The guys recap the entire 2025 NFL Draft for the Washington Commanders. Next, they disclose what the national media missed with Shedeur Sanders and how his draft day slide could have been predicted. Then, they talk about the press conference from Josh Harris and Roger Goodell on the plans for a new stadium at RFK. Finally, they have some beef with Mr. Beast - Did he STEAL the Gorilla debate bit!? Hosts: Logan Paulsen, Santana Moss, Fred Smoot Producer: Jason Johnson
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's upisode The Command Center Podcast, we have RFK news,
exciting for fans, exciting for DC. Can't wait to talk
about that. We've got the draft recapp Did they get
five guys.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That are going to start for this team?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We'll talk about that's more and we can't escape it.
No one can escape it. Fadora Sanders News. It all
starts right now. Welcome to The Command Center Podcast. I'm
Wigan Pulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and guys.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I got a bone to pick. I got a problem
up right.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, So you guys have seen this gorilla thing that's
floating around like one hundred guys versus one gorilla.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I think we had this conversation a year ago.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We had this conversation a year ago, and just for
the record, I was talking about this same setup. Yeah,
I think it was. I was still playing, I was
here in Washington. I want to say it was like
two thousand. It was Trent Murphy's rookie year, so twenty thirteen.
So this has been on my radar for well over
a decade. Man versus animal man and specifically a gorilla.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, a gorilla.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And so obviously they've you know what I'm saying, They've
changed it because I think you hurt yourself, right, like
when you say, oh, one hundred dudes versus Grilla, because
you got shirts, you got shoes, you got stuff, Like
in mind, you're butt naked.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
How many people needn't take to beat the gorilla that's mine?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So you want to, you won't even ground.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I want to. Gorilla is naked, that's what I want
to see.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
See he's in his habitat when he has no shoes on.
You need shoes, you need something to get away from
his ass.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But I'm saying, like in this room, there's there's a
silver back grilla over there in the corner. How many
people does it take if you're in your birthday suit
to beat that thing today?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm gonna tell you that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I think I remember saying I'm going to exit the
room and let y'all do what y'all do.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
But I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I don't know, but I do remember us talking about
this way before.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So Jason kept the receipts in August of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, we talked about it. We have comments on the
video like ye man versus and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Fans, I'm a little disappointed. You guys were like, man,
I've heard this before.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, like why not say commands in the podcast say
it this like, no, mister, he sprawled because anything you
missed the beach, dude, it's cool.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
But Commands said that we just dudes.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, And I do think, like, you know, the hundred
guys is interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, but I've asked some like Special Forces dudes this question.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, and they kind of look at you, you know,
they got that tough face and like five five.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, but you gotta tell him no. Women like come on, like,
let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So you get this.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The first time I asked the Special Forces guys and
I was like, oh, in this room, right hair, I'm like, yeah,
there's no mic stands, everything's gone. He goes okay, and
he looks up at the ceiling and he's like what
is What do you think that is? And I was
like it's probably dry wall, and he's like, I could
punch through that and there's probably piping in there. And
I pulled some stuff out, pull some screws out, and
I was like, this dude is just on a different different.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He's looking for whom did you can't.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
One guy's like, I think I could probably get electrocute
him with the outlet, and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So basically telling you that the humans won't fight fair.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I can't this. This is the thing about it that
you think about it. So even if I said, hey, man,
you just in here by yourself, yeah, you birthday suit,
go kill that gorilla, it would take probably a thousand people.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
There's no number because like the no, no, I'm not
gonna do human beings like that, because we got some
big human beings.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You are big human beings.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But dude, I'm telling you so, Like I think about
when I fight my son, for example, so I'm two
seventy my son's one hundred pounds. Yeah that's not exactly
the same, but it's probably closer.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, I would demolished.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I would mess my son up if it was like
you know what I'm saying, And eventually I'd get.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Tired, Like if he was just like, way he go.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
The thing that we got that the gorilla just never have.
We can pry up, we can plan, but we can
plan the attack. That means we don't.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Take a smart man.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
They know what you're thinking from the get go.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
As soon as you're thinking about that instinctive, they're more instinctive.
Now here go.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
If I got ten Logans, if I got ten Logan pulses,
one thing we can do is if I can get
one Logan Polston around the neck, happen neck. What I'm
saying is we don't hold the hands.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You're crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Look for some This is the craziest one I heard
was like, hey, I could I could do it with
five people. I said, is I need someone who's really
sick about to die, and then need four able bodied people.
And I was like, what are you talking about. I'm
going to send that guy over there so then to
get beat up and then we're going to take his bones
out and get after it.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
But but think about it, though that work, So you
don't you don't sacrifice one guy to the guys.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We're not everyone's going to make it.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But but then if you if you just tweak the
if you tweak the parameters a little bit, and I say, hey,
here you get a five pound weight from the weight room. Yeah,
now we got a shot. Now we're cooking with gas.
I say, here's a blade.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Oh one dude, so basically with that whipping the eyes
and something, we don't got a change.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
What I think we got a chance.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't think the numbers matter as much as the
mentality of the dominion.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
That's what I'm because if you have one hundred Jason's
in there, yeah, nah, but you could do five logans
something good. This is because I'm not doing.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
This is a job for the people that society has
pushed to the side.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The other one that I like to is I talked
to my green brave buddy about it, and he said,
five people. He's I think we could fatigue it because
you could just mess with it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And if you could just.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Stay out of reach of the gorilla and tire it
out enough, it's gotta play the long game.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
No, that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You gotta realize, I think about it, like you could
tire the thing out though.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Do you not realize? No, fighting against a vegetarian gorilla
is a vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What does that have to do with anything?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Well, you ain't gonna get tied. No, vegetarians don't get
off the top.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
That vegetarian is not the biggest animals on earth. Fits
is a vegetarian. Talk giraffe is a vegetarian, like vegetarians
grow bigger than meat eaters.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Meat eaters have more energy than vegetarian.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So let me just say that's great something because it's
always tries to be absolutely in the same when people
like you ever seen the skinny gorilla, they all eat
his bamboo or something like that, Like it drives me nuts.
You know, they have a special enzyme in their gut
to help them digest the fiber and turn into a protein.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Like that's it's not the same, right, Like.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
So when a person what you gotta say about the
elephant d well, Okay, it's a sperm.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Wheel, It's okay, sperm wheel is a carnivore.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
No, I'm just saying, what you got a carnivore. Yeah,
but they also eat the smallest particles in.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The sperm wheel eats giant squid you're thinking of belly,
thinking of a blue ye blue, And they eat krilled,
which is also a animal.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But it's also micro.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm just thinking about how free and knowing all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's it's just micro.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's it's not it's it's like a little shrimp. Yeah
I know.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, but it's like Melliams.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, but so they're they're also eating proteins, like animal
based proteins.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But we can't say that the garrilla is a vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Grill is vegetarian, yes, but it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's it's they don't have nothing to do when it
comes to it's energy.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
All I'm saying is we ain't going down by the
hands of a vegetarian.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Do you understand me?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
In ninety nine dudes, I'm gonna tell these dude before
this match, this is a vegetarian.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
We gotta take him down.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's your Yeah, we will, just as you stand in
the back like.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
We would not lose totarian, were going to the steakhouse
after this.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You understand me, You're not losing.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Long story short, this was our thing. Yeah, yeah, before
like seriously like that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
We got no love.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
We got to say that we brought this up and
had a long talk about this when we just had Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But you brought this up, so give us some love.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
If you see that out there inside, you.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Know, hey, mister bees didn't do this. Is this mister basting,
Yes it is really this is a mister Beestein. And
you know when mister Beach touched something, it turned to
go it's pretty wild. If mister Beach touched something and
he just shows up in your city with some idea
like I'm finna jump off a building. Like he shows
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up in your city, he gets a billion views and
now he's the man.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Now he say fight a gorilla. We said this a
year ago.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Nobody with I fan base did grab They did talk
about it, but the world didn't grab it.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But now it's the b said.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He's got it. He's got it, all right. So that's yeah.
Just so it's our plea to you as a fan base.
Just help us out all bit here.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Just show us some love, all right?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
And uh so In more Commander's based news, obviously, the
RFK news is out now looks like that there's an
opportunity for the stadium to be built at the old
RFK site, which is really exciting for the city of
d C. It is exciting for the fan base, and
obviously it's still incredibly early in the process, but at
least it does seem to be taking steps in that direction.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Hollowed ground, Yeah, hallowed ground, Like you want to talk
about the dads and the sons, that's gonna rejoice sending
in them stands like it's gonna be nostalgia.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It is finest, all right. Uh.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I once got asked by a fan like a week ago,
did you play at Rkade.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm like, I'm not that old, you know, I played
at RKAY.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
What in college?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
They played the Eagle Bank Bowl there? Yeah, and uh yeah,
I played.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The Eagle Bank Ball c l A. Yeah, U CLA.
We played Temple and the Eagle Bank Bowl and win.
So we did win.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So Dad, what year was that?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It was two thousand and nine, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
The whole time I've been here, that thing looked like
it by the fall.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
No, but you remember the Nats played there also, and
they did play them bowl games, and.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I will say it was one of the most miserable
experiences I've ever had, not because of the stadium, but
because it was like really cold and the field, you know,
there's like that one open end down there, yet it
was completely frozen, like asphalt frozen, and so you fall like.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
You'd slip because they had to paint the field.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Green fields painted green.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, and anytime you fell, like I fell in the
first quarter, like I got tackled and someone fell on
me and it and I bruised all my ris and
I was just like it was terrible, you know what
I mean, because like imagine playing tackle football, like clearing
the cars out and playing in your cleats, like that's
what it was.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So funny.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
The youngest one of us has played at RFK and
the two oh he has ain't played it.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And it was cool, Like it was one of those
spots where it's kind of like not not the same level,
but you know when you go to Lambeau and you're.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Like, yeah, yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, the Micha but.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You kind of felt like there was ghosts in the
building a little bit, you know, which is kind of cool.
Like yeah, So obviously, like we're really excited about it.
Was really cool to see Roger Gidel at the press conference,
like yeah, and hopefully that keeps for guessing. If you
want more information about it, make sure the Commander's dot
com for more. There'll be a story up there on
the website, so make sure you check that out. All right, So,
now that we've got the gorilla thing, which was maybe
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the most important thing in the show, let's give us
some love on that. Yeah, the RFK News, let's recap
the draft, and let's start, I guess with super high
level and you know, like the Commands only had five
picks in the draft. Yeah, and I was kind of like,
usually like national media is not super psyched about like
those low volume drafts. They say, oh, we need more
volume to have a good draft. But there's a news
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outlet that aggregates all the mock drafts that kind of
compares your draft to the mock draft. Commanders were the
number two team by that metric. CBS Sports A minus,
AP and News B plus, UH Sports Illustrated, b NFL
dot Com b PFF B plus, and The Ringer B.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So I think.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Overall, that'll get you high on a row.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
People pretty good about the people feel pretty good about
the Commander's drafts.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, I feel great about it. I think we all
said this though that night, you know, both Nicely was here.
It just seems different. It has a different kind of.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Or to it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I don't even know if I can use or for
a word, but it seemed like for the years and
especially the years of us playing, we were just getting guys.
You know what I'm saying. You see a name, Okay,
we got them. We have five six receivers though we
got two more, you know what I mean? And now
I think everything is intentional. You know, they going out
there getting it's actually going to really ben fit what
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we do as a team, you know what I mean.
It's fitting what we do and who we are. So
that's what's intrigguing to me, just seeing that you're getting
guys that fit your culture and you getting guys that
fit what we do offensively and defensively and also special teams.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I know you a winning organization when you have none
sexy drafts, when you don't get the names everybody think
you're gonna get, like when you have those Kansy City
type drafts. When you have that, we just have the
big guys, like, nothing sexy about that. We'll get athletes
in the back end of around. Like it's like hip
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hop music. Just because you got a hot song, don't
mean you got a hot album. Like Kendrel and mar
wins all the awards because his work has some validity
to it, not Juicy Jay, and I love Juicy Jay.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
But it's club.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
It ain't win any no awards like, so it don't
have nothing to it. Like now that we having these drafts,
these drafts have something and like I said, I think
it's a great thing that we want these dre.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Up peaks, But do we need these dray up peaks?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Wan? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And I think to kind of piggyback off of that,
like B Mitch said something similar on the live show
that we did on Draft Night, where he's like, you know,
it's so funny that fans get mad, but sometimes the
best drafts are ones where you don't know the names. Yes,
I think a lot of it is like I studied
a lot for this draft, I said, a lot, And
thank god, I've actually watched all of these players before
the draft started. But like you can't watch like the
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director of college scouting, I watched five hundred guys. Yeah,
he'll have a report written up on five hundred football players. Yeah,
and you know the GM will probably watch three point
fifty to four hundred. He's you know, they they're kind
of trying to distill information down to him. And I
have never I've yet to meet a fan, even people
who are super locked in from a draft perspective wise,
who watch that many guys. Yeah, And I just think,
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like trust that, especially now with how smart teams are getting.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, teams are smart now the draft, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Never like, well that guy's are reached, Like especially the
last year, I wasn't like, oh that's a terrible pick
at all, kind of fell in line. People are smart, man,
and they're getting better and better from an analytics perspective
about distealing this thing down. The one thing that I
took away from this draft, and we're going to talk
about each pick individually, here is you got five players.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, I think all five of.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Them have a really good shot of making the team,
and very rarely do I feel that way about a draft.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So when you got a guy in the seventh round
in Jacory Krofsky Merritt, who is I think got a
really tremendous upset as a runner, I think you could
make the squad. Yeah, And that's very rare. And so
I think that's one thing to think about. And the
other thing I just want to call attention to this
is there's five people on this sheet, but I don't
think this represents the draft class. And what I mean
by that is you got Deebo Samuels with that fifth
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round pick, So you're kind of in this in this desert,
not picking for a long time from one twenty six
to two forty five or whatever it was like insert
answered Deebo Samuels there, right, you know you don't have
that third round pick and Shirt Marshall and ladim in
short marsha On Antimore, and you don't have a draft
pack next year, but you have Laramie Tungs and I
look at if you add those names to this draft,
we would It's hard to think of a group that
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did that did quote unquote did.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
The draft did better?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, because you're not going to find guys that's no.
You can say that that's that's already half. I guess
you can say, what's the word I'm trying to use.
I see, I'm going I'm having brains.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Just established guys.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
They established guys that's already have they you know, that
been in the league long enough to go out there
and say, okay, we can we can depend on these guys.
You know, most most guys in the draft, on most
teams in the draft, they're drafting these guys, banking and
hoping that hey, these guys have to play right now.
