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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we're talking tanking
quitting River, I don't think so. We got Jane Daniels
to play or not to.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Play, always play, Always play.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
And then we got the Giants preview with Jackson Dart
the young Man, the guns slung Eer, Wow child him
Sale absolutely got hell yeah or him and his Fred
supposed to be in the Olympics for swimming. It all
starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm

(00:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Boys.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes, it is cold outside outside, outside, and I don't
get cold, but today it was the first day.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I was like, because you ain't wearing no choice, I've
noticed it.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm not weren't shorts today. It is happening, and it's
been like the wind, the wind. It's like the people
forget that we are in the Mountain Valley. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're in the Mountain Valley. It's like the Appalachi. Yeah,
the blue rig and it.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Comes down and we feel it like even if you
got you ain't never noticed that your front of your
on your dick never makes it a year because it
gets tossed around. It gets tossed around in this Virginia.
Nobody ever says win when they say Virginia, they think Chicago,
windy City. I'm telling you right now, Northern Virginia is windy.

(01:28):
Is any place in America?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, so cold outside. But also, you guys have been
great to us right this entire year, and it's been
kind of a tough year. But if you want to
support the show, please make sure you buy tickets for
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you want to come see us in person, we have

(01:51):
a live Christmas special December sixteenth at Tap City in
Ashbourn at seven pm and we're gonna have legends there
be Mitch London's gonna come, Santa's gonna be there. We
got a whole big set producer Jason.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I mean, it's gonna be at least two big backs there.
If it's Sam and London.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's gonna be two big backs. They'll come and then
Georgia shows you're.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Coming to London like that, now they jumping out the car.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's mutual. It's I'm gonna show where London is this
Fred brought up. I'm going to show that Fred London
brought up.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Were you guys like that when you played? Yes? Really
to me?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So I got rand over in New York.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I know this is one story, but I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I got rand over my hair and got knocked off,
and this this dude just stands over me, like get
your get up.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
The game.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I asked him about that. Yeah, so I said, you know,
did you actually said to him, It's like yeah. But
he was like hollering on the ground like a yeah.
So if I'm heard, you're supposed to come to my aid.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
So I'm gonna tell you why London did that because
I had a coach in high school that said, if
you're not injured, yeah you bet not ever lay on
his field. He matter of fact, he say, even if
you is injured, don't lay on this field.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Don't lay on my fist. He said.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
But I have to come out. Yeah, if I got
to walk out there that field to catch you or
to get you up off that field. It might be
your last down you play lit. I remember guys, boy,
they lipping off that thing because they don't want to
get because of myself.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Noney was basically just trying to teach you a lesson. Man,
don't show. Don't show a.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Guy that he got the best. I felt like London
with heartless in that situation. And usually when somebody walk
up to you and it's your team make the first
thing they do is reach, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I'm gonna pick you up.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
He said no, no, he said you was in the
feed position.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I couldn't reach, no hand out, no get up. He said,
you were get up.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
He said you were killed on the stream. I will say,
Fletch one of my most formative memories of my NFL career.
So ten years in the NFL. I just jacked my
shoulder up, spread my sea joint. So like you know,
you come after if you ever spend your shirt, yeah,
of course, like you can't. Yeah, it's just dating. You're
on that stupid pulley thing and you're trying to get
your arm up and I was like getting the stem

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on there and Fletch comes in. He's like, what'd you do?
You know, he's like looking over the little divider in
the in the room. That's all I spread Macy joy
great too, like hurts pretty bad and he goes he
looks at Me's like I didn't miss a play when
I did mine and just walked off. And I was like, well,
I get some practice. But that's what he does.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
But he does it.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's such an emotionless way that it makes you feel the.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Type of tap. Yeah, you're like, oh, well, I guess yeah,
Like I'm I'm kind of being softes this dude.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah I told you I ain't saying nothing fresh for
a reason when yeah, my head.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Business he not.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
But you know, it's like, that's so funny that I
was just having a conversation that other day with somebody.
I was like, bro, you know it's weird I say
now that I'm like I'm done playing, I probably speak.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
More to the people I work with than I did
it with players.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I mean, like, it's a it's a few guys that
you just like, yeah, we know each other.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Now we got a.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Bun And I'm like, you will walk through that locker
room certain guy won't say nothing to you.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
You won't say nothing to them.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
You will look at because on them, I'm gonna look
at you, yeah, just to see what kind of energy
you got.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
And I'm like, I mastered the energy. I'm not. They
don't know. I don't know. But see I was the
one that I was friends pretty much with everybody.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
That's what I'm saying, Like, I'm open because you know,
we played, we had the card game, so we always
had those Bob groups.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
It was come around did.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
You hang out most with I was just trying to
think back, like like a lot of guys, it's just
it's a it's a selective few.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
But the crazy part about.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
It, I will walk through the locker room and it'd
be different little gatherings. You might have Thrash and Rand
over there. They're talking about the buying, praying, and you
can go sit in any one of them.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know. I remember walking.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
By what's the office a lineman name, and we just
talked about he played with the Jets with me, also
Randy not Randy white guy had had the gray hair,
had the silver hair.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I know exactly who you're talking about. He was pretty
good with the Jets and he came over here probably
on his last he was he was the old guy. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
He used always talking about stocks and stuff, and so
he was like you got any stuff? It wasn't you
said his name the other day when we're watching film
and I was like, Dn he played with me with
the Jets also, But anyway, he was talking about stocks
and that was my first time being introduced to stocks.
So it was just funny, man that I remember, like,
you know, just certain groups man that you're just like

(06:30):
I could go and partake in it, but you know
we're not friends. Teammates, teammates pretty much friend with everybody
kickers that doesn't snappers. Hey, the red Snapper was my
favorite eating all Bright Listende, I cool rock with eating
all right. When I say funny, when I say, like,

(06:53):
you know, one of the guy that's very self aware,
like he knew.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm not the bench. He knew.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
He was like, I'm not the best athlete that I
just snapped the ball and I'll never forget.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
He went to the Pro Bowl a couple of years
in a row.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right Madden still had him like ranked fifty four or so.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
He read a.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Letter to man like how nd h E and my
steal rate fifty and I'm a multiple time pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, I mean, Madden's crazy like that, but we're good
for him though.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
He did great. Person that's my dude, the red Snap dude.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
You know, it's funny thinking back, like specialists are pretty cool.
Do you think they tend to be It was either
weird really weird, edgy or they're reserved. Yeah all right,
so yeah, just reminder Live Christmas Special that's on the sixteenth.
One Type City. It's gonna be awesome. Producer Jason kept
talking about it like he's like, this is the biggest
show we've ever done. Come check it out.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, it's gonna be great. And you've been a city
tap right cool, that's about No.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I love City.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Chap's good, relaxed Good said, I love it because the
bar so be Like when I go out to places,
I never see it at tables. I usually see at
the bar because the bar means more conversation.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
The table is at the bar too, But I don't
look it.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I ain't looking at I know, I know. It's just
you guys are so different. It's so funny. It's so
we're so different, but we so the same.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's like I be the one that goes sit at
my own table by myself, and I'm like, you know what,
I don't want to be bothered right now.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Let me sit over here like you're so introverted, and
you still will come over there. They coming anyway. I
don't know why you running. I'm not running up there
that you know. I'm giving you the sign. I'm painting
a picture for you. I want to be alone.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yeah, alone, But Fred like can't stand not Yeah, you
don't have too hard.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, you got to enjoy life.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Man, dude, I have no doubt about it. All right.
So I think we put this off long enough. We
got to talk about kind of the state of the
Washington commanders. We've all been here, we have all been
we all have been here before. So let's talk about
So obviously the game did not go as expected, right,
What now after a loss like that? How many games off?

