Haters Gonna Hate + LA Chargers Preview | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL

The crew fight off all the HATERS talking some nonsense. Then, they discuss how to stop Justin Herbert and the Chargers as the Commanders get ready to head out to LA. Finally, it's 'Hail Yeah or Hail Naw.'     Get Your Commanders Tickets Here: https://bit.ly/3SpwKU3     Hosts: Logan Paulsen, Santana Moss, Fred Smoot     Producer: Jason Johnson     The views and opinions expressed by our analysts and/or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's episode of the Command Center Podcast. There's a
lot of hate. We got hater Jason. We get all
the hate out. Hopefully we help everybody kind of feel
a bit better.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, that's our job.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we got the Chargers preview. We talked about the injuries,
we talked about their playmakers, and we talked about that man,
Justin Herbert Man. He is a ball way and good
ball for sure. We got hell yeah, hell now it
all starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast.

(00:31):
I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss.
Is that the same color as the jerseys the Miami
Dolphins were last night? They had some crazy jerseys.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The jersey was fresh the black, the black. I like him.
You didn't like them?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I mean, all right, they remind me of the Houston
jerseys when they go dark blue.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think they fresh. They were freshman.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
They're sweet, but didn't have like it had an orange
trim on it.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
No, had almost trem with the baby blu.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah yeah, just checking out the Marlin. Yeah all right,
just reminder we're in the big big Bear AI Command
Center studio and gotta pay bills, right if you are
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Speaker 1 (01:42):
You ever get tripped out by that? By you? I
get tripped out by QR codes every once in a while,
I feel like I'm living in the future.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I get tripped outcause I don't know if it we ow,
if it's fraud. That is what the trip might be
trying to get me. So, when you're at like a
parking meter or something, the thanks scary I just got
I just got a tech message saying that I didn't pay.
I didn't pay a parking meter in d C. And
I knew of lately, I've been driving to DC for

(02:08):
my Wednesday night show and I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Maybe I haven't.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
And then the lady tell me there that the night
she saw me paying for it. She's like, it's free,
It's free the time you come. I'm like this at
the age, I'm like, the text message scared me, but
I didn't click on it. Yeah, so I just said
I will pay next time, my goal just in case
that text message was telling me that I haven't been paying.
She was like, nah, somebody know you've been coming, and
they that's fraud.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Thanks. Scary.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, so but it is cool though, Like I feel like,
you remember that show, the movie in Minority Report, we were
like scanning your face and stuff. I feel like sometimes
when I turn my phone on, I'm like, oh wow, Yeah,
it's like a science fiction movie.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
We're in the future. Listen, we dirty old men.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
When when you used to use payphon and now you're
scanning QR cold. It's a different world are we living in.
We gotta adjust, fellas, we gotta adjust.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, we do have to adjust. And with that adjustment,
we have to talk about up all too. Yeah, you know,
talk about this this Atlanta game.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I lost the Divorce Bowl's wife texts me, really, that'd
be funny if she did send me up uh really
like it wasn't a faucon.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I was like, that, ain't even a facon.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
She sent me like an eagle and all these emojis,
and now like you finally got one. I've been winning
the Divorce Bowl for like four consecutive years.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
It was about time.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
So we're gonna bring in a very special guest to
handle this, and hater Jason. It's been a while since
been on the show, but I think it's perfect for
this because I'm feeling a lot of a lot of hate,
a lot of anxiety, and hater Jason is the guy
that just embodies all of that.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I just didn't know Pirates was haters.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I knew they stole stuff, but I just did not
know they was automatically a hater full of hate?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Today, why is.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
It because he doesn't Yeah, I'm just saying, Captain Jack Sparrow,
we we got Jason, hater Jason.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
This is not is not how Jason normally.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Is no.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
What we got.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm full of hate, full of hate.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I can tell what a loss.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
And you know what, there are a lot of reasons
for it. I think I'm gonna talk to you about him.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
The first one is Bobby Wagner. Get him off the field.
He can't cover anymore. It's hurting us.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Is no hater. Jason's here right now? Can producer Jason
come back for a second?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, producer?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is that real? People saying that?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
For Yeah, that's post show And I had to fight
him off Old Yeller.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I said, first of all, let me tell you some
about Oh Yellow Jackie what I told you like. Don't
y'all co call my show hate? No Old Yeller? Listen
to me.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Oh Yeller is one of the best linebackers to able
to play in this generation.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
He has forty two tackles one missed tackle. All right.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Sometimes people that's a crazy They see something and they
think they know the whole story, Like fans come down.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think, what y'all.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Forgetting is this voyage of this new GM, new head coach,
new team started one year ago. And I think because
we succeeded so fast, so early, that they still forgetting
that we're building. We're still building, Jeff cot we were
one game from the Super Bowl, don't meaning the building
processes through and if you think it's anybody on this

(05:35):
roster that you're gonna put in besides old Yeller.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point, Like like who.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Are you gonna put in? It's gonna do a better job.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So can I say something that was like I feel
stoke now, I'm like motivated that. Fred. You could talk man,
you can talk about anything, but I will. I will
say this too. I think there is some context here,
some football contexts. It needs to be applied. So the
linebackers are kind of like the running backs of the offense.
And what I mean by that is they are they
are covering better athletes all the time. Running backs for

(06:05):
better athletes. Tight Ends are better athletes, thought receivers of
better athletes. So they are the weakest part of the
coverage unit, regardless of what team you're on. Like Rokwan Smith,
who everyone thinks is a really good linebacker's playing well,
Like prior to him getting hurt up in Baltimore, he
had some disastrous coverage. Right, It's because he's got a
fit a run against the lineman who weighs one hundred
pounds more than him, and he's got a cover a

(06:27):
guy who's way faster than way more at three. So
what I was going to say is like the defense
has to insulate in that group, right, So like when
I like, for example, you remember this Kyle Shannon used
to talk about, like how do we take advantage of
the linebackers in a defense? Like that's what every offense
is trying to do, and the defense is trying to
mitigate or manage the exposure of the linebacker. And so
people see one really one rep because I don't remember