And that's one of the things that Adam Peter said,
you know that was interested to me. Is just before
we have to pick a guy tonight, you know, we
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can go play right now with the guys that we have. Yeah,
So before we picked the guy, we had three guys
already from from using our draft capitople that come to
help this team and and and help us have.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
A better year than we had last year.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
So I guarantee before I take that, what if the
draft is a big old weddy? What if we coach
him right? What if we got the right scheme? It's
always a wood if the Laraman Tussel is not a
what if? Deebo Samuels is not a what if Marshawn
Lattimore is not a what if? I know what I'm
getting when I'm dealing with these guys, so when you
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put them in this jail class we want.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, And I think this also taught me something about
the draft. And what I mean by that is like
I've always thought you want to build through the draft,
and you do. But like when you think about like
draft capital as like money for example, right, it's money
to make your team better. It's a resource to make
your team better. And so when you are allocating some
of those resources to establish known commodities, Yeah, that's still.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
A good draft process because you're still growing your team
in that way.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So I think that especially with I mean, this is
just team building, like philosophy. You've got a franchise type
player in jayde and Daniels on a rookie deal. The
window the Super Bowl windows, Now, yeah, we got to
be more aggressive and we use our draft capital to
get that done them. So I think that that's kind
of what I learned from this.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Like I looked at the draft like a selling a house.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Like if I want to sell a house, I got
a couple of hot spots in this house.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
If I upgrade them, I can get more money.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
And that's the kitchen, that's the bare bathroom, all right,
and maybe the backyard. But anything else that I put
money in is a wasted it's a waste.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And something in the backyard of the waist. Yeah, you
know what I'm.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Saying, Like I just want to I think the draft,
we we literally hit especially with the taco currently that's
kitchen to me, this kitchen work. We add that extra pantry,
we adding that extra what's the name in there, and
it's bringing value to the house. It's bringing value to
the house. And I think that's the big thing that
you want to do. Because now that I sit down
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and I really looked at it. I was talking to
Shen yesterday. I said, she, now that I look at
this office line, if I started the left tack and
I go across, I got a Pro Bowl left tackle.
I to me, Coleman has Pro Bowl capability at guard.
I have a Pro Bowl center, Sam cosmi back, I
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got a Pro Bowl guard. So I'm already three for
four and Pro Bowl is on my offensive line.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, four four, And then I got this.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
New uh freshman basically tackle, Like, I have a solidified
line right now, I have I have road.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Greaters at that line. So if you.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Look at it from that perspective, we have the trench
warfare that we need to win in this league right now.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And I think like when you've got you know, like,
look I look at the last couple of years, you know,
with the Washington Commanders, and it's the offensive line has
been a little bit upper down. Now it's limited what
you can do offensively. And I think these are smart
steps to help maximize your quarterback. They're smart steps to
help maximize your run game. Like it's really like everyone
talks about skill position players, and that's important. Like the
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spine of the team is your offensive.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Office is offensive defensive line. I'm sorry, this is where
everything starts. This where everything ends. I have always been
an advocate of the dudes disma like Bacon.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, and so Josh Connelly tackle from Oregon, I think
is a great example of this. Like he's big, he's six',
five he's three, fifteen three eleven whatever he. Is he
ran as like a five flats depending on who you're
your tostop watches like a five flat or a four nine.
Forty he's got a thirty four and a half inch.
Vertical he's, explosive he's got long, arms got thirty four in.
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Charms like he's kind of like the mold right when
you look at the analytics for the tackle, position like
can you get a little bitch bitch bigger and? Stronger
sure they all, can BUT i look at, Him i'm,
like man, like there's a lot of growth potential. There
same thing With coleman and SO i think it really
does a lot in terms of raising.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
The floor of the.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Offense tanna AND i think about like you as a
receiver and how like when you have a great old
line to.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Protect like those shots.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Down the field become a little bit, easier the offense
becomes less, horizontal and that's super.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Important AND i think too when you look at, It
like one of the THINGS i mentioned on draft night
we picked them, up thought about thinking about how much you,
Know cliff had the hold back because he had to
keep guys in the block tight, end you, KNOW i mean.
Blocking and we was out there winning with two or
three guys in the.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Routes it was a.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Masterclass, Yeah Like cliff got in his bag so much last,
year they forgot about The cliff that they was trying
to you, KNOW i guess you had a big narrative
was oh.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Late in the, Season cliff.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Disappeared that was going on for about a week and
then he got in his bag and, said oh that's
how y'all feel about. Me i'm gonna show. 'all and
then you get a guy And jaydon that's so. Accurate
that's so on. Time you're getting these guys running their
routes the. Way now we're getting more help up there
to where he, Said, okay NOW i can get two
more guys out of the. ROUTE i could get five.
Guys you KNOW i want to, do so that's what
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you look for. It and it was funny because it
wasn't a sexy. Pit it wasn't guys that was happy.
ABOUT i was driving home And i'm listening to late
night radio and they was, like oh, yeah BUT i
didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Who was that. Guy and THAT'S i love.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That WHEN i heard from the, fans that's the same
way they felt about Dan quinn coming.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Here oh why did we get? In we wanted the
other guy From.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Detroit so when you when you hate and when you
when you're a fan base and you're not happy about
the moves that's being, made you understand that the people
who really know what they're talking. About, yeah you, know
you have to be like a guy like. Myself it's
real happy about it because you don't, know but they,
do AND i trust in what they. Do and So
i'm just happy because we talk about depth and seeing
Cous me go down last, year seeing how those guys
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stepped there for Cous, me and now to know that
we have other. Guys we added another guy to go
along with those. Guys, man you're just gonna have the
advantage to go out there and, say, man who are
ready to play this.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Week we're gonna pick our best fights stuff for. Room
we stuffed two rooms during this. Draft we stuffed the
offensive line room to. Capacity we stuffed the defensive back
room to. Capacity it's gonna be competition. There it's gonna
be also the. Talent the floor of talent is here
or now now it's, here like it's, nothing and it's
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to the point in those two.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Rooms we have saym cars me go.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Down if we have A, jones go, Down like it's
just play who you, Want like it's guy's good lord
in there and that's what you. Want that's what championship teams.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Do, YEAH i think it's funny BECAUSE i did hear
a lot of fans be, like who's this? Guy AND
i honestly LIKE i was surprised BECAUSE i feel like
for years That i've been in ounced here like everyone's like.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Offensive, line we needn't.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Prove it's like get one.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Here it's like we are improving the offensive. Line not
they want to hear you do.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
It maybe they want to name, you like you, know
the one thing about the draft is like going to
a car, Lot like WHEN i Say i'm gonna go
get a new.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Car WHEN i come, back you you waiting on.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Something but IF i pull up in the Al, camino you, Like,
pops what? Happened, no the Al, CAMINO i can actually
work and.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Drive like the, expectations and the expectation was so high.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Up who are we gonna get edge? Rushier they gonna
get an Edge.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Russia we got somebody to protect from an edge. Rusher
and that's what you gotta.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Like like it. Be men said.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It anytime the fan base is, disappointed you did your.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Job you did your.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Job because if the fan base is happy on Draft,
day that mean you you kind of played into the.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Choir you kind of did what they wanted you to.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Do and not only, that, man you made a great
point about what we miss talked.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
About if you really paid us into the.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Draft The giants go out there and get our dual
carter and we, said. Checkmate this guy here played him and.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
He had no. Sacks mold.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Him, no he basically blanket this guy the entire. Game
and not only just a dude caught, it but basically
everybody he you, know went up.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Again so there they was. Playing they was playing.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Chess yeah in our, division saying, okay you got this.
Guy we're gonna go get a guy that's going TO
solidi file us even more upfront to keep them a five,
clean you.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Know, yeah and to kind of support tennis. Point he
had zero, pressure zero, pressures not, sacks zero pressures allowed
IN teni for ten of fourteen.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Games, yeah, like, no it is easy to give up a.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Pressure pressure is a. Pressure You it's, like, OH i
miss misset. This i'm a little getting pushed, Back like
that's pretty crazy to.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Me you, know this is a defensive player that's, Unbelievable
like at Least i'm will get around and almost get. That,
mean ain't no guy almost getting there like? This that's
that's that's keeping it. Clean and that's WHY i named
Him David banner because when He's, david he's a very,
cool calm. Guy he was he was super, chilling you,
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know he was, chilling but he turns into the credible
home this win.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Things shange know.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What's crazy, though it is some of the best TACKLES
i played, With Like Laramie tunseel was like, This Jake
matthews was like this little.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Bit they're really.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Calm Nice Chris Chris samuels, same very nice guys if
you shake their hand with no pants, on when they
put these pants, on something, changes something like something changes
where they just want to.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Grab people and they want to.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Malve, yeah indeed they turned it right back off and
then they go for ice.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Cream SO i don't know what happens to these.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Guys and even in the, huddle like you, know like
they're very they're kind of, funny they're kind of joking,
around and then all of a, sudden it's like this
like that that they just go, dark like right when
they say he, like.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's just like they choose bad right, now choose.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Bad it's very.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Strange so, obviously Really i'm really excited About Josh. Connorley
LIKE i don't know if you guys checked out the
big board on the, website but he was my fourth
tackle AND i had him going kind of right in that,
range AND i think right before the, pick it's like
of the players, available he was definitely in that four
kind of four players that we're really excited. About so
that was. Awesome another guy that again like not tochoot
my own, horn but like was right exactly WHERE i
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thought he would go Was Trey, amos the cornerback from All.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
MISS i THINK i brought him, up DID?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I so we, did And i'm going to give you
credit here.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Them we talked about it in the break and we,
SAID i was, like you can talk About shamon novel
Or samos And pole, immediately just LIKE i want to
talk About. Ramos so we didn't talk about. It and
you and we did you like?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
HIM i know you like? Him AND i think he
was like number five on YOUR dB. Ranking he's very.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
High, yeah, Yeah so but At Trey, Amos, man it
kind of feels the same way As Josh connelly, Does
like as the board was, falling kind of opened that
door and it's just, like, oh, man here's here's the.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
First round guy that basically slipped to us in the second.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Round and, again like the things THAT i like about
him are his. Size he's about he's six ft a
little bit, over kind of six y, one about two hundred.
Pounds he's played at multiple, schools, right he's got this
kind OF i love guys now in college football who
he started as Raging cajun goes To, alabama doesn't work,
out he gets, relegated transferred schools To Ole. Miss like
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he had to find his to.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Fight, LIKE i love. Guys they had to fight their way.
Up that's WHY i love Cam. Wood like Cam ward
went from a zero start recruit to the first in
The dreil and and everybody just want to talk about
you do.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It And i'm, like that ain't what we should be talking.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
About we should be talking about this guy who entered
college is a zero.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Star that means you stink damn.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
SONO i mean nobody has put yeah shifting you.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
UP i mean he just.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Happen he didn't get the eyes that everybody else. Got
that's what it really. Means So i'm, like we want
To Fred smoot's coming out of college because we ran
them out all day and.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
They had to watch WHEN i capt him, OUT i
WAS i had to go to junior. COLLEGE i wouldn't
LIKE i want everybody raid out LIKE i had. TO
i had to work for. THAT i wouldn't got.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
YOU i wasn't That, Yeah and he definitely had to
work for, it, Right and SO i, think, uh, like
when you look at, HIM i think the thing that
sticks out And, fred you could probably speak to this
better is the ball skills are. Excellent, YEAH i think
he's got good. Physicality like there's a, competitiveness.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You, know like fire about him THAT i.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Love you watched like The South carolina game IF i remember,
correctly and he's Checking, harbor who's like six, five two
hundred and forty pound wide. Receiver, yes and you would
have Thought harbor was. Nobody yeah you know WHAT i?
Mean and, yeah, yeah and really got after. Him love
that can play and zone can. Plan, man there are
some times where he's a little his footwork gets a
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little bit. Off he's not, like but this went pro.
Coaching not the best, Tackler but, again those THINGS i
think are given the type of guy he just seems to.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Be seem like they're easily, correct but he's a willing.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Tackler i'm Not he'll throw it in.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
There so just to be, Clear i'm giving context on
why he might be a sixty. One like, AGAIN i
had A i think you could have took him at
twenty nine AND i would have been, like that's, awesome
you know WHAT i. Mean SO i really liked the.
Player But i'm just kind of saying, like these are
some things to keep an eye. On and, AGAIN i
think you look At Joe Whitt junior And Dan quinn
their pedigree with TV's like in their ability to get
the most out of guys and what they did With
Mike sanders. Leaving you, KNOW i know we Give Benjamin
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saint just's a hard, time but they made him the
best version of. Himself, yes AND i think this guy's
way more instinctive.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And, polished way more, polished and way more of a.
Bawl he's a, Ball he's a cornerbacks.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Cornerback, yeah with a guy that if you Was, Dion
dion want, Him he want him on his.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Squad he.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Won't he want a guy that's gonna go out, there
go out to the, ball be in a guy's, face
ain't backing, down got something to say out. THERE i
mean that's WHAT i. SAW i saw a guy that's
ready to, play no great ready to be, changed but
he's good at. Everything he doesn't have one great, thing
he's good at.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Everything So, jason you got sixteen passes defended on here
that led THE.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
SEC i think it was.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Seventeen i'm that's, crazy that's, ridiculous that's. Awesome BUT i think.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
It speaks to What tanna is talking about THAT i
THINK i had twenty three coming.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Out we're trying to talk about this one over, Here
jason got y'all can fact checked.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Me we're just but it's, ridiculous right and so and
so for him to again three three, interceptions he just
shows an. Awareness, Yeah AND i think like that's one
thing that WITH dbs THAT i often, Undervalue like when
you compare him To Chavone ravel not as aware of
the football in the, air, right this guy is like
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he made.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
A pick who was?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
It you probably are you talking about in the end
zone the one day he somebody threw it up in end.
Zone he literally jumps out the end, zone catches, it
flips over and.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You kind of got rolled like someone kind of understand
some undercomeany the play on the.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Ball tanner, Was it's.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Unbelievable it was, incredible and so LIKE i just, think
like that's the kind of guy that it just a good, ball,
awareness good, position got to clean up some, stuff nothing too,
major but some. Stuff AND i just, think how do
you think that affects the? Defense like, where like where
do you see him fitting in and like what's his
role like moving?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Forward you THINK i think it's it's icing on the,
cake if you know WHAT i, Mean like you got
this core group of, guys and then you bring in
this other guy and he can like all, right you
Got Mikey. SAMMERSTEVE i think you think he moves back
to the. SLOT i THINK i think it'll outs allows
him to move back into the. Slot now you got
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another tall guy on the outside, side press corner.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Outside and then you still Got Jonathan. Jones don't.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Forget you still Got Jonathan.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Jones so you gotta you got a treasures of wealth right.
There you got so like, this you're not one injury
away from everything.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Shattering like it's just kind of where they were last.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Year, yeah like we was like one guy goes down
and it's over.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
WITH i don't think we're there.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Anymore LIKE i think it's gonna be a run on
the position WHERE i don't because you start three corners these.
Days it ain't two corners that you start, three, RIGHT
i don't know the store in three right.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Now that's a good problem to have a great problem.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Now and SO i, mean OBVIOUSLY i think he projects the.
