December 25, 2025 • 42 mins
Super Bowl Champions Gary Clark and Brian Mitchell are joined by Fred Smoot talk all about the Washington Commanders matchup against the Dallas Cowboys on Christmas Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The band.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This family will come into the game day preview podcast
from out here in Ashpord, Virginia at the c Rian.
I'm here with some amazing gentlemen who we're also here
with some amazing commanders fans.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Let's give it up for them real quick, because we've been.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Doing this all season, law every home game, and this
is the last one, fellas.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's not just the last one, it's the last one
of the year. It's Christmas time.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We got a lot of things going, and we got
some great guys here, Gary Clark, Brian Mitchell, and of
course Smoother Clause pulled an us Fred Smooth from out
here at DC PROP.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
First, these first fellas, Merry Christmas. We're all fathers here,
just hit a little different for us. We get nothing.
We ain't got no gift we get.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's why I brought gifts for y'all, because we don't
get living it fathers with socks and discussing gifts.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So we had to give each other great gifts.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Now, Fred, I will say, you surprised me a little
bit with your gift when you came in with two bags.
I said, at least one of these is gonna be
a joke and very insulting.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Either of them were It wasn't insult.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You didn't to London, he didn't find a way insult.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I know what I'm saying is Ryan thought the same thing,
Jan thought the same thing.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Why why don't you'all trust me? When I say I
got you trust?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
All? That sounds like this is a youth thing? What
she most people that thought that of you? I can
see if I gave you a gift card, now I
can see why.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
But you told that's what you used to do, give
gift cards, knowing why I didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I didn't take that approach. But I love to give
gift cards because if it's the thought that counts. Don't
worry about how much money on the gift car.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, if you don't, you're trying to get something for
one hundred and fifty and you got nothing on it.
I put ten dollars on their car.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
About now, Fred, I'm gonna start with you, because like
you said, dads don't get really no gifts.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah we don't.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Saying it was thinking about dad's which he never does.
What would you ask Santa.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
For this shit? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Sam, don't close my eyes. I want ten ten my way.
I take a Lamborghini with a Ferrari.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Work to man modest.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Know what I'm saying is, if you're gonna ask for something,
you might have wear ex hide because you're gonna probably
get right there in the middle.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So I want a thirty point victory on Thursday. That's
what I want to come, thirty point number thirty.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
You know that kind of way?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Cupping it man him so much? No, no, no, no, no,
it's my number Gary. What about you? Man? What you
ask center for?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I want to be fresh, smooth when I grow up?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh, stripping Freddy.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Because he's having some nice skifts that he's getty for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Listen, you got a ring? I ain't got.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I ain't getting no ring in football. I couldn't even
keep the wedding ring. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I think that through Fred it was my fault. I
was too young when I did it. But Fred, I
don't know saying it can help with that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But you know what, if I was the assent of anything,
it'd be more days here at DC Prime with y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Fellas. Man, this has been such a great season. This
previewing these games. I wish fellas, let's get right into it,
because this is kind of crazy to think about. This
blew my mind. We're playing in our first Christmas Day
game ever.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
This is kind of wild to think about what DC's
team and we have never played the Chrismas game be
even so I'm gonna go to you for this one.
Because of all the things we've done historically, it's kind
of wild to still be part of history when we
play Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's kind of funny that no game ever fell on
Sunday that was on the Christmas you know, at home
or something like that. It's kind of weird, but you know,
it's great, and I think it was all based off
of what happened last year. What they expected. This year,
you know, didn't work out the way they expected it,
but you know what, we'll get a chance again. But
I just think that you have an opportunity. And listen,
(03:44):
there's two games on Thursday two. Make sure somebody say, hell,
that team didn't have a good year, but they came
out to play today. This is a game about pride.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, I understand people saying that this rivalry has changed,
but when I rolled into this spot in nineteen ninety,
nobody had to say a word when food when Cowboys
we came, you can cut it in the air or
(04:18):
so thick. Coaches didn't have to say one word. Players
didn't have to say anything. But everywhere you went, fans
let you know what it was about. And now it
comes up and it's like we're playing a preseason game.
It's not a lot, but you know those players got
to have something in them like the thing. For me,
it connected me with the fans. The hate that the
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fans had, I had, and I tried to take it
to a different level. So that game, Bro, you look
at the Dexter Manley, Darryl Grant when he when Brian
Middleson started dancing in the end zone. You know, I
could go back and look at some games man, where
we had they were the worst and they beat us.
We were the worst, and we beat them up.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
For this game.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't care what the records are. This is your rival,
hated rival. You got to go out there and play
like you like it means something. And the NFL just
really start to take over Christmas.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
The NBA usually had Christmas and we usually have Thanksgiving,
and we always played on Thanksgiving. So that's why they
never really put us on Christmas game because we already
had a national Holiday game.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And it's kind of wild. The NBA is actually losing
games while we're gaining games. So be Mis said, O
odd is going to be on us, and this is
a big game. And Gary, we talked all the time
about motivation for these games. Yes, we know we're not
going to the playoffs. Neither is Dallas.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
This is the NFC East. There's nothing quite likely, like
b Mis said, And I know back when you played,
it was the same type of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I know you wanted to beat Dallas always. I mean
the NFC East period. Back when we played, it was
the division either San Francisco's Gowin or some team from
the NFA East winning super like every year for like
about seven to ten years in a row. It's gonna
be San Francisco or a team from NFA NFC East.
But I mean, this is something that has to build upon.
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Like you want to go out on a winning streak.
You want to win this game. You want to go
ahead and finish out and pick you know, you want
to beat the Eagles. You want to go out on
the winning streak so you can build going into next year.
There's nothing worse than starting the season if you lose
out and I don't think they will. I think I
think the team's going to find a way to find pride.
They have to. And also you'll find the players that
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you expect to play next year. When you're down in
the dumps, you'll find the guys who really go to
dig down or come out and play. And if I'm
a guy now who've never had a chance to play,
and I get my chance to play now in these
two games, I'm going to straight up ball because if
I ball now, I get a shot next year to
play good whether the whole season. So it's good. It's
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been a tough year. You know. I'm trying my best
to say nice, nice things. Yeah, it's just been a
tough year. It's been a tough year for the team.
But you know, as long as you finish off strong,
you have something to build upon for the next year.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, Gary, let's let's talk about the past a little bit.
Then we don't gonna put you in no position to
not speak positively. So when you look at these nfcast
battles Man.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Center, our flagship show.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I don't know if you're watching it, if you haven't watched,
checkon it all the commands you Tube page it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
For Thursday, the Man Center, we had this segment where.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We asked all the guys what their favorite NFC East
opponent was when they were playing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What was your favorite NFC East team to play and why?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Well, I love playing against Dallas because Dallas was just
a big deal. But the team that I hated the
most was the Giants. Hated the Giants. Giants kicked her
butt like three years in a row. They swept us
like three years in a row.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So I hated the Giants. So a lot of my
best games, I don't see it was against the Giants,
but we lost. I don't even count them. We lost
those games. I don't even count him as my best game.
Lost count.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That will be the same question for you, because you're
very interesting because you've played for two NFC East teams.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Oh, he's played for three? He sold? Is sold? Play
for three?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You played for the team that that won't you show
you that you? Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
The best team that I loved playing against it was
the Eagles because when I went when I was going
to the Eagles for ten years with Washington, those fans
were like Spike Lee. I called them Spike Lees of
the NFL. They made you play. And then I went
there and those same fans loved me and hated everybody
like you know, they were on my side. And then
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the third my fourteenth year I'm in New York, I
wanted to play against them again because I hated the
general manager, Joe Banner, you know, so they always they
got me. And I say, fans look at the cowboy
Indian thing, and that's why they say Dallas. But I
think those Eagles and Giants games might have been as tough,
all worse than when we played against Dallas. The Eagles
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games were physical as hell. The Giants, man, you go back,
you think about you know, Carson and Tailor and Banks.
They had some serious people on that defensive side of football,
you know, but it was always Dallas because I think
that goes in to history and all that type of stuff.
But you're out looking at that whole the whole division,
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no matter who you playing, like the Cakewalk was going
to when we go to Phoenix. You know, I don't
know how the hell they end up in the NFC,
but you know, and I guess I'm showing my age.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
They started off in Saint Louis. That's okay, but Sant
Lewis is not the East Idels, so that's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But I loved going to play against them as well
because I always felt that their field felt more like
that fast track faster because and I had great games
against the Corners, but the Eagles was the one I
love shutting the crowd up and Fred.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
For those that didn't get to watch it, because it
hasn't come out yet, can you share who you It's
very similar to Gary.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Who you preferred to player who you enjoyed playing the most? Oh,
it was the Eagles them bleach your creatures. Listen.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
The first time I ever played there be Mitch was
an Eagle flying high. It was a brawl in the Stateum,
it was a Monday night game. They had to stop
it just when it was at the link and the
link had a jail house at the bottom of your
because I heard that room.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, it was a right of pass.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, it was a rite of passage for the fans
to spend the night and leave that next Monday morning,
that Sunday morning, whenever they're getting out.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
That's crazy. And this when I was like, because before
the game. You know how the team warns you sometime.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, I just say a game, you need to invite
your your girlfriend or your family members. And I'm like,
what's so tough about Philly? Two quarters in? I knew
then they really take that rocky stuff serious. They are
not playing and it's an feel it on the field
like they are very They're very serious about what they
(10:46):
cheer for, how they do it. And my big thing
with Philadelphia is if they gonna survive off of hate, guys,
what we need to do is make them turn on
their team. And they would turn so quick and they
would make the Eagles feel the burn from their turn.