(06:49):
Bobby having like.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
A terrible office caught us in a position that we
didn't want to be.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm gonna want to ask Fred and ask you both.
Is so we all we've all been here, right, there's
like in that instultane right where it's like, hey, we
want to run this play versus this look, and we're
gonna try to make that happen. I felt like when
I like, that's Mesh, yeah, and you're picking for the back,
like that's you call that play in to be a
man coverage. Yes, So when you get five down man

(07:20):
to man coverage, I'm not sure there is a linebacker
in the.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
NFL the cold chick beja yeah that on that play
on this play must burn them all.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I don't care if you even fast and you athletic,
you're getting picked. The way that he came about getting
out of there scotch free like that is because they
designed it to make you have to run through a
bunch of garbage or trash. Yes, and then now boom,
you know what I mean, do all that and also
make this play.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's impossible.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
And I think one of the things that you know,
folks for the realizing and I understand it. You know,
they sent home and they feel like what they say
is go. I'm not saying it's not any fan y'all
fans for a reason. We love you being fanatics. We
love you, love the support, but just be easy, because
you could be that same guy if we had the
chance to go to your job and see you didn't
found that paper right, well, you didn't come on time,

(08:09):
and we say that you need to be fired or
you need to be cut because of that reason. Now
how would you feel. So I feel like, don't look
at one little, one little piece of the game and
says this is the reason why he shouldn't be out there,
because if you really look at it, I mean, he's
made it every other play.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And so I will say like obviously, like it was
a small piece, this one play, but it was a
big result. I think that's why I use you to
feel that. And again, like Bobby's gonna tell you he
probably should have played over the top. There seems he
could have done to manage it. But what I'm saying
is like, even if he plays that, well, it's probably
a twenty yard.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
They're still.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Fred Warner. It's probably a twenty yard. Like, it's just
the setup of the play. It's designed to beat that
coverage design in a bad spot. So Bobby, I'm sure
if he was in here and be like, I gotta
make it right. But as people who sit back and
I watch scheme understand scheme like, he's not like that
is the one that's the offensive play.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
We wanted that, and that's the perfect call for the Faucons.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I want to catch them and this man and man,
and when we catch him and this man and man,
this is the play we want to go to.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
They went to it. They caught us in it.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Man. The circumstances that happens. Every coverage, no matter what
it is, has a weakness. It ain't no perfect coverage
to stop our offense. It's only do we beat our
man and man up vices like do you beat this guy?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And do I win? Mind chat? Like this is how
it is.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Why not just take Bobby out on passing situations?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Because then who gonna call the plays? Who gonna be
the general, who gonna do the chicks? Who gonna put
us in the right coverage? Who gonna be the guy
that plugged in case they run the draw play? What
you mean?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
And that was on first down? So I want Bobby
in on first time?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And who are we gonna put in if I'm taking
old Yeller out?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, And then we talked to this on the preview show,
like one of the toughest matchups in the league is
if you have a running back the can catch football,
like think about Christian McCaffrey, Like, yeah, they draw good
coverage matchups, and so like, just just work this drill
with me. Right, Let's say we want to cover them
in the backfield. Let's say we want to put Mike
Sanders on him. Now, Mike sandersol has to fit a
run from the middle linebacker spot. Okay, So let's say

(10:13):
we put them on the perimeter, right, and we want
a linebacker, like we take a we put the nickel
on the on the running back, right, Yeah, then the
linebacker has to cover Kyle Pitts or receiver like just
that's the problem of having a good pass catching back,
and there are ways to manage it. And I think overall,
outside of one explosive play is managed fairly effective.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
With seventy five yours rush as good as he rushed about.
Oh yellow was the reason he only had seventy five
rush one of.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
The reasons, Yeah, one of the reasons. Yeah, So I
think it's this is a This is one of those
things that's really complicated to solve generally, and it feels
unfair to put it all on Bobby. Yeah what we
got Ah.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
We're too old. And Marshawn Lattimore is one of those
old heads. Need to get out of here, put them on.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
The benchirst of all, a life of a Conner is
a dashedarly life. You love us one day, you hate
us the next you say, y'all got burned. You don't
even know what coverage I was in. I'm just the
closest man here. You don't understand circumstances. A guy ran
a fifteen yard out and up on me. And you
wonder why I got beat. Well, maybe if they didn't

(11:20):
have five seconds to throw and run this route, I
wouldn't have got beat.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's ay.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
I say this, and I say this as a former
corner That's why I'm glad young guys don't listen to
sports talker. I'm glad young guys don't watch ESPN because
if you listen to what people really got to say.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
About you, you might start to believe some other doom.
I mean, I look at it like this, and I'm
one of those guys. You know, we talked about the
cornerback position so much since since we've been doing these shows.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
These guys are far from what we used to be.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, and I feel that a lot of more is
in a situation now where they want them to be perfect.
You know, we know a lot of more of old
when he was in New Orleans in his prime, and
he brought a little bit of that last year, but
wasn't healthy, and so that already put a bad taste
in the fans mouth. So now fast forward to this
year when things are getting shaky at times because you've
only seen a game or two where he has a

(12:15):
situation where he got beat but a cornerback gets beat.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
A diamond duck. I mean, it's don't happen.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
But I feel like this is he's that escapegoat that
we're saying that, hey, we got rid of this guy
for you to be that much more special, and you're
showing us some of the same thing.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
The other guy who we got rid of used to do.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
So hey, I understand, like I said before, fans are
going to say what they say.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I don't feel like personally let them more is playing that.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I'm glad you brought that up because, like I think
people are going to compare him to Benjamin Saint just or.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I had I had a person college and call him
Marshall and sat Juice.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Let me tell you something, two different people.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
So people say, well, why, And I understand because like
when you see the yards, he's giving up, like he's
not playing well. And I'm sure Marshall would say he's
got to play better, no doubt about it. But when
I watch him, there was times where I'd watch Benjamin
sat shust I'm like he's a little out of his depth,
like he's nervous, he's lost. Yeah, he's not playing the
ball well. And when I watched marshawn. I don't feel
any of that. Playing football, and you're gonna make happen.

