🎙️ ESPN’S Tom Luginbill on Commanders 2025 Draft Class, NFC East Rankings & Retired Numbers | Get Loud | NFL - Command Center Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Then we'll talk about the twenty twenty seven draft and
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
We had barbecue, you know, and I'm glad we had
the conversation about, you know, the barbecue because call me Neanderthal,
called me a guy like to do it the the
original way.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
People with gas grills. We'll never get along.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'll tell you what. This was definitely a hot time
I've been in the comments.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, no, no, because it's true. Like I've had people
say smooth, come to my barbecue, and I'd.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Be like, I'm not doing anything, said yeah, I stopped through,
and I stopped through it.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I come in the backyard and my homewoy be like, yeah, man,
come on through. I got the grill of going and
it's a gas grill. I politely turn around, I say bye.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
And I leave and you never talk to them again.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
No, they can come to my house where I got
the wood chips, I got the colds going, like I'm
so deep in it.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I would go seek out certain.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Wood from like plum trees or fruit trees, pear trees,
all really to really get that flavor going in there.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
So that's what we do down in Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Mississippi, I don't know why we don't get the prouce
for barbecue. One of the best pieces of barbecue you
ever eat, Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
What if I invi you over for barbecue and then
I pulled some some like hamburgers out of the microwave.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I'm not gonna eat it, Like I'd be like, just
have mere beer miney you like I'm still here, Like
I'm just I'm gonna come here for the state for
thirty minutes because I know I don't want to eat
the food, right like, so I'm not gonna say anything crazy.
I'm just gonna be I might look at you a
certain way. That's propane, so I'm giving you sickness. They propane. Yeah, man, propane.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Look at this grill like, well, you know what here
in the next couple of years, it might be some
barbecues before the NFL draft?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Are you kidding me? Twenty twenty seven on the National Mall.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I wanted to say this came out of nowhere, but
it felt right once we heard the stadium site possibly
on the rfk's very close to happening, not official just yet.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So this just all makes sense.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
No, it's just one thing at to another. We are
coming back into the fold. It's best you can.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
The nation's capital has always been been one of the
best places to host gigantic events like this, Like if
anybody prepared for it, it's DC. DC is totally prepared
for We got we got enough hotels between DC, Maryland
and Northern Virginia. We got enough places for everybody to
go to National Mall. It's used to holding dead amount
of people. I'm gonna go out and see it right now.

(02:58):
We're gonna break all the attendance records because we got
too many major cities with major teams too close to us.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
They said, close to a million people.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Maybe think about this. Let's not worry about California in
the forty nine ers. Let's not worried about the Arizona Cardinals.
You got the New York Giants.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Market share with the Jets market driving four hours.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
You got Philadelphia driving two and a half hours. You
got the Baltimore fans coming down forty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
North Carolina's nowhere from here.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
You got so many football teams that's stuck in this
hub right here. There's nowhere Pittsburgh nowhere from here. So
at the end of the day, it's the perfect marriage.
It's the perfect thing. I cannot wait. Not the only
thing that will make that better. In twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
If they let the twenty sevens of the team do
the second pick, which they should, which I woe to
two seven. Brad Edward's water two seven, So we could
walk out there together.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Just imagine people out there and they Fred Schmooke comes
out there.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You do you that would be the loudest smooth you have.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
And guess what's gonna bleed into it? The Philly fans
and the Cowboy fans in the New York Giants fans boo,
and it's just gonna just electrify. They'll be able to
hear that bull in Baltimore. Nothing would crank me up.
You have to send out if you housing it and
you're doing it at home, you got to send out
some agitators. Oh yeah, you got to send the best

(04:30):
agitators you ever had out there to really bring some life.
And I would be privileged. I would be on.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Your face like the joker like this.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm like, I can already see your mind working. And
the thing is, you got a couple of years to
get ready.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
No, I don't need I hope it happy next sark
and say you can do it now. It's just the energy.
It's no energy is metched from an NFL crowd. And
this NFL crowd is unlike any of the NFL crowd
because they're not really there to go against each other.
They're there at the party together. So it's it's this
brotherhood of NFL fans. But then is The only time

(05:07):
is the divide is when a draft pick is picked
and it's in your division, so you're gonna boom them.
But other than that, no, this is this is what
the NFL been need right now.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
That backdrop with the Capitol, oh my god, and the monuments.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
You see the renderings.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yes, you can't beat that. Jinx man.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Listen, all I know is I hope, I hope I
make it to all the events.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I should make it. I supposed to make it to
that week because it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
A it's gonna be a tough week for you, a
good way.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It's gonna be a very tough week for me.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Like I will be challenged that week, right, I will
be challenged personally, I just be and professionally.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yes, I'm ready for it. I understand.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
That's why I say I need me and Brad Edwards
two an interceptions in Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Let us do it.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
And you do want to love about it too? Is
that Roger Goodell like he's he used to go to
game an RFK. Yes, so he wants football in DC
to be relevant. He wants the draft to be here.
He wants to take them to be at the RFK site.
So when the commissioner is on your side. Yes, obviously that's.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
A huge deal.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
He's been here twice in the last month for the
stadium announcements, sitting in there, hardy heart hard by golly.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Then he comes right back for the draft.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
With the biggest smile on his face. Back in the
nation's capital. This is where everything belongs. Man, Listen, I
cannot wait. I think it's the perfect venue to throw
it at. And I think the football fans are gonna
be blown away about how fun and accessible DC is,
and they are like, we're gonna make this much revenue.
I look at the small people. Do you know how

(06:42):
much a uber driver is gonna make that week?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh my god, that week is gonna be crazy.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
First for you, mister uberman himself.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
You might not get to work, but I might not.
Like what about me getting here, honey me?

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Now, I'm just saying, like, the small thing that people
in DC are used to are gonna be hard to get.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's gonna be double everything.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, it's gonna be Stopbucks, I'm going to you want
some coffee?

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, twenty people in that line at least, So every
little minutia will be to the next level.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
So it's gonna be one of them tired.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, I think the people that live in the city
gonna have to adjust more than the people that's visiting.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
And you know, people have different ideas about what DC
is like. You need to be great for other people
to come and actually experie it.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, because when people say DC, they never say water, right,
they never say water. Well, we were sitting on a
ton of it, right. Bolding is a big thing every Sunday,
and say it.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I'm usually bolden.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I started to say, you'll roll up in Georgia.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, listen for Toma. I'm usually on it. Do you
know what that water gonna look like that weekend? How
many people gonna be bringing their boats out?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
It's going to be insane. I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
How was Franklin Hall?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh money?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
You gotta tell me others.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
By the way, if you're interested in the stadium news
the very latest, you can get it at Commanders dot
com slash new Stadium.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
So I watched the podcast, Yeah, I wasn't being there.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
First of all. It was a great podcast, great crowd,
but we had some discrepancies going on scenes. Okay, you know,
we were doing the show.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Fred's feelings were hurt.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
What happened?

Speaker 5 (08:11):
He's not off the bench.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
I thought I was Jamal Crawford. Yeah, I'm not all right.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I'm being a start of my whole life. And see,
we were supposed to set up the show for five. Okay,
it's me Logan B Mitch Tanner BC.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Okay. A couple of mics didn't work, so we had
to rotate.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Okay, So we were sitting over there on the bench
while the other guy was starting the show off.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
And I'm over there talking to the logan like you
used to this, ain't you? I like to start and
in that thing. But isn't it?

