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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked OV
breaking records No.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Grade eight and.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
To see on the mount rushmore of athletes who do
not give a oh my god glove and we break
down all the new rules and is the toush push
the greatest play of all time? Or is it on
that fair?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's unfair that all starts right now.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
with Fred Smoot and Santana.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Mos mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
And it's always good to be back in the studio.
We're not gonna be talking so much football today. We're
talking football today, obviously.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Now we're talking greatness today.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We talk You can tell we all got our commander
her capital stuff onto.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Most definitely, like you gotta realize OVI has made the
whole world look at Washington d C. All right, because
we watch them. We watch other teams do this all
the time. We watch other players do it, We watch
Steph Kurry, we watch other people hit these milestones. And
then everybody had to tune on, tune in to that
part of the world where everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Was at Washington d C.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
To see when he was gonna get the record high
he was going to break the record and if he
was going to break the rict.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, so obviously we're going to talk about ov quite
a bit and like his impact on DC and what
it means for hockey and all those kind of things.
But before we get into that mm hm, we got
a little bit of housekeeping just as a reminder. You know,
we do that other podcast, tick to the Draft podcast
where Jason and I do a lot of like draft
rankings and stuff like that, and Fred is a guest
on that show quite a bit. And we had a

(01:26):
bet last year and it was for who is the
best draft analysts of the two of us. Yes, and
so basically we had to pick six guys, five or
six guys, I don't remember exactly what it was. Jason
created a criteria and graded our draft picks. And then
this year we're going to see who who kind of
won that bet, who had the best ballers of that group? Yes,

(01:47):
we're going to see who won, because that's that show's
coming out on the seventeenth.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Free kiper Like the one thing about free Kiper is
and like I said, he's more of an analytics guy.
I'm more of a I tist guy. I want to
see you play a game. I need to see, touch
and feel a prospect to say what he's going to be.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I'm looking for one word. Love.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
You said that yesterday one is your show.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, well love love.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Of the game. Let's specify that love the game. Please
love the game. And so that that bet and so
basically that bet is something that I really wish I
hadn't done because I got to get someone. If you lose,
you have to get down on one knee and say
that the other person is the best draft analysts.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
You gotta bend the knee game of throne, ben the
knee to something that's bigger than you. That's what's got
to happen. And I believe it's humbling. See the one
thing about being a pro athlete, X pro athlete, we
get humbled on Sundays all the time, all right, So
for want us to be humbled because the other one
is a better draft.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Guru is appropriate here.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's very approbing about you, Fred, But I was humbled
quite a bit my playing career.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know, like he's been.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Listen know what I'm talking about? Though on this show.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
It was all the time.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, it was all the time. So make sure you
check that out. That's gonna be on the Command Center show,
which airs on YouTube, and if you're not, you should
definitely subscribe to that show if you want all the
new commander's updates and everything. So make sure you check
that out. The beat is coming up on April seventeenth,
my birthday. This is your birthday.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
It is my birthday.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
It was the day my daddy help me up like this,
say this shell be the guilt athlete.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Dude. I don't know how you do it. I don't
know how you live. I don't know how you live
just being so confident. Well, I respect it. Everyone thinks
I hate on you. I respect that.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
But well, guess what, it's an omen happy now.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
My mama did was playing pick up and run football
with my uncles, and my uncle attack of her. They
took her to the hospital if she found out she
was pregnant with me.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
That's pretty well.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
So I was almost you know, meant to do this
all right.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well, you also you got another job that you never
really participated. I think you did once you could be
a stand up comedian. I heard the story the other
day about Eddie Murphy, his first true gig, his first
real passion was music. Yeah it we said he tried
the stand up thing on a humbump and became you
know this famous star, you know, celebrity entertainers.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Last I did even time I went on stage. I
stayed on stage for like thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I had fun doing it.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Hey, yeah, man, really, Freddie Murphy, you were you like
prepped for No. I was literally doing this sports show
from a location that was next door to the U
to this the comedy club.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
And the speaker.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
They had us booming outside so he could hear us,
and he was like, smooth, you want to come in
because I was.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was joking doing the.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Show, doing the show, and he was like, you think
you can stay on stage for like five minutes?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I like give me the alcohol and no.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Whill were you like cutting up with the crowd or
did you have like something that you were No.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, I went back and forth with the chowd just
I told real story, like just people, the people's story,
and to do every day.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I can always tell me he's working on a new baby.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
He turns it on.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I mean I'm impressed every time I've been knowing him,
but too long and I come in here every day,
leave me here shaking my head the same way.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
So hey, hey try you need to.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Try it again, man, Yeah, I might need to go
on up there, man, I might beat might send Kevin
Hard home or something.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
You know, you never know.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
It's funny because you know Jeremy Green that the draft
guy was telling you about. Yeah, he started as a
stand up and you guys have very similar wow stock
yeah styles. You know, like, it's it's interesting that you guys.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I just love to be happy, man, this is what
life is about.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I love to keep a smile on my face and
I love to make people smile.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
As I was about make people smile. You know, he's
been making people smile for a long time. Tell me
Alexandrovtchkin's at the NFL all time scoring record with eight
hundred and ninety five goals, which is absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
And you want to talk about smile, he has the
true hockey smile.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, you gotta respect hockey players, dude. You gotta just
respect you.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Until a hockey player smiles at you, you don't know
the sacrifice of sports.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So one of my favorite of Etchkin clips is when
he's on the bench, you get hitting the face of
the puck and then just spits his teeth out and
then just keeps keeps it moving.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's what they do.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Like, listen, if you've never been to a hockey game,
these dudes are huge, and the agility that they skate with,
Like even when they sub to me be so fast,
like in and out the game, Like you'll be shocked
at these athletes.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And they just get bigger and bigger.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Like people want to talk about the difference in Wayne
Gretzki and Ovishkin and how they got to this point. Well,
I hate to say it. If you want to talk
about goalies, the goalies are bigger, the pants are bigger
the scoring zone and smaller, Like it's so much different
than it was when he played when scoring some other wise, I.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Ever think about what we do as football players and
look at them on skates, I think the I guess
you can say the era of difficulty in what we
do being on grass or a field turf or back
in the day's turf, I think their level is much greater.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Just holding you, some of those guys almost three hundred pounds.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
And they're skating on blades on your ice, yeah, and
stopping on the dime, running into the board checking. So
I've always been amazed by how they can carry theirself
and the impact of some of the things that they
go through throughout the night. Having to play eighty something games,
that's always kind of blew my mind.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Man, Lindsey, I if I could just play hockey one game,
I just want to put them dukes up.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's one of them sports.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
There's one of them sports where they just say, okay,
go ahead, it like come on now, you know football,
we'll push each other, but we get each other face.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You have to be I mean, you gotta be a goon.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Not even be a goon, because you could be a
gooon off the skates, yeah, but on them skates is
something different.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
You have to know how to carry yourself, balance yourself.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
You got to only use one hand because you can't
use both.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You have no balance.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Think about your son or daughters just sitting there watching
you go blow for blow with like with a dude,
like y'all.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Holding each other, y'all really just I saw one guy
get get shredded.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
The pieces man because he couldn't fight back because the
guy had him had his own he had he had
he beat him in the reach and he held on
to him. He basically brought him to come on what
he's giving it. I'm like, damn, bro, just get this.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Can can old guys tap out? I've never seen the
guy tap out. Table not quit.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Even the dude that's getting whooped, right, even the loves
up will not quit.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know, the soumber one. While you see like, uh,
there's different scales to the hockey culture. There's guys that
score goals, usually those guys that they are tough, but
they're not gonna not the fighters. And so like if
if like let's say, for example, third is the goal scorer,
and you want to mess with Fred from the other team,
like it's my job to pretend and be like you're
gonna fight me. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's the third line guys, not the first line guys.
It's the third line guys that they love the defenseman.
They love to get put them old fashion.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
So there's some in some of the stuff that like
you're talking about like there's a guy sometimes there's that
guy that does the fighting, but also like there's guys
that just got to know the hierarchy. Like there was
a I forget I was watching the Bruins game and
the defenseman doesn't fight. He's not known as being a fighter.
He's a very skilled player, but they attack the goal
scorer and he just went up and was like, right,
we're fighting now, you know what I mean. And so
just understanding that that like that weird social hierarchy and