(13:15):
You're gonna make mistakes, you're drawing number one receivers like
that's gonna happen. So i'd say, like he'd be the
first to tell you, I got to make more plays,
because everyone wants to make more plays. But when you
look at it, I'm not saying like he's not playing.
It's like he's playing the ball well, he's physical, he's
running well. I think he's reading concepts well. It's just
some of it's a little bit of a of the
luck of the.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Draw, and some of it just come when the team
is hot. Day hot.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
They was hot, Yeah, they was on fire and they
couldn't miss. Just zero wounded animal. Don't listen, man, everybody
they talked about South Garden. It's one of the top corners.
I've been watching him get whooped up and down the
field this year. That's the life of a corner. One
good year, one good game, one good play, one bad play.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's what we do.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I say one things too, we said going into this,
going into that line of game that get pinnings off
his spot, don't get him like he's not.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
He doesn't he doesn't handle pressure.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, and when we didn't do that out the gate, man,
this dude was bombs with a bad so letting it go.
It's just like you know, you in the situation as
a corner. I've seen y'all guys in the situation all
the time. I told you'll watched west Wealker run ten
routes on the hall and I was sitting back that
didn't run and run the field and tackling myself. It's
just want to situate if you don't apply to pressure
that quarterback to sit back then and do what.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
He wants when he doing this as much of time
as he wants. It's a rap for you as a dB.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean, just go back if you got ten
minutes and go watch that out and up and watch Pennix.
Just reset pump the whole thing. It's just way too long.
And again that's I think that's where you see like
the semi connective effort man, Yeah, the collective effort, the
collective nature of football. Yeah, sure, for sure, hater do
is that you still got a lot of hater.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
No, I got so much hate. No, man is an
island I got so much hate. Yeah, we're two and
two unacceptable. We're a bad team. We're a bad team.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
We're gonna miss the playoff seasons lost, Why do we
even try anymore?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
So someone told me this, Someone brought this up to me,
like I was in the supermarket, brought up to me
and like you're trying to be nice and just kind
of and so I was like, if you're on the team,
you think about the season in quarters, right, five hundred,
second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter, this is the first.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Quarterurth quarter with five hundred.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, it's zero zero right at zero zero, we have
the rest of the we have three more quarters to
get this right. And so like was it perfect? Yeah,
you want to win every game.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
But well we went five hundred with a backup quarterback. Like,
look at the contexts we missed out. First of all,
if you take JD five off any team in the NFL,
you just got batter.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
You just got worse.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
You don't get better when you lose a guy like that,
You lose your number one receiver. But you go on
the roll, you play a team that just got dushed
it back against the wall. They that five the wide
receiver coach they're looking for answers. You go play to
them and you give them a hell of a damn game.
It ain't like we just went in there and folded.
You get him a hell of a damn game. If
you tell me I got my backup quarterback playing two

(16:07):
games and I go five hundred in them two games,
I'm gonna take that any time.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
And not only that, I think when you look at
that game and you look at the big picture, we
was one for eight on third down, you're not converting
the ball, you're not staying ahead of the chain. It
was that time we made a big play and then
it was a penalty that got us right back to
where we was not trying to be at. So if
you would have told me that we lost that game
by seven after all that that displayed offensively and defensively,

(16:34):
especially what they was doing offense into our defense, there's
no way we should even have been in that game
we missed.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
That just shows you.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
That just shows you that, Yeah, you can honestly say, yeah,
give your hats off to the Falcons because they went
out there and did they got the job done.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
They did they had to do.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
But also look at yourself, like you let them off
the hook because you're a better team than that, and
you and you slow poked around and allowed them to
feel like, you know what, we can do this, and
they did it.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
And that's what I saw.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I was a guy that sat there and say this,
don't look this, don't look right. You know, we're not
looking like the team that I just saw last week
that was flying around getting.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
At to you know, playing with ja hand five.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
So I just feel like as a team, man, no,
you you you as good as that performance that day,
and we just didn't show up that day. We didn't
show up in enough time. We came out the second
half and tried to play a lot lot better. Yeah,
But to me, I think first half is where we
lost that game.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
And I think just even like stepping back from the
Atlanta game and looking bigger picture, like we're two and two,
like the Baltimore Ravens are right now, Like the sky
just feels like it's falling there. Yeah. I think back
to the playoff run we made in twenty twelve ten
we were three and six. Yeah, we were bad. We
were talking about you know, trading people at the deadline,

(17:44):
doing the whole thing and then we figured it out
and went on a seven game one sugar Like, there's
so much football left to go here, right, look at
the Chargers, man, like they were the best, one of
the best teams.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
In football, and the Giants just handed it.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
They got a bunch of injuries, and again there's some
adversity there, no doubt, but like they don't even look
like the same team.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
All right, let me let me be transparent with two
and two. One of the best quarterbacks in the league
is on that team.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Hurt.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Our number wide receiver hurt, our number one running back
hurt out for the season.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Our best block of tight end hurt.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I Uh, Jonathan Jones hurt, Dietrich Wise hurt safety hurt.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Say it was a big.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Big blow.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
And now, y'all people, I told y'all Will Harris was
a blessing when it came to tight ends. When Will
Harris comes out of the defense, tight ends gets off.
They're just what it is, hurt. So look at it
for what it is, not for what you want it
to be.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, And so I think it's just like it's just
I know these these like you're telling you said, like
they're the fans are awesome they're really emotional, but like
you got to think of it like long term. Here
a little bit, right, There's still so much football that
needs to be played. There's teams on this list that
we got right here. The Chiefs are two and two.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Are they a bad football team? No? They looked pretty
good the other night. Yeah, are two to one and one.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
They had put the Packers in the Super Bowl in
California already two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Are they a bad football team?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
No?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
No, there's a lot of football left to go, right,
and so like even last year, the twenty twenty four
Eagles were two and two to start. They won the
Super Bowl. Yes, and they had a bad loss. They
were what it was it they lost six to sixteen
to thirty three in Week four. Yeah, they so they
were kind of in a not feeling good, let's findass
in that first quarter. Yeah, and then they figured it out.

