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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How you doing everyone? It is to get loud podcasts.
Anybody seat? Yek and we're on location. Yes, well Verizon
the store Doullas twenty eight. Thank you to a Variezon
for having it. Yeah, you got a nice little crown.
How you guys doing most definitely? Yeah? Oh my? Whoa?
I hope about now? You know one thing about it
lost It brings out a little pain and people.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
So a while I understated state you were talking about
pain two weeks ago on the show, and that's reoccurring pain.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It means it's chronic.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, that's what they're not going away regular visits.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yes, we do have a great show though, Gary Clark
is here.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
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Bowl Wim.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
We got Tanna, not a super Bowl Wim.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Doug Williams super Bowl where we go and it's strong
with the Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
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Speaker 1 (00:58):
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, you know, I still got like the iPhone eleven,
shit out upgrade to the iPhone seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I think you should downgrade keep it. Let's get you
an LG.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
So how are you feeling this morning, because look, it
was a tough game on Sunday Night football.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's not what we expected.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We thought there was something in the air and instead
we're just kind of having a process.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Everything mentally hurt, okay, you know, physically emotionally hurt. You know,
we took one of those and not been a part
of games like that where we have a prime time
game and from the beginning to the end, we just
not in it.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
We're not in it emotionally, we're not in it physically. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
The game plan was a perfect game plan against us,
So it was one of the things we were fighting
uphill battle from the time the game started and we
could never catch back up.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's crazy, like in the first five minutes you kind
of knew like this is just.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Not going our way.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's not going our way in it was one of
them things where Sam Donald dressed up as Damn Marino
for Halloween.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
His career arc is wild No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
His career there are to me is the perfect career
arc for a quarterback. It's this thing where I love
a story. Every time they think they draft a quarterback
in the top five, he gotta be instant grits, he
gotta be instant ready right now. That ain't the way
football players go. You got to go through some ups
and downs. You gotta go through.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Some things and learn from them things.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
And now on the other end of that, hatches of
Baker Mayfield, on the end of that, hatches of Sam
Donald Like that?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
What changes that?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
That what gives you Indiana Jones with somebody willing to
get these guys a second and the third chance to
prove that I could play this game. And I matured.
You don't quit on the teenager because they make mistakes.
You understand they're going to mature eventually. And when they
do mature, they go to find a product.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Isn't a crazy too?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like early in his career, remember he was on the sideline,
He's like, I'm seeing ghosts out there. And then when
he got Mono that one time, no see they worth
the graphic? He said, Mono, and I'm like, this is
what this cat is known for. But now he's turned
all that around.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Maybe he heard us Jenks he talk about that in
the podcast, like I hope you see ghost again.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I hope he wear the just Jerzy the guy got
money over. I think he took it out on the team.
It might be our fault. I mean it's perfect in
the first half.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
No, no, literally did not know White perfect that did
not miss the pass in the first half and Jackson
Smith and jigg.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
That dude.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I heard you guys talking on the Command Center podcast.
It was really interesting.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Is that back in the day and we still see
this at times.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know, if you're looking for like a prototypical X receiver, Yeah,
they have to have a certain size, look a certain way.
These new cats like at BUCA, like J and S,
they're just different. It's all about being precise and doing
the receiver thing.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
And it's all about being able to play all three
our three position slot x Z.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
They can do anything.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
So now we as the defensive back and the defense
we gotta play.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Where's wild though?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And what if I got a corner that man up
on him, that can't play inside?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now he ain't abailable to go inside with him? They
move him. My side.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
They moved him in the backfield, they moved him everywhere.
They understand that people go zero in on him, especially
when the Western receiver was hurt, zero in on him,
try to take him out the game. We gonna make
it impossible for you to take him out the game
because we're gonna move him all over the formation. And
it just made it hard on us man and plus
Kenny Walker. They run the game shopping. They that offensive line,
but that Seahawks defense. I thought they came to play

(04:10):
last night.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Jinx.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well, you know how just we always want to hear
from you guys, so you can get us call on
the house phone.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Seven or three. Yes, we do got a house phone
seven two six, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Seven four one nine, or you can email us if
you want to be new age twenty twenty five washing
to get loud at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
We insisted on a house phone, and the Anna said, guys.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yes, because I remember and just waiting it was something
to the grandeur of it, just just waiting on the
call to come through. So, yes, we do have a
house whom We're taking it back to the basics and.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
It is here by the way, in case you guys
are wonner we'll get a camera on her. Are you
wanna come in Anna? You will say alone.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
She's like no, no, no, Anna really hates the camera
for her to work in the camera business.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
She hates the camera. Yeah, yeah, wrong business. Kaylos Amana
is here. We got new member that.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, everybody's here.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
How the fans doing because we always checking with the fans.
We want to hear from you guys. But you heard
them specifically on the postgame radio.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, they're not doing well. I thought they're not doing well.
I tried to talk about the ledge. It was one
of those things where hindsight is twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, why this? Why that?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
And I say, would you how many times have we
seen Tom Brady go to the end, Payton Manny go
to the end, win.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Lose a draw. That's just a football mentality. They're just
who we are.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
And of course they're emotionally all over the place because
I told them, y'all comparing this year to last year,
when these teams are two different teams, plus this team
that we got this year, they haven't practiced or played
did anything together fully intact, everybody's been injured. Everybody's been injured.
You get one guy back, you lose too. You get
two guys back, you lose three. When you're doing that,

(05:43):
you can't get any consistency on any side of the ball.
Office defense. Now, I was really disappointed in special team
because they have been the Beacon game in and game out,
and last night they did not come to play.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's probably the one the one place I would say
all year long, we're going into every game, I feel
like we've had.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
No no, we at the advantage. You come out in McCaffrey,
get hurts, they're going another one. Not only does he
take away from the special team, but now where's your
other wide receiver? Now another wide receiver that hadn't played
to play that much, you had to play a full game.
So the because of effect of this, these injuries and
these linging injuries, and these are not Deans, This is.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Not he's your season anything.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, this is not I bang my knee up, give me,
give me a couple of days.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I let you know how I feel. This is no.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
The doctor's coming in and he's not gonna be able
to play for two months. That's totally different. And if
you're a coach, you're trying to reach and troubleshoot. If
you're a GM you're trying to find talent, and you're
trying to find talent in the middle of the year.
If that talent was with started talent, it wouldn't be at.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Home right now.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, we can't bury the lead here because we saw
jdu five go down to the fourth quarter dislocated Elbowers
to wait to find out what that means for the
rest of the season.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, certainly doesn't look good. And when you lose, don't
take that back cup half full. You know, That's how
I live. Okay, it was not his throwing up. That's
his left um. So if you got to take anything
away from it, he still can throw the ball and
that's gonna heal faster because he don't need that um.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
So if I could say anything about it is thank
god it was God it wasn't that.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
But don't you think that would be bulky if he
had to wear like a massive brace.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Have you seen Santana's um It's the same. He got
a case of Santana mosshu couple of strays. All of
a sudden, I'm at the end of the days. He
could come back faster from a nun throwing shirt then
he came from. But then you got to ask yourself
why why? And yeah, can he protect himself? That's the