Outside yeah he's.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Not and, again just to be, clear like he's got
to compete for, this he's got to win this, opportunity
like Like tennis, said like they did a great job
of making. Sure we've got a bunch of really hyper
competitive dudes who can play. Football so he's got to earn.
It BUT i think him outside, Center sli, Inside, yeah
and Then marshall.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
And then you still got that think about. It we
can play, INSIDE I, john The jones can play. Inside
they all can play. Outside so now you got you
got a rotational right there that you can't Be AND
i think it.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Just gives you that that that competitive edge as a
defensive back room that you're gonna have a bunch of
guys in there trying to get out there on that.
Field so everybody going to be out there playing their best,
game you know WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Mean, so and it's kind of what The connorley picked
us for the old. Line it's just.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Stuff you get your best in this case three if
you're in dime four and with the intensive, line to
get your best five out, there and that's all you
can ask, for that's all you can. DO i just
want a lot of, competitiveness all. Right, So, TANNA i
don't know if you've watched this guy at. All the
next guy they picked at what was the pick, Eight,
yeah Was Jayleen lane wide receiver For Virginia, tech AND
i just wanted. TO i knew he had a good,
combine SO i was, like let me just let me
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just go back look up what he. Did AND i
was quite frankly blown away by his.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Number so let's get.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
This four three, Four no like? Me, yeah four three
four forty yard dash? Insane one five ten yards split also,
insane that's Un guess what his vertical jump?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Was Forty guess what his broad jump? Was eleven eleven?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Eleven are you out of your?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Mind eleven feet get out of? Here three cone drill
six point seventy.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Five that is.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Elite that is. Elite that's like the movement, skills sinking.
Cuts and then a four one two second three twenty
yard shuttle and fourteen reps of the bench. Press SO
i see, that And i'm, like you are not gonna fight.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Ten of man my.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Measurements what was your VERTICAL i tell, You i've cleared
everything all forty?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Two, YEAH i need to just stop.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
That let this man hide himself.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Up AND i ain't even trying to hype himself. Up but,
no that's.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Ridiculous but do you think but just to get so
just to give, context your forty was a ford to my.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Forty they rounded up to four three. One that was
the fastest in our. Class BUT i ran for.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Eight that's pretty. Close WHEN i got Jail land and
what was your Vertical my vertical jump?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
WAS i cleared all forty? Two we had forty. TWO
i cleared it with the bottom of my. Hand that
gave me like forty. Four, yeah me. Too but they
didn't they.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Didn't they didn't really have broad jumped off my BROAD
i don't. KNOW i don't even THINK i broad jumped
because ONCE i did, that they was, like, man this,
dude day is.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Over like my day was kind.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Of but, again like our guy Jail lane has a
forty inch broad. Jump he ran a four three four.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Like you doing that at five.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Ten you're talking about a guy and he.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Is he two hundred thanks probably not even so not
only is he, fast not only is he, quick he's also.
Strung happened was the? Fourteen, yeah SO i need it
once like one. TIME i, mean, NO i ain't even,
bench BUT.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I probably if you ran a fourth, THREE i. Would.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah we was mentioning the house at um, SO i
mean you know that wasn't a.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Problem but the.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Thing about, me the thing that's so crazy that raised
my eyebrows WHEN i watched his film cut up just
the highlights that they were showing most of those punk.
Returns he, returning he's breaking tackles like he's running through arm,
tackles and then he. Hollering then he getting getting missing on.
You so you know you got a guy in here
that's going to be definitely you, KNOW i can see
why you SAY i Got iso was going going, Crazy,
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yeah because to, me that's that's a part of our
game that you want to. EXCEL i mean, that just to,
me those are first downs that you can't account. For
you know What i'm saying as a punk. Returner you,
know my coach is always tell me TEN i need
two first. Downs i'm, like, cold you're talking ABOUT i
need you getting more than ten. YARDS i need you
get at least twenty. Yards you know What i'm.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Saying so that's that's two first downs for.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Us so when you when you got a guy like
that who can change the field after that that ball
is kicked and and it touches his, hands that put
our offense in a better you know range of going
out there and doing.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Them he got the trace to get what we called
in the defensive back. Room he finna get little on.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
You like when the dude started getting, smaller they mean
he running away from he getting little when he turns
in a two inch, Man, yeah you probably thirty miles
away from this guy has the ability to turn to
the main and this what you. Want you won't big
playability and once he gets, little you don't see nothing
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but the last MAY i love.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It the other, thing, too is LIKE i think about you,
know you talk about the, returnability LIKE i do think
there's gonna be a slight regression in terms of fourth down.
Conversion you know it's eighty seven percent last year that
you can only go, Back, yeah your fourth your third
down was like forty, seven which was second.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We no touch push, second we know touch.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Push so there's gonna be a little bit of a
just a slight regression, Obviously like those are just unsustainable.
Numbers but all of a, sudden you bring in a
guy in the return game who can give you two first, downs,
right you don't have to be converting all those first
Down you can get scores on special, Teams like that's
a really dynamic. Thing and THEN i do, think LIKE
i like his offensive. Film, yeah you watch The offense
At Virginia, tech AND i don't know if we have Any.
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Hoki Watching offense was kind of hard for me to.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Watch it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Stinks it's not.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Great let's be, Honest, Like i'm not going to sugar coat.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Nothing it's like kind of like this r P o triple,
Options like it's a weird. Deal and so the receivers
are kind of in a tough. Spot BUT i will
say this dude will.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Block.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, yeah he's tough with the ball in his, hands
like you're watch him break. TACKLES i think his route
running nuance is better than what he was able to show.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Him, WELL i think he's A.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Bloomingdale the key Is oh and if the key is
is t MoU, right this guy is Blooming. Day he's
an Upgraded he's a the key is with rams on.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, well BECAUSE i think is a heck of a.
Football but this, guy he's all the more. Gasoline that's
What i'm.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Saying he's just paramount and buddy paramount. PLUS i would say,
Great BUT i.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Did have that, thought BUT i watched. HIM i was
like he reminds me a little bit of that's WHAT i.
Say but he can hit a home run all the.
Time it's just kind of. Cool, Yeah and again the
play strength is, cool like AND i think about like
what he could do for the, offense you, know, like
obviously you Lose Johnny, brown like that straight vertical guy
to carry stuff out for, Career like it's.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Nice and now he's that. Guy he can he can be,
That so he's.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Got To, again he's got to earn this, too, Right
but there's a in terms of like what he could
mean for the, offense role for the, offense roll on
special teams right at the. GATE i don't know if
he can cover, kicks but he plays like he, Can like.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
It's just like a tough. Dude SO i really getting
that guy at one twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Eight, LIKE i love that pick because it's just great,
value fits fits the culture of the team really well
and obviously very. Exciting, now maybe one of my favorite
players in the draft is the next guy they, Drafted
Caine midrano FROM ucla Fil.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Pops let's not say that he's your favorite because you
love brilliant brew bias here baby blew in.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Going.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
On but ifraid you watched.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Him, yeah like he's six, three he's two twenty to
twenty five, again all, readers athletic profile in a, second it's.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Unbelievable fastest linebacker in the draft with this dude.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
MOVES i don't know if he's a safety all. Linebacker
he plays LIKE i, Say i'm.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Sorry he has this thing to him like WHEN i watched,
FILM i like to see guys THAT i don't have
to wonder where you at on the, field especially it's
a defensive, player LIKE i want you to be, like.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Hey it's me and, right and this is what his film.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Said WHEN i turned the film, on he looked at
me and was, like, yeah check me, out but you
get loaded This it just he had a pick six
that he literally picks the ball up coming downhill right,
now he picks the ball, off run past the offensive,
tackles literally gets like ten yards from the end. Zone
somebody try to cut him load so for him screens
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around like he jumps Like i'm, crazy he's a Linebackers
like this is Why i'm like what he really is
on this?
Speaker 7 (40:09):
Level converted wide receiver that part think about, that you
know WHAT i?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Mean and then he's a, hybrid you, KNOW i, mean
like why why why force him to be anything but
what he? Is you need him in a, box put
him down, there you need to.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Cover let him, cover you know WHAT i?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Mean like he's he to, me he brains something to
this defense that we've seen that we had in Shen
chin and like how we Had. Flower you, know he
was one of those guys that you didn't know what
he was, like was he a linebacker?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Edge you know WHAT i?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Mean so he has that about his, game WHICH i
feel like that fits what we, do you know WHAT i.
Mean he's a football player and he's a guy that's gonna.
Flyer he's the guy that, say, look, man go out
there and do your. Job and that's WHAT i. SAW
i saw that jumped. Off he jumped off the chocks
when it came to just being around the.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Football very very.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Instinctive you, know even when he wasn't making the, interception
he made to play on the, ball making it hard
for the other, guy you know WHAT i, mean or
making EASY i for what other guys to come out
and then get the PEAK.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
A lot is, though should be happy about this one.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Too team as a sixth round, player like his home
is going to be. Teams BUT i think what we're
kind of pointing to here is, like so just in one,
GAME i forget who they were playing is a Red
he might have Been, NEBRASKA.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
USC i don't remember Roming.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Nebraska and so he lined up as the star so
like over the slot, player running with, receivers, yes filling
all that s, place playing r. Po the next, play
he's lined up at mike, linebacker taking on pulling guards
and getting under. Stuff on the third, play he's lined
up at like defensive end in the edge, rusher rushing
the tackle for a. Pressure and so it was, like,
(41:37):
wow he sounds like really he's an excellent football, player
but he's a converted wide. Receivers here's a here's a good.
Play they're Playing nebraska Or. Iowa he plays the, zone
the zone read, Right he misses the tackle on the quarterback,
right quarterback runs The remember this dude's so, athletic puts
his hand, down chases him, down rips the ball. Out
he doesn't quite have all the linebackery.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Stuff big it, out you know What i'm.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Saying, like he doesn't take the best, angles he's not
the best tackle he's not like physical as a, tackler
but taking on, blocks, yeah covering kicks in, space, like
the movement skills are.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Incredible he's.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Willing that's ALL i want you to do is be.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Willing we can cross them teas and we can dot
those eyes when you get.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Here that's What.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Listen every prospect drafted in this draft is, flawed all.
Right nobody has, Peaked nobody has made it to where
they're going to. Be that's what make pro coaching elite
compared to college. COACHING i want the player that's willing
to do it and has the skill set to do.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
It we'll figure the risks.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Out just give me potential And i'll do the, rest
AND i.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Think about the tackling. Thing you.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Know And Jeremy, green you, know he's a great. Dude
he's been on our draft. Show, Yeah hustle. Analysts he's, like,
well if he's going someplace, like you're gonna learn from
literally the best tackler in the history of THE, nfl
Like Bobby. Wagner they talk about Dan quinn coaching tackling
like that's something THAT i feel like they can help
them get.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
IT i feel like he got a little bit more
Frank louvu AND i can see him diving over the Super.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Dome or something like.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
THAT i feel Like Frankie louvu seems to be the
one that rubs off on this key.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Dude you.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Know so he was at The Shrine, bowl so and
AND i said this somewhere else and again LIKE i
don't want To he's a six round, pick SO i
don't overhype.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Him, no he's, no this dude is.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Talented but, like so they're, there so this is what.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Happens so they're in one on. Ones, right he's playing
one on one at the running. Back he has two
pick sixes in that. Drill and you you remember running
running back one on? One, yeah, yeah the running back
should never lose that.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Drill, no because they got, legs they got the, leverage, everything.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And they can go.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Anyway there's no offensive. Line this guy has two picks.
Drill you go to team watching The Shrine. Bowl he
has two sacks rushing as an. End so LIKE i
just look at. Him i'm like, THIS i don't.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Know what you do with.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Him, yeah but the athletes, there teams teams value right
at the, door excited about the, prospect and hopefully learns that.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Attack and his name Is.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
And THEN i think that leads really.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Nicely Into jacory krossky merrit running back From, arizona who
is maybe the most intriguing.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Kind, yeah very interesting about his little last year mishap
of playing only one, Game, well.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
That says a lot drafted.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It but it's crazy is that he just Mentioned AND
i heard. IT i heard when the scouts say that
play one. Game it was a little mishap with him, transfermed.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
So he may have to miss the rest of the.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Season then he goes and plays in the bowl game
after missing the entire year of playing.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Football and it's even later because it's The Shrine Balls
All star game.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
And you go B nvp of that bowl, Game like
that is hard to.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Do think about how much football he had to, Watch,
yes and it's how hard is it to not go
out there and compete against somebody and still be in
shape enough to go out there and dominate.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
That i've never heard of it to, ME i heard
this story. Before, Yeah i've never seen. It that's.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Impossible he's got a bummer for, Him but like it's
awesome for The commanders because when you watch him so
he was At New mexico before he's he's a three
school guy.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Too yea transferred Up New.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Mexico was like a thout over one thousand yard, rusher
had seventeen, touchdowns seventy.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Two, ers like really good football.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Player when you watch, him there is a like a
running back athleticism the. Pops so for, example at the,
combine his ten yard split was one five and so
think about we were just talking About Jaylen. Lane his
split was one five and he round.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Of four to.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Three, yeah, Right so extremely, explosive. Prosive he had a
forty inch vertical at two hundred and ten pounds, bodyweight burst,
Right and so when you watch, him like his ability
to kind of find the, crease get, downhill kind of
not take a big, shot keep his shoulder pad square
like he's a you said receivers, receiver, yeah or defensive
(45:44):
backs defense like he's a runners.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Runner he got in the priests, home, Dude, YEAH i like.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
THAT i didn't think about, that but that's actually.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
It takes the draft. Room he got to lit priests.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Home And i'm not gonna we're not saying he's A
hall Of fame, Player.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
No, No i'm saying, stylistically like the one thing football
players are always good at is comparing another football player
to a football.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Player that they.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Played like WHEN i see him and at first step
in a, Burst i'm, like, OH i seen this before pres,
home BEFORE i looked at the back of his jersey
when he got little.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
On they kind of are the same kind of.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Body and what he does have is.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Balance like WHEN i play running, backs the first THING
i want to know is what his ballance? Here because
he's telling, me, AM i gonna cut, him lower. Him
i'm just gonna try to wrap him up like he's
a wrap up. Guy if you don't wrap him, up
he will not.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Follow and then you, know now with all the advanced,
analytics you know these bowl games and stuff that The Shrine,
bowl Specifically All Star, game you had the best deceleration
of any player at the. Event so talk about the
ability to kind of stick your foot in the, ground
make someone, miss, stop start like HE'S i think he's.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Got he got a little burying them then, too that
ability to stop is a running back is. Everything he's
got a social skills to set him.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Up SO i THINK i think he in a in
a in a if he plays this last. Year he's
probably a third or fourth round draft. Pick but he
only played one game At arizona and he's here for The.