(19:29):
That's what especially with like there not being a ton
of preseason ball, like this is the time you had
to figure your team out and figure out what you're
good at and figure out and kind of navigate some
of these injuries.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
We are in the Michael Waves society. They won't it now.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
They want to know where are we going now, and
we can't tell them the directions now like we're figuring
it out.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
I think I think also too, when you look a
certain way one year at least, if you look that
way to year and the next year, they can they can. Honestly,
I guess you say or accept that they were like, Okay,
they still look the same. We just took it a
a lot of times. In these two defeats, we didn't
look the same. And that's and that's to me, that's

(20:09):
okay because that's what I'm talking about. It is week
to week game, the game like you have to have
that same kind of fire or mentality each week, and
that's unfortunately it doesn't work out there all the time.
But we set the tone last year and said this
is who we are, this is how we're gonna play,
this is how competitive we're gonna be. So when we
don't show up, I understand. That's why I'm on your

(20:31):
side right now, fans, I'm talking for you. I understand
where you're coming from. A hater, Jason, I want to
say it there, he goes, I understand where you're coming from.
But I think we made that bit so we had
to lay in it and as well as we had
to lay in and we got to go out there
and play better.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
The other thing I just want to bring up too,
it's like it's almost you better if they weren't as
good last year, Like it was like remember the Detroit Lions.
They were like they won two games, they won four games,
they won eight games, and then they were like good.
You know what I'm saying. They became good. It took
a three years. It's it's almost like that would have
been better just to set expectators that they did what
they did last year, but it would have been better
to expect well.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
We said that though we said that, oh this is
this is unsustainable.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, this is how you're gonna play.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Play.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I want to see it, you know what I mean.
And so I'm not tripping.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
I'm not tripping on the success from last year because
I appreciate finally having something that we can, you know,
hold our head up high foot and have a different
experience in this building.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
If we hadn't seen that in a long time.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
We hadn't even seen it when the years we play,
I mean, we had our runs, but we hadn't seen
Itthing like that like canib so now. But at the
same time, hey, don't shot away from that's who you are.
I'm looking forward for it too. I just feel like
when you're on the road and you played one way
and you did it twice. Yeah, we got to find
a way to kind of, you know, put that behind.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
We got to bring that energy. Energy, gotta do something.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
We're gonna shot this week. When we get shot, I mean,
think about it would be bad. I always thought like,
as a when we were playing, you get to just
answer those questions this week. Let's go to l A
and make and get that done. Hater, we are sure
we still got it.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I hate hater Jason.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
I don't like bringing them out. Producer Jason hates them.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I do fred I really the same person.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Well, hater Jason and producer Jason are the same to you.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
They check everything like hate. I'll check everybody. You're just
the one I have to bring up. You got the
most damn stuff. You're coming up with it.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Everybody like never heard of that. The ninety tackles thing
was a crazy bit. Was a crazy bit, but I always.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Forgot about that.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
I think about it, I'll be I'll be up at
the home with my kids. I'm like, yeah, said the look,
you should have went to the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
It yet, I was like, man, you were a baller.
I was like damn. I was like, bro, you a
one man. I told him kids last night they asked
me what was the best game you ever played? Him?

Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I was like, yeah, I played against Seattle one
year and I single handedly beat them myself.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I played all these living positions. Yeah, I got one
more thing.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
Just as producer Jason so Tanna mentioned something and if
I could tell a quick little story to kind of
like personalize what we were just talking about with all
the hater stuff with this team. When I was hired
here and a lot of the people that work behind
the camera were hired here, we were in a transition phase,
trying to like start from scratch, rebuild, and we got
a lot of comments off of like fire the audio guy,

(23:39):
fire this person, fire that person. We were just starting,
we were trying to figure things out. We didn't fire anybody.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
We all stayed.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
We saw what the problems were, we worked on it,
and we got better. And look at us now, guys,
let us now we have nine podcasts a week. We're
not firing any audio guys, we don't get those comments.
We're nominated for podcast awards, we're nominated for Emmys, And
I would put our content up against anybody's content, any
team in the league, and I would say, even national stuff,

(24:07):
what we do here, and it's like just you, it's
it's what the team. I think the team maybe as
the same mindset. I don't want to speak for them.
They see what the problems are. It's just we're gonna
fix it. It's not going to be a switch and
it's not going to be firing somebody. It's having the
people with the mindset to say we're going to fix
this and get better. If you have grinders like that,
you're gonna get there.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
You got so just calm down, what back to the
basis movies, just say, let cook.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
It's a whole new year and a lot of new players,
and then you got a lot of people and you
got a lot of people going down that we didn't have,
we didn't have to deal with last year.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
So I look at a lot of that stuff. I
don't look at just you know, the outcome of games.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
It's like, oh, it was just or that totality of
the of the situation is so much different. It's so
it's so new for so many other guys. Yeah, last
year they responded well out the gate, but then these
other guys might not be as the guys who were
in those spots last year. So give them time, give
them time to adapt, give them time to get acclimated,

(25:07):
and give them time to let everything mesh together.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I love that, and I love that. Jason. Thanks for
that story. And you know, fans, we're here for you,
so please keep leaving your comments. We appreciate it being
your with you haven't hated Jason. Come on, But in
the meantime, let's pay some bills fro.

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Speaker 1 (27:45):
That was excellent. That was excellent. All right, now let's
drive ourway into this LA Chargers preview. Okay, so this team.
It's really interesting watching the film, Yeah, because it kind
of goes in a chunk in the beginning of the season.
I'm like, just and Herbert unstoppable is the top five
quarterback in the NFL. Yes, he is, absolutely, he was
prince that was promised, right, I mean he's playing that way, yes,

(28:10):
And so like he'm I'm not I'm not being hyperball here,
Like that dude can touch anywhere on the football field
with the football. He can run he's big, he sticks
in the pocket, smart, like everything you want from the quarterback.
You know what Jim Harbour says, like I need to
get Justin Herbert in the Hall of Fame, like and
he said there, You're like, oh, I don't know, like
he was not. Like when you watch these you're like,
this dude is a baller. Yes, however some things have changed, right,

(28:34):
So you watch that Giants game and he's still dealing,
He's doing his darkness. Yeah, but he has a great
throw to Quentin Johnson where.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
He runs, Oh dude, it was someone the one he
got between the ConA and say yeah, filthy.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, we're gonna break that down on the comment center.
But Tanna's filthy throw. But he was also pressured after
Joe Walt's injury over his dropbacks. Yea, so that is
a absolutely cartoonish number. A good pressure rates like thirty
five forty percent. If you're over fifty percent, your offense

