October 22, 2025 • 49 mins
The crew talks the lopsided loss to the Dallas Cowboys and how the Commanders can bounce back. Next, it's Monday Night Football and Patrick Mahomes is hosting the Burgundy and Gold. The guys discuss what makes Mahomes great but not unbeatable. They discuss the ways in which Washington can shine in primetime and come out of Kansas City with the victory. Get Your Commanders Tickets Here: https://bit.ly/3SpwKU3 Hosts: Logan Paulsen, Santana Moss, Fred Smoot Producer: Jason Johnson The views and opinions expressed by our analysts and/or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we have a
(00:02):
Cowboys recap. We keep it nice and move on, because
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Welcome to The.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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Speaker 1 (00:58):
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We've got a lot to get to today's show. Yeah,
a lot of feelings to navigate a lot of big
emotions to deal with, and so we're gonna start with
are the Cowboys recap? And I know, like you, like
you guys out there, we weren't super stoked on it, No,
(01:21):
we're not. But I will say there were some positive
things that I felt like we could look to to
say that this thing could get better sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Those things.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So the first thing that sticks out to me is saying, hey,
you know, complimentary football, like we got to do it.
We're gonna have to do it moving forward. People say, well,
we're very complimentary, and I would say there were flashes. Yeah,
we had that Tressway punt that was down inside the one.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Percy Butler.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We've been missing it, like you don't understand when you're
missing the guy on special teams like that, Percy Butler,
we've been missing it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So that was excellent.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We get the safety and then we have a seven play,
sixty five yard touchdown drive that ends with a Jane
Daniels touchdown to Zach Er.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So I look at that, what.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Was that probably like an eight minute period of the game, Yeah,
and I thought, this is how you win this football game.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Best teams, defense, offense, All right, all LinkedIn together and
because the calls and effect of it, because the special
team stopped them at the one, the run paying got
the safety. Because the run payin got the safety, we
return and now the offense gets back on the field
and we drive sixty five yards.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's the difference.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And that was the first time I had saw the
new kickoff from.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
From a safety perspective because they had.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
To kickoff father didn't regular kickoffs regular kickof causing us
to have a short kickoff return and now we go
in and score.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's a great point.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And so you know, I think great play by Percy
Grey pump player by trust like they're.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Both capable of doing that all the time.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, because I think even Percy has a great tackle
later in the same game, which I talked about with
Coach on the Game Plan show, which is gonna be
fun to talk about him. But then Drawn Payne, he's
one of our better players. And I actually I really
like the call by Joe Wood Junior. He's bringing a
little bit of h I want to say, will pressure there,
they stunt the line. Doran plays, Duran Payne is playing
into the tight end. That's a matchup He's gonna win.
Every single time ends it being a tackle for loss
(03:13):
for safety, we get possession back, and then I think offensively,
you saw some of the rhythm that we've come to expect,
some of the efficiency we've come to expect from this offense.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I mean, I think, to me, man, just you know,
I want to kind of talk about both of them. Great,
great job by Percy first and foremost him and Tres,
you know, making that play normal. You see guys get
down there and the first thing they do is I
don't want to go in the end zone. I'm gonna
push it back, and then the ball goes into somebody
who can't catch, and the ball end up in the
end zone for a touchback. So I was happy that
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he said, you know what, I'm gonna take this under
my own hand, my own control on the tight rope
this thing. Make sure I put these guys there paying
go out there. Man, paym be doing that all year,
beating his guy.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, here's what we did. I mean, And I know
it's shrouded by the loss.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Like you had a great game, man, phenomenal game, man.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
So I love the fact that you can see all
the phases come together and play the kind of football
we want. You spoke about a complimentary football, special teams
being special defense, go out there and say hey, thanks,
thanks for this opportunity. Then the offense come and counter
that and say, you know what, thank you to thank
both of you guys. Let me go out here and
do our think. And the one word that you said
that I want to speak on is us being fluid.
(04:21):
You didn't say the word, but what you said meant that,
you know, us having a rhythm, fluid fluidity.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's why we haven't been so successful offensively to me
this year because I don't see that enough. The rhythm,
the rhythm is everything. Having that fluidity. Having that rhythm
makes you have the offense that we've seen before and
makes you have the production that we saw in that
particular drive.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So I think that's a really good segue into that's
what that to me, that sequence is what this team
needs to do to win football games.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You're gonna have to you gotta stack.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You gotta be supported. Right, everyone's banged up. The receivers
are banged up, the defensive lines banged up.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
We're banked up.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
In safety, like everywhere has scars, a big any of
the script.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, we need to see the wheelchair man on someone outside.
Man around here, Man, we hurting up. We need that
mush boom from Super Mario.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Hurt Well, you got fans asking me to suit up, bro,
and like jokingly, but not jokingly, come on, what forty
six year old wide receiver of my not you know
you got nothing in me?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
But yeah, man, we're hurting bro.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
But so basically, the analogy of to make is like
at the beginning of the season, you have a big target, right,
and with every injury, that target gets.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
A little bit smaller.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, and eventually it's kind of the size of a
quarter windows away, and so it becomes harder to hit.
But in order to hit it, you got to play
complimentary football, which is why we started with that. And
I think what Tanna was saying there about the fluidity
of the offense is a great place to start because
that's what it's got to be, and that's what it
looks like when it goes right. But when it doesn't
go right, let's talk about why it doesn't go right,
(05:54):
what we're seeing, and I guess we can start.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
We gonna start with defense. We want to start with
whatever you want with.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
The dragon in the world, right, the dragon? This is
a dragon a game. I want to know why he's
a dragon? Come on, tell me?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
As always story so.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Big because it's it's fantastical, all right. It's one of
those things that it doesn't exist at all.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It doesn't exist. The defense doesn't exist.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Right now, we're just not playing good like you know, member,
I get.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
What you're saying, because there are bright spots. Right, there's
two sacks of this game. There's a safety. There's a
couple of people used.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
But I think you, I think you Q. You got
bright spots, right, you Q under your own pit.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right, that's a bright people says that that's a bright spot.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't like to talk about bright spots. Consistency.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Old defense is about tackling, and we ain't tackling man,
and that that bothers me.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
At the end of the day, I always tell a.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Defense like this, if one person misses the tackle, that's
the other ten per people fault.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Because where are you?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Where are you? But tell me this? Are we hurt?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
And I'm gonna ask you this because you the you,
the guy to play defense. You the guy that watching
your your eye, your eye for certain things. Defensively might
be different from mine. From what I'm seeing, I don't
necessarily feel the tackling part is bigger than it's the elephant.
I don't think that's the that's the biggest feel like,
(07:20):
I don't think that's the biggest problem. I think the
biggest problem to us is the explosives, because I feel
like it's been games where we tackle better, but we
still haven't stopped the those believed.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Take care of.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But you know, it's funny, as you say explosives, I say,
I say run fits.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So it's kind of all.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
All of them, So all of them taking his place,
so taking his toll on us. But I feel like
at certain games one takeover.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Then you I think you feel the explosives more, but like.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Because they stick out, because you know, if you force
a team to play the kind of football that we've
seen these guys force the Chargers play, be methodical, and
then now I bats against the wall, make a play.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I feel like we've we have better outings or better
endings to the games when our defense play that kind
of football.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But when you're getting beat and you ain't even get started.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I mean, and like we just lined up in the
ball already.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Like it's tough to overcome.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Like a good example I think of what you're what
I think what we're both talking about is like, so,
for example, there's that first p I to Pickens, which
is a little bit of bderlne, but they called it whatever. Yeah,
so it was that that drive started second and ten.
They ran the ball, they got to second, they got
to third and h third and one. It's a play
action shot and everyone gets really sticky in third one.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, they ever take the shot down the field.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And so to me, it's like if you keep them
in second and ten, yeah, you don't give up a
big run there. Now the third and seven you can
kind of call the defense you want to call. And
so that's where So to me, let's just I think,
I think the thing we're all talking about here is
a just a general tackling.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
With the run fits what they're supposed to plays, a.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
General lack of consistency, not giving yourself a chance.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Always playing behind the chains as a defense never gives
you a chance to fire off, like you're always playing
on your heels. If I'm always playing on my heels.
That means none of my players I have like when
one person has a good game on this defense, all.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Of them have a good game.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
When one have a bad game, all of them having
a bad game. The play you sent me a right
with Wagner wasn't making the run fit all right? A
lot of people would think that Samah Steel, but Sarah Steel,
that ain't his response. I mean responsibility to get over
that hump. But could he been tight on his run fit? Yes,
So all of them are stepped off from where they
need to be. Even when like we give up a play,
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we make a play, we give up a play, we
make a player. At one point you're gonna have to
make a play, make a play, make a player, stack
some plays on top of each other, and that's what
they gives you chance to really be the team. But
if you think you're gonna go out there with one
of the best offenses. And I told you, by Skinny
that when Dak started to run the ball, I'm telling
you he adds a different l to that off.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
He runs the ball at all this He just ran
up in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah he.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Was, Yeah, he got he got in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And you're talking about pickings CD Lamb pickings.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
In person, Like seeing him in person was incredible.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Like ceedee Lamb always have those kind of plays because
he's in the middle of the field and it seemed
like it just opens up because somebody missed, you know
what I mean, somebody didn't cover him up.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, But that's that's a great point to the two ten.
I started to cut you off, like that's Tampa too.
Someone should be carrying him, what I'm saying, in a
linebacker or whoever.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That was that good.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I think there was a different carry player in that look.
Someone should be carry him because it's an adverted to
and that's where it's like versus an offense like Dallas.
They're gonna get some place, like don't get some place
like the throw Tomos like crazy, the throat to uh,
the throw to Pickens right before half.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That was one of the best deep fifty fifty throws man.
That ball was perfect placement.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
But that's why he'm mad at Latim wre with that one.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, the only thing he didn't do is finish.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Not the finish part.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
It's to even give them that that opportunity because I
felt like to me and I'm like, I said, I'm
an offensive guy, and I you know me, I tell you,
I got a guy who who know the position just
like you didn't play at the claibory or the level
you played on, but been my guy since since I
know about that. I asked him, like, bro, and then
I asked London the double down noneing like, yeah, we don't.
We shouldn't be even giving up that kind of we
(11:28):
shouldn't be playing that. Clothes all see everything in front,
in front of everything should be in front of me.
