September 3, 2025 • 52 mins
Football is in the air. The guys discuss if this can be the year that the Washington Commanders reach the submit. They breakdown what are the key milestones they can reach to ensure a historical season led by QB Jayden Daniels. Next, they give an in-depth preview for the season opener against Russell Wilson and the New York Giants. Finally, it's the first 'Hail Yeah or Hail Naw' of the 2025 NFL Season! Get Your Commanders Tickets Here: https://bit.ly/3SpwKU3 Hosts: Logan Paulsen, Santana Moss, Fred Smoot Producer: Jason Johnson The views and opinions expressed by our analysts and/or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today's up.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
So the Command Center Podcast, it's football season. Football is
in the air. Yeah, so we talked about what it's
going to take to reach the summit, the ultimate game.
But it all starts with week one. We got that
Giants preview for you and then we got hell yeah,
hell no.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And which chef is going to do the cooking? You think?
Is it Chef Daniels or Chef Russell Shay Dans.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It all starts right now. What the Commands Center Podcast.
I'm Logan Paul Singer with Fretzmoot and Tantana Moss and
we are in the Big Bear AI Command Center studio.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Nice, nice to get that spots right there.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But I like how you grind through it right there,
Like how you grind through it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I like how you talk yourself through it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And football is in the air. Man, Oh it's here.
We were just talking about that.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
The weather got cool kind of right when that first
high school game started, kind of laying the table for
the NFL season.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It feels like football, like this is one thing about it.
Like you said, Monday, it was like one hundred degree.
Wednesday it with like sixty five degree that night, like
totally change what.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The football guys aligned with the weather guy. Once they
football go up in there, ye yeah, it cools down.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Especially up here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I mean you always get that kind of weather or
that kind of feel once the season rolls around. I'm like, man,
I'm not ready to put on coats, so I put
on put on hoodies, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But it's here, man.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah. I think the other thing that COEs with like
kind of football being here is getting a lot of
fan questions, a lot of you know, my dad asked
me everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's like the start of the scene.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And the thing that they keep saying is like, is
this our year?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Are we going to be able to get to the
Super Bowl? We're gonna have the same success we had
last year. And I think it's a really legitimate question
because I know everyone's got their you know, their their
their rose colored glasses on right now, But is this
really we really have a shot this year to back?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I think we do. I think I think every year
we all are optimistic. Every team in this lead says
to themselves like, we have a shot to get to
the Big Dance. But I think also you have to
be realistic within yourself. What did you do to build
on things that you did last year well or build
on things that you didn't do at all last year.
And I think when you look at our team, you know,
(02:12):
just from a player standpoint, you saw some moves where
you can say, Okay, we potentially got better in those
spots in total position room. Yeah, total position rooms. So
I think to me, that's the first step you have
to take. You have to fulfill a need or avoid
that's there. And I think we did that. Now it's
about putting that together, putting the excess and those with
those players. So because you you can also say there's
(02:35):
certain certain guys that might not be here that when
it came to exits and o's and that and and
that particular player, they fitted perfectly, you know what I mean.
So now do we have do we have that replacement
or do we have the guys that we didn't have
last year? And it's all about them going out there
and showing us.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You know, I think we got better with personnel. I
think we got better, Uh got realized a year old
in his offensive year old in his defense, So we
got intellect I think we got better as a whole
as a group.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think we flipped rooms.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
We flipped the cornerback room to the t We flipped
it so much that no egg Monogamy, who played a
big role last year as the fifth cornerback in that
room right now. We flipped the office line room. It's
a totally different room right now. So I think we
got better. And like they said, nobody's won back to
back division in this division in twenty one years, all right,
(03:27):
So do we got some going with us with Maybe
Philadelphia does have a little Super Bowl hangover. Maybe they're
just not as healthy as they weren't last year because
it's hard to go thirty consecutive games with me and
healthty like that. So you know, I think it's different
variables that that's pointing in the direction of it might
be our year.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, And I think just to kind of give some context,
and Jason did a great job researching this is you know,
back to the last time this team had back to
back playoff seasons was nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one, which,
if I'm not mistaken, is like considered the best team
all time. It's in contention maybe one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Hope but they already voted. It's the basis of the team.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And so obviously, like I don't know, it just shows
you how special that is to be able to get
back to those moments. And one of the things that
Tanna said that I think is great is they've you know,
I think back to twenty twelve, Tanna and we kind
of said, oh, hey, we did really well last year.
Let's just bring the band back. When we signed all
our free agents, we just came back with the same team.
And what I love about what Adam did is he said, no, no,
(04:30):
he understood that we were an imperfect team last year.
So the additions of Laramie Tunsll, drafting Josh connorlly, moving
Brandon Coleman to guard right, Deebo Samuel right, all of
a sudden, you're kind of like, oh, you know, like
the some of the areas of weakness on this team
last year now are better. I guess the question is like,
is it enough? And I think that's an unfair question
for you guys, because we don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I can't say we don't know, like we're better once
you got a quarterback, Let's just let's start there. That's
the that's the great equalizer to every team. That's when
some stink in the room. That's the perfume right there
that makes everything smells good. Now you give him, you
got tearry back. You add a debo to it, like
Luke McCaffrey in his second year. You added Jane Lane Uh,
(05:16):
like you had a Bill McCaffrey. You add a better
office line is in the totality. So that's a better
offense to me. And you're talking about Cliff Kingsbury not
having the hole back this year, not having to keep
guys in, not having to keep guys in the block,
having a Jane Daniel, this processing stuff faster, putting a
bigger load on his plate when it comes to play
(05:37):
call it. So, I just think we're in a better
window right now then we were last year, because last
year it had a lot of ifs. Everything was would
it be said? What did you said to say? Like
last year was a little bit like lucky. I know,
I know it's athletes. We don't like that word, but
there was a little bit of luck involvement. Now it
feels like to have luck like the ball, Come on,
what's the difference between the ball bouncing our way and luck.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's what I'm saying, You gotta you gotta like people
think people get mad about that, right in general. People
get mad like, oh, you gotta work at it, you
gotta grind. But we've played enough ball you know that sometimes.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Hey, Like I think also too, you have you have
to understand that with everyone in this league, in any sport,
you know, there's got to be luck to some of
the things that happens.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
You can go out there and play extremely well and
then the ball don't bounce your way. We've been there
a lot, but I think one of the things that
stand out more so to me from watching what those
guys they was prepared for those opportunities.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
It's one thing by saying, oh, we got it, we
just got this ball bag, or we got something in
our favor, but not being able to finish it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You know what I mean. How many times.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
You've seen the team or you've been a part of
a game with a team and you got a favorable call,
you got a favorable you know, turnover, and you wasn't
able to capitalize. This team was able to capitalize on
those opportunities. So do you call it luck or do
you call it being prepared for the for the moment?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, he think about it. Turnovers. Let's just talk turnovers. Defense.
They got luck with all of them, like Jeff, because.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Those statistics, it's extremely valatile.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Voluntier like Jeff, because we led the team, I mean
led the league and turnovers last year. That that guarantees
us nothing this year. Like you can't carry that over,
Like you can't carry it. Like maybe we were just
in the right spot at the right time, had the
right Russians. Like it's this combing nation of what happens
that day in like Tannis say.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What do you do afterwards?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Like anybody can get a turnover, but can you turn
into a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Are you turned into three? Three? Ain't good enough? You
need to turn into city.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
But I look at it like this too, because I
look at things from the totality. I say to myself,
what did this defense do a year ago? They wasn't here,
they were elsewhere? How did that turn out?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
How was those those situations, those turnovers? The uh you know, uh,
I guess you could say getting the offense back in
a conservative not conservative, but you know, winning that winning
the winning the field position play. Like I look out,
I watched how how it was in Dallas, and I say,
last year we wasn't quite what they were, but we
(08:11):
were there. You see what I'm saying. So I don't
look at that as being luck. I say they showed
us this the last three years. Two years in Dallas,
they had somebody that either led in interceptions or or
or all picks with interceptions. So that's not luck, that's
your defense put you in a position. Now as a player,
you can go out there and be you know, play
(08:32):
at a higher level because the defense allow you to
do that. So I look at that, and then I say,
what did we do by getting more guys in here
that can you know, excel when the defense.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Give those those opportunities.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I think we hit on that because we went out
there and got corners, we went out there and got safeties,
We went out there and got guys on the defense.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
That's when we put us in position. Don't put us
in position for those guys to excel.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's a great point. And it's kind of like this
weird thing. It's like luck, but it's also a confidence. Right,
So when you got a great coach. They're able to
kind of make you believe in the system, in the philosophy,
and you're able to kind of like, so you made
the comparison of Dallas, Like, when I watched Dallas, I
was like, they don't believe in what's happening.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You can kind of feel it when you're on the sideline,
you can feel it when you're watching the game. And
I kind of saying to myself, then that's one of
the reasons the coach gets fired. They don't renew his contract.
And I look at here and talk about guys who
just believe in Dan, They believe in the process, and
I think that's the first step right to doing something
really special. We mentioned the team ninety ninety one, right,
You mentioned that in twenty one years they've had a
(09:32):
different division winner. Last back to back NFC East champs
was the nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one team, right, And
again talk about kind of that perfect mixture of its talent.
It's a little bit of luck, it's great coach, it's
making plays right, it's great coaching, all those things that
kind of have to come together. And so I think
when you look around the division and you said, you know,
(09:53):
there's not been a back to back division winner a while.
How long is that? That's like thirty years almost, but
the no more than that they have been say forty years.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So but what I'd say is like, is there another
team in the division that you're like, oh, man, this
is the team we got to watch out for.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
We know?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What is a Super Bowl winning Philadelphia Eagles? Like, I'm
sorry they are They are stacked one.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Harvard Roseman is a wizard when it comes to being
a GM and a draft guy.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
He is man like he gonna feel in gaps.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yes, they lost people like all Super Bowl champions do
to free agency, and they lost sweat. They lost a
lot of guys when it comes to the trench warfare.
But they had guys already drafted like Nolan Smith, waiting
developing to who they are supposed to be. Then they
come out, then they draft Jaha Campbell's so they just.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
One guy after another. But is it going to be
a Super Bowl hangover?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And they talking about luck like luck can be a
positive thing, but you can also have bad luck. And
they were really really healthy last year. Yes, so they
take a bad injury, No, a Brown, what's his name Brown,
the receiver, Yeah, Brown, His hamstring kind of lingers throughout
the season, not as effective sake one gets nicked one week,
they're yeah, because they're not as deep as they've been
(11:08):
in the past. So all of a sudden you're like, oh, man,
like this team that's built with offensive studs, yeah, isn't
quite as good. So obviously they're They're kind of the
marquee of the division. Is there anybody else from the
Giants and the Cowboys that you say could make a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Before jer before Jaro did some Jerry stuff, dude, I
mean the most Jerry lonelyo.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Jerry Joe lonely Jerry Joe.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Like before the n I was like, you know what
these Cowboys when I looked at it, because you know,
they drafted a couple of dudes that I was very
high on, right uh, And I was like they might
Now that I'm looking at this roster with the run,
Blaine coming back, digs coming back.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Reveal, like, I'm like, they gotta be Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I was like, oh my god, Like I started to
really put this team together, not like on paper they
look pretty good, but in Jailer.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
What's his name, Jason do you remember his name? They
got from Boston College. It's not a book. A book
is a receiver.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
No, no, no, you're talking about uh it's Ricky.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, that's a rocker, Donovan as a rocker. There we go,
good job, Frederick got there. But yeah, but you bring
it in and you say, oh, man, that's gonna be
a nice you know, three man pass rush with Michael
Harson like.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That, and then all of a sudden, Jairo, I'm lost
for words.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I'm like, I don't know how bad he got over
there for you, just because now not even that you
know what this one thing and we were just talking
about this this weekend. It's one thing when you lose
a guy and when you hear the team start talking
about him, and you know it just it don't add up.