They would booty them out their building. So that was
always the biggest challenge to me. I want to take
(11:06):
on this city and I want to see can we
make them turn on their team.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
When I was going up there to go visit, and
you know, I hain't already known a lot about Philly.
So I'm riding in the town and I see this
billboard and I'm like, nah, that was a kid on
the billboard. He had to be like two years old,
maybe three, flipping off people. And at the bomber said,
we started me on.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, that's why I do what I was going to
do this.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Four days later, I'm in the little grocery store and
I'm walking down the grocery eye and this little old
lady walking up, coming down the aisle. She say, you're
Brian mitchell Sonny. I say yes, ma'am. She say you
better do fars what you did against us, and went
on and now that's all she said. She just left
fire Like damn file, it's serious.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
They don't play there. It's a religion up there. So
to go up there and against all those odds and
to beat them, you know. Yes, some of my best
memory we seen a play where I made the last
minute play on the load.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Tell them let me take you out through this stuy.
Just imagine we in the fourth quarter. I think it's
uh like it's pretty cold outside. The way we were dressed.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It was fourth quarter. The score is literally three to seven,
I mean to ten. We didn't have them to three
points from fourth quarters. They're driving the ball, Dono. They
have Winzbrook. You know, all the characters you played with.
They throw a last minute play, last play of the game,
at the goal line.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I have the guy on my shoulder. I rip him down,
sling him to the five yard line.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
As I walk off the field and know that the
game is over, it all right, And then you gotta
realize that high parent office. We held them to three
points with Andy Reid, we did and we beat them
twice that year.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So we did everything that we were supposed and this was, Hey,
what what year was that? Emma?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Who showing that play? Showed me that play? What two thousand? Yeah,
we rough house and we treated them just comebacks they are.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I'm about to say.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I'm glad you asked that, because friend, I want to
go back to something you said a little early. You
said Bemis was playing on the field. How many times
did you play against Beamsch?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I played against him every year he was in Philly,
New Years, he was in New York.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So the end of his career is when I started
to play him. Is he chased the great Jerry Rice
of Mississippi. I passed him and he came. He just
kept came, the brave with playf I left. He got
in by two fourteen. I go back for one game.
I think you can still do it.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Now I gotta ask because on commanding.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
The game day Lobe as pregame of every game, we
had somebody come on, I think with Stephen Davis, and
he talked about be Miss and he talked about his
first game with the Miss when he was like a
rookie or something like that. And I think it was
like joint practices. It was like preseason that be Miss strangles.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
A guy with one hand.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
What was it like when you played against him? Because
you're seeing an older be Minch. He was just totally
insane at that time to think about me Minch. He
played with the edge that he wants you to know about. Yes,
I'm gonna do this and it's gonna be for four quarters.
And you might not think it's fair, but all's fair
in love and war, all right. And don't think he
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just got this big head for nothing. He gonna lay
that head on you. He laid it on a couple
of my guys.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
What happened to you? Beat his head? Buddy? Man, I knew,
I knew what the band in hand need.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
So everybody used the weapons that they got, just like
Fletcher always tell us that he run four to three,
but every time he picked up a form me, he get.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Caught from behind sea. I don't know how did it
not transfer? You know what I'm saying. All I'm saying
is this, you better be ready and scrap up your chin.
Scrap when thirty was on the field, and and just
be aware where he's at at all time.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What was the trash talking like between you though? Because beamished,
I know he saw trash for the best one. But Fred,
You've never.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
See Fred talked for everybody, because I remember that I
played against them in it was Fax field the time,
and I come through the hole and look, I'm gonna
kick off return and we had we put our fullback
back there see some Martine to block LeVar.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
He never sees Levarn.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But LeVar committed early and lord his head and I
caught him bow and I could see the white of
his eyes. Fred came on, why you doing it?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I'm gonna be doing this all year.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, So what I gotta talking? Transfer LaVar Leon sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So it's just like it's more of a if the
game flowed, That's how my talking goes of who am
I aiming at?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Like what did you do in the game?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Because I think the fullback took out another one of
my boys took out bluefoot. I took blue foot out
if Bluefook wasn't managin on the field, just there.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And I'm like, not my boy, not my boy. I
get up, knock it out. It's no friend.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
When you're doing trash, I know it. It's a mental Yeah,
you're trying to get in somebody's head.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Did you just give up? After a while? We'll beings
because I feel like nobody's no. No, we just gonna
keep going. Because I tell.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Him, what did I say you?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Fred? I say, listen, I'm not going back with the
team tonight. And I hang in the same club. Y'all
hang it. We can do whatever y'all want to do
after the game. I want them to think that I'm
really gonna follow him. I was here for ten years,
so they probably think, well, he knows some people.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It is.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It is bental warfare when it means necessary. Listen, bro,
I want you. I am trying to listen. I investigate.
I studied backgrounds. I wanted to know who you're special person.
If I'm gonna say whatever on the football field, get
your mind on that instead of what you're supposed to do.
Did you ever say something? Friend? I played for that
one game. I don't think he really talked much after
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that game because he didn't want to go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh damgn yourfraid he was scared The last time was
scared of doctor slapped me on the butt.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I think I was thirty seconds old. Never the land,
I had seen light for the first time. I ain't
know what was going on that land time been scared.
I gotta tell the truth on that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's crazy because we have three generations of players, and
that shows how great B.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Mitch was and how long he was great because you
got to play with him.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Harry was his og when he played with him. When
you hear these conversations about B. Mitch, a young fella
you've seen coming in here, young with a snapper coming
into the locker room, what do you think, man?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I mean, my first thing was like he was a
quarterback transitioning in. Is a quarterback transitioning in to running back?
And I used thought everybody was lying to me about
him being a quarterback because he was so rough the
quarterback does, but he was nobody acts that way. Yeah, yeah,
I completely differently wanted the fight everybody the whole training camp.
(18:02):
You know, he got in a fight off probably the
first at least the first ten days. They got in
a fight with somebody the first ten days, you know.
I mean's just I was like, he does not play quarterback.
I walkt like fifty bucks on the bet because I said,
there's no way I bet at Ricky Sanders, Like, he
just not play quarterback. Slick Quick is like he's a quarterback.
That's like quarterbacks hide, they do not fight. They hide,
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they do not fight. It's like he wants to fight everybody.
He's trying to fight jumpy Who fights jumpy gatherers? Nobody
fights jumpy Gap. I was like, hey, man, I grew
up in the military family. Uh huh, by any means necessary,
find a way. He acted that way the whole time.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
To any hardy in too. I hope y'all don't get
a picture. Please do not pictures like that.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's a football court. I seen it the other day
when be Mitch had that hair. He was smiling. I
meant to take a picture.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I can text it to it. Lost opportunity, Hey real quick,
give it up for b mitch Man.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's the fun part about these preview podcast is getting
to the walks down memory lane. But we also preview
football as well. And fellas on Christmas Day, we do
have the Dallas.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
We gotta word say what you really want to say
on Christmas. We got a word.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
We do.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But you know what, there's worst things to do for
a living.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, I am not gonna complain, and honestly I will
be happy to see us out there on that field.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Now, Gary, I'm gonna put you on the spot real quick.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Do you know who has the most all purpose yards
in history against the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I'm gonna go be Mitch fred Yo.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Guess that's easy. You know, I know all and all
knows me. Yeah, this this be Mitch right there, got
gotta stitch all over. Be Mitch.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
How many yards did you put up against the Dallas Cowboys?
Because these two gentlemen are correct, over three thousand, over
three thousand yards and you still hold that tea. Yeah,
every time I hear your stats are the things you
accomplish your accolades, I'm just like, good Lord that is hay.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Them for a long time also. But the thing is
a lot of times it's like that was the game
where you get up for because you know how.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
The fans are looking at that game.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And I always wanted to try and do something against
them to make sure the fans were understand that I'm
with them. I can remember the last game in RFK
I was able to play running back. Richard Pettebon was
let me play for the honey back of that game,
and I broke through. I scored the last I ran
two touches on over one hundred yards Russ.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
In that game.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
We were down there in Texas Stadium. We ran a fake,
you know, we got today. They were so they thought
they were smart. So we acted as if we were
gonna call the fake, and then I backed out of it,
and then they still snapped the ball. We still ran
a fake on him. You know, went on and won
the football game. It was always something against them. I
can remember, you know, going to Philly and were going
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down there and playing against Dallas and it was like
one hundred and twenty five thirty thirty degrees on the
field and any Reid walks over and say, get the
get the offense ready. I'm like, coach, we're kicking off.
