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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Come up to get a loud podcasts. It wasn't great.
It wasn't good, but we will talk about it. Get
into Commanders and Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
You have to turn the page. They're about the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Oh, we'll talk about that as well.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
This is a sneaky good team event. And we got
my boy logan policy so smooth on the.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Primary ticketing partner of the Washington Commander's whole crew is here. Yes,
no sleep, no sleep. Look at the bags under these eyes.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey listen, you must be going traveling to Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I look like and it's got a police on. No,
we all wear glasses on. We all worked late last Yeah.
I didn't get off air to two o'clock in the
Oh my god. It was one of those nights, especially
when the game had the emotional highs and the emotional lows,
and you right there in and the were gonna do
what we always do and beat the team that we

(00:52):
should not beat, right, and you think it's gonna happen
at the Patrick Mahome, tell me take me here, Jenks. Okay,
Patrick Mahomes throws the that can pick where's your mind
at At that time, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Like, we got this, We're gonna pull the upset.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
All right. At halftime with the score tied, how are
you feeling, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Like, this might be slipping away? Like and then third quarter?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
No, I'm gonna tell you where I was. Okay, halftime
I was afread.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh were you?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I was afread? This is why I was afraid?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, why we had went to the red zone three
times and had no points to score for. Yeah, we
had two turnovers and did not score points out of
those turnovers.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
You cannot afford to do that with Kansy City on
the road. You cannot afford to do that with one
of the best head coaches and one of the best
quarterbacks of all time. If you get them to a
slow drip in a slow start, you have to compound
on them not Do you know the difference if they
was down ten points compared to being.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Tied mentally and just game flow, it changes everything. And
I thought, man, we wasted those opportunities. Did They're not
gonna They're not gonna play the same in it?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Say no, no, they're going to go in and come out
with an answer at halftime. It was my whole thing
trapped in my head, like what's gonna be Andy Reid's answer.
And there was a lot of four by one and
there was tons of motion and there was tons of.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Pushing the ball.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
They really started to kill us with the medium routes, right,
they started to really go fifteen ten yards in dig routes.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Find these soft spots.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Man, even when we did our job on the loan,
play the Travis Kelcey, everybody's covered, right, everybody's covered.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Everybody did their job. D line, DB's.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Linebackers, and Kelsey's in blocking and he blocks block, block,
block block. I'm gonna leak out now. And they have
such a relationship. I don't know whose relationship is closer,
Travis Kelsey's and Patrick mahomes and Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift.
I don't know who connection is tighter. But he's seen
that he needed an outlet. Gave him the outlet.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Thirty yard run changes everything.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
So even when we did our job, the greatness of
Patrick mahone seeped through the game.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, and when you give him that much time, because
you're right, when you saw the reverse angle, Kelsey was
in line with the rest of the old lieman blocking
his butt and then slips out And you're like, that's
how he was so wide on because he was not
meant to be.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
But that was not part of the play design.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
But that's when you play with each other for eight years,
Like they don't even have to look at each other
to change the route, Like he knows where he gonna
be at, Like Travis knows where my help is needed.
Right if if if I can't complete this block, I
need to slide out.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
If I was.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Supposed to go ten yards to end and they covering
the end, I'm gonna go hook up and go out.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
I want you to talk to me about that, because
I think this is so interesting. Where Look, that was
not the play design, It was not the play call.
But it was instinct and chemistry. Yes, And that's something
that you can't teach what makes good marriages.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Instinct's true. When you have a relationship that you're on
the same page, you see the picture exactly the same,
You're going to do things that other people cannot do.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
It very much can to Steve Young and.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Jerry Rice Yep, Jerry did not have to run the
route that was called for Steve Young Joe Montana to
hit him. We've been in the same offense, this Seaford
offense for thirty years, all right, if they jumped this,
you do this, it's always causing effect. And because we
did this, because we played this so well, they did this.
So what I'm saying is, as a boxer, every time