(09:12):
Four games off?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Four game all division?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
What what is the mentality of this team moving into
these last couple of games and of players?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Really, let's get into the psychology of all athletes.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
It's self preservation in a way.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Can't putting none bad on tape, all right, I'm playing
for my future, all right. So for all the things
that people think these players don't got to play for.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
They got tons to play for.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
And the thing is, Jaimi Cousins, a losing year don't
mean I need to lose out personally. So the thing
is they're going to play football. Don't you worry about that.
Ain't no taking in the NFL. We don't do what
the NBA do. We don't do what baseball do. We
don't have a seventeen games to play. We need to
make sure every time we play one of these games.
My presence is felt. I believe that they're gonna finish scrong.

(10:00):
They don't mean they're gonna win out four of them,
but that mean that they're gonna play to the end.
I got a feeling because of the leadership in that
locker room that they're gonna play to the end.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I think we're gonna. I mean, of course, that's
a great answer.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
That's a great bit to say how you feel, and
that's what you're supposed to do. I think as players, man,
we have no choice.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
It's no choice but to go out like I can't
half ass on the football field. If I do, I'm
either not gonna get in the game no more or
I'm gonna get hurt.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
So, and with all that being said, the iron the
skoy don't lie. It's gonna see every and anything I'm doing.
It's gonna it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Tell my body language.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Like I told you the story about when coach called
me ni because he saw my bity language. I'm not
getting no passes. It's gonna tell if I'm you know,
giving effort. It's gonna tell if I'm just I'm going along.
I'm going out there feeling tune to the game. So
it's like they gotta play. But with all that being said,
is they gotta just find a way, man, And I
think it's it's easier said and done.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
We don't.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
It's hard to play in these times because especially different positions,
depending on other folks like myself. Yeah, I remember being
in some some seasons like this, and as a receiver,
it's one thing. If you suck as a team, don't
let that quarterbacks up because it's even worse for you.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, that quarterback ain't hitting on all ceilings and he's
just out there just so like boy, it's tough for you.
It's tough slid, and so I think everybody gonna go
out there and fight, man, But it's just about.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
We don't We've been We've been saying this for how long.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Now, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
We gotta get that one win, Like let's start with it,
like you gotta get off the snide at one point.
At one point, you got to get that one win.
That says, all right, all right, the slide is over
this slide, guy, that thing ain't gonna double ups. That
thing going and left the right.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
This slide, there's some people on that slide bouncing.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Around and everything. I want the right to be off.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
It's some people on the slide upside down.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
It reminds me of the time I rolled a roller coast,
which I said is my last time. My kids talked
to me to getting on it, and I wanted to
be over with as soon as it started, right get
really dizzy.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
It's just you know how you you get grown to that.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Point of you like I can't take this no more.
I don't want the thriell, I don't want the suspense.
I don't want to actually, so I was I was
on the I was on the roller coasters. Happened recently though, yes,
and Tim hot tower Son was just staring at me,
laughing as I was just eyes closed, balled up.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just please get this over with?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Did I tell you one time to Disneyland, and so
I'm not a big roller coaster guy, but my kids
want to do it. So I'm doing roller coasters, roller coasters.
And then we went to Universal it went to like
the Harry Potter one and were clamped in and it's
like the arm with the screen. Yeah, and I got
bad motion sickness. So your boy was throwing up on
that mouth and I got off the thing and I
was just like covered in violence. And so then I

(12:56):
was like, I'm gonna go home.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
I think list I was balled up so much, like
I wasn't crying, but water was coming out of my eyes,
and I was like, I promise.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
You once this is over with.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Never never did.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't care if my kids challenged me. I don't
care if it ain't a teacup free of ain't riding
thes are the word, listen, I'm not riding it, man,
I don't need it. And see when we were young,
my kids they all on the thing, they free them all.
It ain't can up. I could not take just the
quick turns and the drops, I could not take it.

(13:32):
I couldnot take it.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, so it has been a long ride. Yeah, speaking
of roller coasters, the one thing that I keep getting
is like tanking, like ending the season.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
No, nobody's tanking. We're not a tank.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
And I think that's something that's hard for people who
maybe haven't been in the locker room and understand. Like
Tanna alluded to this, Like I remember I was on
some bad football teams twenty eleven, twenty thirteen, here, twenty sixteen,
when I was in Chicago, seventeen, when I was in
San Francisco. The thing that is so important to remember
is like you're not just playing for the Commanders or

(14:04):
the Redskins at the time or the you're playing for
the NFL. And what I mean by that is, like
Tanna talked about the eye in the sky, Like what
a coach told me, multiple coaches told me, is that
no one cares if you're losing, No one cares if
you're winning, No one cares if you're in of it,
in it or out of it. They're gonna go back
and watch your last three game, right, They're gonna watch
your last three games. So like when I'm a free
agent and they're gonna go back and watch me, do

(14:26):
they want to see me disinterested in not playing good
football because someone said we were gonna tank. No, Like
I'm motivated because I want to stay in NFL football player. Yes,
So that's the thing that there is, no there's no
incentive for the player to tank. Ever. Ever, right now,
I think you can get into this thing where it's
like the the the organization, like they'll sit players, they'll

(14:47):
take people out, and people on our like I remember
Philadelphia did that a couple of years ago here and yeah, yes,
so I do think there is some organizational tanking.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
But but if the.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Players on the field, that dude's going to play as
heart as I can.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Do you remember the game two thy thirteen, Thank the
Shanahan's last year Chicago in New York. Worst game slushyet,
it was so frozen, Like this is how you knew
the game is finna go to you know what? Yeah,
first first player of the game. I don't know if
it was the first play, first drive. Let's say first drive,

(15:22):
I run an out route, I'm wide open the win
and the ball just win, like, I'm like the ball
from the lay in my hand. Kirk Cousins threw the
ball and it just it took it, took a dive
and took a dive on and it hit my finger.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
So it was like, ah, so I'm like it was cold.
I ain't no as a receiver. You like, I'm already cold.
It's gonna be one of those games and be one
of those games.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
And then it got worse and worse, and I remember
I remember somebody you know, and I don't say no name.
Somebody was like, O, g get out of here, man,
you don't need to be stilling this game.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I was like, nah, I refuse. It ain't going my way.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, but I'm finna put every ounce of what I
got left in me and finish this game.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Because you know, at the same time.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
My my role was much different, but it was it
was one of our guys was down, so now they
needed to bring the road and the guys on the
sideline like, bro, come out, Bro, the game is over.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
No, I'm not coming out.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
And so that's what we're saying, like, you know, we're
trying to get you guys to understand that. It was
easy for me to just say, man, screw to you.
You know what I mean, they ain't like me to play.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I'm getting ready for Vacas.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
I'm getting but nah, it's like it's one of those things. Brother,
you don't never know when it's gonna be your last time,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And that was that was that was your thirteen. That
was your thirteen for me.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
So I could have easily hung it up and they
would have saw that ten of this tenner just gave
in and he had a chance to go out there
and get more reps he had. You could have went
full a bit easy to go ahead and see not
my type of game, But it's easy to do that.
And I think folks fail to realize, man, Like, if
we don't win, then that's that's one thing. But you're

(17:03):
trying to win every time you're out there. You're trying
to give a winning effort, and that's that's all the
balls down to.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Man.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
You want to go out there and put the best
thing you can put out there, because just as hard
as it's not, you know, not promise for you to
be playing next year.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's not promise for you to be on that team
next year.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
You see what I'm saying, it's a lot of guys
in the locker room that know they don't have another year,
so you're playing for another team. You're playing this to
get film to say, well, look this is what I
did these last two games everything when we was out
of it.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, man, that was one of the worst games ever.
I still vividly remember that. I hate it was raining.
It was like thirty three degrees, so win in that statement.
And I think there was a rumor that I think
we threw the ball fifty times a.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Big like tanner you got. I was shaken. I couldn't
stop shaking. I was in the middle, like, bro, get
out and get warm.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I played a game in Minnesota outside probably no, no, no.
We played Green Bay in December, right by Christmas. I said,
I'm gonna make some business diseases. All right, listen here.
First of all, you know how you get in, you
get outside, and you're like, I don't want to be outside.
I do not want to be outside today, right, And

