
But maybe he'd were not as welcome there and it
works out for both people to get all the draft capital.
But he's a difference maker in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Look at that. We come in, we talk a few movies,
some comedy, gets some football, and we did actually get
some actual football, and that's our guy. Thanks guys.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
This is always a fun enlightening show for me. You
guys have a fun little show.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Por break. Okay, now it's a oh.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
So Anna has decided to come up with some questions
about the holidays, including and this this involves Logan. So
who would you want to sit next to at Christmas dinner?
Who's a part of the Command Center podcast?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Who would you sit next to Command Center Podcast?

Speaker 7 (43:48):
Who?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Of course, people wait for me to say Logan.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
You're waiting to leave the room, you know. Let me
think about this. I think it might be Logan.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
I think it'll be interesting if me and Logan sit
beside each other at Christmas dinner, because it'll be nun
stop banter and we'll poke at each other and it'll
be Logan. Wife would probably get sick and kick me
out because tired of me and him acting like fifteen
year old over there. So it'll probably be Logan. Yeah,
I probably sit beside Logan.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Sitting next to Logan, hang out with him for a while. Yeah,
that'll probably be it.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Tanner likes to sit at the opposite table then me,
because you know it's gonna be some ruckus.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
At some point Tanne will shake it saying and be
like this dude, this dude.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
It's gonna said this dude, this dude. I'm gonna eat
my dinner in peace?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Why why would he?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Okay, this would be a good one.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
So at Christmas dinner, who is the twenty twenty five
pop culture icon you.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Would sit next to?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Timid?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
This?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Charla Maine, Charla Maine.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
All right, Charlamagne is the dude right now, right because
he was a nun actor that became an actor.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
He's a sports.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Fanatic and he knows sports. He knows sports. So it'll
probably be Scharla Maine. I probably cheer with.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Char La Maine. Uh, let me see who else I'll
probably kick it with.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I want to kick it with that couple that got
busted at the Coldplay come.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
To see wasn't worth it?

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Like?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Was it worth it? What's been going on? You know
we're going now?

Speaker 4 (45:28):
You know what, what if the other two, her husband
and the other person's wife. What if they started day
as a get back because of what happened? Well, I
think okay, should cold Play feel bad for that? Should
cold Play feel bad now putting them people out there back?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
No, you can cheat in peace.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
You can cheat him.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Know.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
If I were to sit next to anybody from pop culture,
I want to sit next to whoever started the six
seven oh chraze because I just want to like, I
want a word, I just want.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
To word stop it?

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Yeah, can we just can we do something about this?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
And it starts from like a hip hop song and
then someone took it and put it on techno.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
It was one of the one of the balls.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, I think it was like I think it was
like I don't know, we got so much use stuff coach,
I don't know actually was.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, he was rapper in the song. Somebody took the
six seven took that and it means nothing.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Sick. I hate it.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Did your kids get into I feel.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Any parent will tell you. I'm like, have you heard it?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Say there?

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Like I have kids, listen.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's just revolting.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
I want to throw up, Like it's one of them
things where I try not to be so parenty that
I can't take myself back to when I we was young, right,
I just feel like I stuff made sense.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
This truly does not like it had.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
The meaning is that it has no meaning, like it's
generated from somewhere, but it truly has.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
No I think in and out Burger took the number
sixt seven out of it.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yes, ordering thing because of this, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
I don't I think being a grown up, then why
they say that people like to hire young people because
the imagination is still there. Yeah, as an older person,
were all about does it make sense?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Right?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
And sometimes since saying what you should make of it?

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You know what you're thinking, you're going. I don't think
I was a stupid when I was a kid.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
But we were because you always, George, you judge a
generation by his toys. Okay, me and your generation we
had dumb toys. Like what all right, check this out, Frederick.
I bought you a pogo stick, go jump up and
down outside for hours and.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
You did it?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, just there, Yes, what's going on? My toys better
than your dumb toy?

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Dumb?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
We had dumb toys.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
But also it did force you, I will say, to
be creative like where you had to like come up
with something to entertain yourself because there wasn't a lot
of entertaining.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
All right, another dumb toy okay, the parachute soldier.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Oh yeah, I worried about half the time. Yeah, sometimes
it work and then something they just drop dropped out.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I'm throwing this this wax man up and he just
flowing down and I'm just watching him as he hit
the turf.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
He can only go as high as I could throw him.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
All right, dumb toys, all right, we had dumb toys
because we was not a small generation.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Well, who who was.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Your commander's player that you'd want to sit next to
you at Christmas dinner?