(07:39):
whole thing.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Would you want to even put him in that situation?
I think that's what it comes down to when you
take a step back and look at this season as
a whole. Would you even put a guy who's that
banged up in that role? Problem left leg right leg?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah? Yeah, But like I said, observe him.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I said, if you can always look for a silver lining,
and if it's a sea of lining, it's his none
throwing them. That's the silver lining to me, cup hair full.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I will say it does speak to the kind of
person he is, which is a good transition to Art
Monk till we're gonna talk about that because it was
his not last night.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
That was the best part of last night. If I
could say.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
They did that with class dignitty, it would it looked
good on TV. It was perfect and that we got
the South spoken man to actually speak.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I know, like people don't understand Art doesn't talk. He
was talking in Legends Plaza. I was like, is that Art?
And he was speaking to everybody?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
No, no, no, he was speaking to everybody. He had that energy.
He knew everybody was there to celebrate him.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
And think about it.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
You walk into a building with eighty thousand people in
it and they dare to celebrate you. I like, that's
a very like situation where you feel appreciated and you
want them to know you feel appreciated.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
I'll say too, I was really I don't say taken aback.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I was very affected by how much his teammates love him.
We talked to Rip, We talked to Doug Williams, and
talked to Gary Clark, we talked to be Mitch, talk
to you.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Everybody we talked to.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
The first thing they would say is, oh, let me
talk to you about Art Monk, the man immediate.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yes, that just means he treated people like you want
to be treated. That's the golden ruler. It don't take
much energy to do that.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
And then with him being a quiet, come soul, they
just say, I just want to play football. You can
respect it because everybody got their points on the team.
Where he go your loud guy, Higg, your energy guy, Hig,
your leader guy, Higo, your choiet guy that just leads
by example.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well that's what Art Monk was.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
And you gotta realize this, Art Monk was the Jerry
Rice of the NFL when he retired. People don't realize
that because he don't sell himself like they always say,
how can I buy the oranges off the truck? I
don't know you're selling them. And the one thing about
it is the wide receivers that talk, they sell themselves,
they sell their past, they sell their future, they sell
there now. And he just never been one of those guys.

(09:49):
And I think that kind of affected how long it
took him to get into the Hall of Fame because
he was not on the business of selling Art Monk.
He was on the business of selling the Washington football
team at that time.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
And this is when comparing eras gets a little dicey,
because it's easy to forget a fear of a younger
generation that back in the day, in the eighties and nineties,
this was a running back league.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
People ran the ball first. Now it's a passing league.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
First back in the day was do you have a
bell cout running back like a Rigo, Let's feed him,
then we'll throw the ball. So in today's day and age,
Art would have gone nuts.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
No, no, And you gotta realize it won, but two
teams that was really running and gunning at that time.
It was that Washington team and it was the Houston Allers.
We one Moon and Heywood Jeffers. They was the tall
they they was pushing the ball and spreading the ball
out and they were Then we got realized when Ricky Kine,
Ricky was an H back. They only made Rickety slot
because they couldn't get him off the field because every

(10:40):
time he got on the field he started to make plays.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So coach GiB switched from the.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Two tight ends to putting that h back in and saying,
now you're not an h back, you're the third wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, we got the Lions coming up.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
We also before we get to that, we'll talk about
that game with the legends coming in here to Verizon
of twenty eight dollars.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
How about see Michael Henson dropping by last night, the
man who created the Get Loud themes, the jingle maker,
the jingle man.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
He's a ginger maker.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Thank you, see Michael Man, thank you for That's what
this show does. I think better than any show. We
really include the fans in this show.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
No doubt.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
They basically made the jingle they do it Libing. They
got their own segment on that show, so they tells
you everything about it.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
We're very fan invested, so absolutely got some announcements for you.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
The Commanders will be hosting a food drive on November
ninth that the Lions gave the benefit Joint Base, Anacostia Bowling,
Top three food Pantry and other local pantries as well.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Gonna be a great event.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
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Speaker 1 (11:47):
This is a day of giving. This is it is
a day we don't need a holiday ticket. This Thanksgiving
coming earlier. We just skipping it and going right to Christmas.
Let me tell you one thing.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
As soon as Halloween and the first commercialized sat hey,
hope you enjoyed your Halloween time to get your stocking stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
And so I was like, man, already listen.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
The first thing I saw was pumpkin spice Lotte, and
I was thrown about to throw up in my mouth. Listen, now,
I'm sorry. I'm just not gonna drink and eat pumpkin
for two months.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I'm just not gonna do it. I have never met
anyone who hates pumpkin as much as you know.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I'm the only one that's willing to speak it out loud, okay,
Higgother thing about it is, you don't have to hate
something to just not pay it attention, right like you not?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You don't pay it attention.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
For twelve months, nobody wakes up in April spring. Here,
let me go get some pumpkin soup. No nobody does that.
But soon there's no Vember. Come soon, as I told, come,
it's just pumpkin it. I can't walk in the wild
wild with that pumpkin. I can't walk nowhere, Waldmark nowhere.
So yeah, I do get a cat a little hot
and hors graded about that.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
I can tell you a lot of great guests coming
out before that.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
We gotta pay some booz to do that. You out
of pay all right, let's do it, guys.

