October 15, 2025 • 53 mins
The fellas recap the heartbreaking loss to the Chicago Bears with the help of Dr. Smoot. Next, they discuss Dak Prescott and the Cowboys as the Commanders look to knock off their bitter rivals down in Dallas. Get Your Commanders Tickets Here: https://bit.ly/3SpwKU3 Hosts: Logan Paulsen, Santana Moss, Fred Smoot Producer: Jason Johnson The views and opinions expressed by our analysts and/or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's episode The Command Center Podcast. Man, I'm not
(00:02):
feeling very good. We're all very very good. But we
got doctor Smoon in the house and he's got the prescription.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, I have the cure.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
So that's our Bears recap.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
And then we got an eye exam also with jayde
Daniels Verse Caleb Williams can yeah, we'll see. And then
we got the Dallas Cowboys preview, and then we got hell.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, hell no.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It all starts right now. Welcome to The Command Center Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Saintana Mousin.
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You know what I do is I'm watching on my phone.
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If I'm watching on my phone, that's the thing that
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:41):
Correct, Yes, use your phone.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So guys, I'm not feeling very good, kind of feeling sick. Pain,
and I think we need to go to the doctor's
office pain.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And so today we're gonna do bears recap and it's
doctor's orders. Man, we got to go in. You know
what is it? Urgent care, I see you pain.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And so we're gonna start off with We're gonna start
off with what hurts, what ails us to in order
to fix it, we got to start off with the
thing that's kind of giving us the most pain, the
most discomfort.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Fred I guess I'll start right for it right now.
Glooty is maximus.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I was thinking something completely different.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I thought you'd say, man, it was tough, you know,
watching the turnover and they're like, no, just your glutes
are hurting glutes.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Listen to me, pain. We know the new term that
the youngsters use. Built to gluedy is maximus. Why just
say the word, you know what politically correct? You see that,
we know what they feel like. I listen to me,
it's it's one thing for a team to come take
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something from you, but when you give it to them.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But that's what I'm saying, Like when you say, you know,
belt to glutes, I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It's it's it's a it's it's a whoop. It's a whooping.
This kind of felt like we were like, hey man,
but that hurts you more to me. But that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But it's not it's not built to glue in the
Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
But it wasn't that though it was live a belt.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
It was more like that parent that don't beat you.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I'm disappointed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You got you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I kind of liked that, Tanna, Yeah, because it it
did feel that way. It felt like, as I remember
in the third quarter, I was texting with my wife.
She's getting to go to bed, and I said, you know,
I think we're gonna win this game, because I felt
like all the momentum was the defense had been playing
pretty good, and then all of a sudden, there's you know,
mistackle on that racks, and then obviously the turnover late,
and it just felt like we kind of gave.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It away play.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It kind of felt like I was walking, I just
bought my dinner. I was walking to go sit down,
and you dropped and I tripped and it fell all.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's kind of what it felt like.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
It felt like the true thing that I was saying
early on my other shows.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It felt like what other show, Yeah, my post game.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Shows, get loud, right, get loud.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Just here check it out.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So here go think about it.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You know how you get up in the middle of
the night, you go into the bathroom, while you go
into the kitchen and you stump your toe edge and
it takes you to your knees.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's what this pain. It's avoidable. You just wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You weren't crossing your teen's, you weren't doing your eyes
and guess what now that pain, one of the smallest
things in the world, has brought us six six, two
hundred and seventy pound men, you down to your.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
To your knees. It felt like that to me.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, so Fred's glues hirt, Dannel. What hurts for you?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh man, it hurts my heart? Is it indigestion?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Actually? Yeah? What is? It? Honestly like one of those
heartaches that you know you can get over it, but for.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
This moment she left you, but you know you desire
to be left.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
It hurts, you know, And it's crazy because the way
I describe it watching.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
The game, it wasn't something that she did. Yeah, it
was something.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
That that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, no, no, that's good. I know what you saying.
She ain't hurt me. She ain't hurt me.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I hurt me. And my heart hurting.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Because if I just didn't do what I.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Did, yeah, we'll be it'll be a good spot right now,
all right.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So that's that's that's how I feel, and that's why
that's why I know I can get over it, because no,
all I'm gonna hurt because damn, I let a good
one go.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Hopefully hopefully she comes back. If not. I know, I
have to not do what I did last time the
next time.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think for me, it's the it's the pain of regret,
you know what I'm saying. That's what hurts, the regret
of it. You know what I'm saying it because like
we've all, I have better part of games like this.
I know you guys have two where it's like, man,
we were the better team, we were the better team
and we and we just dropped it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, we were the better team, we had the better
game plan, we did everything right. That's the only thing
that hurts. The coaches put in the right game plan.
We we put we gave the right effort, we made
the right plays, and we still lost.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And with all that being said, when I look at
the situation of the game before the game start. You know,
I always say, y'all, guys, I have feelings and I
and I sometimes.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I feel like premonitions.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, like I have them, and sometime I speak it
or sometime I want because I don't want what I'm
feeling to put I don't want to put.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It in there.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You don't want to project it.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, when the weather was looking like it was looking pregame,
it's like, bro, this is this is benefiting them, not
us because you want them to you want them to
be fair. It was fair, but you wanted you want
them to be to the point to where fast track
a team that's not playing well in certain situations, especially defensively.
You know, we know what they can do with turnovers,
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and you don't want to go into a game that's
with Yeah, a team that's great turning the ball over,
you see what I'm saying. Yeah, So I feel like
going into the game just the conditions alone was favoring them.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Even though that both of us had to go out
there and hold on to the ball.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
But I feel like for a team like them, you
own the road at somebody else's home, who feel like
they can capitalize on certain things. This might slow them
down and we have the advantage. And that's just that's
just me, you know what I mean. I can't put
that out there on anybody else, but that's just me.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So we talked about what hurts now, it's talking now
something to talk about what led to that hurt And
for me, it's just like fundamentals, right, did we tackle well?
Are we in our gap on defense? Are we protecting
the football? You know what I'm saying, are we being
good on third down? And when you kind of check
those boxes of it's like, man, you get that exposed
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to play the swiftly off of mistackle. There a couple
of those, like going back and watching the run stuff today,
like guys are like, this is the thing that's tough.
It's guys are playing hard, but are they in the gap?
Are they playing back?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
And it's and that's the small things.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The small things, right, and again small things in the
NFL lead to big things, right, Yeah, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I think those are something.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And then also just not protecting football offensively, like we
put the defense in tough spots and they had our
back at multiple junctions there like you know, short field
held them to three to two field goals. Like that's
big time stuff, but ultimately, like ultimately it didn't work out.
So I think it's it's like the stuff you learned
day one of of Pop Warner.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Igo a symptom you store it slow, you slow, and
we stole it slow.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Like I know this is I don't want to put
you on the spot, but why do you what do
you think that is?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I don't know. I don't have a good reason we.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Didn't play it on teams. It's not really a correlation
to we stole slow. It's just this the game flow right,
and just how it was last year.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
It wasn't It wasn't something that you can just put
your hand on. While we were starting so good last year,
why we finished so well last year.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It was just one of the things. It's about.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
The momentum was just shifting and we was riding that wave.
Right now we're riding the opposite wave. We're riding something
that we don't want to be on, but we know
how to respond when we get there.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's the same.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Pattern, but we knew how to respond.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
And you said to yourself, if you really don't if
you think about it, last night, we really didn't start slow.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's how I look at it. Last night wasn't a
slow start.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
We drove down the field and and our defense went
out there and they being but they didn't break. They
gave us a chance to go out there and get
on top. So I don't look at last night as
stars slow. But when you look at us being down
by thirteen, then you look at and say, man, we
slow stopped, but we had two turnovers.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I think it's more of last year. We was more
Mike Tyson than Floyd Mayweather. All we was more proactive
than reactive. To me, now it feels like we're reacting
and not pro acting. We're not on the attack. We
more defensively. Like the one thing about Floyd Maywell, he's
a counterpuncher. But to be a counterpuncher, I need to
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see what you're gonna do for almost take a punch. Yeah,
I have to see how you're gonna attack me, so
then I can counter you. Instead of being we're going
forward every fourth down, we're doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It seemed like we had a Mike Tyson like edge.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
But with all that being said, and Logan probably wanted
the best at when he does this and breaking stuff
down and helping you see things the way he see it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What you say, you see it with your own eyes.
But when he said it, you be.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Like, oh, now I know what's going now, Okay. Because
Logan pointed it out last night, I felt like Logan
was in my head because I was saying to myself, Wow,
it's how crippled we are as offense. Like we was
getting in sets where I saw, Oh, there's nobody to
go to. This don't work where we going. Yeah, you
see what I'm saying. So that's when you really put
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into context. Man, this team is really overachieving because of
the lack of what we have as playmakers. And that's
not nothing at nobody, it's just when you have have
a lot of firepower, teams have to respond defensively panically.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
We have to minimize what we want to do and
almost playing to the hand. And I saw that time
and time again with just different formations that we was
getting ourselves into.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And so I'm glad you brought up that proactive, reactive element, Fred,
because I think there you feel some of that. But
I also think because of the offensive situation, Terry's hurt,
Noah Brown.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Sam cos me our least things.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah and again, like.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
There's two new offensive line starters since week one. Like
and again, those guys are playing good ball. And I
think the guys on the outside are playing good ball.
But it's We've been in NFL locker rooms and there's
a difference. And I'm the first one to tell you this.
I was a third string tight end. I'll tell you
if the first if Jordan Reid got hurt and I
had to go run routes, the offense is in a
tough spot, you know, Like that's just how it is.
(11:47):
You know what I'm saying. There's a different skill set
between that first and third guy versus the second guy.
And so while you love the competitiveness, the toughness those
guys are playing with, like there are NFL football players,
there's a reason Terry's making what is he fifty million
dollars whatever he's.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Making, because he's up excellently, because he's a different caliber.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
But it's not even about it's not even about those guys.
It's about when you see the scheme, it's minimized because
of the guys.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's not nothing on the guys.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I can tell from the naked eye when you see
like that ain't our best. That ain't my best formation
for a play to be made.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
But we have to run it.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
But we don't got because of what we what the
lack there is you know what I mean, players or
play makers. So nothing against nothing, No, I mean nobody
out Like I said it last night a couple of
nights ago too. You got a Jersey on and you
got a number, you're working, go out there.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And dudes, you gotta those guys made plays.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But it's just I think it's the frequency kind of
what it does to the offense. Just it feels different.
So again, like I think that's what the productive reactive
thing fred I think is good. I think the fundamental
football thing is also important.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
But all that being said, all those symptoms, Yeah, like
we should have still to a head chance.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
That's the thing that gets me again, why am I why?
It's the pain of regret For me, it's like.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
So, what's the cure to the pain of regret? What's
your cure to fix it?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So I look at it and I say to myself, well,
you know, Joe widd Junior said something last week where
he's like, don't put on capes, and everyone assumed that
applied to coverage, right, And I thought the coverage group
played much better this week. Don't put on capes. They
played better the week before, Right, they didn't put on capes.