Speaker 7 (08:43):
It was?

Speaker 4 (08:43):
It was very fun. We had fun, you know. We
rag each other like that, so it was fun. It's
always fun to get out there with the crowd, man
and the people that support you. And sometimes I'm rather
blown away and shocked about how many people tune in
weekly to these shows, and people always telling me that's
how I get through my job day just listening to
y'all rend So I like how fan bases get to

(09:08):
get this next level of entertainment when it comes to
knowing stuff about their team.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
They don't have to tune into the national shows.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
That's gonna talk about your team three minutes, maybe only
if something good or bad is happening.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And they don't know the little nuances of the little things,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, they don't know what goes on in the building.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
So I think for us to give them their information
in them to give us how they feel back, you
can't beat that.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Plus, there's something about meeting fans and sometimes you get
to put a name with it face.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, yeah, most definitely, because they know your face, they
know your voice, they know everything. So it's always good
to get that hand shake, that hug, let them know
that we're a family.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
We're a football family.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It works.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Guys, be sure to stay tuned because there will be
more events coming up throughout the month. We can't say
anything too much about that LOUD, but I know we
have stuff in the works forget LOUD. I know there's
stuff in the works for ccpods, So tune. There's a
lot of.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Fun and we got some more live events coming up.
I than I already did five six football camps. We
got at least fifteen more. Like we're in the community,
we outside the Commander's outside.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
It ain't nothing. We ain't touching right now.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's gonna be exciting and also exciting on this show.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Tom Louganville coming up here in a few minutes, so
he'll talk about the Commander's draft picks. So let's do
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Speaker 2 (10:28):
So Anna likes to peruse cddit well the youth.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Which I'm a rudder for talking about, recommend praising, read
it all the time for the record, I don't know
if it's not healthy.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
I'm gonna say I used to be.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
A big ready guy, but kind of you know, as
you get older. Yeah, you don't want to all that noise.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
There's a lot of noise.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
You like everything to quiet down.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Because the one thing about Reddy, it's meant to go
back and forth like it's meant to challenge each other. Yeah, verbally,
writing word is meant to be that stage.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
So you got to know what fight you're getting into.
The fight usually goes you're making a point, I make
a contraririon point. You don't like it, So here comes
the insult like almost immediately, what's cool?

Speaker 4 (11:08):
You went to right, they ain't teaching nothing is this combative,
But sometimes you need that help.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
They war going inside.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
You got to be careful. But I think something we
found on Reddit. I found was this NFC East position
rankings chart. Shout out to whoever made it. I don't
know if you tuned into the podcast, but had to
take a look. And the first thing I want to
comment on, because we were talking about this in the
office before we walked in, it was the wide receiver
position group. Looks like the Cowboys are working on something

(11:38):
with the Steelers. We're taping this on.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, it's almost slily, it's our most complete.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
We think that position group we have Eagles, Commanders, Cowboys, giants.
Do we think anything changes in that ranking?

Speaker 6 (11:52):
All? Right?

Speaker 4 (11:52):
When George Pickens and cd Lamb hookup, I think that's
a good different core. Now you've got your tall rigs,
one guy that can also get deep.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
You got Ceedee Lamb. Now, I think.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
When the numbers come at the end of the year,
George Pickens numbers might be very similar to what he
did in Pittsburgh, while cdee.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Lamb number explodes. Yeah, because the double team gone. They
can't double team him anymore, all right.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
And now I hear from Schadheimen that they want to
run the ball more. So it's gonna be more play action,
all right. So he gonna get his on the big plays.
He gonna get his underneath Cede Lamb.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, does that change because right here, at least in
this reddit list, Yeah, he got Eagles number one receiving corps,
which I get that.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I get it. Super Bowl winners right, then you.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Have us, then you have Dallas, but this is Dallas
before George Pickens. You have the Cowboys getting pickings. Does
that move them ahead? Other commanders are now?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
All right?

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Terry pro bowler, he d bow Ben a pro bowler, Ben,
all pro. George Pickers never been a pro bowler, all pro.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
He said, three seasons. Some would say he's underachieved a
little bit. Potential is there? Ceiling is there?

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Also he's a psychopathy.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
I caen say, the the person inside like the person inside.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And we've seen this story before when it comes to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Pittsburgh is ran so good from the top down, and
Tumbley does such a good job. Kind of keeping people
misfits in order.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, that's the thing too, is that if any coach
I feel like is equipped to handle any play that
might be a misfit, moulcontent, it's Mike Thomas's Mike Thomas.
So if the Steelers say, you know what, we don't
want to do this anymore, how do you think that's
going to play elsewhere?

Speaker 4 (13:35):
All right, let's go through some receivers that played at
Pittsburgh that eventually left. I think it's only one that
actually career went that way, and that's Plexico Burds.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Now you look at the other guys that leave that
got a little baggage their career because Pittsburgh is so stable,
they don't usually blossom in other places. So you got
to bring that in to perspective also. But is it
good for DAK Yeah? Is it good for CD LAB Yeah?
But I think it's contrarion, like you, what's your cup

(14:10):
of tea? Because we're more closer to Philadelphia than we.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Are the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
As a wide receiver, absolutely, yeah, So Terry and Debo
compare more to those guys than they do to these.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I think when you mix in the quarterback, we still
stay at too.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah, I think so yeah, yeah, I think if you
mix in and say, you know what, well, who got
the better quarterback?

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Since they so even we got the better pla.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'd love to see MacCaffrey step up to and be
a guy who contributes to which he absolutely can.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
And don't forget we got lame, like we got some dudes.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Dudes now in here, you know, like we have a
chance to have a way around the group because we
got to force multiplier. When you got to force multiply
your quarterback, you don't need to have the best wide.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Receiving in football.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I always say, since Jerry Rice the best for our receiving,
football ain't really one super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, I guess that's true.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well that just like I have this argument out of
time with Logan about edge rushes.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Okay, what would you rather have an edge ied D
tackle dominant?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I would say I bet Logan says as and you
say to the tackle, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
As a defensive player, think about it. What top three
detac I mean, edge Russia has won the Super Bowl
last fifteen.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Years, bon Miller, that's it.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Now, let's go D tackles Aaron Donald, Chris Jones, the
shortest way to the quarterback is right there, right, And
if I disrupt.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
In the middle, it takes longer to get around the edge.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, Like if I got disrupted in the middle, I
stopped the run game in the past game.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
The Eagles defensive line for the Jay call.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, like every time I look up. But guess who
they had on the edge sweat. These guys are not
top ten edge rushing. They just got paid, like because
everybody got this misconception in their head. If you ain't
got no edge, you got no pass rush. No give
me interior pass rush, and I could dominate the game.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
When you look at tight end ring. Yeah, so they
have zach Ertz ahead of Dallas Goddard. Gallard looks like
he's going to resign with Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
You agree, I agree?