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Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yes, you know one thing about a lot of concerts.
I really I really enjoyed the concert part of it.
And you know, I don't know if you watched the
best World Series I think Taylor be played.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
It was incredible. It was the best World series there was.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
And to watch that and watch them be so petty
with the Kim drink lam post, it's so good comedian teams.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
We promised the legends and we were just saying when
you and me were up here, everybody was checking out
all the merchandise.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Operators, all kinds of stuff. We brought the legends up.
It's like, oh, it's something to pay attention.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, no, no, no. We brought greatness that brought rings up.
We brought people that think it's time stamping history. We
brought a history that they loved back. It's a lot
of nostyalgic with these guys.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
You brought Doug Williams. Let's I appreciate you guys trying
to throw me in there with Doug will.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I've been saying, if we can't bring all up with
that putting y'all together, Like I told him yesterday, one
of the best parts of my day yesterday was seeing
the posse together when y'all did the interview for the
pregame show. Because the last time we seen y'all all
on a football field together with the word Washington on,
y'all was holding up trophies.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
There was a whole different time.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
So to see all of y'all back together yesterday was
paying hummage to greatness.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, well, great to have you guys.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
What is it like for you, because after all this time,
I think we all get a real joy of seeing
how close you guys still are to this day.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Oh yeah, I mean it's almost like we pick right up. Yeah,
it's a year, five years, two years, we picked right
up where we're at. I mean, it's just but for
Arthur to have that special day that's long overdue, by
the way, it's long overdue for him to have that
special day. To be able to still be a part
of that special day with him with spectacular and quite honest,

(14:55):
that's the most I've ever seeing.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Him talk the whole day.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
You know, even he had a smile on it something well.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
And it was short, short, But you know what though,
you know the guys that I see was I played
with him a play, didn't play with him.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
It's just a good feel just.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Like you, smooth, I know you play here to me,
I played with you, Yeah, I mean that's my mentality. Yeah,
and had an opportunity to play with Gary and Art
monk Man and Ricky Sanders. You know, I'm three of
the best receivers that ever come through the league as
a whole when you look at it, Yeah, I don't
think anybody could put three guys on the field at
the same time. With the building that these guys, Ye

(15:35):
and Art Mark was in the Hall of Fame, and
it should be there. Some of the guys I see
that go to the Hall of Fame in the world
that Gary shouldn't be considered.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, I can't get overseeing all y'all together.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
But it showed me what a locker room was because
we all got a don't field responsibility in a locker
room responsibility. So you got Art monk who this quiet assassin?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Did? You got Gary? Who is this firecracker? Right?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
He's the fire cracker? Then you got Ricky who's the
talker talking? They called him slick rick for Rea and
why is that?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Because so they all got these different things that they
brought to the table.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Was he done, Dug tell us? Because I asked this
thing situational? Did you go to them situational where you
were like, all right, this is jump ball.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I might Finisa go to Art. All right, I need
a quick dig rade end route, a post route.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I'm finna go to Gary. Ricky does this better? So
I'm gonna go to him in this situation? Did you
have that You just let the play take you where.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
You wanted to.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Let me say this, you know Joe Gibbs designed plays
for all of them. Yeah, number one, Yeah, Gary Clark.
To this day, I never seen a defensive back put
his hand on Gary at the line of scriman. So
he wasn't gonna get touched. He wasn't gonna get I
never seen it. I don't think he had the backbone.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, the way he leans back and Carolyn, all of
a sudden, he's gone, Yeah, you know, Charlie ten hits
with this guy here.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Man, it was the it was it was a joy
to get the ball in his hand as quick as
you could, because he can do so many things with him.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Art Monk was that big guy. He was gonna win
because of his size. He had the ability to push
off then come back. Oh, they come back in the
Super Bowl. Man, that was that was That was a joy.
Just to see him go up and throw it high. Yeah,
he went up over got and took off down the field.
Them the kind of receivers we had though.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, it was y'all.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And like I was saying, the Houston Norfic to me
was the first to really implement the three wide receiver set.
They run and gun, but y'all was still running the ball,
pounding the ball.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
What Joe Gill believed.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
He always told us during the week, if we can
gain one hundred and fifty yards on the ground, we
can control the football game. Yeah, and that's and that's
what we did. He was gonna run the football regardless.
He's gonna run the football. It don't matter because Gary
Clark sometime we go in heavy package and uh, this
guy on the sideline, I can't say some of the things.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
He los, but thinking about it, he was walking behind coach,
don't giving it to him.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
I coach heard every word he was saying, and that
coach stood there with his hand like.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
This, and Gary just saying we got three All pros. No,
I totally understand.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
That eighty eight season though. Yeah, when he sucked in
nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
When did you know, Like when did you know you
look around anything? I think we got something really special here.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah, well, I mean, for my my first Super Bowl
was with Juggie. When Dougie came in the second half
of the season and became our leader, start to feel
like things are starting to change in because all of
a sudden we started winning more games too, and then
we hit by the time with the playoffs, we was
at full spout that you want to hit the playoffs

(18:41):
doing this?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Who was the quarterback that Doug replaced Jay Schroeder?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
So the Doug just had more arm that that opened
up the rest. They all have cannon.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
So the one thing about all our quarterbacks, Joe T
had like everybody probably had the smallest cannon. Even Jo
T had a cannon too, but he was mark rip
my guy right here, bullets like bullets like you know
when Doug was playing for Tampa. Yeah, he's laying on
his butt laying on his button. He throws an outright
to the receiver in the end zone. Hit him perfectly

(19:12):
right then and there. I was like, that's a monster,
a monster. How do you throw sting like sitting down
with the same velocity is if you were standing up.
Just I mean, this gentleman here is And the line,
offensive line loved him. People forget Doug really hurt his
knee in Super Bowl twenty two. Like typically most guys

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went how to came back and played.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Now Doug, he couldn't go back to Louis. Doug knew
he was gonna accepted if.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
He but after that happened, he didn't get touched again. Yeah,
well he didn't get touched again after that. After that happened,
the line just they loved Dugy. They just really did.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I think Gary hit the nail on the head. It was.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
It was the offensive line when you talking about jailing, Yeah,
I mean you can't win no game without the trenches,
the defense offense. And in that Super Bowl our defense, yeah,
played lights out three interception yeah crag Barry Wilburn corner man, Yeah, yeah,
I mean they smothered the receivers. The defense and and
and Avan Walton. Yeah, shattered the air way. Yeah, he

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couldn't get out of the vicat. Yeah, everywhere went Al
Walton was there. Our defense and our interior lineman. I
think was the key in the football game. One time
I turned around on a fifty bang. Yeah you heard
the fifty. I had to chase them fifty. I turned
around and handing the ball to Timmy Smith, and I looked, man,
it was a whole so big.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I could have picked up twenty yards. No, No, that
was the day of Timmy Smith. Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely that that line of scriama
y'all had you You were right, them hogs.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
They moved people. They understood if we win this trench warfare,
we will win this game.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
They're telling They're telling that the Denver Broncos lineman, what
play would go to run?

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I'm telling them that the line.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
I mean, this is only like my third year in
the league, you know, my first super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
So I'm not just the Super Bowl. Shut shut up.
What are y'all doing?

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Like this a freaking be out?