Just do what they're supposed to do. I felt like
watching the run tape this week, guys are trying to
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put on capes. Guys are trying to play back guys
are trying to play out. They're trying to make every tackle,
and it's like, sometimes you just got to bury your
head on this block and fit this gap.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Take the right shoulder, take the like, do the things
that like set your teammate up. Like sometimes you don't
make the play, but they don't mean you ain't make
the play, Like I made the play for my guy
to make the play a right.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I saw that in the college football game this past
weekend where I don't know if it was a back
off quarterback to hit the outside. There's two guys going
to make this play if you just go outside because
you the outside guy take on that block. He has
to cut back feet but guess what, both guys went outside,
and when he cut back, he went by himself. So
I'm sitting there like, bro, both of y'all can't be
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on the same plane. See what I'm saying, Like, that's
common sense. That's football. One on one, let's tackling, that's
that's fitting the gap. Well, whatever you want to call it,
one on one, Like, you take that one because he.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Gonna come back to me.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, And so I think that to me, like that
would be the first thing to take care of because
I think Joe Wood Junior's had a really good plan
on third down. I think they're pressured well. I think
guys have covered well. I think versus this team, you
wanted them to be in third long and so just
on first second time. Like, I know, it's simplistic. I
know it's derivative. Do your job, it's boring, it's not
always the funnest thing. Do what you're supposed to do.
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I think that'll clean up some of that early first
and second down stuff. Yeah, and put you in better
situations defensive. And this is again also to be said,
they held this team to sixteen points well within of
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
No, no, yes, that means you forced him to take
three no matter what, you're taking their best punches.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And so despite that criticism, like, I still think they
played well. You know, you see Ken Law, you see
pain Rash. Newton's playing well, right, I think Kwan Martin
this is again, no, he played well. I thought he
had a really good game outside of one.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Missing that tackle on the sideline.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You know what's so crazy about that tackle because we've
been talking about it and when they teams are taking
what other teams do.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That was the option, right.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
He said that he tried to play back on it,
but when they got there, and that's why he ended
up bumping into a lot more because he was he
was thinking, all right, Finn, set me up, and when
I play over the top or if I come all
the way out, he's going to break in. And so
he played under, trying to play back, and the guy
just gave him like, all right, I'm take that out.
And then and by that time he just oh man,
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he thinking like, man, let me get here. By that time,
you beat But at the end of the day, this
this is one thing, and this is not not to
Kwan directly, to Kwan defensively as a whole. When I
got a guy on the sideline, I forget the ball,
forget the tackle.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I'm getting you out of bound. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I don't know that friend, I'm gonna lose that throwing
at you and making you, you know, either go out
of bound or have to cut back and let somebod
else get you. And I just hate to see us
in that situation time and time again. I feel like
this this year already, we've seen a lot of guys
break tackles or we miss guys on the sideline when
the sideline is our friends.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I think I think that's an NFL wide problem exactly
well tackling, because let's be honest, compared to and this
is now, we sound like dirty old men because we finish, say,
back in our day, but back in our day we
did real training camps. Back in our day, we made
it to the season already, callus, we made it to
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the season.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
My pants was already dirty because I've.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Been tackling Santana for three weeks in training camp.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It's just a different carry out.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But it's funny.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Like obviously, like I think there's marriage to what you're saying, Fred,
but I also think that like Kwan has been one
of the better tackles.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
No, he's been slid.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
That's what I'm why you kind of kind of scratch
your head, like when you see him in that situations.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like it's like when you see Terry drop a ball,
You're like, that's not you.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Never And I can I can also point at it
saying that's when you see guys trying to make a
play because they give him.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Up a play.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
You see what I'm saying, Like this finish it because
right now he's he caught the past.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, so this finished the play.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And I will say this about the defense man, I
thought they did a really good job. And I know
this is hard to talk about a loss, but they
did a good job of saying, hey, we gave up
an explosive play.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
We're going to defend every blade of grass.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
So like they give up that big cross to the
burden and then they get him a third down, they
take that weird sack and then they kick a field
goal and it's like, you won, good job. You put
the offense in position to win this football game for you.
So it was weird. It was weird watching the film
this morning, being like, man, like this is good.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Here's like one bad play, but.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
That one bad play dictates the game. It changes the
floor of the game, It changes the momentum of the game,
it changes the mindset of the game.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You were West Phillips, Tenna.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
He was a titand coacher Phil So I remember at
a game where I graded out really really well, really
really well, but I had a fumble in a two
minute situation that led to a touchdown, and he said
all players are not created equal.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
They not.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And I think like that That's that to me is
the you know, the ultimate like symptom or explanation of
this game is all plays are not created equal, and
we messed up on big or the team messed up
on big ones.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And the critical play correct. It's sounds when you couldn't
afford to you just can't afford it, Like you can't
afford the fumble. Everything shambled.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And because even if you pick it up, yes and
you punted, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Win, you win. You have a better chance because now
you just gave him the ball at the fifty yard line.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
They don't need but tend you know what to get
in field goal, right, it changes.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The whole move.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Now you got to use all your timeouts. Now you're like,
it's a calls in a fit because this happened. Now
to fix this and now I have to take a
whole different way and a whole different pattern to try
to get to this win.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It changed everything.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, absolutely so in terms of cure, I think there
is some technical things that could cure, right, I think cannacia.
I think also like getting healthier offensively will help with
some stuff. Because, like Tanna said, there's times where you're
watching and you're like like team, the Bears were smart.
We're gonna give them their credit, right, they came out
and said, we're gonna play man. We're gonna play it
man boxes, we're gonna wind, You're going to running the ball,
(19:25):
I mean the ball.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
We're gonna line sign on first down.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And we think our coverage guys match up really well
with your playmakers. And I think as we get healthier,
I think that'll help kind of add some dynamism to
that grier.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Although, and this the only reason why I pointed out
what I saw as a receiver. Twenty six should have
been exploited. I don't know who that guy is. I'm
not gonna say his name, but he should have been exploited.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He more had it.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
If you go back and watch the tape and tell
me if I'm wrong, watch more run routes on him,
even when he wasn't getting the ball thrown his.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Way, beating him, beating them to a pope.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
And I'm like, if we got a guy who they
trust a little more, Yeah, I don't know who they
throwing at him, were gonna do something different, you go
check to it, but we didn't. We didn't feel like
we had that luxury you see what I'm saying, And
I'm not saying we did.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm not saying I know what was going on.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I felt that watching him give up so much room
on Hi'm talking about brother, you off ten yards at
times and taking everything thinking everything is going deep.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
We could a rank come back, curl in all day
on them.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
But when you don't have the luxury, when you don't
feel like you're comfortable with the guys, then you don't
call these Well, nobody ever talked about this, but Debo
in that he'll yeah, I watched it. Yeah, he wasn't
running like regular Devail Washington, So now your number one.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Target is limping into the game. That we did have
a zach Ertz side.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
But that's why I said, I'm so happy that the
guys did make the plays that was throwing that way,
because that gives the coach more say, Okay, I could
trust them a little more, you know, And then, like
I said, too, it could have been a condition.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You know, Hey, I'm already have to put this.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Guy out here because of our situation or our circumstance.
Do I want to risk a third down that particular person, yeah,
or setting up something so I can get erch the ball.
You know what I mean, because I saw a player
too when we was in the we had one receiver.
We want to throw the arth's back, but they covered them.
Well yeah, so now you got like, who I gotta
throw the ball away because I only got another guy
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backside and I was on front side already.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yea, yeah, Okay, So I think that's that kind of goes.
I feel better after going to visit the doctor a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Healed you already heal me, but like you know.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
What I'm saying, but I'm saying it's not healed. But
you know, we're starting the road to recover. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
But I think this is an important thing. We kind
of alluded to it here a little bit. Is jayde
Daniels or Caleb Williams And yeah, after this game, a
lot of people in the national media talk about I'll
keell you what Williams is going to.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
The show and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh my god, and Prince of Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And so I guess I'll start it off as like
when you go watch y'all twenty two, Jaydeon Daniels just
makes the right play often sick of nature. Yeah, and
I'm not a big PFF guy. I think grades are
a little bit up and down for me. But Jane
Daniels comes out of this grade, out of this game
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with a seventy eight PFF grade out of one hundred,
Kayleb Williams comes out with a forty six. And I
think when you watch the game, you feel the discrepancy
in play. And so what I mean by that is
like Caleb Williams took two of the craziest sacks I've
ever seen take them.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, Frankie Louvu. They won with Frankie Louvo. What was
he doing? Yeah, No, Caleb has these blind spots.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And I don't want to be so again, I don't
want to sound like I'm coming down hard on Kilb.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think he's a good player, but I think.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
When you compare them, like you get those two kind
of crazy sacks, there's two balls that should have been
picked off that weren't picked off.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I think should have picked him.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It was a third one, right, and so obviously like
you're not you don't throw an interception on those plays.
But I think when you look at me, say he
for whatever reason, there are these moments where it's like.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That's the lapse.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
It's in Judge, yeah, right, And Jayden seems to be
smooth through that transition, like we're shocked when he makes
a mistake, like when he threw that pick early in
the game.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And I'll be honest with him, miss and I'll be
honest with you, like live when I saw that, I
was like, I don't hate that because it's cover three.
It's all go special, like that's that's the spot you
want that ball to go. And again like are you
maybe being too aggressive? Sure, get that ball to the flat, right,
I understand that, But like in the moment, like if
I'm coaching the high school, like the myigh school quarterback
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and he tries to rip that, I'm like, that's the
right thought.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Cover three. You're on a hook player, Let's try.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
To rip that in try to get it up to
scene and uh and again like it gets picked off,
and so you're kind of like, that's the that's the
price doing business. And if you say, oh, you know,
let's get to the flat next time. But I didn't
hate it in the moment, you know what I mean.
So I don't know I just to me, it's a
they're both good players. I just think Jayden's decision like
That's the other thing is like there's times where there's
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concepts like Panna was talking about that are dead in
the water. They've covered them well, they're in zone coverage,
there's a hook player under the cross or whatever it is,
and Jaye Daniel scrambles for ten yards and you're just
like that ability to consistently make that decision, yeah, is
next level.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
And to me, I think that's why you always kind
of lean on the side of what Jayden does because
even in that time of not having anything, the right
decision was to get all I can get instead of
trying to make something out of nothing. You see what
I'm saying. And don't get me wrong, because I'm high
on both.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Of the guys.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I think Caleb still went out there and got to
you know, did what he can do. But there was
at times when they had three and outs or had
to punt the ball or had to kick a field goal.
When you pressured him, it was different. You saw panic.
You see what I'm saying, You pressuring Jaden, It's almost
like I know you didn't because now I'm in a
slip one two.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I'm gonna get out here.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I'm gonna see it my guy in the flat open,
or I'm gonna see somebody downfield. If I don't have it,
I could go out run your fastest guy and get
ten yards out of this, you know what I mean.
So that's that's how I look at it. But you
always say that on this set we're gonna be biased.