(04:39):
we had a good punch combo, they had a counter.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
They had a counter, and that counter was offscript.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
And who better in the league offscript than Patty Mahone.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
He's the best.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Watching him waddle down the field, you cannot hate them,
but it's the opposite team. I cannot like them.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's weird because I God, he drives me crazy, Like
when I hear Bram's radio call and my homesticks the
spot is short, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Of course he does.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
He always does like he's but I respect. Look that
comes with being great. Yeah, you get the calls and
you're always complaining. People may not like you, but you
have to respect them.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Michael Jordan, it's the Michael Jordan treatment. It's the mj treatment.
When you are royalty, you are treated like royty, Like,
why are you shocked?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I put like this. We all been in high school.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
The class value Victorian walks around like they boo boo,
don't stay and the rest of us like, you know what,
that's the smartest person in that And we have to
look at that right daily and just wonder why can't
I be the smartest? Because they're smarter than you. You

(05:57):
did not get what you did, not achieve what they achieved, right,
And because he's achieved so much, even the slightest thing,
people are gonna look at it of the objection. But
when I look at this, I say, did we stopped
their receivers? I thought we did a good job on
they receive I thought we did a good job in

(06:18):
the running game. I knew special team that was the
only facet that we was out right, you're.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Saying on the radio like that's what we have the
advantage here.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Pre game when we talked, yeah, I said, if special
teams come out and make plays and put us in position,
we can win this game. First player of the game,
Luke McCaffrey takes the ball back. We're better than them
in that aspect. We set ourselves up, and I just
think that's why people are not so high and not
so low because at the half it's this we're in it,

(06:52):
but we're supposed to be putting them out of it, right,
We're supposed to be pedal to the metal. Marcus Mariota
Tea for Tea, your pat made some great throat made
some that throw to ter mclawin.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
That rainbow or the one down the sideline, both right.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
What ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
First of all, mister Terry, welcome back, all right? That
second catch putting that knee in this and he was
held on that play, by the way, no no pass interference.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yes, we getting no love.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'm like, you're holding back his arm.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Listen to me.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
God, that play was magical. It was I thought I'd
seen the smurf jump up on the screen. I didn't
know what happened.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
It was a magical throw of magical catch.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Was awesome.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
But that rainbow. I waited for that ball to come down.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I was like, what is he.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Like? Why is the ball so hot? That's what I said.
But then when I seen that tear drop hit that bucket,
I was like, my god, Marcus Marioda, are you going
back to college right now? Because he dropped it and
Terry that toe tap.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Oh just I mean you can't get more of a
fine line between getting both feet in and the possession.
Because at first I was like, Okay, it's out of bounce.
But then I looked again, I'm.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Like, he caught that ball.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Best tap dance of all the time?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh man, is it Gregory Hines, Gregory Sammy Davis June,
which one.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I did not think I was gonna hear Gregory reference. No, no,
we're talking tap dan.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
No.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
No, you're right, though, You're right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
We're talking people with bottle caps on the bottom of
their shoes. Who is the best tap dance all time?
Is it Sammy Davis? Is it Gregory?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Probably Gregory Hines. I think Sammy Davis was pretty dope.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I think Sammy was more of a true entertainer in
all right.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Gregory Hines was known for his acting and he could
absolutely tap. But Sammy was the consummant, you know, rat
packing her saying yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah. So it was this edge to right then,
it wasn't to Gregory.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
But watching Tea tap dancing and End Zone, it's magical.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
It was.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
But if you think you're gonna go to Arrowhead and
have all those chances in the first quarter to put
points on the board and you don't, and the kicker
situation was kind of eerie. It kind of dictated how
we played offensive defense, right, And to me, it put
us in a good spot because it was all in