And he looked at me and said, oh okay. He said,
if I go talk to him, everybody would know, because
you have somebody on Teamy will say it so I
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run over Andy, y'all get ready and all the dudes
are looking at me like, man, you see all the sudding.
I'm like, no, get ready and we'red the on side
kick and they never recovered. So beating Dallas never has
left my system. You know, for fourteen years with three
different teams, I hated Dallas and it can always be
like that. Well, you know what.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
They also gave themself the fouse moniker of America's team.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
But we are America's team in America's capital.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
When you when you see us, you see the Capitol,
you see the White House, That's that's what America looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
We look like America, not like a star. See.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I'm gonna tell you what they sell it. They ain't
runway modeled with their dead tooth in the mount. It
ain't quality, right, it ain't quality what they selling.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But they got a.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Salesman down there that can sell water to a wheel
and that's what's going on right there.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But we are America's team. This is where the Monica
should be. Hell, I love that man with you don't
know what too. It's too late, the fellas.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We will be there at the game doing commands in
the Game Day Live right before kickoff when we take
on the Dallas Cowboys. B. Since you are technically the
cowboy killer, we call tand of the Cowboy Killer, but
the stats say that you're the cowboy killer.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I'm gonna start with you. Because the US's.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Offense almost every statistical they've been going crazy. A lot
of that has to do with Dak Prescott skinny deck,
like Fred likes to call him. How do we make
Dak Prescott uncomfortable because he has not been sacked a
lot this season.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I think it's a it's a combination of things.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Your offense have to run the ball effectively and keep
them on the sideline for a long time, and then
make them become one dimensional. And once they're one dimensional,
you find out they're not as good of a football team.
Javonte Williams has been banged up a little bit, but
the thing about them is if they can run the
ball effectively, I don't think you have a chance in
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hill to stop and they play. You know, if they're
running the ball. They have two wide receivers that are
basically killers. Okay, they can go out there and get
it done. So if you can have those long sustained drives,
run the ball on them, make them have to come out.
I don't care what level the offensive coordinator is in.
If a team goes on a anywhere from eight to
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a twelve thirteen play drive and score a touchdown, they are.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Going to forget about the run on the next drive.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, all of these these new age.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Offense squads, all they want to do is store the
football score.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
We need to. If you you go back to Joe
Gibbs back in the day, they can go down fifteen
players and score a touchdown. He's gonna run the football,
run the footba running football, running game play. These new
age dudes automatically assume they got a match urgency. So
it's gonna come down to a great game called by
Cliff And in some of that running gonna have to
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be effective.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
We've seen the guys starting to do it.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Then when you get on offense, you're gonna have to
take some chances and you're gonna have to get home
because what I've noticed their offensive line is not as
good as it used to be. You can get home
on them, but don't don't miss that. If you miss him,
he's gonna make you throw it up. And if it's
around pickings, he's sketching.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, and man pickings seed Lamb to one thousand yard receivers,
I don't remember the last time the Cowboys had two
one thousand yard receivers.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
We had three in one year.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Then we get we did that, and.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Why actually, possibly, what would happen if me, Dale Green
and Champ Bayley had to walk down on them?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Guys? That's where I was going with it. I was
going with it on Dallas, but Gary all the time,
like here from could Fred Darryl Green and who's the
other Champ stop the posse? And you think that could happen?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I mean, I guess it's always a possibility. But you know,
Santa Claus really exists too.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm about to say that is a brother, that brother
that's not worried about you. Oh Fred, you.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Y'all would have got him busy third grade. But you
gotta cover three, You gotta cover three. Yeah, it's hard,
I mean, because that means they have to be perfect
every play, and we don't, like we don't have to
be One receiver has to be perfect out of the three.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Great point and then the running game with that, so
and who's gonna tackle them when they come in there,
which is the second day. Fred under the ground, though, boy,
some hits say I got that jersey dirty. Y'all didn't
give me credit for it because I was slim, so y'all,
you would dive into the ground. Though. Do you know
how many guys I'm responsible? Fuck?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
When it comes to the Hospital of Maine, you know
how many guys I'm responsible.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Fuck. Listen, when I make my mind up to shoot
my shot, I usually hit. That's all I'm saying. So
free real quick, because I'm assuming Daryl Green's on art. No,
they ain't a good mess.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Y'all gonna have to check get Ricky because Ricky man.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
That's fair. Okay, yeah, Fred, who you got?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I think I did better with taller receivers, so you
get me, bro, I know what I like to play
basketball with the tall guys.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And then champion Dick and Garyll go ahead, Garry. They
ain't had a chance on.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Well, I mean they got a chance because I I
tended to tell the defensive back where playoffs going around,
what pattern I was gonna do, so they have a chance.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Giving no we at the mercy of my b live.
So I need to have Charles Man and next to
many team. I got good guys from my time. Yeah,
who you got them from your time ain't gonna work.
I got the all time man and.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
He didn't touch anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
We haven't get them lame. That's our forty sex. Then
he stopped played Ark Carrigate, No right when I left.
I play with Brian and Redo. In the Super Bowl,
Bruce Smith didn't see a touch a quarterback. Remember that
offensive line that we had back when you'll played the
b They gave up nine sacks in a whole season.
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I'm talking about regular season, playoffs and Super Bowl included.
At the time, you're.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Talking about one of the best officer of last all time.
So yeah, I'm gonna need.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
The cheery me, some beef fish, some rushing. I don't
need to make sure.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I got the right guys out there. The question is,
and my picking London Fletcher is my middle life.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Who else would you go with? Though that's the best
right there, I know some other.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Guys to get the job done, Just like I played
with Keith Mitchell, I played with damn John.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You know I gotta pick.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I gotta pick.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
London, and I'm gonna pick John Taylor is my safety?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
All right?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, probably the run.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Okay, man, y'all lost. Well, you know what that fay
The game were going and you Ricky down the field.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Lebron's gonna gonna bite on the on the run and
he's gonna get beat. And then he's gonna wanna fight
the rest of the game and he won't make no tackle,
gonna lose. He'll come down here that Louise Ana. He'll
come down game down hill. But the ball was pulled
out of the gun of the running back and threw over.
But then while we got Sean Taytan to swoop in
do what he do. Say, we got some guys that
can match up. Now, if you want to play chess,
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I can play it with you. Now, I don't think
you want that free Madness family.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We have these conversations all day long. We do more
of these conversations in our actual shows. We do this
all the time. So I want to give you a.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Glimpse of that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But Fred, let's go back to the Cowboys, because when
you look at two guys and pickings of CD Lamb
that are just having a season as a secondary, as
a defensive back, what can you possibly.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Do to slow these guys. Now, the one thing you
do when you study your team. If they got a
group of guys, they still situational guys. They got situations
where these quarterbacks like to go to this guy, like
to go to Garret. In these situations, if Garrett to
move the chain guy, you know, Gary gonna get the
ball early and off.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
You know, if it's the guy.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Rend's own guy, it's gonna usually be the taller, the
biggest that they with the big catch radius.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
If it's gonna be to take the top off the
guy that's gonna be the.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Fastest guy in the group, they're gonna try to at
least give him three times to beat you deep. So
you gotta say situational cd Lan the move to chain guy.
He gonna work inside the slot. He gonna be your catching,
your yet guy. And George Picking is your big play guy.
Just throw it up and see what happens. So you
as a cornerback and me as a defense, I need
to be cognizance and situations red zone.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm thinking pickings like fifty yard line teams usually take
their shot.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
So I'm gonna be situational in my play calling, and
I need to get them behind the chains. Cannot make
it second and third and long. Now I can dictate
to you, you don't dictate to me, right, And we
talked about that. You gotta get him off his spot.
If he stayed on his spot and he comfortable. I
always say, if a quarterback looking at the dB and
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I I'm burnt like that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Means he cleaned.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
He upright, and he is under no disgress. If you
don't put him under discress, he will not make mistakes.
He will not make self imposed mistake. And I played
for Shatnenheima's father, Marty drafted me here. So Brian was
here when I got here. He's been a leech. He
understands it. And I tell you this him and that
on this off they got synergy. They understand it through
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and through, and it goes through the run game as
much as those big pass plays. It goes through the
run game. And Ferguson is another guy tight end that
you gotta worried about.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
So they got a group that can beat you.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
So you got to beat there with team defense and
turn that ball over? Can you turn the ball over?
He gonna give you a chance. You gotta catch week Yeah,
and be.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
We talk so much about complimentary football.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
When I look at a team like Dallas, this is
more important than anything to play complimented football because as
good as they are on offense, they struggle a lot
defensively and be this week, we need our offense to
stay on that field and make plays because this Dallas
offense can put a forty points easy.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
And the thing about it is when you look at
the fact that Jayden won't be playing and Marcus more
than likely won't be playing, I think people assume that
you can't throw the football. Yeah, Terry can still get
open yep debog and still do the things he does.
But the most important is gonna be what are those
that three headed monster in the backfield's gonna do? Listen,
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Man offensive linemen Tonsel has been out of US some
games this year, and Coleman played. Coleman has been good,
very good tackle position. Yeah, Chris Paul has been outstanding.