But when you bring up the national media, the national
media to me is they ride on just.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Who who had the better who won the game? You
know who?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
You know you look at it, and that first thing
they say, Oh it's not you gotta think this guy
overcame this and that. Yeah, but we if we just
do what we had to do, we won that game
with him doing all that. So carnival, I'm gonna be
the biased guy there and stick over here with my guy.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
That's what the national media is. It's a carnival. It's
Steve you put up in his flashing lights and it's
this big spectacle when it's nothing in the long term,
it's a lot of minuitia. We gotta go with the
hot thing, and right now the hot thing is the
quarterback who was pick number one in this draft who
we thought was the fourth best quarterback might be the
first best quarterback. No, he just finally got an office
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coordinator that knows how to call the offensive screen someplaces
I gotta get big juston his product.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Some stuff up.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Bro, he died, he was and he had two weeks
to do think about And that's a great point now.
I said that inside the sweet that and I'm like, look, bro,
with two weeks to do it, you see what they're doing. Yes,
they was finding them, and it was at times if
there was a drop or just a misread away from
it being well, no rumor duodes.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
They supposed to add to one hundred and.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Fifty yards running right now, So it was it was
just time where he was just whipping them with the pin,
all right. And when I watched Caleb play, it's a
little erradic. It's a little radic at the time where
Jade seems to be a little bit more smoother and
polished and situational.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
But you can't lose with they in one of these guys.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I think if you got one of these guys, you
got a chance.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
But with Jade, it's just a groundness.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Two weeks, it's a trust that I think he even
built up with it some more mature play.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
That's what I look at it as.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah, I feel like when I'm watching both of those
guys talented at what they do. But I look at
Jayden like you beyond your years emotionally, you know what
I'm saying. All that in the buck, you beyond his years.
Then you see a young you see you can see
the youth in Taylor, meaning that, hey, you can play
this game, no question, you can throw that thing, you
can do, all that stuff that you do, you can add.
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But I see when he's he's I guess you can
say affected, Like I can see it in him.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The walk, the way he walked.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
To everything like that would affect me as a receiver
watching my quarterback do that, do some of those things.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Because I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I'm even in my worst, I'm calm because I'm like,
don't let that bother you, Tenna, don't let that affect you. Yeah,
we all gonna you know, you know, they beat man.
He gonna show you. But guess what, that's it. Get
back there, Let's get back right. I see that I
see that guy be beat to the sideline on the bench,
he's sit different like you is showing the team that
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you affected.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You can't show that at times.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
So that's the only thing that bothers me when I'm
watching because I'm watching closely because I'm, you know, being
a receiver. You watch quarterbacks how emotionally if you yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I think that's the other point that I just want
to piggyback on, friend, and then we'll move on. Is
I feel like Ben Johnson's elevating Caleb right, like he's
hiding some of Caleb's deficiencies. And in this game, I
think Cliff has done a great job since Jadan's been
here of elevating Jayden. But in this game, I felt
like Jayden elevated, elevated elements of the offense. And you know,
it's like when zach Ertz after the game says, like,
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what are you talking about? Like we wouldn't be anywhere
without Jayden.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
One.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I love that he's sticking out for his quarterback. Two
I think there's an element of truth to that. I
think he really drives this thing.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
This thing he allows you to cale fly and plays
and they don't look and to meet that alone just
shows you how up and down the media are yeah,
you messed one play and then oh my god, yeah,
you know, and.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
He won about what how many game he won last year? Yeah,
well you can say he won. Yeah, what I'm saying
we won't. We won't have a chance to win him
without him.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, yeah, So I think that's going to do it
for our recap of the Bears game. Ready to move
on mostly, but in the meantime, place and.
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
You're trying to get all intimate with the All right,
so now it's time for our Dallas Cowboys preview. Yeah,
and I think we'll start on the offensive side of
the football. Maybe we'll do both together, but basically the
Cowboys offense when you watch them sick.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
First of all, let me tell you something, boy, skinny
Deck All right?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Is he skinny?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Now he's skinny again. Let me tell you something bout Deck.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
When he leans on his legs more, he opens that
whole outfense.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
But he's not like running more scram.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
It's an option now. It wasn't an option of a
year ago. It went't an option the year before that.
When he came into this league. He ran his way
into this league. He didn't throw his way into this league.
He developed into this precision throw. Now he understands, I
need to get at least two third downs a game
with my feet. I don't care if it's two yards,
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ten yards, whatever it needs. When he starts to do that,
it opens up everything. The game has slowed down for him.
George Picking is a animal unleashed out there.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
He's not like super consistent. But when he goes off,
it's like here's like a buck fifty at a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's what he do. Javonte Williams has been that dude.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
He's like like been like he's like, what is that reborn?
He's like rejuvenated, new.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Place, new face.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That's what you get, right That offense Ferguson like they
are moving the chains. They're one of those offenses that
when you really look at them on paper, they ain't
really got what you call a weak spot, like they
get the offensive line. I thought they playing their butt
off because I thought that would be the week spot
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coming into the year. But they ten, They got playing
their butt off. The option is going on the defensive side,
but on the offense. One of the most potent offenses
in the NFL right now, the Dallas Cowboys offense.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
They're potent.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I think it's scary too, man, when you look at it,
because you know that just watching these guys for the
last few weeks and it almost reminds me it almost
resembles when I was playing against them. He used to
always say, man, they had the defense. And then right
after I left, Dan Quinn comes years later and the defense,
they go twelve and four like three years, or they
win twelve games and more the next three or four
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years while he's there. That's what I'm looking at now.
It's almost like that in the offense, back to hitting
on all cylinders. They can run the ball. Dak is
playing phenomenal. They got receivers that can catch the ball.
You the thought ceed eagle, lamb go down. I knew
for sure that that boy wasn't Finn. Let let nothing
drop off over there, you know what I mean. That's
why they got them. That's why they went out there
got pickings, because they knew with this guy here, if
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we ever not, if we ever have to rely on
somebody else, we want him, he can be that number
one guy, you know, on anybody else's team. So it's scary, bro,
I think because I've always been a fan of Dak
and you yeah, I tell y'all every year. I was
a fan of Romo. Yeah, one more throw that thing
with some of the best of them. And I've been
saying that about Deck, and now Deck's looking like the
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Deck that we saw. They have gotten to this point, man,
and I don't know if it's gonna be one of
them shootout type of game.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But boy, we got to come with our heart in
the night. The offense plays like we ain't got a defense.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
They offense plays like if we don't scow every drive
to go fast and sco often.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yes, if we don't scow every drive, we're gonna lose
this game.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
They score like a scared dog, if you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, And I really like the way the offense has built,
like a lot of play actions.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
There's a lot of college principals. The offensive coordinators.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
The first time offensive cordator in the NFL, but he's
an offensive line guy, so I think he really does
a good job insulating the offensive line. And Freddie were
talking about how they're playing. I think they're actually not
playing that great at the moment. I think they're struggling.
But I don't think you feel it because the seems
for him, right, Yeah, and so and then dak Man.
I mean, it's maybe it's the coordinator, but dak is
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absolutely dealing.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's Shottenheimer.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Nobody wants to say Brian Schottenheimer is a good coach.
He was my rook when I was a rookie. He
was here with Marty. He's been around football his whole
entire life. He knows what what bag the lit DK
deal out of.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
And then you can also say to Dak, to Shadheimer's credit,
to Dak's credit, this is this is not.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Something new Tod he been in his offense already. You
know what I mean. They have to change now, they
have to change it.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
So now you know your your OC goes from being
a OC to the head coach, and we running the
same same thing. You know, we're not We're not We're
not changing nothing, and that helps quarterbacks out tremendously. You know,
you don't have to worry about refocusing and doing some
of the things that you did a year before h
differently this time around. So a lot of that you
can kind of like, you know, credit to his I
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guess you can say almost m v P type of season, Like.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Didn't you managed said this?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I wasna text that when he was with rus Russell
Wilson like up in cyt like that was Russell Wilson's best.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Year throwing the football.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
He's been he's been attached to these weird quarterback resurgencies,
and so obviously.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
There are these guys.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think about Kevin O'Connell for example, that know how
to like speak to the quarterback. They speak quarterback fluent,
and I think like there's some value there and he
obviously has an element of that. Because this is the
best I think I've always liked Dak two ten. I
think he's been for a football player. Like he's throwing
with great anticipation, he's throwing with great confidence, and he
in like high leverage moments is delivering like and again
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it's hard to quantify quarterback plays, so I'm just going
to read his PFF grade. He's got a ninety one.
He's like dark blue. That means you are a baller.
You're kind of on the track for like a Pro Bowl.
I think the only one hires like Baker Mayfield at
the moment, like he is absolutely playing his face off,
and so going in there, it's going to be a
tough challenge.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
No, no to.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Find Javid Joneses is gonna give us. Listen, it is
a division game, and see, this is what we can't
do right now. I wish I could say our losses
a equal, but all three of our louses at NFC
right at one point you're gonna have to correct it
because you already got the tie breaker against the Bears,
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gone Atlanta Falcons tie breaker, gone.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That one, and they beat the Bills and the like.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
So at the end of the day, like you have
to start to win the NFC games period.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, And I think they've got a bunch of playmakers
on offense. They've got George Pickens we already talked about.
I think Ceede Lams supposed to be getting healthy.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, he'll be.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
His work from the slot is masterful.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Cavante Turpin is balling out of control, and Ryan Florinoy.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Is kind of their fourth guy.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
All those guys again, just to give you some context,
are grading in the green and it shows up. And
again a lot of that is because of Dak, but
they are throwing the ball all over the yard.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
They're doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
And then prior to last week, they've been running the
football very, very efficiently with Williams.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
So it's going to be a huge challenge.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And I think, like if I was Joe Wood junior
and I'm not, and Joe Woo Junior's forgotten more football
than I'll ever know. It's just how do you kind
of mitigate the big play down to down forced them
to drive the length of the field. That seems like
the best way to get them there. If you get
them in third and long, you will be able to
get pressure. The problem is, according to these metrics that
Jason found for us, like pressure to sack rate is
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nine percent basically that's eleventh of the NFL. And the
time to throw is two point eight seconds, that's twenty
third in the NFL. Like, he does not have a
lot of time, but he's making a work at the moment.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
No, he understands.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
And then we got to understand that the internal battle
of brain trust in this game. These guys have been
on the same staff. Everybody knows each other to the tailor.
They know each other habits, they know each other's schemes,
they know what each other likes.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Some ways. That's good though, Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Gonna be a better attrition, Like who who's gonna Who's
going to out last each other? I don't even want
to say, who's gonna stay the same, who's gonna adapt,
who's gonna adapt?
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I think when you watched us play them last year
in both games, where you know, the first game you
look at and like, man, how we lost that at home?
And then the second when you say how we won
it at day home because it was it was one
of those and then you look at it with lancing
the game for them, you know, all that stuff that
went on. But I just feel like that to me
played a bigger role than what people probably expected. Them
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knowing each other, it almost seemed like they was ready
for whatever we did, what we did, whatever they did.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So that's why I look at these games.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I don't get caught up into the how well one
team is playing in the other, especially in our division
period NFC, each we beat each other up so much
to where you can't we have so much film on
each other, bro, even when they playing their best, they
don't play their best against each other against each other.