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Commander's player that I would. I'm looking for fun, okay.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
This is my thing with everything, So I'm looking for personality, okay,
in every aspect. Now, let me tell you. If you're
gonna sit down and eat with some people, they need
to be big, like big people. See then I always
bout my defensive line gifts on Christmas.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Smart always took care of him.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
I'm always about that group, and I like to talk,
so I want the other person to be quiet.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
You just need someone to listen to you.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Just listen to me the run and pain as we
sit here, and the rum.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
So he's easy.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, the pain is gonna eat.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
It, nod his head the whole time, not really say much,
and I'm just gonna talk the whole time, and the
rum pain gonna be forced to sit there and listen
to it. All right, did you call Ken Low? Well,
he ain't here yet. That's what I'm talking about. So
I'm gonna cheer with the defensive line.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
What say you?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
You know I want to sit next to Bobby Wagner
because yeah, I want to pick his brain, like I love.
I love a good conversation. Yeah, like it doesn't matter
who it's with. Like I love when people make me
think or oh that's interesting. Some has a story to
tell and a good conversation is hard to find. Are
truly good And he's very Walter Payton Man of the Year,

(50:06):
and he's a good dude, very real, round, very well.
Just got his degree, which is super interesting to me
because he has plans beyond football. I think someone who
has that many aspects to their personality is someone I'd
like to get to know.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
I take it back, I would rather be with Frankie
Luvu because it's a chair that he'll jump over the
dinner table.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
No, that is true.

Speaker 8 (50:25):
Yeah, Frankie Louver, I have had Bobby Wagner, but that's
because I wanted London also to sit next to me,
and I was thinking, I just want to listen to
the both of them talk.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Oh, it would be fascinating, the two old yellers.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I wanted to hear it too, Hall
of Famer.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
You know what. I cannot wait to Bobby pass his
log in London.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
No, oh no.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
In Tacas. It's gonna really do it.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
How far away is he? I think he likes eighty tackles.
He needs one more sixty tackles away. Maybe not many
tackles away. But I actually think it's gonna be good
for London.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Oh, you made a really good point about this.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
I think this is gonna shine that light on London.
So he get his jet desserts and Bobby get his
jet desserts. Yeah, alright, so I think it's gonna be
actually productive for London like that.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, top movie or TV character? Yes, mine? Yeah, who
would you want to sit here? Christmas tinner?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I'm going to Western roast. I knew you know, I'm
a Game of Thrones guy.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
So we're gonna have turkey legs with wood plates l
some of that Western roasts l some of that, some.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Of that red wine from Tiering Atlantisters.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
You know what I'm saying, take me to Western roast,
all right, especially now that The Adventures of Dunk and
Egg is gonna come out, you know. Oh yeah, you
know I'm a big Game of Thrones got so the
House of Dragons season two coming out, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Why not? I can just be sitting here like, hey,
he did this turkey leg up dragon. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
It's been to live fine right there now my leg.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I thought you were gonna say something related to Welcome
to Dairy.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
You know I love Welcome to Dead one of the
best shows out right now. It should get Academy Award.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Is there the name of the clown?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
It's penny Wise.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Oh Pennywise. That's right, I was, but it's the.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
History of penny Wise. Put it like this.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Everything that Stephen keenan rowe yep is messhiage in the.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
House of There.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Oh interesting?

Speaker 4 (52:24):
So the Shining Yes, all right, the dude that plays
in the shining is in Welcome to Day. Really, Yes,
he's in the military and wicked the dairy and he
has his shining ability. He uses it against Penny Wise. Interesting,
so it all ties everything Stephen king in it. If
you hain't seen Welcomed the Dairy, you're missing it.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
It's so good.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
Oh okay, mine, Okay, this is a little bit of
a unique and personality thing. So I think i'd have
Elizabeth Bunnett from Pride and Prejudice.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Okay, my god, I love Jane Austin.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
I'm a big Jade Austin fan, so that's probably him. Ou.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
I just think I wish I had like four hands
so I can give you foote thumb down.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
I was kind of like, I don't know who i'd picked,
so that was my go to.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
All the people in the world. I think I would
love to eat dinner with Brad.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Pitt, would you like?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
I used to have that Brad.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Pitt jall live when I first got to the league,
so I would like.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I was trying to think. I think got made a
mistake of things just in the past year.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
Oh okay, that's kind of partially my bad.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Because at all, No, it's just me because but I
was thinking, but you know, who have you seen the
Beast in me?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
With Matthew Reese and Claire Danes.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
So it's so and Matthew Reese, who is such a
good actor, like his evil in that in that series
is so well done, Like I'd want to sit next
to him almost like in character. I love when people
can like fall into like watching greatness, Like we're talking
about like how.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Are you able to get lost in.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
To get lost in a character so much where you're
that believable? Because like when Will Smith back in the day,
like I like Will Smith, but I was always like
I feel like I'm watching William right Will Smith is
Will Smith as like it's like always Will Smith. I'm
like when I see someone totally lost them because I
followed his careers in the Americans, I'm like, this level