Walley is coming in. Whyley can play any position on
the damn all, while is Roley McKenzie play anywhere? So
if those guys, like I said, every week, it's what
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the big guys up front does. If they go out
there and establish a run and then you make Dallas say, well,
we got to score. They stop running the football. Now
you have a better chance to combat what they're doing offensively.
But if they can do, if they have a two
way offense, it's gonna be tough. You make them become
one dementional and you got a damn good chance of
beating them. Make the game, make the.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Game dirty, make it oh, make it fieldthy like unwatchable
to people like, you're right with that. You gotta weaponize
the backfield. If you weaponize officerve linmans love going forward.
They don't like going back with the whole game. Truth,
they don't like pass blocking the whole game. So and
you some of Dallas team speed against them on defense
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screens draws like sometimes you gotta beat the team Hoilzano
before you can be a Burthen And that's what Cliff
gotta do.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
If you think you gotta you gotta run the fat
once you.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Get them fat boys to move like a good defense,
the fat boys run and the skinny dudes tackle.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's a mark of a good defense. The most type
of fact guys can't run all day, make him run. Yeah,
and see, I think Dallas has a defense similar to
what Chicago had back in the early two thousands. They
had Brian Yeah, who was a former safety who would
run you down. Their linebackers in their safeties play like that,
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but when you ran directly at him, he couldn't do
too much physics. If Andy Reid wanted to run directly
as somebody, they didn't want to run the football anyone
to throw the ball when you run directly at them.
I think that that's their weakest points. We can't play
into their hands by trying to do the toss and
get around the edge and all that. They're too fast.
They chase downhill. Keith Murray, he's made a lot of
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bad decision filling hose. Keith Murray.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I'm targeting him. I'm letting him know who dollar bill is,
early and off. I'm gonna have Chris Roden Regus all
in his chest with that right dad like time after
time after time until he buy down. I gotta suckle
a couple of guys and say this is who we attacking,
and this who this is how I'm an attacking.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
He need to know who be out of she is
all game long in his face. The same fight that.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
They use against the Philadelphia Eagles I want to see
that same fight to.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
The end and be fresh at it perfectly early and
often when it courts that run gave on game day life,
you're talking about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Run the ball, but also stick with running the ball.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
This was like one of those games where you almost
gonna have a choice but to give guys like Bill
multiple carries to try to get things done and control
this one.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think that when you run the ball effect in
the first half, like decide that you're gonna stop doing
it in the second half. What I believe in is
I'm gonna find out what's really ticket inside your chest.
You know, I was an offensive player all my life,
but I've never thought passively. I've always thought aggressively. If
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like people ask me what was my concept in kick
return and public turn, I said, I played chicken with people.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
I'm run full speed at you. Let's see who's gonna
move first.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
If I don't move consistently and I keep getting them
coming back smiling that you you will get out my way.
If you keep coming downhill. Like all these pass rushers
in the league, make them take on one of those
big guys, those big guys on a road grade. They
don't want to be passing, and I think that's what
we got to Sometimes you gotta get into that mindset.
I don't understand that people are like, well, you gotta
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be even on offense. So you know, if I can
run it fifty times and you can't stop me, watter
hell why I have to throw the ball?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I people hate the Patriots from back.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
In the day. I love the papers.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Oh yes, I watched the Patriots run the ball fifty
something times one week. Don't care that they got it.
Next week they threw it about fifty something time. And
Bill Bellichike out to the game and said, why did
you do that? He said, because the team last week
couldn't stop the run and they weren't stopping it, so
why should we? And then the team miss, we couldn't
stop the pass, so we threw the ball on them.
You do what the hell they can't do? You don't
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sit up there and go, well, we've ran it now
twenty times. They got to get equal. Why if they
can't stop the run, you keep running it. They can't
stop the pass, you keep throwing it. And we've seen
success there, we've seen ce Rod really coming to this.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We've seen Bill, a seventh round pick, really coming to
his own so really excited to see what our squad
can do. Now, Fred, you knew to this. So a
lot of times we play a little games or something.
At the end last week we gave up a game
ball to all the players because we saw Dan Quinn
give that ball to Jalen Lane. It was just such
a big moment. So, just like on Command Center, we're
gonna do a nice list. Who on the Commanders makes
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your nicest I'm I'm a line. But since you the newbie, Fred, yeah,
I'm gonna start with you. Uh, It'll be Mikey Sandri.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Still while he's making my nice liss, I think he's
sublimately telling people I'm an outside corner, all right. When
I get on the outside, I don't seem to get
burned a lot. When I get on the outside, I
tackle well. When I get on the outside, I go
steal balls from quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Let me be what I am.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Don't try to force a round peg into a square
hole on this with like he is showing you through play.
He ain't saying it, but he's showing you through play.
I'm more comfortable playing on the outside of the defense.
Give me a chance to be a start out here,
because this is where I'm nice That's where he made
his breading buddy last year.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
This is where I'm nice at. I can't say one person.
I'm gonna have to go with a three eddit monster. Okay,
treshway Lane, Oh, congratulations. The reason I'm saying all three
of these guys have some representations for the team in
the Pro Bowl. We got Trusts going for his third
year in the Oh, he's the starter.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
We have Blows a third alternate, and we have Jayleen
name was the second altdate. So when you see that
on the special team, we were doing the thing for
the only Navy game, and Urban Mayer said what he
does when he first finds out he's playing against the team,
He wants to see how good their special teams is.
And when your special team is good, he know that
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that's a well coached team. We got three guys on
three different levels. A guy who goes out here hunting,
a guy who punts, the guy who returned. All three
of them are representing. So it's and don't last. If
Christian McCaffrey would have finished the year to the Pro
Bowl again, you all have to be right close anyway,
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and we.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Know that well.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
And honestly, that's probably because Rebo spent so much more
time on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
He kind of took away from all people hate on
their guy who's great, like Revo. I agree, they don't
vote with you on other teams when you're great. It
happened to me a lot too, and we talked those
who are good and to talk trash. They don't vote
for you, revoteing all artistils team. What about you, Gary Well.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I mean I'm pretty consistent. I mean, I would really
like to see Terry get the ball more now that
he's back and playing. I think the more he gets
involved in the offense, the better the offense. Does you know,
this year, even though he hadn't had as many catches
as he had in the past, he's averated more per
catch than he had in the past, because I mean,
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when he's healthy, he's a beast. I mean, he's one
of the best receivers in the league when he's full
time healthy, and when he's not completely healthy, he's still
better than the other twenty five percent. So I mean,
Terry's a beast. I'd like to see him get the
ball more often because if he does, they got a
better chance of winning the football game.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Quite honest, feelers, y'all didn't leave me much, so for
me in my nice list, I'm gonna put our producer
on a nice list. She don't want me to say
a name, so I'm gonna say a name, but give
love to our producer and put this game previous.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Who you talking about, Carolin, our producer, Caroline. Listen to me,
if my daddy told me, when you do great things
that people want to give you praise for you accept it. Yeah,
for sure, get it while you're living, because you know what,
when you're giving them older, nobody ever says that. You'd
be wondering why the hell nobody say nothing about me? Yo,
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thank you, and to give Carolina flowers. She is our youngest.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Why
do y'all get to call her Caroline? She makes me
call her boss lady.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I think you chose to do that, Gary, She is
the boss lady. She put this together. Think this is
one of her first full.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Shows that she has owned and produced and makes these
rundown for us and have a lot of fun and
as somebody.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That was a young producer. It is not easy to do.
Oftentimes it's thankless. She spends her nights here with us,
but she could be with her family, she could be
hanging out with his crew. Easy to deal with us.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
She does it when Grace and poison, So shout out
to her. She makes our nice list and everybody that's
been involved, our.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Entire producer crew. It works so so hard.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
It's almost a full woman's staff, and they do so
much for us. So I want to give them their flower.
Shout out to Jason, the only man at.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
That table were at the Grandest Knights. And then, of
course gotta give love to Ryan Yoakam as well, who
coordinates all these things.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
We would not be in a fly place like dz
prom if it wasn't for him.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
So Merry Christmas to all of them, because they will
be spending their Christmas days away from their families, away
from their loved ones.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
They will be with us putting on shows for y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
So I want to make sure I gave that love
real quick before we end the final Game Day previews
show from out here decent.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Prob fellas, I'm kind of sad twenty Day you're gonna
say it, we won't be Gary.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I'll say next year too. Bok Stead, he knows it
have to be a fifty two week program.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
There we go all year right, you know. Shout out
to everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Again, Shout out to our producer Caroline and nothing but
love in this bilding right here and again. Shout out
to d C. Proble, my brother Glenn over there, man,
we wish you strong health, my brother building and this
is family right here. Shout out to all the fans
in the building that come up through. Y'all come every
single night when we do this. Shout out to y'all
me so much to us.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I love getting love, so I had to give love
to end this show. Give it up for Gary Clark
one time.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
We'll have to give you some n keep it going
for Brian Mitchell, future Hall of Famer. It's smooth Claws friends,
smooth oh brother Stata.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
We get the people love and give y'allself.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
This has been the Day.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Preview podcast, the first of hopefully many a preview podcast,
and we all just day.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Let's drink good, let's eat good, baby, let's be out.