So you just got to look, like I said, it's
one of those hard had.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And lunch paal games. Who won't bring it?
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Who gonna come with that mentality that I have to
bring it a little more because this is what's riding.
And I think it's one of those games, man, where
we put ourselves in a situation. And I was looking
into this going into last week's game, like, man, this
is a chance to get ahead and be sitting in
a spot where we come in here at four and two,
we sitting in a good spot, if so happy, and
we don't take this one from their home because we
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still have a chance to take it back when we
see them at our home.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You see what I'm saying. But now we're sitting in
the spotlight.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
With three and three, they're two, three and one and
something like, yeah, right, three and one. Now we gotta
go on take it from them at their home. Yeah,
you know, we don't have a chance to say they
can have this one and we'll give them next time.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
So that's the offense. Obviously very dynamic, but forever dynamic.
The offensive the offense is. The defense is dreadful. I
mean maybe the worst group in the NFL. I mean
they and it's different than the Bears. Like the Bears
were not good prior to us playing them, right, but
they had talent. They had talent flashes. There wasn't a
lot of covert like here. It's like any way it
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can go wrong. It does go wrong for them.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Coverage, bus bad tackling, not being on the same page,
bad communication, everything that makes a defense bad.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
This defense and is just evil Flus his defense.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Yes it is actually, yeah, I think two they got
You know, our Harris is gone. He was there last year,
the offensive back coach, and he's gone. So when I'm
seeing some of the woes in the second day, I'm
saying to myself, I wanted to determinology change.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
That's that much, you know what I mean? Because when you.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
See they have the guys back there that's been magneus
for the ball, you know, the.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Digs to me look like whatever injury he had, it's
kind he's still fighting through it because he's making plays.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Just can't beat the digs that he was. Yeah, he
can't for some reason.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
He's not being as aggressive, but he also is sitting
back taking punches. And when I see a dB taking punches,
didn't mean I'm only doing it because I'm trying to
compensate for something like something's not comfortable with me.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
But I think that was his game.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
You know, if you think about his best year, Das
was a guy that gave up a lot and just
so happened to find a way around the ball and
catch the ball, you know when it comes this way too.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So to me, I've seen.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
So many considered great great considered conners, corners and this
lead that I face that I never cared about going
against him because even though you're known for interceptions and
you have a great rate when it comes to you know,
bollst on your way, you give up enough, so I'm
gonna take what you give me.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
So you don't have to go into games like that
when you look at what the other guy named blandgs
phenomenal when it comes to getting around the ball. So
you know that you put the ball in there, you
put the ball behind your receiver, nine time out of
ten they coming down with it. But if you give
your receiver a chance when he's when when he got
a change, when he got a good route on him,
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throwing the ball, putting on them precision and trust me,
we're gonna have opportunities because I feel like in the
secondary they've shown that already.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
This now they have anybody playing whale is I think
Donovan Wilson in safety, he's playing well.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
He's playing well, saying Williams.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
They got a couple of guys that they show flashes,
they show defense.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, so I mean they can make players, no doubt.
It's just like the consistency down to down isn't there
stopping the run, stopping the pass. So this to me
feels like it's gonna be a shootout. Ken Washington, Oh
Left win a shootout versus this Dollars team.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Well, you're talking about two high powered offenses, one by air,
one by ground.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I think it's who who plays clean?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Like, because if it's gonna be the better of two
great offenses, it's gonna be who makes the first turnover?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah? Who? And where's that turnover? And when is their turnover? Like?
Who plays clean football changes this game.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I think that's a great point. Fred I think that's
gonna do it. For the Dallas recap again, we're really
excited for the game. I think there's gonna be a
lot of points scored and hopefully again we can defens
can find a stop and their defense can't stop us. Right,
let's pay some bills, FREDI, you got the next read?
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Oh right? And yeah this s throw us off with
that same word.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Alright, team, listen up the countdowns on for the Ultimate
fall showdown in West Virginia. Lee are switching jerseys, Yes,
I said, jersey from green to gold. I should be
getting the gold jacket soon. Ready to light up the hillside.
If you want the best seat in the house for
the end of the season spectacular, it's time to hit
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the country roads and make your move to West Virginia. Yes,
I said West Virginia for some serious leaf peeping, leaf peeping.
Don't drop the ball on this one, West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
That's pretty good. Yeah, you got the twang helps you
on that one.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
No, No, that's when being from Mississippi really helps you.
Kind of.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I feel like I'm I'm there in the country.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
I'm getting I'm.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Gonna looked over there and seeing that was Randy Moss over.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
There, Old, I tell you, we got y'all all right.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
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and save your save on your car insurance?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
It's like finding that parking spot in front.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Of that busy outdoor cafe where you're meeting some of
your old friends from college, and you about to parallel
park into that oh so tight spot, and then everyone
in the cafe stops to watch, and you nailed it.
I did in one try. Like that parallel park, park
and baller. You are nobody clap, but you know they
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really wanted to.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
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Speaker 5 (45:21):
Switching and saving with Gico fields just like that. Get
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Speaker 3 (45:27):
You know it's funny.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I think there are reads that lend themselves to more
dynamic energy, the Triple A read and the guy so.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
When you read, when you bring a little juice on those,
I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Like, let's I did a lot of great app lib
and jezy styles here.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
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with the first one. What does Washington score thirty points
versus dollars Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yes, it's that time.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
If you ever gonna score thirty plus points, it's gonna
have to be against the worst defensive football. No, he'd
be losing his mind. So you know I call him
a meiln Kleio. He met him, Cleo Bro. He had
to tap into the spears man.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
They had they talk to me first.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
What did they tell you, bro? To me?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Hell? Yeah? Yeah, like that tell him hell yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Hey listen to if you ever go score thirty plus
plus points, it's gonna be against the worst defense in
the game, all right, And you know it's gonna be
emotional game.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
It's a visional game.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Everybody's gonna be trying to and then we're gonna be
a little bit more healthier. Might be Noah Brown in
this game, might be Terry mcloughin in his game. You know,
when you got all your arsenal, it helps you open
it up. Tanna talked earlier in the game, I mean
in the pot about just not having your your figure
pieces and your people there make the offense go. So
I think getting these guys back, plus playing this defense
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gives you a chance to go put up points and
the fact that if Dallas get to really move and
you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to go shot
for shot with I think both teams who coming in
a little bitter, but I feel like us, the taste
that we have in our mount right now is worse
than any loss, because you know you had it.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Right, No, no, you won, you had the game one.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
So this is jo you know what, bro, I'm about
to I'm about to make them pay on offense. So
our offense feeling like we're gonna make them pay, you
know what I mean, because we know we could have
easily just put our team to rest, our defense to
rest and let us and let them watch us drive
that ball and either punt it if we didn't have
it in us kick a field goal or score a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
And we didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
So I really feel like our offense primarily gonna be
hitting on a different Cyllemer.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, I think so too, But also I think it's
gonna be a game flow thing. I think if you're
not basically, if Dallas cou if the Dallas Cowboys are
possessing the football for a long period of time, I
think the score gets low because the number of possessions
are going to be limited obviously, right, But if it's
like hey, defense gets a three and out, we go
down and score, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
gonna the game will let us score more points, which
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I think is definitely possible. Okay, this is one we've
been very confident about the last couple of weeks. But
does Washington win the turnover battle.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Own the road?
Speaker 4 (48:22):
For some reason, we turn the ball over more than
we do at home.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah? I think Atlanta. Yeah, I think most of that
turnovers came on the road, right, I mean the night
we did three times at home.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
So no, no, I mean us getting turnovers on defense
are saying that we get the ball, we get back.
So I'm gonna say, yeah, we do win the turnover
battle because one thing, if Ceedee Lamb comes back, I
can see that going out his way to kind of
force feed Ceedee Lamb the ball. And I think anytime
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you get in the mode of force feeding the wide receiver,
no matter what, it's gonna be turnovers that come from that.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
I see we get at least two turnovers. I feel
like the other night we had two that slipped out
of our hands only because of the I think those
conditions alone, you know, caused us not to come away
with those balls. One was to Frankie, one was the Mikey,
and Mikey catched that ball. Frankie, I know he's a
linebacker's a little different the ball. You know, those guys
don't use their hands that well. But I just feel
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like when you have those opportunities, you can't miss out on.
You know, those gifts you can't because that hurts, you
know what I mean. Normally, when you drop a pick,
it's a touchdown coming behind you, you know what I mean. Right,
So we was fortunate, we was fortunate not to have
that happen both times. But I do believe on the road, man,
we're gonna have something to really we got to make
up for this man. And I feel like our team
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is gonna be more than ready.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Like more motivated, more motivated.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah, I am on the fence about this. I feel
like every week I've been like, this is the week,
this is the week. But I don't want to not
say this is the week. So I'm gonna say hell yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
And I'm really.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Excited because if we do get some turnovers, like we're
going to win this football game, We're going to talk
about Jade and Daniels for our last hell yeah or
hell now. But we got to talk about the US Army.
They say your work defines who you are. Monday through Friday,
nine to five, you're clocking in. But what happens on
the weekend, what happens to your time. You could take
it easy or you could use the time to get better.
In the US Army, we think differently. Your time should
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be used to improve the skills you do have to
learn something you don't, to push yourself in new ways,
because it's those days that truly define who you are.
That's how you make progress, That's how you make an
impact on the world around you. It's your time. How
you spend it is up to you. It's your time.
The US Army.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Reserve, I think I go John after that.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah, guess what I'm I don't know if they take
a step for they take anybody you on your brain.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
But someone else to maximize their time as Jadean Daniels.
And so this is an interesting one because I kind
of I'm excited about it. Yeah, Jade and Daniels out
plays dok Prescott good due, al Wow, good due al
right there, because uh, Jane is one.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Jane is just a big gamer. Like he likes big games.
He liked big atmosphere. There's no bigger atmosphere than Cowboy Stadium.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's just the energy is gonna be flowing. I hate
to be a homer right here, but I got I got,
I got you. No.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
No, what I'm saying is I got, I got, I
got love on both sides, like one is one is
my dog brother.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
My favorite bulldog over there.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
I appreciate with the Cowboys, I appreciate. I appreciate that.
I appreciate that because there's a lot of bulldogs. You
could have chosen you. You chose me, You chose that.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
You know, you.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Know, Mike is my favorite had.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
So what do you think?
Speaker 4 (51:59):
I I think I think it's time for him to
have that game this year. I don't think he has
this game this year. It's weird because he's played so well.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
But he still had that Oh yeah, you know what
I'm saying that he still hasn't came to me.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I feel like two weeks ago was a better game.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
But but the Bears game, he had better numbers.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
He did more like work in the Bears game, and
I was more impressed with even though he fumbled.
Speaker 5 (52:26):
But like I said, those conditions alone make everything just
looked that much cloudy. Like I felt like it was
so much going on with the conditions. I couldn't even
see what was going on when you play.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
With the conditions. We was under the northwest.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Name Norwegian, what's called Norwegian's.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Or northwestern, No, it's northeast.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
Eastern, northeastern or something I know Fred said the word
and I just took it from there.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
I don't know what in Norwegian is what he said.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I did not say. That's what you told me. That's
what you told me Norwegian? Norwegian, Norwegian. You know, you
know the no weed that came up and the can
got everything, but only when I don't know. I just
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don't know.