So when I saw that and I'm like why I
had to go back and watch it, I'm like why
everybody It's like they playing off and like in some
kind of a zone.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So this particular person, let me just come it on
this real quick, just to give some context. Okay, And
again I would defer to London bo smart dude. I've
talked him a bunch. He knows ball backs in quarters coverage,
which is what it looks like they're in. Yeah, backside
of a four by one. It's going to turn into
mand coverage.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, it is cool, which is cool.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm not sure to like they kind of formationed it
up to get this look.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
The one on one on it.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
But what I'm asking is if I'm off, I'm playing
to me, I'm playing top down.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So what I would say too is like the most
common route run backs out of four by one in
the league right now is a slant.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh you think?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And so if you're off in quarters with the best
safety to your side looking away, and you got to
rally and tackle in space, like I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So give me a slant, then I take it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
So that's try and say like this is this and
this is like just to give context.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Especially with second and seventeen, give me the slant.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But I think, but I think the way they formationed it,
there's gonna be a space there now you can make rally,
make the tackle, no doubt. But I also think you're
defending a crazy line because the kicker for Dallas is
crushing it.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
So you feel like so you feel like that that
player basically went analytically say hellkay, hemping and jumping and
I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the slant away.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's not in that moment, like I think that's probably
something they talked about in the week and like and
this is the other thing, like if and then again
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And this is and this is nothing at the player
because I hear all the talk, but I think who's
better than him?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I feel like he's it ain't nobody we have at
right ConA.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's how I look at I just want to say
this too, Like I said this on a different show,
but like the nature of a fifty to fifty ball
is that it's a low percentage completion. And so basically
when he's in that kind of phase, if you pause
the tape and just said, hey, he was perfect, does
this ball get completed, I'd be like, no, he's right, Dan,
he So the fact that gets completed, you gotta gotta
be like, hey, good job Dallas. Hey know a guy
(13:31):
get paid to Yeah. But I guess what I'm saying
is like I'm not so mad about that. I'm mad
about the not carrying in Tampa too. I'm mad about
misfitting a run. Like that's the stuff that they control.
Because when you're playing Dallas like trey Amos had a
similar completion in the like kin La has a great
rush pressure on Dak balls completed to trey Amos like Dak.
Dak and Pickens have been doing that all year like
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that's like their superpower. It's like when you play Philly,
like they're going to run the football because that's what
they do. But you got to make sure that they're
gonna get like, let's say, four opportunities in a game
where they just look like ballers. It's the other stuff.
You got to be perfect on the minutia because you
just got to chalk it up.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Like when you're playing like Randy Moss back in the day. Yeah,
he's gonna get something. He's gonna get too deep passes.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But you but as a defense, you gotta say, hey,
we're not gonna let you get a thirty yard run
on second and five.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, we got you.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Like those are the ones that I think add up
over the course of a game and lead to these
things that we're talking about where it's like, man, they're
in bad position because of X, y Z. And those
are things that I feel like and French and speak.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
To this the paper cuts. Yes, it's paper cuts. It's
the small unforced errors.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That is that a way to say it too. It's
the consistency, and I think that applies to offense too, right, Yeah,
It's like if you look at it, it's like Hey man,
we miss targeted a run and it ends up being
a second and eight instead of a second and five.
We missed a completion to a receiver or the receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know. I did this attend of I'm a Nerd.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I went back and watch every drop back from
this year and found some of the where the route
depths to see how I was running with like Terry
or Demo, and it's at five and then this player
that's in it running it at eight. Yeah, and it's
just and it looks like a bad miss, but it's like, hey,
we're a little bit off right. And so to Tanni's point,
and it's the same thing with defense, it's the alignment,
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assignment execution part of the defense. It's the alignment assignment
execution part of the offense that I think is the
thing you're feeling when you're when you're talking about the
lack of fluidity or the lack of consistency on defense.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And I don't want to put words in your mouth, but
that's kind of what I know. Const on defense just
is not there yet.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
They haven't found their vibe yet, they haven't found their
flow yet.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
But I feel that defensively, if I've seen more of us,
you know, in certain games where we won and we.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Had our way, it didn't look the same, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
And even in that game, let's be real, if it
ain't for some of those explosives defensively, man, we we
boughted them.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Up at time, but we had three stops, that is true.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
The offense got a chance to go out there and
do something, and we didn't do nothing, flat line, you
see what I'm saying. So those are the opportunities at
the defense, even with them not you know, consideringly, Like
if you look to the fans, yeah, they didn't play well. Yeah,
as us playing ball, you're gonna have those. You're gonna
have them. Understand they I wont playing the game where
our defense gave up three hundred something yards yeah to
(16:20):
a pass up. Yeah, And we still won because we
was sharp on our part and we played the complimentary
football knowing that they gave us the time, They gave
us a couple of stops, and we went out there
and did what we had to do.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
That's it, the complimentary football, right Like Flug always did
the booth review with Fletch and he was all mad
about the defense and I was like, I look at
this as an offensive thing.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, you know, you go three and out.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
We don't get a drive going on score points, Like,
not only are you not scoring points, but you're not
giving the defense time to wrestleever put to make the adjustments,
talk about different looks, and so that's again like the
complimentary pull. The football thing is so comprehensive again because
we talked about it, the targets getting.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Smaller and smaller as well as, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We need to make sure that we kind of play
this way in order to win football games. Right, So
we talked a lot about what the issues were. Can
we offer some solutions? Yeah, yeah, but we've all played
a lot of football.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
What are the solutions here? What you want to start with? Offensive?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Keep chopping wood, man, I'm talking about as a whole,
keep chopping wood.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I think one of the things people, what do you
mean by that? Just keep putting in, putting in the reps?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Like, but then the word to me, you know how
people say, oh I can't I'm not a great great driver.
So how do you get better at driving? You keep trying,
you keep drying the wheel, you keep you keep going.
Like as a receiver, I didn't start this thing running
those routes the way I did. I didn't know how
to stem, I didn't know how to set up guys
on a comeback round. I didn't know how to run
a different you know, postcone to stop route without putting
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the reps in.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So, as a football team, the.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Only way we can get better doing during the season,
which people might feel like, well, it's the season now,
whatever you are, you who you are. No, We've overcome
these kind of you know, setbacks and losses in the
seabo before. Yeah, I've been on the team where we
had to win five in a row. I've been on
the team we went seven in a row. Yeah, I've
been a team we won four in a row. All
those teams that I was on and we did that
went to the postseason off of those games. So the
(18:02):
only way you get better. Also being said, we are
like I said, we're hurting, we crippled, we beat up,
But we can't talk about that.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
We got to keep marching. You have to go out
there and chop wood.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You got to go out there, put the reps in,
put great reps in so they can carry over to
the game.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
We're the real playmakers, really standing up, I won't playmakers
like I felt like every game last year win lose
a droughts one one of the two guys that were
just making plays, play at the play at the play,
and I feel like we haven't had that playmaker's gap
this year.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I look at the stuff we went through or we're
going through right now with our receivers, and I sit
here and shake my head. Was like, I swear to you,
and you know, I'm the type of guy normally say things,
but sometimes you don't like to put that in the universe.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
But when we didn't bring back Dum and when we
didn't bring back.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
To the kids, I was like, boy, I hope none
of our key little guys cause we ain't have many
get hurt, get hurt or not be there for us,
because I feel like when you in your second year,
you don't want to be leaning on guys that's knew
or guys that wasn't here last year making those making
those plays with your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
See what I'm saying. Having those two guys not to
say that.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
It's easy to say that now because they're over there
doing they're doing, but it's always hard to That's one
of the things we preach about for quarterbacks, young quarterbacks,
keeping that oc right.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But also what people fail to realize if you keep those.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Guys in the room that he went out there and
was productive with that helps him out a lot better.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You know, he's familiar.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
So it's like, man, not having Terry for that that
amount of time in the preseason, then you double down.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You got used to.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Debo and now you don't have him for that one,
And then you're like, nor was the only other guy
that you can say at least he was here and
he know how to get back out there and be.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
He's a veteran. He ain't here.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
So now you left with and McCaffrey think Lord that
he was here last year because you can see some of.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That laud he got back up after they kickout on time.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Now toughest now he's daddy's son, toughest nails. But I'm
just saying, like all that stuff to me piles up
to why you see things not being as fluid.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yep, Yeah, No, I think I think Tanna hit the
nail on the head there. The playmaker things important. It's
just it's about like when it's bad. We've been on
bad teams. Yeah, got to refocus.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I started and six my career first year when water
Shattenham we got here, Jeff Jory with the quarterback, we started,
and six we put Tony Banks in.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We went off seven straight wins.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
All right, So as bad as it looks, we can
get it together.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
We can. We can.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
We can recall the troops and get everything moving. And
from my point of view, reinforcements are coming in Sam
Cosmy and Terry McLain and dee Bo Salmon's so I
am eager to see the guys that we still got.
I just want them to play together. Yeah, I want
them to practice together. I want them to like really
get in form. And they haven't had a chance to
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get into farm because they haven't all been healthy at
the same time.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, So I think it's about banking those reps, focusing
on the details and stricken and wins together here. But yeah,
but I was talking about that game. Let's pay some bills, Fred,
and then we'll talk about Kansas City.
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Speaker 2 (22:30):
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Speaker 1 (22:40):
The drink, all right, boys, I got another game coming
up this week.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yes, we build Monday night football.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Versus the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes, And so let's talk
about this. And I guess we'll start with the offense.
And their offense is held by one Patrick Mahomes, who's
pretty good at football.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yep, maybe Jesus himself Jesus of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, he is. And so I think the thing is question,
how do you slow him down?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
He got his weapons back right now on the outside.
That makes them very scary. Uh, this is how you
do it. But checko in that running game? Are they
hot and cold?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
All right?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
If you can make a Andy Reid lad offense one dimensional,
meaning they're gonna have to go out here and pass
the ball for that fifty times. And I know this
kind of sound counter productive, but if you forts Patty
Mahon to pass the ball that many time, he will
make mistakes. He's just like any other human beings. He
will make mistakes. He will turn the ball over. Make
them one dimensional, make them throw the ball, make them
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run the ball.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I don't care. Make them one dimension to say something
real quick. I want you to.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I think that's the craziest things Fret's ever said. The
most insane thing you've ever said. You've said some crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I want.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I don't care if the ball I want to I'm
gonna play run like when we play, I don't want
Joe Burrow touching that thing. I'll play a light box
he want. It's the craziest thing you ever Listen to me.
The run game does this.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
When somebody can ground and pound you, that means it's
gonna be longer drives. This means it's a physicality being
laid out there, and that means we can't stop you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But are you like this is an outfense. Let me
ask you this.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Are y'all prone to make mistakes passing the ball, a
running the ball? Which one do you probe to make
the most? You could pass?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So so, but like you're gonna have a miss targeted run,
You're gonna get a holding call. Patrick Mahomes, Like I
watched every throw from this year. That dude is a
straight ball. I understand saying if I can get the
if I get the rifle out of the assassin's head.