(29:07):
is like not a thing.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
No, no, that mean the flood gates are open. And
when Joe, first of all, this start with with Sean
Slade said they lost him, who is a top eighth
left tackle, Like I thought Joe I would damn the
number one.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Wait he was so what I'm saying like you're talking
like so Rashad Slater is in the same conversation. It's like,
you know, I mean still joined my lots like he's
in that kind of maybe a little bit lower, but
that kind of tear gouyah. And so you lose him
too for the season before the season start. Then you say, okay,
well we got Joe all Will moving to left tackle. Yeah,
Joe all gets banged up. And Joe all was for

(29:42):
a second year player.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yes, was balling, yes, so much about the mountain a
mountain only talking about how big the d was. There
you go again. It's just so consistent, the mountain of
a man.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Listen, no.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Mercy, hold that out now believe.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Going home, everyone thinks it's you.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
No, I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
No sound bite. Ken is the dude is ten is
the best.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
But everyone a while just he goes back to city
like he reverts back to Karoo city. He doesn't like
you tamp out.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
He waked up and he's like they were back every
now let's do it. Left for got.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Little kid. He just snaps back.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
So Joel was playing well, gets hurt. Rashawn Slater out
for the season, and then Makai Becton gets hurt. And
it literally at times where we're talking about a guy
Abdill Carter for the Giants, it's just like there's not
even a group of people in front of him. And
so to me, that's the storyline heading to this is
ken like, how can this coaching staff, Joe att Junior

(31:01):
create pressure with this backup group, because there are ways,
like you know, like this is the other thing. I'd
say that you do a great job reminding this every
week we see it on film. It's a bad deal.
They in the building know it's a bad deal.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
So what do they do to fix it?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
To manage a bad deal? Manager, right, because like so
for example, the Cowboys, like they played Green Bay and
I thought Michael Parsons was going to shred that group.
He wast They had the best protection plan. Yeah, you know,
Dak Prescott did a great job target protections. They had
to backship him wherever he was in the front. It
was a really good plan. So they know the Chargers know.

(31:37):
So how does Joe Witt Junior stay one step ahead
Fred and make sure that they've got a plan for
this offensive line?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
It gotta be plus one in every situation. You just
see it.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Once Joe went out their game, the Giant, cy Hill
and hot Water were going to get at him because
if we let him sit in his pocket. He's a surgeon.
He's a surgeon. And don't forget uh Keenan ke like
he's been reborn.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Great chemistry like Keenan Now and Johnston the other kid
who had Conke. I couldn't even pronounce the last name,
but all three of them can. They can give it
to you.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Speaking of Keenan Allen like I had to do a
cut up, so I had to watch all his targets.
He is he is. He talked about a guy who
understands his role, understands what it means to win on
third down like he is up.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
He'll remind me of how that role that I had
to take that third and twelve. He come in and
it's just like damn it. You'd be like, man, I
mean he's just open every time.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
He reminds a little bit of Zach. You know.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, he operates the same Like I'm not the best
I had to lead on the field, but mentally.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
I'm gonna get open like he understands. He ain't never
been fast. He always been that what he is right now,
you understand he's gonna beat you in the back.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
He'll mind me. His routes almost similar to Keenan mccardill. See.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
I played with Keeny McCardell, and I remember looking against Keenan.
Keenan like, man, I can't run. I'm gonna beat him
right here, I'm gonna beat him. And I'm like, he's
to watch Keenan like he ain't lying. He beating you
right there in a box. And by the time he
come off of that press, just give me alid man.
That's what I look at Keenan and he just he
beating people.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
You're a a point about ken You know what I'm
saying is between Keenan, Allen moving the chains, Johnston making
the big play, lamb M and Kunkin taking the top
off of it, you still need that offensive line to
get that done. So what do you do if you hobout?
All right, We're finna go to quick game. If I'm
a defensive coordinator, they're gonna go to quick game. We're
finna go to pressing and blitzing. Now we want the

(33:37):
ball out of his hands as quick as possible. I
want him to have to make a decision now. So
I don't know if that's gonna be louvu there plus one.
I don't know if it's gonna be all right. Well,
since Herbert can run, let's let's add speed to it
and send a safety. The question is how much are
we going to blitz and do we got the coverage
guys to handle it in the back.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
I'm glad you mentioned that because I was watching the
cut up up. I was watching the twenty two all
twenty two, and I saw the adjustment that they made
in the game. In game adjustments, I mean, like the
first couple of drives it didn't go as well, and
Herbert had a couple of picks too, So a lot
of all that stuff kind of played, you know, play
the role in how they had to do things. But
he saw Burns getting at them, Carter getting out there,

(34:20):
all those boys was getting there, getting those pressures in.
So he went to the quick game. He went to
trying to get the ball out quicker, just to slow
them down, because that's what he talked about the other night,
like if you make those adjustments, if you see you
getting beat the sleep. You got to say, all right,
well I gotta start putting my hands on somebody on
the outside to slow them down. So then now maybe
the people that's getting those rushes or trying to rush

(34:40):
and do those stunts, maybe they'll get home.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
May the main thing, that's the main thing of office
does when y'all know we're finna be blitz happy, scream draws,
y'all are finna try.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
To make us put sue ye hit you where you
came from.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Like, so if I'm the coordinate, I'm like, all right,
well this is gonna be their go too. I need
to take that away and force him to hold this
ball so we can get out to him.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, And I will say Justin Herbert is I think
he's he's like top in the NFL and long touchdown passes.
He's got five big time throws so he can hurch
you down the field. And I think to your point, Fred, like,
is there a way to that we can say aggressive
maybe offensively or defensively and keep them out of these
situations where he's really comfortable throwing the football. I will
say this, Jason is a great job with the stats

(35:22):
versus like, so no pressure situations. He's got eight touchdowns,
zero interceptions in twenty twenty four. Like he he if
he's comfortable, he's going to pick your part.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I urge it.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
The other thing I think we got to talk about
too is Amarin Hampton.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Oh he's running it. He running it well.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
He looks to part against the giants. Man, that was
a different, different dude. They got them like he like
he had that one run where it's like it was
a third and one. There's literally nowhere to go. He
runs the corner over, drags him with him. He's got
an explosive two explosive runs in this game. Like for
a big guy. I think he's like two hundred and
twenty five pounds. He moves, he can scoot me.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
He can move. And I say, he looks the part
getting off the bus. He looks like a running back.
God's gift to running back.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
How crazy is it that both rookie running backs last
week kind of came out and had big weeks, Like
I have to have a big week.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
And that's his phone. He threw the answer to gent
and he got especially.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Richardson right, it was your comparison.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
No no, I told y'all when I walked past Richardson.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
You know you said that, But that's what Bretenna is saying.
That's why he's.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
That's what he's what I'm saying. His office of line stinks,
all right, line ain't giving him.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Did you see that statistic?