Speaker 5 (53:18):
So hell ya, Yeah, I'm going hell yo with everything,
get in straight up and down.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yeah, I'm feeling optimistic. Yeah, it's a division, and maybe
because I want it so bad. I want all these
things to come through. I want them to get a win.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
I want them to get it back on track. Hit
a couple in the row.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
I'm gonna say Jay Daniels outplays Dak Prescott, which would
be quite the feat because Dak Prescott, Yeah, he willed
the heck.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Of a year.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, that's gonna do it for today show. Please make
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Speaker 3 (53:43):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
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On today's episode The Command Center Podcast. Man, I'm not
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feeling very good. We're all very very good. But we
got doctor Smoon in the house and he's got the prescription.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, I have the cure.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
So that's our Bears recap.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
And then we got an eye exam also with jayde
Daniels Verse Caleb Williams can yeah, we'll see. And then
we got the Dallas Cowboys preview, and then we got hell.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, hell no.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It all starts right now. Welcome to The Command Center Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Saintana Mousin.
As always, we're in the Big Bear AI Command Center studio.
And guys, if the fans want to support us, what
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
Every time you mess it up, I do because because
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
What we're doing is what you did last week doing
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, you know, the older people tem to like to
get their tickets to old face.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know what I do is I'm watching on my phone.
So how do I scan the QR code on my phone?
If I'm watching on my phone, that's the thing that
I run into. That's my problem.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So there's really to the people that's watching it on
the ipay. Yeah, yeah, out of TV.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Correct, Yes, use your phone.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So guys, I'm not feeling very good, kind of feeling sick. Pain,
and I think we need to go to the doctor's
office pain.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And so today we're gonna do bears recap and it's
doctor's orders. Man, we got to go in. You know
what is it? Urgent care, I see you pain.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And so we're gonna start off with We're gonna start
off with what hurts, what ails us to in order
to fix it, we got to start off with the
thing that's kind of giving us the most pain, the
most discomfort.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Fred I guess I'll start right for it right now.
Glooty is maximus.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I was thinking something completely different.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I thought you'd say, man, it was tough, you know,
watching the turnover and they're like, no, just your glutes
are hurting glutes.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Listen to me, pain. We know the new term that
the youngsters use. Built to gluedy is maximus. Why just
say the word, you know what politically correct? You see that,
we know what they feel like. I listen to me,
it's it's one thing for a team to come take
(02:52):
something from you, but when you give it to them.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But that's what I'm saying, Like when you say, you know,
belt to glutes, I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It's it's it's a it's it's a whoop. It's a whooping.
This kind of felt like we were like, hey man,
but that hurts you more to me. But that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But it's not it's not built to glue in the
Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
But it wasn't that though it was live a belt.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
It was more like that parent that don't beat you.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I'm disappointed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You got you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I kind of liked that, Tanna, Yeah, because it it
did feel that way. It felt like, as I remember
in the third quarter, I was texting with my wife.
She's getting to go to bed, and I said, you know,
I think we're gonna win this game, because I felt
like all the momentum was the defense had been playing
pretty good, and then all of a sudden, there's you know,
mistackle on that racks, and then obviously the turnover late,
and it just felt like we kind of gave.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It away play.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It kind of felt like I was walking, I just
bought my dinner. I was walking to go sit down,
and you dropped and I tripped and it fell all.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's kind of what it felt like.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
It felt like the true thing that I was saying
early on my other shows.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It felt like what other show, Yeah, my post game.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Shows, get loud, right, get loud.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Just here check it out.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So here go think about it.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You know how you get up in the middle of
the night, you go into the bathroom, while you go
into the kitchen and you stump your toe edge and
it takes you to your knees.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's what this pain. It's avoidable. You just wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You weren't crossing your teen's, you weren't doing your eyes
and guess what now that pain, one of the smallest
things in the world, has brought us six six, two
hundred and seventy pound men, you down to your.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
To your knees. It felt like that to me.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, so Fred's glues hirt, Dannel. What hurts for you?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh man, it hurts my heart? Is it indigestion?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Actually? Yeah? What is? It? Honestly like one of those
heartaches that you know you can get over it, but for.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
This moment she left you, but you know you desire
to be left.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
It hurts, you know, And it's crazy because the way
I describe it watching.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
The game, it wasn't something that she did. Yeah, it
was something.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
That that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, no, no, that's good. I know what you saying.
She ain't hurt me. She ain't hurt me.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I hurt me. And my heart hurting.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Because if I just didn't do what I.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Did, yeah, we'll be it'll be a good spot right now,
all right.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So that's that's that's how I feel, and that's why
that's why I know I can get over it, because no,
all I'm gonna hurt because damn, I let a good
one go.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Hopefully hopefully she comes back. If not. I know, I
have to not do what I did last time the
next time.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think for me, it's the it's the pain of regret,
you know what I'm saying. That's what hurts, the regret
of it. You know what I'm saying it because like
we've all, I have better part of games like this.
I know you guys have two where it's like, man,
we were the better team, we were the better team
and we and we just dropped it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, we were the better team, we had the better
game plan, we did everything right. That's the only thing
that hurts. The coaches put in the right game plan.
We we put we gave the right effort, we made
the right plays, and we still lost.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And with all that being said, when I look at
the situation of the game before the game start. You know,
I always say, y'all, guys, I have feelings and I
and I sometimes.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I feel like premonitions.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, like I have them, and sometime I speak it
or sometime I want because I don't want what I'm
feeling to put I don't want to put.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It in there.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You don't want to project it.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, when the weather was looking like it was looking pregame,
it's like, bro, this is this is benefiting them, not
us because you want them to you want them to
be fair. It was fair, but you wanted you want
them to be to the point to where fast track
a team that's not playing well in certain situations, especially defensively.
You know, we know what they can do with turnovers,
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and you don't want to go into a game that's
with Yeah, a team that's great turning the ball over,
you see what I'm saying. Yeah, So I feel like
going into the game just the conditions alone was favoring them.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Even though that both of us had to go out
there and hold on to the ball.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
But I feel like for a team like them, you
own the road at somebody else's home, who feel like
they can capitalize on certain things. This might slow them
down and we have the advantage. And that's just that's
just me, you know what I mean. I can't put
that out there on anybody else, but that's just me.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So we talked about what hurts now, it's talking now
something to talk about what led to that hurt And
for me, it's just like fundamentals, right, did we tackle well?
Are we in our gap on defense? Are we protecting
the football? You know what I'm saying, are we being
good on third down? And when you kind of check
those boxes of it's like, man, you get that exposed
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to play the swiftly off of mistackle. There a couple
of those, like going back and watching the run stuff today,
like guys are like, this is the thing that's tough.
It's guys are playing hard, but are they in the gap?
Are they playing back?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
And it's and that's the small things.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The small things, right, and again small things in the
NFL lead to big things, right, Yeah, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I think those are something.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And then also just not protecting football offensively, like we
put the defense in tough spots and they had our
back at multiple junctions there like you know, short field
held them to three to two field goals. Like that's
big time stuff, but ultimately, like ultimately it didn't work out.
So I think it's it's like the stuff you learned
day one of of Pop Warner.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Igo a symptom you store it slow, you slow, and
we stole it slow.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Like I know this is I don't want to put
you on the spot, but why do you what do
you think that is?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I don't know. I don't have a good reason we.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Didn't play it on teams. It's not really a correlation
to we stole slow. It's just this the game flow right,
and just how it was last year.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
It wasn't It wasn't something that you can just put
your hand on. While we were starting so good last year,
why we finished so well last year.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It was just one of the things. It's about.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
The momentum was just shifting and we was riding that wave.
Right now we're riding the opposite wave. We're riding something
that we don't want to be on, but we know
how to respond when we get there.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's the same.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Pattern, but we knew how to respond.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
And you said to yourself, if you really don't if
you think about it, last night, we really didn't start slow.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's how I look at it. Last night wasn't a
slow start.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
We drove down the field and and our defense went
out there and they being but they didn't break. They
gave us a chance to go out there and get
on top. So I don't look at last night as
stars slow. But when you look at us being down
by thirteen, then you look at and say, man, we
slow stopped, but we had two turnovers.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I think it's more of last year. We was more
Mike Tyson than Floyd Mayweather. All we was more proactive
than reactive. To me, now it feels like we're reacting
and not pro acting. We're not on the attack. We
more defensively. Like the one thing about Floyd Maywell, he's
a counterpuncher. But to be a counterpuncher, I need to
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see what you're gonna do for almost take a punch. Yeah,
I have to see how you're gonna attack me, so
then I can counter you. Instead of being we're going
forward every fourth down, we're doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It seemed like we had a Mike Tyson like edge.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
But with all that being said, and Logan probably wanted
the best at when he does this and breaking stuff
down and helping you see things the way he see it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What you say, you see it with your own eyes.
But when he said it, you be.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Like, oh, now I know what's going now, Okay. Because
Logan pointed it out last night, I felt like Logan
was in my head because I was saying to myself, Wow,
it's how crippled we are as offense. Like we was
getting in sets where I saw, Oh, there's nobody to
go to. This don't work where we going. Yeah, you
see what I'm saying. So that's when you really put
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into context. Man, this team is really overachieving because of
the lack of what we have as playmakers. And that's
not nothing at nobody, it's just when you have have
a lot of firepower, teams have to respond defensively panically.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
We have to minimize what we want to do and
almost playing to the hand. And I saw that time
and time again with just different formations that we was
getting ourselves into.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And so I'm glad you brought up that proactive, reactive element, Fred,
because I think there you feel some of that. But
I also think because of the offensive situation, Terry's hurt,
Noah Brown.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Sam cos me our least things.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah and again, like.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
There's two new offensive line starters since week one. Like
and again, those guys are playing good ball. And I
think the guys on the outside are playing good ball.
But it's We've been in NFL locker rooms and there's
a difference. And I'm the first one to tell you this.
I was a third string tight end. I'll tell you
if the first if Jordan Reid got hurt and I
had to go run routes, the offense is in a
tough spot, you know, Like that's just how it is.
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You know what I'm saying. There's a different skill set
between that first and third guy versus the second guy.
And so while you love the competitiveness, the toughness those
guys are playing with, like there are NFL football players,
there's a reason Terry's making what is he fifty million
dollars whatever he's.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Making, because he's up excellently, because he's a different caliber.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
But it's not even about it's not even about those guys.
It's about when you see the scheme, it's minimized because
of the guys.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's not nothing on the guys.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I can tell from the naked eye when you see
like that ain't our best. That ain't my best formation
for a play to be made.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
But we have to run it.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
But we don't got because of what we what the
lack there is you know what I mean, players or
play makers. So nothing against nothing, No, I mean nobody
out Like I said it last night a couple of
nights ago too. You got a Jersey on and you
got a number, you're working, go out there.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And dudes, you gotta those guys made plays.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But it's just I think it's the frequency kind of
what it does to the offense. Just it feels different.