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, all right, And I know they got to make
that is God to feel bad because I kind of
pushed you out of town and you still establish yourself
as the best tight end in NFC.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, so they heard a little bit.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
But he did have more touchdown catches, more clutch catches,
So yeah, I could see why they graded it. But
me and you are shocked because.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Of the youth.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I think that's what it is more of anything else.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, because Dalla Godda is younger, you would think you
would pick him, right.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Like and Theo Johnson not a bad tight end in
New York. Theo can play. So it's some guys there.
But I'm not shocked about that, now I am. I
wouldn't say I'm shocked, but think about this. Out of
position them. Let's say, out of the number one spot,
we got quarterback, we got tight end, we got linebacker,
we got a head coach.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
There's more top spots than the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Who made this list. Uh, you not knocking him. I'm
just saying, like you have to take that into account.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
No, tear maker. He might not be a Washington fan.
Are you trying to say he's a Washington fan?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (17:08):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
We just found it.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
I fully pulled this from like I said, read it
they You know, I think if you're looking at this,
you're looking at it through the lens of a Commanders fan.
Commander's fan, Eagles one super Bowl. I mean, if we're
looking at quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
We got quarterback. We got the better quarterback. Now, then't
think I running back.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
I think is the kind of no brainer.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
No, this is why I say this thing might be
made by an equal fan that probably took a couple
of votes from his homeboys.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Homegirl. Check this out.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Look at the second line, that's all Eagles. That means
they just deeper than everybody. Like, think about it. At
number two, they got the number two quarterback, they got
the number two tighty end, They got the number two
D line, which to me, they got the number one
D line.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
We can we can debate that.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Maybe are they I wonder if they're rating it on
like individual players.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, they know it's the group.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
What about DQ had a Syriani.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's like you got the ring, you've been to two
super Bowls, you got one, but also you're not as
beloved by your play.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Like it's like.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
It's something it's a love hate relationship. It feels like
to me, the city will feel of death. You say
we're gonna hold on to you as long as you win.
It like it don't seem to It's like, if you're winning,
all right, all right, but after this, we don't have
your back no matter what.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, Like it don't feel like a marriage.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
He was chirping an Eagles fans at.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
The beginning of the season.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah, like, and I understand why, like they hard on
their own, but it seemed to be something you know,
how you go out with a couple and they trying
not to but they right, but then they yeah, then
they turn around and say, yeah, we ain't never had
a better happy six years and that, like I can't,
so come on, come on, like no, So it seems

(18:58):
to be a little tight marriage there. But everything else
safety cornerback. I can't believe they gave Daly's the cornerback position.
Is it because of Reveil?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I guess Blaine.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
When you got Blad, you got digs, but they got
cooping the Jean they got Quinn Mitchell, Quinn, you on Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Maybe they just saying that that is Cowboys veterans out.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
That's the one thing where I was like, am I
not familiar enough with the Cowboys secondary?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I feel like that should not be number.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
Maybe they felt like they needed to give the Cowboys fans.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Saundy threw them a bone.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah, well, I'm happy that.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Was pretty much the only bone you could have threw them.
But I can't say this their draft.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
You're really hot in their draft.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I was so high on they draft, Like, I'm not
gonna hate on lit Jerra litt Jerer can draft.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, lit Jerer can draft. Now I give him that.
Now he can draft some players.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, let's see what you got saying, voicemail and email time.
Give us a call seven or three seven, two six, seven,
four one nine. Also, Washington, get loud at you melt come.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yes, Well, you guys will have to tell us what
you think about this position rankings list. Like I said,
I think, yeah, there's some things that can be disagreed upon.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
But well that's what the listener is interesting.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's what the listen is for. But they
also tell you the NFC East is back. And I
hate to tell people this.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
We are only good when all of us good. This
is not one of those divisions that plays well when
just one team is good. Like you can go back
to the eighties, the nineties. We're all good at the
same time. And that's right a iron.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
And man, that's when that's when the competition, that's when
it's really excit.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
That's when this becomes what is always being And this
the NFC East is a beast.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Love it, love it, love it, love it. Well, moving
on to a little bit more of a draft centered discussion.
We got an email from a fan that said, Hey, Anna,
Jenks and Fred, I hope everyone is doing well. I
had a question for Fred. With his good cornerback eye,
with the great coaching we have here now, could you
see Trey emo is becoming the next Patrick Surtan the second.
Thanks for your thought and if y'all ever need anything

(21:04):
in the seven five seven, just let me know. Born
and raised here so I know everything. And Jones email
I be.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
En Richmond at dayre Green's golf tournament the weekend of
the seventeenth and Monday the eighteenth, so I'll be close
to the five seventy five.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
But uh, I.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Mean, what a pots.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
That's tough. You don't do that to people like you know,
it's almost.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
You're setting the bar, Like I understand that's the ideal,
But when you're setting the bar as arguably the best
in the game, that's a tough part.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Say don't do that. Let him get in the mix first.
Let's see him run with his teammates. Do we got talent?
Is he long light pass? Certain?

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, all the ingredients are there.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
They don't make it a big man just because you
got two all beat patters in the seventh seed bunk.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
They do not make that a bit.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
This saw is not special.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
It doesn't make it a big mach because it looks
the same. Right.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
So what I'm saying is when past certain came together,
he was not the best corner he developed his way
into that. Did he always have a high ceiling, Yes
he did. Does Amos have a high ceiling? Yes he does.
But let's not start there. Let's just try to make
him number one a month's his draft, Piers, let's start
there first, because you're talking about Travis Hunter, something we

(22:26):
haven't seen since Dion Sanders. Right now you're talking about
Will Johnson, who I thought shouldn't have failed in the draft.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm surprised that we're both high on him.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, So it's guys in this draft being I think
he has a chance to be good, maybe great. That
depends on how he focuses on his everyday practice compared
to his everyday play like Ken Junior.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Get it out of him? Yes he can. Is he
a Joe Whit guy? Yes? He is? Now what we
gonna he got a high floor. Let's see how fiut
of this ceiling go?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Do you have any voicemails.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yes, we do. Let me cue them up. We actually
got quite a few this this time around, so we'll
have to kind of rapid fire for the first. We're
gonna we're gonna hit We're gonna hit three.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Oh okay, all right, let's go.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Let's do this first voicemail. Oh sorry, a live stream.
Let me know.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
It's time to go out after one day in college.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
That's so embarrassing.

Speaker 8 (23:38):
Hey, what's going on, James and Fred? My name is
Dennis and I'm calling it all the way from Memphis, Tennessee,
of your stumping grounds. Fred.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Yes, uh, we have a crazy thought here.