(09:22):
a hockey games.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Why I love Tom Wheelson, Okay, because pretty well Tom
Wheelson throw it down, skates out that thing looking like
Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
They'd be like, he ain't gonna fight.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
He sent like five people voting first quarter even over
with love Tom Wilson, Baby Tom Wilson, go get down.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah. So obviously, like the hockey culture is tremendous and
like they're all good dudes, you know what I mean,
Like they just it's like it breeds this good culture.
And then they get a guy like Ovechkin in this
culture too, like he's such of the culture, he's hockey person. Yeah,
exactly right, And so like, you know, for him to
be the first overall draft pick is insane, you know,
like back in the day, he's been a league for

(10:01):
twenty years.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Twenty years, yeah, twenty years.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Crazy?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Is this the place of longevity?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
They are green twenty plus, cal Ripkin's twenty plus o.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Vechkin twenty around someplace I founding you.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
It's just something about this place is letting people play
extended careers. Yeah, and all three of these guys have
one thing in coming that most athletes, we all wish
we could they all play for one team.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
It is. It is impressive. Yeah. I think about that
sometimes too, with like my career, you could have stayed
in one spot. Yeah for the whole time, you know
what I mean, Like you could there's less to worry about.
You're not worried about.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Moving schools, none of that family, no nothing.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
But Yeah, he's a really special player, man. And it's
kind of like it's it's the high it's the high
level that he's played on. It's the consistency that he's
done it with, and it's the length that he's done
it for. And I think regardless of sport, you can
appreciate what he's done.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
He's thirty nine and had forty plus goals. This never
happen in hockey. Like Wayne Grisch's go most of his
goals early early, the later in his career, his numbers
was like nineteen, especially the end nineteen. I think it
was like twenty two like, so it just started to decrease.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
This guy's just it's just steady the whole time.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And that's what makes it crazy, especially in the time
of this new time of hockey.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
You know, it's odd about it also is if you
think back two or three years ago, they was almost
trying to basically tell them it's Curtains call from now
because it just I.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Guess the age. I guess the age or the play
wasn't the same.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
And to me, it was just because the team suck,
you know, and they were something we was do you
think trying to reveal?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Do you think it's time for ob to put him up?

Speaker 4 (11:41):
And I'm sitting there saying to myself, it's funny how
the narrative always come from someone else, and always someone
that starts that writ about you, and this.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Is your last year, this is the last time we should.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Be seeing this guy instead of just letting that athlete
to play out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Show us or prove us that he still has it.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
So that's one of the things that I appreciate more
than just him, you know. I guess you could say
being the leader now overcoming the whole thing of just
saying this guy basically wanted me to put my skates up,
and here I am three four years later. You know,
not only this, my team is going to the postseason.
You know probably what one seed, I'm the best ever

(12:20):
to ever you know got on this You got on
this ice and Squired scored the pup.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Can we can we talk about the elephant in the
room now?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I love OVI already, but then when I found out
his theme song is by one poet by the name
of Juicy j Uh, that did it for me.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
And it does hit different when you hear him singing
it with the Russian I.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I just want to see him clip. I want to
see him clown. I just want to see it listen.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
It makes me want to take him out for a
night on the time said he looks like that athlete
that it's always a cover athlete that you look at
it and say, I would love to go out on
night with this guy and enjoy it, because you could
say he just grounded like you can say he don't
take alexel Viskin to s.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I got a question for you, and what we're going
to talk about askin some more. But is he on
the mountain, rushed for more of athletes that just do
not give an f you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, he he is the epitome of I do not
I am hockey and nothing else.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I don't care about any but I hope you got
millions of dollars. Why is your teeth like that?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Because I'm original, That's why my teeth is like that.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Bands will make cut dame.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
But I think it's interesting to compare him to like
Lebron or you know, like some of these other guys,
like Lebron spends you know, Closal a million dollars a
year on his body. He's got this Russells and then
all of a sudden, you know, you got ob doing
bands make him dance and drink.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
While he drinking vodka.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
But I love it because it's it's this thing about
athletes that they everybody think we just wake up like
old boy on the internet and put out faith on
fae like they think we got this realm teen and
oh what do you eat lavender flours?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I eat fried polkchi. Like some of us don't get
like it's like, so who.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Else would be on that way? I was just trying
to think like who else would be on that John.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Daily, I would say Lawrence Taylor, don't uh Rock from
Denver Basketball, Denver Center. What his name is?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
The joker?

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Joker, the joker, Yeah, yeah, I mean, don't give he
didn't even care about the win that he didn't want to.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
It seems like he hates He's just happened to be
set fee.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
But it's also like that's the thing about him, like
he doesn't but he's so skilled. Listen, he's put in
so many can't.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Joke ABO magazine what they say about Ovie, they say,
so I was listening to the guy out that they
talk about Ovie, and they was like, you know, you
you get into this this world of athletes and you
see how special they are compared to some of the
guys that's on the ice with them, or on the
court with them, or on the football field with him,
and you say, Okay, the reason why because Jordan went
out there and put up those shots.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
And Jordan did this. Lebron put so.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Much on his body and he still go get those shots.
He's still do Covid didn't go out. He made sure
that he.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Was in the gym. They said, what, you don't know
what you feel realized about Ovi.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
He said, you go out of town on the way
trip and everybody's getting ready to do something.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
OV goes to the ring first. He goes and get
those that's working. So you might look at him.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
And say he don't give it down the way he partying,
part taking certain things, but something matters to him because
he's getting.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
That extra work with Like people don't say, like you
you mentioned the hockey thing and do it on ice
like it's such a specific sport. Woman, Maybe that like
you can go out and I can play soccer, basketball
and it's gonna help me get better at football, right,
because there's changing direction, like you got to be on
the ice and to be that level of skater, that
level of shooter, that level of kind of and when