You're like, come on, bro, you cannot possibly see him.
Expect me to believe that Michael Parsons was a bat
(12:48):
in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
He wasn't.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Like I saw this guy on the sideline for the
whole summer of training camp, having a whole meeting with
the defense, Like everybody who wasn't. That's that day they
were sitting there, you know, partaking the little I don't
know what they was talking about, but they had discussion
after discussion.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
So if this guy's not like trust me, you will
see a difference.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
You would see guys away from that guy and not
even being like, I don't care how much or how
little they like them. The plays that he made, you don't.
You don't find that from from from two guys that
loan one guy.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I'm gonna tell you why I like it.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
The great equalizer to the Jedi five is when you
pass rush him.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Power ain't good enough. You have to pass rush him
with speeds.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Me, the best speed pass rush in the league is
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The best guy creating quick wins too.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
He's the speed guy. Uh Myles Garrett, Power meet speed. Alright,
So if you take the great equalizer for this guy
out of the division, all right, and to me, it
changes everything. Now what I'm doing, Carter gonna turn into
we don't know yet. We don't know yet. He gonna
have every advantage.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
To turn it into that. But the only guy to
me that could slow him to slow JD five.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Down, Like if you look at it, every time we
played Dallas last year, Michael Parsons gave him trouble.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I remember prepping for those games last year. Yeah, you know, obviously,
Miles Garrett, I think it is maybe the best ed drusher.
But in terms of impact down to down, yeah, it's
hard for me to find somebody more impactful than Michael Parson.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
And all I can tell you is I remember doing
the pregame show in Dallas, and you know how we do.
We wrap it up and we got a head to
the you know, to the sweet or wherever we're gonna
watch the game, and on my way to the suite,
he had three sacks in the first series.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Dude, But that's that's telling.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
That's his name, and I'm like, I gotta hear him
and get to this name.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
What is going on?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
And it's just like so when I hear him and
Jerry had a beef.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Look, I was saying the whole time, I hope they
dragged this thing out to mid season because I just
expected him to be on the team regardless.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I had no clue that Jerry Wild let him get
up out of there, you know what I mean, just
off through especially after that whole little you know, a
show came out about Jerry and how he love his guys.
I'm like, Jerry ain't getting rid of this this this
guy like Michael Irving for this team.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, yeah, I knew Michael because he's still call him
Michael Michael.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
So when I saw that pop up and Adam shild
whoever it was, saying that he's gonna be I said, bro,
I just see some fake news and some popped up
on and this guy has got traded to Green Bay and.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You could have got so much more. It feels that way.
I mean, someone said this to me.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It's like, if you want to talk about Tree Henderson,
he's thirty years old and uh t J Watt is
over thirty years old. Miles Garrett's over thirty years old,
Michael Parson's twenty six years in the prime of his career. Yes,
it's like Reggie White, like.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
That type of player became available.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And you were just like cool, Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I see Kenny Clark not a guy guy, he ain't
man now he's stop it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
But he's thirty one years old. I could say thirty one,
do not rush the ass.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And just because I gave you Michael pottersons these first
round picks that I'm getting back probably gonna be thirty
twenty nine like these ain't like these top five picks,
all right.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But basically glorified seconds.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You couldn't tell me. They couldn't say, you know what,
give me with Sea Gary, give me.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Probably could have give me.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Sean Gary, two first round picks, give me, give me,
give me Walker get back.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Guess what, I'm whatever they got, that's their problem.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So anyway, we digressed. But it was kind of a
crazy thing to see, and we haven't talked about it before,
so obviously Dallas feels like they're in the midst of chaos,
ripping apart a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You got a rookie head coach. You got an overpaid quarterback.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right you know, form MVP, just to give him.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's my guy. I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Give MVT caliber player.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You got explosive number two wide receiver. Actually you can
explode both ways mentally physically.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
All I'm saying is it's dressing up to be one
of those ships that Dallis love. Just full of drama,
no wins. This drama after drama after the safe to.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Say, it's easy for us to sit here because they
got to play the game. So that's why I don't
I don't get too caught up into saying what the
team is going to look like once they you know,
get between the white lines. But I love the fact
that one of those guys that was a throwing and
eye you know what, won't be around.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So if the other.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Ones show up and it's still got to play anybody,
you know, but we gotta play them.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I mean, we don't see them twice. Now, we don't
see them twice, and that's a that's a shame. That's
a shame.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Right then, Obviously we're gona do a Giants privy here
in a second. But I think the Giants, because the
quarterback situation, don't feel like they could make a real push.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
But you know what, I feel like they got I
feel like they playing. I feel like it's an energy
in New York right now.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, I will say when you walk come up and
look at the idea and we'll talk about this. More
like they've gotten a lot better in the secondary. They've
got a lot better.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
On some there, some there.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
If if they had anybody, if they had if they
even had like Daniel Jones a quarterback, I'd be like
they maybe have a shot like that. That's really how
much better. I think they've gotten offensively.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
No, No, I think they got some guys.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I think they got they got what they got some
building blocks there they got. They got no more receiver legit,
they got deepensive line. Legit, they can run the ball, legit.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
They got guys.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
They got wide receiver one, they got the bid receiver too.
They got some dudes.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
All I know is too when you think about how
they played us last year. We beat them off of
field goals at the home game, and then we end
up going to New York and played a little better
and we still squeaked out and won that big They're
gonna come in here with confidence, you know, the Giants always,
like I said, they play us tough. I look at
what we have now. It's different from everything that we
had in the past.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So I don't look.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I don't go off of what happened in those years
of us playing, but the way they played in the preseason,
we need to match that intensity ace.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Speed they had.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Some can't come into this game saying that, Okay, we
got to get our stuff because they gonna jump off.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
They're gonna be ready.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Because of how I watched them with prost preseason, Like
when I saw them out there on the field flying around,
had starters in here and there, every quarterback and play. Now,
I'm not expecting much from the young guy, but you
putting any one of those veteran quarterbacks, they could spin it.
So you have to match the intensity out the door
and they gonna come with it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, So it definitely feels like there's an opportunity and
a window for us to do it. But just to
give some context, like that was our super Bowl, super Bowl.
This is our year.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
The last time it was our year was nineteen eighty
one when they won the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Again, the best team ever assemble ever. Not only this
franchise is his history, but maybe.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
They had a star on each side of the ball,
from special teams to outfense, defense, almost in every room.
They had a Hall of Fame like it was. It
was a different type squad.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, so I think it's it's definitely possible, but you know,
it's got to be kind of that perfect storm, that
cyclone of kind of things coming together and making it happen.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Could it be our year, absolutely, and Week one is
going to be the first opportunity for us to see that.
So let's start talking about the giants. And to me,
the thing that gets me all tingly gets really excited
is this heavyweight fight. Right so in the.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Blue corner, yep trench warfare.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, we got Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Caveon Thibodeau, and
Abdul Carter. I mean, that's that's a group right there.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Hey, listen, when is the worst player in the names
you just got?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
This is his top five pick?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Man? No, No, that would have like they.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Got four top five picks like this rushing the passer.
One got a paint, Brian Burns, you got Dixtion lawn
says Stable. He said it's the best nose going in football.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, I mean, second best defensive tackle in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So then you go to Doua Carter, the fleshy dre
u Pick and very Michael Parson is yeah. So yeah,
they got some dudes man like. But this is what
I do love when it comes to the edge guys.
The Thibadeau's, the Duel Carters, the Brian Barnes. It's only
one way to be the pass rush that's running the
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ball let is Keyston.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So we're gonna talk about the Burgundy corner. Yeah, and
we got Larry Tunsel, Brandon Coleman, Tyler be Ottish, Josh
Connelly and then Andrew Wilder Reverends a playing guard nick
already Yeah, and that group like when you kind of
lay them out like that, Yeah, like, man, that's they
can play. That's kind of a lot better man.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I like to also what we saw from those guys,
and not all of them, because all of them wasn't
you know, on the team with JJ J CJ wasn't
with those guys or Tunsu. But the way our offense
aligned worked together last year gave me I have the
confidence of knowing that whether we added to those guys
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or not, they was gonna come in as one, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That's what you need on the office of line. You know,
for so many years.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
We had the Chris Samue or the Trent Williams, they
had that one guy. Yeah, now we have a couple
of those guys in the center, to both of the tackles,
to even the gods. All these guys have a name
or have something by them that we like. But the
way their coach their coach as one, and when you
get the guys to play as one also being in
unisones with the quarterback because he also drives off of
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how well they blocked one last year. I'm okay, I
care who you put out there in front those guys,
cause they gonna come and play together.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You're right, this is gonna be a brawl.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
But guess what if you can if you can pass
this test, do you think you're gonna see a d
L equivalent to this?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I was just thinking about it. There might be better
run stopping groups.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
But in terms of pastors, nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And again like watching some of the preseason tape, like
Brian Burds, like when they put him on stunts, Skalon
thibodauways on stunts, like their ability to like eat gaps,
cut like cut like cut down running lanes and penetrate
like it's it's it's a it's a tough challenge. It's
a tough challenge. And Dexter Lawrence Man like what was
it like the first nine games last year? There has
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not been a more dominant player that I have watched.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But I can say is if anybody handled him, it
was tied to be hotish.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
That was yeah, put him in the cooler money.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Listened to me be honih.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I, Dixie, you will not be doing your deeds today,
all right. So if anybody I can say, keep him
in Chick.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It was beyond its Yeah, so I think, yeah, that
group is like watching them on third down in the
preseason the Giants.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
It was a track.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It was hot, it was hot, it was it was explosive,
it was it was it had a smoothness about it.
And it's just disrupted. This is what I saw. I
saw him disrupted everything.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So let's talk about it, like, how do you how
do you mitigate that group? And to me, Tred already
alluded to it. You got to run the ball. You
have just be a fishing on first down. So like,
that's running the ball, that's quick game, that's our po
that's being selected about your shots.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's Cliff calling a good game. The screens drop.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
The best way to stop a great pass rush is
to make them run sideway, to make them run what
we call empty gaps. Empty gap is, oh you didn't
y'all run, y'all stuck. But guess what, we're backing up
because we're throwing running back screen. Now you got to
retract yourself and run back. I come back the next
way and run right at you again. Here go to
think about it is I have to wear you down.
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It's only you have to earn the right to rush the.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Pass you have to You have to also too, you
know when it comes to some of the things that
you do schematically. You know when you start putting those
motions in and getting them to not be in those
sets that they want to sit in. When you start
getting those zips and zapps and cracking those guys, now
they not just running up field freely thinking they can
just get out there like you have to basically scheme
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up something to make sure that those ends are always
peaking to see what relation wise do I gotta do.
I got an extra blocker coming in down there on me.
You can't get them that have them comfortable. You got
free around when you got them thinking, you got them looking.
That's that one second that they needed to really get
up the field and be special.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So that's a great point, tenn because again the reason
first down so hard to rush the passers because we
can run the ball, we can go quick game, we
can go screen everything in the menus on the table.