Speaker 1 (21:04):
But I get it.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
They had perfected their craft so well that they know
I can tell you what I'm going to do nobody.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
And he said that we ran a counterplay Jake Jacoby. Yeah,
this is unsged truth. You know, Big Jake at the
left tackle man, he came around and stealed everybody in. Yeah,
Timmy Smith did not get touched. Not eat my hand
on it going through the line of screaming.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's always a happy running back, one that don't get touched.
Did not get touched.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Let me ask you about jo Jacobe because he's made
it through the senior Hall of Fame commitment.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, guy, finally, finally, and what do you remember for him?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's just one great story where this is a guy
who should have been in a long time ago.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
And I agree with you. He I mean, he told
about he's in the final now. He should have already
been there to be un sure. Yeah, yeah, there's no
reason why the offensive line that we had here, it
shouldn't be at least two or three games. Guys in
the Hall of Fame and ja Ja Koby is one
of them, you know you think about Jake.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
J should have been the first.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
Quite, No, No, James, Jake was the only guy that
I know Joe Gibb left alone with Lawrence Taylor.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, nobody else gonna be nobody else over there, nobody else.
Joe is the only guy at Block Lawns tailor one
on one. Yeah. And usually when a group get.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
A name, fun bunch, holl the hags like, once you
get a name, y'all are staple steel curtain in Pittsburgh?

Speaker 1 (22:25):
How many of are steel curtains? All of them?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
All of them? So now you're gonna give me the
excuse of no, we already got one and we can't
put that.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
No. It's a group effort. And that's why I don't
take excuses.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
So we look at other guys who have been close
to that Hall of Fame level, like a London like Mitch.
What do you think when you think about those guys' place,
it's kind of criminal that we're still talking about them
maybe getting Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know, we think about flesh, flesh made, every tackle
that can.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Be made to Ray Lewis and everything, everything be made.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
You take Brian Mitchell, you're putting special team players in. Yeah,
and Brian Mitchell now in.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
That second to Jerry Rice and told the yard, I
don't need to say nothing else saying. And the one
thing about b Mitch he has scored in the end
I mean in the NFL every physical way possible.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
He has returned punts, he had returned kickoffs.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
He has thrown a touchdown, he has ran a touchdown,
he has caught a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
He has made tackers on special teams.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's the only stand he don't got that you can
get is a interception, because I think he.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Got a recover. Kicks the bodybad game.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
He might have kicked the field though, because I know
he played quarterback this game. So when you get a
guy like this, and he said this the other day
and I laughed at him. He is the original slash.
He is the original slash player to the NFL. But
they wasn't given special team players they propps until they
finally got Devil Hesston in there. And I think that
guilty Country said, we might have should have reshoffed this

(23:51):
deck and put him in, yes, and then him well.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Before we let you go.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
When season isn't trending the right way, how do you
pull together as a lower room and say, all right,
we've had a lot of injuries, this isn't how we
expect it, but we still have football left.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Let's get it done.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
I think Number one depends on the coaching staff and
the players. And I think we got the type of
players that in this dressing room that understands that they
know that some of the things that have happened with
the injuries and all that, they're not gonna use it
ass They got to continue to play football, and I
think they're going to do that. I think the leadership
in the locker room don't allow those guys to do that.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
And I think it's the most important because the players
turn it around.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Just what it is.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
The players turning around because you can coach me, but
I'm the player on the field, and when i'm the
player on the field, I'm the coach on the field
as well, so I have to see what's going on.
I think at some point in time, we all go
through times when you're not playing as well like you
like to play, and the team gets together and they
have a meeting. They have a meeting. To keep the
coaches out of it, they have their own meeting where
they sit down and be like, Okay, gods, this is

(24:51):
what we need to do to do better.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Sure you know.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
And the first thing is going to be when you
see practices over how many of those players stay after
practice to work on their cre You cannot become great
at your craft unless you really put it into work. Practice
is practice, but you're individually working on your craft.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
What you gotta do to be better.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
It's really important becoming spectacular, right, and I think that
I think that that's what they will be doing.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I always say when players go down, it's a chance
for somebody to make themselves a household name. And I
always say to the second and third screen player. I
remember when I sit down with Darel Green when I
was a rookie, when I first got here, and I asked, Darren,
how do you play for twenty plus years? He say,
what's my backup name? And like I don't know his name?
He like, that's why I played this long. Don't let

(25:33):
the backup play. So now I'm telling the backup. Now
that you got a chance to play show, then why
be aware of the backup?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Right now? You make a name for yourself.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
We love doing this pot and we always levet when
the legend show up. Guys, they make it easy.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Welcome back to the Get Lived podcast Abode thanks trying
to friends that Verison here at twenty eight dollars.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I look at that your friends.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
One your guy's break some professionalism, that's right.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Take it up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
How you guys feeling after Sunday Nights game that was?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean, why are you smiling so much after a
loss like that? Man? Because I'm a cup half full guy?
All right? All right? The injury to Jayon it hurts
my heart.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
But the cup, the silver lining, it wasn't throwing them
all right, so eventually he will get better. Now, we
did on National TV get beat by your old prior team,
Sam donnad came out there, looked like damn marine over.
You feel like we could not stop him. That defense
looks ferocious. They played a hell of a.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Game as much. Watch out there, Yeah, I can.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Say, but all of us have been in games where
he got out of hand, and he got out of
hand quick, but we had to keep playing. So it's
a mentality of a football player.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Take yourself there, las We've been there. That felt like
that Monday night game.

Speaker 8 (26:56):
Yeah, like watching it, But at the same time, I think, man,
you know, I feel like this season has almost been
like that, you know what I mean, And especially with
just the players that we lose week after week after week.
It's always somebody knew every week and last week, I
mean last night it was three different guys watching it.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Man, it was at times I had hope.

Speaker 8 (27:14):
I had like, Okay, you made a couple of players here,
and then Kennedy like we talked about not beating ourselves,
not shooting ourselves in the foot, winning the turnover battle.
When you put yourself behind the eight ball in both
of those areas, yes, it's almost impossible. I'm gonna be honest.
I had a meet in my head.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
If I felt like the game was getting out of control,
I would look over a smooth you know that I
was about to do. I'm about to make a play.
I'm about to jump some me. He'll tell you, you
know not.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
The one thing about Blue he will get aggressive when
you feel like I get because somebody got to make
a player. I always understood these mentality because it's like,
all right, if I don't make no play, now, we're
finna go down by twenty anyway, So might we sent
on this ball playing?