Commander so WHEN i, SAID i.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
And we'll, see he's.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Got you, know obviously got to Compete gott to warn that.
Spot and he's a seventh round, pick so he's just
above a UD. F. A, yeah but guess what if
you're a seven round pick in a five pick.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Draft, yeah you was drafted with a.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Purpose LIKE i always look at the whole. PICTURE i.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
DON'T i don't look at my new ship like we
only have five. Picks they wanted to make all five
of these picks, count.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
And so we talked about the top and one of
the things THAT i took away is Like Josh, Connolly Trey,
Amos Jalen, Lane Cane, madrono and Uh, Ja Cory Krossky
merrits all the.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Same they all have a.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Shot, yes and there's there's been in years past from
like no way the student makes. It he's going to
be a player maybe in two, years but all these
guys could be, yeah playing football for The washington and, help, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Help help the team.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Win he's in a running back, room with all the
guys there all they all be free agents next, year
so you definitely have a chance to really go out
there and. Compete knowing that these guys you, know on
a last, leg you know WHAT i, Mean so makes.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
No.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Doubt, man that's a great. POINT i got to think
more about that in this. Analysis that's. Great so those
are the five draft. Picks we'll talk more about the
udfas at a later time when that lift list gets,
finalized because it's still a little up in the air
at the, moment but now it's gonna lead us to
risk it for the biscuit thinking you're better than AN
NFL gm presented by marsh mc lennon, agency your partner
in risk in people's. Strategies so what we're gonna do
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in this segment is we're gonna talk about some people
who took a little bit of a, skid AND i guess.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
We'll start with the story of the.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
DRAFT i feel very comfortable saying that In shador Sanders,
yard AND i think a lot of people are, like.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Oh he was the first round.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Talent the more PEOPLE i talked to who saw him
more as a kind of fringe, first so like late
first early, SECOND i Think David, Carr Drew brees type of. Prospect,
Yeah AND i think it's just important to note that
when you are in that kind of, range you should
interview with everybody.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That asks you have to do a good, job.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
And you so also go to The Senior, bowl and
you should also every time you get to showcase your,
talent you should showcase your, talent like this was the
biggest how SHOULD i, say looking in the mirror and
not seeing what's really truthfully there THAT i have ever
seen in my. Life and it's not his. Fault, no,
(49:30):
no it's the nil. Fault LIKE i, said this nil has.
Blurred it would blur like ja because college look like.
This the pros don't look at you like this same
way you think about it between him And Queen orrs
like Quin URRs should have stayed in, college like he
should have stayed in.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
College the guy went into say him.
Speaker 8 (49:52):
ROUND i didn't say he could have made four million
dollars in college and even to make eight hundred, thousand
and the league LIKE i think THIS nia thing and
the pro thing Is finna but hates you, Know AND
i think this was the first view of D.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Well this is an interesting part about.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
IT i think If shrador had done some of the
stuff you're talking, about if you had gone to The Senior,
bowl if you like he went to The Shrine, bowl
if he throws at The Shrine, bowl like let people see. You,
yes do your, thing you know What i'm. Saying and
then if you're gonna, interview, like, remember this is the
biggest interview process annually every, year, right don't so be
basically FROM i, understand and this is all from like
(50:31):
the various. Reports he, Said i'm gonna interview with three. Teams,
Right i'm gonna interview with the top, Pick So tennessee
was It, Tennessee cleveland And New?
Speaker 2 (50:39):
York? Right and apparently he botched the interview with The
New York, giants.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Of, course not seeing him on a chalk.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Bullets and then he, Said i'm not interviewing with anybody.
Else and so if you do that because and he
said and and the other thing he said Is i'm
gonna do that BECAUSE i don't want to play for that.
Team and so all of a, sudden If i'm that,
Team i'm be, like all, right well kick. Rocks and
SO i think, again you just just a mismanagement of.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
The biggest MISMANAGEMENT i have. Ever this is the biggest
draft fall of all. Time Like i'm sorry it.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Is it is like talent, perception all of it all.
Together it was the Big like it was so big that,
we LIKE i, said we wasn't talking about the big
story to, me and it's Cam. Ward Kim ward was
the big story to, me like the rise from zero
to hero cannot be. Compared LIKE i was, like why
(51:33):
ain't nobody talking about Kim? Ward and NOW i know his
suit stump like That santana, FOLK i knew his super.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Stump BUT i was, like this is the story we
should not be talking. About should do? It but because
it was put this.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
High and put on this pedestal to watch him the,
DEMISE i think more people was caught up in the
demise of The sanders name than they were.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Anything that was a lot of things that stood out
to me about the WHOLE i guess you can say
the whole mockery because at one point leading up to the,
DRAFT i heard his name entirely too, much AND i was,
like this is. Odd something's brewing THAT i don't think
it's gonna. Be this is gonna be interesting come.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Draft. Dare, NOW i didn't know what was gonna.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
HAPPEN i had a feeling that it wasn't gonna be
the top ten, guys top ten.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
TEAMS i, mean.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
BUT i didn't have no clue it was gonna get
the way it.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Got and WHEN i saw what ended up, happening they
got to the point of where we the draft was
over for, us for, us you, know covering. It we
was at the draft party AND i someone's, like.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Hey should do.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Fun i'm, like, Oh, diddy and he was, like By.
Cleveland i'm, like, so you mean to tell Me cleveland
always had one of, them you know WHAT i. Mean
they want him to the first time when they, draft you,
know traded the. Draft they want him to the second
time when they ended up getting a. Quarterback so to,
me it looked like something that he did THAT i didn't. Know,
yeah and then WHEN i sat down and watched different you,
(52:53):
know sport, outlooks they basically had the same saying like
we've always been so regardless of his football or. Anything
when you're in an interview for a, job you have
to give these people your, Best, yes be at your.
Best AND i think some of the things that kind
of transpired from when.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
His dad was going through.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
That, yeah he thought he could do the same.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Thing i'm not saying he's. Wrong i'm not saying he's.
Right he took the Wrongpro.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
You have to understand when you're a, Quarterback, yeah they
hold you to a different standard than the Corner VAND i,
think to, me after hearing some of the things that
they said he, DID i was, like, well damn If
momba in the interview caused you to drop That, lotte
everybody who watched this situation transpire shouldn't ever have to
worry about going to anybody's interview again and taking it for.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
Granted you know What i'm.
Speaker 5 (53:44):
Saying, Also i'm gonna tell you WHEN i was, like come,
On shador like stop. It after the first night he
didn't get drafted first, round he started, rapping AND i was, like,
dude at one, point you got to realize you are
not a wide, Receiver you're not a running.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Back you are you are the face of a.
Speaker 5 (54:06):
Franchise you cannot be what we Can you can't do
what we can. Do like the best Quarterbacks i've been around,
it they aloof a little. Bit they still part a
team hyper, profession but they just so, like, MAN i
WISH i could do what y'all.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
DO i just.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
Can't they're locked. In they locked in in a way
and should do. It to, me it was like it's my,
world y'all just living in, it AND i don't think
you can do that as a quarterback like THEY i
think THE nfl went out of their way too humble,
Him like they went out they way too humble, him
and they.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Did they humbled.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
It, YEAH i don't know if it was like, malicious but,
again like if you, said.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
But think about like this, guy about the, process If
i'm If i'm the.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
The, STEELERS i was semi pissed off of, them.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
And i'm, like, man and you're, sure And you're, LIKE
i don't want to interview with you Because i'm not.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
GONNA i don't want to play for. You like DO
i just take you off my? Board?
Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah maybe, Yes like, yeah because people are, like.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
You don't want to play for?
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Me, people first of, all who are you? Right it
ain't but thirty two of? Us it's thirty two of?
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Us and at what point did he not think BECAUSE
i get drafted by this, team don't MEAN i can't
eventually play for this, Job.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
Like at what point do you?
Speaker 4 (55:21):
Miss it almost balls down to me, too even if
you know with him being the what the fifth quarterback
in the quarterback room With, CLEVELAND i Think cleveland has
a chance.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Now they have leverage to, say, hey we got should do.
It who need a? Quarterback may we have this guy
who need a? Quarterback it's Very Kirk. Cousins it's at.
Speaker 4 (55:43):
The point now where If cleveland feel like we can
get something for this guy because a team need, him
they can go ahead and make it.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Dim he might mess around and start there like they
have so many we think he's a talented. Player BUT
i just think this is this is a this is
a really good peak besides behind maybe into like what
the professionalism level of these?
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Interviews, yeah like so like.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
It's really funny like doing stuff on the field.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Correct so like WHEN i call my buddies And i'm
talking him about certain, Guys i'm, like oh what about PLAYER,
X and, like, YEAH i didn't love him in the,
Interview LIKE i had multiple conversations with guys WHERE i
was Like i'm gonna tell THE gm to take him
off the.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Board, yeah BECAUSE i.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Didn't he didn't interview well with, me And i'm nervous about.
IT i don't really like, him and it's and it
just is a nice peak behind that. Process and, again
like you, Know dion is his dad trying to provide
a good. Advice but one of the things the agent
does that's really really valuable is that they have connections
with all the gms in THE. Nfl so you'd be,
like what's your great on? Him do you think he's
gonna Go, Yeah i'm sure he would have been able
to get better advice somebody was plugged. In, Yeah AND
(56:42):
i think that makes it really. Challenging LIKE i think
about the way my agent, handles you, KNOW i do
tight end development for him, now, Right so WHEN i
talk to him and he's, like, oh, yeah he's gonna
go at this pic in this, range And i'm just,
like And i'll be damned of every year it isn't
the exact. Range but that's valuable because then you're, like,
hey you need this, Son you got an interview with
all these.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
Teams, no it's.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
Realistic he's giving you a realistic view of what it
really is and they're not gonna devoge this To. Prime
they will do they will devote this to an agent
because they've got, relationships AND i gotta deal with.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
This agent year in and year, Out Like i'm gonna
deal with him next.
Speaker 4 (57:17):
YEAR i could tell, You like some of that too was.
Transparring and the first THING i thought about was, like
it's some of these people who have THOSE i guess
you can say those who make those calls probably don't
even want to Call prime because being that He's. Prime,
Yeah and they was a little you, know they feared
him a little, way you know WHAT i. Mean and
(57:38):
this thing about, it IF i got a funny feeling about,
you you don't Think i'm gonna feel funny about your.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
Son you see What i'm.
Speaker 4 (57:44):
Saying like like being a person of, Business, yeah no
matter what we're, doing how good you is at what we.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Do IF i ain't got.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
The best relationship with, you, Yeah i'm gonna look at
your son, like well he might be the same.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
Person, bingo you know WHAT i.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
Mean so that's WHAT i was thinking the whole time
this was going, On, like but, damn the ain't they
ain't taking it out on him.
Speaker 5 (58:04):
This reek of LIKE i ain't gonna. LIE i was
watching the, DRAFT i was like, this, reeks DO i
should johnny manzaiel like should? Do it had some Johnny
Man's Aiah. Colonel it had This i'm, Brash i'm Gonna
i'm gonna play Quarter i'm gonna do quarterback in my,
way MEANING i know we're supposed to be, politicians But
(58:25):
i'm gonna be more like an.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
Entertainer it had wreaked Of johnnyman's Al.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
But ALSO i THINK i don't think.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
IT i don't THINK nfl teams care that much about that,
Specifically LIKE i think you've played with guys And i've
seen guys be successful that are. Bigger Kim newton's a good.
Example he's a big, personality you, know.
Speaker 4 (58:46):
Very articulate and Sure i'm Sure cam killed his his
his his.
Speaker 3 (58:51):
Meetings and that's What i'm.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Saying you can be, brash brash if you handle your,
business money your.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
Business and so if you.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Are brash and you don't be, there but.
Speaker 4 (59:00):
You better be good on that board that chop, boy
you better be good.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
Enough, Interviews Like Kim ward is a brash, Dude like
he's like when you watch him an interview and we
watch him with his teammates like he's, aggressive he's, confident
but it's.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Business it's, Business AND i think.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
That that's something that, again like there's just and then
the other THING i just want to point out to
IS nfl teams don't want to deal with a.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
Headache they, don't so like if.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
You are going to bring all of this stuff with,
you this brashness the prime LIKE i think about, IT
i call It Tim tebow. Syndrome, Right like everyone's Like
Tim tebow is good enough to be your third tight
end In New, York like he was good enough to do,
that but no one wants to have a press conference
about about your third tight. End no one wants to
have a press conference with your fifth. Quarterback like that's
just annoying the. Coach you got to answer questions about,
(59:44):
it because think about every single question In cleveland now
is going to be like he should do, it how
should you're, playing what's he?
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Doing what's going?
Speaker 1 (59:51):
On because that's what you write stories, About and it's
just a headache from a media. Standpoint SO i think
that's again just A i think he's a really good case.
Speaker 5 (59:58):
Study he, is and everybody forgot.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
That Dealing gabriel with third.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Round think about how he handled the. Process he went
to The Senior. Bowl yes he crushed the, Interviews, yes
everyone loved.
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Him, yeah but he's. Tiny, look, Man i'm.
Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
So far removed from the, draft BUT i. LEARNED i
learned so much watching. That, MAN i.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
LEARNED i learned a. Lot and it's the craziest part about.
Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
It days removed from the, DRAFT i changed my whole
perspective of, it you know WHAT i. Mean LIKE i
was thinking one thing And i'm, like, oh so you did.
That you can't do, that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
You know What i'm.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Saying LIKE i was more.
Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
BIG i was sitting up pissed, off, like, man you
can't do this city people because Of. Prime and then
after days of watching it and here And i'm, like, oh,
well this wasn't really About. Prime it might be a little,
bit but this question about you're not your, dad thank,
You you're.
Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Not, There you're not.
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Exceptional come in here and be what we want to
want you to. Be and then we would give you
that floor for you to hold your hand high and say.
Legend they all, that but you have to come in
here and you ain't legend, there and.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
It's not even be what we want you to.
Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Be it's just be a be, Approve, yeah a Pro
i'm saying what you want to?
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Approve, yeah be a prod in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Anything and uh so again that's.
Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
SURE i think he's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Microcops and the other ONE i just wanted to call
attention to real quick because we're gonna wrap here is Well.
Johnson everyone's, like we should have Taken Well johnson at twenty.
Nine we should say he had a degenerative nee issue
that was reported after the, draft and so you better
believe every single team in THE nfl knew that and
that's why he. Falls and so you see stuff like,
that you're NOT i, know everyone's like always tapes, good but,
(01:01:29):
like what was the receiver of that?
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Put Malcolm?
Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Kelly, yes we had mackham, here and we get we
didn't get.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
A yoid out of maclem because the knees because his pre,
surgery and SO i like those are things that as
fans and even us as, analysts we're always privy to
and so like understanding the medical, understanding how significant was
call that?
Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Pick weel justin to be one of my stars in
that draft, OFF i don't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
REMEMBER i THINK i DID i have just blew. It,
no you're, okay but that's gonna do. It for today's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Show please make sure you like to subscribe to get
your podcast always appreciates you, guys tune, in and please
just remember we started the gorilla.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Thing we. Do we, do not one hundred people though
On today's upisode The Command Center Podcast, we have RFK news,
exciting for fans, exciting for DC. Can't wait to talk
about that. We've got the draft recapp Did they get
five guys.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That are going to start for this team?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We'll talk about that's more and we can't escape it.
No one can escape it. Fadora Sanders News. It all
starts right now. Welcome to The Command Center Podcast. I'm
Wigan Pulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and guys.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I got a bone to pick. I got a problem
up right.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, So you guys have seen this gorilla thing that's
floating around like one hundred guys versus one gorilla.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I think we had this conversation a year ago.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We had this conversation a year ago, and just for
the record, I was talking about this same setup. Yeah,
I think it was. I was still playing, I was
here in Washington. I want to say it was like
two thousand. It was Trent Murphy's rookie year, so twenty thirteen.
So this has been on my radar for well over
a decade. Man versus animal man and specifically a gorilla.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, a gorilla.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And so obviously they've you know what I'm saying, They've
changed it because I think you hurt yourself, right, like
when you say, oh, one hundred dudes versus Grilla, because
you got shirts, you got shoes, you got stuff, Like
in mind, you're butt naked.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
How many people needn't take to beat the gorilla that's mine?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So you want to, you won't even ground.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I want to. Gorilla is naked, that's what I want
to see.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
See he's in his habitat when he has no shoes on.
You need shoes, you need something to get away from
his ass.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But I'm saying, like in this room, there's there's a
silver back grilla over there in the corner. How many
people does it take if you're in your birthday suit
to beat that thing today?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm gonna tell you that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I think I remember saying I'm going to exit the
room and let y'all do what y'all do.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
But I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I don't know, but I do remember us talking about
this way before.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So Jason kept the receipts in August of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, we talked about it. We have comments on the
video like ye man versus and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Fans, I'm a little disappointed. You guys were like, man,
I've heard this before.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, like why not say commands in the podcast say
it this like, no, mister, he sprawled because anything you
missed the beach, dude, it's cool.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
But Commands said that we just dudes.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, And I do think, like, you know, the hundred
guys is interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, but I've asked some like Special Forces dudes this question.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, and they kind of look at you, you know,
they got that tough face and like five five.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, but you gotta tell him no. Women like come on, like,
let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So you get this.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The first time I asked the Special Forces guys and
I was like, oh, in this room, right hair, I'm like, yeah,
there's no mic stands, everything's gone. He goes okay, and
he looks up at the ceiling and he's like what
is What do you think that is? And I was
like it's probably dry wall, and he's like, I could
punch through that and there's probably piping in there. And
I pulled some stuff out, pull some screws out, and
I was like, this dude is just on a different different.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He's looking for whom did you can't.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
One guy's like, I think I could probably get electrocute
him with the outlet, and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So basically telling you that the humans won't fight fair.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I can't this. This is the thing about it that
you think about it. So even if I said, hey, man,
you just in here by yourself, yeah, you birthday suit,
go kill that gorilla, it would take probably a thousand people.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
There's no number because like the no, no, I'm not
gonna do human beings like that, because we got some
big human beings.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You are big human beings.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But dude, I'm telling you so, Like I think about
when I fight my son, for example, so I'm two
seventy my son's one hundred pounds. Yeah that's not exactly
the same, but it's probably closer.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, I would demolished.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I would mess my son up if it was like
you know what I'm saying, And eventually I'd get.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Tired, Like if he was just like, way he go.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
The thing that we got that the gorilla just never have.
We can pry up, we can plan, but we can
plan the attack. That means we don't.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Take a smart man.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
They know what you're thinking from the get go.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
As soon as you're thinking about that instinctive, they're more instinctive.
Now here go.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
If I got ten Logans, if I got ten Logan pulses,
one thing we can do is if I can get
one Logan Polston around the neck, happen neck. What I'm
saying is we don't hold the hands.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You're crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Look for some This is the craziest one I heard
was like, hey, I could I could do it with
five people. I said, is I need someone who's really
sick about to die, and then need four able bodied people.
And I was like, what are you talking about. I'm
going to send that guy over there so then to
get beat up and then we're going to take his bones
out and get after it.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
But but think about it, though that work, So you
don't you don't sacrifice one guy to the guys.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We're not everyone's going to make it.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But but then if you if you just tweak the
if you tweak the parameters a little bit, and I say, hey,
here you get a five pound weight from the weight room. Yeah,
now we got a shot. Now we're cooking with gas.
I say, here's a blade.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Oh one dude, so basically with that whipping the eyes
and something, we don't got a change.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
What I think we got a chance.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't think the numbers matter as much as the
mentality of the dominion.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
That's what I'm because if you have one hundred Jason's
in there, yeah, nah, but you could do five logans
something good. This is because I'm not doing.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
This is a job for the people that society has
pushed to the side.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The other one that I like to is I talked
to my green brave buddy about it, and he said,
five people. He's I think we could fatigue it because
you could just mess with it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And if you could just.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Stay out of reach of the gorilla and tire it
out enough, it's gotta play the long game.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
No, that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You gotta realize, I think about it, like you could
tire the thing out though.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Do you not realize? No, fighting against a vegetarian gorilla
is a vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What does that have to do with anything?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Well, you ain't gonna get tied. No, vegetarians don't get
off the top.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
That vegetarian is not the biggest animals on earth. Fits
is a vegetarian. Talk giraffe is a vegetarian, like vegetarians
grow bigger than meat eaters.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Meat eaters have more energy than vegetarian.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So let me just say that's great something because it's
always tries to be absolutely in the same when people
like you ever seen the skinny gorilla, they all eat
his bamboo or something like that, Like it drives me nuts.
You know, they have a special enzyme in their gut
to help them digest the fiber and turn into a protein.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Like that's it's not the same, right, Like.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
So when a person what you gotta say about the
elephant d well, Okay, it's a sperm.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Wheel, It's okay, sperm wheel is a carnivore.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
No, I'm just saying, what you got a carnivore. Yeah,
but they also eat the smallest particles in.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The sperm wheel eats giant squid you're thinking of belly,
thinking of a blue ye blue, And they eat krilled,
which is also a animal.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But it's also micro.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm just thinking about how free and knowing all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's it's just micro.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's it's not it's it's like a little shrimp. Yeah
I know.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, but it's like Melliams.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, but so they're they're also eating proteins, like animal
based proteins.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But we can't say that the garrilla is a vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Grill is vegetarian, yes, but it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's it's they don't have nothing to do when it
comes to it's energy.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
All I'm saying is we ain't going down by the
hands of a vegetarian.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Do you understand me?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
In ninety nine dudes, I'm gonna tell these dude before
this match, this is a vegetarian.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
We gotta take him down.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's your Yeah, we will, just as you stand in
the back like.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
We would not lose totarian, were going to the steakhouse
after this.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You understand me, You're not losing.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Long story short, this was our thing. Yeah, yeah, before
like seriously like that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
We got no love.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
We got to say that we brought this up and
had a long talk about this when we just had Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But you brought this up, so give us some love.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
If you see that out there inside, you.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Know, hey, mister bees didn't do this. Is this mister basting,
Yes it is really this is a mister Beestein. And
you know when mister Beach touched something, it turned to
go it's pretty wild. If mister Beach touched something and
he just shows up in your city with some idea
like I'm finna jump off a building. Like he shows
(08:00):
up in your city, he gets a billion views and
now he's the man.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Now he say fight a gorilla. We said this a
year ago.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Nobody with I fan base did grab They did talk
about it, but the world didn't grab it.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But now it's the b said.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He's got it. He's got it, all right. So that's yeah.
Just so it's our plea to you as a fan base.
Just help us out all bit here.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Just show us some love, all right?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
And uh so In more Commander's based news, obviously, the
RFK news is out now looks like that there's an
opportunity for the stadium to be built at the old
RFK site, which is really exciting for the city of
d C. It is exciting for the fan base, and
obviously it's still incredibly early in the process, but at
least it does seem to be taking steps in that direction.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Hollowed ground, Yeah, hallowed ground, Like you want to talk
about the dads and the sons, that's gonna rejoice sending
in them stands like it's gonna be nostalgia.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It is finest, all right. Uh.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I once got asked by a fan like a week ago,
did you play at Rkade.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm like, I'm not that old, you know, I played
at RKAY.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
What in college?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
They played the Eagle Bank Bowl there? Yeah, and uh yeah,
I played.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The Eagle Bank Ball c l A. Yeah, U CLA.
We played Temple and the Eagle Bank Bowl and win.
So we did win.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So Dad, what year was that?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It was two thousand and nine, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
The whole time I've been here, that thing looked like
it by the fall.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
No, but you remember the Nats played there also, and
they did play them bowl games, and.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I will say it was one of the most miserable
experiences I've ever had, not because of the stadium, but
because it was like really cold and the field, you know,
there's like that one open end down there, yet it
was completely frozen, like asphalt frozen, and so you fall like.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
You'd slip because they had to paint the field.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Green fields painted green.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, and anytime you fell, like I fell in the
first quarter, like I got tackled and someone fell on
me and it and I bruised all my ris and
I was just like it was terrible, you know what
I mean, because like imagine playing tackle football, like clearing
the cars out and playing in your cleats, like that's
what it was.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So funny.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
The youngest one of us has played at RFK and
the two oh he has ain't played it.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And it was cool, Like it was one of those
spots where it's kind of like not not the same level,
but you know when you go to Lambeau and you're.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Like, yeah, yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, the Micha but.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You kind of felt like there was ghosts in the
building a little bit, you know, which is kind of cool.
Like yeah, So obviously, like we're really excited about it.
Was really cool to see Roger Gidel at the press conference,
like yeah, and hopefully that keeps for guessing. If you
want more information about it, make sure the Commander's dot
com for more. There'll be a story up there on
the website, so make sure you check that out. All right, So,
now that we've got the gorilla thing, which was maybe
(10:43):
the most important thing in the show, let's give us
some love on that. Yeah, the RFK News, let's recap
the draft, and let's start, I guess with super high
level and you know, like the Commands only had five
picks in the draft. Yeah, and I was kind of like,
usually like national media is not super psyched about like
those low volume drafts. They say, oh, we need more
volume to have a good draft. But there's a news
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outlet that aggregates all the mock drafts that kind of
compares your draft to the mock draft. Commanders were the
number two team by that metric. CBS Sports A minus,
AP and News B plus, UH Sports Illustrated, b NFL
dot Com b PFF B plus, and The Ringer B.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So I think.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Overall, that'll get you high on a row.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
People pretty good about the people feel pretty good about
the Commander's drafts.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, I feel great about it. I think we all
said this though that night, you know, both Nicely was here.
It just seems different. It has a different kind of.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Or to it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I don't even know if I can use or for
a word, but it seemed like for the years and
especially the years of us playing, we were just getting guys.
You know what I'm saying. You see a name, Okay,
we got them. We have five six receivers though we
got two more, you know what I mean? And now
I think everything is intentional. You know, they going out
there getting it's actually going to really ben fit what
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we do as a team, you know what I mean.
It's fitting what we do and who we are. So
that's what's intrigguing to me, just seeing that you're getting
guys that fit your culture and you getting guys that
fit what we do offensively and defensively and also special teams.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I know you a winning organization when you have none
sexy drafts, when you don't get the names everybody think
you're gonna get, like when you have those Kansy City
type drafts. When you have that, we just have the
big guys, like, nothing sexy about that. We'll get athletes
in the back end of around. Like it's like hip
(12:34):
hop music. Just because you got a hot song, don't
mean you got a hot album. Like Kendrel and mar
wins all the awards because his work has some validity
to it, not Juicy Jay, and I love Juicy Jay.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
But it's club.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
It ain't win any no awards like, so it don't
have nothing to it. Like now that we having these drafts,
these drafts have something and like I said, I think
it's a great thing that we want these dre.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Up peaks, But do we need these dray up peaks?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Wan? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And I think to kind of piggyback off of that,
like B Mitch said something similar on the live show
that we did on Draft Night, where he's like, you know,
it's so funny that fans get mad, but sometimes the
best drafts are ones where you don't know the names. Yes,
I think a lot of it is like I studied
a lot for this draft, I said, a lot, And
thank god, I've actually watched all of these players before
the draft started. But like you can't watch like the
(13:31):
director of college scouting, I watched five hundred guys. Yeah,
he'll have a report written up on five hundred football players. Yeah,
and you know the GM will probably watch three point
fifty to four hundred. He's you know, they they're kind
of trying to distill information down to him. And I
have never I've yet to meet a fan, even people
who are super locked in from a draft perspective wise,
who watch that many guys. Yeah, And I just think,
(13:52):
like trust that, especially now with how smart teams are getting.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, teams are smart now the draft, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Never like, well that guy's are reached, Like especially the
last year, I wasn't like, oh that's a terrible pick
at all, kind of fell in line. People are smart, man,
and they're getting better and better from an analytics perspective
about distealing this thing down. The one thing that I
took away from this draft, and we're going to talk
about each pick individually, here is you got five players.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, I think all five of.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Them have a really good shot of making the team,
and very rarely do I feel that way about a draft.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So when you got a guy in the seventh round
in Jacory Krofsky Merritt, who is I think got a
really tremendous upset as a runner, I think you could
make the squad. Yeah, And that's very rare. And so
I think that's one thing to think about. And the
other thing I just want to call attention to this
is there's five people on this sheet, but I don't
think this represents the draft class. And what I mean
by that is you got Deebo Samuels with that fifth
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round pick, So you're kind of in this in this desert,
not picking for a long time from one twenty six
to two forty five or whatever it was like insert
answered Deebo Samuels there, right, you know you don't have
that third round pick and Shirt Marshall and ladim in
short marsha On Antimore, and you don't have a draft
pack next year, but you have Laramie Tungs and I
look at if you add those names to this draft,
we would It's hard to think of a group that
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did that did quote unquote did.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
The draft did better?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, because you're not going to find guys that's no.
You can say that that's that's already half. I guess
you can say, what's the word I'm trying to use.
I see, I'm going I'm having brains.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Just established guys.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
They established guys that's already have they you know, that
been in the league long enough to go out there
and say, okay, we can we can depend on these guys.
You know, most most guys in the draft, on most
teams in the draft, they're drafting these guys, banking and
hoping that hey, these guys have to play right now.