I got to think the longer down in distance is
that's where they can be more aggressive and be more
tha ten, third and twelve. So again, Jade Daniels presents
a different dynamic for those rushers because he can break
the pocket. But I love what you're talking there. Even
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just by aligning guys and tightswomen. If I have to
think as a rusher, am I getting cracked?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
What's going on here? Like that slows me down?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Cadence is another huge part of this, right, those guys
are so juiced up. Can we go on a hard too?
Anything to slow those guys down? And again Tennis said
this already, Cliff and coach Johnson did such a great
job galvanizing that group last year and calling games. I
think they can handle it. But it's going to take
all hands on deck to handle this group.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, no, yeah, you're gonna have to coach your way
out of this.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
This one ain't just about to Jimmy and the Joe.
This is about the.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
X's and oh and the other thing. When you look
at this second game last year, like they were able
to run the ball, the Commanders were able to run
the ball on them, and then it negates the pass rush. Right,
So again, it's just if you're a ficient on first down,
second down, you're in manageable situations. Like they have this
package that they tried out the the Giants where it's
like Abdul Carter's playing three technique Brian Birds on the edge,
cave on tip at the edge, Dexa Lawrence at the shade,
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Like you don't want that, get that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
See that at any point because then we got to
deal with it. But so again, it's gonna be an
awesome physical matchup. I think the Jimmy's are a lot
better like Laramie Tunsel. I think can handle all these guys,
which is exciting. Josh Connelly's getting better. You mentioned bahaw.
But it's also there's some Mexics and O's elements that
need to be explored in the matchup like this.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He's going to have to have the mixes and O's
in this one, like you're going to y'all right, it
gotta be tight, for it makes like a lot of bunch,
a lot of stack, a lot of it because it's
muddy up the pass.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And the other thing that we that they do naturally
is just going on the hurry up. Because I'll tell
you watching a guy who's had to play fast down
in distances, try to rush the passer when they're a
little first game of the you're going to be a
little tired.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
That's how you take Dixie Lowers. Yeah, no time. You
already know it's been alone with. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So there's lots of tools. I think we have to
use all of them to kind of handle that group.
The other think we talked about a little bit already,
just a quarterback situation in New York, and I think
it's one of the most To me, it's maybe the
most fun group in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
They got a fun room, the eating ws, all.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Kinds of stuff. You know, you got Jamis and this
is I was gonna say, it's just fun because Jamis
is there.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Really, probably because it was just rusting by Staf you'd
been hearing so much Oh my god, you know, like
feeling paint your old politician.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
So and James gonna come in there with these so
funny man.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
I love he is the quarterback for its move.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Listen. I love James, and I actually think Jameis is
on the field like.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So, let's this is the question that I want to
ask you guys of the three who's the least who's
the who's the person you want to play against, and
who is the person who least want to play against.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
I want to say I said I want to play
against the rookie.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I'm gonna give you the right answer, the rookie because
I want them for him to be a rookie. Don't
get me wrong. We played against Russell. He's beat us
last year in Pittsburgh. He rust one of those guys.
Just when you feel like you have Russ where you
want him, he finds a way to get it done.
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So I'm never going to underestimate Russ James one of
those guys. He could be a hurricane for both sides. Yeah,
throw five touchdown and throw five picks, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Then the young guy, you know it's gonna be a
young guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You could probably put him in situations where he has
to think and it's just get overwhelming from So I
would say the rookie man.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
The only reason I would say Russ is because it
seemed like Rush is on the time clock right, like
you're a placeholder, like you're holding it for Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
This is this is first no go that quick. I
totally understand.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
But I think I would rather see the old politician Russ,
because I got.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So big in the trench politicians. He is a politician.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I was ready to see Russ because we got so
big in the trenches. He gotta throw over these guys.
He the shortest one of the quarterbacks. But the they
gotball all forget what I got, Trey Ams, I got
some more guys like to move on. So I would
rather play Russell off of size along like I want
to keep him in the pocket, wrapped up, and I
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want to make him throw over the defensive lineman not
in between. Him and Drew Brees do a good job
of party career. They don't throw over guy, they throw
in between.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So I probably have to say I'd like to play
Jackson Dart. I went back and watched all their clips
on the press. Everybody right, and so Jackson Dark there
is good. There's some really good stuff. You see the
arm town. You see kind of that elusive little bit
of crazy horse like el Josh Allen kind of I'm
running around and.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Don't do that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But if I'm playing against that, I'm like, yeah, yeah,
train Muscill picked that up, like Sanders doesn't make that go,
so there is a high, high ceiling. I think you,
I think you might be a good football player, right
but I don't think he's ready right now. When you
watch Russell in the preseason, like he can do like
there's a lot of limitations to his game, the size,
he can't run around the same we used to. But
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at the line of scrimmage, like he's playing so much ball,
like they have a big check with me package where
he's like, oh, it's two safeties, I'm checking on a run.
I'm doing this, And he hits some pretty impressive play
action shots and again it's down the field. It's these
moon ball shots and they've got enough speed on the
perimeter where it's like I think if they can run
the ball with Tyron Tracey, they want to.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He's not going to mess it up for it. Play
action is where he exhales it because he gets to
get deeper into his drop.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And this is one of the things I want to
say too, is they are a defensive lad football team,
so they just need to possess, possess offensively, possessed the ball,
possessed the ball, and then when when the look presents
itself shot, Like, so they're gonna get a body shot,
body shot run the ball screen Like if you watch
the way they called plays, it's like screen run Tyrone, Tracy,
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Theo Johnson, they're big tight end, that rookie from Penn
State who's a big, kind of freaky type of player.
And then all of a sudden it's like, hey, here's
second and two play action shot run. It's a post
to some guy from Notre Dame, I forget his name
over the top for an eighty r touchdown. Like that's
what they're That's what they're going to do to you.
And if you let them stay in a close game,
which the defense might allow them to do.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
No, No, the defense is going to keep them into
games until they're.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Not you know what I'm saying. No, that's the formula
for that. And I think because the defense, and again
we haven't talked about the secondary of the defense, they've
got a lot better in the back end.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Man, once you get been on the front of you,
I can have Moses in the back. We don't be Okay, what.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I'm saying, why Moses of all people?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You know when he pulled the sea. You know what
I'm saying people get out of the way.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What I'm saying is when you have a front like
that is a dB. I'm not backing up like I'm
not in backpedal mode. I mean, I'm going the oppotion.
I'm going down here like I'm playing down here, and
I'm sure those cornerbacks and safety like they're just inching
it like they.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Want you because you know you gotta get rid of
that football.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
But you got to watch you and you go down
here because you go down here on JD five when
he can break the play breaks down, like but see
they're going to give in the catch.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You gotta play zone against.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Right, they like playing zone. Shane Bowen defense, he's a
quarter sixty two and his change up pictures is the
man cover. You know what I'm saying. Like they want
to be zone pressures. They want to be zone. Yeah,
And so like that's where I think it's a eighty
five dictates.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
You got a zone bleaking, you can't you can't turn
your back to me. So I want to see I
want to see that back and forth with the offense
and defensive coordinator. I think that's gonna decide this game.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
I just want to say that that's.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
What basically come down to, because it looks like you
have players on both sides that can make it happen,
you know, defensively and offensively. Now is going to be
that chess match with the two O, the O C
and the DC to see who's going to outplay each
other or out scheme each other.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And then one I want to ask you about before
we move on to Washington, just kind of talking about
some stuff. There is Malik neighbors Man in both matchups
when he's healthy, there's devastating. He's a he's a had
a twenty five percent target tailat year.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
He's a problem. Yeah, he's a problem, and let's not
forget about the other guy. Then, Man, I paid him
to No. Eighty two, so I look up talking about
and I'm getting to brain freeze with him right now.
He's been he's been one of their I think eighty
six sarious. Yeah, Slaton is a problem too, yeah right.
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They don't give him enough credit.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
Yah.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
And I've been a fan of him since I saw
him route like, oh he got something.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, this is what I do love.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
A guy like Trey Aimin has been playing against elite
names since he's been in acenc so he ain't gonna
be shell shocked with him. Uh, Mike Sandristill got to
take something last year. A Lottimore is finally healthy. So
I think we're good in the back end. Like I said,
at the end of the day, this is gonna be
one of these things where I think the courtinators and
will decide this game. I don't think this is a
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football players game. I think this is a coaches game.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, So to me, it's how do you take away
elak neighbors? How do you stop the run? These are
like high level things, but like take take it out
of the defense's hand, and if the offense scores a
bunch of points and you forced Russ to have to
quote unquote cook like, I want him cooking back now
to ride.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I want him ride. This is what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So the way the way I think the offense cooks
is obviously Cliff is a They kind of spread you
out to run the football, but when that explosive opportunity comes,
they're able to capitalize it. So you've got Jane Daniels
and Terry McLaurin. Terry back in the fold obviously really
excited about that. But in twenty twenty four, twenty four
contested catches, that's first the NFL. Ten tds for single coverage,
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that's first the NFL. And one hundred and thirty five
point two quarterback rating that's first the NFL. So I
look at them and I say, like, if there, if
we can get some some of that some of that
same magic, yeah cooking this year.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
They stick out to you because it's the ten test
down where he's seeing the coverage disrespect to me.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
It's the quarterback of the single coverage. Yeah coverage to
the QBR rating is also really good there.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
When I see it, I say, you won't respect my
number one?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, right, but we're going to give ten touchdowns off
what I'm.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Telling you because you would never do it with Jam.
I love that disrespect, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I love it. But to me, oh yeah, in my head, I'm.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Like, because everyone throws that stut out, I'm like, it's
it's crazy that he doesn't. If this is the production
you're getting out of that group, and like that's such
a flash point of the offense. I think about it,
like there'd be games where he's quiet. But then I
look back at like the Pittsburgh game, the Philly game
where he's beating guys like definitively over the top of
the defense, which you say what you want about Jamar Chase,
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say what you want about some of these guys, Like
the way Terry just runs through coverages. I don't know
if it's how the if it's Jaden's ball.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Rice.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I've been telling you. I've been telling y'ut from day one.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
They don't give Terry enough credit as being a fast
because they don't They look at how he does it,
and they it's not sexy to him. It doesn't flash,
it doesn't jump off the chart like some of these
other guys, because no, why he hasn't been used that way.
You know, if you look at all the other quarterbacks,
you see Terry getting those catches, and you say, well,
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he didn't just flat out run somebody, run hill, catch
a bomb and keep it moving. It's almost been like
Terry had to grind. He based his game. His style
is basically from where he plays, where he's from. He
looked like a guy that came from Indy because everything
is always in the trenches with him. He catching these slants,
he's catching these underneath passes and then then every now
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and then you see him hit somebody down the middle
and you're like, oh, Terry just got behind somebody. You
surprised he can run. So he said this two years ago.
They don't respect he's a four three four four guy,
and I'm like, yeah, I respect it because I see it.
But it doesn't jump off the chot because some of
these other guys, they're doing it at nauseum. They always
going down and field with So that's what I love
about Terry's game because when you slip him and when
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you sleep him and not expect him to get down
fit on you. Like that cowboy game at home last year,
I wasn't surprised when he caught that thing and he was.
They don't respect that, and I want to see more
of that. I want to see us attack that. I
think if we with the addition of Debo having a
chance to have Noah out there too, with all those
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with those feel on the field, let's make Terry that
guy that take the top off. I guarantee you they
won't expected the other teams won't expect us to do
it because you haven't seen it. You've been seeing Terry
do all the hard stuff. Now you have debo for that.
Now you have knowing for that. Let Terry be that
guy that's gonna take the top ball.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
It becomes a really interesting player like playmaking group now
that he's back in the fold. Because again, like we
watched that or was that on Command Center last week,
we're watching those goals. Just how he works the stems
and how he's able to get guys to open their hips.