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Ain't no Jackson Smith and Zigma we double team and
and he getting all Sam Donald, There's gonna be a
chance taking by one of us in the back end.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
And you know why, we we be looking at Sean
or Ryan, like listen, we all.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
Talk about the part part of overcoming coaching, and offensively
you can't. Sometimes you can just like you have to
wait because it's not in your hands to really dictate
you off defensively. I've always said that I've seen guys.
I remember talking to D on the plane talking about,
oh man, look, coach told me to play this this,
you know, way on the tight end.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I said, scraped, And I'm playing the opposite way that
I made a play.

Speaker 8 (28:33):
So when you see that, at times you would you
would think guys are doing that well. But at times
I feel like guys have been doing that outright.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
And then that's when you've seen us getting I feel
what I'm saying. So I was gonna say, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
It's fascinating, like you're like, all right, I gotta make
a play, but can you press too much and all
of a sudden you're not.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
I think the players are calculated like some A lot
of times when we said make a play, we know
that certain things is that you're gonna see it. You
got to make the play inside of the dag. But
you got to have that attitude in your mind.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Like Lessten.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Somebody got to be out here that's willing to make
a play in that and that happens. Give a lot
of credit to Seattle last night because coming into it,
when we talked about it on the podcast, we were like,
Sam Donald solid, he's good. You know, it's just gonna
be the Sam Donald that was great Minnesota last two
playoff games spread and now he's playing very well in Seattle.
But that defense was just outstanding.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
One of the top defensive in football, number one against
the run, some of the best defensive backs, those linebackers
and edge russ they get they get down here. That's
what youth looks like. They have a youth movement in
Seattle right now. You have to win the Super Look
at that team. The only thing can stop them now
is health. Like this one of them things where the
one thing that health is the counter production of is death.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Like if you don't have health, your depth.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Will be ch They got Witherspoon back last night, and
they got a Hooper cup.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yes, and then they got Nick row the safety that
runs a four to three that they just drafted in
second round. He made plays last night. So when I
say they got depth, they got depth.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
So when you look at Seattle as a team, I'm
curious where you put them in the rest of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I feel like we don't pay enough attention to them.
It's a well rounded team right there.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
I think after last night they're considered the top three
or four teams in the NFL.

Speaker 8 (30:13):
What I think we will look at us and say
we're not. We wouldn't probably one. I mean we would
look at that personally and say, you know, they were
something that that we can consider saying they might contend
or be one of those teams. But I think as
a whole other teams in the league, it's like, well
you beat Washington, that wasn't.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
But they came in, they came beating the NFC. You can't.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
You can't dictate the or judge them or get them
that credit until you see them players player.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Against the other top teams. Because just when saym donald
will be tasty, but who is the top team?

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Now?

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Minnesota just beat Detroit, everybody went into the weekend city
and Carolina be green.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Back, like anybody can be beat any given Sunday. So
we agree about that. But when you look at the
Seattle roster, and I like roster like the whole roster
Seattle in Philadelphia to me, in the NFC has the
best roster top. To Bobby, the only thing Seattle is lacking,
which Sam Donald got last year. That playoff experience, he

(31:12):
got some of that last year. Don't reason I picked
Philadelphia over them. They just went won the Super Bowl
throwing You're.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Never out of it the more all year in and
year out, and still find crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's like they don't even like each but they still
win because they have so much task like.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Bobby Brown and knew it.

Speaker 7 (31:35):
I'll tell you one thing about Seattle. They always talk
about if they get you in the Pacific Northwest in January,
that's a hard.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
We're twelve man now they the road warriors now losing,
but when they get on the road, it's it's this
meal against the world.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Men tell you, and they're really driving. If you turn
to a World Warrior going to.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
The playoffs, you're gonna have to travel and defense travel
and running game travel. Can walk in the third carn
the ball shopping, They caren the ball they in the
office line gets no props.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
And that's looks surprising. I ain't even cut you off.
We talked about the run game being you know, something
that we had to look out for because you didn't
want them to be balanced, because you know, if they
doing one, they can do the other. And the run
game was none existing last night. I mean, I mean
they ran here and there. They didn't get over one
hundred yards as a whole. But Sam was just bro
he was he was unplasure. Every time he dropped back.

(32:29):
It was almost like a completion. It got to the
point so that was like, man, come on, somebody do something.
You off side kick him, drop kicking.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Drop just just hold them or something.

Speaker 8 (32:44):
Get a penalty show him, like, man, look, you can't
keep doing this.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
But that's a good point. Sometimes we would we would
say somebody got to hit somebody later.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Something we talked about.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
That, like something NBA basketball coaches like Boby Night throwing it.
Just take, get a take because we need to stow him.
It's almost how like teams played Jordan when he was young.
You know, we're gonna file you. We're gonna let you
get up here, and we're gonna hack. We're gonna hack
you until you real you down. No matter how good
you think you are, don't matter how good we know

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you are. You gonna think twice. And that's what I
felt like last night. I had to get out to
that point where we didn't do enough to him to
make him think twice. You feel man, this was a
walk in the poor road, says, this is seven on seven.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
This is what I be taking up a little. He
didn't have, he didn't have no worries last night.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I remember I read a quote from Sam Coulsell a
few years ago, was talking about trying to defend MJ.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
And he said, when MJ came in the lane, we
tried to kill.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Him, right, And what was like, what is it?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
No? No, No, we tried to kill him. We had it
was the only way to disrupt him a little. And
if you let a guy like Sam don't just sit
back in the pocket.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know, that's any quarterback.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
I always said that a quarterback that's upright is a
quarterback that could beat you. If your quarterback looks you
and I as a cornerback, you beat right. But if
he's fail now he's doing this, Now I got a
chance to go get this ball because he won't be
as accurate, but I can say it is him and
Jackson Smith and they was tied.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
On the screen laser. Does he get two thousand yards?
And we don't even to talk about Seattle more.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
But that's so hard because you never know what happens
down the line. I've seen guys with these these kind
of you know, starts that season and the team kind
of is they're winning so well or they're playing playing
good football, they don't want to they start wrestling them,
you know. I mean, like, hey, let's save them for
the postseason. So who knows, but I think he's on
the man. I haven't seen anything. I have seen a lot,

(34:31):
but just the way he's doing it, you haven't seen
it in a while.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, lines coming up now, and when you look at
last year's divisional game which Amandars won, how much will
that be a factor for Detroit?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
You would think they're gonna have their full of bad
taste the North.

Speaker 8 (34:45):
Remember, I mean I think also to coming into this game,
you would have loved to see us hitting on all celings.
You would love to see us with more of our
man power, especially when you don't have your quarterback that's
out the door. Now it's just a regular football game.
I mean as much if you want to paint the
picture of what we did last year to those guys
at their home.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm sure they were.