(18:15):
the worst thing can ever happen in the cold.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I don't know if y'all agree with me, is for
somebody to step on your foot. Listen, I really hit
Jeromee Batties and everybody else.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
You step on my toe and you hear that thing
just bustude.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
You gotta take a shower, oh bed Man.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
The other one that used to get me was like,
I don't know if you guys had this, but like
when you're blocking and someone's face mask with like form
and it's cold outside and it's the metal, You're.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Like, oh, yes, you know that line. You see the red.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Line talking about something that was like fill my forum
and he's like, Dad, why is it so bumpy? I'm
like face masks.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Face and being at the bottom of a pile. Get
at the bottom a pile? This this death.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Did we play a game in Chicago that was negative
five degrees?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
See it was negative too when I played a green Backs.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
But grabbing, like just grabbing somebody, My hands hurt so band.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
The first player that would have had my hoodie, hoodie,
everything else inside my uniform. You just saw my that
big jackie. We went on the sideline, it would have
been in my jersey. Jersey would have been on.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Saved me because he put me on the scoopa diving,
so he put once he put me on the scoop
of diving theme them with suits.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
They keep all the keeping the woman, all the.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Kind of strict you you ain't gonna be it fast.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So yeah, we kind of talked about the players mentality,
the idea of tanking, the idea of quitting. I just
don't think that's a thing, you know, obviously for for
the for the individual players, because they do it win
with it. There's so much incentive for them to keep playing,
like there's there's money, there's opportunity, Like there's so much
of that going on. And I guess the next question
that I get from fans all the time is like

(20:07):
what do these last four games mean? Because I know
a lot of fans say like I want the draft pick,
I want whatever. But to me, it's like if you
go out and you lose these next four right and
you're not competitive it it does something to the confidence
of the.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
It leaks into Nicks year.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, all right, that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
It's an app it's an apt to taste in there,
like you want to finish scron no matter what out
of years going, you want to finish on a good note,
so I can stow it on a good note.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Like I just think, like this is a great opportunity.
Like you've got four division games. Yeah, and if you
came out and like go blow for blow, toe for
toe and you're competitive, you're tough, you're playing command.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I don't want to see, right, It's.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Like, oh my gosh, like all of these things we
worked on this offseason, all the injury, like we're at
least we're pointing someone in the right direction, which is
I think really valuable, not only for the players, but
for the coaches too. Could you imagine how they put
so much timing on this thing. I'm sure at some
point they're like, do we even know football anymore? Right?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Because it's not because because you're going through this bad time,
you start to doubt yourself.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
I think more than anything, you don't want to look
like a punching bag. We already lost a lot of games.
A lot of these games that you can see us
losing is not because we're not a capable team of
going out there when you see so many teams. You know,
just the game the other night, man, when I watched
the Eagles go down to the Chargers, I'm like, we
just we just went up there and did what we
want to do to those.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's always, But that's my point.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
My point is that's why they say it's any given
Sunday or any given day, because it just all depends
on how you fare with that team, how you match up,
how you like, who has the advantage, and when you
playing divisional games, this is your time to showcase. Man,
look we took care and we can take care of business. Brother,

(21:54):
is it taking care of business? Looking good in the game. Yeah,
playing well in the game or winning the game. Take
care of your business. If you show out that I
can go out here and go toe to toe with
these guys because some one of these guys gonna be
in the playoffs, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Who one of them, you know, Or maybe you get
a chance to spoiler and say, hey, you know nobody,
we're gonna throw hate you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
If you want to anybody, it's about.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Being able to say this is where we stack up
against the guys in our division.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
This is how far we This is how far we
off because we know a lot of the stuff that
we went through this year, it's stuff that we couldn't
you know, control, cont control, you came losing season.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I remember where year we had a losing season and
we had like four or five games ago, and I
was like, it's time to be silky, just the hater
of the year a right, Like if we can't if
we can't win with love, you don't win with hate,
all right, then we're gonna make sure that Dallas, Philadelphia

(22:50):
and the New York Giants.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Feel this hate at the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Like, if you gonna take it out on anybody, it's
those three teams right there.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, and again, like you said, if you can make
waves again in the division at the end of the year,
like it does something for your confidence next year, It
does something to those teams confidences moving into the posting
in the offseason. So I think that's something that's going
to be really important to just end on a strong
note here. Okay, this is kind of our fan reaction episode.
Obviously we had the tanking thing. Now we're going to
talk about like execution versus perceptions. So the one thing

(23:20):
I got a ton of questions on, a ton of
questions on was the goal line, the raid zone, the
red zone, right, because you know, they they run the football,
then they throw the ball three times. Yeah, and I
do think, like are we so, first off, I don't
have any problem with three those those three cars.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
FLL Coleman was open, right, let's throw up there. Yeah,
Coleman was opened on their plate. And these are one
of those plays the offensive coordinator is keeping their bag
for months, for months.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, I was the guy. I was that guy, and
that you know, like I was the the tight end,
the blocking tight end. It will come in and like
you know, you got to sell it for a couple
of seconds and do your things. So I felt like
Coleman was a little quick or whatever, but like it's
a it is one of those play money.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
As much as he was, he was open. If that
was zach Ertz, if that was Baits, if that was
more confident because you know, I can throw him ugly
because they're gonna catch it. That's a Now he's actually
the office alignement in a situation where you didn't run
the best route, but you are open that dB. You
see what he did, just threw his hands up. That's tougher.

(24:24):
It's a tougher throw or or catch for a guy
who's a non receiving you know, a player. So yeah,
for a second he was, but it wasn't clear enough,
especially too for a guy who just getting back into
the lineup. And that's what we talked about in the pregame.
You know, oh you think it is going to get
back out there and be Jaden.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Dames, Bro, it takes time.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Don't take for granted how not being in the game
and then now finally getting a chance to play. That's
why I was like, Bro, you have to see what's
going on, see what goes on because.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Practice is important.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
I to you, like, that's one of the reasons why
I didn't take practice for granted. I didn't take missing
games for granted because when you're not in that it's
a total different ball game that game. Go out there
and re change his quick stuff to how the game
flow is and and how getting into the whole thing
of making plays flow. And then the quarterback you think
it should be easy because they're touching the ball all

(25:20):
the time, but still, man, that cock has to slow
down and the things you saw before has to be
the same pace that you saw it before.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
That's why I believed that the coachs have called Philip Rivers.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
That's that's that's not then Adam then.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Me and Philip got the same amount of kids. Let's
start that. But but it's also like he's forty he's
forty four, Like he can't be feeling good. He didn't
look to it when he was there. He feeling good.
He hasn't played into two thousands.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Hey, you calling a dude. I would, I would call
Tom Brady. Listen to me.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
But I'm saying, Philip, what's Anthony richards situation? I know
he's on ir like, remember he broke his what I know,
he broke his orbit doing a band warm up. Woman
apped off the back.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Look, you know what his his look in the pregame
is pushing him to show him at Bay. Listen to me.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm gonna go say it right now for Kevin O'Connell
is gonna be the Rams future quarterback. I'm telling you
all this right now, French, just understand you. Anthony Richardson,
I'll stop quarterback for the Rams.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
So man, I mean maybe like that's the thing is
like someone's gonna look at that and be like that
dude can play no, No.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I can fix him.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
And it's not And again it's to me, he's like
he's like J. J. McCarthy a little bit and like
he just needs reps.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, he didn't play again, Like.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
There was some maturity stuff that came out about him,
you know, like missing meetings and being late and but
he was twenty years old. Yeah, like let's give him
an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, he's still finding this zoom.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
But anyway, so let's get back to this thing. So
I think that the offensive lineman was a little bit
quick the route. I mean it's his first time run
the round in the game. Is a little bit quick.
He's out in the route before Jayden turns around. The
coverage gets around it. So next play, next play, you
run an angle route to zach Ertz, which has to
be I would assume one of your more successful red.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Zone if I'm the opposite team. That's the only route
I'm worrying about it in the red zone.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Right, because it's the one that kills you, right, and
it's good versus zone, it's good versus man. No, they
just did Van Gigle just did a great job matching it, right,
So you throw the football away. Okay, I don't have
a problem. I like the first one because you're subverting expectations.
You think you're gonna run the football, bring the extra
alignment in great. Next one, it's one of your more
successful pass plays, right, let's run that. The next one