Shout out to y'all.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Twos next top Box play
The band.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This family will come into the game day preview podcast
from out here in Ashpord, Virginia at the c Rian.
I'm here with some amazing gentlemen who we're also here
with some amazing commanders fans.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Let's give it up for them real quick, because we've been.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Doing this all season, law every home game, and this
is the last one, fellas.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's not just the last one, it's the last one
of the year. It's Christmas time.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We got a lot of things going, and we got
some great guys here, Gary Clark, Brian Mitchell, and of
course Smoother Clause pulled an us Fred Smooth from out
here at DC PROP.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
First, these first fellas, Merry Christmas. We're all fathers here,
just hit a little different for us. We get nothing.
We ain't got no gift we get.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's why I brought gifts for y'all, because we don't
get living it fathers with socks and discussing gifts.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So we had to give each other great gifts.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Now, Fred, I will say, you surprised me a little
bit with your gift when you came in with two bags.
I said, at least one of these is gonna be
a joke and very insulting.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Either of them were It wasn't insult.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You didn't to London, he didn't find a way insult.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I know what I'm saying is Ryan thought the same thing,
Jan thought the same thing.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Why why don't you'all trust me? When I say I
got you trust?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
All? That sounds like this is a youth thing? What
she most people that thought that of you? I can
see if I gave you a gift card, now I
can see why.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
But you told that's what you used to do, give
gift cards, knowing why I didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I didn't take that approach. But I love to give
gift cards because if it's the thought that counts. Don't
worry about how much money on the gift car.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, if you don't, you're trying to get something for
one hundred and fifty and you got nothing on it.
I put ten dollars on their car.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
About now, Fred, I'm gonna start with you, because like
you said, dads don't get really no gifts.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah we don't.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Saying it was thinking about dad's which he never does.
What would you ask Santa.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
For this shit? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Sam, don't close my eyes. I want ten ten my way.
I take a Lamborghini with a Ferrari.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Work to man modest.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Know what I'm saying is, if you're gonna ask for something,
you might have wear ex hide because you're gonna probably
get right there in the middle.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So I want a thirty point victory on Thursday. That's
what I want to come, thirty point number thirty.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
You know that kind of way?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Cupping it man him so much? No, no, no, no, no,
it's my number Gary. What about you? Man? What you
ask center for?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I want to be fresh, smooth when I grow up?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh, stripping Freddy.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Because he's having some nice skifts that he's getty for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Listen, you got a ring? I ain't got.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I ain't getting no ring in football. I couldn't even
keep the wedding ring. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I think that through Fred it was my fault. I
was too young when I did it. But Fred, I
don't know saying it can help with that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But you know what, if I was the assent of anything,
it'd be more days here at DC Prime with y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Fellas. Man, this has been such a great season. This
previewing these games. I wish fellas, let's get right into it,
because this is kind of crazy to think about. This
blew my mind. We're playing in our first Christmas Day
game ever.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
This is kind of wild to think about what DC's
team and we have never played the Chrismas game be
even so I'm gonna go to you for this one.
Because of all the things we've done historically, it's kind
of wild to still be part of history when we
play Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's kind of funny that no game ever fell on
Sunday that was on the Christmas you know, at home
or something like that. It's kind of weird, but you know,
it's great, and I think it was all based off
of what happened last year. What they expected. This year,
you know, didn't work out the way they expected it,
but you know what, we'll get a chance again. But
I just think that you have an opportunity. And listen,
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there's two games on Thursday two. Make sure somebody say, hell,
that team didn't have a good year, but they came
out to play today. This is a game about pride.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, I understand people saying that this rivalry has changed,
but when I rolled into this spot in nineteen ninety,
nobody had to say a word when food when Cowboys
we came, you can cut it in the air or
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so thick. Coaches didn't have to say one word. Players
didn't have to say anything. But everywhere you went, fans
let you know what it was about. And now it
comes up and it's like we're playing a preseason game.
It's not a lot, but you know those players got
to have something in them like the thing. For me,
it connected me with the fans. The hate that the
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fans had, I had, and I tried to take it
to a different level. So that game, Bro, you look
at the Dexter Manley, Darryl Grant when he when Brian
Middleson started dancing in the end zone. You know, I
could go back and look at some games man, where
we had they were the worst and they beat us.
We were the worst, and we beat them up.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
For this game.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't care what the records are. This is your rival,
hated rival. You got to go out there and play
like you like it means something. And the NFL just
really start to take over Christmas.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
The NBA usually had Christmas and we usually have Thanksgiving,
and we always played on Thanksgiving. So that's why they
never really put us on Christmas game because we already
had a national Holiday game.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And it's kind of wild. The NBA is actually losing
games while we're gaining games. So be Mis said, O
odd is going to be on us, and this is
a big game. And Gary, we talked all the time
about motivation for these games. Yes, we know we're not
going to the playoffs. Neither is Dallas.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
This is the NFC East. There's nothing quite likely, like
b Mis said, And I know back when you played,
it was the same type of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I know you wanted to beat Dallas always. I mean
the NFC East period. Back when we played, it was
the division either San Francisco's Gowin or some team from
the NFA East winning super like every year for like
about seven to ten years in a row. It's gonna
be San Francisco or a team from NFA NFC East.
But I mean, this is something that has to build upon.
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Like you want to go out on a winning streak.
You want to win this game. You want to go
ahead and finish out and pick you know, you want
to beat the Eagles. You want to go out on
the winning streak so you can build going into next year.
There's nothing worse than starting the season if you lose
out and I don't think they will. I think I
think the team's going to find a way to find pride.
They have to. And also you'll find the players that
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you expect to play next year. When you're down in
the dumps, you'll find the guys who really go to
dig down or come out and play. And if I'm
a guy now who've never had a chance to play,
and I get my chance to play now in these
two games, I'm going to straight up ball because if
I ball now, I get a shot next year to
play good whether the whole season. So it's good. It's
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been a tough year. You know. I'm trying my best
to say nice, nice things. Yeah, it's just been a
tough year. It's been a tough year for the team.
But you know, as long as you finish off strong,
you have something to build upon for the next year.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, Gary, let's let's talk about the past a little bit.
Then we don't gonna put you in no position to
not speak positively. So when you look at these nfcast
battles Man.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Center, our flagship show.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I don't know if you're watching it, if you haven't watched,
checkon it all the commands you Tube page it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
For Thursday, the Man Center, we had this segment where.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We asked all the guys what their favorite NFC East
opponent was when they were playing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What was your favorite NFC East team to play and why?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Well, I love playing against Dallas because Dallas was just
a big deal. But the team that I hated the
most was the Giants. Hated the Giants. Giants kicked her
butt like three years in a row. They swept us
like three years in a row.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So I hated the Giants. So a lot of my
best games, I don't see it was against the Giants,
but we lost. I don't even count them. We lost
those games. I don't even count him as my best game.
Lost count.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That will be the same question for you, because you're
very interesting because you've played for two NFC East teams.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Oh, he's played for three? He sold? Is sold? Play
for three?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You played for the team that that won't you show
you that you? Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
The best team that I loved playing against it was
the Eagles because when I went when I was going
to the Eagles for ten years with Washington, those fans
were like Spike Lee. I called them Spike Lees of
the NFL. They made you play. And then I went
there and those same fans loved me and hated everybody
like you know, they were on my side. And then
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the third my fourteenth year I'm in New York, I
wanted to play against them again because I hated the
general manager, Joe Banner, you know, so they always they
got me. And I say, fans look at the cowboy
Indian thing, and that's why they say Dallas. But I
think those Eagles and Giants games might have been as tough,
all worse than when we played against Dallas. The Eagles
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games were physical as hell. The Giants, man, you go back,
you think about you know, Carson and Tailor and Banks.
They had some serious people on that defensive side of football,
you know, but it was always Dallas because I think
that goes in to history and all that type of stuff.
But you're out looking at that whole the whole division,
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no matter who you playing, like the Cakewalk was going
to when we go to Phoenix. You know, I don't
know how the hell they end up in the NFC,
but you know, and I guess I'm showing my age.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
They started off in Saint Louis. That's okay, but Sant
Lewis is not the East Idels, so that's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But I loved going to play against them as well
because I always felt that their field felt more like
that fast track faster because and I had great games
against the Corners, but the Eagles was the one I
love shutting the crowd up and Fred.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
For those that didn't get to watch it, because it
hasn't come out yet, can you share who you It's
very similar to Gary.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Who you preferred to player who you enjoyed playing the most? Oh,
it was the Eagles them bleach your creatures. Listen.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
The first time I ever played there be Mitch was
an Eagle flying high. It was a brawl in the Stateum,
it was a Monday night game. They had to stop
it just when it was at the link and the
link had a jail house at the bottom of your
because I heard that room.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, it was a right of pass.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, it was a rite of passage for the fans
to spend the night and leave that next Monday morning,
that Sunday morning, whenever they're getting out.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
That's crazy. And this when I was like, because before
the game. You know how the team warns you sometime.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, I just say a game, you need to invite
your your girlfriend or your family members. And I'm like,
what's so tough about Philly? Two quarters in? I knew
then they really take that rocky stuff serious. They are
not playing and it's an feel it on the field
like they are very They're very serious about what they
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cheer for, how they do it. And my big thing
with Philadelphia is if they gonna survive off of hate, guys,
what we need to do is make them turn on
their team. And they would turn so quick and they
would make the Eagles feel the burn from their turn.