Speaker 8 (23:52):
The kid we drifted in the sixth round, Cain Madrino
for some crazy reason. Wait, he plays. He reminds me
of Frank Gene from the Philadelphia Filthy Dumphia Eagles. Do
you feel the same way the way they play? They

(24:13):
seem similar with their playing styles. Well, that's all I
really have to say, and that's it. Hell to the commanders.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yes, I had many fun days in old Memphis, ten Oh,
I bet you, yes, old Memphis talking about barbecue, blues
and music.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
We're got new podcast, off the record, Off.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
The record, Fred and jinks. Listen, he is. His athletic
profile jumps off the page.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Doesn't he seem like more he's built more like a
strong safety.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yes, but he's rough enough to play live backer, and he's.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Like he's an oddity.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
He's one of these dudes where I think they got
him just so they could be a list star our
position for by this hybrid linebacker hybrid safety position, because
he can play shockingly.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
He fast enough to play the middle of the field
if he wanted to.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
He was the fastest of the combody.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, fast than some safeties, some corners like his athletic
pro me and me and Logan were watching the play
where they throw this quick screen to the to the
offensive left. He is rushing the passer from the opposite side.
He stops rushing the pastor by the time this guy
catches this screen, he has already be lying. By the

(25:31):
time this dude gets two yards, he's peeling his cap.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Damn, you don't see that he is.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
He's a Do you want to be a tad bit
more physical, Yes, with to get that out of him.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
But do I think he can add to this team
this year? I do.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
For some odd reason, I think they got a legit
plan for him. They drafted him with a legit purpose.
So yeah, I think he's gonna be a fan favorite.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
In no time.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Anytime you add speed, I'm always a fan.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Of that speed side screen. He's aggressive. He could do
like this, he could he could do everything all three levels.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
He can cover in the back end, he could tackle
like a linebacker.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
He can rush the passer. He can do pretty much
everything you need to do.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Love to hear that. All right, We ready for our
next one?

Speaker 8 (26:15):
Hey, Fred Jenkson, And and how y'all doing? Is freend
from Florida?

Speaker 6 (26:18):
Man?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Great now?

Speaker 8 (26:20):
I was just wanting your input on a couple of guys.
I was Johnny Newton and Kawhan Martin. Uh, because I'm
I'm in Florida now, but I grew up.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
In Illinois, and uh, it was wondering what kind of
impact those guys might have this year for us.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
Also a grilling idea of what we do. So for
Champagne or Bannon the bubbly there in Illinois.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
Uh is we e barbacue bacon fork Burger's, Uh with
some Country Bob sauce on it.

Speaker 8 (26:53):
Love y'all keep up the great show.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Have you guys heard of country Bob sauce.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
He just made me hung up.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
It unded very good.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
He almost in at the show like a country bomb sauce.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Listen, that's it around.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
That's probably made by a dude named Bob.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
That's all good, guess. But he was asking about Johnny
Newton Kuwan Martin. I think Johnny knew gonna take that
next step.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh don't you think?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Sober took him a while to get right because he
had two years two injured.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
So anytime a player coming, That's why I was easy
on Marshall Atlantimo. Anytime you injured, going to a new defense,
and it's just gonna be a you're trying to maintain,
you trying to survive. Now they're finna move past survival.
They're finna try to dominate. And that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And Qun.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I have been trying to figure out my match for
Qun because Quan is one of them dudes. He just
does everything good, like nothing is great, renaissance man. Everything good.
You need me to tell I do that good? You
need me to come out do that good? You want
me down in the box, I do that good like

(28:02):
and he gonna sacrifice every pound he got. Like the
one thing we know Kwan ain't afraid of is contact.
People don't understand last year, I think he was playing
with two dislocated shoulders, right, but he's still.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Running back interceptions against Detroit Lions. So I think we.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Got something with kuwyn More like we got some with Corn.
We got something with John Newton. Now it's time for
them to take it all the way to the next level.
Like he reminds me of a faster I can't say
he is physical. Okay, maybe it's the number twenty that's
throwing me out, but it's a little Brian Dawkins in
crime more.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Oh okay, it's a little Brian Dawks.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Brian Dawkins he ruined my whole career every time we
played the like I thought it was two Brian Dawkers
out there.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
The first thing the set.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Could play and he could really get down make plays
and just just somebody that he brings a tempo he
brings ain't good to the gether.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's a that's a like a football player.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
I remember the first time we went to the philadel
w Stadium. He crowled out of the tunnel like Wolverine.
I ain't never seen nothing like.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
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Speaker 2 (29:13):
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Speaker 2 (30:12):
Colorado University.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh, still getting it done. And now, look, we were
talking about these young guns. Let's talk about it even
more with Tom Lougan Bill.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Let's bring him in now.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Scout and college football analysts for sirius XM and ESPN.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
You know Tom louganvill We've had him on the show before.
You've seen him all over the place. Tom, First of all,
thanks for being with us.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
And second of all, I just wanted to get sort
of your general thought on the Commander's Draft as a
whole before we ask about individual players.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Well, listen, I think what's interesting is when you look
at this draft, in these five selections, three of the
five you would easily call college football journeyman. When you
look at their path and how they developed and got
from point A to point B, it's all about player development.
And I think there is a really interesting background for

(31:06):
these guys that probably made it a lot of fun
for the personnel department to really dive deep and figure out. Okay,
we've got three guys who are three time transfers that
have all of these unique backgrounds and their development from
let's just say an FCS program to playing in you know,

(31:27):
the defunct Pact twelve, a group of five programs, and
then all of a sudden starting with Alabama and old myths.
You don't see a ton of that. You're gonna start
seeing more of it. But for Washington, this was what
their draft is all about.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Tell them, do you feel that they want the people
that have been through adversity?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
They didn't want.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
People that had been you know, to see it with
spoon handed to them, because every time I look at
these guys, even when I look at Cunney, it went
always easy for Connely. Like the thing about it, I
think they want guys that've been through the process, guys
that haven't been through it like a lot, especially when
they talk about team leaders and team cap is like that.
Do you do you see the ingredients on what they
say a command that he is.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
Yeah, because I think there's a little bit of a
chip on the shoulder of each of these guys, you know,
particularly the ones that have been well traveled. They're they're
constantly trying to upgrade and get better and worked against
better people, play against better level of competition. I mean
Jacorey Krofsky Merritt starts off at Alabama, State of all places, yep,
and then somehow somehow ends up to Mexico and then

(32:28):
somehow ends up at Arizona. Well, that's three different levels
of competition, So you know he can acclimate, you know
he can adjust, and the jump in talent wasn't something
that was problematic Sometimes for guys it is. You say
the same thing about Jaylen Lane. He goes to Middle Tennessee,
a Middle Tennessee state, ends up at Virginia Tech, and
then Trey Amos Louisiana, Alabama and Ole miss. I think

(32:50):
there's a hunger there that would be attracted to me
if I'm a coach or I'm a scout. You know,
and you're and you're working through player evaluation, you're asking
a lot of why why did this guy go in
the portal? Why did this happen? Why did that happen?
And if you can start checking the boxes and feel
good about those answers, you're you're in good shape. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I see what you saying, Tom, How does that affect
your job?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Because you see a guy in high school, maybe he
goes to a smaller school. How does that translate to
a different school, to a different conference.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
How has it changed the way you evaluate guys?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Got to be harder.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Well, the problem with player evaluation at the high school
level is you're dealing with so many unknown variables, right,
I mean, and oftentimes it starts when they're fourteen years old,
all the way up to graduation and they move on
to college. Well, you know, in the National Football League
you essentially have unlimited resources to uncover every possible red
flag that could lead you to making a fifty million
dollar mistake, right yep. In player evaluation of the high

(33:48):
school player on behalf of college staffs, you know, you
can do the best that you can, but there are rules.
You don't get unlimited time with them. You're oftentimes now
with the transfer portal, image and likeness, you're having to
deal with handlers and it can be involved in the process.
And it's hard to be more difficult at the high