It's a it's like a masterclass in like subtle nuances
of poetry.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
It's always like he sneak up on him because they
don't expect him to be that fan before you know
you behind him.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, it's poetry in motion, like it's always admitted to
his madness.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I don't care if it's a little hitch.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I don't care if it's like a stud up the
head motion, like it's something that he's setting you up.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
And what's and what's special about it?
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Now you have the quarterback to put the ball up
quick enough so when he does it, he don't have
to worry about running thirty yards before the ball get
up in there.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You know what I mean? Now he's covered.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
If I beat you now with that subtle movement and
get you to move your feet that one little step
that I need and none of the ball coming down.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
By the time you recover, it's too late.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
There's the other thing watching all those explosive plays getting
ready for that is the ball placement.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Like their their chemistry was top shelf.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And so again like you talk about, oh man, how
do we get it out of out of the giants hands, Like,
get it out of it being a defensive driven football
game if you can pass, protect, hit it over the
top when those moments come, Like that's gonna be a
pretty devastating comment.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
And has kind of had his way with old Banks.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Apparently Banks is playing better. I mean, this is like
everybody's playing, you know, like this is like coming out
of the training camp.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Everybody looks good.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Everybody that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Everyone's playing school.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
So yeah, but yeah, I agree. I like that's gonna
be an exciting combination to see how the chemistry looks,
how they are coming back, And yeah, I can't I
really just can't wait. All right, now, time for the
fan favorite. Hell yeah or hell no, dog, you guys
are good, so good at that? All right? All right,
So this is a tough one. Malik Neighbors will be
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held without a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I believe in Trey. I believe Marsh and Mike. I
believe in Marsha I believe, I believe and Joe Witt.
I believe we can keep this lane.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
I think I'm gonna say hell.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Nowad like fifteen times he gets he gets a lot
of attempts.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
And we saw even last year when we held those
guys and they found a way to getting their rids on.
They're gonna find a way to, you know, get him
the ball, whether they bring him in motion, you know,
putting them somewhere where we you know, can't account from.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
And then he's on my fantasy. So I don't hold
him going but lot. But if anybody's going, we don't.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
We got we got new guys in the back in
yea the saying juice, I got a.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Question for you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So I actually think that, I actually think that uh
Marshawn Lattimore and Tremos actually match up really well with
him because it's a J.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Brown.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
They can't get ready.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
A J.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Brown is a free stallion. He's a big, fast, strong
Malik Neighbors is a smaller, not small, but a smaller guys,
I feel like you can disrupt him. And watching Marshawn
like I forgot how strong he is, like with his
hands and again Tramos with his hands and it lives.
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It feels like a I don't know, it feels like
a better matchup for those guys. Is that a fair
thing to say? You guys are a resident dB.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Experts, we have to think about it is I went
back and watched the battle between Trey Amos and one
Elik name was why Alabama.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Look at this guy who did his home? Do you
think you actually did that?
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Can't see you can't see me under the microscope. I
don't see you cook it. You tell me you do
it all the time. So well, meeting the professor, I
did go into the lamp.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
He did pretty good against him, Like he did pretty
good against him because you won't that familiarity.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Like that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
What this what he do?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
And then the.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
One thing about it is he can't beat you in
the phone, but if he wanted those wide receiving he's
so twitchy.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
But I believe these guys will put they'll reach out
and test somebody.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I think so too, And that's what you gotta do
against him, That's what and again like Russell Wilson, again,
this is not an indict be necessarily the leak neighbors
or like and I think it's it shows that the
dB room's gotten better.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
But Russell Wilson is not like a tight window.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
So if you can disrupt the money, he wants to
throw the moonball, he wants to throw the post the comeback.
He wants to throw outside the numbers and the leak neighbors.
Like his skill set is like I can run a
shallow I can run a slant, I can run a
tight choice route like I can do some of the
short area stuff and.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Russ that ain't a thing.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So yeah, I'm I'm gonna now that I've talked about
it a little bit, yeah, I'm gonna say hell yeah,
you know, yeah you with me. You know he'll be
help without a touchdown. So yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah, I
wasn't changed my vote because I was with you. I
was like, wait, I can't.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
You are all right? Russell Wilson will account for three
plus turnovers if he does win this stand. There's a
lot of turnovers.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
I go to I go go interception in a fumble
that's kind of didn't That's what he had last year
in Pittsburgh, Right, he had a fumble interception interception in.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
The I'm gonna say, hell no, I mean I did.
I just think it's too many.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
There's a lot of turnover for a venture quarterback in
week one.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, I'm going two turnovers interceptions, one of both varieties
a fumble interception, So I'm going.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Hell now, yeah, and I like the late interception because
they're gonna have to there'll be back and again. Like
he's got to know, Brian Daball, if I had any
kind of money, I put a it like that. They
are in the meeting, like, do not turn the ball
over because our defense we can win this.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Game for us.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
And the fact that Russell noted Jabo is sitting over there,
you know they ain't no his.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Day to put James in the game. So he got
he got a bitcher quarterback.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Two turnovers last year in the Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah, So what I'm saying is like, you know, you
got a guy like if it was just him and
Jackson Dark, he could get away with a couple of
three pick.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Game whatever, but but not with James over there, like you.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
Know that when they dress on three of those guys.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So you think you think would.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Well, now you can. Apparently the third quarterback doesn't count
against your roster number on game day.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, so you can dress three, So you can dress three.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But people have been basterardizing you can.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
So how many people can dress on game on game day?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Now?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So was it it used to be forty five forty two?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Right?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yeah, it's fifty three to be on the rock, but yeah,
and dress.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Forty seven and then now it can be forty eight
quarter quarterback because I think it's because the COVID th
or something.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
And if I'm wrong, it won't be Mitch playing quarterback.
They won't. They will. They want a quarterback to actually quarterback.
The game would be miss was the quarterback they made.
They made us team guy running back quarterback.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
So we'll say this, though I was thinking about it,
I do think the back ends better. So are you
going to get more ball production? Because like every day
every day in training camp, Mike Sanders side an interception
like tip ball whatever, like trains better ball skills, Marshall
Lannim are better.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
They're gonna be skin They're not gonna try. They're gonna
try Amos before they try Ricky.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
You know, maybe because they're better in the back end.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Three is a lot.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Though three is a lot. I can't do us like that,
you know, I can do it hate this way.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
You can talk so in your hell no, just because
it's a lot, but there is a path where it
does happen.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I say two, I say to say to all right,
Jamee Daniels will count for three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
They can be by laying.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Like that anyway he wants to, like listen, that can
easily be two rushing touchdowns and one throwing.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Three throwing like that? Can that can happenly in plenty away.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
With these guys that he has now you know, you know,
at at his disposal, I feel like you're gonna see
a lot of him putting a lot of touchdowns in
the air. I mean, don't get me wrong, We know
he could do it on the ground because anytime something breakdown.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
With this guy, he found he has a nose for
that end zone.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
But maybe he has some It's one thing last year
we saw we talked about this out the gate.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
You need more receivers, and he shows you.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
I got enough right here, but not to actually have
the names to go with what he does special. Yeah,
and then you're tight end playing as well as he
played last year, you just know that they're going to
have more packages for you know, Zach to go out
there and do his thing.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You see what I'm saying. So and even picked up
a little weight. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I enjoyed that he had the off season with plenty
of stakes and plenty of weights. Right, So hen picked
up just a couple of pounds And that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Right there, oltibug goodie right there? Yeah, oldism.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, you know he they coming back.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
So I will say this is a This is a
really interesting thing to me schematically because it kind of
shows like what they want to be offensively, Like do
they give him more responsibility in the red zone? I
think so and so if they do three touchdowns, seems viable.
But remember like last year they were pretty heavy running
the ball and inside the five yard line for a.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Touch Do you think they give him more responsibility at
the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 2 (47:31):
We had a lot last year.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I mean it's hard for me to think about him
getting more.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (47:36):
We have debo so don't forget that motion. We get
to push.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
That ball out to him and let him have a
little run off in the end zone. So I mean
you have plays like that. Depot can be your dim
your short yard is running back slash receiver.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
You can throw him with a little slip straightly and
get us out.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
I would not hesitate in the red zone to bring
fire wire receivers in and motion debo to see what
covers they in, Like you're going to have to show
me your hand.
Speaker 7 (48:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I think the other thing too, is like this is
something I get really excited about. It's like a football nerd.
It's like how has the offense changed? Like does Jayden
have a little bit more responsibility? Do we still lean
on the run early in the season? Like who are we?
Who do we want to be? Like what's the plan?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
You know?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Kind of because again, like you you don't really know.
Preseason doesn't tell you, right, training camp doesn't really tell
you nothing. Because I was thinking, like we how many
times like what was it the twenty twelve, right, and
when we played New Orleans, like we didn't really run
a lot of this like RPO bubble stuff and training camp.
But as we got into that game week it was like, Oh,
this is who we're going to be. And I think
there's a little bit of that maybe going on here.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
What i'n't bember watching you now, Robert kind of told
to child.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Total, Yeah, Robert told the child he had to just
do the ball off to all the guys you know,
you got especially outside remember that year was to me.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
And this is what I say, Like when you can
have all your receiver room with five hundreds, it's his
hundred yards because it's so many weapons. That's what we
have here.
Speaker 6 (49:03):
Now you have so many guys that can get it done.
Speaker 5 (49:06):
Like Nord don't get enough credit for what he meant
to this receiver cars last he did.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
We know what Terry can do, Dbo.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
We know what he can be if he's healthy and
have a full you know, Arsenal, you know, have a full.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Chance to beat the guy that he can be.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
And then you have so many other weapons and Zach
and our running backs who can catch the ball out
the backfield.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
So when I look at that and then you have
I guess you can say the fourth multiplier like you
always say that what he is Jaden days is is
he's elite of elite. Because he's not just beating you
with his legs. You have to respect that he can
do it. He beats you with his arm. He beat
you here. He knows how force multiply bingo. So you saw, yeah,
(49:47):
they pocket, they multiply. So when I see a quarterback
that has proven to the league that you guys like,
think about that game that that NFC Championship game, Philly said,
We're not we're not gonna rush him.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
We're gonna sit back and coverage and guess what he
was doing first.
Speaker 7 (50:05):
Now, it's pretty impressive. First actually first that he was
not the reason we lost. Yeah, so that's why that's
why this I say, the sky is the limit for
what he can be offensively this year with just the
weapons he have.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
And it's supposing Yeah, so are we Uh Jay Danis
will come for three touchdowns? Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, Northwest Stadium will be the loudest it's been
in years.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Well yeah, hell week one.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
We caught him off guard last year, like the fans
didn't know what to do by the time when we fire,
they were like, oh, I remember you doing.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I remember listening because when I'm driving home sometimes listening
your post came and you're like, it's okay to have
nice things, guys, It's okay to be happy.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
It's okay. Because they were like should I smile? Should
I talk trash to the cowboy?
Speaker 5 (50:50):
And I'm like yeah, But what I would say too
is we wasn't packing. We had a lot of fans there,
but we sold out. Now sold out with our fans,
you know what I mean. So yeah, we're gonna have
a couple of men. You gonna see some of their there,
but we're gonna treat them how Miami chreating more to day.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
We're gonna make it. We're gonna make them feel uncomfortable.