(15:58):
you watch it play again, he's his player style has
changed a lot for he first got in the league. Right,
Like he's a little bit more of a spot shooter,
but like to understand the spacing where I need to be,
where the puck's gonna come out off the deflection like
that takes reps, reps and time and he's obviously put
in so like you look at his body, he looks
like he drinks a six pack of oh, you know,
a day, but like, but like he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Did you guys ever play with anyone here that had
like maybe a persona that was perceived a certain way
on the outside.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
So I like, I got a question. I got a
question for Fred. So when I got here, Bruce Smith. Yes,
so I heard that he would study. He had like
notebooks and notebooks of everybody every offensive line in the league.
But he would do it like in secret.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yes, like he'd go like he would not share it.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, this, but but he also like would pretend like
he didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
This is what Bruce would do.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Like, when I met Bruce, he.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Was in what we call it twilight. He was very
much doing what Oveskin doing. He was chasing the second record,
all right. He comes to me and chimp before the year.
I'm a rookie. He's like, guys, I need you all
to cover just a lit longer. I'm gonna break you
out off at the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
If I can get this wreck, I play on his side.
I'm a right corner. He'll write defensive. Then.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Now my middle lineback at the time, Miltchell was like
smook you ready to play run And I was like,
what what you what you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Like, Bruce is gonna pass rush on first down, shake
it down third down, like.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
What they run on first and he's like he's going
to swim somebody and be damn if we ain't get
right in the game. And he is swimming people and
they just running a tall, sweep eyeway. But he would
keep these meticulous notes on weak tackles and strong tackles
and if he had a strong tackle coming, He'll be like,
switching me to the other side.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm going to get this record, like he was going
to get the record.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
But that's the thing is like everyone kind of talked
to a bunch of people that knew him and they
were like, yeah, he'd always kind of do it secretly,
like on his own, Like you wondered the people think
that he wasn't like putting the time.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
But he was. He was capsuley him. Bruce was capsually him.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
And just like we were talking about at the least
that enjoyed the other side of this thing, Bruce was
one of those guys. He enjoyed the outside thing that
it brings. Because that's how he ended up running in
the circle as a rookie with Bruce Smith, Charles Oakley,
and Michael Jordan, because they ran together in the city
when I got here, so.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Here they taking me in.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I'm the youngster at the group and this is unbelievable,
and I got to watch them up close firsthand, like
enjoy the spoils of your richest you know.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Thinking about that question you asked, Jay, it's crazy because
I remember at the Universe of Miami we had Drin James.
He was like the guy that he was, like our blueprint.
He was Basically he showed us like I remember his
freshman year watching him when I was in high school.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'm like, man, that guy got something now.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
And I remember myhman year him being a you know,
a sophomore and watch how he overtook that starting position
and kind of like just like bron find to show
y'all how to get this money or how to get
to the next level. But besides that, when he came
home every year and then by the time we caught
up with him and got to the league, we all
did the same thing.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
We would go out, we would meet up at his condo,
go out, have a good time. But what we didn't
know when he break out and leave, he was going
to go work out and he did it. And at
one point when we was hanging he was the one
that wasn't drinking, like we were having a good time,
and it's now he drinks like you know, like.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Damn, he's a gambler because he whooped me out of
the fire. He would shoot pool, beat me up.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
He would be He was one of those guys that
can hang out and be around all that without partaking
and nothing and then go get that workout. So just
to answer that question, you have to make sacrifices. There
is guys that you might look at me like why
is he so special?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Because he's doing the same thing I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
It's something he's sacrif he sacrificed it somewhere down the line,
something that you might not be sacrificed. Yeah, And that's
like that just one guy that came up in my mind.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I feel like I got a couple more guys.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I can we want to talk about guy that beat
the streets as much as they beat the field.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You got one representative who I love, Mike. I like something.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
I don't think his perception what what they said about
him was real. You know what I'm saying, Like what
he's what he did work hard. He did work hard.
He always worked, but he did that and party, Yeah,
you know what I mean. So he was a guy
that you saw him working.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Part I got a question for you because the other
one that I always wondered about was DeShawn Jackson, because
Dashawn would act like he was like asleep in the meeting,
like he wasn't paying attention. Hoodie up, pulled down. But
he never anytime you asked him a question, he like
I always do. I knew the check versus cover too,
or I know the what a thunder looks like versus
all these different or he never made a mistake in practice.
So like I don't know if he was studying because

(20:51):
you were in the room of them. I don't if
he were studying on his own.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
But he was a guy that again, good question because
I never really personally asked him or look, but I
knew he always was sharp.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
He knew.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's what I'm saying, Like, there's guys like that where
he he's like he.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Kind of broughtly he was here.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
He's like I don't really care, but like, obviously you can.
He's doing somebody and you're doing something.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
And so guys know how to be prosed. I mean, guys,
just you know you could say that about cp ce.
P was a guy that see P wouldn't come to practice,
see people come to practice them flat shoes on. And
you knew he went in a fag of man and
and and you knew what he did the night before,
and you knew what he's finna do after you leave practice,
and then he would go out there and get you
one eighty two touchdowns and you'd be like, Bro, this

(21:30):
dude is special.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
And that's why I say to you, know, this is
how you know that you and you're in the league
of you, in the league amongst guys that everybody's not
wired the same you. Guys, Bro, you can't do what
I do and I can't do what you do. So
therefore find who you are. And you see guys searching
for themselves, and they looking at guys like d Jack,

(21:51):
Drin James, Deshaun because they're doing different things.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
They try to follow, they try to mimic it. You know,
they always told you, tell them, why are you coming
practice so hard because I had a practice.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
I want to feel like I'm in a game because
that makes me ready for the game. If I'm sitting around,
I've done it before and played well.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
But it just.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Hate to not know what's going on. They have to
be bombarded with that, you know, come game day.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
To that point. Like I bumped into one of my
old tight end coaches at the Combine and like he
was with an offensive line coach that I had when
I was in Atlanta, and they were kind of shooting.
You're kind of you know, going down memory lane whatever,
and he goes, you know what, man, if you had
ever had a drink alcohol, you never would have played
in the end of Like, my process was different than
a lot, Like I was every meal, playing down every
workout plan, every inch I could possibly get, because you know,

(22:38):
God gave me what I got. It was pretty good,
but it wasn't as good as Santana or friend Smooth,
and so like it's just interesting. Everyone's kind of got
to find their way.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, got to find will.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
But it's I think if you would have had a sip,
you would have turned into animal.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I think I think I think he'd been Jermany shocking,
like just a simple that.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
See I should have got big Mac McKinney and we
should have took you out.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
For a night on the town. It showed you what
you really are.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
No man, keep logan, how logan? Damn slip screens. You
see your logan coming coming up like damn logan. Block
of two or three guys. It's a big old band,
not a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Of athletic juice, but it's gonna try hard for you.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I think if you had some you know, just a silpace.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Do you think it's crazy though? This is this is
we're getting way off. But I think some of the
best players I played with were a little there were
a little bit liability, you know.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
What I'm saying, Like you did not have if you
got a football team, not the choir section.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Everybody with everybody can't be the choir section where you was.
It has to be my new you cannot.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
You gotta have a couple of guys that you're like,
I don't know if he's gonna show up to the
game tomorrow, but if he does, if he does, he
is going to show out.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
You gotta have the ballance.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
That's how I knew how different we was. When we
had On, I loved.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Going to death.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
See, I'm one of those guys that can appreciate coachs
on because On told me I gotta get you the
ball when you're a receiver, and the coach understands because
he was a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I'm getting you the ball. So I was cool.
But the only thing that he that I say, I
say I can kind.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Of draw the line with when he wanted all us
to be, Hey, don't you want to be more like
that guy?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, I'm cool with him being him. You can't ask
everybody to join that. You gotta have different circles.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
And it was funny because, like we always show these
stories about the locker room. You're gonna get the guys
who go to the Bobby study over there. You're gonna
get the guys over there who just rocked out they
want to do. You're gonna get the guys who are
talking about the stocks and the bards over here. You're
gonna get the fresh, smooth circle over here that last night.
And then you got certain guys like myself that can
navigate in every circle, you know what I mean. So