(54:20):
of evil and the way you're portraying this character is unreal.
I want to sit next to him and just be like,
Adam Sandler, this is my dude.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
I love that, like from like what what what movie?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
He plays? Click?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Have you ever seen?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Did you go to Click as a reference and you've
never seen Click? No?

Speaker 5 (54:46):
Sorry, I'm sorry, I live under a rock.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
No, we just is it Adam Sandler.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
To me, it's a genius because he's made it through Hollywood,
first of all, not being Hollywood at all.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Now.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Second of all, he said, I'm gonna be Adam Sandler.
I don't care what y'all do. I'm gonna show up
to the awards and Jim Shortz and a hoodie because
I'm going hooping after this.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Uh. He just feet on the ground.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
I love people feet on the biggest test of a
man is who are you when you feel and get success?

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Do you be defined by the success? Are you still
defined as who you are? That's the biggest test of
a man. Adam Sandler has passed that test with flying colors.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Well, you know it's interesting too if you look at
his his crew, especially from back in the day, like
Norm McDonald, Rps Farley, David Spade, Rob Schneider, those guys
if you've ever seen them together, they all defer to
the Sadman because he is taking care of them, like
looked out for them as far different roles, had them
in his movies, and they're all like, well, this is
the guy. Yeah, because he's had the biggest career, but Also,

(55:53):
he's always looked out for.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
He looked out for the same Yes, guys, no.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Matter how big his films got, these same guy Adam Senttler.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
But if it was a family, it'll be the Wayne's
family because I'm gonna laugh at the whole time.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
I was watching some oldly living color episodes the other.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Day, So they conduced most of the stuff that they need,
like because it had no filter at that time, you
could attack anybody. Everybody was open for business at the time.
That's right, nobody was safe.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Top what's the top three? Yeah, top three Christmas movies.
This will be up now. I know we're gonna agree
on what's gonna say.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Die Hard, Yes, which most people say. Die Hard is
not a Christmas movie.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
It's true.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
So how do you define it?

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Well, you said something. I think Macaulay Culkin said this.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
He said, it's not a Christmas movie, it's a movie
doing Christmas during Christmas.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yes, I don't know, like and he makes a very
good point, but you can't separate the two. It's hard.
I get it.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
It's like it's not made about Christmas. There are certain
movies that they are definitely all about.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Christ flew to the city because it was Christmas, right,
So when I think about home alone, it's sort of
in that same vein.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
I alright, Top.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Three is a Christmas movie.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
It is, but.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
It's a Christmas movie about a child getting left on
Christmas and then.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
The Christmas spirit happens and everybody comes.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
No, then criminals breaking the house and he tortues them.
Like that's what it is. Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
That's kind of how but I mean it definitely leans
into Christmas a lot more than my heart.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
All Right, I'm more nostalgic.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Okay, all right, I love I guess this it was
filmed in h I love the old Rudolph the red
Nosed rein Deer.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah, yeah, great one, yes with the puppets.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Yeah, because it has this it takes me back to
my childhood makes me feel a certain way. So watching
that movie, even though it looks terrible on flash green
tea right now, because of what it was filmed in.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
But that's what makes it great.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
That what makes it great, So that one does it
for me, that's like a must watch for me.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Like when I go favorite movies, I like, what do
I have to watch? Now?