I don't think you coming down here and you're gonna
be comfortable you the whole night. I don't know what
to do. I put.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
But I don't feel stated when you see all that,
you know that Burgundy and gold Man, it's gonna be
a special day, man.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
You know, base going into the season with the expectations,
Like I think we went into the season last and
I think the fairy base went in there just chipper
and happy, not not really expecting player even if.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
They were happy, like like it was crazy, like there's
so much bad and then like all of a sudden,
it's good. I'm telling you, like they didn't I didn't know.
I remember doing this show being like, is this is
this real? We okay, but it feels real now. So
it's exciting and obviously you can tell where we cannot
wait for this game against the Giants, the visual game
(52:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Nice, nice to get that spots right there.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But I like how you grind through it right there,
Like how you grind through it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I like how you talk yourself through it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And football is in the air. Man, Oh it's here.
We were just talking about that.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
The weather got cool kind of right when that first
high school game started, kind of laying the table for
the NFL season.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It feels like football, like this is one thing about it.
Like you said, Monday, it was like one hundred degree.
Wednesday it with like sixty five degree that night, like
totally change what.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The football guys aligned with the weather guy. Once they
football go up in there, ye yeah, it cools down.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Especially up here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I mean you always get that kind of weather or
that kind of feel once the season rolls around. I'm like, man,
I'm not ready to put on coats, so I put
on put on hoodies, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But it's here, man.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah. I think the other thing that COEs with like
kind of football being here is getting a lot of
fan questions, a lot of you know, my dad asked
me everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's like the start of the scene.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And the thing that they keep saying is like, is
this our year?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Are we going to be able to get to the
Super Bowl? We're gonna have the same success we had
last year. And I think it's a really legitimate question
because I know everyone's got their you know, their their
their rose colored glasses on right now, But is this
really we really have a shot this year to back?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I think we do. I think I think every year
we all are optimistic. Every team in this lead says
to themselves like, we have a shot to get to
the Big Dance. But I think also you have to
be realistic within yourself. What did you do to build
on things that you did last year well or build
on things that you didn't do at all last year.
And I think when you look at our team, you know,
(02:12):
just from a player standpoint, you saw some moves where
you can say, Okay, we potentially got better in those
spots in total position room. Yeah, total position rooms. So
I think to me, that's the first step you have
to take. You have to fulfill a need or avoid
that's there. And I think we did that. Now it's
about putting that together, putting the excess and those with
those players. So because you you can also say there's
(02:35):
certain certain guys that might not be here that when
it came to exits and o's and that and and
that particular player, they fitted perfectly, you know what I mean.
So now do we have do we have that replacement
or do we have the guys that we didn't have
last year? And it's all about them going out there
and showing us.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You know, I think we got better with personnel. I
think we got better, Uh got realized a year old
in his offensive year old in his defense, So we
got intellect I think we got better as a whole
as a group.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think we flipped rooms.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
We flipped the cornerback room to the t We flipped
it so much that no egg Monogamy, who played a
big role last year as the fifth cornerback in that
room right now. We flipped the office line room. It's
a totally different room right now. So I think we
got better. And like they said, nobody's won back to
back division in this division in twenty one years, all right,
(03:27):
So do we got some going with us with Maybe
Philadelphia does have a little Super Bowl hangover. Maybe they're
just not as healthy as they weren't last year because
it's hard to go thirty consecutive games with me and
healthty like that. So you know, I think it's different
variables that that's pointing in the direction of it might
be our year.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, And I think just to kind of give some context,
and Jason did a great job researching this is you know,
back to the last time this team had back to
back playoff seasons was nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one, which,
if I'm not mistaken, is like considered the best team
all time. It's in contention maybe one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Hope but they already voted. It's the basis of the team.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And so obviously, like I don't know, it just shows
you how special that is to be able to get
back to those moments. And one of the things that
Tanna said that I think is great is they've you know,
I think back to twenty twelve, Tanna and we kind
of said, oh, hey, we did really well last year.
Let's just bring the band back. When we signed all
our free agents, we just came back with the same team.
And what I love about what Adam did is he said, no, no,
(04:30):
he understood that we were an imperfect team last year.
So the additions of Laramie Tunsll, drafting Josh connorlly, moving
Brandon Coleman to guard right, Deebo Samuel right, all of
a sudden, you're kind of like, oh, you know, like
the some of the areas of weakness on this team
last year now are better. I guess the question is like,
is it enough? And I think that's an unfair question
for you guys, because we don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I can't say we don't know, like we're better once
you got a quarterback, Let's just let's start there. That's
the that's the great equalizer to every team. That's when
some stink in the room. That's the perfume right there
that makes everything smells good. Now you give him, you
got tearry back. You add a debo to it, like
Luke McCaffrey in his second year. You added Jane Lane Uh,
(05:16):
like you had a Bill McCaffrey. You add a better
office line is in the totality. So that's a better
offense to me. And you're talking about Cliff Kingsbury not
having the hole back this year, not having to keep
guys in, not having to keep guys in the block,
having a Jane Daniel, this processing stuff faster, putting a
bigger load on his plate when it comes to play
(05:37):
call it. So, I just think we're in a better
window right now then we were last year, because last
year it had a lot of ifs. Everything was would
it be said? What did you said to say? Like
last year was a little bit like lucky. I know,
I know it's athletes. We don't like that word, but
there was a little bit of luck involvement. Now it
feels like to have luck like the ball, Come on,
what's the difference between the ball bouncing our way and luck.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's what I'm saying, You gotta you gotta like people
think people get mad about that, right in general. People
get mad like, oh, you gotta work at it, you
gotta grind. But we've played enough ball you know that sometimes.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Hey, Like I think also too, you have you have
to understand that with everyone in this league, in any sport,
you know, there's got to be luck to some of
the things that happens.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
You can go out there and play extremely well and
then the ball don't bounce your way. We've been there
a lot, but I think one of the things that
stand out more so to me from watching what those
guys they was prepared for those opportunities.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
It's one thing by saying, oh, we got it, we
just got this ball bag, or we got something in
our favor, but not being able to finish it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You know what I mean. How many times.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
You've seen the team or you've been a part of
a game with a team and you got a favorable call,
you got a favorable you know, turnover, and you wasn't
able to capitalize. This team was able to capitalize on
those opportunities. So do you call it luck or do
you call it being prepared for the for the moment?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, he think about it. Turnovers. Let's just talk turnovers. Defense.
They got luck with all of them, like Jeff, because.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Those statistics, it's extremely valatile.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Voluntier like Jeff, because we led the team, I mean
led the league and turnovers last year. That that guarantees
us nothing this year. Like you can't carry that over,
Like you can't carry it. Like maybe we were just
in the right spot at the right time, had the
right Russians. Like it's this combing nation of what happens
that day in like Tannis say.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What do you do afterwards?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Like anybody can get a turnover, but can you turn
into a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Are you turned into three? Three? Ain't good enough? You
need to turn into city.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
But I look at it like this too, because I
look at things from the totality. I say to myself,
what did this defense do a year ago? They wasn't here,
they were elsewhere? How did that turn out?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
How was those those situations, those turnovers? The uh you know, uh,
I guess you could say getting the offense back in
a conservative not conservative, but you know, winning that winning
the winning the field position play. Like I look out,
I watched how how it was in Dallas, and I say,
last year we wasn't quite what they were, but we
(08:11):
were there. You see what I'm saying. So I don't
look at that as being luck. I say they showed
us this the last three years. Two years in Dallas,
they had somebody that either led in interceptions or or
or all picks with interceptions. So that's not luck, that's
your defense put you in a position. Now as a player,
you can go out there and be you know, play
(08:32):
at a higher level because the defense allow you to
do that. So I look at that, and then I say,
what did we do by getting more guys in here
that can you know, excel when the defense.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Give those those opportunities.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I think we hit on that because we went out
there and got corners, we went out there and got safeties,
We went out there and got guys on the defense.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
That's when we put us in position. Don't put us
in position for those guys to excel.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's a great point. And it's kind of like this
weird thing. It's like luck, but it's also a confidence. Right,
So when you got a great coach. They're able to
kind of make you believe in the system, in the philosophy,
and you're able to kind of like, so you made
the comparison of Dallas, Like, when I watched Dallas, I
was like, they don't believe in what's happening.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You can kind of feel it when you're on the sideline,
you can feel it when you're watching the game. And
I kind of saying to myself, then that's one of
the reasons the coach gets fired. They don't renew his contract.
And I look at here and talk about guys who
just believe in Dan, They believe in the process, and
I think that's the first step right to doing something
really special. We mentioned the team ninety ninety one, right,
You mentioned that in twenty one years they've had a
(09:32):
different division winner. Last back to back NFC East champs
was the nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one team, right, And
again talk about kind of that perfect mixture of its talent.
It's a little bit of luck, it's great coach, it's
making plays right, it's great coaching, all those things that
kind of have to come together. And so I think
when you look around the division and you said, you know,
(09:53):
there's not been a back to back division winner a while.
How long is that? That's like thirty years almost, but
the no more than that they have been say forty years.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So but what I'd say is like, is there another
team in the division that you're like, oh, man, this
is the team we got to watch out for.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
We know?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What is a Super Bowl winning Philadelphia Eagles? Like, I'm
sorry they are They are stacked one.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Harvard Roseman is a wizard when it comes to being
a GM and a draft guy.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
He is man like he gonna feel in gaps.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yes, they lost people like all Super Bowl champions do
to free agency, and they lost sweat. They lost a
lot of guys when it comes to the trench warfare.
But they had guys already drafted like Nolan Smith, waiting
developing to who they are supposed to be. Then they
come out, then they draft Jaha Campbell's so they just.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
One guy after another. But is it going to be
a Super Bowl hangover?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And they talking about luck like luck can be a
positive thing, but you can also have bad luck. And
they were really really healthy last year. Yes, so they
take a bad injury, No, a Brown, what's his name Brown,
the receiver, Yeah, Brown, His hamstring kind of lingers throughout
the season, not as effective sake one gets nicked one week,
they're yeah, because they're not as deep as they've been
(11:08):
in the past. So all of a sudden you're like, oh, man,
like this team that's built with offensive studs, yeah, isn't
quite as good. So obviously they're They're kind of the
marquee of the division. Is there anybody else from the
Giants and the Cowboys that you say could make a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Before jer before Jaro did some Jerry stuff, dude, I
mean the most Jerry lonelyo.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Jerry Joe lonely Jerry Joe.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Like before the n I was like, you know what
these Cowboys when I looked at it, because you know,
they drafted a couple of dudes that I was very
high on, right uh, And I was like they might
Now that I'm looking at this roster with the run,
Blaine coming back, digs coming back.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Reveal, like, I'm like, they gotta be Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I was like, oh my god, Like I started to
really put this team together, not like on paper they
look pretty good, but in Jailer.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
What's his name, Jason do you remember his name? They
got from Boston College. It's not a book. A book
is a receiver.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
No, no, no, you're talking about uh it's Ricky.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, that's a rocker, Donovan as a rocker. There we go,
good job, Frederick got there. But yeah, but you bring
it in and you say, oh, man, that's gonna be
a nice you know, three man pass rush with Michael
Harson like.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That, and then all of a sudden, Jairo, I'm lost
for words.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I'm like, I don't know how bad he got over
there for you, just because now not even that you
know what this one thing and we were just talking
about this this weekend. It's one thing when you lose
a guy and when you hear the team start talking
about him, and you know it just it don't add up.
You're like, come on, bro, you cannot possibly see him.
Expect me to believe that Michael Parsons was a bat
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in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
He wasn't.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Like I saw this guy on the sideline for the
whole summer of training camp, having a whole meeting with
the defense, Like everybody who wasn't. That's that day they
were sitting there, you know, partaking the little I don't
know what they was talking about, but they had discussion
after discussion.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
So if this guy's not like trust me, you will
see a difference.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
You would see guys away from that guy and not
even being like, I don't care how much or how
little they like them. The plays that he made, you don't.