(27:45):
is a play called redline. It is the play that
literally every team in the NFL runs, and they executed
it well and Deebo drops the football. Now it's a
tough catch, but it's the one that he normally makes.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, you got to make that case.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
And so what I would say is like, are we
calling for more runs if we make that catch?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
No, we're not.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah, that's that's my thing because it's expectations, right, Like
I think why most of the fan base got in
the uproar is because c Rod got us down there
with the runs. Yeah, they felt like him gashing the
team got us down there, and then when we get
down there, we don't give him the chance to ring
the bill.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
It's a great point. And if I'm being hypercritical, maybe
I said, you get one more run in there. So
like two of the four plays are run plays, just
to make sure they they respect it, right, But I
will say this too, you know, so like on red
zone rushes, So there's five attempts in the red zone. Okay,
one was fifteen yards. It was the play that led
right up to that sequence there, Okay, the next the
next one was two yards, zero yards, one yard and

(28:45):
three yards, And everyone says, oh, you're averaging four point
two yards a rush, But it's because you have that
fifteen yard run, right, And so I do think running
the football in the red zone is a little bit different.
Teams don't have to respect the past. It's just tight, yes,
and so again, sometimes you gotta run the football, and
I would acknowledge that, like maybe one more run maybe.
But again, in terms of the play calls that were

(29:06):
called in isolation, I have no problem with them. I
think they're actually they put you in a good spot
to be successful, right. And so again people get in
this narrative of running the football, right, And so you
go down to the play where Jane Daniels shows the interception, right,
your first play in that sequence is a rush for
zero yards, right, Like it that is an important factor

(29:26):
here because then all of a sudden it's second and ten. Yeah, right,
then you have an incomplete ball. It's third and ten, right,
and all of a sudden you're in a tough spot
to even get there. So to me, it's like everyone's like,
run the football more, run the football more, and I
think tanna be Mitch. I think you guys on the
post game, it's something that I would totally agree with
versus this team specifically, you got to run the football more.

(29:47):
But it can't be only running the football. We can't
turn into a service academy here and run the football
all the time. We're not just not built that way
to do that. And so I think like understanding the
balance here is also an important part of the play,
calling you an execution.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
But I think also too, I think more so just
that first drive and not talking about no other time
because because I looked and I watched us be on
the center, you know more than we have, especially with Jayden,
Like I saw us running the ball out the first
you know, out the gate in the second half, like
we did a lot of things that you want. But well,
I think I was talking about I can't speak for

(30:21):
nobody else. It was the flow of the game. On
that first drive. We ran it first down, then we
threw those passes, three passes in a row, So it
was just the flow I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I was just saying, more so on the flow, I
don't I would.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Have put another run in there one just to say, hey,
let me see if I can just stick it in
here one time and then if I'm going to go
for it on fourth down and already and I ran
already again. I ran it twice because you didn't have
to run it again after you ran it the first
time for a pass.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Okay, Now that showed them something.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Either play action wise to make them think, let me
get under center now with my quarterback and stuff it
in there, or play action get him outside the pocket,
something that can give us.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
A two way goal.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Either the quarterback because he has legs, he can get
in there, or he can act like he's gonna get
in there and dump it up like something that just
that goes with what we do as an offense, like
with the with the I guess you can say with
the skill set of my quarterback, you know what I'm saying,
instead of dropping him back and saying find somebody open,
because to me, I feel like you're not using it.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You ain't got enough options, you're not using what he
can do.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
You know, at that time, I want to give my
quarterback a two way go like all right, you can
run this thing in there, or you can find one
of those guys streaking from the backside or one of
those guys on the laid out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
So it's so funny because that was the first time
I think I seen each team get the ball once
in the first quarter and the quarter was over.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
You'll run me a lot of a high school.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yes, yes, it was. It was you get a chance,
I get a chance. It's the fastest quarter of all time.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, because there weren't a lot of incompletions, there weren't
a lot of runs, There was no stoppages, there was
no change of possessions, like it was what no pun No,
that's what I'm saying. It was quick, right, yeah, and
so again like I don't have a problem with that.
I agree with Tanna. Maybe one more run something in there,
but uh, I don't know. I think the thing that
stuck out to me, maybe in a in a negative

(32:13):
way was the protection and it wasn't like one person's fault.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
But it's also you dealing with the number one blitz
teams in the NFL, and we think they over sixty
percent blitsen ain't nobody even twenty percent close to them.
I mean, it's diabolic it's diabolical what they do. They're saying,
we're gonna set you on fire. So therefore, when if
I'm gonna set you on fire, that takes away deep passes,
and if you're gonna throw a deep pass, it better
be now.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
But I feel like Jade did a great job though,
especially that first first series yeah, where you know, especially
that first play. Remember we just we had talked about
in the pregame, will we spread them out so we
can show this dinner show their hand. First play, you
got two hour receivers outside the number we got. We
got four receivers out there, and they both outside numbers. Yeah,
and They'm like, okay, they showing their cars. Okay, so

(32:59):
we see this, you know what I mean. Like so
I would have loved to see that some more. You know,
I mean, let's run our ball, let's run our offense
from nest splip. But you know, like you said, you
gotta still get back into the guess what you do
to what you do best. And I think Cliff did
a good job by showing him that, but I didn't
see it anymore, you know what I mean. We went
back to saying, all right, this is what we do
we're gonna do this. And to me, when it's muddy

(33:20):
and you got a quarterback like Jayden and who's in
and out of the lineup, you're going to have that
guy that's not clear all the time, you know what
I mean, You're going to have that. You give him
more chances to not see it as smooth as you
would like.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
It, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, And I think the other thing that stock out
to me too is on the first drive, Flores was
a little bit more conservative, a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
He was feeling this out, feeling so too. But like
a boxer, you're trying to see you how you want,
to tell you how you go.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
And I think the thing with Jaden is like he
will if you do that, he'll dice you up, right,
if he knows what you're doing, he'll dice you up.
And we've seen that numerous times this year, last year,
all thing. And then the second drive comes around and
it turns into bombs over back. Then yea, we are
in where we got seven guys at the line of scrimmage,
who's coming, who's not?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
And I'm gonna make You're gonna have to where's Waldough
cold team?

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Howda behind your head. They coming, they got coming, They
was coming to boy.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
And so I think that to me was the like
the big, the big issue, the big takeaway from the
game is like there was a lot of free runners.
They had our time with the cross dog, you know,
just the overall kind of approach there.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I give the Minnesota defense some prople.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You gotta give them problems.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
They rush to open up each other. They're not single
of rushers.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
And the team.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I seen them twisting, turning, curving. I seen them leaning
into blockers, coming out from blockers like they're not I'm
finna go get twenty sex and it's just one person
with all.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
That, With all that too, and and you can you
can kind of chime in on this too. With all
that being said, after even after that turno we had,
it was still only seventeens.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
They only got three out of that. Yeah, you see
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Like, so that just goes to show you how things
can wing it and you can end up being in
the game where the momentum is taken because of we
allowed it to be taken.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
We turned the ball over.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
We finished, we finished drive. You put your defense that
was already in a situation where they was giving up
a lot. No, they just had played thirteen plays on
the drive, but now not the bottom is out. You
can't even they don't even know how to stand up
now because we put them back out there. They know
that quick two times in a row, and then now
they can't, you know, they can't stand up for you.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
And I think the other thing too, is like they
couldn't stand up for like the defense specifically, and then
we'll move on after this, but like the you know
that nineteen play drive, there's a third and six, there's
a third, and eight, there's a third, and ten, there's
a third and twelve. Ye, and so like they did
a good job on first second down, yeah, and then
it's like you give it up on there. And so
I think there's a little bit of the offense didn't

(35:49):
hold up there under the bargain, but also defensively when
you get in those moments, yeah, take it, we gotta
win it.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
I saw I saw us playing soft zones on the
outside and I and I respect it.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
You know, as a deep man, you don't.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
I can't sit there and tell a guy how to
play somebody, especially if you know he got a little
something on them.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
But I was just wondering, like up front, we couldn't
get home. We couldn't.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I mean it was it was in Minnesota's offensive.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I mean I saw guys. I'm like, I don't see nobody.
It's a clean possible j.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
J McCarthy and people acting like JJ superly carved us up.
I thought he made all the the minor media throws. Yeah,
but he ain't throw for three hundred or nothing and
some yard Like he made the throws that was presented
to him.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
But that's what you want from your quarterback and struggling
run the ball efficiently.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Give him a chance to dink and dumb then and
before you know it, the game.