Speaker 4 (58:16):
I'm a big wheel Faraoh, Guy, Elf, right up there,
Elf is there, Elf is there. Elf will never leave
because will pharh more cow bills? All right, more cow bills.
One of the funniest comedians of my gui.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
Yeah, I had home alone Elf, and then the Holiday,
which is a wrong call, not kind of wrong.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
We have to watch the Holiday every year. We'll be
doing it in the next four hours we watch it.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
It's so Yeah, I love that. I love that movie.
Have you seen a friend?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Christmas vacation is one of my vacation is good. Yeah,
I like vacation. I like funny.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
I like the lad like a Charlie Brown Christmas too
old school?

Speaker 4 (58:57):
But well, who is your favorite challenge Charlie Brown character?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Because me is pig Pin, because he was always feeled.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
You would like pick Pin. He was fieltered.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
She don't even know who pick Pin?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I do?

Speaker 5 (59:08):
I remember?

Speaker 6 (59:08):
I remember like they always had the illustration.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Or yeah, did he stank? Everywhere you go?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (59:13):
We all got a friend like Bluefoot everywhere we go.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
If you could make one Christmas song go away forever?

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Oh easy? I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus worse.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yeah, pump pum, pump.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Him getting rid of it. I want to go not one.
I won't it goe. I listen to me. I don't
have to listen to that ever again? I ever again?
Do I have to listen to that?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I remember the first time I heard.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
That, I was like Little Drummer Boy.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Yes, little Drummer Boys. H never be like the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Justin Bieber rendition of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Oh, I don't think I've heard that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yeah, we're out of it, just bib version. But no,
the song stinks like sometimes we got to just tell
the truth. Like just because it goes with a holiday,
does it. We talked about fruit Kate earlier. Because it
goes with the holiday doesn't make it right. Rumble pump
the Little Drama Boy, what's what he got to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Do with Christmas?

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
I feel like I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
No, people used to put the Little Drama Boys on
the Christmas tree. That's true, that's where that song came from. Yeah,
but it's the worst song. What about you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I mean, I'm gonna be a hater. It's not the song,
but it's the person. It's not the songs a person,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I know everyone loves Mariah and the song, and the
song is good, but the saturation of the song makes
every year, every Christmas, she wouldn't have if she if
that was the only song she ever made, she'd be
for a lot because every every year Chris got more popular.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I can say I actually enjoy that song.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
It's a good song.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
It makes me feel warm inside.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
But it's man, it's like everyone pulls it out immediately
and they just want to like just repeat. Yeah, it's repeat.
It's not the song itself. It's a great song, but
I'm like, man, you're gonna hear it, like ah, a
thousand times during christ That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Like you open prises to Mariah, you understand, Yeah, Like
if you don't have background music. I got to sit
the scene for my kids. I had a music playing,
had the Hot Coco being made, I had everything the
way it is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
And Maria, you got to be on the playlist, dude, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I know, just not like every three songs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Then I got the Temptations on there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
I got, yeah, I got, I got, I got this playlist,
this Christmas place.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
I do love Christmas. And then I spreaking in a
little young jeezy in there. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
You like being crossed you keep it rich in.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
There, honorable mention, say it. I want a hippopotamus for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Oh Cla.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
I had to do a ballet dance to that one.

Speaker 6 (01:02:15):
I've not a classic for me, and it was just
over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Catherine saging out of karaoke last week, Oh she did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
She crushed people like wow, we randomly found ourselves. We
were out having drinks in the city and we were
sitting there and we heard like people singing, and we
were at the bar and we're like, is there karaoke
up there? And they're like, yes, we went up there
and sing a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
You know. I used to be pulling of a Carolin group.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
A Carolin group.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
I used to go house to house Carolyn singing, like
knocking on people doing. Then we just bust out singing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Were you popular in the neighborhood?

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
I was, would you join my Christmas caroling group?

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
I'll do it, Yes I will. If you're Carolyn, I
go with you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
You know, we ain't got but two days we.

Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
Got pretty quickly, like listen, you could be the Dobell
ringer that because that's the most dango, that's the guy
that's in the most you know, yeah danger right, that
guy that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Push because he gotta normally push the dobell.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
He gotta get back to the rest of Get ready
to gotta get back to us and get.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Ready to see because when they open the door. Yeah,
we got to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Be mit verse.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Give a cut water confession for you, did I Carol who?
We've covered it all on to get my podcast as
we always do.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Happy holod Days and holidays. May you kiss under the
missle toe. May you get all the presents that you need.
Do not play little drama boy. Alright, lord, I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Mommy kissing Santa Claus and it's tired of hearing that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
And please listen to Maric care but doses.

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