You don't find that from from from two guys that
loan one guy.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I'm gonna tell you why I like it.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
The great equalizer to the Jedi five is when you
pass rush him.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Power ain't good enough. You have to pass rush him
with speeds.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Me, the best speed pass rush in the league is
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The best guy creating quick wins too.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
He's the speed guy. Uh Myles Garrett, Power meet speed. Alright,
So if you take the great equalizer for this guy
out of the division, all right, and to me, it
changes everything. Now what I'm doing, Carter gonna turn into
we don't know yet. We don't know yet. He gonna
have every advantage.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
To turn it into that. But the only guy to
me that could slow him to slow JD five.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Down, Like if you look at it, every time we
played Dallas last year, Michael Parsons gave him trouble.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I remember prepping for those games last year. Yeah, you know, obviously,
Miles Garrett, I think it is maybe the best ed drusher.
But in terms of impact down to down, yeah, it's
hard for me to find somebody more impactful than Michael Parson.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
And all I can tell you is I remember doing
the pregame show in Dallas, and you know how we do.
We wrap it up and we got a head to
the you know, to the sweet or wherever we're gonna
watch the game, and on my way to the suite,
he had three sacks in the first series.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Dude, But that's that's telling.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
That's his name, and I'm like, I gotta hear him
and get to this name.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
What is going on?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
And it's just like so when I hear him and
Jerry had a beef.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Look, I was saying the whole time, I hope they
dragged this thing out to mid season because I just
expected him to be on the team regardless.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I had no clue that Jerry Wild let him get
up out of there, you know what I mean, just
off through especially after that whole little you know, a
show came out about Jerry and how he love his guys.
I'm like, Jerry ain't getting rid of this this this
guy like Michael Irving for this team.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, yeah, I knew Michael because he's still call him
Michael Michael.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
So when I saw that pop up and Adam shild
whoever it was, saying that he's gonna be I said, bro,
I just see some fake news and some popped up
on and this guy has got traded to Green Bay and.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You could have got so much more. It feels that way.
I mean, someone said this to me.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It's like, if you want to talk about Tree Henderson,
he's thirty years old and uh t J Watt is
over thirty years old. Miles Garrett's over thirty years old,
Michael Parson's twenty six years in the prime of his career. Yes,
it's like Reggie White, like.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
That type of player became available.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And you were just like cool, Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I see Kenny Clark not a guy guy, he ain't
man now he's stop it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
But he's thirty one years old. I could say thirty one,
do not rush the ass.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And just because I gave you Michael pottersons these first
round picks that I'm getting back probably gonna be thirty
twenty nine like these ain't like these top five picks,
all right.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But basically glorified seconds.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You couldn't tell me. They couldn't say, you know what,
give me with Sea Gary, give me.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Probably could have give me.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Sean Gary, two first round picks, give me, give me,
give me Walker get back.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Guess what, I'm whatever they got, that's their problem.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So anyway, we digressed. But it was kind of a
crazy thing to see, and we haven't talked about it before,
so obviously Dallas feels like they're in the midst of chaos,
ripping apart a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You got a rookie head coach. You got an overpaid quarterback.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right you know, form MVP, just to give him.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's my guy. I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Give MVT caliber player.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You got explosive number two wide receiver. Actually you can
explode both ways mentally physically.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
All I'm saying is it's dressing up to be one
of those ships that Dallis love. Just full of drama,
no wins. This drama after drama after the safe to.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Say, it's easy for us to sit here because they
got to play the game. So that's why I don't
I don't get too caught up into saying what the
team is going to look like once they you know,
get between the white lines. But I love the fact
that one of those guys that was a throwing and
eye you know what, won't be around.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So if the other.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Ones show up and it's still got to play anybody,
you know, but we gotta play them.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I mean, we don't see them twice. Now, we don't
see them twice, and that's a that's a shame. That's
a shame.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Right then, Obviously we're gona do a Giants privy here
in a second. But I think the Giants, because the
quarterback situation, don't feel like they could make a real push.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
But you know what, I feel like they got I
feel like they playing. I feel like it's an energy
in New York right now.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, I will say when you walk come up and
look at the idea and we'll talk about this. More
like they've gotten a lot better in the secondary. They've
got a lot better.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
On some there, some there.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
If if they had anybody, if they had if they
even had like Daniel Jones a quarterback, I'd be like
they maybe have a shot like that. That's really how
much better. I think they've gotten offensively.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
No, No, I think they got some guys.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I think they got they got what they got some
building blocks there they got. They got no more receiver legit,
they got deepensive line. Legit, they can run the ball, legit.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
They got guys.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
They got wide receiver one, they got the bid receiver too.
They got some dudes.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
All I know is too when you think about how
they played us last year. We beat them off of
field goals at the home game, and then we end
up going to New York and played a little better
and we still squeaked out and won that big They're
gonna come in here with confidence, you know, the Giants always,
like I said, they play us tough. I look at
what we have now. It's different from everything that we
had in the past.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So I don't look.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I don't go off of what happened in those years
of us playing, but the way they played in the preseason,
we need to match that intensity ace.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Speed they had.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Some can't come into this game saying that, Okay, we
got to get our stuff because they gonna jump off.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
They're gonna be ready.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Because of how I watched them with prost preseason, Like
when I saw them out there on the field flying around,
had starters in here and there, every quarterback and play. Now,
I'm not expecting much from the young guy, but you
putting any one of those veteran quarterbacks, they could spin it.
So you have to match the intensity out the door
and they gonna come with it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, So it definitely feels like there's an opportunity and
a window for us to do it. But just to
give some context, like that was our super Bowl, super Bowl.
This is our year.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
The last time it was our year was nineteen eighty
one when they won the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Again, the best team ever assemble ever. Not only this
franchise is his history, but maybe.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
They had a star on each side of the ball,
from special teams to outfense, defense, almost in every room.
They had a Hall of Fame like it was. It
was a different type squad.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, so I think it's it's definitely possible, but you know,
it's got to be kind of that perfect storm, that
cyclone of kind of things coming together and making it happen.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Could it be our year, absolutely, and Week one is
going to be the first opportunity for us to see that.
So let's start talking about the giants. And to me,
the thing that gets me all tingly gets really excited
is this heavyweight fight. Right so in the.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Blue corner, yep trench warfare.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, we got Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Caveon Thibodeau, and
Abdul Carter. I mean, that's that's a group right there.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Hey, listen, when is the worst player in the names
you just got?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
This is his top five pick?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Man? No, No, that would have like they.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Got four top five picks like this rushing the passer.
One got a paint, Brian Burns, you got Dixtion lawn
says Stable. He said it's the best nose going in football.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, I mean, second best defensive tackle in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So then you go to Doua Carter, the fleshy dre
u Pick and very Michael Parson is yeah. So yeah,
they got some dudes man like. But this is what
I do love when it comes to the edge guys.
The Thibadeau's, the Duel Carters, the Brian Barnes. It's only
one way to be the pass rush that's running the
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ball let is Keyston.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So we're gonna talk about the Burgundy corner. Yeah, and
we got Larry Tunsel, Brandon Coleman, Tyler be Ottish, Josh
Connelly and then Andrew Wilder Reverends a playing guard nick
already Yeah, and that group like when you kind of
lay them out like that, Yeah, like, man, that's they
can play. That's kind of a lot better man.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I like to also what we saw from those guys,
and not all of them, because all of them wasn't
you know, on the team with JJ J CJ wasn't
with those guys or Tunsu. But the way our offense
aligned worked together last year gave me I have the
confidence of knowing that whether we added to those guys
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or not, they was gonna come in as one, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That's what you need on the office of line. You know,
for so many years.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
We had the Chris Samue or the Trent Williams, they
had that one guy. Yeah, now we have a couple
of those guys in the center, to both of the tackles,
to even the gods. All these guys have a name
or have something by them that we like. But the
way their coach their coach as one, and when you
get the guys to play as one also being in
unisones with the quarterback because he also drives off of
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how well they blocked one last year. I'm okay, I
care who you put out there in front those guys,
cause they gonna come and play together.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You're right, this is gonna be a brawl.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
But guess what if you can if you can pass
this test, do you think you're gonna see a d
L equivalent to this?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I was just thinking about it. There might be better
run stopping groups.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
But in terms of pastors, nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And again like watching some of the preseason tape, like
Brian Burds, like when they put him on stunts, Skalon
thibodauways on stunts, like their ability to like eat gaps,
cut like cut like cut down running lanes and penetrate
like it's it's it's a it's a tough challenge. It's
a tough challenge. And Dexter Lawrence Man like what was
it like the first nine games last year? There has
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not been a more dominant player that I have watched.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But I can say is if anybody handled him, it
was tied to be hotish.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
That was yeah, put him in the cooler money.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Listened to me be honih.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I, Dixie, you will not be doing your deeds today,
all right. So if anybody I can say, keep him
in Chick.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It was beyond its Yeah, so I think, yeah, that
group is like watching them on third down in the
preseason the Giants.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
It was a track.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It was hot, it was hot, it was it was explosive,
it was it was it had a smoothness about it.
And it's just disrupted. This is what I saw. I
saw him disrupted everything.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So let's talk about it, like, how do you how
do you mitigate that group? And to me, Tred already
alluded to it. You got to run the ball. You
have just be a fishing on first down. So like,
that's running the ball, that's quick game, that's our po
that's being selected about your shots.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's Cliff calling a good game. The screens drop.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
The best way to stop a great pass rush is
to make them run sideway, to make them run what
we call empty gaps. Empty gap is, oh you didn't
y'all run, y'all stuck. But guess what, we're backing up
because we're throwing running back screen. Now you got to
retract yourself and run back. I come back the next
way and run right at you again. Here go to
think about it is I have to wear you down.
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It's only you have to earn the right to rush the.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Pass you have to You have to also too, you
know when it comes to some of the things that
you do schematically. You know when you start putting those
motions in and getting them to not be in those
sets that they want to sit in. When you start
getting those zips and zapps and cracking those guys, now
they not just running up field freely thinking they can
just get out there like you have to basically scheme
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up something to make sure that those ends are always
peaking to see what relation wise do I gotta do.
I got an extra blocker coming in down there on me.
You can't get them that have them comfortable. You got
free around when you got them thinking, you got them looking.
That's that one second that they needed to really get
up the field and be special.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So that's a great point, tenn because again the reason
first down so hard to rush the passers because we
can run the ball, we can go quick game, we
can go screen everything in the menus on the table.
I got to think the longer down in distance is
that's where they can be more aggressive and be more
tha ten, third and twelve. So again, Jade Daniels presents
a different dynamic for those rushers because he can break
the pocket. But I love what you're talking there. Even
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just by aligning guys and tightswomen. If I have to
think as a rusher, am I getting cracked?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
What's going on here? Like that slows me down?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Cadence is another huge part of this, right, those guys
are so juiced up. Can we go on a hard too?
Anything to slow those guys down? And again Tennis said
this already, Cliff and coach Johnson did such a great
job galvanizing that group last year and calling games. I
think they can handle it. But it's going to take
all hands on deck to handle this group.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, no, yeah, you're gonna have to coach your way
out of this.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
This one ain't just about to Jimmy and the Joe.