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Speaker 1 (38:24):
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Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, it seemed kind of technical. Did Yeah, this is
the one that you.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
You're like, Man, there's all these.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, this is where we moved. That's the future.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
It'll get all right. So now let's talk about Jane
Daniels real quick. So I think the thing okay, you know,
like we talked about A, I don't really have a
problem with the three passes and the goal line. Again,
I'm maybe that's me, but everyone's been saying to me,
like we gotta sit see it for what that's all
I'm saying, Man.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
For what? Sit where? Yeah, like where you're gonna say that?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I guess, I guess on the side.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
No no, no, no, no, look no no no, no, no,
no no no. Patrick Mahomes gonna finish the year. Joe
Burrow gonna finish the year. Jack Daniel's gonna finish the year.
At the end of the year, finish what you started.
And I want, I want all fans to realize this
about JD five. It's good as he was last year,
as good as he is, he still got a ways

(39:27):
to grow. He still got things that he gonna flourish,
he gonna get better at, and he won't get better
at those things sitting on the bench. He is a
he hasn't reached his peak. It he hasn't got close
to his peak it and he playing the visional games
at the end of the year. That's very important. Why
they're important. These are the guys you're gonna be playing

(39:47):
the next decade. These are the teams you need to
get used to playing these guys. No, no, no, we
ain't sitting nobody.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yeah, I mean I understand, man, the fans, that's a
reason I feel like we're here. I'm not saying not
not take there are the.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Reason we're here, though, I'm just saying the reason.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
They the reason why we play the game. They the
reason why we get paid the big bucks. You're the fans,
and I appreciate you, but also you got to understand something,
what you feeling and how you think. We don't think
that way. We don't play off of your thoughts. We
play off of what we're I guess you can say
what drives us, how we're wired to play, how we're

(40:30):
wired to go out there and do our jobs. And
you know he's healthy. He was out there when he sat.
He said, for a reason, he got a little dean.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, he dinged it. Of course you're gonna ding it.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Of course he's gonna feel something because you followed on
something that was just weeks ago it located, So yes,
it's gonna be tender.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
And guess what the coaching staff did. They did what
you wanted them to do. When he first heard it.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
They set him.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Down because you said they said, you said today, why
is he out there?

Speaker 4 (40:58):
So they said, guess what last time he was in
this situation, everybody could. Everybody criticized us for not sitting them.
So guess what we saw enough to day. Let's sit
them down. You know we're safe here. Let's sit him down.
And guess what he's going to finish. And I don't
mean to cut you off. He's going to finish because
he has it in him and he's still he's healthy
enough to go out there and play the game.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
And I will say this like this is not all
fans saying this, and we have great fans.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
And I'm not getting on the fans in no way, no, no, no,
but I'm just.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Saying, like, this is something that it's come up a lot,
like you hear.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
It on my post game show.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I got nothing but cause about sitting him, all right,
So yes, that's the post of the fans telling me
why is he out there? And I say, he played
football here a football player. We got some football playing
to do. And I can say this was it just
me was from the beginning of the game. He just
couldn't get a comfortable spot for the He messed with

(41:53):
it the whole entire game where he couldn't find that
that that honey spot you.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
You've been wearing, you want to brace. Sometimes if you just.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Mechanical, it takes away from your natural flexibility.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
And so again, like I know people are worried about
the injury, the likelihood of reinjury. I think the main
thing here is, like I think we all want I
think everybody in this building, even over there. I don't
want to speak for them. I'm just assuming that they
want the best version of Jayden Daniels. They want him
to be a franchise quarterback for fifteen years, because.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
That's good for everybody, everybody.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
The only way I know how and that I've seen
successfully this done is for people to play. You have
to play. And so this year I do feel like
there has been teams have found solutions right, they've created
quick pressures, they blitz him, they flush him to his
right and done something drop eight.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
They've done.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
They've done a lot of things that I think make
it hard for him to be successful. So what I
want is I want him to see more of these looks, yes,
so he can get better problems out right, because I
think about last year. One of the things teams they
didn't know how to handle him, right, he played a
lot of his own. He could see it. He's gonna
dice yep, they're going to play drop eight. He's going
to dice it up. They're going to bring all out.
We had Terry mccornel the perimeter. We're going to win
fifty fifties down the field, like we had solutions right here.

(43:04):
I think he's got to learn solutions for some of
the stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
For the next level. They own the next level now.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
And so I want him to more than anybody, right,
everyone talks. We talked about like the last four games
of the year, like what does that mean for the organization?
Like I want him, above anything else in this building
to feel good going into next year, to be like
I am, I got a grip on, I got a grip,
I'm playing confident and so and maybe I'm maybe I'm
crazy ten and maybe I'm crazy I know sometimes but

(43:31):
like to me, the only way to get that is
to play l I think about my own career, which
is much different than his. Obviously, my second year, Fred
Davis and Chris Cooley got bagged up, so I had
to start the last four games of the year and
talk about the best learning tool of my entire career.
They were those four games. Yeah, because I got to play,
And then next year I was ready for more because

(43:53):
I learned how to study, how to prep, how the
speed of an actual NFL game, like those things and
variables are important. So any year where he hasn't played
a time because he's been banged up for whatever reason
and they haven't had the starters out there the whole time, I.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Want him to finish grown.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Like a great example this tenn in the Minnesota game
is when they brought zero pressure right and they're running
Terry's running that speedo that big ten yard out and
Jaden does a good job by his whole time throws
that footba out there. They just haven't banked enough reps
with Yeah you know what I'm saying, Yeah to hit
that like that's the right ring, put.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Ing ough deposits in there to clear it.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
And that's one of the things that I say the
most that was I guess you can say that jumps
off the page. To me is that that's what I
see the lack thereof right now with him.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
It hasn't been out there.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, so when you're seeing some of this stuff, it's
foggy because for two months because one and then I'm
listening to the commentations after I go back and watch
the game.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I like to watch both copies.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
I watched the quiet I watched the quiet copy, and
I watched the copy with I want to hear what
they're saying. I like to hear what the commentator is
saying so I can go back and say, Okay, he
was right about this.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
They brought this guy.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
I hear them just like, oh, it's not looking the
same for him, Like, of course it's not because he's
not out there enough, you know what I mean. Like
you couldn't say that for you couldn't say that about
him when you saw him player against the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
He was willing and dealing, he was doing some of
the things that you saw him do there before.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
As soon as you get you know, not in the
game a couple of games and then you go back
out there, like it takes a while for you to
build up that confidence. It takes a while for you
to build up that report. It takes a while for
you to build up that game. That game is everything.
You can't just I can't just jump back out there.
I told you guys when I was a free agent,
I was sitting down watching football and they talking.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
About, Hey, they gonna call you week eight.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Man, I got too much pride to go out there
and put it look at Yeah, I need a while.
I can't come into the season after eight weeks and
think I'm gonna go out there and just be on
one here the gear.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
No.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
No, It's gonna take me a while to get going.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
So that's how I see it, And I think the
other thing that's really maybe I know people don't want
to hear this, but I'm gonna say it anyway, because
it's important that Minnesota defense is legit. Like I like
so as a as an offensive guy, like I like
to think, like what is the offensive game plan for
this group? They do so much hard stuff like Tanna,
I can't even tell you Fred Like it's it's like