(24:49):
you have those guys that I could I could get
into I'm a commellon. I can fit in with everybody,
but you can't get the whole room to be the same.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, you don't have that.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
You got to have different characters on your team, and
that's what makes you win. We allow you to go
out there and have a team that you have successful teams.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I mean, yeah, I think that's like, that's what makes
a good coach. That's what makes a good leadership is
understanding that, Like he's a little bit different, You're a
little bit different, but I know how to speak to
through happened. That was really interesting kind of detour there
one last question about of action though, Well we ever
see anybody like him in DC again?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yes, I just named you three d did the same.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
No, No, what I'm saying so like, so what I'm
saying it's like he So you mentioned Dale Green, Yeah,
I forget what you mentioned Darye Green. And so what
I'm saying Ov is maybe the second best hockey player
in the history of the NHL. And so like it's different, Like.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
You're saying the hierarchy is different.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, Like he played for twenty years, Like he's a
first rout Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Like dominate his sport, he said, And I got.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
One in mind. I got one that could maybe do it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I think that's playing right now, that's playing right now.
I say this, I said, will be. I just can't
give you no name.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Well, James Wood in baseball right now plays for the
National Seat.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
He's six', five two hundred and thirty.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Pounds.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Damn he whips that bat like a.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Maven but he also runs like he's five, three like he.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Is a an old dealing.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Cruise like we got some young dudes out, here AND
i gotta go to. Baseball, yeah let's. Go i'll go
all the. Time you Got Jaydon. Dallions people gonna say
that's a that's a good, view like he.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Might actually that was the ONE i was thinking of
BECAUSE i. Watched i'm like what he did last year
was so. Special caw we handles himself off the off
the field is so, special like there's a there's a.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Chance AND i got an if in.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
There if The wizards continue to stink like they, stink
we can.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
Get Cooper american Flag please don't try to name Him
american who ran over and flag. Boy we were talking
bad about him right. Now, Listen Duke gloss that's. Fine
but this dude showed that he is the. Truth and
if we get him in this.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
He's like seven to eighteen.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Eighteen and you, know we talked like we never meet
anybody From.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Maine he From, maine all, right so him and his
three cousins that all live In, maine go come on.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Down.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Listen it's some guys THAT i think, young good. Talent
we don't know the future with.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
It say you just it's and it's so. HARD i
like the question because again he's he's like this is
like he's like The Lebron james of. Hockey, yeah, like
actually that's a really good COM i was gonna ask this.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Question this is the.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Question now thats with With ovi Surpassing, Gretzky, gretzy Is grettie.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Still the number? One like they're gonna Say gracie still number?
One because he.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Is really WHAT i want to know Because i'm, like,
now is he the greatest hockey you know?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Player?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Always they?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Will?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Boy you, know how how how does it so does it?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Lie you know WHAT i? Mean When jason looks this,
up you're gonna understand how good? Rescue so that this
double to assist a couple of, things a couple of.
Things so, basically like goalie play has gotten way, better,
right the game has gotten. Better it's just a better.
Quality but, Also gretzky did that with a flat, stick
so like you know they curve the sticks, down he

(28:28):
did it with a flat. Stick so the control that
he had with that stick is.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Incredible so it's almost like the guy who can control
the messy, him you.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Know, yeah and he, was and he was so far
ahead of the game at the. Time like it's, hard
it's hard to. Quantify i'm trying to give a good.
Comparison it's like who.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
It's like when it's he, know he Was Wilt.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Chamberlain that's, right that's. Exactly it was.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Unfair i'm taller than, You i'm faster than.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
You don't the ball how many points go to day
hundred like, That like the game doesn't.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Fit i'm like so outside of the, game it's so.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Big and the only thing that Made gritzky to me
all the Points i've heard over the last month is
everybody always goes to his assists saying that he was
a more rounded player and ovi was a goal score.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Hunk which is not. Bad But i'm just saying, that
and the other thing About, gretzky and this is probably
how you feel About jordan to a certain, extent is
you don't have modern hockey Without, Gretzky like he changed
the way he changed the, game just like How jordan
changed a little. Bit, Yeah like it's it's that type of.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Before your time because you don't remember this Man tanne
do the.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Cartoon oh, yeah Crazy, Griskin Bo jackson And Michael joy
on the conto introduced.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Us, yeah BECAUSE i, KNEW i knew nothing about hockey
UNTIL i watched.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
That we Got Jason gregski's assist he has one, thousand
nine and sixty. Three What sovechkin has seven hundred and
twenty four right, now so one, thousand, yes, thousand nine
hundred and, sixties so he has.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Like two thousand.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Thousands, yeah he.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
His points are two, thousand eight hundred and fifty, seven.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Which is so in, hockey just safe to say in,
hockey that's not going to ever.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Go in, hockey assist is like a habit of.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
You kind of a, point like the way you kind
of like you how many like so when you say
how many points you? Got his assists and.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Okay, yeah so this is what SEPARATES. Dm that's what
do that's one is the. Book, yeah so he was
he was A Lebron.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
James he was very Much. Lebron he Was. Lebron he
was More Magic johnson Than Michael.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Jordans But lebron has has more assists than a lot
of those guys who who was considered.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Legal, yeah, yeah, Yeah so Obviously ave is really really
a special, player really special for the. Area really excited
about what he's done and.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's my guy kind of what it means for grade, eight.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Grade, eight grade. Eight, okay so now let's talk about some,
football all. Right so the kind of kind of a
slow time of year for. Football so we got rule
change slow time because he just had THE Nfl owner
owners meeting and they talked about rules and so got
to go through some of the new, rules talk about
what we think of, them and we're going to finish
with the rule that we think is the most interesting
that was actually pushed to a later time to talk.
About oh, right let's talking about the first. Rule playoff overtime.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Rules.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Now playoff overtime rules are now the way that they're
going to handle regular season.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Overtime The Josh allen rule is WHAT i call. It it,
is it's the.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Job they only did it because the guy can get
on the field because one patrick.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Bone BUT i think they always did this because they
wanted the games to be. Short do you think this
affects that at?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
ALL i think it does because IF i know, Offensively
i'm gonna get that.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Chance, yeah it can stand the.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Game you, know at one point in, time when you
got in, overtime you didn't care about not getting the
ball because.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Whoever win the.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
COURSE i, Mean i'm just, saying but, nowadays LIKE i
want that ball BECAUSE i want to get a chance
to be you, know the score and getting them all
out of. There, now you, KNOW i think changing this
rule back gives you that the opportunity To, okay who comes,
down who cares.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
To get the.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Ball let's reset and let's go out there and have
a nice game plan because regardless of what they, do
we're gonna get we get the.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Ball you think it matters in the regular, SEASON i
don't really think it, matters, Honestly like tie is a,
tie you know WHAT i. MEAN i don't, know this doesn't.
Matter just make it more.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
FAIR i THINK i think it does because now gambling
is so big the, game AND i think that drives
the think about. It they're putting the chip in the
ball this, year so now the chain, game you know,
what we used to see, it, LIKE i don't think
us we have never played a game without a chain,
game none of.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Us it's in five, year that chain ain't gonna be.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Gone, Yeah SO i don't want to see that game
BECAUSE i want to still see these see them walk out.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
There and, say first.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Down it's something to, that you know What i'm saying
some to, That AND i just don't, know even with
the chip in the, ball how you're gonna spot it
in a.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Pile so they so what they're doing is it's still
a manual. Spot this is also a rule that they voted.
On we're gonn talk about every we're talk about, Now
so basically now it's still a manual. Spot they're just
digitally measuring the. Chains, yeah does that make. Sense so
what they're doing is they're essentially just trying to speed
up the. Game so instead of having to like call
the chains, out here's the, spot you just buzz the.

(33:16):
Referee hey they're this.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Short but it's nothing like the exhilaration you get when
they try and get a standing in the ditch, shorty
we own, Defense And.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm, like are we just old men? Though is that?