Speaker 4 (36:44):
One hundred percent run out the catch, I mean run
after he getting after gett.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Got negative negative. It's like negative point eight, so almost
a full yard behind the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
His line stinks.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Could you imagine it was a statue that said one
hundred percent of the time he's he has more he's
getting hit after touching the ball in the backfield and
he's still damn Now he leading all those guys yards.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
You're not Trent Richardson. And he went back to his
Michael mind stint to straight up and he see it all.
You more it all. He's like, you see it all.
Let's put the music on. Put the music on behind him.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
He just like this. That's one of those funny things, right.
Coaches try to change the player and not have like
a really good.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
They do that to DB's all the time.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I want you to use this technique and you're like, no, man,
I'm kind of comfortable doing this my DB's I want
you to look happened.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
That happened to me as I was a rookie with
the Jets, and I ain't gonna say his name. I
ran a dig route, got open, I gave the D,
I spent the dB.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
He went them.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I told you, came back, caught the ball the o
c clip. Boy, you would have thought I dropped the ball,
didn't catch it with the timing was off.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I don't coach that. You gotta run straight line come back.
That's a dig all this kid him And so you
rewind a little bit. I remember in college I used
to do some route at the line of screaming. I
used to do this little get off and every receiver
tried to do it. And I remember Curtis Johnson, my
receiver coach, say let me let y'all know something.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
He showed me.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
He said, you see that, You see that, you see
that ball completed on time. Let me show y'all see
that too slow. Everybody can't through what's Aintendao. He's fast
enough to do that. He can make up for everything
else and come back so fast forward.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
To that play.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
I'm telling the coach, Well, coach, I can't run a
straight line with a guy sitting at the depth of
my getting my break.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I didn't get him off. I got to get him
off the spot, and I'm fast enough to do that.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
My receiver coach in college told me, as long as
I get back on time to catch the ball.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I can do that. I don't coach it.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Though I caught Jay. I taught Jerry Rice to catch.
Jerry Rice couldn't catch. When he came to me, he lies.
That's when I realized some bs going on his lead.
So I say all that to say this, man, Sometimes
coaches can really affect you if you get what they
I didn't accept it, and I went in that game
that same week, ran the same round against past thirteam

(39:18):
and win eight. And get what he told me on
the sideline. I don't coach that. He couldn't. He won't
even dabt me off. So that that me, know, you
just ignorant. Yeah, and you want to be You want
to be saying that you you taught me that me
instead of me doing a great job and moving to change.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
So that's what some coaches do, man, They kind of
they handicap you from be and you.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, no, I think that's you know, I've had a
bunch of experiences in my career where it's like I'm
you know, I'm I'm the undrafted, like low priority free
agent trying to make the team. So I'm trying to
do the technique and it doesn't fit you, it doesn't
work for me, you know, And so it's like identifying
that stuff's important. So let's talk about maybe how to
slow them down. I think the first thing is, like
you mentioned the weapons manet the skill spots. They're stacked
three receivers, Aronde Gatson, the tight end from from Syracuse. Dude,

(40:02):
he is doing some good. So they've got a bunch
of guys that can win one on ones, a bunch
of playmakers, but not like thread that offensive line. So
I'm saying, if your kin loaf, your pain.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
If we're from a scrint, it went from their priority
they scrint to their weakness.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
And if you know Jim Harbaugh football, that's what he wins.
They want to run the bone, want to get down.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
He'll get after you, right, because it sets up everything.
It's it's very similar to Kyle right. You want to
force everything nice and tight and make them fift these runs.
Ice and tight action go over the.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Top, and the play action is because they do it
out of these run formations and this Shanahan, this is
all of them.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
It's space everywhere.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
So they so they're not clogging this up with four
wire receivers, four wire, five wire receivers. They're going to
get deep on you with two wire receivers. And they
give them two wire receivers the whole field to operate.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, so if you're Kinlf your pain, if you're Drance,
let's get outter him on first down. Yeah, let's get
those nice you know, third and eight's third nines. Let's
bring those exotic pressure packages, those double A looks, those
sim pressures. And this is the other thing, Like physically,
those guys are gonna have our time matching up, but mentally,
those guys haven't been getting reps with each other. And
like as we know, like offensive line continuity is so

(41:13):
important and if it's not gonna be there, like I
think this boy band, I think this is gonna be
a really great opportunity to exploit what they do because
because they they they're not gonna be as effective at
being who they want to be.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, No, they have to change their identity, and this
what they don't want to They're gonna have to be
forced to play a game inside a box because of
the office lives.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
So it ain't gonna be no five step drops, ain't
gonna be none of that extended stuff. They gonna want
everything to be quick, quick passes and quick hitting runs.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
And they do have receiver like lad McConkie can win
in the slot, Honcky, like Keenan Allen can win in
the slide. Ronde Gatson can win the slot.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Again.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Quentin Johnson is a little bit.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
More outside, but he ranged it. He tall, he long,
he can get deep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, So I looked at it, say like there are
ways they can get around it. There, Like, if I'm
game planning, I'm thinking. If I'm then I'm thinking, let's
get in the quick game, Let's run a bunch of choices.
Let's get Keithan Allen matched up in the slot on
some linebackers. You know, a Marion Hampton can absolutely scoot.
Let's see if you can get some of these coverage
matchups you want. So there are ways. But you know,
this is the fun thing about game planning. You gotta
be one step ahead, right, But.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
If I'm coach Wick, this ain't no man to man
game for me. You just went through the guys they got.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah, they got guys that can win one on one
battles all the way across the line.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
This is a zone blitzing game to me.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
They got a running quarterback, so I want everybody to
keep their eyes on the quarterback. I'm gonna go gold coverage.
I'm gonna go zone blitzing. I'm gonna make him say,
where are they coming from?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Now? While we all live in US, is still looking
at number ten?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah? Absolutely, So that's kind of what we think on that.
Now let's talk about their defense, and their defense is
a Jesse Mener defense. He was in Michigan, Michigan. Yeah,
and so for whatever reason, I thought he was a
disciple of like Vic Fangiel, like this quarter match like,
but they actually run more straight zones, right. They run