Go go for it.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
I say, we zone that thing off at times and
send somebody. I mean, I'm something saying you're talking about reinforcements.
No sending whoever the Avengers is that we are on
our team, go out there and say today.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Send them.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
We need I need to.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I want to see him run.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
I want to see him running, trying to get away
the whole game when they when they when he's dropping
back to pay. I think, Man, don't get me wrong.
We gotta play football, and it's easier. We can win
this game. We can win this game and not make
this a hopeless.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Jacksonville just beat them.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I'm not saying that jackson four and three year right, yeah, three,
and they're definitely beatable. I'm just saying, like, but for us,
when it comes to just trying to play our best
brand of football that we can play as a commander,
you know, team bro, we need to we need to
look like the guys that we saw last year flying
with their hairs on fire. Yeah, playing with that form
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of violence that coach talked about offensively, because I feel
like that's what makes us who we are up front
being disrupted.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Can we take over the line of spirpers this week.
Do we have a chance of doing that?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
We need those guys to do that, you know, because
I feel like if you make it money up front
from I don't care what they do passing or run,
it it get bingo.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So to Tannis point, Kingsley Sumataia is a backup left guard.
He's a rookie struggles at times. Tray Smith is on
the injury report this week, so they're gonna have a
backup a right guard. D Obviously, Greed Humphrey is the
best guard center in football potentially, But I look at
payn kin on those two young backup type players.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
And that is something that's a that's a win that
could that could.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Definitely affect the outcome of this game for sure. Josh
Shimmits their right tackles on the injury report as well
or their left tackle, excuse me. So that means Jalen More,
their backup, is gonna be there. He's played well and
they paid them like a starter. But I think Josh
Shimmans is playing like a special football player. So there
is some injuries, some kind of moving pieces. This is
gonna sound crazy, but this offense to me, the stuff
that I watched, it is a horizontal offense. They want
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to run most definitely hard to run choices. They want
to run flats, they want to run screens, And so
part of me is like, let's play man coverage, let's
take away the r P O.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Are you not afraid of the legit speed on the outside.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
So when I watch Xavier Worthy from Worthy, when I
watched Taekwon Thordon, they're both four two guys. Yeah, they're
like they're track guys. And so when I see quarters
and you can speak to this Fred you got but
they put hands on them, and those guys don't fight
through contact.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
They're not gonna be good at that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So they do get kind of bogged down, they do
get kind of mired up, and they do. And the
thing is they're not taking they're not taking like shots
like every shot they take is Patrick Mahomes like buying time,
scrambling and.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
They running the second and third round. Yeah, then they
are punted that threat. Right.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
But with that being said, here go we were marching
up in there. You saw all the shots that people
taking on us. That's true in the game.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
In the game, that's just how it is. But I
guess what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Like, that's a great point, Tanna, But to me, it's
like I kind of want to be aggressive and just
say like.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I'm glad you're not the decoy and.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Don't let because I don't think. Okay, now that Rashid
Rice is back, yeah, he's the guy that can win
versus man.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Man, he could beat anybody inside eyes.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
So that's the thing that makes me a little bit
of how did.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
He run his first game?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Because I know he ran good highlights, but I just
know he wouldn't do he have his gear if.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
He's got fast, but it's the shorter the short area.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, he does that well, I know he does that well.
I saw him fight off of the move. Yeah, buddy,
his face. Imagine he's still scored. So I'm like, when
when you're doing that, you're strong. So he ain't having
no problem, No, he have no problem.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But so I guess is that a crazy thing to say? Fred,
Like they're fast the perimeter, but they don't run routes. Well,
like I say, obviously, Rashid Weiss is a different animal.
Kelsey is not what he was. He's a great zone
to receiver. Yeah, and like you see that so I'm like,
why do we want to give him what they want?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So you want my mother?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
I was one that dude, can we can we do
something that we haven't done with you know, because like
I don't know if we run now Now I don't
watch our defense as much, and especially when I'm watching
the film, I'm not looking at the.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Coverages as well. But can we give a form of
cover six?
Speaker 5 (29:02):
And you know what I mean, Like you know, I'm
two on one side for on the other side, you know,
press the cover of the guy who we think that's
gonna stretch the field, which is worthy and when he
on the field, when you get see Thornton on the field,
maybe him too. But but try to be disruptive to
those guys because I feel like if we if we
play that kind of defense where I'm gonna press the
hell out of these guys on the outside and I'm
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gonna send somebody now give it gives you know, Patter
is a magical, He's a magician. He finds the way
to get out of it. But you you slow things
down for those guys who we know that looking for
a track meet. Now he has to go to somebody else.
Now he has to get out of danger and do something,
and that gives us time to try to bottle them up.
So I'm just you know, I'm just asking us questions
because you ask the question of how we stop them,
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and I'm sending in my head is like, what have
you seen that we've done already this year that you
want to see again for us to slow them down.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
What I would love to see is when Joe Jeter
comes in with a base game plan. I think back
to the Chargers game, or I think back to the
Raiders game or the New York Times. He come with
a base planned Yeah, and then his change up pitches
so like and against the chargeship was this inverted cover too?
Justin Hubber goes, oh, I don't know what that is,
holds it for a second to get a sack. Yeah,
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same thing actually versus Dallas, Like we had two sacks
in that game, should have three. It was all versus quarters.
We showed a lot of quarters this year, but run quarters.
He goes, oh, what is that sack?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So when Joe Wood has the change up pitches lined up, well,
I think that's that to me is going to be key.
It's like going with what you want to do, which
if I was a defensive coordinator, like it'd be like
man coverage, fire zone or of dog pressures, like bring
that extra guy to handle Patrick Mahomes. And then I
need to have a great changeup that looks like man
but it's going to be zoned, you know what I'm saying. Like,
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that's where I think.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You play a West Coast offense, which and to Reid
is true to the West Coast, but it's a vertical
West Coast.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think he runs.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You have to win first down, they offense do not
get to move and if they lose first down, if
they lose first down, they get off track.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I actually thought about you last night because you know
you're always like two man. Yeah, I felt like this
is a great two man game, even with Paddy running
a little bit so because of because of how horizontal
the offense is. Yeah, I want to see if we
could keep it tight. Yeah, and again like with Patrick Mahomes,
you got to deal with it like he's scrambled more
this year than he has any like in the last
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So I agree with what you're saying, but it like
something like that where we can get a little bit
of a ceiling.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You can steal some plays.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, right, And I don't know. And that's that's
why this is so challenging because there's really not like
a great solution. But it goes back to what we're
talking about, where it's just like you're gonna they're gonna
get theirs right, they're gonna find their points. Yeah, but
in those critical moments where it's third and eight.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Can you win? Can we win? Can you win? And
that's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I say, it's just so paramount that we win first down.
If you can make them second and loan, it makes
West Coast offenses get out of the identity.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
The identity is to move the ball quick fast and
then a.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Hurry right, sicken and loans kill a wist Coast outfits
to make them go into only survival mode. When you
get them into survival mode, now they're a different offense.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
And I think the main thing we talked about in
the Dallas game, I think a lot of that applies
and carries over because of how good the Dallas offense
was is we got to play complimentary football. I know,
we want to put a lot of otis on the
defense to stop them. Yeah, but if the offense can
possess play ball control, it's not even any ball control.
Just like strict drives, ye get first down.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
We need those twelve thirteen, fourteen play drives. That makes
Patty Mahomes watch the game, that takes out, that takes
the timing off, that does everything, And can't special teams
get a turnover, can't space teams make a good return.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
We need something to shorten the field for the offense.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Like the one thing about it, When the offense has
a short field, they usually scored. I don't care if
it's three, I don't care if it's six, they usually score.
Can we play that company? Minry football? Defensively, a special
team and offense.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
We just need some players to be made. I think
that's one of the things that I've seen that we had.
We got a lack of this year. Offensively, I mean
went in doubt, somebody made a play. Yeah, third down,
we need to play made somebody, you know, And that's
defensive offense, especially offensively. I mean, I ain't never seen
an offense look like we've we've been looking on third down.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I'm like, I'm sitting there with.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
My fingers crossed, like wh're gonna make a play and
maybe it's Robbie chosen Robbie. Robbie such a surprised every
you know what I mean, offensively, Robbie shold that showed
me last week day. Right, man, throw him to the ball,
because right now he seemed hungry. He seems like he
got a point to prove, and that's what he's been
that dude before.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Bingo.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Give him a chance, because when you have those opportunities,
they slim to none, Bro, and you have to go
out there and rise when the opportunity come. Like you know,
That's why I say, that's one of the things that
I felt like as a third as a guy coming
in on third down in year twelve, in twenty twelve
when we was playing and and you know, like this
is my only shot.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I was.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
I couldn't wait to third down because I'm lazy for
I'm like, give me, give me that matchup I'm looking for.
And that time my team I was gonna get it
because you have to pee on that side. And they
was trying to make sure they double him or do
something different with him, and I'm in the inside and
they think eighty nine ain't eighty nine no more. Yeah gotcha, Yeah,
got you. So I want to see one of these
guys take advantage of his opportunity. Like I said, it's
a hell of opportunity right now, go beat somebody. Beat somebody,
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be that man on tape last week. The coach can say, oh,
he beat this guy every time we going at him
this week, you know what I mean. Somebody got to
make a play.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
And so with that complimentary football, I think there's a
lot of challenges on the defensive side that they have
to contend with. Like you got Chris Jones, those linebackers
are really good both.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That defense is still top top one of the top
defenses in lead.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Really like you like watch brilliant watching the clips like
they're to Fred's point, they are crazy Wall coach runfits
are good, They're really disciplined. Their third down stuff is awesome.