And that's one of the things that Adam Peter said,
you know that was interested to me. Is just before
we have to pick a guy tonight, you know, we
(15:42):
can go play right now with the guys that we have. Yeah,
So before we picked the guy, we had three guys
already from from using our draft capitople that come to
help this team and and and help us have.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
A better year than we had last year.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
So I guarantee before I take that, what if the
draft is a big old weddy? What if we coach
him right? What if we got the right scheme? It's
always a wood if the Laraman Tussel is not a
what if? Deebo Samuels is not a what if Marshawn
Lattimore is not a what if? I know what I'm
getting when I'm dealing with these guys, so when you
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put them in this jail class we want.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, And I think this also taught me something about
the draft. And what I mean by that is like
I've always thought you want to build through the draft,
and you do. But like when you think about like
draft capital as like money for example, right, it's money
to make your team better. It's a resource to make
your team better. And so when you are allocating some
of those resources to establish known commodities, Yeah, that's still.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
A good draft process because you're still growing your team
in that way.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So I think that especially with I mean, this is
just team building, like philosophy. You've got a franchise type
player in jayde and Daniels on a rookie deal. The
window the Super Bowl windows, Now, yeah, we got to
be more aggressive and we use our draft capital to
get that done them. So I think that that's kind
of what I learned from this.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Like I looked at the draft like a selling a house.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Like if I want to sell a house, I got
a couple of hot spots in this house.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
If I upgrade them, I can get more money.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
And that's the kitchen, that's the bare bathroom, all right,
and maybe the backyard. But anything else that I put
money in is a wasted it's a waste.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And something in the backyard of the waist. Yeah, you
know what I'm.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Saying, Like I just want to I think the draft,
we we literally hit especially with the taco currently that's
kitchen to me, this kitchen work. We add that extra pantry,
we adding that extra what's the name in there, and
it's bringing value to the house. It's bringing value to
the house. And I think that's the big thing that
you want to do. Because now that I sit down
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and I really looked at it. I was talking to
Shen yesterday. I said, she, now that I look at
this office line, if I started the left tack and
I go across, I got a Pro Bowl left tackle.
I to me, Coleman has Pro Bowl capability at guard.
I have a Pro Bowl center, Sam cosmi back, I
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got a Pro Bowl guard. So I'm already three for
four and Pro Bowl is on my offensive line.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, four four, And then I got this.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
New uh freshman basically tackle, Like, I have a solidified
line right now, I have I have road.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Greaters at that line. So if you.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Look at it from that perspective, we have the trench
warfare that we need to win in this league right now.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And I think like when you've got you know, like,
look I look at the last couple of years, you know,
with the Washington Commanders, and it's the offensive line has
been a little bit upper down. Now it's limited what
you can do offensively. And I think these are smart
steps to help maximize your quarterback. They're smart steps to
help maximize your run game. Like it's really like everyone
talks about skill position players, and that's important. Like the
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spine of the team is your offensive.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Office is offensive defensive line. I'm sorry, this is where
everything starts. This where everything ends. I have always been
an advocate of the dudes disma like Bacon.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, and so Josh Connelly tackle from Oregon, I think
is a great example of this. Like he's big, he's six',
five he's three, fifteen three eleven whatever he. Is he
ran as like a five flats depending on who you're
your tostop watches like a five flat or a four nine.
Forty he's got a thirty four and a half inch.
Vertical he's, explosive he's got long, arms got thirty four in.
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Charms like he's kind of like the mold right when
you look at the analytics for the tackle, position like
can you get a little bitch bitch bigger and? Stronger
sure they all, can BUT i look at, Him i'm,
like man, like there's a lot of growth potential. There
same thing With coleman and SO i think it really
does a lot in terms of raising.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
The floor of the.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Offense tanna AND i think about like you as a
receiver and how like when you have a great old
line to.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Protect like those shots.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Down the field become a little bit, easier the offense
becomes less, horizontal and that's super.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Important AND i think too when you look at, It
like one of the THINGS i mentioned on draft night
we picked them, up thought about thinking about how much you,
Know cliff had the hold back because he had to
keep guys in the block tight, end you, KNOW i mean.
Blocking and we was out there winning with two or
three guys in the.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Routes it was a.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Masterclass, Yeah Like cliff got in his bag so much last,
year they forgot about The cliff that they was trying
to you, KNOW i guess you had a big narrative
was oh.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Late in the, Season cliff.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Disappeared that was going on for about a week and
then he got in his bag and, said oh that's
how y'all feel about. Me i'm gonna show. 'all and
then you get a guy And jaydon that's so. Accurate
that's so on. Time you're getting these guys running their
routes the. Way now we're getting more help up there
to where he, Said, okay NOW i can get two
more guys out of the. ROUTE i could get five.
Guys you KNOW i want to, do so that's what
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you look for. It and it was funny because it
wasn't a sexy. Pit it wasn't guys that was happy.
ABOUT i was driving home And i'm listening to late
night radio and they was, like oh, yeah BUT i
didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Who was that. Guy and THAT'S i love.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That WHEN i heard from the, fans that's the same
way they felt about Dan quinn coming.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Here oh why did we get? In we wanted the
other guy From.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Detroit so when you when you hate and when you
when you're a fan base and you're not happy about
the moves that's being, made you understand that the people
who really know what they're talking. About, yeah you, know
you have to be like a guy like. Myself it's
real happy about it because you don't, know but they,
do AND i trust in what they. Do and So
i'm just happy because we talk about depth and seeing
Cous me go down last, year seeing how those guys
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stepped there for Cous, me and now to know that
we have other. Guys we added another guy to go
along with those. Guys, man you're just gonna have the
advantage to go out there and, say, man who are
ready to play this.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Week we're gonna pick our best fights stuff for. Room
we stuffed two rooms during this. Draft we stuffed the
offensive line room to. Capacity we stuffed the defensive back
room to. Capacity it's gonna be competition. There it's gonna
be also the. Talent the floor of talent is here
or now now it's, here like it's, nothing and it's
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to the point in those two.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Rooms we have saym cars me go.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Down if we have A, jones go, Down like it's
just play who you, Want like it's guy's good lord
in there and that's what you. Want that's what championship teams.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Do, YEAH i think it's funny BECAUSE i did hear
a lot of fans be, like who's this? Guy AND
i honestly LIKE i was surprised BECAUSE i feel like
for years That i've been in ounced here like everyone's like.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Offensive, line we needn't.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Prove it's like get one.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Here it's like we are improving the offensive. Line not
they want to hear you do.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
It maybe they want to name, you like you, know
the one thing about the draft is like going to
a car, Lot like WHEN i Say i'm gonna go
get a new.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Car WHEN i come, back you you waiting on.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Something but IF i pull up in the Al, camino you, Like,
pops what? Happened, no the Al, CAMINO i can actually
work and.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Drive like the, expectations and the expectation was so high.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Up who are we gonna get edge? Rushier they gonna
get an Edge.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Russia we got somebody to protect from an edge. Rusher
and that's what you gotta.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Like like it. Be men said.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It anytime the fan base is, disappointed you did your.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Job you did your.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Job because if the fan base is happy on Draft,
day that mean you you kind of played into the.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Choir you kind of did what they wanted you to.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Do and not only, that, man you made a great
point about what we miss talked.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
About if you really paid us into the.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Draft The giants go out there and get our dual
carter and we, said. Checkmate this guy here played him and.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
He had no. Sacks mold.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Him, no he basically blanket this guy the entire. Game
and not only just a dude caught, it but basically
everybody he you, know went up.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Again so there they was. Playing they was playing.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Chess yeah in our, division saying, okay you got this.
Guy we're gonna go get a guy that's going TO
solidi file us even more upfront to keep them a five,
clean you.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Know, yeah and to kind of support tennis. Point he
had zero, pressure zero, pressures not, sacks zero pressures allowed
IN teni for ten of fourteen.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Games, yeah, like, no it is easy to give up a.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Pressure pressure is a. Pressure You it's, like, OH i
miss misset. This i'm a little getting pushed, Back like
that's pretty crazy to.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Me you, know this is a defensive player that's, Unbelievable
like at Least i'm will get around and almost get. That,
mean ain't no guy almost getting there like? This that's
that's that's keeping it. Clean and that's WHY i named
Him David banner because when He's, david he's a very,
cool calm. Guy he was he was super, chilling you,
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know he was, chilling but he turns into the credible
home this win.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Things shange know.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What's crazy, though it is some of the best TACKLES
i played, With Like Laramie tunseel was like, This Jake
matthews was like this little.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Bit they're really.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Calm Nice Chris Chris samuels, same very nice guys if
you shake their hand with no pants, on when they
put these pants, on something, changes something like something changes
where they just want to.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Grab people and they want to.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Malve, yeah indeed they turned it right back off and
then they go for ice.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Cream SO i don't know what happens to these.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Guys and even in the, huddle like you, know like
they're very they're kind of, funny they're kind of joking,
around and then all of a, sudden it's like this
like that that they just go, dark like right when
they say he, like.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's just like they choose bad right, now choose.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Bad it's very.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Strange so, obviously Really i'm really excited About Josh. Connorley
LIKE i don't know if you guys checked out the
big board on the, website but he was my fourth
tackle AND i had him going kind of right in that,
range AND i think right before the, pick it's like
of the players, available he was definitely in that four
kind of four players that we're really excited. About so
that was. Awesome another guy that again like not tochoot
my own, horn but like was right exactly WHERE i
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thought he would go Was Trey, amos the cornerback from All.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
MISS i THINK i brought him, up DID?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I so we, did And i'm going to give you
credit here.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Them we talked about it in the break and we,
SAID i was, like you can talk About shamon novel
Or samos And pole, immediately just LIKE i want to
talk About. Ramos so we didn't talk about. It and
you and we did you like?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
HIM i know you like? Him AND i think he
was like number five on YOUR dB. Ranking he's very.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
High, yeah, Yeah so but At Trey, Amos, man it
kind of feels the same way As Josh connelly, Does
like as the board was, falling kind of opened that
door and it's just, like, oh, man here's here's the.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
First round guy that basically slipped to us in the second.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Round and, again like the things THAT i like about
him are his. Size he's about he's six ft a
little bit, over kind of six y, one about two hundred.
Pounds he's played at multiple, schools, right he's got this
kind OF i love guys now in college football who
he started as Raging cajun goes To, alabama doesn't work,
out he gets, relegated transferred schools To Ole. Miss like
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he had to find his to.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Fight, LIKE i love. Guys they had to fight their way.
Up that's WHY i love Cam. Wood like Cam ward
went from a zero start recruit to the first in
The dreil and and everybody just want to talk about
you do.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It And i'm, like that ain't what we should be talking.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
About we should be talking about this guy who entered
college is a zero.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Star that means you stink damn.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
SONO i mean nobody has put yeah shifting you.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
UP i mean he just.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Happen he didn't get the eyes that everybody else. Got
that's what it really. Means So i'm, like we want
To Fred smoot's coming out of college because we ran
them out all day and.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
They had to watch WHEN i capt him, OUT i
WAS i had to go to junior. COLLEGE i wouldn't
LIKE i want everybody raid out LIKE i had. TO
i had to work for. THAT i wouldn't got.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
YOU i wasn't That, Yeah and he definitely had to
work for, it, Right and SO i, think, uh, like
when you look at, HIM i think the thing that
sticks out And, fred you could probably speak to this
better is the ball skills are. Excellent, YEAH i think
he's got good. Physicality like there's a, competitiveness.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You, know like fire about him THAT i.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Love you watched like The South carolina game IF i remember,
correctly and he's Checking, harbor who's like six, five two
hundred and forty pound wide. Receiver, yes and you would
have Thought harbor was. Nobody yeah you know WHAT i?
Mean and, yeah, yeah and really got after. Him love
that can play and zone can. Plan, man there are
some times where he's a little his footwork gets a
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little bit. Off he's not, like but this went pro.
Coaching not the best, Tackler but, again those THINGS i
think are given the type of guy he just seems to.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Be seem like they're easily, correct but he's a willing.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Tackler i'm Not he'll throw it in.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
There so just to be, Clear i'm giving context on
why he might be a sixty. One like, AGAIN i
had A i think you could have took him at
twenty nine AND i would have been, like that's, awesome
you know WHAT i. Mean SO i really liked the.
Player But i'm just kind of saying, like these are
some things to keep an eye. On and, AGAIN i
think you look At Joe Whitt junior And Dan quinn
their pedigree with TV's like in their ability to get
the most out of guys and what they did With
Mike sanders. Leaving you, KNOW i know we Give Benjamin
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saint just's a hard, time but they made him the
best version of. Himself, yes AND i think this guy's
way more instinctive.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And, polished way more, polished and way more of a.
Bawl he's a, Ball he's a cornerbacks.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Cornerback, yeah with a guy that if you Was, Dion
dion want, Him he want him on his.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Squad he.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Won't he want a guy that's gonna go out, there
go out to the, ball be in a guy's, face
ain't backing, down got something to say out. THERE i
mean that's WHAT i. SAW i saw a guy that's
ready to, play no great ready to be, changed but
he's good at. Everything he doesn't have one great, thing
he's good at.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Everything So, jason you got sixteen passes defended on here
that led THE.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
SEC i think it was.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Seventeen i'm that's, crazy that's, ridiculous that's. Awesome BUT i think.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
It speaks to What tanna is talking about THAT i
THINK i had twenty three coming.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Out we're trying to talk about this one over, Here
jason got y'all can fact checked.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Me we're just but it's, ridiculous right and so and
so for him to again three three, interceptions he just
shows an. Awareness, Yeah AND i think like that's one
thing that WITH dbs THAT i often, Undervalue like when
you compare him To Chavone ravel not as aware of
the football in the, air, right this guy is like
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he made.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
A pick who was?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
It you probably are you talking about in the end
zone the one day he somebody threw it up in end.
Zone he literally jumps out the end, zone catches, it
flips over and.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You kind of got rolled like someone kind of understand
some undercomeany the play on the.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Ball tanner, Was it's.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Unbelievable it was, incredible and so LIKE i just, think
like that's the kind of guy that it just a good, ball,
awareness good, position got to clean up some, stuff nothing too,
major but some. Stuff AND i just, think how do
you think that affects the? Defense like, where like where
do you see him fitting in and like what's his
role like moving?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Forward you THINK i think it's it's icing on the,
cake if you know WHAT i, Mean like you got
this core group of, guys and then you bring in
this other guy and he can like all, right you
Got Mikey. SAMMERSTEVE i think you think he moves back
to the. SLOT i THINK i think it'll outs allows
him to move back into the. Slot now you got
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another tall guy on the outside, side press corner.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Outside and then you still Got Jonathan. Jones don't.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Forget you still Got Jonathan.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Jones so you gotta you got a treasures of wealth right.
There you got so like, this you're not one injury
away from everything.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Shattering like it's just kind of where they were last.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Year, yeah like we was like one guy goes down
and it's over.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
WITH i don't think we're there.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Anymore LIKE i think it's gonna be a run on
the position WHERE i don't because you start three corners these.
Days it ain't two corners that you start, three, RIGHT
i don't know the store in three right.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Now that's a good problem to have a great problem.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Now and SO i, mean OBVIOUSLY i think he projects the.
Outside yeah he's.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Not and, again just to be, clear like he's got
to compete for, this he's got to win this, opportunity
like Like tennis, said like they did a great job
of making. Sure we've got a bunch of really hyper
competitive dudes who can play. Football so he's got to earn.