So again, like I think that's what the productive reactive
thing fred I think is good. I think the fundamental
football thing is also important.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
But all that being said, all those symptoms, Yeah, like
we should have still to a head chance.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
That's the thing that gets me again, why am I why?
It's the pain of regret For me, it's like.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
So, what's the cure to the pain of regret? What's
your cure to fix it?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So I look at it and I say to myself, well,
you know, Joe widd Junior said something last week where
he's like, don't put on capes, and everyone assumed that
applied to coverage, right, And I thought the coverage group
played much better this week. Don't put on capes. They
played better the week before, Right, they didn't put on capes.
Just do what they're supposed to do. I felt like
watching the run tape this week, guys are trying to
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put on capes. Guys are trying to play back guys
are trying to play out. They're trying to make every tackle,
and it's like, sometimes you just got to bury your
head on this block and fit this gap.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Take the right shoulder, take the like, do the things
that like set your teammate up. Like sometimes you don't
make the play, but they don't mean you ain't make
the play, Like I made the play for my guy
to make the play a right.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I saw that in the college football game this past
weekend where I don't know if it was a back
off quarterback to hit the outside. There's two guys going
to make this play if you just go outside because
you the outside guy take on that block. He has
to cut back feet but guess what, both guys went outside,
and when he cut back, he went by himself. So
I'm sitting there like, bro, both of y'all can't be
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on the same plane. See what I'm saying, Like, that's
common sense. That's football. One on one, let's tackling, that's
that's fitting the gap. Well, whatever you want to call it,
one on one, Like, you take that one because he.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Gonna come back to me.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, And so I think that to me, like that
would be the first thing to take care of because
I think Joe Wood Junior's had a really good plan
on third down. I think they're pressured well. I think
guys have covered well. I think versus this team, you
wanted them to be in third long and so just
on first second time. Like, I know, it's simplistic. I
know it's derivative. Do your job, it's boring, it's not
always the funnest thing. Do what you're supposed to do.
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I think that'll clean up some of that early first
and second down stuff. Yeah, and put you in better
situations defensive. And this is again also to be said,
they held this team to sixteen points well within of
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
No, no, yes, that means you forced him to take
three no matter what, you're taking their best punches.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And so despite that criticism, like, I still think they
played well. You know, you see Ken Law, you see
pain Rash. Newton's playing well, right, I think Kwan Martin
this is again, no, he played well. I thought he
had a really good game outside of one.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Missing that tackle on the sideline.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You know what's so crazy about that tackle because we've
been talking about it and when they teams are taking
what other teams do.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That was the option, right.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
He said that he tried to play back on it,
but when they got there, and that's why he ended
up bumping into a lot more because he was he
was thinking, all right, Finn, set me up, and when
I play over the top or if I come all
the way out, he's going to break in. And so
he played under, trying to play back, and the guy
just gave him like, all right, I'm take that out.
And then and by that time he just oh man,
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he thinking like, man, let me get here. By that time,
you beat But at the end of the day, this
this is one thing, and this is not not to
Kwan directly, to Kwan defensively as a whole. When I
got a guy on the sideline, I forget the ball,
forget the tackle.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I'm getting you out of bound. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I don't know that friend, I'm gonna lose that throwing
at you and making you, you know, either go out
of bound or have to cut back and let somebod
else get you. And I just hate to see us
in that situation time and time again. I feel like
this this year already, we've seen a lot of guys
break tackles or we miss guys on the sideline when
the sideline is our friends.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I think I think that's an NFL wide problem exactly
well tackling, because let's be honest, compared to and this
is now, we sound like dirty old men because we finish, say,
back in our day, but back in our day we
did real training camps. Back in our day, we made
it to the season already, callus, we made it to
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the season.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
My pants was already dirty because I've.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Been tackling Santana for three weeks in training camp.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It's just a different carry out.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But it's funny.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Like obviously, like I think there's marriage to what you're saying, Fred,
but I also think that like Kwan has been one
of the better tackles.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
No, he's been slid.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
That's what I'm why you kind of kind of scratch
your head, like when you see him in that situations.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like it's like when you see Terry drop a ball,
You're like, that's not you.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Never And I can I can also point at it
saying that's when you see guys trying to make a
play because they give him.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Up a play.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
You see what I'm saying, Like this finish it because
right now he's he caught the past.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, so this finished the play.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And I will say this about the defense man, I
thought they did a really good job. And I know
this is hard to talk about a loss, but they
did a good job of saying, hey, we gave up
an explosive play.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
We're going to defend every blade of grass.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
So like they give up that big cross to the
burden and then they get him a third down, they
take that weird sack and then they kick a field
goal and it's like, you won, good job. You put
the offense in position to win this football game for you.
So it was weird. It was weird watching the film
this morning, being like, man, like this is good.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Here's like one bad play, but.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
That one bad play dictates the game. It changes the
floor of the game, It changes the momentum of the game,
it changes the mindset of the game.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You were West Phillips, Tenna.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
He was a titand coacher Phil So I remember at
a game where I graded out really really well, really
really well, but I had a fumble in a two
minute situation that led to a touchdown, and he said
all players are not created equal.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
They not.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And I think like that That's that to me is
the you know, the ultimate like symptom or explanation of
this game is all plays are not created equal, and
we messed up on big or the team messed up
on big ones.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And the critical play correct. It's sounds when you couldn't
afford to you just can't afford it, Like you can't
afford the fumble. Everything shambled.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And because even if you pick it up, yes and
you punted, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Win, you win. You have a better chance because now
you just gave him the ball at the fifty yard line.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
They don't need but tend you know what to get
in field goal, right, it changes.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The whole move.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Now you got to use all your timeouts. Now you're like,
it's a calls in a fit because this happened. Now
to fix this and now I have to take a
whole different way and a whole different pattern to try
to get to this win.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It changed everything.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, absolutely so in terms of cure, I think there
is some technical things that could cure, right, I think cannacia.
I think also like getting healthier offensively will help with
some stuff. Because, like Tanna said, there's times where you're
watching and you're like like team, the Bears were smart.
We're gonna give them their credit, right, they came out
and said, we're gonna play man. We're gonna play it
man boxes, we're gonna wind, You're going to running the ball,
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I mean the ball.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
We're gonna line sign on first down.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And we think our coverage guys match up really well
with your playmakers. And I think as we get healthier,
I think that'll help kind of add some dynamism to
that grier.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Although, and this the only reason why I pointed out
what I saw as a receiver. Twenty six should have
been exploited. I don't know who that guy is. I'm
not gonna say his name, but he should have been exploited.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He more had it.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
If you go back and watch the tape and tell
me if I'm wrong, watch more run routes on him,
even when he wasn't getting the ball thrown his.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Way, beating him, beating them to a pope.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
And I'm like, if we got a guy who they
trust a little more, Yeah, I don't know who they
throwing at him, were gonna do something different, you go
check to it, but we didn't. We didn't feel like
we had that luxury you see what I'm saying, And
I'm not saying we did.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm not saying I know what was going on.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I felt that watching him give up so much room
on Hi'm talking about brother, you off ten yards at
times and taking everything thinking everything is going deep.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
We could a rank come back, curl in all day
on them.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
But when you don't have the luxury, when you don't
feel like you're comfortable with the guys, then you don't
call these Well, nobody ever talked about this, but Debo
in that he'll yeah, I watched it. Yeah, he wasn't
running like regular Devail Washington, So now your number one.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Target is limping into the game. That we did have
a zach Ertz side.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
But that's why I said, I'm so happy that the
guys did make the plays that was throwing that way,
because that gives the coach more say, Okay, I could
trust them a little more, you know, And then, like
I said, too, it could have been a condition.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You know, Hey, I'm already have to put this.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Guy out here because of our situation or our circumstance.
Do I want to risk a third down that particular person, yeah,
or setting up something so I can get erch the ball.
You know what I mean, because I saw a player
too when we was in the we had one receiver.
We want to throw the arth's back, but they covered them.
Well yeah, so now you got like, who I gotta
throw the ball away because I only got another guy
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backside and I was on front side already.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yea, yeah, Okay, So I think that's that kind of goes.
I feel better after going to visit the doctor a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Healed you already heal me, but like you know.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
What I'm saying, but I'm saying it's not healed. But
you know, we're starting the road to recover. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
But I think this is an important thing. We kind
of alluded to it here a little bit. Is jayde
Daniels or Caleb Williams And yeah, after this game, a
lot of people in the national media talk about I'll
keell you what Williams is going to.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
The show and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh my god, and Prince of Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And so I guess I'll start it off as like
when you go watch y'all twenty two, Jaydeon Daniels just
makes the right play often sick of nature. Yeah, and
I'm not a big PFF guy. I think grades are
a little bit up and down for me. But Jane
Daniels comes out of this grade, out of this game
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with a seventy eight PFF grade out of one hundred,
Kayleb Williams comes out with a forty six. And I
think when you watch the game, you feel the discrepancy
in play. And so what I mean by that is
like Caleb Williams took two of the craziest sacks I've
ever seen take them.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, Frankie Louvu. They won with Frankie Louvo. What was
he doing? Yeah, No, Caleb has these blind spots.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And I don't want to be so again, I don't
want to sound like I'm coming down hard on Kilb.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think he's a good player, but I think.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
When you compare them, like you get those two kind
of crazy sacks, there's two balls that should have been
picked off that weren't picked off.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I think should have picked him.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It was a third one, right, and so obviously like
you're not you don't throw an interception on those plays.
But I think when you look at me, say he
for whatever reason, there are these moments where it's like.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That's the lapse.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
It's in Judge, yeah, right, And Jayden seems to be
smooth through that transition, like we're shocked when he makes
a mistake, like when he threw that pick early in
the game.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And I'll be honest with him, miss and I'll be
honest with you, like live when I saw that, I
was like, I don't hate that because it's cover three.
It's all go special, like that's that's the spot you
want that ball to go. And again like are you
maybe being too aggressive? Sure, get that ball to the flat, right,
I understand that, But like in the moment, like if
I'm coaching the high school, like the myigh school quarterback
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and he tries to rip that, I'm like, that's the
right thought.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Cover three. You're on a hook player, Let's try.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
To rip that in try to get it up to
scene and uh and again like it gets picked off,
and so you're kind of like, that's the that's the
price doing business. And if you say, oh, you know,
let's get to the flat next time. But I didn't
hate it in the moment, you know what I mean.
So I don't know I just to me, it's a
they're both good players. I just think Jayden's decision like
That's the other thing is like there's times where there's
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concepts like Panna was talking about that are dead in
the water. They've covered them well, they're in zone coverage,
there's a hook player under the cross or whatever it is,
and Jaye Daniel scrambles for ten yards and you're just
like that ability to consistently make that decision, yeah, is
next level.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
And to me, I think that's why you always kind
of lean on the side of what Jayden does because
even in that time of not having anything, the right
decision was to get all I can get instead of
trying to make something out of nothing. You see what
I'm saying. And don't get me wrong, because I'm high
on both.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Of the guys.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I think Caleb still went out there and got to
you know, did what he can do. But there was
at times when they had three and outs or had
to punt the ball or had to kick a field goal.