So like it's going to be a challenge. But so
it comes down to like how does Cliff scheme up
points here? And so I think the thing that again
i'd personally like to see is like, can we get
back to some of these looks where we've got a.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Run called We've got a pre Snapp kind of screen
on here?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, because like usually like last week versus Dallas, are
bringing all this Nickels strong safety pressure, like you just
just that out to the receiver, they stop running. That
pressure makes it easier for the offensive line get it
to the slot quick. For whatever reason, we got away
from that. Can we get back some of that the
hurry up stuff. Let's simplify the calls and simplify what
they're going to do, and again that leads to fast
three and outs. It can be kind of scary, but
that's like what you're major in, so it's leading to
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our superpower.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Can we major in tempo?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
If we major in tempo, the best way to stop
a good defense is to tire them the hell out
and we get back. This's what really made gave us
an edge on the offense with did tempo? That tempo
makes you as a defense check to your chicks. If
we know your chicks about the third.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Quarter, we know what I'd like to see two And
I feel like this is something that's I don't know,
maybe because like I say, I always lean the logan
when it comes to these questions like this. What's noticeable
to me if you don't have a guy that did
something well offensively for us, then we don't run that
kind of offense no more. We changed like so, so
what I'm trying to say is, remember how Debo will
come in motion at nauseum running his love fake you're
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running again, and then he might get it this time
when all officers I played in. Even if you have
a guy that's primarily gonna be doing that, you had
a second guy that rant them same reps. So if
he's not in the game or he can't do it,
ident we gonna still have this identity because now we
go away from it, then we're not getting the defense
what they want.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You gotta some time. You gotta love these people to sleep,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Show them something that they've seen me for Oh we
got something else, de boat out here, but they still
doing that, you know what I mean. So when I
don't see some of the things that we've done with
other guys, it bothered me because I'm like, damn, see,
we're not We're not being us. Don't get me wrong,
I understand that Cliff and all the other old season
this league has a gang of stuff in these bags,
so they can always pull out different plays, and certain
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plays don't work you know, on and on and on
to different different weeks. Different weeks brings different ideas and
different plays. But I would love to see some of
those guys that we have with the same skill set. Yeah,
the guy to say I can do this, you know
what I mean, Let me do this, you know, let
me be the guy. Maybe maybe we have twenty two
in a game now as that Debo guy, because all
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you do is being a running back. Yeah, and put
another running back in a game and say, okay, we've
fins showed him something that we showed them with Debo.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Now with the young fella.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, you know what I mean, that's something that we
it's hard to like speculate on because we don't.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Know, That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that we should.
I would love to see it learning and how Jalen's learning.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
They were both young players, but it it did feel
like the tennis point like in their twelve Like one
of the ways they hit it was with Debo's kind
of orbiting the flomation. Yeah, now it was a little
bit more stagnant. That's not really who they've been. So
can they get back to kind of some of that
stuff that they were successful with earlier in the year,
and again, like Tennis said, I've been super impressed with
Cliffs since he's gotten here. The whole offensive staff. None,
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it's just about like getting it. That's the other thing
is like going on long drives. Let you get into
that bag a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It does. I feel like they're just screened some things
together and we got that three.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Like I think about the Giants game or when Marcus
played I guess that was against Las Vegas when they
they hurry up to like an unusual formation and then
they had a gash. You know, like they haven't got
into that because the offense has been a little locks
of the fluidity of it. So I think that's really
interesting to kind of see to think about something I'm
really exciting to watch is how Cliff handles at how
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Joe what handles the defense. I think the other thing,
too real quick on this is like Marcus mariotas slash
Shade Daniels versus the receivers. You know, like how hard
is it for them to build that chemistry? And you've
alluded to it a little bit. There's been guys that
have stepped up, but it's like I think that's another thing,
like the chemistry, the detail with new people.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I would say, how can you get chemistry when the
receiver hurt and the quarterback gets hurt.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
We don't practice together. We play together, but we don't
like practice is everything?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I know?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Allen iverson then drop them turd on practice, But timing
wide receivers, I can only get time by throwing you
the ball over and over again.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
But I say this, man because being a guy that
had been in those shoes playing times, I've been in
a game where I didn't catch a pass from a
guy he had to try it out there because somebody
got hurt at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So when you at this level, people.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Ain't caring about how much time you got with him.
You gotta make the play. He knows where the ball
need to go. You know where you need to be
at make a play, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, So obviously interesting, so obviously really interesting kind of
dynamic this week against a really good opponent. Jason has
something to set up here. I don't really know what's
going on here. Who's going to come out help us
out with it? But it's player A has twenty three receptions.
Two hundred and twenty nine yards with four touchdowns. Player
B has twenty three or thirty two receptions for three
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hundred and seventy five yards and two touchdowns. And we're
supposed to guess who those players are. And I have
no idea, Jason, So either one of those I thought
you want to go with your position the time. Yeah,
So I was gonna say maybe Zach Ertz and Travis Kelcey. Yeah,
but Jason kind of gave me like a rise smile, like,
no way, it's that maybe.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
No, he's trying to throw you. So can I ask
this question? Are these guys on either team?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Which team are them on?
Speaker 5 (40:07):
On?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, we're going with the ing I'm gonna go with
the tight ends. Oh it's easy. Got four touchdowns, Yeah,
it's got four touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
It's funny when you watch them though, like they are
playing real similar ball right now.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
No, No, they're old, dirty old men out there running routes.
Ain't a dirty old man old men at their running route.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
And you know what, the one thing I can say
about both of them, because they skill set was never
based off speed.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Ye, they're aging will.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yeah, because they use their brain. I mean They're smart.
They know how to get into the zone. They know
how to beat, beat, beat the man in front of him,
and if it's not dead, they find a way.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
They got some teas about them. They they just understand
how to separate and how to get open.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
You know, I look at zach Ertz, you know, being
that he's here with us, and I get a chance
to watch them, man, and I'm like, I think the
world of them because I know what it feels like
when I see that.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
To be a dirty little run he got. I know
what it feels like.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
I've been there and to get open with that, Bro,
you got something, you got something big, you know what
I mean. Yeah, I mean I broke because I've been there.
Like I tell you my last few years, Bro, how
that thing.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Was on bone on bone.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I used to have to just get it together. Yeah,
but you couldn't tell I get out there, come gain time.
I'm sixty minutes. I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
But during the week, boy, you heard that thing was
singing and mean singing, like singing the opera.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
So I love it, man.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
I love the fact that he's able to still go
out there and be dominant.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Just at this age, at this you know, at this
point of his career, and both of those guys, Man,
you just get those guys a chance. Like you know,
when you have guys like that on your team, it
just make everything else better. And that's why you see
Pat Mahomes have so much. I guess you can say, uh,
success with the other guys because you gotta check for
you know, eighty seven, you gotta make you got to
(42:10):
see where he's at safe and you're going to give
him so much attention at times and the other guys
get those those I guess you can say opportunities that
the normal see what won't get if you didn't have
a guy like that on your side.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, so he's been a guy I think they could
probably lean on for sure. All Right.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
So that's kind of our Kansas City preview. A lot
a lot of work to do there on both sides
of the football, but it all comes down to assignment, alignment, technique, execution.
I'm gonna throw finish in there. They got to play
a five five prong game there and do a good
job with that. Yeah, but we gotta pay some bills, right,
So let's get to these am.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I doing the West Virginia. Am I doing the guy?
If you know the West Virginia tanna? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
I put some put that set and swag on, but
let's go I do got. How do you feel when
you switch to Geico and save on your car insurance?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's like finding that parking spot and on a busy
outdoor cafe where you are meeting some of your old
friends from college, and you about the parallel park and
that old, soo tight spot, and then everyone in the
cafe stops to watch, and you nail it.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Never did in one try.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Like the parallel parking baller, you are nobody clapped, but
you know they really want to yep.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Switching and saving with Goico feels just.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Like that Let's get more with guy cuts A funny
like that no no, no, because it sends you into
a place all us been parallel parking before, wondering who
watching me?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Watching me?
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I don't worry about that.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
I just be It's just me and that wheel and
that damn parking spot. Pushing the button now, Mom, I
can't trust the rowbot. I do at times most of
the time to work every day by myself. Right, look,
I don't like. But when I am driving, trust me,
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there's two things I could do that you will never
know about me. I can swim and I can drive
better than better than a lot of you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
So well, I put that out there. Why do you
think so you can swim?
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Well, they say that people can't swim, but I'm not
just saying because when you look at when you look
at guys that's that's from around water, they usually can't swim. Yeah,
there's a lot of guys that you want you believe
like I got friends that you be like, Bro, you
grew up here with me, and you can't swim. Listen,
a lot of dudes can't swim, being from Florida or
being from like you should, you should be able to swim.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
I got a gill right here, I can listen. I
can go hit something he got.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
So you want them things that's coming out of space
that you already here, you already here.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I can get under that water and I can live.
I can here, got.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
All right, team listen enough countdowns for the Ultimate Fall
Showdown in West Virginia, switching jerseys from gold from green
to gold. Ready to light up the hill size if
you want the best seat in the house for the
end of the season. Spectacler, it's time to hit the
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country roads. Make your move to West Virginia. Seriously, don't
drop the ball on this one, West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
That was pretty good. It was Jesus.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Okay, So now it's time for hell yeah, hell now,
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Speaker 2 (45:46):
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(46:16):
You do only know what he wanted to be steal.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
All right, Hey, we got we got a deadline, we
got someone coming in here after we got hurry up,
so okay, hell yeah, hell no, Just Washington score thirty points.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
If we're gonna win the game, were gonna need thirty
all right, hell yes, going to get the grain?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Hell no, hell No, I'm kind of hell not, because
I don't know. If you need thirty to beat Kansas City.
You gotta make that plight you gotta make. You gotta
make that thing one knows.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
To put up thirty against We got to clicking at
one point.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Yeah, but we got to but we got to win
more than anything. But if anything, we don't have to
do it. It's going thirty points. You got to be efficient.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
If we invite the run. Yeah, we possessed the football.
We're gonna make the game. You lose possessions, right, That's
kind of what I think it's gonna be. So you're
saying twenty four twenty, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
If they get that, if they if they had that
extra possession, Yeah, then we're talking.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
We're talking thirty eighteen, twenty four seventeen. Yeah, I'm gonna
go great against y'all.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Got no Yeah, but I like I like the confidence,
Fred because I think like you, I agree, I gotta
got hit all right?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Uh hell yah, hell no.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Does Washington win the turnover battle?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
It's the time. It's the time.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I defense stand up for Show me who you Trey
Amos get your first pick on National TV Monday Night,
kwalm mort get everybody off your back, reach Homie, I
make that plate, Frank and louvu when.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah, let's go friend, all right, I'm ready? Yeah, hell yeah.
I was gonna say hell now, but I'm gonna play.
Don't play right now. I might want to see it
all right.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Just reminder, you're brought to you by the US Army.
They say your work defines who you are. Monday through Friday,
nine to five, you're clocking in. But what happens on
the what happens to your time? You could take it easy,
or you could use that time to get better. In
the US Army Army we think differently. Your time should
be used to improve the skills you do have to
learn some you don't to push yourself in new ways,
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That's how you make progress, That's how you make impact
on the world around you. It's your time. How you
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US Army Reserve. Yeah, I'm juiced up after Fred, Let's
(48:35):
get this last Hell yeah, hell no, it's Is there
a way Washington wins this game?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Hell yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Helia's three ways out physibly defensively best.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Team yep together, Dude that Mike drops boom. That's going
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Speaker 2 (48:58):
That's it, don't you all mean?