Speaker 8 (35:03):
They don't mind coming in here and just ruining it
even more for us. But it's not gonna be the
same when they come to the players that we don't have,
and they a little.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
Pissed off because they lost a tough one against Minnesota,
you know, and they got they got nicked up a
little bit, and you know, but.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
They go there's some flowers in their defense, but that.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
Defense, but that team, they know that that division is
so tight man between Minnesota, and it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
It's the only division with everybody will pack.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
You know, they are they real or their fraud, you know,
and they know like Washington is down without a quarterback,
we got to go in there, and because we can't
mess around in our conference. So I think they're gonna
come in motivating, ready to go.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah, it's easy to beat the army with missing their
general and miss a lot of their soldiers. And like
you said, they do got a bad taste of them mouth.
They're gonna come in here with something to prove we
catching him off of a loss. But they do show
some cracks. And then one of those cracks was JJ
McCarthy being able to beat him with his legs not
his arm the other day. So I'm you know, Marcus
Mariota is one of one of the better backups in

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the league. So I don't think we're giving up on
the season because I think this team got too much pride.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
But but I will say our defense, they Detroit got
two guys on their team, or two guys on the offense,
but really saying on offense, they got two guys on
offense and arguably could be the best at the position.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Gibbs and running back. He's he can do it all.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
Yeah, and then and and and same Brown. He's like
the perfect like slot like one of those guys Hindes Wards.
But but you can't You can't forget about Laporter, you
can't forget about James Mike get the fast receiver in football.
And don't forget about Knuscles running out for Son Montgomery

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like that you want to have.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
The only thing that they.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Are missing is their offensive coordinator being Johnson from last year.
So you can see the offense sputter from time to time.
So if you can get them behind, they turn from
a different team because they can't run the ball no more.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
Tell me this being that we in one of those
situations where you have so many new guys are like
filling these rods. Offensively, we haven't been, you know, hitting
on all ceilings defensively them, so haven't been hitting on
settlings our defense.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Going into this game playing against.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
All that you just talked about, you want to see
a more of a base package, and.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
I think you gotta get but Jered Goff is not.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Marble.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
You gotta get after that. Well, here go think about golf.
You know where he gonna be at. This gives your
pass rustle of the time to get after him. But
the problem is because they run the ball so damn
good on first down, he's never in predictable passing down Like,
it's always a chance this could be a play action,
there's always a chance this could be a run. If
you cannot beat them in trench warfare, which we haven't

(37:50):
been winning lately, you're not gonna have a chance to
beat this team cause they're gonna be ahead of the change.

Speaker 7 (37:54):
That and that's dangers with this guy, like we talked
about Jampson Williams on the outside and they know that
they had of us change and the ain't get you
in a third and one too.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
That boy I heard that he This is what I
heard just the brumlins in Detroit is the Office of
Coordinator hadn't been getting him involved. So he been last
Now he vowed to get him the ball, get him
involved in a week to do it.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
So it's just one of the things where the only
way we could stop y'all is we gotta take all
y'all weapons away, and it's gonna have to be some
some zone coverage.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
They're gonna have to play true being. But don't break
like that.

Speaker 8 (38:27):
I felt we've been saying that, we've been sing the
last few weeks, like.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
We've been doing that in the last few weeks.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
I feel like we've been I saw zero, I saw
the zero touch down in the center.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Still gave up with zero zero.

Speaker 8 (38:38):
So I'm like, if if you got that much confidence
in what we're doing up front, that's the only time
you put your guys in that situation.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, you know, so I think we need to go
straight being, but don't break and try to.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Force guys to three points. And you got to hit
golf too.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I know you touched on that early, but the book
on him is if you can hit him, you can
turn him over.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
That this most pocket passage. Yeah, we saw what we did.
He'll fumble. He'll fumble it right there in the pocket. No,
no quarter big is safe when we know where they are.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
If I know exactly where you are, your only advantage
is to get the ball out quick. We need to
take the early reason why force him to pack their
ball and try to get out of them. Try to
sack him, because we saw what we did last year.
We got them to chasing us by the game.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
You said they run the ball so well, so you
don't but stop them on first down.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
So how about it.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
If you don't stop him on first down, you don't
earn the right used to rush the pass.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Usually there there's a eight in the box type of look,
whether that's covering three sometimes.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
And guess what that allows him to chick to play action.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
So that's why they're dangerous. Because he talked about it
like that first down runners help eve.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
It's given a big place like, how do you mitigate
those somewhat and keep this team in the game.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Now you can't.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
You got to keep fighting, man, You just got to
hope one of these guys just trying to establish themselves
that's replacing the starter they start to make. You know,
like you got to have one of the two of
these guys that kind of play outside of themselves and
started to have those games.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
This like a German Reeves coming in here.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, I wouldn't say this about the X and those,
but at one point it's gonna have to be about
It's about.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
You, I think. I think that's one of the things
that I said.

Speaker 8 (40:13):
I say, you know, eventually I remember being on teams
where and this is talking from an officer standpoint, that
eventually got to make a play, you know, regardless of
when it come, make the play. And I think when
you're looking at some of the things that's going on
and being transferred, I was always bring up the Hall
because he's one of those guys that I've seen him
in our defense where they have him sitting there cover
and got too long and our guys are not hitting home.

(40:34):
They quarterback has all the time in the world, and
d All say, man, guess what I'm finna sit in
between and I'm gonna jump this thing. And when you
see when I when I saw d Hall be able
to take over a game.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
He took over a Chicago game one.

Speaker 8 (40:46):
Time, picked off four balls, and it all started with
him not not playing in the in what coach called
on the field the first time he picked it off.
So now he got the quarterback guessing like, oh, well,
he's doing his own thing. Now he played it right,
and we're not damn mad in another place. So I
just feel like defensively for us, it got to be
one of those guys because we've seen it week in

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and week out.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
People are dialing up on us. Somebody's gotta go out
there and make a play. Yeah, you know my favorite guys, Frankie.
How do we get Frankie question? That's because that's something
I think the position has changed.

Speaker 8 (41:17):
I think from what we saw last year he was
coming more in between the tackles on his blitzers and
stuff of that nature. Now he's coming from now he's
been on the edge. He's been on the edge exactly.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
So, but he's a guy that you know, we can
That was the same.