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Why you Know tennis where they have like the eagle
thing where like the. Ball, yeah, yeah do you think
they'll like introduce that for entertainment? PURPOSE i have to
like just a slow pain of like a digital.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Chain i'm about to throw up In, Yeah i'm about
to throw up in my. Mind you play techno in a,
GAME i.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Know you know when they you, know where they put
the rule, IN i was, like, oh this is gonna
be good because they'll speed the game. Up BUT i
forget because the game is about, drama, yes, right and
it takes away some of the.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Drama.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah as a, fan that's why this overtime rule is
amazing BECAUSE i want to See jayden touch the ball
and it, YEAH i don't want to see. It like
even though defense is just as important as, offense and
like your defense can go win your, game still it's
more fun to See jayden out, there, right entertainment, Wise.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Like, YEAH i say it's more of a, dual then
it becomes more of less made a bit man.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Win, yeah AND i, think.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah SO i think the overtime rule it adds to the.
DRAMA i think the measuring rule takes away from the
drama a little. Bit BUT i think they're also trying
to speak the game, up WHICH i. Appreciate All, right this,
ONE i think is really interesting AND i want to
get your take on. This tandada touchback is moved now
to the thirty five yard, Line SO i think they're
trying to promote more kickoff. Returns, honestly so you think,

(34:41):
good bad and.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
DIFFERENT i like, it but at the same, time when
you have a guy with a huge, leg it's, like,
damn so Now i'm telling you to kick it, shorter
you know What i'm, Saying.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm gonna take a little bit.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
From what we got you here for just because we
don't want to give them that thirty five yard, line you,
know and get them a touch. BACK i still like
BECAUSE i feel, like you, know they changed the whole
style of the kick return for that reason for us
to see more, kickoffs kickoffs being, returned and to, ME
i think that's a part of the game that eventually

(35:12):
we're talking about the, chain you, know being taken away from.
Us it's gonna be guys losing the job if we
don't see guys out there returns, kicks you know WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Mean, so AND i actually like sair to. Me and
ACTUALLY i enjoyed the new kickoff rule last. YEAR i
thought that was a, good good decision for the. Game
BUT i also like it wasn't the punishment for a
touchback wasn't. Significant it was still to the twenty. Five
so now to move to the thirty. Five now there's
a schematic game plan element associated with, it where, it's,
hey we got to be smarter about how deeper kicking.

(35:41):
It we're gonna kick it, High we're going to do directional. Kiss, yes,
well and SO i think that'll be. Again it Adds
it adds drama to a play that Was.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
YEAH i was just want to say safe.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Interests you have a week kickoff, team like you find
out throughout the year that we're still giving.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Up we're just not going to yeah that we would
like to.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Do you still, say, Man i'd rather get a touch
back on percent and see them guys at thirty, five
you know WHAT i, Mean, like it's gonna be teams
that's going to see, say, MAN i rather opt out of. That,
yeah put them at thirty. Five y'all defense good enough to.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Stop BUT i think that's what you look at last,
year like we did not have a strong kickoff. KICKER
i think the guys had a good job kicking field
goals when they had, too but like they built the
kickoff team.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
So that they NOT i can, say ain't some, breathe so.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Like we're ready For, yeah this commanders like it's good.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Rule SO i Know i'm jumping in a. Lot i'm just, thought.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Do you think a.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Rule changed like, this and like the way that we're
doing kickoffs now help or hurt somebody Like Brian mitchell
getting into The hall Of.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Fame, NO i think it helps Be mitch because just for,
Example ickler Watching choler this year and we had a
debate before it started last year what position do we
move back here to? Return and we was like it
gotta be your third down running, back like it's more
built for running. Backs now didn't receive, us but it
didn't stop turping from Chicag dallas from sailing at. It

(37:00):
SO i thought he was. EXCITING i thought he brought
some more drama to. IT i actually liked, it.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
BUT i think it, ALSO i think it helps Be
mitch stay. Relevant, yeah you, know because it's not you're
not talking about, like, oh remember back when we used
to do. Kickoffs how crazy was?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
That?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Oh You mitched who? Came, like now you see the
impact that he had every single, Week like it was
starting to kind of, wane, right kickoff returner not a big.
Deal but now you see why that position deserves to
be like The Devin, hesters those, guys why they deserve
to be in that. Situation so the other one that's
interesting is replay assist on objective. Plays so this is
a little bit. Confusing so, basically if there's a if

(37:37):
there's a, penalty they can pick up a.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Flag yeah they.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Can they can say way correct them, Sales, yes they
can correct, themselves WHICH i actually.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Would have to us like three times last. Year, yeah
and it was it was against. Us it wasn't for
us because it was a couple of. Times we can easily, say,
hey go back and look at, that you, know but three.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Times in a.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
GAME i remember being at the game vividly sitting there
frustrated Because i'm, like, bro how can you change that?

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Call one person was in like seven accidents Zach. Ertz
every time look, Up i'm, like remember to catch for
the first, down and they were, like he ain't getting
to the First i'm.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
What are you talking?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
About that about an interesting?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
One that play cost us more so last year than
it was you, know you know when it came to helping.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Us, honestly this is a Total this is a total.
Aside but if you have a chip in the ball
and you have a chip in the, sticks you should
be able to digitally say that get rid of the,
SPOT i think is the thing THAT i want to.
See Right if that if that ball has a tracker
in it and there's two of, them one at each,
end and you know exactly where the ball, is they
can figure out where the knees, Down like that's how
they should spot the. Football we're at a point now

(38:42):
where digitally we can do it and it would eliminate
all this kind of subjective whatever like still bring the sticks,
OUT i don't, care but this the subjectivity in those
big moments of the ball SPOT i think Needs that's
something THAT i think THE nfl can work on. CORRECTING
i know it's a, sign but so, YEAH i think
that's because the other thing about that rule that we
just talked about replay assistant objective plays is they cannot

(39:04):
assign a. Penalty you know What i'm. Saying they can
take they can pick a penalty. Up but let's, say for,
example they go back and review something and see something
and they see a bad, HOLD i CANNOT.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I, TOTALLY i totally understand which you can holding on every,
Place SO.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I can't give. That SO i think that'll be. INTERESTING
i think that'll be. HELPFUL i think anytime you can
make it a little bit more transparent for the, fans
like anytime a fan see something ON, tv BECAUSE i
will SAY i have a lot more empathy after watching
from the sideline last.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
YEAR a lot of.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Stuff, happens a lot of stuff's, happening and people miss stuff,
Right and so to give those referees an opportunity to
kind of save face make that, CORRECTION i think is
the right. THING i.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Think also that's the reason why you have certain guys
watching certain, things you know WHAT i. Mean you have
people In New York i'm talking about like the rail
on the field watching the whole, game like you probably
watching a game like we are on the. Sideline they.
WATCHING i gonna watch the. Ball i'm allowing wash back?
Here who's holding on this?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
That you know WHAT i?

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Mean so you have guys and spots of the field
where they shouldn't miss some of the things that's in.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
There i'm really glad you brought that up BECAUSE i
remember talking to alignsman AND i was, like what are you?
Watching because LIKE i was trying to figure out who's
gonna call me for? Holding really that's WHAT i was
trying to. Do and he was, Like i'm actually watching
the first receiver and the end mant line of. Scrimmage,
yeah so it's even more narrow than the thin, Right
and SO i do think that's a good. Point but,
again they're. People they're going to make. Mistakes, Ye so

(40:23):
this gives, Them this gives the fans and them an
opportunity to make it. Right next, ONE i don't know
HOW i feel about this. One thursday night games can
be flexed on shorter. NOTICE i hate. It it used
to be twenty eight, days now was twenty, one AND i,
agree that's WHY i hate.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
It thursday night games already adrid for players and now.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
They So, jason they could be flexed To thursday night
flex away from flexed away From thursday.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Night it just says flexed on shorter. Notice so my guess,
is like.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
That is to say that you don't have A thursday night?
Game do they care to put me in A thursday night?