Speaker 1 (49:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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and Satana Austin. As always, we're in the Big Bear
AI Command Center studio and Fred, Yeah, I want to
buy tickets? How do they buy tickets?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Right there? Right there? You see that right there? The
little thing that Frey forget about it every week.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
No, no, listen, it's hard to see because whenever hand
you put up, it's the opposite.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You ain't got to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Get wait till there we go.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
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We've got a lot to get to today's show. Yeah,
a lot of feelings to navigate a lot of big
emotions to deal with, and so we're gonna start with
are the Cowboys recap? And I know, like you, like
you guys out there, we weren't super stoked on it, No,
(01:21):
we're not. But I will say there were some positive
things that I felt like we could look to to
say that this thing could get better sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Those things.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So the first thing that sticks out to me is saying, hey,
you know, complimentary football, like we got to do it.
We're gonna have to do it moving forward. People say, well,
we're very complimentary, and I would say there were flashes. Yeah,
we had that Tressway punt that was down inside the one.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Percy Butler.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We've been missing it, like you don't understand when you're
missing the guy on special teams like that, Percy Butler,
we've been missing it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So that was excellent.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We get the safety and then we have a seven play,
sixty five yard touchdown drive that ends with a Jane
Daniels touchdown to Zach Er.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So I look at that, what.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Was that probably like an eight minute period of the game, Yeah,
and I thought, this is how you win this football game.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Best teams, defense, offense, All right, all LinkedIn together and
because the calls and effect of it, because the special
team stopped them at the one, the run paying got
the safety. Because the run payin got the safety, we
return and now the offense gets back on the field
and we drive sixty five yards.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's the difference.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And that was the first time I had saw the
new kickoff from.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
From a safety perspective because they had.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
To kickoff father didn't regular kickoffs regular kickof causing us
to have a short kickoff return and now we go
in and score.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's a great point.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And so you know, I think great play by Percy
Grey pump player by trust like they're.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Both capable of doing that all the time.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, because I think even Percy has a great tackle
later in the same game, which I talked about with
Coach on the Game Plan show, which is gonna be
fun to talk about him. But then Drawn Payne, he's
one of our better players. And I actually I really
like the call by Joe Wood Junior. He's bringing a
little bit of h I want to say, will pressure there,
they stunt the line. Doran plays, Duran Payne is playing
into the tight end. That's a matchup He's gonna win.
Every single time ends it being a tackle for loss
(03:13):
for safety, we get possession back, and then I think offensively,
you saw some of the rhythm that we've come to expect,
some of the efficiency we've come to expect from this offense.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I mean, I think, to me, man, just you know,
I want to kind of talk about both of them. Great,
great job by Percy first and foremost him and Tres,
you know, making that play normal. You see guys get
down there and the first thing they do is I
don't want to go in the end zone. I'm gonna
push it back, and then the ball goes into somebody
who can't catch, and the ball end up in the
end zone for a touchback. So I was happy that
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he said, you know what, I'm gonna take this under
my own hand, my own control on the tight rope
this thing. Make sure I put these guys there paying
go out there. Man, paym be doing that all year,
beating his guy.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, here's what we did. I mean, And I know
it's shrouded by the loss.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Like you had a great game, man, phenomenal game, man.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
So I love the fact that you can see all
the phases come together and play the kind of football
we want. You spoke about a complimentary football, special teams
being special defense, go out there and say hey, thanks,
thanks for this opportunity. Then the offense come and counter
that and say, you know what, thank you to thank
both of you guys. Let me go out here and
do our think. And the one word that you said
that I want to speak on is us being fluid.
(04:21):
You didn't say the word, but what you said meant that,
you know, us having a rhythm, fluid fluidity.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's why we haven't been so successful offensively to me
this year because I don't see that enough. The rhythm,
the rhythm is everything. Having that fluidity. Having that rhythm
makes you have the offense that we've seen before and
makes you have the production that we saw in that
particular drive.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So I think that's a really good segue into that's
what that to me, that sequence is what this team
needs to do to win football games.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You're gonna have to you gotta stack.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You gotta be supported. Right, everyone's banged up. The receivers
are banged up, the defensive lines banged up.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
We're banked up.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
In safety, like everywhere has scars, a big any of
the script.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, we need to see the wheelchair man on someone outside.
Man around here, Man, we hurting up. We need that
mush boom from Super Mario.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Hurt Well, you got fans asking me to suit up, bro,
and like jokingly, but not jokingly, come on, what forty
six year old wide receiver of my not you know
you got nothing in me?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
But yeah, man, we're hurting bro.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
But so basically, the analogy of to make is like
at the beginning of the season, you have a big target, right,
and with every injury, that target gets.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
A little bit smaller.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, and eventually it's kind of the size of a
quarter windows away, and so it becomes harder to hit.
But in order to hit it, you got to play
complimentary football, which is why we started with that. And
I think what Tanna was saying there about the fluidity
of the offense is a great place to start because
that's what it's got to be, and that's what it
looks like when it goes right. But when it doesn't
go right, let's talk about why it doesn't go right,
(05:54):
what we're seeing, and I guess we can start.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
We gonna start with defense. We want to start with
whatever you want with.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
The dragon in the world, right, the dragon? This is
a dragon a game. I want to know why he's
a dragon? Come on, tell me?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
As always story so.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Big because it's it's fantastical, all right. It's one of
those things that it doesn't exist at all.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It doesn't exist. The defense doesn't exist.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Right now, we're just not playing good like you know, member,
I get.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
What you're saying, because there are bright spots. Right, there's
two sacks of this game. There's a safety. There's a
couple of people used.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
But I think you, I think you Q. You got
bright spots, right, you Q under your own pit.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right, that's a bright people says that that's a bright spot.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't like to talk about bright spots. Consistency.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Old defense is about tackling, and we ain't tackling man,
and that that bothers me.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
At the end of the day, I always tell a.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Defense like this, if one person misses the tackle, that's
the other ten per people fault.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Because where are you?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Where are you? But tell me this? Are we hurt?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
And I'm gonna ask you this because you the you,
the guy to play defense. You the guy that watching
your your eye, your eye for certain things. Defensively might
be different from mine. From what I'm seeing, I don't
necessarily feel the tackling part is bigger than it's the elephant.
I don't think that's the that's the biggest feel like,
(07:20):
I don't think that's the biggest problem. I think the
biggest problem to us is the explosives, because I feel
like it's been games where we tackle better, but we
still haven't stopped the those believed.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Take care of.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But you know, it's funny, as you say explosives, I say,
I say run fits.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So it's kind of all.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
All of them, So all of them taking his place,
so taking his toll on us. But I feel like
at certain games one takeover.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Then you I think you feel the explosives more, but like.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Because they stick out, because you know, if you force
a team to play the kind of football that we've
seen these guys force the Chargers play, be methodical, and
then now I bats against the wall, make a play.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I feel like we've we have better outings or better
endings to the games when our defense play that kind
of football.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But when you're getting beat and you ain't even get started.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I mean, and like we just lined up in the
ball already.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Like it's tough to overcome.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Like a good example I think of what you're what
I think what we're both talking about is like, so,
for example, there's that first p I to Pickens, which
is a little bit of bderlne, but they called it whatever. Yeah,
so it was that that drive started second and ten.
They ran the ball, they got to second, they got
to third and h third and one. It's a play
action shot and everyone gets really sticky in third one.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, they ever take the shot down the field.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And so to me, it's like if you keep them
in second and ten, yeah, you don't give up a
big run there. Now the third and seven you can
kind of call the defense you want to call. And
so that's where So to me, let's just I think,
I think the thing we're all talking about here is
a just a general tackling.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
With the run fits what they're supposed to plays, a.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
General lack of consistency, not giving yourself a chance.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Always playing behind the chains as a defense never gives
you a chance to fire off, like you're always playing
on your heels. If I'm always playing on my heels.
That means none of my players I have like when
one person has a good game on this defense, all.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Of them have a good game.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
When one have a bad game, all of them having
a bad game. The play you sent me a right
with Wagner wasn't making the run fit all right? A
lot of people would think that Samah Steel, but Sarah Steel,
that ain't his response. I mean responsibility to get over
that hump. But could he been tight on his run fit? Yes,
So all of them are stepped off from where they
need to be. Even when like we give up a play,
(09:40):
we make a play, we give up a play, we
make a player. At one point you're gonna have to
make a play, make a play, make a player, stack
some plays on top of each other, and that's what
they gives you chance to really be the team. But
if you think you're gonna go out there with one
of the best offenses. And I told you, by Skinny
that when Dak started to run the ball, I'm telling
you he adds a different l to that off.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
He runs the ball at all this He just ran
up in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah he.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Was, Yeah, he got he got in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And you're talking about pickings CD Lamb pickings.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
In person, Like seeing him in person was incredible.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Like ceedee Lamb always have those kind of plays because
he's in the middle of the field and it seemed
like it just opens up because somebody missed, you know
what I mean, somebody didn't cover him up.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, But that's that's a great point to the two ten.
I started to cut you off, like that's Tampa too.
Someone should be carrying him, what I'm saying, in a
linebacker or whoever.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That was that good.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I think there was a different carry player in that look.
Someone should be carry him because it's an adverted to
and that's where it's like versus an offense like Dallas.
They're gonna get some place, like don't get some place
like the throw Tomos like crazy, the throat to uh,
the throw to Pickens right before half.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That was one of the best deep fifty fifty throws man.
That ball was perfect placement.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
But that's why he'm mad at Latim wre with that one.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, the only thing he didn't do is finish.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Not the finish part.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
It's to even give them that that opportunity because I
felt like to me and I'm like, I said, I'm
an offensive guy, and I you know me, I tell you,
I got a guy who who know the position just
like you didn't play at the claibory or the level
you played on, but been my guy since since I
know about that. I asked him, like, bro, and then
I asked London the double down noneing like, yeah, we don't.
We shouldn't be even giving up that kind of we
(11:28):
shouldn't be playing that. Clothes all see everything in front,
in front of everything should be in front of me.