They would booty them out their building. So that was
always the biggest challenge to me. I want to take
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on this city and I want to see can we
make them turn on their team.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
When I was going up there to go visit, and
you know, I hain't already known a lot about Philly.
So I'm riding in the town and I see this
billboard and I'm like, nah, that was a kid on
the billboard. He had to be like two years old,
maybe three, flipping off people. And at the bomber said,
we started me on.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, that's why I do what I was going to
do this.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Four days later, I'm in the little grocery store and
I'm walking down the grocery eye and this little old
lady walking up, coming down the aisle. She say, you're
Brian mitchell Sonny. I say yes, ma'am. She say you
better do fars what you did against us, and went
on and now that's all she said. She just left
fire Like damn file, it's serious.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
They don't play there. It's a religion up there. So
to go up there and against all those odds and
to beat them, you know. Yes, some of my best
memory we seen a play where I made the last
minute play on the load.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Tell them let me take you out through this stuy.
Just imagine we in the fourth quarter. I think it's
uh like it's pretty cold outside. The way we were dressed.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It was fourth quarter. The score is literally three to seven,
I mean to ten. We didn't have them to three
points from fourth quarters. They're driving the ball, Dono. They
have Winzbrook. You know, all the characters you played with.
They throw a last minute play, last play of the game,
at the goal line.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I have the guy on my shoulder. I rip him down,
sling him to the five yard line.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
As I walk off the field and know that the
game is over, it all right, And then you gotta
realize that high parent office. We held them to three
points with Andy Reid, we did and we beat them
twice that year.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So we did everything that we were supposed and this was, Hey,
what what year was that? Emma?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Who showing that play? Showed me that play? What two thousand? Yeah,
we rough house and we treated them just comebacks they are.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I'm about to say.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I'm glad you asked that, because friend, I want to
go back to something you said a little early. You
said Bemis was playing on the field. How many times
did you play against Beamsch?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I played against him every year he was in Philly,
New Years, he was in New York.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So the end of his career is when I started
to play him. Is he chased the great Jerry Rice
of Mississippi. I passed him and he came. He just
kept came, the brave with playf I left. He got
in by two fourteen. I go back for one game.
I think you can still do it.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Now I gotta ask because on commanding.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
The game day Lobe as pregame of every game, we
had somebody come on, I think with Stephen Davis, and
he talked about be Miss and he talked about his
first game with the Miss when he was like a
rookie or something like that. And I think it was
like joint practices. It was like preseason that be Miss strangles.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
A guy with one hand.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
What was it like when you played against him? Because
you're seeing an older be Minch. He was just totally
insane at that time to think about me Minch. He
played with the edge that he wants you to know about. Yes,
I'm gonna do this and it's gonna be for four quarters.
And you might not think it's fair, but all's fair
in love and war, all right. And don't think he
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just got this big head for nothing. He gonna lay
that head on you. He laid it on a couple
of my guys.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
What happened to you? Beat his head? Buddy? Man, I knew,
I knew what the band in hand need.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
So everybody used the weapons that they got, just like
Fletcher always tell us that he run four to three,
but every time he picked up a form me, he get.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Caught from behind sea. I don't know how did it
not transfer? You know what I'm saying. All I'm saying
is this, you better be ready and scrap up your chin.
Scrap when thirty was on the field, and and just
be aware where he's at at all time.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What was the trash talking like between you though? Because beamished,
I know he saw trash for the best one. But Fred,
You've never.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
See Fred talked for everybody, because I remember that I
played against them in it was Fax field the time,
and I come through the hole and look, I'm gonna
kick off return and we had we put our fullback
back there see some Martine to block LeVar.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
He never sees Levarn.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But LeVar committed early and lord his head and I
caught him bow and I could see the white of
his eyes. Fred came on, why you doing it?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I'm gonna be doing this all year.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, So what I gotta talking? Transfer LaVar Leon sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So it's just like it's more of a if the
game flowed, That's how my talking goes of who am
I aiming at?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Like what did you do in the game?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Because I think the fullback took out another one of
my boys took out bluefoot. I took blue foot out
if Bluefook wasn't managin on the field, just there.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And I'm like, not my boy, not my boy. I
get up, knock it out. It's no friend.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
When you're doing trash, I know it. It's a mental Yeah,
you're trying to get in somebody's head.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Did you just give up? After a while? We'll beings
because I feel like nobody's no. No, we just gonna
keep going. Because I tell.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Him, what did I say you?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Fred? I say, listen, I'm not going back with the
team tonight. And I hang in the same club. Y'all
hang it. We can do whatever y'all want to do
after the game. I want them to think that I'm
really gonna follow him. I was here for ten years,
so they probably think, well, he knows some people.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It is.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It is bental warfare when it means necessary. Listen, bro,
I want you. I am trying to listen. I investigate.
I studied backgrounds. I wanted to know who you're special person.
If I'm gonna say whatever on the football field, get
your mind on that instead of what you're supposed to do.
Did you ever say something? Friend? I played for that
one game. I don't think he really talked much after
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that game because he didn't want to go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh damgn yourfraid he was scared The last time was
scared of doctor slapped me on the butt.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I think I was thirty seconds old. Never the land,
I had seen light for the first time. I ain't
know what was going on that land time been scared.
I gotta tell the truth on that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's crazy because we have three generations of players, and
that shows how great B.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Mitch was and how long he was great because you
got to play with him.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Harry was his og when he played with him. When
you hear these conversations about B. Mitch, a young fella
you've seen coming in here, young with a snapper coming
into the locker room, what do you think, man?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I mean, my first thing was like he was a
quarterback transitioning in. Is a quarterback transitioning in to running back?
And I used thought everybody was lying to me about
him being a quarterback because he was so rough the
quarterback does, but he was nobody acts that way. Yeah, yeah,
I completely differently wanted the fight everybody the whole training camp.
(18:02):
You know, he got in a fight off probably the
first at least the first ten days. They got in
a fight with somebody the first ten days, you know.
I mean's just I was like, he does not play quarterback.
I walkt like fifty bucks on the bet because I said,
there's no way I bet at Ricky Sanders, Like, he
just not play quarterback. Slick Quick is like he's a quarterback.
That's like quarterbacks hide, they do not fight. They hide,
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they do not fight. It's like he wants to fight everybody.
He's trying to fight jumpy Who fights jumpy gatherers? Nobody
fights jumpy Gap. I was like, hey, man, I grew
up in the military family. Uh huh, by any means necessary,
find a way. He acted that way the whole time.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
To any hardy in too. I hope y'all don't get
a picture. Please do not pictures like that.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's a football court. I seen it the other day
when be Mitch had that hair. He was smiling. I
meant to take a picture.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I can text it to it. Lost opportunity, Hey real quick,
give it up for b mitch Man.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's the fun part about these preview podcast is getting
to the walks down memory lane. But we also preview
football as well. And fellas on Christmas Day, we do
have the Dallas.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
We gotta word say what you really want to say
on Christmas. We got a word.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
We do.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But you know what, there's worst things to do for
a living.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, I am not gonna complain, and honestly I will
be happy to see us out there on that field.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Now, Gary, I'm gonna put you on the spot real quick.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Do you know who has the most all purpose yards
in history against the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I'm gonna go be Mitch fred Yo.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Guess that's easy. You know, I know all and all
knows me. Yeah, this this be Mitch right there, got
gotta stitch all over. Be Mitch.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
How many yards did you put up against the Dallas Cowboys?
Because these two gentlemen are correct, over three thousand, over
three thousand yards and you still hold that tea. Yeah,
every time I hear your stats are the things you
accomplish your accolades, I'm just like, good Lord that is hay.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Them for a long time also. But the thing is
a lot of times it's like that was the game
where you get up for because you know how.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
The fans are looking at that game.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And I always wanted to try and do something against
them to make sure the fans were understand that I'm
with them. I can remember the last game in RFK
I was able to play running back. Richard Pettebon was
let me play for the honey back of that game,
and I broke through. I scored the last I ran
two touches on over one hundred yards Russ.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
In that game.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
We were down there in Texas Stadium. We ran a fake,
you know, we got today. They were so they thought
they were smart. So we acted as if we were
gonna call the fake, and then I backed out of it,
and then they still snapped the ball. We still ran
a fake on him. You know, went on and won
the football game. It was always something against them. I
can remember, you know, going to Philly and were going
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down there and playing against Dallas and it was like
one hundred and twenty five thirty thirty degrees on the
field and any Reid walks over and say, get the
get the offense ready. I'm like, coach, we're kicking off.
And he looked at me and said, oh okay. He said,
if I go talk to him, everybody would know, because
you have somebody on Teamy will say it so I
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run over Andy, y'all get ready and all the dudes
are looking at me like, man, you see all the sudding.