Speaker 1 (40:57):
GAME i Think i'm hoping that's what it.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Is put to pull somebody, out you gotta put somebody.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
There like here and go like all, right let's forget the.
Players all, right the players already hated. It there's no.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Secret what about? It If i'm the fan that has
been playing in, this.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
That's a great.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Point And i'm talking ABOUT i then brought my Travel,
YEAH i, HED i got my, hotail and all.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Of a, sudden my team play On. Sunday come, On
like at one point it has to be some coin
newity to. This NOW i know the networks is the
year go.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
On one team is better than you thought it, Was
one team is worse than you thought it.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Was we picked a bad game With sland it. Stick
so my question.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Would, be you know how we always get that one
game on our schedule that they SAY.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Tbd will they have that already part of the.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
That thursday night saying WELL tvd so meaning telling us
us fans don't don't go out there by that ticket
yet because we not we're not. SURE i, mean you
have to give them some kind of leeway in. THAT
i mean because if you just say we're locked in A,
thursday we see our, schedule and then you're getting in week,
five That thursday night game you had in week, eight
it's changed now because of the way you.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Plan, yeah you, KNOW i think it's.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
CRAZY i think about, this some of these cities that
these teams are in a destination, Cities like somebody gonna
look at it and, say, no this is a. Trip
we're just gonna happen to go to the. Game let's
just Say i'm going to The Raiders kids In city,
game this In. Vegas i'm going To vegas as a.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Vacation And i'm going to the. Game, Man i'm going
to the. Game and now it ain't no.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
GAME i, mean even like even if you want to
do like an historic city Like, lambeau, right and all
of a sudden there's no game right and it's at
a different time or the change is. Different like it's
this to.

Speaker 8 (42:37):
Me, man get you to see some, Cheese, YEAH i,
say get some meal walking Fly i'm up There this
one feels to me like a, mistake like a, network
a network.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
That came from the higher, home like the money talks
a lot.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Of some of. THESE i really like. This there are
some of.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Those they got to put their shoe in their. Mind
they'll go back and, say you know, what this don't.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Work, yeah it.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Work but it's like some of these feel like they're
actually helping the game. FLOW i know the. Game this
one feels LIKE i want to make more. MONEY i
want that work to make more. Money and those it's
a billion dollar, industry like these are some decisions that
have to be. Made, okay this is a fun. ONE
i don't really care about this, one BUT i think
Maybe fred And santana, do maybe some fans. Do alternative
and throwback uniforms can be worn more. FREQUENTLY i love.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
IT i love that you look, good you look, good feel,
good play, good get paid. Good they're just the wind.
Goes AND i like some of the. THROWBACKS i. ENJOY
i think it makes you think about the older players
WHEN i see the younger players wear.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Them. UH i always hated the league telling us what we.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Can't, wear you, know or when we'll win to weird
like don't tell me THAT i.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Need you're talking to the father of The Color. Rush
we spend this money on these. JERSEYS i want TO
i want to bring them out.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Tonight like LIKE i, said you, know AS i gently,
SAID i started The Color.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Rush you ain't.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
You was on the team that wore that war was
the person that as Coach, gibbs but can't.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
We wait this burgery At by And? Burgundy and he was, like,
yes before you know, it the next year it's A
Color rush. Week that's All i'm, saying.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Dude fred reminds me of like that. Purse like there's
like a subtle person in history that has a big,
effect you, know Like fred Got Joe gibbs. Back fred
started the Color.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Coast and you just get it all stirred.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Up.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Right did you guys have a favorite jersey that you.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Are, BURGAY i like the when we was playing ill Last.
YEAH i like the little yellow. Pants so it didn't
matter what jersey putting on top of. HIM i preferred
to burgundy on, top but we wore the white and.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
They was just a Smooth SO i like when we
wore the uh oh that it was a different type
of burguney with the spear on the hispory on him
and it was like the gold pants were like brown,
round that's What that was one of my favorite. Throwbacks that's.
Yeah SO i enjoyed red rocking those right.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
There and you've been a fan for a long, time
did you have a? Favorite, yeah that's my favorite About.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Yeah but the thing that they haven't here is alternative,
jerseys so like it doesn't have to be implemented this,
year but this is a good time to just try new,
Stuff like have we ever done like maybe it will look,
terrible but we ever done all?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Gold or Like.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I've been to gold for, Honey i'm talking about. Gold
i'm talking about gold.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Jersey i'm talking about fourteen Carry bruno mar singing when
we come out.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
HERE i like in there, though that's just.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Me we actually wore the gold helms one year THAT
i think that was two thousand and.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Six but did you go go?

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Back we go pants white jerseys and go him now
remember that with THE r, right BECAUSE i got a
picture of me like this doing the freaking first down
with THE.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
R i remember.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
THAT i don't remember any of the, picture all, Right so,
jerseys that's, fun all, right, now let's get into risk
it for the, biscuit and it's the touch push and
push it to this moment because it's a touch. Push,
yes gotta like and that is presented By marsha Bo Lennon.
Agency you're a partner in risk And people's. Strategies. Okay
so basically they're trying to get rid of the touch

(46:12):
push and it was opposed by The Green Bay packers
and they decided to table it for future owners. Meetings, yeah.
Okay and so there are three arguments around, it AND
i kind of think they're all except for. One they're
all kind of bush. LEAGUE i kind of think they're
all bush league except for. One so what is it's
unsafe it? IS i don't think first of, all is
it more unsafe than Anything it's.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Written in the rule.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Books no offensive player can hip another offensive player move
forward by Pushing neil, Again.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
So to, me that gets to the second point. UNSAFE
i don't think it's any like, like if you want
to talk about kickoffs are, Unsafe catching a ball over
the middle field is, Unsafe but it's part of the, game,
Right AND i think that's Where but the thing that
you said is that it's. Unfair, yeah there's some steam.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
There it's not.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Fair there's. Steam it's.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Unfair and to me to pile up that many people
in this little, area it's unsafe to, Me like y'all
don't feel like my defensive my detacker is going through.
It but me as a defensive, Player i'm seeing them
get off the ground, Slow i'm seeing them get their
nick bent up in.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
There i'm seeing them for the. OFFENSIVE i look at
it like.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
This if you're going to say that you're going to
emphasize or say put an emphas on safety in this,
league then you already know this place shouldn't be allowed
because you're saying that what these guys are fighting for,
now a lot of these retired men is fighting for
when it comes to concussions and all that. Stuff put like,
this you can just play football as a d line

(47:44):
the offensive lineman and be one of those guys that's
sitting out there SAYING i need some, MONEY i need
something Because i'm not. Right so why would you allow
this on top of what you're already fighting for now
trying to not give those guys that's saying that that
they don't.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Deserve that they're going to deserve it now that they're
going to.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Deserve so this is we're getting a little technical here
with like. Technical so WHAT i say this too is
like when you play in the, line WHICH i did
right for a long, time every play is it is a,
collision like is a big helmet to, helmet like the thing,
Right and so in some ways when you're, CLOSE i
got a sneak for, example Like i've never done a toush,

(48:22):
bush but on a traditional quarterback sneak it's actually a little,
bit a little bit less impactful because you're kind of
like working an.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Edge.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Now the way they do it for the, Center i'm
sure is a, nightmare, nightmare nightmare for the center because
he's he's actually tunneling underneath. There So i'm sure that
does not feel. Great, Yeah but but on the, whole
the sneak for the perimeter guys tends to be a
little bit, easier you, know, tackle you, know even. Guards
but SO i Understand tannis point, Though LIKE i understand your,