So when I saw that and I'm like why I
had to go back and watch it, I'm like why
everybody It's like they playing off and like in some
kind of a zone.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So this particular person, let me just come it on
this real quick, just to give some context. Okay, And
again I would defer to London bo smart dude. I've
talked him a bunch. He knows ball backs in quarters coverage,
which is what it looks like they're in. Yeah, backside
of a four by one. It's going to turn into
mand coverage.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, it is cool, which is cool.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm not sure to like they kind of formationed it
up to get this look.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
The one on one on it.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
But what I'm asking is if I'm off, I'm playing
to me, I'm playing top down.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So what I would say too is like the most
common route run backs out of four by one in
the league right now is a slant.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh you think?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And so if you're off in quarters with the best
safety to your side looking away, and you got to
rally and tackle in space, like I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So give me a slant, then I take it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
So that's try and say like this is this and
this is like just to give context.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Especially with second and seventeen, give me the slant.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But I think, but I think the way they formationed it,
there's gonna be a space there now you can make rally,
make the tackle, no doubt. But I also think you're
defending a crazy line because the kicker for Dallas is
crushing it.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
So you feel like so you feel like that that
player basically went analytically say hellkay, hemping and jumping and
I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the slant away.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's not in that moment, like I think that's probably
something they talked about in the week and like and
this is the other thing, like if and then again
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And this is and this is nothing at the player
because I hear all the talk, but I think who's
better than him?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I feel like he's it ain't nobody we have at
right ConA.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's how I look at I just want to say
this too, Like I said this on a different show,
but like the nature of a fifty to fifty ball
is that it's a low percentage completion. And so basically
when he's in that kind of phase, if you pause
the tape and just said, hey, he was perfect, does
this ball get completed, I'd be like, no, he's right, Dan,
he So the fact that gets completed, you gotta gotta
be like, hey, good job Dallas. Hey know a guy
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get paid to Yeah. But I guess what I'm saying
is like I'm not so mad about that. I'm mad
about the not carrying in Tampa too. I'm mad about
misfitting a run. Like that's the stuff that they control.
Because when you're playing Dallas like trey Amos had a
similar completion in the like kin La has a great
rush pressure on Dak balls completed to trey Amos like Dak.
Dak and Pickens have been doing that all year like
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that's like their superpower. It's like when you play Philly,
like they're going to run the football because that's what
they do. But you got to make sure that they're
gonna get like, let's say, four opportunities in a game
where they just look like ballers. It's the other stuff.
You got to be perfect on the minutia because you
just got to chalk it up.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Like when you're playing like Randy Moss back in the day. Yeah,
he's gonna get something. He's gonna get too deep passes.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But you but as a defense, you gotta say, hey,
we're not gonna let you get a thirty yard run
on second and five.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, we got you.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Like those are the ones that I think add up
over the course of a game and lead to these
things that we're talking about where it's like, man, they're
in bad position because of X, y Z. And those
are things that I feel like and French and speak.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
To this the paper cuts. Yes, it's paper cuts. It's
the small unforced errors.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That is that a way to say it too. It's
the consistency, and I think that applies to offense too, right, Yeah,
It's like if you look at it, it's like Hey man,
we miss targeted a run and it ends up being
a second and eight instead of a second and five.
We missed a completion to a receiver or the receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know. I did this attend of I'm a Nerd.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I went back and watch every drop back from
this year and found some of the where the route
depths to see how I was running with like Terry
or Demo, and it's at five and then this player
that's in it running it at eight. Yeah, and it's
just and it looks like a bad miss, but it's like, hey,
we're a little bit off right. And so to Tanni's point,
and it's the same thing with defense, it's the alignment,
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assignment execution part of the defense. It's the alignment assignment
execution part of the offense that I think is the
thing you're feeling when you're when you're talking about the
lack of fluidity or the lack of consistency on defense.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And I don't want to put words in your mouth, but
that's kind of what I know. Const on defense just
is not there yet.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
They haven't found their vibe yet, they haven't found their
flow yet.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
But I feel that defensively, if I've seen more of us,
you know, in certain games where we won and we.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Had our way, it didn't look the same, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
And even in that game, let's be real, if it
ain't for some of those explosives defensively, man, we we
boughted them.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Up at time, but we had three stops, that is true.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
The offense got a chance to go out there and
do something, and we didn't do nothing, flat line, you
see what I'm saying. So those are the opportunities at
the defense, even with them not you know, consideringly, Like
if you look to the fans, yeah, they didn't play well. Yeah,
as us playing ball, you're gonna have those. You're gonna
have them. Understand they I wont playing the game where
our defense gave up three hundred something yards yeah to
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a pass up. Yeah, And we still won because we
was sharp on our part and we played the complimentary
football knowing that they gave us the time, They gave
us a couple of stops, and we went out there
and did what we had to do.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
That's it, the complimentary football, right Like Flug always did
the booth review with Fletch and he was all mad
about the defense and I was like, I look at
this as an offensive thing.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, you know, you go three and out.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
We don't get a drive going on score points, Like,
not only are you not scoring points, but you're not
giving the defense time to wrestleever put to make the adjustments,
talk about different looks, and so that's again like the
complimentary pull. The football thing is so comprehensive again because
we talked about it, the targets getting.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Smaller and smaller as well as, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We need to make sure that we kind of play
this way in order to win football games. Right, So
we talked a lot about what the issues were. Can
we offer some solutions? Yeah, yeah, but we've all played
a lot of football.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
What are the solutions here? What you want to start with? Offensive?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Keep chopping wood, man, I'm talking about as a whole,
keep chopping wood.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I think one of the things people, what do you
mean by that? Just keep putting in, putting in the reps?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Like, but then the word to me, you know how
people say, oh I can't I'm not a great great driver.
So how do you get better at driving? You keep trying,
you keep drying the wheel, you keep you keep going.
Like as a receiver, I didn't start this thing running
those routes the way I did. I didn't know how
to stem, I didn't know how to set up guys
on a comeback round. I didn't know how to run
a different you know, postcone to stop route without putting
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the reps in.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So, as a football team, the.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Only way we can get better doing during the season,
which people might feel like, well, it's the season now,
whatever you are, you who you are. No, We've overcome
these kind of you know, setbacks and losses in the
seabo before. Yeah, I've been on the team where we
had to win five in a row. I've been on
the team we went seven in a row. Yeah, I've
been a team we won four in a row. All
those teams that I was on and we did that
went to the postseason off of those games. So the
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only way you get better. Also being said, we are
like I said, we're hurting, we crippled, we beat up,
But we can't talk about that.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
We got to keep marching. You have to go out
there and chop wood.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You got to go out there, put the reps in,
put great reps in so they can carry over to
the game.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
We're the real playmakers, really standing up, I won't playmakers
like I felt like every game last year win lose
a droughts one one of the two guys that were
just making plays, play at the play at the play,
and I feel like we haven't had that playmaker's gap
this year.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I look at the stuff we went through or we're
going through right now with our receivers, and I sit
here and shake my head. Was like, I swear to you,
and you know, I'm the type of guy normally say things,
but sometimes you don't like to put that in the universe.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
But when we didn't bring back Dum and when we
didn't bring back.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
To the kids, I was like, boy, I hope none
of our key little guys cause we ain't have many
get hurt, get hurt or not be there for us,
because I feel like when you in your second year,
you don't want to be leaning on guys that's knew
or guys that wasn't here last year making those making
those plays with your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
See what I'm saying. Having those two guys not to
say that.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
It's easy to say that now because they're over there
doing they're doing, but it's always hard to That's one
of the things we preach about for quarterbacks, young quarterbacks,
keeping that oc right.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But also what people fail to realize if you keep those.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Guys in the room that he went out there and
was productive with that helps him out a lot better.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You know, he's familiar.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
So it's like, man, not having Terry for that that
amount of time in the preseason, then you double down.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You got used to.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Debo and now you don't have him for that one,
And then you're like, nor was the only other guy
that you can say at least he was here and
he know how to get back out there and be.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
He's a veteran. He ain't here.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
So now you left with and McCaffrey think Lord that
he was here last year because you can see some of.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That laud he got back up after they kickout on time.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Now toughest now he's daddy's son, toughest nails. But I'm
just saying, like all that stuff to me piles up
to why you see things not being as fluid.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yep, Yeah, No, I think I think Tanna hit the
nail on the head there. The playmaker things important. It's
just it's about like when it's bad. We've been on
bad teams. Yeah, got to refocus.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I started and six my career first year when water
Shattenham we got here, Jeff Jory with the quarterback, we started,
and six we put Tony Banks in.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We went off seven straight wins.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
All right, So as bad as it looks, we can
get it together.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
We can. We can.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
We can recall the troops and get everything moving. And
from my point of view, reinforcements are coming in Sam
Cosmy and Terry McLain and dee Bo Salmon's so I
am eager to see the guys that we still got.
I just want them to play together. Yeah, I want
them to practice together. I want them to like really
get in form. And they haven't had a chance to
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get into farm because they haven't all been healthy at
the same time.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, So I think it's about banking those reps, focusing
on the details and stricken and wins together here. But yeah,
but I was talking about that game. Let's pay some bills, Fred,
and then we'll talk about Kansas City.
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Speaker 2 (22:30):
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Speaker 1 (22:40):
The drink, all right, boys, I got another game coming
up this week.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yes, we build Monday night football.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Versus the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes, And so let's talk
about this. And I guess we'll start with the offense.
And their offense is held by one Patrick Mahomes, who's
pretty good at football.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yep, maybe Jesus himself Jesus of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, he is. And so I think the thing is question,
how do you slow him down?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
He got his weapons back right now on the outside.
That makes them very scary. Uh, this is how you
do it. But checko in that running game? Are they
hot and cold?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
All right?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
If you can make a Andy Reid lad offense one dimensional,
meaning they're gonna have to go out here and pass
the ball for that fifty times. And I know this
kind of sound counter productive, but if you forts Patty
Mahon to pass the ball that many time, he will
make mistakes. He's just like any other human beings. He
will make mistakes. He will turn the ball over. Make
them one dimensional, make them throw the ball, make them
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run the ball.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I don't care. Make them one dimension to say something
real quick. I want you to.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I think that's the craziest things Fret's ever said. The
most insane thing you've ever said. You've said some crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I want.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I don't care if the ball I want to I'm
gonna play run like when we play, I don't want
Joe Burrow touching that thing. I'll play a light box
he want. It's the craziest thing you ever Listen to me.
The run game does this.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
When somebody can ground and pound you, that means it's
gonna be longer drives. This means it's a physicality being
laid out there, and that means we can't stop you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But are you like this is an outfense. Let me
ask you this.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Are y'all prone to make mistakes passing the ball, a
running the ball? Which one do you probe to make
the most? You could pass?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So so, but like you're gonna have a miss targeted run,
You're gonna get a holding call. Patrick Mahomes, Like I
watched every throw from this year. That dude is a
straight ball. I understand saying if I can get the
if I get the rifle out of the assassin's head.
Go go for it.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
I say, we zone that thing off at times and
send somebody. I mean, I'm something saying you're talking about reinforcements.
No sending whoever the Avengers is that we are on
our team, go out there and say today.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Send them.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
We need I need to.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I want to see him run.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
I want to see him running, trying to get away
the whole game when they when they when he's dropping
back to pay. I think, Man, don't get me wrong.