(34:08):
school level because unfortunately now it's all about money.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
They don't see the bigger picture. There's no identity with
the program they're signing with. The many instances, it's you're
not gonna have loyalty, there's not going to be passion
for that team, because you're looking at it sheerly as
a monetary stepping stone, because a lot of these kids
are going, well, if I'm not happy there, I'll just
leave yea, you know, because we've given we've given them
the out to not have to be accountable for anything,

(34:35):
not have to hold up there under the bargain. And
that's tough to build team culture around when you have
a bunch of young people that are throwing a lot
of money, probably aren't prepared for it, don't have the
support structure to handle it or navigate it, And then
what does that do? That leads to bad decisions, And
that's the thing that's become really dangerous. And player evaluation
of the younger player, whether it's high school or college.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, I feel you on there, Lupenberg.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
And when I look at this list that the AP combined,
every player has something that you rarely get in the
whole draft year. Like even when I got drafted, everybody
from my draft players wasn't ready to play in ad
to the team. When I look at this list of players,
all five of these guys could help us win games
this year, Like I think they can contribute to this

(35:18):
team are we seeing the same thing?

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting. So I look at what's
happened in the National Football League as the it's almost
like it's come full circle.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Right.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Ten years or so ago, everybody was saying, well, the
running back position is devalued and everybody's going to the
spread offense right, and now on defense, everybody said, well
we got to get smaller, leaner, faster because the game's
not played at a phone booth anymore. And now you
look at how things have come back, and the running
backs value has started to increase because people are now

(35:53):
offensively saying, okay, well you're lighting the pants. On defense,
yes you're fast, Yes you can run. Well, what happened
if we line up in thirteen personnel and run the
ball right at you, what are you going to do?
And so you're seeing, you know, Baltimore has done this,
Philadelphia's done this. I think a guy like to Corey
krossky Merritt, because he's a pounder, he's a downhill runner,

(36:15):
kind of fits that mentality of trying to reincorporate a
power run game. So I think he brings potential value,
especially in short yarded situations and the ability to just
stick your nose in there and pound the rock. Listen,
I think from a high profile perspective, when you take
an offensive tackle, which is a premium position, in the
first round, you're expecting that guy to contribute and play.

(36:38):
You're expecting him to come in and not only be
a factor, but you drafted him because you need an
upgrade over what you currently have. And it's interesting too
because Josh Connolly in this draft class for Washington, was
the only high profile recruit of the entire group. The
vast majority of these guys outside of Cain Madrona, who

(36:58):
by the way, was a receiver he signed with UCL
he wasn't a linebacker. So outside at hand, all of
these guys were lightly to moderately recruited. Josh Connery was
the only one that essentially went from you know, five
star prospect coming out to actually developing into a first
round draft dress. And when we first saw him he

(37:20):
was six foot four, two hundred and sixty pounds, like
you had to put rocks in his pockets and pour
him full of water if you wanted to get anywhere
near three hundred pounds. And so the development and the
jump that he's made over the course of time has
almost entirely been enhancing the physical God given talents he
already had.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Some One thing I keep hearing about Connelly, which I
really like, is how.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
He really wants to absorb the game, and not just
at his position, but at all the positions on offense.
So that's a big part of any evil, which is
the mental aspect.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
How much emphasis do you put on that one evaluating
player huge?

Speaker 6 (37:54):
I think aptitude, the ability to process. When it's a
quarterback position. You know, we talk about quarterbacks all the
time and this arm strength and that height and that
weight and this speed, and you know, can he change
arm angles and this and that quarterback plays about two things.
It's about decision making and accuracy. And so you have
to evaluate I think decision making and the ability to

(38:14):
process in every position across the board. Because things are
happening to boom boom, boom boom thousand miles an hour,
and even guys who are drafted in the first round
or the sixth round, doesn't matter what it is, they're
going to see an uptick in not only speed of
the game, strength of the game. I mean, you're talking
about the top zero point four percent of the people
on this planet that actually play in the National Football League.

(38:35):
I mean, that's the number is just minuscule. And so
to me, I think the knowledge of the game, the
theory of the game. If you're a Josh Connery and
you want to understand, you know why the center's doing
this and why the tight end's got to do that,
then you're going to become a better football player just
as a result of that. And so I think every
time scouts and guys are going in and they're talking

(38:58):
to a coach, they're talking to a player personnel guy,
they're talking to the equipment manager or the athletic trainer.
Does this guy make good decisions? Does he think things through?
How does he handle himself? Is he the first guy
in the building, is the last guy to stay? All
of those sorts of things I think help uncover and
identify red blacks. And then you as an organization, as

(39:18):
with anything else, you need to decide do we want
to run that risk? Is that a risk we're willing
to take. Is this something we think we can fix
if something pops up, and if not, we go on
and we go on to the next guy in the morning.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
But I thought it was a brilliant move by Peters
when he watched what the Eagles got going over there
with Jalen Carter. When he's seeing Dunham and there as
a rouque, go get drafted by the Dallas Cowboys. When
you see a dual Carter, you mixing here with Dix
the Lawrence, and you mixing like the Tripado. They got
Brian Burns for them to take Conley right there. When
I said back and look at this office of line.

(39:51):
Now I see a pro bowler, all pro and Lerrman Tonks,
so I see Coleman moving to the guard. He played
well at Tacker. He gonna feel more protected it going.
I got be honest, a pro bowl Synem and Sam
cost me when Hilty is a pro bowler. So do
you think with him combining with his line, they're gonna
get the best out of him?

Speaker 6 (40:12):
I think that they. He will have to make a
decision when he starts looking to his right and to
his left for all of the reasons that you just labeled.
He's gonna have no choice. He's either gonna sink or swim.
He better rise to the occasion and be a dude,
or he'll get out matched for the exact reasons that
you just laid out right there, Because I think competition

(40:34):
does breathe the best in in in teammates. And if
you see the writing on the wall real quickly, you're
gonna make one of one or two decisions. You're either
gonna rise all right, or you're gonna fall back into
the shadows. You look like Homer Simpson falling back into
the into the the shrubbery there the wall and disappear.
And I think that's why you spend so much time

(40:56):
in player evaluation, studying petitive temperament, mental toughness, getting answers
to those questions. What does a guy do if he
gets beat? What does a guy do if he's having
a bad day? How does he respond? How does he react?
All of those things, Especially the higher the draft choice,
the more glaring it becomes.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Tom who is the guy regardless of team that maybe
isn't a marquee college football name. It could be an
Ashton gent dear Travis Hunter, someone outside of that that
you think is gonna be a great pro.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
You know what, To be honest with you, it's you
just mentioned Donovan Ezraku yeah, and I he's one of
those guys that's not gonna check every measurable standard box.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Right.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
He's a little short, kind of has a little short arms,
doesn't have the length that you maybe like. All that
dude does is make plays. A just makes plays. He
is a football playing dude. And sometimes you have to
sit in the room with the rest of your group
and say, guys, I know we want six or five
minimum right, I know we want thirty four inch h

(42:04):
minimum at this spot. But this guy is too good
of a player to pass up. And I don't care
that he can't. He doesn't have any of that stuff.
I think he's got they a great young man. I
think he's got the opportunity to be an absolute star.
Couldn't believe he did. He dropped out of the out
of the first round. That one really surprised me, to
be honest with you. So I think he's one that