(48:50):
point but to, me it's if you want, to like
iso like an io play with a full back of the,
linebacker it's probably one of the most unsafe things you can.
Do and it's really, unsafe but it's it's kind of
part of the fabric of the, game, Right and so
that to me is like where this kind of lies
just from like AN o line, perspective like this is
people run quarterback. Sneaks it's a very physical, play all.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Right this is WHAT i lean on then unfair part of.
It more, so this is WHERE i. THINK i feel,
like if you're going to allow somebody offense to me to,
push then defense would be to do the.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Same.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, yeah to, me it is R rugby is not
a popular. Sport nobody watches, rugby and.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
You brought this it's not as popular, Here.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yes you, do because you're ogre check this. Out that's
why you don't care about the test push me as a,
player IF i just went three, plays if we stop you,
out we stop you.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Enough so this is where this is WHERE i think it's.
Beautiful let me to explain. Why because THE nfl is
an offensive driven, league right and all of a, sudden
you've given the offense an opportunity with a seventy eight
percent efficiency rate to stay on the field and keep
that offensive drive. Going you can See Jalen Hurts, MOORE
i can see A. J Brown moore AND i get
to challenge the defense in a way that's never been

(50:06):
challenged before in THE. Nfl so it is an exciting.
Thing y'all got enough. Rules it's meant for y'all.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
ALREADY i, mean, off they got us as deep as
the bets we might.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Have well just go out there and turn around and Get.
Burt guess what this.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Is this is for, me an offensive, Player tanne, Right
i'm an offensive. PLAYER i like the offensive. Football be
better on first and second, Down, fred be, better be,
better make it a third and make it a third and.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Five well you just run ba boas See ken the
best MAN wi how about you run?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Off? Runoff what about you just do a regular quarterback?
Sneak how about you do? That you know? What let
me say, this we was better on fourth bound Than
neil if.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
We never ran a too. Push that's a great. Point
AND i think that's the. Thing that's the other thing
about this play is there is an element of skill to,
it because everybody in the league could run this, Play
but who runs it the?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Best running they got they got the.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Best they've got a great, Line they've got a great.
Line they've got a big. Quarterback but if if if
it wasn't this is the, thing if everyone was doing,
It i'd be, like, yes it's, unfair but they're the
only team that's been able to they're bad at.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
It we're just coming about. It but that's the.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Point it's they have they have found an edge and
they've gotten good at this. Play and know if it
was if it was if.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
It was out physively. Rotten AND i just feel, like
fear is.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Fair you feel What i'm.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Saying i'm all day.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Fear if the defense is not allowed to, push the
offense should not be allowed to.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Push that's that. Is See i'm about to Go, Frank
yeah about. You i'm about to Go.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Frank but it's it's to, me it's not it's it's
in some ways it's a it's they figured out how
to do it better than everybody, else and it's fishing everybody.
Off now it's not. Fair and so that's WHERE i
said two of those three things are. TOTAL i think
the fairness, One i'm one hundred percent on board.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
With hats off to. Them trust.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Me last YEAR i had NO i had no problem
with seeing them. Efficient it's not trying to find a
word FOR i had no problem with seeing them be
as productive with that play, then you know as they.
Were you, KNOW i MEAN i feel like every time
they lined up And i'm, like, oh it's gonna be a,
touchdown you, KNOW i.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Just gonna be a first.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Down my only stance on.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
It LIKE i said, before how could you tell us
on the other, side If i'm a defensive, player.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
THEN i can't get behind my linemen and push. Them
it don't make. Sense so, look hats off to.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
You you guys went out there and found a play
that's going to put you over the top of everybody.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Else wish they did and didn't got to think about.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
It, also you're talking about us just being more efficient
fourth down than them doing we. Did we also one
of those teams that stopped them multiple times at their own,
dayes see What i'm. Saying so they was finding different
ways to do it against.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Us because we were stopping.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
It but you just have to if you're saying this
game has to be, fair trying to make everything fair
enough for us to do things, defensively, offensively special teams,
wise right, there that's where you draw the, line because
it's not.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Fair i'm about.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
To go To gainesville and get this four hundred pounds
the touch pushed off forwards his name watching the big,
dude there's four hundred and twenty two, pounds four forty.
Years i'm going to bring him in here And i'm
gonna hit him in the neck with An.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Olympics that's been watching.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Him, yeah it.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Turn into like man like four on foone And i'm gonna,
say you got four plays every time we Play philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
And when you come in, here just don't. Move, hey
what if we do draft that?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
GEAR i mean'd be a. Creation but maybe this is
What i'm.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
SAYING i, guarantee, y'all somebody we need to talk today
after the. DRAFT i guarantee he get drafted by a
team in THE nfcs for that one, play for that one.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Purpose refrigerator get in. There they're gonna have a.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Refrigerator get in there and stop then you know that.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Friche the thing is THAT i like when you go
back and watch all The tousch, pushes the people that
are the best at stopping it are super, Quick Like
theron's really good at. It, Yeah Aaron donald the, punch
they're beating the center and they're quick swimming the second.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
And they're not big fall the details because there's actually.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
It's because they're beating the one the one guy you gotta,
be the one guy you got to, be and that's.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
The center because we don't seen this where he'll snap
the ball and his first initial plunch doesn't work and
then he gets pushed to the side with the guard.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
And that's where now they pushing, him and it's just.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
CRAZY i Think Tom brady was the best quarterback that
that that did. Quarterbacks he would get it and find
the right little creast that he can just slide. Through
and so WHEN i watched them do, It i'm, Like
tom did it for years without all this mess with that.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Very good and he's tall what you expect him not to.
Be he was almost already going forward as soon as
as soon as he.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Got that, ball he was already beating the defense off
their dog on you, know jump up the.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Ball so, no BUT i just feel like it won pair.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Man and LIKE i said, before you gotta get statically is.
Ug you gotta give Up philly.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
To stay on the field, Though and that's, good but
it's not. Good it's good for.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Me we don't Keep john don't let ya man have my?
Touchdown how is my rushing? Touchdowns was from?

Speaker 1 (55:26):
This it is crazy when you look at his, cutups it's,
like oh, man he's got ten rushing touchdowns and you're like.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Nine are like?

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Nine So jason did a good job and he always
does a great. Job but The eagles have scored twenty
seven touchdowns and recorded ninety two total first downs the
past three years on. This they shored eleven touchdowns with
thirty two first downs during Their Super bowl run in
twenty twenty. Four that's a lot of. Touchdowns eleven, touchdowns
a lot of. Touchdowns AND i WAS i was trying

(55:56):
to figure. OUT i was, like why Was sean Because
shawn's like heading this? Up why is he so pissed about?
It and it's like because they lost in the?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Playoff, Cat i'm ben, sake, listen somebody guys speak up about.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
This this travish, mockery this is is not part of
it On so was It Green bay or The?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Rams Green bay through that hate through?