We gotta play football, and it's easier. We can win
this game. We can win this game and not make
this a hopeless.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Jacksonville just beat them.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I'm not saying that jackson four and three year right, yeah, three,
and they're definitely beatable. I'm just saying, like, but for us,
when it comes to just trying to play our best
brand of football that we can play as a commander,
you know, team bro, we need to we need to
look like the guys that we saw last year flying
with their hairs on fire. Yeah, playing with that form
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of violence that coach talked about offensively, because I feel
like that's what makes us who we are up front
being disrupted.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Can we take over the line of spirpers this week.
Do we have a chance of doing that?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
We need those guys to do that, you know, because
I feel like if you make it money up front
from I don't care what they do passing or run,
it it get bingo.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So to Tannis point, Kingsley Sumataia is a backup left guard.
He's a rookie struggles at times. Tray Smith is on
the injury report this week, so they're gonna have a
backup a right guard. D Obviously, Greed Humphrey is the
best guard center in football potentially, But I look at
payn kin on those two young backup type players.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
And that is something that's a that's a win that
could that could.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Definitely affect the outcome of this game for sure. Josh
Shimmits their right tackles on the injury report as well
or their left tackle, excuse me. So that means Jalen More,
their backup, is gonna be there. He's played well and
they paid them like a starter. But I think Josh
Shimmans is playing like a special football player. So there
is some injuries, some kind of moving pieces. This is
gonna sound crazy, but this offense to me, the stuff
that I watched, it is a horizontal offense. They want
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to run most definitely hard to run choices. They want
to run flats, they want to run screens, And so
part of me is like, let's play man coverage, let's
take away the r P O.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Are you not afraid of the legit speed on the outside.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
So when I watch Xavier Worthy from Worthy, when I
watched Taekwon Thordon, they're both four two guys. Yeah, they're
like they're track guys. And so when I see quarters
and you can speak to this Fred you got but
they put hands on them, and those guys don't fight
through contact.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
They're not gonna be good at that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So they do get kind of bogged down, they do
get kind of mired up, and they do. And the
thing is they're not taking they're not taking like shots
like every shot they take is Patrick Mahomes like buying time,
scrambling and.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
They running the second and third round. Yeah, then they
are punted that threat. Right.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
But with that being said, here go we were marching
up in there. You saw all the shots that people
taking on us. That's true in the game.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
In the game, that's just how it is. But I
guess what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Like, that's a great point, Tanna, But to me, it's
like I kind of want to be aggressive and just
say like.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I'm glad you're not the decoy and.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Don't let because I don't think. Okay, now that Rashid
Rice is back, yeah, he's the guy that can win
versus man.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Man, he could beat anybody inside eyes.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
So that's the thing that makes me a little bit
of how did.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
He run his first game?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Because I know he ran good highlights, but I just
know he wouldn't do he have his gear if.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
He's got fast, but it's the shorter the short area.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, he does that well, I know he does that well.
I saw him fight off of the move. Yeah, buddy,
his face. Imagine he's still scored. So I'm like, when
when you're doing that, you're strong. So he ain't having
no problem, No, he have no problem.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But so I guess is that a crazy thing to say? Fred,
Like they're fast the perimeter, but they don't run routes. Well,
like I say, obviously, Rashid Weiss is a different animal.
Kelsey is not what he was. He's a great zone
to receiver. Yeah, and like you see that so I'm like,
why do we want to give him what they want?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So you want my mother?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
I was one that dude, can we can we do
something that we haven't done with you know, because like
I don't know if we run now Now I don't
watch our defense as much, and especially when I'm watching
the film, I'm not looking at the.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Coverages as well. But can we give a form of
cover six?
Speaker 5 (29:02):
And you know what I mean, Like you know, I'm
two on one side for on the other side, you know,
press the cover of the guy who we think that's
gonna stretch the field, which is worthy and when he
on the field, when you get see Thornton on the field,
maybe him too. But but try to be disruptive to
those guys because I feel like if we if we
play that kind of defense where I'm gonna press the
hell out of these guys on the outside and I'm
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gonna send somebody now give it gives you know, Patter
is a magical, He's a magician. He finds the way
to get out of it. But you you slow things
down for those guys who we know that looking for
a track meet. Now he has to go to somebody else.
Now he has to get out of danger and do something,
and that gives us time to try to bottle them up.
So I'm just you know, I'm just asking us questions
because you ask the question of how we stop them,
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and I'm sending in my head is like, what have
you seen that we've done already this year that you
want to see again for us to slow them down.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
What I would love to see is when Joe Jeter
comes in with a base game plan. I think back
to the Chargers game, or I think back to the
Raiders game or the New York Times. He come with
a base planned Yeah, and then his change up pitches
so like and against the chargeship was this inverted cover too?
Justin Hubber goes, oh, I don't know what that is,
holds it for a second to get a sack. Yeah,
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same thing actually versus Dallas, Like we had two sacks
in that game, should have three. It was all versus quarters.
We showed a lot of quarters this year, but run quarters.
He goes, oh, what is that sack?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So when Joe Wood has the change up pitches lined up, well,
I think that's that to me is going to be key.
It's like going with what you want to do, which
if I was a defensive coordinator, like it'd be like
man coverage, fire zone or of dog pressures, like bring
that extra guy to handle Patrick Mahomes. And then I
need to have a great changeup that looks like man
but it's going to be zoned, you know what I'm saying. Like,
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that's where I think.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You play a West Coast offense, which and to Reid
is true to the West Coast, but it's a vertical
West Coast.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think he runs.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You have to win first down, they offense do not
get to move and if they lose first down, if
they lose first down, they get off track.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I actually thought about you last night because you know
you're always like two man. Yeah, I felt like this
is a great two man game, even with Paddy running
a little bit so because of because of how horizontal
the offense is. Yeah, I want to see if we
could keep it tight. Yeah, and again like with Patrick Mahomes,
you got to deal with it like he's scrambled more
this year than he has any like in the last
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So I agree with what you're saying, but it like
something like that where we can get a little bit
of a ceiling.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You can steal some plays.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, right, And I don't know. And that's that's
why this is so challenging because there's really not like
a great solution. But it goes back to what we're
talking about, where it's just like you're gonna they're gonna
get theirs right, they're gonna find their points. Yeah, but
in those critical moments where it's third and eight.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Can you win? Can we win? Can you win? And
that's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I say, it's just so paramount that we win first down.
If you can make them second and loan, it makes
West Coast offenses get out of the identity.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
The identity is to move the ball quick fast and
then a.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Hurry right, sicken and loans kill a wist Coast outfits
to make them go into only survival mode. When you
get them into survival mode, now they're a different offense.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
And I think the main thing we talked about in
the Dallas game, I think a lot of that applies
and carries over because of how good the Dallas offense
was is we got to play complimentary football. I know,
we want to put a lot of otis on the
defense to stop them. Yeah, but if the offense can
possess play ball control, it's not even any ball control.
Just like strict drives, ye get first down.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
We need those twelve thirteen, fourteen play drives. That makes
Patty Mahomes watch the game, that takes out, that takes
the timing off, that does everything, And can't special teams
get a turnover, can't space teams make a good return.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
We need something to shorten the field for the offense.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Like the one thing about it, When the offense has
a short field, they usually scored. I don't care if
it's three, I don't care if it's six, they usually score.
Can we play that company? Minry football? Defensively, a special
team and offense.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
We just need some players to be made. I think
that's one of the things that I've seen that we had.
We got a lack of this year. Offensively, I mean
went in doubt, somebody made a play. Yeah, third down,
we need to play made somebody, you know, And that's
defensive offense, especially offensively. I mean, I ain't never seen
an offense look like we've we've been looking on third down.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I'm like, I'm sitting there with.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
My fingers crossed, like wh're gonna make a play and
maybe it's Robbie chosen Robbie. Robbie such a surprised every
you know what I mean, offensively, Robbie shold that showed
me last week day. Right, man, throw him to the ball,
because right now he seemed hungry. He seems like he
got a point to prove, and that's what he's been
that dude before.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Bingo.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Give him a chance, because when you have those opportunities,
they slim to none, Bro, and you have to go
out there and rise when the opportunity come. Like you know,
That's why I say, that's one of the things that
I felt like as a third as a guy coming
in on third down in year twelve, in twenty twelve
when we was playing and and you know, like this
is my only shot.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I was.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
I couldn't wait to third down because I'm lazy for
I'm like, give me, give me that matchup I'm looking for.
And that time my team I was gonna get it
because you have to pee on that side. And they
was trying to make sure they double him or do
something different with him, and I'm in the inside and
they think eighty nine ain't eighty nine no more. Yeah gotcha, Yeah,
got you. So I want to see one of these
guys take advantage of his opportunity. Like I said, it's
a hell of opportunity right now, go beat somebody. Beat somebody,
(34:19):
be that man on tape last week. The coach can say, oh,
he beat this guy every time we going at him
this week, you know what I mean. Somebody got to
make a play.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
And so with that complimentary football, I think there's a
lot of challenges on the defensive side that they have
to contend with. Like you got Chris Jones, those linebackers
are really good both.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That defense is still top top one of the top
defenses in lead.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Really like you like watch brilliant watching the clips like
they're to Fred's point, they are crazy Wall coach runfits
are good, They're really disciplined. Their third down stuff is awesome.
So like it's going to be a challenge. But so
it comes down to like how does Cliff scheme up
points here? And so I think the thing that again
i'd personally like to see is like, can we get
back to some of these looks where we've got a.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Run called We've got a pre Snapp kind of screen
on here?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, because like usually like last week versus Dallas, are
bringing all this Nickels strong safety pressure, like you just
just that out to the receiver, they stop running. That
pressure makes it easier for the offensive line get it
to the slot quick. For whatever reason, we got away
from that. Can we get back some of that the
hurry up stuff. Let's simplify the calls and simplify what
they're going to do, and again that leads to fast
three and outs. It can be kind of scary, but
that's like what you're major in, so it's leading to
(35:25):
our superpower.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Can we major in tempo?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
If we major in tempo, the best way to stop
a good defense is to tire them the hell out
and we get back. This's what really made gave us
an edge on the offense with did tempo? That tempo
makes you as a defense check to your chicks. If
we know your chicks about the third.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Quarter, we know what I'd like to see two And
I feel like this is something that's I don't know,
maybe because like I say, I always lean the logan
when it comes to these questions like this. What's noticeable
to me if you don't have a guy that did
something well offensively for us, then we don't run that
kind of offense no more. We changed like so, so
what I'm trying to say is, remember how Debo will
come in motion at nauseum running his love fake you're
(36:07):
running again, and then he might get it this time
when all officers I played in. Even if you have
a guy that's primarily gonna be doing that, you had
a second guy that rant them same reps. So if
he's not in the game or he can't do it,
ident we gonna still have this identity because now we
go away from it, then we're not getting the defense
what they want.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You gotta some time. You gotta love these people to sleep,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Show them something that they've seen me for Oh we
got something else, de boat out here, but they still
doing that, you know what I mean. So when I
don't see some of the things that we've done with
other guys, it bothered me because I'm like, damn, see,
we're not We're not being us. Don't get me wrong,
I understand that Cliff and all the other old season
this league has a gang of stuff in these bags,
so they can always pull out different plays, and certain
(36:48):
plays don't work you know, on and on and on
to different different weeks. Different weeks brings different ideas and
different plays. But I would love to see some of
those guys that we have with the same skill set. Yeah,
the guy to say I can do this, you know
what I mean, Let me do this, you know, let
me be the guy. Maybe maybe we have twenty two
in a game now as that Debo guy, because all
(37:09):
you do is being a running back. Yeah, and put
another running back in a game and say, okay, we've
fins showed him something that we showed them with Debo.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Now with the young fella.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, you know what I mean, that's something that we
it's hard to like speculate on because we don't.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Know, That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that we should.