(09:25):
and we're gonnac seven. We ain't gonna score nothing, right.
I had nothing against that. I was like, yes, that's
how you have to play this game. You had to
go in this game and say, you know what, we're
gonna score points or not. And I thought, and everybody
never look at like ending on downs is not a turnover.
That's a turnover.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
It is.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
And we did that twice and in the r zone.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
And it's tough because I understand the aggression and at
the same time, it's a very fine one.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's a thing.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's a thin line.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's a thin line.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
And if you don't, damned if you do. If you don't,
So this is the situation. It got sticked up there.
And I don't believe, like, I'm not one of these
people that go out here and say, you know what,
there was.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
A grace for loss?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Right, No, no, no, we lost.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
We got whooped, but guess what, we played football with them,
that's right. We played football with them for a minute
before the game got out of head.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
You know.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
And when I when I saw that one spot in
the first half on a fourth down where I think
it was zach Ertz who caught that pass, and then
they used the electronic measuring. My god, I thought the
robot yes.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
And I was like, hey, right now, is not what
you're thinking that the chain game could have got that done.
We would have gotten that, we would have got that
correct at the end of the day. And could you
believe is I said, at home and watch the TV
copy of this game, no Taylor Swift signs.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
There was like one one we were watching a home
and Katherine was like, is she at the scarce?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I was like, I don't know, listen, I don't know this.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
When I was like, we got a chance to win,
it's no Swift deciding right now, it was just they
was not focused on her right And I said, you
know what, We're gonna go out here and the burnt
ends and the rehebs won't.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Say them.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Because all I got calls from was how the fans
would love and eating burnt ends in Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
You know what, I gotta mention this really quick so
you know, Brian Kelly got fired this week right from LSU.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Congratulations, he deserved it.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Someone posted a story that got some circulation a few
years ago, and it was about how when Brian Kelly
was recruiting at Notre Dame, while he was in this
recruit's house, he got the call like, hey, you're the
new head coach at LSU.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
He comes back inside, but mama had made burnt ends.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, so he ate three plates knowing I'm not going
to crue you any longer, but ate those burnt ends
and it's like, hey, it's great to see you guys,
and then left and never came back because he had
to have the burns.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I was like, I kind of respect that I feel
to say, I can't get mad. I would have I too, Like,
come on, you've dated a girl that she took you
home to meet the pears. Yeah, pears making burn ends right,
And I'm like, me and her are not going to
make but I'm going you're not gonna make it, but
I'm going to eat burn ins like it's certain food
you cannot turn down. Yes, it's certain food, especially when

(12:30):
they're done. They've done right right, cook, slowly, smoke, slowly,
and Kansas City is the home of Burnie. Like they
put it in mac and cheese, they put it in
everything good.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'm just saying, they just put it in everything.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
So if you invite me to your house and I
know I'm about to break up with your daughter, but
your cook burnt ends, I'm going to stay for the
loan haul.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
You know the best recruit store I ever heard. I
promise we're gonna move on. Is that back in the
wild days recruiting Eric Dickerson?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
All right, this was this one ATMU Yes, all right,
So Eric Dickson is from Sealy, Texas, and he never
really gives it an answer to the story.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
And it goes that he committed the Texas A and
M right because Texas A and M came over and
they gave him like a gold trans Am, which in
the eighties.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Was doctor Judge.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, So as the A and M recruiter, it's I'm sorry,
pre and I M no.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
This is the origination of yes exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
So as the A and M recruiters coming out like
I dropped off this car. All right, he's got this car,
he's got the title.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
He's going to be an aggie. The SMU recruiter is
walking in.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Eric Diggerson gets paid, signs with SMU and drives that
car to Dallas left and you.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Know what, you can't take it back, right because if
you do, you turn yourself and if you.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Think I'm lne.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
SMU got the death penalty, you.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yes, and you got the def pen at the time
because it was two running backs. What was the other
running by James White running back?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yes, yes, on the Express.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yes, they had these two running backs and they went
all out and they got executed.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh yes, what they did? Like did they did?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
They did? They make them stop playing football?

Speaker 4 (14:04):
For they are the only school in NCAA history to
get the death penalty. And people don't understand. SUMU was
competing for a national title. They were filling up Texas Stadium,
which is before AT and T.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
They were legit.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, and it shut them down and it crippled them
and they were terrible for decade, for.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Decades for dicas.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
And they'll never do it again.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
No, no, it never will it happens.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Bernie ins h burn ins, Hey, come hang out with
us November three, Monday, eleven am. Oh that's next week, right, Yeah,
it is at Verizon and Dulles Doug Williams is going
to be there, Gary Clark, Santana Sean go to twenty
two hundred dollars retail plows Suite one seventy two, Dallas, VA,
two to oh one six six and leaves your voice

(14:49):
mails seven oh three seven two six seven four one nine.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
All right, back to this game. I believe we have
the presser, Yes.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
We have coach sound from his presser after the game,
and we're just gonna just.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Happening to your breaks. In my heart, pumpkin stuff I.