When you pressured him, it was different. You saw panic.
You see what I'm saying, You pressuring Jaden, It's almost
like I know you didn't because now I'm in a
slip one two.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I'm gonna get out here.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I'm gonna see it my guy in the flat open,
or I'm gonna see somebody downfield. If I don't have it,
I could go out run your fastest guy and get
ten yards out of this, you know what I mean.
So that's that's how I look at it. But you
always say that on this set we're gonna be biased.
But when you bring up the national media, the national
media to me is they ride on just.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Who who had the better who won the game? You
know who?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
You know you look at it, and that first thing
they say, Oh it's not you gotta think this guy
overcame this and that. Yeah, but we if we just
do what we had to do, we won that game
with him doing all that. So carnival, I'm gonna be
the biased guy there and stick over here with my guy.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
That's what the national media is. It's a carnival. It's
Steve you put up in his flashing lights and it's
this big spectacle when it's nothing in the long term,
it's a lot of minuitia. We gotta go with the
hot thing, and right now the hot thing is the
quarterback who was pick number one in this draft who
we thought was the fourth best quarterback might be the
first best quarterback. No, he just finally got an office
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coordinator that knows how to call the offensive screen someplaces
I gotta get big juston his product.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Some stuff up.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Bro, he died, he was and he had two weeks
to do think about And that's a great point now.
I said that inside the sweet that and I'm like, look, bro,
with two weeks to do it, you see what they're doing. Yes,
they was finding them, and it was at times if
there was a drop or just a misread away from
it being well, no rumor duodes.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
They supposed to add to one hundred and.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Fifty yards running right now, So it was it was
just time where he was just whipping them with the pin,
all right. And when I watched Caleb play, it's a
little erradic. It's a little radic at the time where
Jade seems to be a little bit more smoother and
polished and situational.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
But you can't lose with they in one of these guys.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I think if you got one of these guys, you
got a chance.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
But with Jade, it's just a groundness.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Two weeks, it's a trust that I think he even
built up with it some more mature play.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
That's what I look at it as.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah, I feel like when I'm watching both of those
guys talented at what they do. But I look at
Jayden like you beyond your years emotionally, you know what
I'm saying. All that in the buck, you beyond his years.
Then you see a young you see you can see
the youth in Taylor, meaning that, hey, you can play
this game, no question, you can throw that thing, you
can do, all that stuff that you do, you can add.
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But I see when he's he's I guess you can
say affected, Like I can see it in him.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The walk, the way he walked.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
To everything like that would affect me as a receiver
watching my quarterback do that, do some of those things.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Because I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I'm even in my worst, I'm calm because I'm like,
don't let that bother you, Tenna, don't let that affect you. Yeah,
we all gonna you know, you know, they beat man.
He gonna show you. But guess what, that's it. Get
back there, Let's get back right. I see that I
see that guy be beat to the sideline on the bench,
he's sit different like you is showing the team that
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you affected.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You can't show that at times.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
So that's the only thing that bothers me when I'm
watching because I'm watching closely because I'm, you know, being
a receiver. You watch quarterbacks how emotionally if you yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I think that's the other point that I just want
to piggyback on, friend, and then we'll move on. Is
I feel like Ben Johnson's elevating Caleb right, like he's
hiding some of Caleb's deficiencies. And in this game, I
think Cliff has done a great job since Jadan's been
here of elevating Jayden. But in this game, I felt
like Jayden elevated, elevated elements of the offense. And you know,
it's like when zach Ertz after the game says, like,
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what are you talking about? Like we wouldn't be anywhere
without Jayden.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
One.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I love that he's sticking out for his quarterback. Two
I think there's an element of truth to that. I
think he really drives this thing.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
This thing he allows you to cale fly and plays
and they don't look and to meet that alone just
shows you how up and down the media are yeah,
you messed one play and then oh my god, yeah,
you know, and.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
He won about what how many game he won last year? Yeah,
well you can say he won. Yeah, what I'm saying
we won't. We won't have a chance to win him
without him.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, yeah, So I think that's going to do it
for our recap of the Bears game. Ready to move
on mostly, but in the meantime, place and.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Bills, bills.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I you know, when being that I'm the cutler cut
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
You're trying to get all intimate with the All right,
so now it's time for our Dallas Cowboys preview. Yeah,
and I think we'll start on the offensive side of
the football. Maybe we'll do both together, but basically the
Cowboys offense when you watch them sick.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
First of all, let me tell you something, boy, skinny
Deck All right?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Is he skinny?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Now he's skinny again. Let me tell you something bout Deck.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
When he leans on his legs more, he opens that
whole outfense.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
But he's not like running more scram.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
It's an option now. It wasn't an option of a
year ago. It went't an option the year before that.
When he came into this league. He ran his way
into this league. He didn't throw his way into this league.
He developed into this precision throw. Now he understands, I
need to get at least two third downs a game
with my feet. I don't care if it's two yards,
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ten yards, whatever it needs. When he starts to do that,
it opens up everything. The game has slowed down for him.
George Picking is a animal unleashed out there.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
He's not like super consistent. But when he goes off,
it's like here's like a buck fifty at a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's what he do. Javonte Williams has been that dude.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
He's like like been like he's like, what is that reborn?
He's like rejuvenated, new.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Place, new face.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That's what you get, right That offense Ferguson like they
are moving the chains. They're one of those offenses that
when you really look at them on paper, they ain't
really got what you call a weak spot, like they
get the offensive line. I thought they playing their butt
off because I thought that would be the week spot
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coming into the year. But they ten, They got playing
their butt off. The option is going on the defensive side,
but on the offense. One of the most potent offenses
in the NFL right now, the Dallas Cowboys offense.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
They're potent.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I think it's scary too, man, when you look at it,
because you know that just watching these guys for the
last few weeks and it almost reminds me it almost
resembles when I was playing against them. He used to
always say, man, they had the defense. And then right
after I left, Dan Quinn comes years later and the defense,
they go twelve and four like three years, or they
win twelve games and more the next three or four
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years while he's there. That's what I'm looking at now.
It's almost like that in the offense, back to hitting
on all cylinders. They can run the ball. Dak is
playing phenomenal. They got receivers that can catch the ball.
You the thought ceed eagle, lamb go down. I knew
for sure that that boy wasn't Finn. Let let nothing
drop off over there, you know what I mean. That's
why they got them. That's why they went out there
got pickings, because they knew with this guy here, if
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we ever not, if we ever have to rely on
somebody else, we want him, he can be that number
one guy, you know, on anybody else's team. So it's scary, bro,
I think because I've always been a fan of Dak
and you yeah, I tell y'all every year. I was
a fan of Romo. Yeah, one more throw that thing
with some of the best of them. And I've been
saying that about Deck, and now Deck's looking like the
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Deck that we saw. They have gotten to this point, man,
and I don't know if it's gonna be one of
them shootout type of game.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But boy, we got to come with our heart in
the night. The offense plays like we ain't got a defense.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
They offense plays like if we don't scow every drive
to go fast and sco often.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yes, if we don't scow every drive, we're gonna lose
this game.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
They score like a scared dog, if you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, And I really like the way the offense has built,
like a lot of play actions.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
There's a lot of college principals. The offensive coordinators.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
The first time offensive cordator in the NFL, but he's
an offensive line guy, so I think he really does
a good job insulating the offensive line. And Freddie were
talking about how they're playing. I think they're actually not
playing that great at the moment. I think they're struggling.
But I don't think you feel it because the seems
for him, right, Yeah, and so and then dak Man.
I mean, it's maybe it's the coordinator, but dak is
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absolutely dealing.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's Shottenheimer.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Nobody wants to say Brian Schottenheimer is a good coach.
He was my rook when I was a rookie. He
was here with Marty. He's been around football his whole
entire life. He knows what what bag the lit DK
deal out of.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
And then you can also say to Dak, to Shadheimer's credit,
to Dak's credit, this is this is not.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Something new Tod he been in his offense already. You
know what I mean. They have to change now, they
have to change it.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
So now you know your your OC goes from being
a OC to the head coach, and we running the
same same thing. You know, we're not We're not We're
not changing nothing, and that helps quarterbacks out tremendously. You know,
you don't have to worry about refocusing and doing some
of the things that you did a year before h
differently this time around. So a lot of that you
can kind of like, you know, credit to his I
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guess you can say almost m v P type of season, Like.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Didn't you managed said this?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I wasna text that when he was with rus Russell
Wilson like up in cyt like that was Russell Wilson's best.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Year throwing the football.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
He's been he's been attached to these weird quarterback resurgencies,
and so obviously.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
There are these guys.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think about Kevin O'Connell for example, that know how
to like speak to the quarterback. They speak quarterback fluent,
and I think like there's some value there and he
obviously has an element of that. Because this is the
best I think I've always liked Dak two ten. I
think he's been for a football player. Like he's throwing
with great anticipation, he's throwing with great confidence, and he
in like high leverage moments is delivering like and again
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it's hard to quantify quarterback plays, so I'm just going
to read his PFF grade. He's got a ninety one.
He's like dark blue. That means you are a baller.
You're kind of on the track for like a Pro Bowl.
I think the only one hires like Baker Mayfield at
the moment, like he is absolutely playing his face off,
and so going in there, it's going to be a
tough challenge.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
No, no to.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Find Javid Joneses is gonna give us. Listen, it is
a division game, and see, this is what we can't
do right now. I wish I could say our losses
a equal, but all three of our louses at NFC
right at one point you're gonna have to correct it
because you already got the tie breaker against the Bears,
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gone Atlanta Falcons tie breaker, gone.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That one, and they beat the Bills and the like.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
So at the end of the day, like you have
to start to win the NFC games period.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, And I think they've got a bunch of playmakers
on offense. They've got George Pickens we already talked about.
I think Ceede Lams supposed to be getting healthy.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, he'll be.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
His work from the slot is masterful.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Cavante Turpin is balling out of control, and Ryan Florinoy.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Is kind of their fourth guy.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
All those guys again, just to give you some context,
are grading in the green and it shows up. And
again a lot of that is because of Dak, but
they are throwing the ball all over the yard.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
They're doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
And then prior to last week, they've been running the
football very, very efficiently with Williams.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
So it's going to be a huge challenge.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And I think, like if I was Joe Wood junior
and I'm not, and Joe Woo Junior's forgotten more football
than I'll ever know. It's just how do you kind
of mitigate the big play down to down forced them
to drive the length of the field. That seems like
the best way to get them there. If you get
them in third and long, you will be able to
get pressure. The problem is, according to these metrics that
Jason found for us, like pressure to sack rate is
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nine percent basically that's eleventh of the NFL. And the
time to throw is two point eight seconds, that's twenty
third in the NFL. Like, he does not have a
lot of time, but he's making a work at the moment.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
No, he understands.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
And then we got to understand that the internal battle
of brain trust in this game. These guys have been
on the same staff. Everybody knows each other to the tailor.
They know each other habits, they know each other's schemes,
they know what each other likes.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Some ways. That's good though, Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Gonna be a better attrition, Like who who's gonna Who's
going to out last each other? I don't even want
to say, who's gonna stay the same, who's gonna adapt,
who's gonna adapt?