Speaker 8 (41:32):
Reason for us to get fifty eight and he's flashed
both weeks.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, well, he go think about Frankie, is it's differ
between hunting and being the hunted. Last year he was
Frankie Louvu, traded from I mean a picked up a
free agent.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Nobody is zeroing in on him.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
He was.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Now this year they're hunting him down and saying, hey,
number four hen't been passed rushing no matter where he's at.
And I think players get affected friendly. Like I always
always tell people, is do you really know that number
two I receiver? Good?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Is he only good because he's number? Like?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
They go all the questions and the number one was
Bobby Wagner, forgotten about guy was Frankie Louvu, And now
I think they're switched.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Before last night, Skinn there were nine guys on the IL.
So now you've got even more injuries with Jaden, with Luke,
with Sean And not to make excuses, but it's a
real thing in the NFL. So when you're losing games,
when you got so many guys banged up, how do
you come together and say we've got to keep going here?

Speaker 1 (42:32):
It's mid season.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
Yeah, last year they talked about a thing that that
was brotherhood that I thought would carry off to the season.
When we all did training camp, we looked at this
roster from top to bottom, for one of the things
that we said was like somebody good is gonna get cut.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
So we felt like there was a lot of death.

Speaker 7 (42:47):
So with that type of death, Tanna said it earlier,
somebody got to step up at this point. You on
this roster for reason. So the standard is the standard.
Dana set the standard like we ain't We're gonna work
when you come in the game. Man, this is an
opportunity for young boys to make their name and come
out of nowhere and do something.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
This is how you find the Antonio Pierces of the world.
Antonio Pierce got a chance to play because I am
midle linebacker.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Barrett got hurt, all right.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Ryan Clark got a chance to play because I say
to God, this is our career stoy. So if I
got anything to tell these guys, you're not a backup
no more like you are started in this league. Embrace it.
Make them never not let you be a starter again.
You have to earn that win, lose a draft. This
is opportunity. I know it don't feel like opportunity. I

(43:36):
know the fans are mad, I know they disappointed, But
this is opportunity for somebody to develop into a player.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
What's a message from DQ to make sure that this
locker room, everybody does not fracture and it stays together,
like you get an opportunity, but also we're together in
this US.

Speaker 7 (43:50):
Against the world. Yeah, but that's an all fall on
DQ two. Part of having a veteran locker room, which
urged Bobby. Guys, you know they're having a room. This
is when the leadership that each guy each room has
a as a veteran guy that's gonna say, man, we
all pull together, whether it's Tanner and Hurtain there, whether

(44:12):
it's me, would smooth him being my sidekick. You know,
somebody got to be in the room that said, you
know what, guys is on us and what I'm saying
does just fall on the couch.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I think.

Speaker 8 (44:21):
I think, you know, he has so much of he
always bring back that background, of that military background, and
that's how guys I think. Now, this is what people
got to put their backs against the wall and see
who's who's going to step up, who's going to who's
going to take responsibility saying guess what, man, I'm gonna
go out here and and be that guy. I'm feeling
that void and it's all about lead. It's right now,
our gut check, you know, let me see what you

(44:43):
made of.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Can you remember a situation in any one of your
playing careers where you're going through rough pat you had
a player a coach pulled aside and say something.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
And it just it spoke to you.

Speaker 8 (44:51):
Yes, Yes, I talk about mind all the time. I
was going through it bad and O seven and Sean
happened to pass and before he passed, I don't know
if it was when after he passed, but Gary came
and talked to us. And I'm sitting on the knee
right in front of Gary, you know he You know,
the coaches always have, you know, old veteran guys who
played on some of his championship teams come out and

(45:12):
talk to the team. And Gary looked around and said, man,
wait eighty nine and at and I'm literally sitting right
on funder him.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
He didn't even know I'm right here. He say, I
haven't seen the freaky first down all year long? What's up?

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Man?

Speaker 1 (45:23):
And I needed that? He didn't even know.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
I told him, like a probably a year later, I say, bro,
you turned something on in me because I had been
cussing Jason Campbell out under my breath right because I
ain't getting the ball and not coming when I wanted.
It's coming hot, it's coming, you know. And eventually I say,
you know what, screw how the ball coming?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Make a play.

Speaker 8 (45:43):
He just he just basically challenged me to make a
play because he said, I haven't seen you doing your
first down dance.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
And then that was that was the day? Was what year?

Speaker 7 (45:51):
It was the same year I was done what you
know obviously shine and that my dad was in came
so I was on the road.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
But smooth, tell you. He pull he pulled Brad Williams
put us in the room. He said, y'all gonna have
to win it. He said, y'all too, He said, YouTube
right here, man and man.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Time, we're not gonna hide it. Were for to put
y'all on the island. You got him, you got him
and games it's gonna be on y'all.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
To Our defense is gonna win and lose. Our team
is gonna be gone if y'all y'all play.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Everything about it. We won that year.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
No, we won the last right were locking the because
we understood the mission and we had some other to
play for you. We just lost some brother, I promise
you this. I done played on some good teams. I
don't played on some focused teams. I had never seen
a team focused like that. We was on like we

(46:44):
couldn't even tell when people were hurt. They weren't even
in the training room much. It was just that, man,
let's go to work. After work, We're gonna work a
little harder. And we know the mission. We got Minnesota
coming us of them, that's going to the playoffs. We
start the game up, they already know whos gonna win,
like we already.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
We was already that we had the moment them. I
remember you guys coming together that week.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Man, it turned up being a great season, like a
really rememberable one after.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Well, yeah, most definitely, most definitely like and did go
guys stepping up and making name for this. If our
quarterback went up, Todd Collin the chief stepped in and
made place. So we had guys stepping in all over
the place. Reduty have to step in here, step right in.
We didn't miss a beat. So that's what I'm telling
this team. All ain't lost, fight for something.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
It's always next man up in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Want to see more of that from the Commanders this
week as they get ready for the lines and always
thank you guys for me with us myself.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Once again, thanks to Verizon for having us here at
twenty eight dollars.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Man, it's a nice shot. Got fans out here here,
you guys coming down.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
We didn't really came up. If we're doing shows in
the form store, we.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
First start rising.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Say you guys getting this closet. I think we're listen.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
We was doing it anywhere we can get it done,
but now we're doing it with Verizon.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Come on, man, let's go.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
It's time for cut water confessions. I don't see any
cut water.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I guess no drinking on the job, but I do
got some confessions.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Okay, I heard that we played each other in fantasy football,
you know with our league indoors.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
You just heard that. I just heard that, and I
don't five seconds ago. My confession is I don't even
know who's on my team. I don't know why I'm
five and three. I haven't put anybody in. I haven't
taken anybody out.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
It's Jason's fault unless Jason has maneuvered this thing and
made it to where he gonna make sure Smoothalytics lose.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
And I'm fine with that. I'm fine. I've been cheated before.
It doesn't do anything. Is he leading the league that
he is? Yes, he's leading, Yes he is. It's fine.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Like I said, I don't believe that Tanna changes he is.
I don't change mine. And for some reason, I just
beat you and didn't even know it.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I know, and I kind of pay attention, but he
took it to me. I think I'm in ninth right now,
four and four whatever.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Well, you the good part about it. I'm not even tried.
I know, Rush, I'm just a womer.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
See Michael Henson all over the show. Yeah, and who
wrote the get Loud theme song?