I'm like, no, get ready and we'red the on side
kick and they never recovered. So beating Dallas never has
left my system. You know, for fourteen years with three
different teams, I hated Dallas and it can always be
like that. Well, you know what.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
They also gave themself the fouse moniker of America's team.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
But we are America's team in America's capital.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
When you when you see us, you see the Capitol,
you see the White House, That's that's what America looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
We look like America, not like a star. See.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I'm gonna tell you what they sell it. They ain't
runway modeled with their dead tooth in the mount. It
ain't quality, right, it ain't quality what they selling.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But they got a.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Salesman down there that can sell water to a wheel
and that's what's going on right there.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But we are America's team. This is where the Monica
should be. Hell, I love that man with you don't
know what too. It's too late, the fellas.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We will be there at the game doing commands in
the Game Day Live right before kickoff when we take
on the Dallas Cowboys. B. Since you are technically the
cowboy killer, we call tand of the Cowboy Killer, but
the stats say that you're the cowboy killer.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I'm gonna start with you. Because the US's.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Offense almost every statistical they've been going crazy. A lot
of that has to do with Dak Prescott skinny deck,
like Fred likes to call him. How do we make
Dak Prescott uncomfortable because he has not been sacked a
lot this season.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I think it's a it's a combination of things.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Your offense have to run the ball effectively and keep
them on the sideline for a long time, and then
make them become one dimensional. And once they're one dimensional,
you find out they're not as good of a football team.
Javonte Williams has been banged up a little bit, but
the thing about them is if they can run the
ball effectively, I don't think you have a chance in
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hill to stop and they play. You know, if they're
running the ball. They have two wide receivers that are
basically killers. Okay, they can go out there and get
it done. So if you can have those long sustained drives,
run the ball on them, make them have to come out.
I don't care what level the offensive coordinator is in.
If a team goes on a anywhere from eight to
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a twelve thirteen play drive and score a touchdown, they are.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Going to forget about the run on the next drive.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, all of these these new age.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Offense squads, all they want to do is store the
football score.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
We need to. If you you go back to Joe
Gibbs back in the day, they can go down fifteen
players and score a touchdown. He's gonna run the football,
run the footba running football, running game play. These new
age dudes automatically assume they got a match urgency. So
it's gonna come down to a great game called by
Cliff And in some of that running gonna have to
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be effective.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
We've seen the guys starting to do it.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Then when you get on offense, you're gonna have to
take some chances and you're gonna have to get home
because what I've noticed their offensive line is not as
good as it used to be. You can get home
on them, but don't don't miss that. If you miss him,
he's gonna make you throw it up. And if it's
around pickings, he's sketching.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, and man pickings seed Lamb to one thousand yard receivers,
I don't remember the last time the Cowboys had two
one thousand yard receivers.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
We had three in one year.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Then we get we did that, and.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Why actually, possibly, what would happen if me, Dale Green
and Champ Bayley had to walk down on them?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Guys? That's where I was going with it. I was
going with it on Dallas, but Gary all the time,
like here from could Fred Darryl Green and who's the
other Champ stop the posse? And you think that could happen?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I mean, I guess it's always a possibility. But you know,
Santa Claus really exists too.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm about to say that is a brother, that brother
that's not worried about you. Oh Fred, you.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Y'all would have got him busy third grade. But you
gotta cover three, You gotta cover three. Yeah, it's hard,
I mean, because that means they have to be perfect
every play, and we don't, like we don't have to
be One receiver has to be perfect out of the three.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Great point and then the running game with that, so
and who's gonna tackle them when they come in there,
which is the second day. Fred under the ground, though, boy,
some hits say I got that jersey dirty. Y'all didn't
give me credit for it because I was slim, so y'all,
you would dive into the ground. Though. Do you know
how many guys I'm responsible? Fuck?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
When it comes to the Hospital of Maine, you know
how many guys I'm responsible.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Fuck. Listen, when I make my mind up to shoot
my shot, I usually hit. That's all I'm saying. So
free real quick, because I'm assuming Daryl Green's on art. No,
they ain't a good mess.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Y'all gonna have to check get Ricky because Ricky man.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
That's fair. Okay, yeah, Fred, who you got?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I think I did better with taller receivers, so you
get me, bro, I know what I like to play
basketball with the tall guys.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And then champion Dick and Garyll go ahead, Garry. They
ain't had a chance on.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Well, I mean they got a chance because I I
tended to tell the defensive back where playoffs going around,
what pattern I was gonna do, so they have a chance.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Giving no we at the mercy of my b live.
So I need to have Charles Man and next to
many team. I got good guys from my time. Yeah,
who you got them from your time ain't gonna work.
I got the all time man and.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
He didn't touch anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
We haven't get them lame. That's our forty sex. Then
he stopped played Ark Carrigate, No right when I left.
I play with Brian and Redo. In the Super Bowl,
Bruce Smith didn't see a touch a quarterback. Remember that
offensive line that we had back when you'll played the
b They gave up nine sacks in a whole season.
(27:46):
I'm talking about regular season, playoffs and Super Bowl included.
At the time, you're.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Talking about one of the best officer of last all time.
So yeah, I'm gonna need.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
The cheery me, some beef fish, some rushing. I don't
need to make sure.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I got the right guys out there. The question is,
and my picking London Fletcher is my middle life.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Who else would you go with? Though that's the best
right there, I know some other.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Guys to get the job done, Just like I played
with Keith Mitchell, I played with damn John.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You know I gotta pick.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I gotta pick.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
London, and I'm gonna pick John Taylor is my safety?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
All right?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, probably the run.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Okay, man, y'all lost. Well, you know what that fay
The game were going and you Ricky down the field.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Lebron's gonna gonna bite on the on the run and
he's gonna get beat. And then he's gonna wanna fight
the rest of the game and he won't make no tackle,
gonna lose. He'll come down here that Louise Ana. He'll
come down game down hill. But the ball was pulled
out of the gun of the running back and threw over.
But then while we got Sean Taytan to swoop in
do what he do. Say, we got some guys that
can match up. Now, if you want to play chess,
(29:04):
I can play it with you. Now, I don't think
you want that free Madness family.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We have these conversations all day long. We do more
of these conversations in our actual shows. We do this
all the time. So I want to give you a.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Glimpse of that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But Fred, let's go back to the Cowboys, because when
you look at two guys and pickings of CD Lamb
that are just having a season as a secondary, as
a defensive back, what can you possibly.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Do to slow these guys. Now, the one thing you
do when you study your team. If they got a
group of guys, they still situational guys. They got situations
where these quarterbacks like to go to this guy, like
to go to Garret. In these situations, if Garrett to
move the chain guy, you know, Gary gonna get the
ball early and off.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
You know, if it's the guy.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Rend's own guy, it's gonna usually be the taller, the
biggest that they with the big catch radius.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
If it's gonna be to take the top off the
guy that's gonna be the.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Fastest guy in the group, they're gonna try to at
least give him three times to beat you deep. So
you gotta say situational cd Lan the move to chain guy.
He gonna work inside the slot. He gonna be your catching,
your yet guy. And George Picking is your big play guy.
Just throw it up and see what happens. So you
as a cornerback and me as a defense, I need
to be cognizance and situations red zone.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm thinking pickings like fifty yard line teams usually take
their shot.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
So I'm gonna be situational in my play calling, and
I need to get them behind the chains. Cannot make
it second and third and long. Now I can dictate
to you, you don't dictate to me, right, And we
talked about that. You gotta get him off his spot.
If he stayed on his spot and he comfortable. I
always say, if a quarterback looking at the dB and
(30:38):
I I'm burnt like that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Means he cleaned.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
He upright, and he is under no disgress. If you
don't put him under discress, he will not make mistakes.
He will not make self imposed mistake. And I played
for Shatnenheima's father, Marty drafted me here. So Brian was
here when I got here. He's been a leech. He
understands it. And I tell you this him and that
on this off they got synergy. They understand it through
(31:02):
and through, and it goes through the run game as
much as those big pass plays. It goes through the
run game. And Ferguson is another guy tight end that
you gotta worried about.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
So they got a group that can beat you.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
So you got to beat there with team defense and
turn that ball over? Can you turn the ball over?
He gonna give you a chance. You gotta catch week Yeah,
and be.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
We talk so much about complimentary football.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
When I look at a team like Dallas, this is
more important than anything to play complimented football because as
good as they are on offense, they struggle a lot
defensively and be this week, we need our offense to
stay on that field and make plays because this Dallas
offense can put a forty points easy.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
And the thing about it is when you look at
the fact that Jayden won't be playing and Marcus more
than likely won't be playing, I think people assume that
you can't throw the football. Yeah, Terry can still get
open yep debog and still do the things he does.
But the most important is gonna be what are those
that three headed monster in the backfield's gonna do? Listen,
(32:00):
Man offensive linemen Tonsel has been out of US some
games this year, and Coleman played. Coleman has been good,
very good tackle position. Yeah, Chris Paul has been outstanding.
Walley is coming in. Whyley can play any position on
the damn all, while is Roley McKenzie play anywhere? So
if those guys, like I said, every week, it's what
(32:23):
the big guys up front does. If they go out
there and establish a run and then you make Dallas say, well,
we got to score. They stop running the football. Now
you have a better chance to combat what they're doing offensively.