This is about the.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
X's and oh and the other thing. When you look
at this second game last year, like they were able
to run the ball, the Commanders were able to run
the ball on them, and then it negates the pass rush. Right,
So again, it's just if you're a ficient on first down,
second down, you're in manageable situations. Like they have this
package that they tried out the the Giants where it's
like Abdul Carter's playing three technique Brian Birds on the edge,
cave on tip at the edge, Dexa Lawrence at the shade,
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Like you don't want that, get that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
See that at any point because then we got to
deal with it. But so again, it's gonna be an
awesome physical matchup. I think the Jimmy's are a lot
better like Laramie Tunsel. I think can handle all these guys,
which is exciting. Josh Connelly's getting better. You mentioned bahaw.
But it's also there's some Mexics and O's elements that
need to be explored in the matchup like this.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He's going to have to have the mixes and O's
in this one, like you're going to y'all right, it
gotta be tight, for it makes like a lot of bunch,
a lot of stack, a lot of it because it's
muddy up the pass.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And the other thing that we that they do naturally
is just going on the hurry up. Because I'll tell
you watching a guy who's had to play fast down
in distances, try to rush the passer when they're a
little first game of the you're going to be a
little tired.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
That's how you take Dixie Lowers. Yeah, no time. You
already know it's been alone with. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So there's lots of tools. I think we have to
use all of them to kind of handle that group.
The other think we talked about a little bit already,
just a quarterback situation in New York, and I think
it's one of the most To me, it's maybe the
most fun group in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
They got a fun room, the eating ws, all.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Kinds of stuff. You know, you got Jamis and this
is I was gonna say, it's just fun because Jamis
is there.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Really, probably because it was just rusting by Staf you'd
been hearing so much Oh my god, you know, like
feeling paint your old politician.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
So and James gonna come in there with these so
funny man.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
I love he is the quarterback for its move.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Listen. I love James, and I actually think Jameis is
on the field like.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So, let's this is the question that I want to
ask you guys of the three who's the least who's
the who's the person you want to play against, and
who is the person who least want to play against.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
I want to say I said I want to play
against the rookie.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I'm gonna give you the right answer, the rookie because
I want them for him to be a rookie. Don't
get me wrong. We played against Russell. He's beat us
last year in Pittsburgh. He rust one of those guys.
Just when you feel like you have Russ where you
want him, he finds a way to get it done.
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So I'm never going to underestimate Russ James one of
those guys. He could be a hurricane for both sides. Yeah,
throw five touchdown and throw five picks, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Then the young guy, you know it's gonna be a
young guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You could probably put him in situations where he has
to think and it's just get overwhelming from So I
would say the rookie man.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
The only reason I would say Russ is because it
seemed like Rush is on the time clock right, like
you're a placeholder, like you're holding it for Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
This is this is first no go that quick. I
totally understand.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
But I think I would rather see the old politician Russ,
because I got.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So big in the trench politicians. He is a politician.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I was ready to see Russ because we got so
big in the trenches. He gotta throw over these guys.
He the shortest one of the quarterbacks. But the they
gotball all forget what I got, Trey Ams, I got
some more guys like to move on. So I would
rather play Russell off of size along like I want
to keep him in the pocket, wrapped up, and I
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want to make him throw over the defensive lineman not
in between. Him and Drew Brees do a good job
of party career. They don't throw over guy, they throw
in between.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So I probably have to say I'd like to play
Jackson Dart. I went back and watched all their clips
on the press. Everybody right, and so Jackson Dark there
is good. There's some really good stuff. You see the
arm town. You see kind of that elusive little bit
of crazy horse like el Josh Allen kind of I'm
running around and.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Don't do that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But if I'm playing against that, I'm like, yeah, yeah,
train Muscill picked that up, like Sanders doesn't make that go,
so there is a high, high ceiling. I think you,
I think you might be a good football player, right
but I don't think he's ready right now. When you
watch Russell in the preseason, like he can do like
there's a lot of limitations to his game, the size,
he can't run around the same we used to. But
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at the line of scrimmage, like he's playing so much ball,
like they have a big check with me package where
he's like, oh, it's two safeties, I'm checking on a run.
I'm doing this, And he hits some pretty impressive play
action shots and again it's down the field. It's these
moon ball shots and they've got enough speed on the
perimeter where it's like I think if they can run
the ball with Tyron Tracey, they want to.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He's not going to mess it up for it. Play
action is where he exhales it because he gets to
get deeper into his drop.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And this is one of the things I want to
say too, is they are a defensive lad football team,
so they just need to possess, possess offensively, possessed the ball,
possessed the ball, and then when when the look presents
itself shot, Like, so they're gonna get a body shot,
body shot run the ball screen Like if you watch
the way they called plays, it's like screen run Tyrone, Tracy,
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Theo Johnson, they're big tight end, that rookie from Penn
State who's a big, kind of freaky type of player.
And then all of a sudden it's like, hey, here's
second and two play action shot run. It's a post
to some guy from Notre Dame, I forget his name
over the top for an eighty r touchdown. Like that's
what they're That's what they're going to do to you.
And if you let them stay in a close game,
which the defense might allow them to do.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
No, No, the defense is going to keep them into
games until they're.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Not you know what I'm saying. No, that's the formula
for that. And I think because the defense, and again
we haven't talked about the secondary of the defense, they've
got a lot better in the back end.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Man, once you get been on the front of you,
I can have Moses in the back. We don't be Okay, what.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I'm saying, why Moses of all people?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You know when he pulled the sea. You know what
I'm saying people get out of the way.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What I'm saying is when you have a front like
that is a dB. I'm not backing up like I'm
not in backpedal mode. I mean, I'm going the oppotion.
I'm going down here like I'm playing down here, and
I'm sure those cornerbacks and safety like they're just inching
it like they.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Want you because you know you gotta get rid of
that football.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
But you got to watch you and you go down
here because you go down here on JD five when
he can break the play breaks down, like but see
they're going to give in the catch.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You gotta play zone against.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Right, they like playing zone. Shane Bowen defense, he's a
quarter sixty two and his change up pictures is the
man cover. You know what I'm saying. Like they want
to be zone pressures. They want to be zone. Yeah,
And so like that's where I think it's a eighty
five dictates.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
You got a zone bleaking, you can't you can't turn
your back to me. So I want to see I
want to see that back and forth with the offense
and defensive coordinator. I think that's gonna decide this game.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
I just want to say that that's.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
What basically come down to, because it looks like you
have players on both sides that can make it happen,
you know, defensively and offensively. Now is going to be
that chess match with the two O, the O C
and the DC to see who's going to outplay each
other or out scheme each other.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And then one I want to ask you about before
we move on to Washington, just kind of talking about
some stuff. There is Malik neighbors Man in both matchups
when he's healthy, there's devastating. He's a he's a had
a twenty five percent target tailat year.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
He's a problem. Yeah, he's a problem, and let's not
forget about the other guy. Then, Man, I paid him
to No. Eighty two, so I look up talking about
and I'm getting to brain freeze with him right now.
He's been he's been one of their I think eighty
six sarious. Yeah, Slaton is a problem too, yeah right.
(33:55):
They don't give him enough credit.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
Yah.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
And I've been a fan of him since I saw
him route like, oh he got something.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, this is what I do love.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
A guy like Trey Aimin has been playing against elite
names since he's been in acenc so he ain't gonna
be shell shocked with him. Uh, Mike Sandristill got to
take something last year. A Lottimore is finally healthy. So
I think we're good in the back end. Like I said,
at the end of the day, this is gonna be
one of these things where I think the courtinators and
will decide this game. I don't think this is a
(34:22):
football players game. I think this is a coaches game.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, So to me, it's how do you take away
elak neighbors? How do you stop the run? These are
like high level things, but like take take it out
of the defense's hand, and if the offense scores a
bunch of points and you forced Russ to have to
quote unquote cook like, I want him cooking back now
to ride.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I want him ride. This is what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So the way the way I think the offense cooks
is obviously Cliff is a They kind of spread you
out to run the football, but when that explosive opportunity comes,
they're able to capitalize it. So you've got Jane Daniels
and Terry McLaurin. Terry back in the fold obviously really
excited about that. But in twenty twenty four, twenty four
contested catches, that's first the NFL. Ten tds for single coverage,
(35:08):
that's first the NFL. And one hundred and thirty five
point two quarterback rating that's first the NFL. So I
look at them and I say, like, if there, if
we can get some some of that some of that
same magic, yeah cooking this year.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
They stick out to you because it's the ten test
down where he's seeing the coverage disrespect to me.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
It's the quarterback of the single coverage. Yeah coverage to
the QBR rating is also really good there.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
When I see it, I say, you won't respect my
number one?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, right, but we're going to give ten touchdowns off
what I'm.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Telling you because you would never do it with Jam.
I love that disrespect, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I love it. But to me, oh yeah, in my head, I'm.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Like, because everyone throws that stut out, I'm like, it's
it's crazy that he doesn't. If this is the production
you're getting out of that group, and like that's such
a flash point of the offense. I think about it,
like there'd be games where he's quiet. But then I
look back at like the Pittsburgh game, the Philly game
where he's beating guys like definitively over the top of
the defense, which you say what you want about Jamar Chase,
(36:10):
say what you want about some of these guys, Like
the way Terry just runs through coverages. I don't know
if it's how the if it's Jaden's ball.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Rice.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I've been telling you. I've been telling y'ut from day one.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
They don't give Terry enough credit as being a fast
because they don't They look at how he does it,
and they it's not sexy to him. It doesn't flash,
it doesn't jump off the chart like some of these
other guys, because no, why he hasn't been used that way.
You know, if you look at all the other quarterbacks,
you see Terry getting those catches, and you say, well,
(36:45):
he didn't just flat out run somebody, run hill, catch
a bomb and keep it moving. It's almost been like
Terry had to grind. He based his game. His style
is basically from where he plays, where he's from. He
looked like a guy that came from Indy because everything
is always in the trenches with him. He catching these slants,
he's catching these underneath passes and then then every now
(37:08):
and then you see him hit somebody down the middle
and you're like, oh, Terry just got behind somebody. You
surprised he can run. So he said this two years ago.
They don't respect he's a four three four four guy,
and I'm like, yeah, I respect it because I see it.
But it doesn't jump off the chot because some of
these other guys, they're doing it at nauseum. They always
going down and field with So that's what I love
about Terry's game because when you slip him and when
(37:30):
you sleep him and not expect him to get down
fit on you. Like that cowboy game at home last year,
I wasn't surprised when he caught that thing and he was.
They don't respect that, and I want to see more
of that. I want to see us attack that. I
think if we with the addition of Debo having a
chance to have Noah out there too, with all those
(37:51):
with those feel on the field, let's make Terry that
guy that take the top off. I guarantee you they
won't expected the other teams won't expect us to do
it because you haven't seen it. You've been seeing Terry
do all the hard stuff. Now you have debo for that.
Now you have knowing for that. Let Terry be that
guy that's gonna take the top ball.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
It becomes a really interesting player like playmaking group now
that he's back in the fold. Because again, like we
watched that or was that on Command Center last week,
we're watching those goals. Just how he works the stems
and how he's able to get guys to open their hips.
It's a it's like a masterclass in like subtle nuances
of poetry.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
It's always like he sneak up on him because they
don't expect him to be that fan before you know
you behind him.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, it's poetry in motion, like it's always admitted to
his madness.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I don't care if it's a little hitch.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I don't care if it's like a stud up the
head motion, like it's something that he's setting you up.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
And what's and what's special about it?