Speaker 1 (48:57):
At the jingle?

Speaker 4 (48:58):
So he asked you, is this season.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Like the body Bag season because of all of the injuries?

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Which I think is a really fair question, you know what.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I like the way he phrased it.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Because the body Bag game we witness twenty players get
taken out of one game, be Minch had to play quarterback.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
That should tell you everything. It is as.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
The season goes on, and it's not just players, it's
our best player. And I think that's what's making it different.
You gotta realize we've been with half the season. Without
our starting quarterback. Half the season, without our starting wide receiver,
the whole season, without our starting running back, the whole season,
without our starting scrong safety, the whole season, without our
start defense end the whole well half the season with

(49:40):
the two next defensive ends. So every time we get
somebody to replace these guys, that guy also is taking out.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
So see Michael Henson.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
This will be titled the body bag seasons. The bodybag
season is the reason. That's what I want feelm to know.
Reason ain't the team, The reason is we just not here.
The healthy teams win. If you remember last year, we
was one of the most healthy team in the league
when we got to the playoffs, were still fully intact.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
All right, not this year so much. But that's the luck.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
That's the luck of football. And sometime you got it,
sometime you don't. But there's no rhyme or reason for this.
You can't look at the trainers, you can't look at
the field, you can't look at.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
The other team.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
The other team get paid to inflict pain and we've
been taking the pain.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, sometimes you have to have a little bit of lower.
We're here with the Patriots right now. They're very similar
to the way the Commanders were last year.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Year.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, young quarterback right, Yeah, got a newer head coach
right in there getting things done.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Everybody's healthy. We're kind of seeing that.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
New moving But like you said, they're a healthy team.
Everybody's intact that the roster they started the season, it
is the roster that they got right now. We hasn't
had the luxury of that, not even with the offensive line.
Sam Cosby just got back three games ago. He's trying
to get his legs up on him. So it's just
one man in, one man out, and you can't win
with them. Inconsistencies like that.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, cut water.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Confessions sound the real confessions.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
You got another one besides the fact that I did
not pick.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Yeah, you got some personal we need to know about.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
My feelings were hurt last night. I got emotional. What happened.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
I cried because the team, because of the team.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Oh man, I turned my head, went in, went in
the bathroom, let three tiers out, and came back out
as a man.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
All right. It's one of the things.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
My two tiers in a bucket. Hey, the thing is.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Man like, cause you know, I talked trash to people
so on a night like this, my phone is blowing up.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I'm getting textas from people.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Uh my guys at bar Stewd they are just they
do I don't even think they sleep, and they're not
really checking on you.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I'm just checking on you to make sure everything's is
good over there. I'm like, come on, dude, no you don't.
You don't care. They're like, yeah, we don't care, but
we care about what we just saw on the TV.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
So it's one of the things where where you pick
at people and when they get their chance to pick back.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I cut water confessions. I couldn't take it last.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
My cut water confession is we won Halloween costume contest
as planned?

Speaker 1 (51:57):
And how did what did you go? Close out?

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Because people are not really going as characters anymore more
than they going is movie characters. I think movie characters
what they're going after night like, so now you gotta
really find all who what they dressing up is and
who is she?

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Who is he? Like, you gotta really focus. Now.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
We did a very DC centric thing where if you've
been in the city.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
You know the spotted lantern fly Like those things are
everywhere and you're supposed to just kill them on.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I so hated everywhere, the only one hated worst of
them in justicating Yeah, that's the only one.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah. So the lovely character and she's awesome at costume design.
She created.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
She bought all this fabric and stuff off of Amazon
and like ink pens and can work a sewing machine.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
She put together a spotted lantern fly costume she wrore.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I was a shoe thirty dollars off of Amazon, So
I went around squishing her the whole night.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
One of most creative. I get this. I get it.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Actually, I like when people put thout in it because
I hate I hate going to a Halloween. What it
did is like these five people that just walked in
the party, like you didn't know you was coming to
a Halloween party.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Who was you dressed at the dude that to sell
me let? What are you talking about? Like like you
had to put a little energy.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
So I respect you and Lady Catherine for putting energy
in tank.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
You my man?

Speaker 4 (53:14):
What are we doing here the tailgate debate?

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Anna, No, no, no, I lest yesterday while I do
my stuff for pregame.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Oh yeah yeah, I go to.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
The tailgates and we popped beers together and have a
little fun. Yesterday, we had this group I think they're
from New York, young podcasters, and.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
They had this tailgate debate.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
So I watched them debate, and I watched him roast
the first dude that said that I was a Washington dude.
So what you got to do is he would ask
you questions like how can Washington turn around? How can
they do this? And then he'll turn around and debate you.
And he was hurting people. So I sit down at
the table, because you know, I love a good tash,
and I kind of chewed him up and spit him

(53:54):
out that you. Diana asked me, what was my technique
of doing this? If you really want to win a
de bait, don't let the other guy talk. So I
did not let him talk.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Just kept like a.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Three minute debate. I talked two minutes forty five seconds.
I was on the debate team and I won because
I would never let them get their port across.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
If they don't know your point, you can't win.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
That's the most believable thing you've ever told me.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
You're on the debate team.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I was on believed team and I was great. I
was the captain, and yesterday I got to put my
skills front and center against the youth. It's something about
getting old, because do you think they could do everything
better than you? So it was a youth versus age challenge. Yes,
that one for us. Old dude.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
If you want on the debate team in high school
and then you played quarterback in the National Football League,
I don't know if there's a better preparation for a debate.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
No, you know what I mean. You're always talking, man, because.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
You always got to fight that mental better inside of
your You got a debate with yourself.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I just gave up a ninety yorder. Am I good? Yes?
You are the greatest. That wasn't your fault. There wasn't
That was a bad play call. Know how your shoulder like?
Don't you believe deal? They don't know the real you.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
You are good and this this is the debate that
I have to win constantly as a defensive bag. So
I take those skills into life too, because you got
a problem solve in life.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
I am into that. But that's gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
For the Get Loud Podcast for as anybody seek Geek,
thanks to all of our great guests, Thanks to the.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
People to shut up today here at dollars twenty and thanks.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
To our friends at Horizon as well, yes next week.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
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