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a little bit of front variety, and they bring uh
pressures but mostly simulated pressures, and they bring and they
will bring pressures on first time and south to run.
So it looks sick. It's well coached, I think partially
because it's pretty simple. Like with it reminds me of
Tan of like it's like the Kyle Shanahan version of
a defense. It's like he's basically said, like, these are

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our coverages. There's like five of them. These are our fronts,
here's five of them. Here are pressures, there's five of them.
And we can just intermatch those as SPC fit and
and so they can play fast and they can bring
pressures out of every look and guys know what to
do and it really shows up at a high level.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
And when you got some when you got a simple
which I love, when you got a simple defense like that,
they plays fast, and you got a guy like.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Darwin James, who, dude, he is good at football. When
he came out of like this, this is a.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Dude's dude, right, he's a dude, dude, and this he
like that, he like a version of he can version
got there, but he's there.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
He's very close.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yes, probably honestly the closest guy.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, no, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
It just terms how he plays, like because he changed
the way he just smacked. He just smack you back there.
And he had to change because because he kept getting hurt,
kept getting hurting outty only that and he was getting
fined and penalized for it too. So what I saw
too against the Giants is that you know, and and
and maybe because it was dark and they were still
trying to adjudste to him, but they was only sending
four and they was dropping back into coverage, and Dark

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took advantage of that and started running with the football.
So who knows how they're going to play us, and
not sure what we're going to have back there, you know,
whether Rao or Jaden.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Recording this on Tuesday, so we haven't got there.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
So we haven't got there. But I just feel like
when you can do that, especially knowing that that worked
for other teams. With us, yeah, like how we got
to be ready for that. We got to be ready
for we seeing more coverage because they trying to affect us,
and and and they can get out us with four,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
The other thing I was a little surprised by. So
in the Giants game, you'd expect them to say, hey,
you're a rookie quarterback. They're going to run the ball,
let's play single high, let's just stack the box. He
does play light boxes, which is a vixed fangio thing, right,
So we're going to play quarters three, but it's all
we're kind, we're trying to keep numbers over our receivers.
And I look at that and I'm like, if they're
going to do that versus us versus the commanders, Like,

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let's give him a heavy dose of sea rod, heavy
dose of.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Maybe you got me in the box?

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, make them get out of what they want to do,
I would say. And again, this is one of those
things where it's like they know that we know, so
do they change coming into the game.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
And I was asking them, I'm glad you brought it.
I was asking myself because I'm saying to myself, like,
wouldn't you pressure a young guy more when you want
when you want to put another man in the box,
Like why are you leaving this?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I was.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
I don't know if Neighbors was effected that Neighbors went
out or no, but I'm saying this was this was early,
this is before he went out, so I don't I
don't know if he played a role in that, but
I was just I'm glad he brought And I know,
you know, Logan is like damn near Einstein when it
come to that. Knowing the different defenses and why they
do what they do. But I was wondering for myself
just watching, I'm like, why they not and it can

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actually be effective? Or were they trying to say, we
don't think dark can read the coverage with so many
men and throw it to the open guy.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
And to be fair and to be fair to the
defense honestly, Like they had a bunch of short fields
to defense, so like a lot of those points aren't
necessarily on them, so like it worked. But it's just
like they had the interception from Dexter Lawrence which they
took back to like the two yard line. That's seven points.
They had a big return, you know, I mean.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Like I got you saying that kind of got But
this is who you want to play with is Darwin
Jane because they played it hard cover shale, because they
know in the run game he's still gonna be aggressive
because you were a cover four, Cover two, he's coming down.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
They do a lot of stuff with him, man, like
they blitzed him. Yea. They say he matches up. He
was matching up one on one with like slot like
slot receivers.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
He can he can do it.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
So he's the guy that if I'm the offense, I'm
keying in on and when I go for my big plays,
they coming, I hate to say it, they're coming at you.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
And I'm gonna use your aggression against you.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I'm a run, run, run, go deep, run run, run,
go deep. I'm gonna make you. I'm gonna make you
run out day long dark and.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
James, you won't be the one. And I will say,
their front's playing really well. Uh JAMAI called Rolls a
rookie for Morgon. He's he's doing a good job. And
Tayor Tart is a name that I'm sure no one's
familiar with, but he's like playing awesome. He's playing like
three technique for them. He's been really disruptive. Uh to
Tulopu is doing a great jobs. So they've got some
horses in the front now that are pretty good. Obviously

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Khalil Max hurt, but like, don't sleep on this defense
is good. It's well staff team, it's team.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
And that's what I say is it's it's hard to
especially a wounded a wounded dog, you know. And then
you're going in today, going into the backyard to go
out there and say, okay, let's that's the we both
in a situation where we both want we're going to
see who wanted to know most.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah. Yeah. So then in the in the second area,
they're playing like it's and it's I think give a
lot of credit to jesse mentor man because like he's
got these dudes. It's not overly complicated, but it feels
complicated when you're watching it, and they just know where
to be, yeah, at a super high level. So I'm
really curious to see what Cliff comes up with, because like,
if you want to give the quarterback things to kind
of dissect the coverage, you want to give them things

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that can run the football.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
So I'm curious and say, this is a zach Ertz game.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
This is we're gonna kill you in the middle of
the field before we go. We're gonna go middle, middle, middle, deep.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
But I will hope. I will hope too. We we
we find a way to sustain drives, you know what
I mean. And I feel like if you can do
that with divid I mean, like we have to lean
on these these these guys we have in the backfield
sooner or later, you know what I mean. And I
think the only way you can do that is by
standing ahead of the chains. So we can't be sitting
there getting penalized with no bull crap and we can't.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
We can't.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
We got to make every play count. You understand, if
you're not making every play, I feel like lash is
what we did. Every play count and even we got
to that fourth down, we got a new set of
downs because we made every play count. So we have
to get back to that kind of football. And if
you get back to that kind of football, you won
rest your defense. You don't have them tied. They might
they talk out of their mouths and having to deal