(46:08):
I was looking. I was like, I start off with,
like my first thing is like what runs would I
like to run versus this, and even that its money
because look, bringing so many pressures, the angles are all weird,
it's unusual spacing. So there's that they play unusual fronts.
And then on top of that, they are so good
at disguising what they do. It's like you're you're watching like, oh,

(46:29):
does this guy have a tell? No, there's no tell
because it's.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
A love a dB coach because dmdbs do not back up.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
They don't they understand. I am playing forward because we're
gonna get there.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
So I was talking to somebody from Minnesota before the
game and they were like, our defense understands, Like, because
they bring so much pressure, teams can only play them
in a certain way. They can, so they play that way.
So to me, like everyone says, oh, you know, the
the the Denver defense is really good. That's normal defense.
It's a good defense in terms of problems and turn
on comatics, chematic problems. This is this is this is

(47:05):
the one, and I, you know, Ken, I never really
hype up defense like this, but this was the most
complicated defense that I prepped for this entire Let's get
some face and belts break too.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
What do we got, Fred?

Speaker 4 (47:14):
You want to say West Virginia. Since since you gave
me what's it called, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I've been doing West Virginia. I'm good.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Huddle up, team, It's time to call a winter audible,
because when the temps drop, the real magic kicks off.
In West Virginia. I think trails did crunch like Game
day turf. Sky runs for every level of a fan.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Ski runs, by the way, excuse me, that's okay because
Sky runs. I guess Sky runs with.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
My left I had clothes and went open the.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Cozy cabins that will break your budget, trade lift lines, chaos,
wide open slopes, hot cocoa breaks, the crackling fires and mountains,
dressed to in press.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
And blankets a pure white.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
So grab your squad, peck your cold weather swag, and
head to almost heaven this winter.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
That's I love that rate. It paints such a good picture.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
You guys know the words in it. You got ski,
I don't get a chance. Now we're black.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Well, but like this is like, that's that's the feeling
I have went skiing.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I was gonna like I was outfit.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Fred walked around the outfit, He walked around the damn
skis on the bottom and it's you know how you
bite it?

Speaker 2 (48:42):
You know he ain't you?

Speaker 5 (48:45):
I was.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I was not surprised by that. I was surprised that
you had.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
An I've been ice skating, have you really?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Are you good? It's the same thing as skinning skating,
very similar.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, ski, I just don't do it.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
I just haven't went skin because I just haven't got
up with anybody go do it. I want to always
say that I want to go out and.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
They have good skin.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, I think my knees now, my left knee and
we just.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Go down the nice little, nice little bunny because.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I want to get on a little boy part. I said,
I want to get on the boards, but I want
to see me now you no.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Coming down with the snowboard. It is like people break
their wrists because they don't.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
The first thing they're doing, but don't think about skin
that I that make me uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
It's stopping, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
You know, it's so funny. It's like stop if you
have to turn.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Turn to the side to stop, and when you're going
that fast sometimes like I tried to stop.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
The I will say, if you don't know how to stop,
it's very sketchy.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Especially when you get the right slope. Are you really moving? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Listen who man, he's putting you out there. Man, let
me do my reason. We got all right, goto.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
How do you feel when you switch to Geico and
save on your cornsurance? It's like finding that finding a
parking spot in front of a busy outdoor cafe where
you're meeting some old friends from college and they ain't
from Mississippi State and you're about to parallelt park into
that also tight spot, and then everyone in the cafe
stops to watch, and you nail it in one try.

(50:42):
Like the parallel parking baller. You are nobody clapped because
Fred the hater, but you know they really wanted to.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Switching and saving with Gico fiels just like that. Get
more with Gotico.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I like that one because they have little notes in here.
You guys can read these reads, but their little notes
like we're to be loud, on to be quiet and.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Was definitely And by the way, Missipi State is going
to the Dukes mayonnaise bowls, So.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I'm going to Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I'm going to Charlotte to the Duke's Mayonnaise the bowl
Really the Dukes.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Remember the quarterback. It's the quarterback always. You always read
over somebody we liveing, you know he he does.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
So but I'm just saying that the Dukes Mayonnaise Bowl
is played in Charlotte. It's a real bowl game, Like
that's what we reverted to playing in the Dukes Mayonnaise
Bowl a bowl game.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Are you there in the playoffs? In the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Not they're in the playoffs, but you know a lot
of teams turned down. A lot of teams turned down.
Bowl game game was like it's the death of the
bowl game. Like now is why should abandoned playoff? Like
this was for sure and we don't have Yeah, for
some reason, the championship games are going obsolete. Why would

(52:07):
I need to play the championship?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You know how the.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Basketball has the tournament, Yeah, and then they have the
other tournament for if you don't make it to that tournament.
Like the guys it called the lead N I T
N I T they need they need another tournament because
I think that's gonna say the balls. Because people don't
want to play in those bowl games. You got athletes
opting out because they're like, hey, I'm going pro.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Well signing days too early, Like signing day is too early, Like,
ain't no way my kids should be signing before.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
My team ain't playing in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
And that's why coaches, that's why Lane Kiffer had to
leave Old Miss because he had to be at LSU
for signing to day. They weren't because he needs to
be there, Like they couldn't let him finish coaching Old
Miss in the playoffs, Like they got to get that calendar,
right man, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I definitely it's all these changes are you know.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
They're not upgrading, that's the changes. They're not up the calendar.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
All right, let's get into this Giants preview. So I
guess we'll start with the Giants defense. And so obviously
this is a very different group. They fired Shade Bowen,
they have a new defensive coordinator. I think there's a
lot of same similar threads to what we saw earlier
in the season. So what I'll say is this group,
unlike last week, they're gonna kind of show you what
they're in. It's like we're in quarters. This is quarters,
single high, single high. The other thing that's interesting is

(53:24):
like they kind of have really heavy at least in
the New England game, like they match personnel with coverage,
so like, hey, if we're in thirteen personnel, we're in
cover three. Hey if you get empty, we're going to
be in quarters. And you could see how New England
was able to kind of pick them up up. So
to me, I look at this and I say to myself,
this is a team that rushes with four. They're gonna
play coverage. They do. And this isn't to say they
don't pressure, right, they do pressure, they bring fire zones,