(42:26):
just pops out to me, is going to be a
ten year plus guy.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Well, I feel like Cowboys knocked the draft out of
out of the park because Chavone Revel is one of
my favorite dbs. In his draft, I feel like he
was a faster version of Richard Sherman. So when I
looked at the Cowboys draft through and through, I feel
like they actually, I don't want to get him, no problem,
but I gotta give him problems.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
I'm gonna say, Man, you're gonna have to buckle.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Up to say reveal.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
I just thought once I looked at the complete draft,
I was like, Oh, that's a draft right there. They
got some dudes and they add him to a couple
of more dudes that they already get.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
Yeah. No, I no, I agree with you, And I
think you know it's the draft is always so fascinating
to me because you do all of this work, right,
You do all of this planning and the investigatory phase,
and you're uncovering everything you possibly can, and statistically, the
history of the draft will show you even with all
of that hard work, you're probably gonna miss on fifty

(43:24):
percent of everybody that's taken in the first round. I mean,
think of think about that. And that's like one guy.
Like we talk in recruiting, everybody says, oh, they're signing
twenty five guys at the high school level and they're
all seventeen years old, and there's gonna be they're hoping
to hit on sixty percent, meaning they know they're going
to miss on ten guys. Question is which ten are they?

(43:45):
But when you look at it from this perspective, you're
not talking about twenty five guys. You're talking about missing
fifty percent of the time on one guy. Like That's that's
fascinating to me, and it's why it's so hard, right,
And to be honest with you, this is in everything
in life, luck involved, right, and and you're gonna you're
you're gonna make some of your own luck by the
decisions that you make on guys. And I've I've long

(44:08):
felt in personnel that if you see something that you
think is an incorrectable problem, you better stay away from it.
Don't let ego get involved, because if you think you
can fix it and all this and that, and then
you end up missing, and you did it knowingly, taking
somebody that you had uncovered a previous issue on. And

(44:30):
I think guys get so enamored or they get there,
you know, we can get him in our in our
culture and he's going to be fine and all those
sorts of things, and the older they get, you ain't
changing the stripes on the tiger Luken Barry.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
I cannot let you out of here by talking to it,
sprinkling in a little superhero talking here, because you know.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
I love all right what you see.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I love my Marvel and I just watched The Thunderboats
aka The DGEs, and I thought it was great. They
attacked mental health. They he really hit on some stuff.
Marvel is bad. That's how I feel. And I'm a
big James Gunn guy. I think he's in the Rebirth DC,
the Superman movie looks out the while.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Did you go see Thunderbolts?

Speaker 6 (45:11):
Okay? I saw Thunderbolts on Sunday. I loved it. I
thought it had like a Guardians of the Galaxy feel. Yeah,
nough enough enough humor, enough action, great special effect, but
then it had heart too, like he cared about the characters.
And to be honest with you, guys, I mean they've
missed Disney and Marvel over the last like three to

(45:33):
four outings have completely missed the mark, like they've got
people disinterested. This movie is gonna get people back and interested.
And I think what's really cool is it's kicking off
the phase where you can tell they're gonna combine these
guys with the Fantastic four. Then you're gonna have the
vast majority of the Avengers returning the original Avengers and

(45:55):
Robert Downey Dooingy Junior playing Doctor Doom. Like, how it
doesn't get any better than that? Now, I got one
beef with the new Superman deal.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
All right, what you got?

Speaker 6 (46:06):
How bad is that suit? I don't think the suit
would come on?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Man, No, this is what James's gone for.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
After that dark DC album We've had the last ten
years the DC universe, they toned it down.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
It was very dark, very bleak.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
I think he wanted to bring that vibrant Superman back
and Crypto coming back.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
I love the colors. I love the colors, but give
me something form fitting. Man. It looks like it looks
like what's his name in Guardian's a Galaxy of star Lord.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
It just looks like his.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
Suit with a cape and an S on it, and
it's like all loose and baggy. But here's my theory.
I have a theory, and if I end up being
right on this, you guy's gonna have to have me
back on I think because there's so little known about
the movie, I'm not so sure that that suit isn't
on purpose, and it's because he's kind of young and
just becoming figuring it out. And I bet I think

(47:00):
by the end of the movie he's gonna get a
new suit. That's my theory. He's gonna get a suit
that'll be tight in form fitting me. Why the hell
go out and do all that work to look great
to be in the Superman suit and then they put
you in a baggy smock. What are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, which just shout super I got this at Men's Warehouse.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
It was a great deal.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
I thought it went to TJ max Man it let
itsels up a little lowersized Superman suit, But no, I
love the colors. I think he's great. He should be
really really good in this. And James Gunn makes great movies, right,
I mean, when you really think about it. I trust
him too. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
He's a scout and recruited analyst for ESPN and Serious Xcent.
It is Tom Logan, Bill, Tom, great stuff, and thank
you so much for the time were coming to.

Speaker 7 (47:47):
Anna Kayla akathe bomb dot com. Hey guys, it's traveling Jay,
just checking in. And the last episode you had talked
about possibly he wanted to hear more about some.

Speaker 8 (48:00):
Of the players.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
I've left the message I need to know a little
bit more about this Connor the kid, So if you
could get somebody from Oregon or whatever, let's find out
a little bit more about him, that would be awesome.
Also real stoked about the RFK site. I'm hoping that
they can somehow incorporate the old stadium into the new stadium.

(48:21):
I don't know how they would do that, maybe possibly
using some of the debris or whatever. They'd have to
turn a suck her down. But about that, and also
I don't know. I don't know if I had told
you or not. It's a special place for me because
the last season in ninety six that they did on
an RFK, actually my wife and I were my ex

(48:44):
wife now we're married. On the fifty R line at
RFK oh Te six. It was on a Saturday shoot.
Talked to John kink Cook I think it was a grandson.
I believe that was his name, and I got us.
She got us there, so he wouldn't let us do
it during the game because he was afraid that other

(49:04):
people would want to do it and they would start
an avalanche. But there was the Saturday before the game.
I can't even remember if they played at home that weekend.
But anyway, Uh, just on touch base with you guys.
Still doing a great job as always, and we're still
a kicking on this side of town. Also, one more time,
Kansas City. I know Washington comes here, so I'm looking

(49:28):
forward to going to that game. Never been to a
game down there, and you know I haven't been there
that long, so but we'll be touching basically all that too.
All right, thanks guys, You know I love you, and
nobody loves you like I do.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Take care of I see why invested in the RFK.
If you got married a stadium, you connected to this stadium, right, and.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Then if you got a divorce, you hope it implodes.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Yes, but but there's always a port of traveling Jay
and his wife's.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
He's absolutely like even I got a chance to make
traveling Jay's son.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Up for a game, and I can only they failed.
The little eerie that he was watching the Washington game,
but he wasn't watching it in the stadium he got
married in, Yeah, the one that he got connected to.
So now I see why he want that little brick
of conerstone.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
They should just keep a little something there like anything
like just one.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
No, I say more bricks than just one.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
You know what they could do too.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
They can also like a few whatever, just a part
of it, and then have some sort of shrine or
something honoring the old stadium where they.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Have an RFK wall.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
We can have a wall of bricks from the original RFK.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Maybe two seats and yeah, maybe two.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Seats in front of the something something, just to pay
homage to that. Because if people, if they was letting
people do this type stuff. Now see why they have
the love affair with RFK that they do, because they
not just mentally attached to it, They emotionally attached to
their place. So now and now I'm starting to understand.