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with getting back on the field quick, and you get
yourself a chance to get something going to where now
you got them where you want the man you know,
sitting Herbert down sitting making sure that he's on the
sideline getting cold, you know what I mean. So I
need to see that from us this this week. I
think we I think that's our style of football that
we haven't seen yet this year.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, just being more aggressed and again like it goes
I think both the point you made there is they're
related in a way that maybe you don't expect.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Like to run the football, we have to possess the
possess possessed.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Right, and like, so fourth downs, third downs, those efficiency,
I was like, oh, they deserve more carriers. It's like
we gotta you gotta have play, you gotta have drive. Yeah,
And so like the I thought the offense played pretty
well against Atlanta. We didn't talk about that like that.
Mary did some really good things. But that's the one
buggeboo is we didn't possess the possessive.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
And I think if we do that, then obvious we
had like sixteen plays going into office of plays going
to have time saying that people got that's a that's
a drive from us last year. That was like some
of my first our first series, like our first drives
of the game was sixteen plays that time, all right,
So that's kind of our preview.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I think I'm really kind of wait to see what
Joe Junior and Cliff Kingsbury come up with. And I
know Dan Quinn's gonna get these boys right and ready
to go. But in the meantime, let's pay some bills here.
What do you think, Fred, you got one more red?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah? I think I got one.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Oh, I can't wait to hear this one.

Speaker 9 (50:17):
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Speaker 2 (50:17):
The Southern slang is useful and I like how these
things say read slowly? Don't you read this fast?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Perfect?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
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(50:49):
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(51:20):
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Speaker 3 (51:45):
You really probably pushed a parallel parking budd now, because
this is what cars got you do that.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
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Speaker 1 (51:50):
I get nervous.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
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Speaker 2 (51:52):
I don't haven't tracked. I won't try it like I
won't trust it.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
The only the only thing I have to try on
my truck is I use the one where no drove
long as you're looking at the road, it drives for you.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Drive assistance. Yeah, that thing is special.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
If you look over to the right long enough, it
would it would put the blink on for you and
get over to the right lane. If you look over
the left long enough, it would bro that thing. I'm
telling you, we're living in the future, man Especial.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
If you're not looking to tell you, I'm I'm finna.
I'm gonna leave you alone. It's on your own.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
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Speaker 4 (52:23):
Start putting your eyes down or they feel like you're sleeping,
they'll let you. You'll fill your car, you know, like, hey,
it's no longer on me, It's on you.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
So I like it, I don't trust it. Yeah, I
need control. I'm a control guy. I need control of it.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Truck all right for living in the future, man, Right now,
time for the fan favorite. Hell yeah, hell no, it's
good all right. So first one, special teams keeps being special.
This one feels like the easiest one we've ever had
on this man.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
You know what, It's just seemed like every week we're
going to see a huge return from either the kick
return team or the punt return team. And that's not
to say we we came into the game last week
saying that our special teams have been, you know, moving
on a different beat every level of it. But did
you see how many guys we had injured from the

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Falcons from the kickoff team every kickoff.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
I've seen so many Falcons laying Horris on them after
the kickoff.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I'm talking about it, unbelieva free, not one kickoff. Every kickoff.
I just sort closed my eye because I was like,
these are car.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
You had to be where I was at, sitting in
the stadium and just watching that body on the ground.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I'm like, damn, a new personality and I gotta get
a facus. The prop they kept getting out kept getting
so I believe.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
I believe so hell yeah, man, I think our special
team is gonna be special man. I mean they just
shown that that's who, that's them. They've already said, hey.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Gimm caf some props.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
He had one hundred and ninety some yards returning, like
Thatt's a lot of yards, and he missed them.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
It was some out there that he I'm sure when
he watching film coach like you got to hit it
because it's there.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah, And I think it took.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Him one or twice, once or twice and then the
third times he's done hitting it, So he left some
out there and I'm pretty sure he drawing it up
over there.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
I give him hell yeah for me.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Physical, tough, hyper competitive, and I think we've got a
good schematic edge. I think our returns are hitting in
a nice way.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
So I just don't want to see him doing too
many returns either, So that means we gave yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I don't want to see too minute.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Also, dude, the way he hits those like I like
to stand behind it on the kickoff, Like there's times
where like you see it open up and he's hitting
it and that dude just gets absolutely so it in half. Yeah,
and then he'll stand up and just walk to the
side and I'm like, I would be dead, Yeah, dude,
that would be dead. No.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
It was the most physical kickoff team I think I
ever see it in my life.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
It was crazy. It's crazy, all right, last one only
to today Washington gets a critical turnover.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Yeah they've been We've been right there. Yeah, we've been
right there. The turnovers coming buncheah. It's no reason tell
why they come. It's none of that. But they come
in bunches. And the seal is broken. Now it's like
when you're drinking, you go you the bathroom over all
night long. The seal has been broken.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
That's a good one. You get up that one time
to be alone. Now to sit there by the time
I'm being at a minute, yea, I gotta go again.
What's that seal broke? Oh?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Man? So I'm gonna say, hell y'all, hell y'all again.
I think the banged up offensive line, the pressure they'll
be able to create.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Yeah, I think that will help. I think just her
cover gonna throw them and he put to in the air.
One of them came from Sexy dexy. Yeah, he just
put his hands up, knocked the ball to hisself and
and and tried.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Like a three hundred pounds of running. We tried.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I know he pissed off kicking the seventy five.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
I'm just saying, is a defensive player. It just brings
a smile to three hundred pounds get their hand on
the rock man.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
So yeah, he's gonna's gonna give us opportunity. Man, But
we just gotta we gotta be that team man. We
gotta be that magnet when like Baald is life, we
gotta see it.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
And it's also you know, one thing I will say
about the Martin Hampton. He runs crazy hard. But when
people run hard like that, they lose track where the
ball's at. So maybe we get one there too. We
get one on special teams muff punt, you know something
like that.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
So we need it.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah. I think this is a game, This is good
football team in LA.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
And I think we don't need a short field to
get some schools like you cannot drive eighty OUs on
his team may time and think you're going to school.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
We need short fields, short fields.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, anyway, that's gonna do it for today show. Please
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Speaker 3 (56:47):
Man, we feel good fans. You should feel good too.
He's just the start of the season. Come down, Grandmama in.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
The kitchen, Get out of the kitchen. She couldn't, she couldn't,
and still be right.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
They't take some miles