But if they can do, if they have a two
way offense, it's gonna be tough. You make them become
one dementional and you got a damn good chance of
beating them. Make the game, make the.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Game dirty, make it oh, make it fieldthy like unwatchable
to people like, you're right with that. You gotta weaponize
the backfield. If you weaponize officerve linmans love going forward.
They don't like going back with the whole game. Truth,
they don't like pass blocking the whole game. So and
you some of Dallas team speed against them on defense
(33:05):
screens draws like sometimes you gotta beat the team Hoilzano
before you can be a Burthen And that's what Cliff
gotta do.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
If you think you gotta you gotta run the fat
once you.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Get them fat boys to move like a good defense,
the fat boys run and the skinny dudes tackle.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's a mark of a good defense. The most type
of fact guys can't run all day, make him run. Yeah,
and see, I think Dallas has a defense similar to
what Chicago had back in the early two thousands. They
had Brian Yeah, who was a former safety who would
run you down. Their linebackers in their safeties play like that,
(33:43):
but when you ran directly at him, he couldn't do
too much physics. If Andy Reid wanted to run directly
as somebody, they didn't want to run the football anyone
to throw the ball when you run directly at them.
I think that that's their weakest points. We can't play
into their hands by trying to do the toss and
get around the edge and all that. They're too fast.
They chase downhill. Keith Murray, he's made a lot of
(34:09):
bad decision filling hose. Keith Murray.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I'm targeting him. I'm letting him know who dollar bill is,
early and off. I'm gonna have Chris Roden Regus all
in his chest with that right dad like time after
time after time until he buy down. I gotta suckle
a couple of guys and say this is who we attacking,
and this who this is how I'm an attacking.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
He need to know who be out of she is
all game long in his face. The same fight that.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
They use against the Philadelphia Eagles I want to see
that same fight to.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
The end and be fresh at it perfectly early and
often when it courts that run gave on game day life,
you're talking about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Run the ball, but also stick with running the ball.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
This was like one of those games where you almost
gonna have a choice but to give guys like Bill
multiple carries to try to get things done and control
this one.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think that when you run the ball effect in
the first half, like decide that you're gonna stop doing
it in the second half. What I believe in is
I'm gonna find out what's really ticket inside your chest.
You know, I was an offensive player all my life,
but I've never thought passively. I've always thought aggressively. If
(35:19):
like people ask me what was my concept in kick
return and public turn, I said, I played chicken with people.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
I'm run full speed at you. Let's see who's gonna
move first.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
If I don't move consistently and I keep getting them
coming back smiling that you you will get out my way.
If you keep coming downhill. Like all these pass rushers
in the league, make them take on one of those
big guys, those big guys on a road grade. They
don't want to be passing, and I think that's what
we got to Sometimes you gotta get into that mindset.
I don't understand that people are like, well, you gotta
(35:51):
be even on offense. So you know, if I can
run it fifty times and you can't stop me, watter
hell why I have to throw the ball?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I people hate the Patriots from back.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
In the day. I love the papers.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Oh yes, I watched the Patriots run the ball fifty
something times one week. Don't care that they got it.
Next week they threw it about fifty something time. And
Bill Bellichike out to the game and said, why did
you do that? He said, because the team last week
couldn't stop the run and they weren't stopping it, so
why should we? And then the team miss, we couldn't
stop the pass, so we threw the ball on them.
You do what the hell they can't do? You don't
(36:25):
sit up there and go, well, we've ran it now
twenty times. They got to get equal. Why if they
can't stop the run, you keep running it. They can't
stop the pass, you keep throwing it. And we've seen
success there, we've seen ce Rod really coming to this.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We've seen Bill, a seventh round pick, really coming to
his own so really excited to see what our squad
can do. Now, Fred, you knew to this. So a
lot of times we play a little games or something.
At the end last week we gave up a game
ball to all the players because we saw Dan Quinn
give that ball to Jalen Lane. It was just such
a big moment. So, just like on Command Center, we're
gonna do a nice list. Who on the Commanders makes
(36:59):
your nicest I'm I'm a line. But since you the newbie, Fred, yeah,
I'm gonna start with you. Uh, It'll be Mikey Sandri.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Still while he's making my nice liss, I think he's
sublimately telling people I'm an outside corner, all right. When
I get on the outside, I don't seem to get
burned a lot. When I get on the outside, I
tackle well. When I get on the outside, I go
steal balls from quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Let me be what I am.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Don't try to force a round peg into a square
hole on this with like he is showing you through play.
He ain't saying it, but he's showing you through play.
I'm more comfortable playing on the outside of the defense.
Give me a chance to be a start out here,
because this is where I'm nice That's where he made
his breading buddy last year.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
This is where I'm nice at. I can't say one person.
I'm gonna have to go with a three eddit monster. Okay,
treshway Lane, Oh, congratulations. The reason I'm saying all three
of these guys have some representations for the team in
the Pro Bowl. We got Trusts going for his third
year in the Oh, he's the starter.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
We have Blows a third alternate, and we have Jayleen
name was the second altdate. So when you see that
on the special team, we were doing the thing for
the only Navy game, and Urban Mayer said what he
does when he first finds out he's playing against the team,
He wants to see how good their special teams is.
And when your special team is good, he know that
(38:21):
that's a well coached team. We got three guys on
three different levels. A guy who goes out here hunting,
a guy who punts, the guy who returned. All three
of them are representing. So it's and don't last. If
Christian McCaffrey would have finished the year to the Pro
Bowl again, you all have to be right close anyway,
(38:42):
and we.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Know that well.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
And honestly, that's probably because Rebo spent so much more
time on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
He kind of took away from all people hate on
their guy who's great, like Revo. I agree, they don't
vote with you on other teams when you're great. It
happened to me a lot too, and we talked those
who are good and to talk trash. They don't vote
for you, revoteing all artistils team. What about you, Gary Well.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I mean I'm pretty consistent. I mean, I would really
like to see Terry get the ball more now that
he's back and playing. I think the more he gets
involved in the offense, the better the offense. Does you know,
this year, even though he hadn't had as many catches
as he had in the past, he's averated more per
catch than he had in the past, because I mean,
(39:29):
when he's healthy, he's a beast. I mean, he's one
of the best receivers in the league when he's full
time healthy, and when he's not completely healthy, he's still
better than the other twenty five percent. So I mean,
Terry's a beast. I'd like to see him get the
ball more often because if he does, they got a
better chance of winning the football game.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Quite honest, feelers, y'all didn't leave me much, so for
me in my nice list, I'm gonna put our producer
on a nice list. She don't want me to say
a name, so I'm gonna say a name, but give
love to our producer and put this game previous.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Who you talking about, Carolin, our producer, Caroline. Listen to me,
if my daddy told me, when you do great things
that people want to give you praise for you accept it. Yeah,
for sure, get it while you're living, because you know what,
when you're giving them older, nobody ever says that. You'd
be wondering why the hell nobody say nothing about me? Yo,
(40:20):
thank you, and to give Carolina flowers. She is our youngest.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Why
do y'all get to call her Caroline? She makes me
call her boss lady.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I think you chose to do that, Gary, She is
the boss lady. She put this together. Think this is
one of her first full.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Shows that she has owned and produced and makes these
rundown for us and have a lot of fun and
as somebody.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That was a young producer. It is not easy to do.
Oftentimes it's thankless. She spends her nights here with us,
but she could be with her family, she could be
hanging out with his crew. Easy to deal with us.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
She does it when Grace and poison, So shout out
to her. She makes our nice list and everybody that's
been involved, our.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Entire producer crew. It works so so hard.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
It's almost a full woman's staff, and they do so
much for us. So I want to give them their flower.
Shout out to Jason, the only man at.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
That table were at the Grandest Knights. And then, of
course gotta give love to Ryan Yoakam as well, who
coordinates all these things.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
We would not be in a fly place like dz
prom if it wasn't for him.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
So Merry Christmas to all of them, because they will
be spending their Christmas days away from their families, away
from their loved ones.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
They will be with us putting on shows for y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
So I want to make sure I gave that love
real quick before we end the final Game Day previews
show from out here decent.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Prob fellas, I'm kind of sad twenty Day you're gonna
say it, we won't be Gary.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I'll say next year too. Bok Stead, he knows it
have to be a fifty two week program.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
There we go all year right, you know. Shout out
to everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Again, Shout out to our producer Caroline and nothing but
love in this bilding right here and again. Shout out
to d C. Proble, my brother Glenn over there, man,
we wish you strong health, my brother building and this
is family right here. Shout out to all the fans
in the building that come up through. Y'all come every
single night when we do this. Shout out to y'all
me so much to us.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I love getting love, so I had to give love
to end this show. Give it up for Gary Clark
one time.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
We'll have to give you some n keep it going
for Brian Mitchell, future Hall of Famer. It's smooth Claws friends,
smooth oh brother Stata.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
We get the people love and give y'allself.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
This has been the Day.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Preview podcast, the first of hopefully many a preview podcast,
and we all just day.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Let's drink good, let's eat good, baby, let's be out.
Shout out to y'all.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
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