It BUT i think him outside, Center sli, Inside, yeah
and Then marshall.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
And then you still got that think about. It we
can play, INSIDE I, john The jones can play. Inside
they all can play. Outside so now you got you
got a rotational right there that you can't Be AND
i think it.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Just gives you that that that competitive edge as a
defensive back room that you're gonna have a bunch of
guys in there trying to get out there on that.
Field so everybody going to be out there playing their best,
game you know WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Mean, so and it's kind of what The connorley picked
us for the old. Line it's just.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Stuff you get your best in this case three if
you're in dime four and with the intensive, line to
get your best five out, there and that's all you
can ask, for that's all you can. DO i just
want a lot of, competitiveness all. Right, So, TANNA i
don't know if you've watched this guy at. All the
next guy they picked at what was the pick, Eight,
yeah Was Jayleen lane wide receiver For Virginia, tech AND
i just wanted. TO i knew he had a good,
combine SO i was, like let me just let me
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just go back look up what he. Did AND i
was quite frankly blown away by his.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Number so let's get.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
This four three, Four no like? Me, yeah four three
four forty yard dash? Insane one five ten yards split also,
insane that's Un guess what his vertical jump?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Was Forty guess what his broad jump? Was eleven eleven?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Eleven are you out of your?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Mind eleven feet get out of? Here three cone drill
six point seventy.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Five that is.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Elite that is. Elite that's like the movement, skills sinking.
Cuts and then a four one two second three twenty
yard shuttle and fourteen reps of the bench. Press SO
i see, that And i'm, like you are not gonna fight.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Ten of man my.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Measurements what was your VERTICAL i tell, You i've cleared
everything all forty?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Two, YEAH i need to just stop.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
That let this man hide himself.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Up AND i ain't even trying to hype himself. Up but,
no that's.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Ridiculous but do you think but just to get so
just to give, context your forty was a ford to my.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Forty they rounded up to four three. One that was
the fastest in our. Class BUT i ran for.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Eight that's pretty. Close WHEN i got Jail land and
what was your Vertical my vertical jump?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
WAS i cleared all forty? Two we had forty. TWO
i cleared it with the bottom of my. Hand that
gave me like forty. Four, yeah me. Too but they
didn't they.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Didn't they didn't really have broad jumped off my BROAD
i don't. KNOW i don't even THINK i broad jumped
because ONCE i did, that they was, like, man this,
dude day is.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Over like my day was kind.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Of but, again like our guy Jail lane has a
forty inch broad. Jump he ran a four three four.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Like you doing that at five.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Ten you're talking about a guy and he.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Is he two hundred thanks probably not even so not
only is he, fast not only is he, quick he's also.
Strung happened was the? Fourteen, yeah SO i need it
once like one. TIME i, mean, NO i ain't even,
bench BUT.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I probably if you ran a fourth, THREE i. Would.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah we was mentioning the house at um, SO i
mean you know that wasn't a.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Problem but the.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Thing about, me the thing that's so crazy that raised
my eyebrows WHEN i watched his film cut up just
the highlights that they were showing most of those punk.
Returns he, returning he's breaking tackles like he's running through arm,
tackles and then he. Hollering then he getting getting missing on.
You so you know you got a guy in here
that's going to be definitely you, KNOW i can see
why you SAY i Got iso was going going, Crazy,
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yeah because to, me that's that's a part of our
game that you want to. EXCEL i mean, that just to,
me those are first downs that you can't account. For
you know What i'm saying as a punk. Returner you,
know my coach is always tell me TEN i need
two first. Downs i'm, like, cold you're talking ABOUT i
need you getting more than ten. YARDS i need you
get at least twenty. Yards you know What i'm.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Saying so that's that's two first downs for.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Us so when you when you got a guy like
that who can change the field after that that ball
is kicked and and it touches his, hands that put
our offense in a better you know range of going
out there and doing.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Them he got the trace to get what we called
in the defensive back. Room he finna get little on.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
You like when the dude started getting, smaller they mean
he running away from he getting little when he turns
in a two inch, Man, yeah you probably thirty miles
away from this guy has the ability to turn to
the main and this what you. Want you won't big
playability and once he gets, little you don't see nothing
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but the last MAY i love.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It the other, thing, too is LIKE i think about you,
know you talk about the, returnability LIKE i do think
there's gonna be a slight regression in terms of fourth down.
Conversion you know it's eighty seven percent last year that
you can only go, Back, yeah your fourth your third
down was like forty, seven which was second.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We no touch push, second we know touch.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Push so there's gonna be a little bit of a
just a slight regression, Obviously like those are just unsustainable.
Numbers but all of a, sudden you bring in a
guy in the return game who can give you two first, downs,
right you don't have to be converting all those first
Down you can get scores on special, Teams like that's
a really dynamic. Thing and THEN i do, think LIKE
i like his offensive. Film, yeah you watch The offense
At Virginia, tech AND i don't know if we have Any.
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Hoki Watching offense was kind of hard for me to.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Watch it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Stinks it's not.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Great let's be, Honest, Like i'm not going to sugar coat.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Nothing it's like kind of like this r P o triple,
Options like it's a weird. Deal and so the receivers
are kind of in a tough. Spot BUT i will
say this dude will.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Block.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, yeah he's tough with the ball in his, hands
like you're watch him break. TACKLES i think his route
running nuance is better than what he was able to show.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Him, WELL i think he's A.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Bloomingdale the key Is oh and if the key is
is t MoU, right this guy is Blooming. Day he's
an Upgraded he's a the key is with rams on.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, well BECAUSE i think is a heck of a.
Football but this, guy he's all the more. Gasoline that's
What i'm.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Saying he's just paramount and buddy paramount. PLUS i would say,
Great BUT i.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Did have that, thought BUT i watched. HIM i was
like he reminds me a little bit of that's WHAT i.
Say but he can hit a home run all the.
Time it's just kind of. Cool, Yeah and again the
play strength is, cool like AND i think about like
what he could do for the, offense you, know, like
obviously you Lose Johnny, brown like that straight vertical guy
to carry stuff out for, Career like it's.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Nice and now he's that. Guy he can he can be,
That so he's.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Got To, again he's got to earn this, too, Right
but there's a in terms of like what he could
mean for the, offense role for the, offense roll on
special teams right at the. GATE i don't know if
he can cover, kicks but he plays like he, Can like.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
It's just like a tough. Dude SO i really getting
that guy at one twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Eight, LIKE i love that pick because it's just great,
value fits fits the culture of the team really well
and obviously very. Exciting, now maybe one of my favorite
players in the draft is the next guy they, Drafted
Caine midrano FROM ucla Fil.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Pops let's not say that he's your favorite because you
love brilliant brew bias here baby blew in.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Going.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
On but ifraid you watched.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Him, yeah like he's six, three he's two twenty to
twenty five, again all, readers athletic profile in a, second it's.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Unbelievable fastest linebacker in the draft with this dude.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
MOVES i don't know if he's a safety all. Linebacker
he plays LIKE i, Say i'm.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Sorry he has this thing to him like WHEN i watched,
FILM i like to see guys THAT i don't have
to wonder where you at on the, field especially it's
a defensive, player LIKE i want you to be, like.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Hey it's me and, right and this is what his film.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Said WHEN i turned the film, on he looked at
me and was, like, yeah check me, out but you
get loaded This it just he had a pick six
that he literally picks the ball up coming downhill right,
now he picks the ball, off run past the offensive,
tackles literally gets like ten yards from the end. Zone
somebody try to cut him load so for him screens
(40:01):
around like he jumps Like i'm, crazy he's a Linebackers
like this is Why i'm like what he really is
on this?
Speaker 7 (40:09):
Level converted wide receiver that part think about, that you
know WHAT i?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Mean and then he's a, hybrid you, KNOW i, mean
like why why why force him to be anything but
what he? Is you need him in a, box put
him down, there you need to.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Cover let him, cover you know WHAT i?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Mean like he's he to, me he brains something to
this defense that we've seen that we had in Shen
chin and like how we Had. Flower you, know he
was one of those guys that you didn't know what
he was, like was he a linebacker?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Edge you know WHAT i?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Mean so he has that about his, game WHICH i
feel like that fits what we, do you know WHAT i.
Mean he's a football player and he's a guy that's gonna.
Flyer he's the guy that, say, look, man go out
there and do your. Job and that's WHAT i. SAW
i saw that jumped. Off he jumped off the chocks
when it came to just being around the.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Football very very.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Instinctive you, know even when he wasn't making the, interception
he made to play on the, ball making it hard
for the other, guy you know WHAT i, mean or
making EASY i for what other guys to come out
and then get the PEAK.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
A lot is, though should be happy about this one.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Too team as a sixth round, player like his home
is going to be. Teams BUT i think what we're
kind of pointing to here is, like so just in one,
GAME i forget who they were playing is a Red
he might have Been, NEBRASKA.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
USC i don't remember Roming.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Nebraska and so he lined up as the star so
like over the slot, player running with, receivers, yes filling
all that s, place playing r. Po the next, play
he's lined up at mike, linebacker taking on pulling guards
and getting under. Stuff on the third, play he's lined
up at like defensive end in the edge, rusher rushing
the tackle for a. Pressure and so it was, like,
(41:37):
wow he sounds like really he's an excellent football, player
but he's a converted wide. Receivers here's a here's a good.
Play they're Playing nebraska Or. Iowa he plays the, zone
the zone read, Right he misses the tackle on the quarterback,
right quarterback runs The remember this dude's so, athletic puts
his hand, down chases him, down rips the ball. Out
he doesn't quite have all the linebackery.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Stuff big it, out you know What i'm.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Saying, like he doesn't take the best, angles he's not
the best tackle he's not like physical as a, tackler
but taking on, blocks, yeah covering kicks in, space, like
the movement skills are.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Incredible he's.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Willing that's ALL i want you to do is be.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Willing we can cross them teas and we can dot
those eyes when you get.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Here that's What.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Listen every prospect drafted in this draft is, flawed all.
Right nobody has, Peaked nobody has made it to where
they're going to. Be that's what make pro coaching elite
compared to college. COACHING i want the player that's willing
to do it and has the skill set to do.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
It we'll figure the risks.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Out just give me potential And i'll do the, rest
AND i.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Think about the tackling. Thing you.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Know And Jeremy, green you, know he's a great. Dude
he's been on our draft. Show, Yeah hustle. Analysts he's, like,
well if he's going someplace, like you're gonna learn from
literally the best tackler in the history of THE, nfl
Like Bobby. Wagner they talk about Dan quinn coaching tackling
like that's something THAT i feel like they can help
them get.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
IT i feel like he got a little bit more
Frank louvu AND i can see him diving over the Super.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Dome or something like.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
THAT i feel Like Frankie louvu seems to be the
one that rubs off on this key.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Dude you.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Know so he was at The Shrine, bowl so and
AND i said this somewhere else and again LIKE i
don't want To he's a six round, pick SO i
don't overhype.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Him, no he's, no this dude is.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Talented but, like so they're, there so this is what.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Happens so they're in one on. Ones, right he's playing
one on one at the running. Back he has two
pick sixes in that. Drill and you you remember running
running back one on? One, yeah, yeah the running back
should never lose that.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Drill, no because they got, legs they got the, leverage, everything.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And they can go.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Anyway there's no offensive. Line this guy has two picks.
Drill you go to team watching The Shrine. Bowl he
has two sacks rushing as an. End so LIKE i
just look at. Him i'm like, THIS i don't.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Know what you do with.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Him, yeah but the athletes, there teams teams value right
at the, door excited about the, prospect and hopefully learns that.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Attack and his name Is.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
And THEN i think that leads really.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Nicely Into jacory krossky merrit running back From, arizona who
is maybe the most intriguing.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Kind, yeah very interesting about his little last year mishap
of playing only one, Game, well.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
That says a lot drafted.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It but it's crazy is that he just Mentioned AND
i heard. IT i heard when the scouts say that
play one. Game it was a little mishap with him, transfermed.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
So he may have to miss the rest of the.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Season then he goes and plays in the bowl game
after missing the entire year of playing.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Football and it's even later because it's The Shrine Balls
All star game.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
And you go B nvp of that bowl, Game like
that is hard to.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Do think about how much football he had to, Watch,
yes and it's how hard is it to not go
out there and compete against somebody and still be in
shape enough to go out there and dominate.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
That i've never heard of it to, ME i heard
this story. Before, Yeah i've never seen. It that's.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Impossible he's got a bummer for, Him but like it's
awesome for The commanders because when you watch him so
he was At New mexico before he's he's a three
school guy.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Too yea transferred Up New.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Mexico was like a thout over one thousand yard, rusher
had seventeen, touchdowns seventy.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Two, ers like really good football.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Player when you watch, him there is a like a
running back athleticism the. Pops so for, example at the,
combine his ten yard split was one five and so
think about we were just talking About Jaylen. Lane his
split was one five and he round.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Of four to.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Three, yeah, Right so extremely, explosive. Prosive he had a
forty inch vertical at two hundred and ten pounds, bodyweight burst,
Right and so when you watch, him like his ability
to kind of find the, crease get, downhill kind of
not take a big, shot keep his shoulder pad square
like he's a you said receivers, receiver, yeah or defensive
(45:44):
backs defense like he's a runners.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Runner he got in the priests, home, Dude, YEAH i like.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
THAT i didn't think about, that but that's actually.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
It takes the draft. Room he got to lit priests.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Home And i'm not gonna we're not saying he's A
hall Of fame, Player.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
No, No i'm saying, stylistically like the one thing football
players are always good at is comparing another football player
to a football.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Player that they.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Played like WHEN i see him and at first step
in a, Burst i'm, like, OH i seen this before pres,
home BEFORE i looked at the back of his jersey
when he got little.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
On they kind of are the same kind of.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Body and what he does have is.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Balance like WHEN i play running, backs the first THING
i want to know is what his ballance? Here because
he's telling, me, AM i gonna cut, him lower. Him
i'm just gonna try to wrap him up like he's
a wrap up. Guy if you don't wrap him, up
he will not.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Follow and then you, know now with all the advanced,
analytics you know these bowl games and stuff that The Shrine,
bowl Specifically All Star, game you had the best deceleration
of any player at the. Event so talk about the
ability to kind of stick your foot in the, ground
make someone, miss, stop start like HE'S i think he's.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Got he got a little burying them then, too that
ability to stop is a running back is. Everything he's
got a social skills to set him.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Up SO i THINK i think he in a in
a in a if he plays this last. Year he's
probably a third or fourth round draft. Pick but he
only played one game At arizona and he's here for The.
Commander so WHEN i, SAID i.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
And we'll, see he's.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Got you, know obviously got to Compete gott to warn that.