Speaker 8 (15:04):
Thought heading into the game and early and the energy,
the juice and the speed I saw and felt that
from the minute we stepped on the field. And that's
honestly what we're looking for. But man, did we leave
a lot of opportunities out there tonight. And you cannot
leave that many chances out there and expect to win,

(15:25):
especially against this team, not capitalized on the turnovers, not
winning our fourth.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Downs they did.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
It was great to see us get in some of
the takeaways. You know, that's been an emphasis of what
we've been hitting on. But you know, leaving here, you
cannot leave that many opportunities out there. And walk away
from this place with a win. And you know, like
the intensity of the first half. But I just thought
the opportunities for us to make our mark and we
didn't nail those. So you're not going to walk away

(15:51):
from here with a win.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
And yep, He's totally correct. You do not capitalize on
them early turnover as you don't not have a chance
against one of the most electric quarterbacks of all time.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
You just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
It's like a boxer. I can only take so many
hits from Mike Tyson before.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I got a laying something right.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
And if you don't demolish me, yes, like at one
point you have to just I got to be the
one that lay in that hit, right, And if I'm
not that one, I don't have a chance to win
that battle. Like I say, I hate this time of
year too much, Pumpkin, Like I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Like why do I have to walk again?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You love Halloween?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I love Halloween.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yes, I'm dressing up as Bruce leroy off for the
Last Dragon.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Like Adam might be too young to even know who
Bruce lee Roy is.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
It took me a second and I was like, oh,
last perfect yes.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Last Dragon.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yes, So I'm dressing up as Bruce Lee Roy. I
enjoy Halloween. I think Halloween has quickly turned from a
child celebration to grown folks celebration because people don't. We
don't really take our kids trick and treating other people
houses no more.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, there's not really a thing anymore.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
All right now it gives us its grown people chance
to be a kid again. Yeah, for twenty four hours,
you get to dress up and put your grown folks
stuff to the side.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
For twenty four hours, you get to be an idiot.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
We're gonna dress up and I won't even say because
I'm telling you the lovely Catherine. She's got this. She
has a gift for costume design. Yeah, so we won
a couple contests. So she missed a college. She should
have been in movies. Oh, she should have. She did
some acting for a while. It's in regional theater. But
she can like, we have this great idea. We don't
want to give it work, Like we think this can win.
And so she ordered all the materials and she's gonna

(17:46):
put it together on Thursday before we go out.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
So she's super to. It's crazy talented.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
So she's going she going straight Susie Homemaker.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
She was like, I got this, I got this, and
here's I'm gonna create this, and here's where the wire's
gonna go. And I was like, and she goes, and
I'm thinking I'll go through the felt here because she
can say. I was like, yeah, yeah, no, six seven,
six up, which is clever.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's clever, but also a lot of people are gonna
do it. I feel like, oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, you can't do the thing. It's like, it's like
women dressing. It's Holly Queen.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I mean, and I thought it was cool. She's like,
is it six seven? It's not, it's not, No, it's
it's really good.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I think you gotta go original.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I think the people that really put thought into Halloween copstumes.
They reach for movie, They reach for characters. Yes, like
some character that somebody played in the movie gives you
an easy out. Then let's say a superhero is right,
like a simplicate like the Big Lebowski or something like
some simple like that gives you an age that Captain

(18:53):
America doesn't give you. So yeah, I'm deep down into
my costume thing.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
But you know, just Halloween.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I love Halloween.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I just these sixty days when we.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Cherished the pumpkin.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I'm not really I'm not a person of that elk.
I don't believe in pumpkin. I know it's a fruit,
but nobody treats it.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Like a fruit. It's true.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Nobody shops for it, nobody needs it to break down.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I just can't.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
I heard we're gonna have a fall bake off on
Command Center.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
We are gonna have one, but I promise I won't
be baking.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Like what I'm saying is, I just don't believe in
useless things.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Also, you know, I found this out yesterday in the radio.
You know who loves candy corn?