I would love to see it learning and how Jalen's learning.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
They were both young players, but it it did feel
like the tennis point like in their twelve Like one
of the ways they hit it was with Debo's kind
of orbiting the flomation. Yeah, now it was a little
bit more stagnant. That's not really who they've been. So
can they get back to kind of some of that
stuff that they were successful with earlier in the year,
and again, like Tennis said, I've been super impressed with
Cliffs since he's gotten here. The whole offensive staff. None,
(37:46):
it's just about like getting it. That's the other thing
is like going on long drives. Let you get into
that bag a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It does. I feel like they're just screened some things
together and we got that three.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Like I think about the Giants game or when Marcus
played I guess that was against Las Vegas when they
they hurry up to like an unusual formation and then
they had a gash. You know, like they haven't got
into that because the offense has been a little locks
of the fluidity of it. So I think that's really
interesting to kind of see to think about something I'm
really exciting to watch is how Cliff handles at how
(38:15):
Joe what handles the defense. I think the other thing,
too real quick on this is like Marcus mariotas slash
Shade Daniels versus the receivers. You know, like how hard
is it for them to build that chemistry? And you've
alluded to it a little bit. There's been guys that
have stepped up, but it's like I think that's another thing,
like the chemistry, the detail with new people.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I would say, how can you get chemistry when the
receiver hurt and the quarterback gets hurt.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
We don't practice together. We play together, but we don't
like practice is everything?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I know?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Allen iverson then drop them turd on practice, But timing
wide receivers, I can only get time by throwing you
the ball over and over again.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
But I say this, man because being a guy that
had been in those shoes playing times, I've been in
a game where I didn't catch a pass from a
guy he had to try it out there because somebody
got hurt at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So when you at this level, people.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Ain't caring about how much time you got with him.
You gotta make the play. He knows where the ball
need to go. You know where you need to be
at make a play, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, So obviously interesting, so obviously really interesting kind of
dynamic this week against a really good opponent. Jason has
something to set up here. I don't really know what's
going on here. Who's going to come out help us
out with it? But it's player A has twenty three receptions.
Two hundred and twenty nine yards with four touchdowns. Player
B has twenty three or thirty two receptions for three
(39:42):
hundred and seventy five yards and two touchdowns. And we're
supposed to guess who those players are. And I have
no idea, Jason, So either one of those I thought
you want to go with your position the time. Yeah,
So I was gonna say maybe Zach Ertz and Travis Kelcey. Yeah,
but Jason kind of gave me like a rise smile, like,
no way, it's that maybe.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
No, he's trying to throw you. So can I ask
this question? Are these guys on either team?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Which team are them on?
Speaker 5 (40:07):
On?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, we're going with the ing I'm gonna go with
the tight ends. Oh it's easy. Got four touchdowns, Yeah,
it's got four touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
It's funny when you watch them though, like they are
playing real similar ball right now.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
No, No, they're old, dirty old men out there running routes.
Ain't a dirty old man old men at their running route.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
And you know what, the one thing I can say
about both of them, because they skill set was never
based off speed.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Ye, they're aging will.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yeah, because they use their brain. I mean They're smart.
They know how to get into the zone. They know
how to beat, beat, beat the man in front of him,
and if it's not dead, they find a way.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
They got some teas about them. They they just understand
how to separate and how to get open.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
You know, I look at zach Ertz, you know, being
that he's here with us, and I get a chance
to watch them, man, and I'm like, I think the
world of them because I know what it feels like
when I see that.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
To be a dirty little run he got. I know
what it feels like.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
I've been there and to get open with that, Bro,
you got something, you got something big, you know what
I mean. Yeah, I mean I broke because I've been there.
Like I tell you my last few years, Bro, how
that thing.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Was on bone on bone.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I used to have to just get it together. Yeah,
but you couldn't tell I get out there, come gain time.
I'm sixty minutes. I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
But during the week, boy, you heard that thing was
singing and mean singing, like singing the opera.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
So I love it, man.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
I love the fact that he's able to still go
out there and be dominant.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Just at this age, at this you know, at this
point of his career, and both of those guys, Man,
you just get those guys a chance. Like you know,
when you have guys like that on your team, it
just make everything else better. And that's why you see
Pat Mahomes have so much. I guess you can say, uh,
success with the other guys because you gotta check for
you know, eighty seven, you gotta make you got to
(42:10):
see where he's at safe and you're going to give
him so much attention at times and the other guys
get those those I guess you can say opportunities that
the normal see what won't get if you didn't have
a guy like that on your side.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, so he's been a guy I think they could
probably lean on for sure. All Right.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
So that's kind of our Kansas City preview. A lot
a lot of work to do there on both sides
of the football, but it all comes down to assignment, alignment, technique, execution.
I'm gonna throw finish in there. They got to play
a five five prong game there and do a good
job with that. Yeah, but we gotta pay some bills, right,
So let's get to these am.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I doing the West Virginia. Am I doing the guy?
If you know the West Virginia tanna? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
I put some put that set and swag on, but
let's go I do got. How do you feel when
you switch to Geico and save on your car insurance?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's like finding that parking spot and on a busy
outdoor cafe where you are meeting some of your old
friends from college, and you about the parallel park and
that old, soo tight spot, and then everyone in the
cafe stops to watch, and you nail it.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Never did in one try.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Like the parallel parking baller, you are nobody clapped, but
you know they really want to yep.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Switching and saving with Goico feels just.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Like that Let's get more with guy cuts A funny
like that no no, no, because it sends you into
a place all us been parallel parking before, wondering who
watching me?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Watching me?
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I don't worry about that.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
I just be It's just me and that wheel and
that damn parking spot. Pushing the button now, Mom, I
can't trust the rowbot. I do at times most of
the time to work every day by myself. Right, look,
I don't like. But when I am driving, trust me,
(44:02):
there's two things I could do that you will never
know about me. I can swim and I can drive
better than better than a lot of you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
So well, I put that out there. Why do you
think so you can swim?
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Well, they say that people can't swim, but I'm not
just saying because when you look at when you look
at guys that's that's from around water, they usually can't swim. Yeah,
there's a lot of guys that you want you believe
like I got friends that you be like, Bro, you
grew up here with me, and you can't swim. Listen,
a lot of dudes can't swim, being from Florida or
being from like you should, you should be able to swim.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
I got a gill right here, I can listen. I
can go hit something he got.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
So you want them things that's coming out of space
that you already here, you already here.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I can get under that water and I can live.
I can here, got.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
All right, team listen enough countdowns for the Ultimate Fall
Showdown in West Virginia, switching jerseys from gold from green
to gold. Ready to light up the hill size if
you want the best seat in the house for the
end of the season. Spectacler, it's time to hit the
(45:18):
country roads. Make your move to West Virginia. Seriously, don't
drop the ball on this one, West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
That was pretty good. It was Jesus.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Okay, So now it's time for hell yeah, hell now,
and it's brought to you by the US Army.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Be tested, but not just on paper. Be strong and
more than just muscle.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Be courageous and supported by a mighty team.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Be all you can be. Visit go Army dot com
to learn more. All right, I was going to the
Army if I didn't make it any football. You say
that every time we leave it. I'm tying through his nostrils.
Big private schmooth is in. Yeah I was. It wasn't
the Army. I was going to be a Navy seal.
(46:16):
You do only know what he wanted to be steal.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
All right, Hey, we got we got a deadline, we
got someone coming in here after we got hurry up,
so okay, hell yeah, hell no, Just Washington score thirty points.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
If we're gonna win the game, were gonna need thirty
all right, hell yes, going to get the grain?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Hell no, hell No, I'm kind of hell not, because
I don't know. If you need thirty to beat Kansas City.
You gotta make that plight you gotta make. You gotta
make that thing one knows.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
To put up thirty against We got to clicking at
one point.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Yeah, but we got to but we got to win
more than anything. But if anything, we don't have to
do it. It's going thirty points. You got to be efficient.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
If we invite the run. Yeah, we possessed the football.
We're gonna make the game. You lose possessions, right, That's
kind of what I think it's gonna be. So you're
saying twenty four twenty, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
If they get that, if they if they had that
extra possession, Yeah, then we're talking.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
We're talking thirty eighteen, twenty four seventeen. Yeah, I'm gonna
go great against y'all.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Got no Yeah, but I like I like the confidence,
Fred because I think like you, I agree, I gotta
got hit all right?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Uh hell yah, hell no.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Does Washington win the turnover battle?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
It's the time. It's the time.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I defense stand up for Show me who you Trey
Amos get your first pick on National TV Monday Night,
kwalm mort get everybody off your back, reach Homie, I
make that plate, Frank and louvu when.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah, let's go friend, all right, I'm ready? Yeah, hell yeah.
I was gonna say hell now, but I'm gonna play.
Don't play right now. I might want to see it
all right.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Just reminder, you're brought to you by the US Army.
They say your work defines who you are. Monday through Friday,
nine to five, you're clocking in. But what happens on
the what happens to your time? You could take it easy,
or you could use that time to get better. In
the US Army Army we think differently. Your time should
be used to improve the skills you do have to
learn some you don't to push yourself in new ways,
(48:14):
because it's those days that truly define who you are.
That's how you make progress, That's how you make impact
on the world around you. It's your time. How you
spend it is up to you. It's your time. The
US Army Reserve. Yeah, I'm juiced up after Fred, Let's
(48:35):
get this last Hell yeah, hell no, it's Is there
a way Washington wins this game?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Hell yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Helia's three ways out physibly defensively best.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Team yep together, Dude that Mike drops boom. That's going
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Speaker 2 (48:58):
That's it, don't you all mean?
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