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Boys you know, What I'm i'm gonna be, like, hey, Yeah,
Sean i'm, like, hey just put that out there for,
me and Then i'm gonna carry this. Thing i'm gonna
push myself across the gold.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
LISTEN i gotta, FEELING i gotta feeling they're going to band.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
DISPLAY i gotta feel.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Like the only THING i think you would change and
it would make the play go, away it's just, say,
hey offensive, players you cannot.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Push this used to be a. Rule steal the. Rule
that's What i'm. SAYING i don't, steal.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
You, Cannot SO i don't. Understand that's WHERE i get
confused by, this because it should not be.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Legal that's that's the thing that makes the play is.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Push so the one of the one THING i thought
they might be getting away with is that they're actually
pushing the old. Lineman but they're they're. Putting And i've
watched a bunch of them beause getting ready for the.
Show they pushed the crab by the. Quarterback they pushed the.
Quarterback if you're pushing the on, lineman that's fine if
you're but.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
That ain't fair.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Either but it's but it's in the purview of the.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Rules we just gonna tell, them, man watch us on fourth.
Down we're gonna show you how to go ahead a.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
MOVIE i will say like, That so everyone talks about
how this is, unfair. RIGHT i think it was seventy eight, percent, Right,
jason AND i Think washington, Commanders, yeah we're ninety, yeah
or eighty three percent conversion, rate which is when you
think put that in, context like that's.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Time we was throwing the.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Ball so but when you got A, jedi when you
got A jedi.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
That can, force it makes it, Different like we.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Don't need to like our quarterback is so good as a, Thrower,
yeah that they have to say assignment first stopped the
throwing and we rallied.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
To the road and just he was special.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Too, Yeah we've seen a lot of guys that can
throw and that had others like that had his skill.
SET i think what was that was best stood out From.
Jaden he can dissect the. Open he can dissect a,
defense don't matter what you you you presented to.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Him he found the open, guy you know WHAT i.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Mean and he had a way about even if he's not,
Open i'm gonna give him. Opportunity i'm gonna throw him.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Open so that's what to, me that's that's his.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Gift he can throw the ball exceptionally, well but he
also threw guys open and to it at the right.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Time. Spot you had.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Guys you had guys like as soon as he put
that foot in the, ground ball coming right, there you, Know.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Yeah he was. Good he was just got.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
Something, Yeah i'll fact check, myself RAD i, Promise BUT
i actually think they changed a rule about five years
ago that you can push it's a player at the
line of, scrimmage and that's, why and that's why The
eagles went and started Doing this.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Doesn't shock, Me, jake Because i'll check every time we
have this every. Year that's the.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Case that makes. Sense, well, SO I i love defense of.
FOOTBALL i love watching the. DEFENSE i love good like
you know That Super bowl between The patriots and The
rams a couple years. Ago but, yeah but it was
such a good defensive. Struggle every play was. Important most
fans don't think of it that. Way like so when
you ask fans what's the Best Super bowl last couple,
years they're going to say that one where it was

(59:16):
Like philly In New.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
England it was like it's like in, baseball they changed,
things you know with the best they, shift they shift
changed to they want they want to see, offense they
want to see home, run they want to see balls
here and.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
So that's where that's what the REASON i think this
gets tabled is because it it makes for better. Offense
it lets you stay on the, field lets you possess the,
football AND i think THAT'S.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
I love Watching Frankie luvu try and stop. It so
but then they said you can't do.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
That they, said you can do, it they say got
so basically what it, was it was like they were
gonna it was gonna be delay a. Game it's essentially
what they were going to. Say and then if you
get the delay a game, penalty we can now ward the.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Score The eagles were hard counting them to get him
to do. So so now you're at a point, where
like you we, have we're allowed to push and you
can't jump over hard.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Or how about we say you can push toush but
you got to do it on, one, everybody it's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Enough that would be that would make it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
Easy you gotta do it on, one and we gotta
we gotta have to sit there and wait because you
can now get in that formation as offense and say
we're gonna hike on two and we're gonna do something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Different we ain't gonna push. It you, know you gotta make.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
It to, ME i, say you have to make it
even for the defense not to just sit there and
get blowed off the ball because.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Your heart counting us. One we can't get a jump
and then you're getting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Pushed BUT i do think you brought this, Up, tanne
like the commander stopped. IT i, think, yeah we have
three times in that, game and then they stopped earlier
in the. Year so there's a way to do. It
it's just they've getting there getting every year they. Get
they have like a little you, know pitch off of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
It they got a hard care that wasn't riding apple
to just spoiled a whole. Bunch that's what the disc all,
right we got all these good plays.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
In this, One, rod it's. Play what's the place supposed to?
Do you know what got us to the?

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
League Santana malls Got Santana malls to the league, independently independent.
Contract he didn't get here because somebody was pushing his.
BUTTON i wondered where he was. Going we had coaches
he got.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
HERE i mean his skill.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Set nobody got pushed to the, League so why WOULD
i get to the. League you would think this doc
bush league stuff happened in college where you can experience
it where everybody looking FOR i.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Think the rules in college are still that you can't
push forward at least somebody crazy like the remember that
year that rule last year about the R po where
it's like you can't have like, uh it was something
where you can't like pitch the ball forward and then
throw a past or whatever because they started doing in.
College like it all started like because the rules in
college were getting into. This like if you watch college
Like Wake forest when they do that R po where
it's like one one thousand and two one, thousand one,

(01:02:01):
thousand and then there's people downfield like because they had
to change that because of what they were doing. College but,
ANYWAY i don't think there's anything wrong with. IT i
THINK i just don't think there is skill to. It
FRED i don't think me and on the same, page
it's not fair IF i can't push as a defensive, player.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
You shouldn't be able to push his offense.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Correct that's really what it boils.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Down think about quarterbacks from the pay it's a running backs.
Front to pay is looking at these, like you, know
how many people could have pushed me into the end
though like usually afforded touchdowns on the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Take the only THING i keep coming back to is
that no one else does it as good as, them
so there is skill to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
IT i know what it is to give you prop
for me and the best cheater in the. ROOM i
can't give you prop for finding a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
LOOPHOLE i mean Every SO i think back to twenty
twelve And kyle found a. Loophole he basically brought a
college offense to THE, nfl and that was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Offensive guess what this cow you do it at this
call taking things to the next.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Level so nobody as an offensive play. Caller they took
it to the next level y.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
A, quarterbody and nobody nagged about it because it wasn't.
Cheating he brought education to the. Table this is not
a controversial. Play he brought this is What i'm going to,
do and this is How i'm going to do with.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Me it, feels if you, know it feels like it
feels like we're so good at. Something if the world hates,
us if the world hates, us that's what it feels.
Like it feels like everybody we could do it, here
that anybody could do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
It anybody could do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
It but they're the only ones that do. It so
it's literally like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Hey it's almost like too.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Man folks don't want to do it because they don't
want to be jocking What philly's, Doing like they don't
want to look at at like, copy you know WHAT i,
mean because we've did some funky stuff one time or two,
times you, know that presented like, okay we can do
the same, thing and then we pitched the ball back
and somebody threw the. Ball but it just feels to
me That buffalo say screw. That we got a quarterback

(01:03:57):
that we feel like they try it out of. Time
he gets it every now and. Then is just unbelievable
with it BECAUSE i think more because of that office of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Line MAYBE i just hate it BECAUSE i Hate philadelphia
as a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
WHOLE i think that's fair, too that's a fair. Criticism
you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
HATE i don't hate the fact that they're they're they're exceptionally,
good AND i just hate the fact that they don't
allow the defense to kind of get off the same at.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Least give us a counter to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
It so if you have, thoughts, feelings you, know big
emotions about The toush, push please give a comment because
like you, KNOW i think it's, cool But fred hates.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
It so it's because it's literally a butt push and
probably you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Can give it a great name all you want. To
it's just like me lying up And i'm looking. Back
you can't wait till you push me to push this.
Tush wrong with, y'all nobody thinking get the right. Ship
make sure you're sting. Left come on, man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
All, Right so that's gonna do it for this. Show,
yeah please live a comment if you feel some type
of way about any of those. Rules if you and
say congratulations To. Alex i'vection that's. Awesome great guys in the,
comments love to see. Those but that's gonna do. It
and so please make sure you like to subscribe it
if you get your podcasts

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
And well stopped The gloody Its maximus progression

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