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Nobody Santana Moss his favorite candy.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
That that does not cause Santana has the soul of
a ninety year old man. A right, So that doesn't
shock me that Tanna probably got dirty candy corn in
his pocket. He dug out of somebody's grandma or coffee taint.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Dirty candy.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Come on, candy corn, it's the dirtiest candy about it.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
The thing, well, the thing is, you can take it
anywhere because it's got that hard shell, so it could
be on the floor.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
You be like, ay, still it's still fine.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
He gonna think about candy corn, any candy that you
could just sit out for months.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
And it's still okay.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
No it's not.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I mean it's not, but it in theory, it is.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Why did.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
When you think about life, life is simple, we as
people make it complex.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Grandmama, that's simple.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
She had this candy corn with all this filth on it.
We never got sick.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
She polish it off every year. Listen, ready for another Halloween.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Like just wash the.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Bowl every eight months.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
She would wash the candy corn ball, like.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Every eight months, Like what is going on?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
All I'm saying, is this your candy of choice? Tells
me who you are. I'm learning about my kids. He
is the next generation doesn't really like chocolate.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
My kids don't eat and it's not promoted and not
advertised like it used to. When you were a kid,
getting a candy bar was a rite of passage, and
now you don't see it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
First of all, nobody owts heath bars like heath bars.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
What about a score bar?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Heath bos, score bars, mouths arm and joy. I don't
even the old school. I don't see how they still
get made.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
You know, it's funny years ago, back in the Comcast
Sports the NBC days, I had a score bar from
the deli downstairs, and I feel someone standing over my
shoulder like staring, like what's that? And I was like,
I turned around, it's B Mitch, and B Mitch is like,
j you dont eat that school bar.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I'm gonna take it.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And I was like, yes, you know, was real?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yes, I was like all right because he was just
standing there above me.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Like, Anna, don't even know what the school is now,
s k O R.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
It's like an elevated heath. But you're right, that's an
old schools.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Good listen, Jake's your candy bar taste? It's terrible, man.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, Then what are your top three top three canna bar? Yeah, Hershey's,
Hershey's Kisses. You can never beat pure chocolate, can we agree?
I mean, I love you. Yeah, here's a delicacy.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I don't care if it's American's finest. Okay, I don't
care if it's Hershey's pure chocolate. It is finest, purest,
point all right one, Hershey, Hershey Pennsylvane, Milton America, okay, Milton,
all right?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Twigs.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Twigs is a great choice.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Two fingers, not one twigs. Okay, it could be shared.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Now, you're not gonna need it together? Right, you split
them apart? Right, twist, Yes, it could be shared. It
never melts. Have you ever seen a TwixT that melt?
It never melts.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
You put in the sun.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It might Instley crunch.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
That's old school too.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Nesty I can say crunches.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
They're going my top three with your top three?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh my god, well, I mean I'm old school snickers man.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Man, come on, I can do a kid.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
I'll tell you what though. What might be number one
is Reese's peanut butter cup.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
I could do Reese's as I get older. Peanut butter
not my favorite.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, it's not out of it.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I grew up in that sun down sad eating that
Reese is in the sun. Ree has got to be
eating cold.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I guess we should get on this.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Hey, we went s grat sugar us.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh your sugar rush. Okay, so they're talking about rushing.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
How about the defense we've talked about Terry talked about
Jeremy Nichols.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, we mentioned him.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
He was great. Nichols was good. Sent it made a play.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
We had a you know what this is what I
want to bring attention to the youth.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Movement, Okay, and it needs to happen.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Tylan Senate, Luke McCaffrey, Jayleen Lane, the youth Trey amos Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I thought these guys play well.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I thought they showed that if you give us more reps,
we can develop. And they go to damned if you do,
damned if you don't, scenario end, because we are in
when now mode, right, you're kind of pressure to play
the veterans, but you still got to play the youth
because that's who you're gonna turn it over to. Kay

(24:33):
Madrono dressed yesterday. Sure that ran down on special teams.
So to see the youth movement and Martin Lord have
mergered man making plays out there. So to see these
guys step up, make plays, say hey, yes I am
in class today, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I thought that was a good signal.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
All right, we got some stuff brewing because when I
watch Kansas City, we didn't watch them rebuild their offensive line.
Several times, we watched them rebuild a defense totally.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
And it's a youth movement. That's what they got going
on right now.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
They got Patrick Mahomes with a couple of veterans like
Kelsey and most of his youth movement.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Let me ask you this, because it's we're talking about
to find line asks me when you're sitting here.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
At three and five, I've been there and you want
to win and it's not over.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
But also if things are getting away from you a
little bit, is now when you pivot into that youth
movement and said, let's get these guys some reps.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Not yet okay, not.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yet to the point where we're built to rend.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Don't forget.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
The Los Angeles Rams was in the situation we is
right now.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
They were in last year.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's a good point.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
They ended up ten and seven in a legit playoff threat.
A lot of injuries they had, they waited on guys
to get back. Once they got back Matthew Stafford, then
they venture court. They got the role in the game. Right, Well,
we can do the same things. The threat is the
one you least see coming. Well we are the one