(51:00):
Now I understand it's hollow ground because that's what we beat.
Dalli said so many time to go to the super
Bowl and all these memories there, but those are real memory,
those are lifetime memories right there?

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Would you get married in a football statiud?

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Since since you finish, get married and I'm throwing your
bachelor party.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
So much to unpack.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
Istherine is Catherine a Commander's fan.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
She is now, I mean Catherine never really had She
went to College of Charleston and it's from South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
But she doesn't really have used to be watching, so
now all she has his commander stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Yeah, yeah, Catherine is down with us. We know that
for a fact. The question jinks you didn't answer.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Would Catherine say yes to a football field marriage?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
No, absolutely not. I think we're getting married in Virginia.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I think I've been saying even at the University of Charleston.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I don't know about that. I think fotball field is
probably not the equation.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Well, I think men don't ax enough.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
I think when it comes to marriage, the first thing
we do is say, here, you handle it. And mostly
the dudes that I know have xd for these different requests.
They always have these themed marriages and they always last.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
So maybe we are.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Lacking as men, not being proactive and saying, how about
we do it somewhere different. How about we do it
off the beating path. How about we don't do it
at a church. How about we do it our way?
Because traveling Jay did it dayweight and that's why they
still together.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Anna, you'll get married one day.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
What if your fiance says, honey, you work for the commanders.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Great, I love the commanders I work for the commanders.
But you don't want to get married where you work.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
No, you don't work at RK, you work at the
practice facility.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You know.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
I always saw myself getting married in Colorado. That's that
would be more. But I would not be getting married
out fulsome field. I wouldn't be getting married. I also understand.
But if if, if the team is somehow instrumental in
your love story, like it was for Traveling Jay and
his now ex wife, but it was an instrumental part

(53:18):
of their love story. And I think that's a I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Give you a scenario. Ana, Yes, your fiance is a
naval guy.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
He's a naval guy, lieutenant captain whatever, all right, he
wants to get married on air craft carry all right.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I'm just I thought you were going to say Annapolis,
and you're like craft.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
We've got a couple of shift there.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
I mean, I'm just saying, I just want to I
want to marry two things.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Reception or the or the rehearsal.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
And then when you say I do f.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
Eighteen, it's fifty to fifty. It's got to be fifty
to fifty. Both parties need to be in agreement. Both
parties are in agreement that you're getting married at RFK Stadium.
Go for it. That's amazing you do you. But I
don't know if I'll be in agreement for that.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Well I can say is a guy that got married traditionally,
I'm not doing it traditionally No more. I'm going to
do it like traveling Jay in the middle of a
field somewhere.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Are it would be just an actual field for you, Yes,
just a.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Feel of dreams.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Like all I'm saying is the marriages that I have
watched do it a little different.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
They stand to test of time. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Well, you got to do You got to do what's
right for your relationship.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah, that's what you got adapt whatever that is.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
And so for Jenks, that's not getting married out of
football field. Yes, it's going with what Catherine wants.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah, to get married in the box on the football filx.
And you've been you've been speaking. But I just think
you got to come up with different ways. No, when
you say the invitation creativity, Like the first thing I
do when somebody send me an invitation to win, I
want to know the location, Okay, I want to know
the thing. These are two things I need to know

(55:11):
when I see it's conventional, I might make it, Man,
I might not.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
I love it. I love it. Are you ready for
our next next caller? Thanking and traveling jail?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Also hearing from me you might get married at a
seventy eleven? Who knows?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
And that's a big.

Speaker 9 (55:28):
Net himself, Michael Jagon And and how you doing, lady?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Look y'all didn't do your homework?

Speaker 8 (55:36):
Are you supposed to go do the homework on the.

Speaker 7 (55:38):
Black helm, white jersey with a black pan?

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Say you didn't like it?

Speaker 7 (55:41):
Okay, it's cool.

Speaker 6 (55:42):
We're gonna move past it.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
You ain't gotta like it at the time, but you
like that?

Speaker 7 (55:47):
All gold twenty ft Karen talking about coming in thinking
and whatnot.

Speaker 8 (55:51):
I'm not a fan at all.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Good I just need to hear nor that.

Speaker 8 (55:55):
On one time to do a d dive on Jacobe
Jones the drafted three and we got it. I didn't know, man, Man,
you used to play for Alabama. Man, that boy looked nice.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
He looked nice.

Speaker 9 (56:07):
I know he was an undrave the creator when I've
seen some of the players that little homework on him.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
Man, he looked pretty good.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
He looked pretty good.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
Man. If y'all do a little homework on him.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Let hus know what you think.

Speaker 8 (56:18):
Appreciate y'all have a great one, great show, phenomenal.

Speaker 7 (56:22):
It's about time y'all got together and did something.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Man.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
Two of the most hilarious guys in the business doing
it right now. Man, we appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
Know, y'all be cool.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
The black and white uniform, like, I think he just
was going against the grave, Jason. I think he just
was saying, you know what, I'm gonna put the the
most unobvious stuff together and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
It's I guess we got to do homework.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Don't talk about when he said it. I know all
the uniforms in my head and I was like, what
is he trying to match? So I was like, oh,
he tried to take these black jerseys out of black pants.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Yeah, mission with the white top. By the way, Like, no,
that ain't gonna work.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Like there's no symmetry there, there's no And I can't
believe he's shot down Bruno Mars fourteen carry go like
do you know how they would look what they they
just say? We had the gold healing right, just to
go heal it literally, like on gold jerseys, on gold pants.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Gold. What sucks.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
He's sticking so hard to white and black and you
were sticking so like both you guys.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Once again, Well, because I'm a I'm thinking color rush
in my head.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
That's the second thing you started Twitter, the color rush.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
You should be getting paid for all.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
These yeah, get paid for none of them, none of them.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
All right, Well, we have one more voicemail and we'll
hit the last topic and that'll be the show. Thank
you everybody for leaving your voicemails this past week. You
guys have so many awesome voicemails, and just keep leaving voicemails,
sending us emails. It's so much fun. And you guys
are involved, all right. And this one was from our
friend Omar.

Speaker 7 (57:58):
Hello, smooth Jenks and.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
And happy Sunday.

Speaker 9 (58:00):
Hope you guys are fighting off these Sunday scary I
wanted a call. I just read the report from Niki Jaballa.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
We're hosting a draft in two years, guys.

Speaker 9 (58:09):
I think it's in Pittsburgh next year. The draft will
be in Washington, DC in twenty twenty seven. I'm curious
to know your guys and thoughts about this. Have you
guys ever attended the draft as a pan what's like?
Is it just a bunch of standing around and anyways?
I wonder if the prospect professor Logan Paulson has any
input on this as well. I'm curious to hear your guys'

(58:32):
thoughts and any you know, way too early predictions for
what the twenty twenty seven draft will look like. I mean,
do you think Arch Manning has come out that year?