(53:45):
they bring a little zero pressure. But to me, you
can see it much more clearly.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
It's not murky like to bike.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
And so I hope that Jayden plays in this game
because this feels like a game where he's gonna get right.
This seems like the game they're like, it's not easy
because it's an NFL defense, but it's like stuff that
he does really really well.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yeah, So basically he is there, Achilles Heel like he's
the guy they don't want to He's proto type that
they don't like playing again, because I.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Went back and watched the first game, like just having
Jayden in there, they rushed so conservatively, like this vaunted
pass rush.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I just watched him do that with Drake May.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I was just watched Abdul Carter just eat that right
tackle or left tackle for them a while.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Yeah, but we Campbell was out, May was throwing that
thing at you know, like he didn't care about that
rush too.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Man.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
I wonder if if Drake May's success is more so
on Daniel Michael what is his name? Mike McDonald and
mikeels Dames. Oh, you're talking about offensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Well, come on, the same coordinator they Brady ahead his
entire Think about this, Mike. He just got a quarterback
that throws like Brady but runs, So he got an
updated version of.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
When I watch him, he reminds me so much of
like Josh Allen, Like he's just a big like and
he makes everything look easy. Yeah, at least right now
he does.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, he just makes everything looks easy.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, So I think, like this to me again, like
we talked about the past rush, Brian Burns has thirteen sacks.
Abdul Carter not a lot of sacks, only four seconds precious,
but he's like he's leading the team in pressures. So
like that's again one of those things that.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I like got. He had an interception against that's and
a sack against that's that thing.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Oh he had the block block field goal, block, punt
block punt.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Block punt, and an interception.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, so he's played a good football player. Dexhe Lawrence
is not playing as well as he was last year,
but he's still a very He's one of the better
interior defensive players.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
And is a mystery. I don't know who he is.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
He's heard right or he's but I just don't know
who he is.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
As a player.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
They put him in the game late last last time
they played because he was suspended for being on the
phone or something like that. Thibodeaux or a Carterubodeau, Okay, yeah,
Tibodau is one that might be injured.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Yeah, I don't I don't know who Tibodeau to this
day right now, past rush.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah, I mean I think he's one of those guys
that is a fine NFL player. But I think it
was probably not over the draft a little bit.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah, overdraft, Now who we thought he was come that
Dreft not over drafted, but didn't live up to the
draft expectations.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Yeah, and so you know, so the defense, it's a
new defensive coordinator, but there's a lot of similarities in
terms of how they're doing stuff because you can't install
a totally new defense. So now that we got that
out of the way, which I think is again a
good group, not a great group. I think there's elements
like they've had some bad meltdowns here late in the year.
They've given up like two score leads late in games, Like,

(56:31):
I don't know what that's about.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
They've been in every game.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah, they've been in every game. Their competitive football team,
and so is this going to be a tough challenge offensively, Yes,
I just think it's much different than what Minnesota was.
Now let's talk about I think what everyone wants to
talk about, which is, oh, we know before we move
on Connolly versus Burns. I think that's something we should
probably talk about.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
In terms of matchup, Well, I think Burns is going
to see a Connolly that then grew up over the year.
The guy that he played in Week one is not
the guy that he's about to play right now. Out
of he's about to play right now. Connley is pretty
much battle tested right now. He's went through the ups
and downs at the NFL. He's seen speed rushings, he's
seen power rushings, he's seen speed, the power, power to speed.

(57:11):
He's just seen a little bit up it all. Now
now it's on even footing, I.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Think, so I can't really. I'm so curious to see
how it all shakes out for Connolly because.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I thought he'd been playing well of late.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
No, yeah, he's been playing playing great. I think it's
just like everyone remembers that first week it was as
a rookie in his first how much he struggled. So
I'm so excited to see. Yeah, it's what a cool
metric to have, like that was your first game. This
is a game late in the year.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
You know what, logan, every player don't get played out
of the week in the NFL. They first game of
the year, like free and smooth.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
People don't do that all the time. People don't do
that out You can't expect that all the time. But
gotta be ready, fresh off the bus. You can't rush
off the bus, fresh off the bus.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
You can't expect it. Kind of gave me grat and
Connilly because he ain't get player even so you were,
you was ready, You was ready off the bus. Player
of the weekend NFL defensively.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Ready, fresh off the bus, six tackles, interception, fumble, recovery,
white man.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Tell tell them, tell, tell them what you did freshman, Well,
I call it the freshman But the rookie season, the
hundred tackles I had.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Yes, him, you had were four to five picks, though, no,
I had five picks. Five picks.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
That's a lot of picks.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
That boy. They had one hundred tacks. I was like,
that was all program like.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
When you said I was just like wow, I said, yeah, defensive.
I was like, yeah, like the best certain thirty thirty
tackles by the twenty six or something.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
She had five picks. That's what you get, Grady for
you get great sick. So five picks and don't let
people catch the rock. That was my job.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Facts, how much did you wait when you played, by
the way, because I've seen some.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
My rookie year, I was literally like one seventy five
skinny skinny I'm talking about But that's why he missed
games because I didn't want that uh injury prone.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Title to be put over my head. Also, you was lucky.
Bro also was making decisions business business. Like I've seen
the Giants game. I went back and watched. It was
an older friend and just got that on the computer.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
No, that was an older friend and the younger friends
who was not making be decision. I was sticking it
in there.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
You understand me coming out of that thing with black eyed,
bloody old let's do it again.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
That's what I'm telling you. I was sticking it in there. Listen.
One time I had to hit your own Betty. No, No,
it's true, this is true.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
This is a bad body thing, just a bad body.
And I had to tackle this dude twice in one play.
I tried to wrap my arms around and I just
could not and he ran He ran me over, picked
me up and ran me.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Over again, and I still had in my hands. I
actually heard this story on Barston him one day when
one time in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Be well, Fred, you are an amazing storyteller, the best storyteller,
But you do you like to play the heads man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
He'd be sacking that like twenty five times. Told me
the same story when I met him when I was nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Listen, they true. I was always told you got to
reverberate the truth. The truth need to be spoken time
and time again. They get lost in reverberate. Yeah, it
needs to it needs to, like, the only reason we
know that George Washington had wood teeth because he reverberated.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Hey did y'all know George had wood teeth?

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
So, and we kept asking the question, that's the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Right word reverberate. Yes, hey, Jason, we look up the
definition of reverberate. It sounds right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
They mean it trickles through time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I trickles through That's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
What it is, a right. Abraham Lincoln used to keep
notes and stuff in his head.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah, I think that that is that an old wife
tellar is that that's true?

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
See, but I wouldn't know these things that the people
from the past then echoed, ain't Fred Abraham Lincoln keep
the notes in his hand?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I knew that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
What's up, j what we got? Yeah? I know it's
a word, but echo echo?

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Did Fred use that? Don't get loud? Because normally bring
whatever you say, don't get loud.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I did not use it. Don't get loud through time?

Speaker 8 (01:01:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's around. He didn't learn that, by the way, everybody,
he just learned it, all right. So that's that's the
Giants defense. Let's talk a little bit about the Giants
offense and the start of the show. Is a guy
named Jackson one Jackson Dart dark.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Did you see his heads had the uh the like
targets like Dart. Yeah, so listen, the boy got swagged.
His last name should be Jenkins. I'm just telling Jackson Jenkins, this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Is who he is. The dude got swag.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
I love how Tanna doesn't mess with you. One of
my favorite parts about the show. Tanna's not messing with you.
And then you just make him laugh, like you know,
he started laughing right there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
I was, I was, I had a stock option going Jesus,
Jackson Dart, young, jeez, he does have swagging.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
That dude got a little chain on. He got his
little little turtle neck on what you called them mock
neck mark.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Yeah, probably saw you weoring that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Listen, come on. He went the Old Miss So he
went down there and got that Mississippi swag. Oh you're
from Old miss Yeah, you know. He was the quarter back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Then he served the USC though he started at USC
but he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
And then there was this freshman. Yeah yeah he did
all he did all there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Everyone goes to a bunch of different schools.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yeah, Old missus in school that branded him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
He went to Mississippi ate that food, got that flavor
in him, and now he got the swag a ball play.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
So I think the thing about Jackson Dart is he's
got a little bit of like just wow, chaft few
to them. Man, Yeah, wow, he's gonna let that thing rip.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Song.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yes that's Josh Allen little brother.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah, they're very similar.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
They got the same little game to me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Very similar. And there's times where you're watching plays and
he's just running around back there and you're like, what
has happened? But he will just straight like run around
for a little bit and just rip a ninety mile
an hour fastball and you're like, don't throw that, yeah,
and it gets completed some Yeah, I will say they
don't have a lot of playmakers on the perimeter. Their
tight end is kind of like their big man beating guy,
Theo Johnson Penn State.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, he drops a lot of balls.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
But yeah Robinson, yeah, Wandell Robinson kind of waddle this
morning on a show That was tough for me, But yeah,
Wandell Robinson. He again, those are the two man beating weapons,
and they they position those guys, put them in good
positions to be successful. And I'm telling you man like
it's it's not always pretty offensively for him, but they, like,
like you said, for their competitive every single week.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
He the type guy with your defensive coordinator walk in
and say, all right, all the framework that quarterbacks playing,
throw that out the wonder this week. He don't play
within the ordinary framework of a football player. This guy
is a wild child. Like he's gonna do stuff off schedule.
He's gonna do stuff on schedule. He's going to run
the ball and try to run you over. This's make