Spot and he's a seventh round, pick so he's just
above a UD. F. A, yeah but guess what if
you're a seven round pick in a five pick.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Draft, yeah you was drafted with a.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Purpose LIKE i always look at the whole. PICTURE i.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
DON'T i don't look at my new ship like we
only have five. Picks they wanted to make all five
of these picks, count.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
And so we talked about the top and one of
the things THAT i took away is Like Josh, Connolly Trey,
Amos Jalen, Lane Cane, madrono and Uh, Ja Cory Krossky
merrits all the.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Same they all have a.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Shot, yes and there's there's been in years past from
like no way the student makes. It he's going to
be a player maybe in two, years but all these
guys could be, yeah playing football for The washington and, help, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Help help the team.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Win he's in a running back, room with all the
guys there all they all be free agents next, year
so you definitely have a chance to really go out
there and. Compete knowing that these guys you, know on
a last, leg you know WHAT i, Mean so makes.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
No.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Doubt, man that's a great. POINT i got to think
more about that in this. Analysis that's. Great so those
are the five draft. Picks we'll talk more about the
udfas at a later time when that lift list gets,
finalized because it's still a little up in the air
at the, moment but now it's gonna lead us to
risk it for the biscuit thinking you're better than AN
NFL gm presented by marsh mc lennon, agency your partner
in risk in people's. Strategies so what we're gonna do
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in this segment is we're gonna talk about some people
who took a little bit of a, skid AND i guess.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
We'll start with the story of the.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
DRAFT i feel very comfortable saying that In shador Sanders,
yard AND i think a lot of people are, like.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Oh he was the first round.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Talent the more PEOPLE i talked to who saw him
more as a kind of fringe, first so like late
first early, SECOND i Think David, Carr Drew brees type of. Prospect,
Yeah AND i think it's just important to note that
when you are in that kind of, range you should
interview with everybody.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That asks you have to do a good, job.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
And you so also go to The Senior, bowl and
you should also every time you get to showcase your,
talent you should showcase your, talent like this was the
biggest how SHOULD i, say looking in the mirror and
not seeing what's really truthfully there THAT i have ever
seen in my. Life and it's not his. Fault, no,
(49:30):
no it's the nil. Fault LIKE i, said this nil has.
Blurred it would blur like ja because college look like.
This the pros don't look at you like this same
way you think about it between him And Queen orrs
like Quin URRs should have stayed in, college like he
should have stayed in.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
College the guy went into say him.
Speaker 8 (49:52):
ROUND i didn't say he could have made four million
dollars in college and even to make eight hundred, thousand
and the league LIKE i think THIS nia thing and
the pro thing Is finna but hates you, Know AND
i think this was the first view of D.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Well this is an interesting part about.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
IT i think If shrador had done some of the
stuff you're talking, about if you had gone to The Senior,
bowl if you like he went to The Shrine, bowl
if he throws at The Shrine, bowl like let people see. You,
yes do your, thing you know What i'm. Saying and
then if you're gonna, interview, like, remember this is the
biggest interview process annually every, year, right don't so be
basically FROM i, understand and this is all from like
(50:31):
the various. Reports he, Said i'm gonna interview with three. Teams,
Right i'm gonna interview with the top, Pick So tennessee
was It, Tennessee cleveland And New?
Speaker 2 (50:39):
York? Right and apparently he botched the interview with The
New York, giants.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Of, course not seeing him on a chalk.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Bullets and then he, Said i'm not interviewing with anybody.
Else and so if you do that because and he
said and and the other thing he said Is i'm
gonna do that BECAUSE i don't want to play for that.
Team and so all of a, sudden If i'm that,
Team i'm be, like all, right well kick. Rocks and
SO i think, again you just just a mismanagement of.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
The biggest MISMANAGEMENT i have. Ever this is the biggest
draft fall of all. Time Like i'm sorry it.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Is it is like talent, perception all of it all.
Together it was the Big like it was so big that,
we LIKE i, said we wasn't talking about the big
story to, me and it's Cam. Ward Kim ward was
the big story to, me like the rise from zero
to hero cannot be. Compared LIKE i was, like why
(51:33):
ain't nobody talking about Kim? Ward and NOW i know his
suit stump like That santana, FOLK i knew his super.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Stump BUT i was, like this is the story we
should not be talking. About should do? It but because
it was put this.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
High and put on this pedestal to watch him the,
DEMISE i think more people was caught up in the
demise of The sanders name than they were.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Anything that was a lot of things that stood out
to me about the WHOLE i guess you can say
the whole mockery because at one point leading up to the,
DRAFT i heard his name entirely too, much AND i was,
like this is. Odd something's brewing THAT i don't think
it's gonna. Be this is gonna be interesting come.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Draft. Dare, NOW i didn't know what was gonna.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
HAPPEN i had a feeling that it wasn't gonna be
the top ten, guys top ten.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
TEAMS i, mean.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
BUT i didn't have no clue it was gonna get
the way it.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Got and WHEN i saw what ended up, happening they
got to the point of where we the draft was
over for, us for, us you, know covering. It we
was at the draft party AND i someone's, like.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Hey should do.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Fun i'm, like, Oh, diddy and he was, like By.
Cleveland i'm, like, so you mean to tell Me cleveland
always had one of, them you know WHAT i. Mean
they want him to the first time when they, draft you,
know traded the. Draft they want him to the second
time when they ended up getting a. Quarterback so to,
me it looked like something that he did THAT i didn't. Know,
yeah and then WHEN i sat down and watched different you,
(52:53):
know sport, outlooks they basically had the same saying like
we've always been so regardless of his football or. Anything
when you're in an interview for a, job you have
to give these people your, Best, yes be at your.
Best AND i think some of the things that kind
of transpired from when.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
His dad was going through.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
That, yeah he thought he could do the same.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Thing i'm not saying he's. Wrong i'm not saying he's.
Right he took the Wrongpro.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
You have to understand when you're a, Quarterback, yeah they
hold you to a different standard than the Corner VAND i,
think to, me after hearing some of the things that
they said he, DID i was, like, well damn If
momba in the interview caused you to drop That, lotte
everybody who watched this situation transpire shouldn't ever have to
worry about going to anybody's interview again and taking it for.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
Granted you know What i'm.
Speaker 5 (53:44):
Saying, Also i'm gonna tell you WHEN i was, like come,
On shador like stop. It after the first night he
didn't get drafted first, round he started, rapping AND i was, like,
dude at one, point you got to realize you are
not a wide, Receiver you're not a running.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Back you are you are the face of a.
Speaker 5 (54:06):
Franchise you cannot be what we Can you can't do
what we can. Do like the best Quarterbacks i've been around,
it they aloof a little. Bit they still part a
team hyper, profession but they just so, like, MAN i
WISH i could do what y'all.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
DO i just.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
Can't they're locked. In they locked in in a way
and should do. It to, me it was like it's my,
world y'all just living in, it AND i don't think
you can do that as a quarterback like THEY i
think THE nfl went out of their way too humble,
Him like they went out they way too humble, him
and they.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Did they humbled.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
It, YEAH i don't know if it was like, malicious but,
again like if you, said.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
But think about like this, guy about the, process If
i'm If i'm the.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
The, STEELERS i was semi pissed off of, them.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
And i'm, like, man and you're, sure And you're, LIKE
i don't want to interview with you Because i'm not.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
GONNA i don't want to play for. You like DO
i just take you off my? Board?
Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah maybe, Yes like, yeah because people are, like.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
You don't want to play for?
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Me, people first of, all who are you? Right it
ain't but thirty two of? Us it's thirty two of?
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Us and at what point did he not think BECAUSE
i get drafted by this, team don't MEAN i can't
eventually play for this, Job.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
Like at what point do you?
Speaker 4 (55:21):
Miss it almost balls down to me, too even if
you know with him being the what the fifth quarterback
in the quarterback room With, CLEVELAND i Think cleveland has
a chance.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Now they have leverage to, say, hey we got should do.
It who need a? Quarterback may we have this guy
who need a? Quarterback it's Very Kirk. Cousins it's at.
Speaker 4 (55:43):
The point now where If cleveland feel like we can
get something for this guy because a team need, him
they can go ahead and make it.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Dim he might mess around and start there like they
have so many we think he's a talented. Player BUT
i just think this is this is a this is
a really good peak besides behind maybe into like what
the professionalism level of these?
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Interviews, yeah like so like.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
It's really funny like doing stuff on the field.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Correct so like WHEN i call my buddies And i'm
talking him about certain, Guys i'm, like oh what about PLAYER,
X and, like, YEAH i didn't love him in the,
Interview LIKE i had multiple conversations with guys WHERE i
was Like i'm gonna tell THE gm to take him
off the.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Board, yeah BECAUSE i.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Didn't he didn't interview well with, me And i'm nervous about.
IT i don't really like, him and it's and it
just is a nice peak behind that. Process and, again
like you, Know dion is his dad trying to provide
a good. Advice but one of the things the agent
does that's really really valuable is that they have connections
with all the gms in THE. Nfl so you'd be,
like what's your great on? Him do you think he's
gonna Go, Yeah i'm sure he would have been able
to get better advice somebody was plugged. In, Yeah AND
(56:42):
i think that makes it really. Challenging LIKE i think
about the way my agent, handles you, KNOW i do
tight end development for him, now, Right so WHEN i
talk to him and he's, like, oh, yeah he's gonna
go at this pic in this, range And i'm just,
like And i'll be damned of every year it isn't
the exact. Range but that's valuable because then you're, like,
hey you need this, Son you got an interview with
all these.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
Teams, no it's.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
Realistic he's giving you a realistic view of what it
really is and they're not gonna devoge this To. Prime
they will do they will devote this to an agent
because they've got, relationships AND i gotta deal with.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
This agent year in and year, Out Like i'm gonna
deal with him next.
Speaker 4 (57:17):
YEAR i could tell, You like some of that too was.
Transparring and the first THING i thought about was, like
it's some of these people who have THOSE i guess
you can say those who make those calls probably don't
even want to Call prime because being that He's. Prime,
Yeah and they was a little you, know they feared
him a little, way you know WHAT i. Mean and
(57:38):
this thing about, it IF i got a funny feeling about,
you you don't Think i'm gonna feel funny about your.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
Son you see What i'm.
Speaker 4 (57:44):
Saying like like being a person of, Business, yeah no
matter what we're, doing how good you is at what we.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Do IF i ain't got.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
The best relationship with, you, Yeah i'm gonna look at
your son, like well he might be the same.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
Person, bingo you know WHAT i.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
Mean so that's WHAT i was thinking the whole time
this was going, On, like but, damn the ain't they
ain't taking it out on him.
Speaker 5 (58:04):
This reek of LIKE i ain't gonna. LIE i was
watching the, DRAFT i was like, this, reeks DO i
should johnny manzaiel like should? Do it had some Johnny
Man's Aiah. Colonel it had This i'm, Brash i'm Gonna
i'm gonna play Quarter i'm gonna do quarterback in my,
way MEANING i know we're supposed to be, politicians But
(58:25):
i'm gonna be more like an.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
Entertainer it had wreaked Of johnnyman's Al.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
But ALSO i THINK i don't think.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
IT i don't THINK nfl teams care that much about that,
Specifically LIKE i think you've played with guys And i've
seen guys be successful that are. Bigger Kim newton's a good.
Example he's a big, personality you, know.
Speaker 4 (58:46):
Very articulate and Sure i'm Sure cam killed his his
his his.
Speaker 3 (58:51):
Meetings and that's What i'm.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Saying you can be, brash brash if you handle your,
business money your.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
Business and so if you.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Are brash and you don't be, there but.
Speaker 4 (59:00):
You better be good on that board that chop, boy
you better be good.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
Enough, Interviews Like Kim ward is a brash, Dude like
he's like when you watch him an interview and we
watch him with his teammates like he's, aggressive he's, confident
but it's.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Business it's, Business AND i think.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
That that's something that, again like there's just and then
the other THING i just want to point out to
IS nfl teams don't want to deal with a.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
Headache they, don't so like if.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
You are going to bring all of this stuff with,
you this brashness the prime LIKE i think about, IT
i call It Tim tebow. Syndrome, Right like everyone's Like
Tim tebow is good enough to be your third tight
end In New, York like he was good enough to do,
that but no one wants to have a press conference
about about your third tight. End no one wants to
have a press conference with your fifth. Quarterback like that's
just annoying the. Coach you got to answer questions about,
(59:44):
it because think about every single question In cleveland now
is going to be like he should do, it how
should you're, playing what's he?
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Doing what's going?
Speaker 1 (59:51):
On because that's what you write stories, About and it's
just a headache from a media. Standpoint SO i think
that's again just A i think he's a really good case.
Speaker 5 (59:58):
Study he, is and everybody forgot.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
That Dealing gabriel with third.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Round think about how he handled the. Process he went
to The Senior. Bowl yes he crushed the, Interviews, yes
everyone loved.
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Him, yeah but he's. Tiny, look, Man i'm.
Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
So far removed from the, draft BUT i. LEARNED i
learned so much watching. That, MAN i.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
LEARNED i learned a. Lot and it's the craziest part about.
Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
It days removed from the, DRAFT i changed my whole
perspective of, it you know WHAT i. Mean LIKE i
was thinking one thing And i'm, like, oh so you did.
That you can't do, that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
You know What i'm.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Saying LIKE i was more.
Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
BIG i was sitting up pissed, off, like, man you
can't do this city people because Of. Prime and then
after days of watching it and here And i'm, like, oh,
well this wasn't really About. Prime it might be a little,
bit but this question about you're not your, dad thank,
You you're.
Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Not, There you're not.
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Exceptional come in here and be what we want to
want you to. Be and then we would give you
that floor for you to hold your hand high and say.
Legend they all, that but you have to come in
here and you ain't legend, there and.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
It's not even be what we want you to.
Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Be it's just be a be, Approve, yeah a Pro
i'm saying what you want to?
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Approve, yeah be a prod in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Anything and uh so again that's.
Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
SURE i think he's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Microcops and the other ONE i just wanted to call
attention to real quick because we're gonna wrap here is Well.
Johnson everyone's, like we should have Taken Well johnson at twenty.
Nine we should say he had a degenerative nee issue
that was reported after the, draft and so you better
believe every single team in THE nfl knew that and
that's why he. Falls and so you see stuff like,
that you're NOT i, know everyone's like always tapes, good but,
(01:01:29):
like what was the receiver of that?
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Put Malcolm?
Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Kelly, yes we had mackham, here and we get we
didn't get.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
A yoid out of maclem because the knees because his pre,
surgery and SO i like those are things that as
fans and even us as, analysts we're always privy to
and so like understanding the medical, understanding how significant was
call that?
Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Pick weel justin to be one of my stars in
that draft, OFF i don't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
REMEMBER i THINK i DID i have just blew. It,
no you're, okay but that's gonna do. It for today's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Show please make sure you like to subscribe to get
your podcast always appreciates you, guys tune, in and please
just remember we started the gorilla.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Thing we. Do we, do not one hundred people though
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