Speaker 7 (58:41):
Curious?

Speaker 9 (58:42):
I think Ryan Williams and Jeremiah Smith might be in
that draft too.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Yeah, he's right, Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams the freshman femom.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Oh Ryan Williams a player man, Jeremi Smith is a monster.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
I think Julio Jones mixed with Randy Moss or amazing
Archman and you know a lot about that, don't you.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Jin hook them down?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Get that's our yet.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I think Arch gonna be great, But I also think
Arch is gonna stay forty years that Texas I.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Think he says more than one. If Texas wins the
national title this year, which is look Texan. Ohiose they
are both co favorites for the national title and then
I think he goes. But I think Arch is different,
and we'll probably say a.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Couple of years.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
I think Archer stay so that that twenty seven draft
will be the draft of drafts, all right. So I
think it's some freshman fee numbs in there that's playing
right now, that's gonna be sophomores that'll be great. And
the draft experience, yes, I have had it. I got
friends that did it. It's the loudest, it's very stadium like,
it's this constant.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
From what I hear. If you're sitting in the crowd.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Yeah, you can hear nothing, right, But on the outside
we can hear everything, right, So it's this constant crowd noise.
And then it's these explosions all right. But it's like
every fan base is waiting on there. They're shot yeah
to do it. So it's like everybody's taking turns. And

(01:00:06):
from what I hear, sometime you can hear the people
making the calls. Sometime you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Cause it's dead loud.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
So the expirits is different, and it's it's longer than
a football game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
It's longer than anything you've been to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
It goes on for days.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
When I say longer, Like they just say the first
day that this five six hours.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
The second day start earlier than that, and the third
day is a whole entire day. Like, so it's one
of them things where it's not a sporting event, but
it's kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Also, DC is such a tourist city anyway, obviously, so
we're built for it. And plus people will come and say,
let's just make a trip like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Nothing against Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
A lot of people wouldn't necessarily plan a trip to
Green Bay outside of the draft, but you will for DC.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
That's without saying it's just like going to a Raiders game.
People see Raiders on their shoulders, and this is more
than this is a trip.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
DC gonna be the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
People will be going to the museums while they down
there on the national Law, they will be going out
to the water front.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
They will be doing all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
So it won't be just draft centric like we have
that to offer the one in Green Bay this year,
no disrespect, it was only draft. Right, unless you're going
to a Perkins in Wisconsin, it ain't too much you're
doing out there. But people will get to take on
the nation's capital in a different way, right, and they're
going to see that the d m V is unique

(01:01:34):
like no other cities in the world. All right, when
they come, when they see all their water, the will
probably be just the best because the football gods are
shining on us right now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
So it's gonna be. This is what I say. This
will be more than a draft. It'll be an adventure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
There will be one person comes here and says, where's
the closest Perkins.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
It is no Perkins.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
We got no Perkins for you, right, But we got
some top notch restaurant, we got top notch people.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
It's a very clean city.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
It's more water than you think you ever see, and
we got some uniquely nobody is hey, as we are,
two states in the nation Capitol all together, we are
to d m V.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Nobody can compete with it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Yes, and I will be at the Kendred Lamar concert.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
What is that he's with?

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
It's gonna be June. I think is it June?

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be Jing' don't mark me
on it, but it will be it at Northwest Stadium.
Fritchmo will be there and I'm gonna I'm that's not
all Drake fans to come on now too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
You know, before we go?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yeah, Abdul Carter, yeah, draft about the Giants out of
Penn State. Yeah, first he asked for LT's number, which
I thought my head was going to explode.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
And LT was like lost hair is the greatest defensive
player of all time and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
He ain't gonna hold his mouth right wrong, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
He was like, thanks, but no thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
It was gonna make your own Marke, go make your
own way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
And then Abduall Carter because you are eleven to Penn State.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
That's the thing of Penn State, asked Phil Simms, former
Giants quarterback if.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
You could wear eleven? And I heard field, his family
was like no, No.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Was like because he go he go to thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
And that's why my Michael Irvin. I love Michael Irving
for this reason. He enjoyed seeing eighty eight on the
field on son. He enjoyed seeing people never can forget
about uh, Michael Irvan because Cedee Lamb is winning eighty eight,
Daviz Bryant.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Will like eighty eight is still alive.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
I respect him so much for this, But he got
the scariest thing because I had to really think about this.
Let's say you a Hall of Fame player, Michael Jenkins. Okay,
your number is number eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
A player calls and asks you this, and you call
me and say, smooth, should I let him wear it?
And I'm just the first thing I'm gonna say to you.
You a Hall of Fame player, right, but you're a
Hall of Fame player in your time? What happens if
this dude outballs you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Now? Is that jersey his? Are you forgotten?

Speaker 9 (01:04:28):
Is it his?

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Does that jersey now belong to? Sonny Jergis in the third?
All right, it's no longer people will not identify you
with that, all right. It's similar to this, Darren Greenware
is twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Eight, So you're saying keep the number.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
I'm saying you gotta protect your legacy. You did too
much to get to that level to just say here,
all right, I just because.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
But also to someone who hasn't played a down or
pro football, it's like, listen, Abdul Carter may be a
great pro chance, he might not do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
You might not get said about anyone.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
No, that's any player draft like all thirty two first
round could crash, all right, But they go to big
question that I think you have to ask yourself, like
twenty three is Michael Jordan's number? A right Lebron woard
But we still think about Mike, right, but what if
he would have rolled there in Chicago? Oh hell no,

(01:05:24):
I'm just saying if he Lebron makes me visibly, are
not saying if Lebron would have wrote twenty three in
Chicago right now, we will be having the biggest debate
of our time like we already had, right, who's the goat?

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Well, they were like, no, the twenty three belong to Lebron.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
This generation gonna say that now me dirty old man like, uh, oh, Michael,
nobody could do with Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Dirty of men like us, both of us, both of us.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
But do you see what I'm saying. Yes, Like it's
a it's a clash of do you want to be
remembered always? Uh? Would you rather see somebody else take
pick up where the old man left off?

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
And also I feel like if you earn that honor,
field to keep that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
And here's the thing, especially especially with someone like lt
Like even when I think of five to six, I
don't just think five six football, or like I always
think of Lawrence Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Number fifty six is Lawrence Taylor? Like that's it, that's
it right for generations that they didn't even see him play.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That's like Jackie Robinson is forty two.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
You know, you know forty two years you understand simply
when I say twelve, Who you thinking about Brady?

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
What a Shader's wearing twelve?

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
What if arch Man had come out and let's say
something happened to the Patriots quarterback and he wants to
wear twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Oh no, I'm the biggest start, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
See that's say the first night he think about it,
go to sleep and have a nightmare that my Patriots
Jersey got.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Manning on the back of instead of brain.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
That'd be sacrilege.

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
It just but but you got to put that in
the category for everybody. Yeah, like, just just the way
it is, just how them guys gonna look at it.
That's how Hall of Famer gonna look at it. They're
going to want to be stubborn in that way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
And I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
That is it for the Get Loud Podcast Present in
my seat, Geek. Got a great crew here, Taylor's in
the back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Annas the Lonely Show with you Dad, it could have been.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
We'll check it out next week with us see su.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
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