(01:04:22):
him pay every time he tries to like he's going
to do things unordinarily than other quarterbacks, it is sure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
And the other thing that they do a lot of
them is say run like quarterback power and quarterback them.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
They just let him play football. And besides letting him
play football, he's gonna do what he want to do.
Because I watched the game before that bye week. I
think it was a primetime game where they had just
talked about him coming back from Andrew he had a
concussion and the man was trying to stand bound and
there was nowhere to run he was looking for. So

(01:04:55):
he told him in post game like, look, man, that's
how I play football. So at the end of the day,
he's going to do he wanted to do. He's out
there to play ball. You know, he's that kind of
guy that at the end of the day, he's gonna
find a way to win.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
It's gonna be a lot different than it was Week
one playing Russell Wilson the past.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
There's gonna be totally different than that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Yeah, this guy's so yet to bring him down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
This guy got ah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
That's a great point of comparison. And his mentor seems
to have been Jamis Winston because he they're out there
playing ball now Jameis Winston by all means this, but
like you know what I'm saying, Like it's like national dredge.
It's like a tight back shoulder with the safety coming
over top and you're like, don't do that, and he
will rip it right in and you're just like all right,
and it kind of works. It kind of doesn't like

(01:05:36):
there's a lot of variance to this offense because he's
running the ship. They're having a hard time running football too,
so it's really like him making explosive plays and then
they try to find some stuff on special teams. But yeah,
that's that's the offensive preview, Like, not a lot going
on there. They're struggling a little bit. But like, I
think that the thing that you said, Fred, that I
think is important for fans to know is they have
been in every single game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Except for this one, but other than that ever and
three and ten sticky mixed stink bowl. Listen, it happens.
It happens.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
We find our tie ourselves in these situations. You don't
want to be the stinkiest, that's the thing about. Yeah,
I can stik at the gym. I'll be a little musty,
that's fine, I'm working out. I don't want to be
the stinkingest dude in the gym. Yeah, I don't want
to be him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
This is great analysis.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
This is we don't want to be with somebody sitting
next to me the day's money like boy onions.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I was like, bruh, listen, I have been in the gym,
Like you know what I'm leaving because every dentner this
dude been in the gym six weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
So first off, that story is told in the gym.
He's never been in the gym. You've never been in
a gymp, So that story is going to gym.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
When we was working. We had to work out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Completely complete nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
He's walking in gen Mont. What y'all doing in here?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I do love Lifetime because of the steam room in
the swimming pool.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
But you ain't going away to the lifetime in those
steam rooms in those swimming po Yeah, give me too many.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Old folks because it's close doesn't mean you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
So you in there with all the old folks in
that steam room and the damn swimming pool sitting down?

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Am I walking in?

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I gotta I gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
With the old people you alive. I'm telling you that now.
I'm the dude that walk around the gym and don't
really live a lot. Just talk, just talking to talking away.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Hate. I'm here to work and you're trying to react.
My ear off.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Listen. I love to swim, that's my thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
I don't know if this is true. I got a
fish gill on the left side of my neck. All right,
I'm telling you that pod break three us. Sorry, here
we go. They say you work to find who you
are Monday through Friday nine to five. You're clocking in,
But what happens on the weekend, what happens to your time?

(01:07:54):
You could take it easy or you could use that
time to get better. In the US Army, we think differently.
Your time should be used to improve the skills you
do have to learn something you don't to push yourself
in new ways, because it's those days that truly define
who you are. That's how you make progress. That's how
you make an impact on the world around you. It's
your time. How you spend it is up to you.

(01:08:16):
It's your time. The US Army Reserve. Hoorah, Free at
the fish faielps. Boy man, he can just hang it
on him. He's hanging on Wait.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Wait, hey, I just say free at the fish failps.
Listen to me. I could have went to the Olympics
for it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Alright, got okay, you see my home so we got
hell yeah, oh hell no.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
He's a line fish.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
It's brought to you by the US Army. Be tested,
but not just on paper. Be strong and more than muscle,
Be courageous and supported by a mighty team. But all
you can be. Visio Army dot com to learn more.
And Fred's gonna tell you that he almost was in
the Army and he can beat Michael Fellows something.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Okay, that's why I'm going to the Marines, not the army.
That's my because marines hit the water first. They call
us first. I was going to the Marines because I'm
so good in water. I'm amphibious.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
All right, you and you you you fat you and
fat Joe some kid, Fat Joe food. I love Fat Joe. Listen,
Fat Joe food man. Yeah, the rapper fan. He be
telling lies that I don't know what you do my stories. Yeah,

(01:09:33):
I don't even think it'd be a lie, dude, No,
you lie.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Joe has got some stuff he done, did man, And
it's hard to believe, but it's true because the story
is told so well, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
It's I mean, the story of how you like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
And he'd be like told he just told the story
about brute O.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Mar let me say, bru Man told you like he said, brutal.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I'm talking about let's go man, the fish, the fish
all right? Hell yeah, hell now, Uh, Terry McLaurin gets
in the end zone.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Hell yeah, giants slim, I'm saying he slays the giants.
He scrolled against the Yes, he does like the cornerback
that went to Maryland.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
I forgot the playing anymore. Yeah, Terry in the milk
cart yeah, I think it's they benched him. It's flat. Yeah,
the flood is playing now, Yeah, I keep talking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah Banks is he Damn Terry ran Banks off the field.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
And if for some reason all players got their team
that they bawled against, mine was green Bay. I always
balled against Green Bay and Tanner your they tried to
make it the Cowboys, but you was more of a
Giant killer to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
What was the Cowboys. I had better games Giants. I
just had touchdowns I had.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
I had a lot of my touchdowns and that's because
I had two games where I had three against them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
So it's easy, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
So Polsting and Debo and Cardill flott Or starting and
Drew Phillips is playing in the stop. I actually think
that's a pretty decent.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Phillips is pretty good. Yeah, he don't get to love.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
And then Jamon Hollins the safety and Tyler Newman's the
safety as well. So that's a decent group of the secondary.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
But anyway, I do think Terry scores. I think, uh,
what I want, what I'd love to see is just
some exposive plays down the field of him. The last
yards have to catch, getting the end zone. If they
get something like that done, I think there's a good
shot they win this one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah, I think Terry get in there, hell yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
All right, So this last one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
He started putting their masks down, put the money in
the bag, all right, and Teter start putting.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
The man No, I'm with you, put their money in
their bad I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
With you on that, all right. So now the last one.
Does winning matter? Hell yeah? Or hell now?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Winning matters in life? Win didn't matters, period.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I don't care if it's an UM wrestler, thumb wrestling,
I don't care what sport it is. Winning is the
ultimate thing. I don't care if it's the last game
of the season and we ain't when we didn't lost sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
We want to win the one winning win win.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Everybody loves winning, everybody hate loses winning.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Easy, winning matters. I think, yes, yes, yes, like mat
and again, I do think this is what they can get.
It's not gonna be easy, like they're in all competitive games,
but I think this is one they can get. So
I can't wait to see that vision.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
The games always up for great on, always up to
say the one they can get. You don't think they
get this one. I think they can win games. I
want them to win. I'm tired of they didn't get
this one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Yeah, I mean I think I think we're on the
same page, like I just I want, you know, let's
get off the snipe of being sick time. Yeah yeah,
I think everybody is. But thank you guys for sticking
with us. It means a lot to us. Every week
you guys tune in helps us get through this this
these dark times as well. But that's gonna do it
for today show. Thanks so much, babes. The Command Center
podcast was filmed at the Big Bear AI Command Center studio.

(01:12:51):
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