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I think when you watched us play them last year
in both games, where you know, the first game you
look at and like, man, how we lost that at home?
And then the second when you say how we won
it at day home because it was it was one
of those and then you look at it with lancing
the game for them, you know, all that stuff that
went on. But I just feel like that to me
played a bigger role than what people probably expected. Them
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knowing each other, it almost seemed like they was ready
for whatever we did, what we did, whatever they did.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So that's why I look at these games.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I don't get caught up into the how well one
team is playing in the other, especially in our division
period NFC, each we beat each other up so much
to where you can't we have so much film on
each other, bro, even when they playing their best, they
don't play their best against each other against each other.
So you just got to look, like I said, it's
one of those hard had.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And lunch paal games. Who won't bring it?
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Who gonna come with that mentality that I have to
bring it a little more because this is what's riding.
And I think it's one of those games, man, where
we put ourselves in a situation. And I was looking
into this going into last week's game, like, man, this
is a chance to get ahead and be sitting in
a spot where we come in here at four and two,
we sitting in a good spot, if so happy, and
we don't take this one from their home because we
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still have a chance to take it back when we
see them at our home.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You see what I'm saying. But now we're sitting in
the spotlight.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
With three and three, they're two, three and one and
something like, yeah, right, three and one. Now we gotta
go on take it from them at their home. Yeah,
you know, we don't have a chance to say they
can have this one and we'll give them next time.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
So that's the offense. Obviously very dynamic, but forever dynamic.
The offensive the offense is. The defense is dreadful. I
mean maybe the worst group in the NFL. I mean
they and it's different than the Bears. Like the Bears
were not good prior to us playing them, right, but
they had talent. They had talent flashes. There wasn't a
lot of covert like here. It's like any way it
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can go wrong. It does go wrong for them.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Coverage, bus bad tackling, not being on the same page,
bad communication, everything that makes a defense bad.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
This defense and is just evil Flus his defense.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Yes it is actually, yeah, I think two they got
You know, our Harris is gone. He was there last year,
the offensive back coach, and he's gone. So when I'm
seeing some of the woes in the second day, I'm
saying to myself, I wanted to determinology change.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
That's that much, you know what I mean? Because when you.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
See they have the guys back there that's been magneus
for the ball, you know, the.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Digs to me look like whatever injury he had, it's
kind he's still fighting through it because he's making plays.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Just can't beat the digs that he was. Yeah, he
can't for some reason.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
He's not being as aggressive, but he also is sitting
back taking punches. And when I see a dB taking punches,
didn't mean I'm only doing it because I'm trying to
compensate for something like something's not comfortable with me.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
But I think that was his game.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
You know, if you think about his best year, Das
was a guy that gave up a lot and just
so happened to find a way around the ball and
catch the ball, you know when it comes this way too.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So to me, I've seen.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
So many considered great great considered conners, corners and this
lead that I face that I never cared about going
against him because even though you're known for interceptions and
you have a great rate when it comes to you know,
bollst on your way, you give up enough, so I'm
gonna take what you give me.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
So you don't have to go into games like that
when you look at what the other guy named blandgs
phenomenal when it comes to getting around the ball. So
you know that you put the ball in there, you
put the ball behind your receiver, nine time out of
ten they coming down with it. But if you give
your receiver a chance when he's when when he got
a change, when he got a good route on him,
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throwing the ball, putting on them precision and trust me,
we're gonna have opportunities because I feel like in the
secondary they've shown that already.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
This now they have anybody playing whale is I think
Donovan Wilson in safety, he's playing well.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
He's playing well, saying Williams.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
They got a couple of guys that they show flashes,
they show defense.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, so I mean they can make players, no doubt.
It's just like the consistency down to down isn't there
stopping the run, stopping the pass. So this to me
feels like it's gonna be a shootout. Ken Washington, Oh
Left win a shootout versus this Dollars team.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Well, you're talking about two high powered offenses, one by air,
one by ground.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I think it's who who plays clean?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Like, because if it's gonna be the better of two
great offenses, it's gonna be who makes the first turnover?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah? Who? And where's that turnover? And when is their turnover? Like?
Who plays clean football changes this game.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I think that's a great point. Fred I think that's
gonna do it. For the Dallas recap again, we're really
excited for the game. I think there's gonna be a
lot of points scored and hopefully again we can defens
can find a stop and their defense can't stop us. Right,
let's pay some bills, FREDI, you got the next read?
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Oh right? And yeah this s throw us off with
that same word.
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with the first one. What does Washington score thirty points
versus dollars Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yes, it's that time.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
If you ever gonna score thirty plus points, it's gonna
have to be against the worst defensive football. No, he'd
be losing his mind. So you know I call him
a meiln Kleio. He met him, Cleo Bro. He had
to tap into the spears man.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
They had they talk to me first.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
What did they tell you, bro? To me?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Hell? Yeah? Yeah, like that tell him hell yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Hey listen to if you ever go score thirty plus
plus points, it's gonna be against the worst defense in
the game, all right, And you know it's gonna be
emotional game.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
It's a visional game.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Everybody's gonna be trying to and then we're gonna be
a little bit more healthier. Might be Noah Brown in
this game, might be Terry mcloughin in his game. You know,
when you got all your arsenal, it helps you open
it up. Tanna talked earlier in the game, I mean
in the pot about just not having your your figure
pieces and your people there make the offense go. So
I think getting these guys back, plus playing this defense
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gives you a chance to go put up points and
the fact that if Dallas get to really move and
you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to go shot
for shot with I think both teams who coming in
a little bitter, but I feel like us, the taste
that we have in our mount right now is worse
than any loss, because you know you had it.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Right, No, no, you won, you had the game one.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
So this is jo you know what, bro, I'm about
to I'm about to make them pay on offense. So
our offense feeling like we're gonna make them pay, you
know what I mean, because we know we could have
easily just put our team to rest, our defense to
rest and let us and let them watch us drive
that ball and either punt it if we didn't have
it in us kick a field goal or score a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
And we didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
So I really feel like our offense primarily gonna be
hitting on a different Cyllemer.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, I think so too, But also I think it's
gonna be a game flow thing. I think if you're
not basically, if Dallas cou if the Dallas Cowboys are
possessing the football for a long period of time, I
think the score gets low because the number of possessions
are going to be limited obviously, right, But if it's
like hey, defense gets a three and out, we go
down and score, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
gonna the game will let us score more points, which
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I think is definitely possible. Okay, this is one we've
been very confident about the last couple of weeks. But
does Washington win the turnover battle.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Own the road?
Speaker 4 (48:22):
For some reason, we turn the ball over more than
we do at home.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah? I think Atlanta. Yeah, I think most of that
turnovers came on the road, right, I mean the night
we did three times at home.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
So no, no, I mean us getting turnovers on defense
are saying that we get the ball, we get back.
So I'm gonna say, yeah, we do win the turnover
battle because one thing, if Ceedee Lamb comes back, I
can see that going out his way to kind of
force feed Ceedee Lamb the ball. And I think anytime
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you get in the mode of force feeding the wide receiver,
no matter what, it's gonna be turnovers that come from that.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
I see we get at least two turnovers. I feel
like the other night we had two that slipped out
of our hands only because of the I think those
conditions alone, you know, caused us not to come away
with those balls. One was to Frankie, one was the Mikey,
and Mikey catched that ball. Frankie, I know he's a
linebacker's a little different the ball. You know, those guys
don't use their hands that well. But I just feel
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like when you have those opportunities, you can't miss out on.
You know, those gifts you can't because that hurts, you
know what I mean. Normally, when you drop a pick,
it's a touchdown coming behind you, you know what I mean. Right,
So we was fortunate, we was fortunate not to have
that happen both times. But I do believe on the road, man,
we're gonna have something to really we got to make
up for this man. And I feel like our team
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is gonna be more than ready.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Like more motivated, more motivated.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah, I am on the fence about this. I feel
like every week I've been like, this is the week,
this is the week. But I don't want to not
say this is the week. So I'm gonna say hell yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
And I'm really.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Excited because if we do get some turnovers, like we're
going to win this football game, We're going to talk
about Jade and Daniels for our last hell yeah or
hell now. But we got to talk about the US Army.
They say your work defines who you are. Monday through Friday,
nine to five, you're clocking in. But what happens on
the weekend, what happens to your time. You could take
it easy or you could use the time to get better.
In the US Army, we think differently. Your time should
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be used to improve the skills you do have to
learn something you don't, to push yourself in new ways,
because it's those days that truly define who you are.
That's how you make progress, That's how you make an
impact on the world around you. It's your time. How
you spend it is up to you. It's your time.
The US Army.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Reserve, I think I go John after that.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah, guess what I'm I don't know if they take
a step for they take anybody you on your brain.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
But someone else to maximize their time as Jadean Daniels.
And so this is an interesting one because I kind
of I'm excited about it. Yeah, Jade and Daniels out
plays dok Prescott good due, al Wow, good due al
right there, because uh, Jane is one.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Jane is just a big gamer. Like he likes big games.
He liked big atmosphere. There's no bigger atmosphere than Cowboy Stadium.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's just the energy is gonna be flowing. I hate
to be a homer right here, but I got I got,
I got you. No.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
No, what I'm saying is I got, I got, I
got love on both sides, like one is one is
my dog brother.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
My favorite bulldog over there.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
I appreciate with the Cowboys, I appreciate. I appreciate that.
I appreciate that because there's a lot of bulldogs. You
could have chosen you. You chose me, You chose that.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
You know, you.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Know, Mike is my favorite had.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
So what do you think?
Speaker 4 (51:59):
I I think I think it's time for him to
have that game this year. I don't think he has
this game this year. It's weird because he's played so well.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
But he still had that Oh yeah, you know what
I'm saying that he still hasn't came to me.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I feel like two weeks ago was a better game.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
But but the Bears game, he had better numbers.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
He did more like work in the Bears game, and
I was more impressed with even though he fumbled.
Speaker 5 (52:26):
But like I said, those conditions alone make everything just
looked that much cloudy. Like I felt like it was
so much going on with the conditions. I couldn't even
see what was going on when you play.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
With the conditions. We was under the northwest.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Name Norwegian, what's called Norwegian's.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Or northwestern, No, it's northeast.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
Eastern, northeastern or something I know Fred said the word
and I just took it from there.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
I don't know what in Norwegian is what he said.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I did not say. That's what you told me. That's
what you told me Norwegian? Norwegian, Norwegian. You know, you
know the no weed that came up and the can
got everything, but only when I don't know. I just
(53:17):
don't know.
Speaker 5 (53:18):
So hell ya, Yeah, I'm going hell yo with everything,
get in straight up and down.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yeah, I'm feeling optimistic. Yeah, it's a division, and maybe
because I want it so bad. I want all these
things to come through. I want them to get a win.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
I want them to get it back on track. Hit
a couple in the row.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
I'm gonna say Jay Daniels outplays Dak Prescott, which would
be quite the feat because Dak Prescott, Yeah, he willed
the heck.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Of a year.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, that's gonna do it for today show. Please make
sure you like to subscribe wherever gets your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
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