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Now you have the quarterback to put the ball up
quick enough so when he does it, he don't have
to worry about running thirty yards before the ball get
up in there.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You know what I mean? Now he's covered.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
If I beat you now with that subtle movement and
get you to move your feet that one little step
that I need and none of the ball coming down.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
By the time you recover, it's too late.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
There's the other thing watching all those explosive plays getting
ready for that is the ball placement.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Like their their chemistry was top shelf.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And so again like you talk about, oh man, how
do we get it out of out of the giants hands, Like,
get it out of it being a defensive driven football
game if you can pass, protect, hit it over the
top when those moments come, Like that's gonna be a
pretty devastating comment.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
And has kind of had his way with old Banks.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Apparently Banks is playing better. I mean, this is like
everybody's playing, you know, like this is like coming out
of the training camp.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Everybody looks good.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Everybody that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Everyone's playing school.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
So yeah, but yeah, I agree. I like that's gonna
be an exciting combination to see how the chemistry looks,
how they are coming back, And yeah, I can't I
really just can't wait. All right, now, time for the
fan favorite. Hell yeah or hell no, dog, you guys
are good, so good at that? All right? All right,
So this is a tough one. Malik Neighbors will be
(40:05):
held without a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I believe in Trey. I believe Marsh and Mike. I
believe in Marsha I believe, I believe and Joe Witt.
I believe we can keep this lane.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
I think I'm gonna say hell.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Nowad like fifteen times he gets he gets a lot
of attempts.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
And we saw even last year when we held those
guys and they found a way to getting their rids on.
They're gonna find a way to, you know, get him
the ball, whether they bring him in motion, you know,
putting them somewhere where we you know, can't account from.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
And then he's on my fantasy. So I don't hold
him going but lot. But if anybody's going, we don't.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
We got we got new guys in the back in
yea the saying juice, I got a.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Question for you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So I actually think that, I actually think that uh
Marshawn Lattimore and Tremos actually match up really well with
him because it's a J.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Brown.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
They can't get ready.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
A J.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Brown is a free stallion. He's a big, fast, strong
Malik Neighbors is a smaller, not small, but a smaller guys,
I feel like you can disrupt him. And watching Marshawn
like I forgot how strong he is, like with his
hands and again Tramos with his hands and it lives.
(41:36):
It feels like a I don't know, it feels like
a better matchup for those guys. Is that a fair
thing to say? You guys are a resident dB.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Experts, we have to think about it is I went
back and watched the battle between Trey Amos and one
Elik name was why Alabama.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Look at this guy who did his home? Do you
think you actually did that?
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Can't see you can't see me under the microscope. I
don't see you cook it. You tell me you do
it all the time. So well, meeting the professor, I
did go into the lamp.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
He did pretty good against him, Like he did pretty
good against him because you won't that familiarity.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Like that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
What this what he do?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
And then the.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
One thing about it is he can't beat you in
the phone, but if he wanted those wide receiving he's
so twitchy.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
But I believe these guys will put they'll reach out
and test somebody.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I think so too, And that's what you gotta do
against him, That's what and again like Russell Wilson, again,
this is not an indict be necessarily the leak neighbors
or like and I think it's it shows that the
dB room's gotten better.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
But Russell Wilson is not like a tight window.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
So if you can disrupt the money, he wants to
throw the moonball, he wants to throw the post the comeback.
He wants to throw outside the numbers and the leak neighbors.
Like his skill set is like I can run a
shallow I can run a slant, I can run a
tight choice route like I can do some of the
short area stuff and.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Russ that ain't a thing.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So yeah, I'm I'm gonna now that I've talked about
it a little bit, yeah, I'm gonna say hell yeah,
you know, yeah you with me. You know he'll be
help without a touchdown. So yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah, I
wasn't changed my vote because I was with you. I
was like, wait, I can't.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
You are all right? Russell Wilson will account for three
plus turnovers if he does win this stand. There's a
lot of turnovers.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
I go to I go go interception in a fumble
that's kind of didn't That's what he had last year
in Pittsburgh, Right, he had a fumble interception interception in.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
The I'm gonna say, hell no, I mean I did.
I just think it's too many.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
There's a lot of turnover for a venture quarterback in
week one.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, I'm going two turnovers interceptions, one of both varieties
a fumble interception, So I'm going.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Hell now, yeah, and I like the late interception because
they're gonna have to there'll be back and again. Like
he's got to know, Brian Daball, if I had any
kind of money, I put a it like that. They
are in the meeting, like, do not turn the ball
over because our defense we can win this.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Game for us.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
And the fact that Russell noted Jabo is sitting over there,
you know they ain't no his.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Day to put James in the game. So he got
he got a bitcher quarterback.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Two turnovers last year in the Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah, So what I'm saying is like, you know, you
got a guy like if it was just him and
Jackson Dark, he could get away with a couple of
three pick.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Game whatever, but but not with James over there, like you.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
Know that when they dress on three of those guys.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So you think you think would.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Well, now you can. Apparently the third quarterback doesn't count
against your roster number on game day.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, so you can dress three, So you can dress three.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But people have been basterardizing you can.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
So how many people can dress on game on game day?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Now?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So was it it used to be forty five forty two?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Right?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yeah, it's fifty three to be on the rock, but yeah,
and dress.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Forty seven and then now it can be forty eight
quarter quarterback because I think it's because the COVID th
or something.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
And if I'm wrong, it won't be Mitch playing quarterback.
They won't. They will. They want a quarterback to actually quarterback.
The game would be miss was the quarterback they made.
They made us team guy running back quarterback.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
So we'll say this, though I was thinking about it,
I do think the back ends better. So are you
going to get more ball production? Because like every day
every day in training camp, Mike Sanders side an interception
like tip ball whatever, like trains better ball skills, Marshall
Lannim are better.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
They're gonna be skin They're not gonna try. They're gonna
try Amos before they try Ricky.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
You know, maybe because they're better in the back end.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Three is a lot.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Though three is a lot. I can't do us like that,
you know, I can do it hate this way.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
You can talk so in your hell no, just because
it's a lot, but there is a path where it
does happen.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I say two, I say to say to all right,
Jamee Daniels will count for three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
They can be by laying.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Like that anyway he wants to, like listen, that can
easily be two rushing touchdowns and one throwing.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Three throwing like that? Can that can happenly in plenty away.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
With these guys that he has now you know, you know,
at at his disposal, I feel like you're gonna see
a lot of him putting a lot of touchdowns in
the air. I mean, don't get me wrong, We know
he could do it on the ground because anytime something breakdown.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
With this guy, he found he has a nose for
that end zone.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
But maybe he has some It's one thing last year
we saw we talked about this out the gate.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
You need more receivers, and he shows you.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
I got enough right here, but not to actually have
the names to go with what he does special. Yeah,
and then you're tight end playing as well as he
played last year, you just know that they're going to
have more packages for you know, Zach to go out
there and do his thing.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You see what I'm saying. So and even picked up
a little weight. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I enjoyed that he had the off season with plenty
of stakes and plenty of weights. Right, So hen picked
up just a couple of pounds And that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Right there, oltibug goodie right there? Yeah, oldism.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, you know he they coming back.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
So I will say this is a This is a
really interesting thing to me schematically because it kind of
shows like what they want to be offensively, Like do
they give him more responsibility in the red zone? I
think so and so if they do three touchdowns, seems viable.
But remember like last year they were pretty heavy running
the ball and inside the five yard line for a.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Touch Do you think they give him more responsibility at
the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 2 (47:31):
We had a lot last year.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I mean it's hard for me to think about him
getting more.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (47:36):
We have debo so don't forget that motion. We get
to push.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
That ball out to him and let him have a
little run off in the end zone. So I mean
you have plays like that. Depot can be your dim
your short yard is running back slash receiver.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
You can throw him with a little slip straightly and
get us out.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
I would not hesitate in the red zone to bring
fire wire receivers in and motion debo to see what
covers they in, Like you're going to have to show
me your hand.
Speaker 7 (48:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I think the other thing too, is like this is
something I get really excited about. It's like a football nerd.
It's like how has the offense changed? Like does Jayden
have a little bit more responsibility? Do we still lean
on the run early in the season? Like who are we?
Who do we want to be? Like what's the plan?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
You know?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Kind of because again, like you you don't really know.
Preseason doesn't tell you, right, training camp doesn't really tell
you nothing. Because I was thinking, like we how many
times like what was it the twenty twelve, right, and
when we played New Orleans, like we didn't really run
a lot of this like RPO bubble stuff and training camp.
But as we got into that game week it was like, Oh,
this is who we're going to be. And I think
there's a little bit of that maybe going on here.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
What i'n't bember watching you now, Robert kind of told
to child.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Total, Yeah, Robert told the child he had to just
do the ball off to all the guys you know,
you got especially outside remember that year was to me.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
And this is what I say, Like when you can
have all your receiver room with five hundreds, it's his
hundred yards because it's so many weapons. That's what we
have here.
Speaker 6 (49:03):
Now you have so many guys that can get it done.
Speaker 5 (49:06):
Like Nord don't get enough credit for what he meant
to this receiver cars last he did.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
We know what Terry can do, Dbo.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
We know what he can be if he's healthy and
have a full you know, Arsenal, you know, have a full.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Chance to beat the guy that he can be.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
And then you have so many other weapons and Zach
and our running backs who can catch the ball out
the backfield.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
So when I look at that and then you have
I guess you can say the fourth multiplier like you
always say that what he is Jaden days is is
he's elite of elite. Because he's not just beating you
with his legs. You have to respect that he can
do it. He beats you with his arm. He beat
you here. He knows how force multiply bingo. So you saw, yeah,
(49:47):
they pocket, they multiply. So when I see a quarterback
that has proven to the league that you guys like,
think about that game that that NFC Championship game, Philly said,
We're not we're not gonna rush him.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
We're gonna sit back and coverage and guess what he
was doing first.
Speaker 7 (50:05):
Now, it's pretty impressive. First actually first that he was
not the reason we lost. Yeah, so that's why that's
why this I say, the sky is the limit for
what he can be offensively this year with just the
weapons he have.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
And it's supposing Yeah, so are we Uh Jay Danis
will come for three touchdowns? Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, Northwest Stadium will be the loudest it's been
in years.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Well yeah, hell week one.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
We caught him off guard last year, like the fans
didn't know what to do by the time when we fire,
they were like, oh, I remember you doing.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I remember listening because when I'm driving home sometimes listening
your post came and you're like, it's okay to have
nice things, guys, It's okay to be happy.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
It's okay. Because they were like should I smile? Should
I talk trash to the cowboy?
Speaker 5 (50:50):
And I'm like yeah, But what I would say too
is we wasn't packing. We had a lot of fans there,
but we sold out. Now sold out with our fans,
you know what I mean. So yeah, we're gonna have
a couple of men. You gonna see some of their there,
but we're gonna treat them how Miami chreating more to day.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
We're gonna make it. We're gonna make them feel uncomfortable.
I don't think you coming down here and you're gonna
be comfortable you the whole night. I don't know what
to do. I put.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
But I don't feel stated when you see all that,
you know that Burgundy and gold Man, it's gonna be
a special day, man.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
You know, base going into the season with the expectations,
Like I think we went into the season last and
I think the fairy base went in there just chipper
and happy, not not really expecting player even if.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
They were happy, like like it was crazy, like there's
so much bad and then like all of a sudden,
it's good. I'm telling you, like they didn't I didn't know.
I remember doing this show being like, is this is
this real? We okay, but it feels real now. So
it's exciting and obviously you can tell where we cannot
wait for this game against the Giants, the visual game
(52:13):
at Home Northwest Stadium. It's going to be awesome, man,
really really really excited. But that's going to do it
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