(26:12):
you least see coming.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
We audit it.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's gonna be some team that's five and two that's
not gonna make the playoffs right now. It's gonna be
some team that's three and five or three and four
that's gonna make the playoffs. Can you put it together
when it counts? Can you can you chain together a
couple of wins in the right Can you beat the
teams you're not supposed to beat, which I never look
at teams as not supposed to be any given Sunday,

(26:37):
ming team can win?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (26:38):
The Jets won all right, And I was hoping the
cable man came to my house and cut my cave
off because I don't want to like watching them. So
what I'm saying is, can you get healthy at the
right time? Can you screen some games together? Can you
make some plays that you haven't been making?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
So else one defense, Marshawn Lottimore got in her eception.
Bobby Wagner got one, but Marshaan, I feel like, really
he needed I told you he said it was coming.
It's like a battle in the battles box with the yips.
When I see one go over the gate show head
Tonny style.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh my god, he's a maniact.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
That game, I mean hit on home one line. That
game game last night was and game lasted three days?
Like baseball? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Three days? It's crazy?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
But like the battles in the Battles Box, James Wood. Whoever,
once you see one go over the gate, you feel
good about the mix, yea Marshall Alattimore gets the interception
back show to fade, great play, Patrick Mahons, they give
they give you a swag back. Yeah, because see, I
felt like for the last couple of games he's been

(27:50):
he's been playing.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
With how should I say, he's been.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Playing with anger okay, and trying to whipping eyes and
instead of playing with swag.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
It's a difference.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
There is a difference, especially as a.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Defensive back like y'all can tell when I swag is starting.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
To disciplate, because that confidence means you play within yourself,
but that anger means you kind of get out of
super so.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
You start to cut outside the live exactly. And this
is what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
A litt bit too much, holding a living too much,
grabbing a living too much, slamming, and swag was wavering.
But now you go out there, you make that play,
Your swag is back, Your swag is there. Defensive backs,
I tell people all the time, you cannot play that
position not believing in yourself. Yeah, because if you don't,

(28:38):
it seeps out of you and the people can see
it and smell it through the right Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
And I bet if, especially if you're on the field,
when if you ever felt like this guy is not
he is not confident right now, and I got him.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, I've been on the field and I can sniff
the fear, Like, look at this dude.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
This dude don't believe in itself. His grandma don't believe.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
In this like like I could tell yeah, because you like.
And that's why I said. It was just important for
him to get out there and make that play.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
That was huge. Bobby Wagner got his soul. That was nice.
So the defense did some nice things. In the first
step of the second half is when things sort of
fell off. So what changed.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I think it went to uh Patrick Mahon saying, our
game plan that we have for the Washington Commanders doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
They got our number. I'm gonna cut outside the lines, Okay, when.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
The play breakdown, I'm going full Patty Mahomes. And that's
what he did. Look at all the big plays in
the second half, they're not off of legit play calls.
They offered the play extending itself and breaking down and
Patty mahomes putting on that magic all right, that's what
he does. That's what he do. That's what he been doing.

(29:52):
And it's running. Let me tell you this, he would
he'll water.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
He just waddles, all right.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
But he does it as just the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
He's very shifty, like he's just shifting. He's just shifting
and fast enough.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Now I'm gonna tell you what he is.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
You know how we go to the basketball court for
a good Saturday hoop session. Yeah, and it's this fat
guy that want to play point guard.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
No, no, it.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Happens every time.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, Hey, he's the fat guy that plays point was
like Luca before he lost some of that wave.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
How is this dude moving like that?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
How?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
And why?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
That's what he is. He's inefenble. It's almost like you
know it's coming. Can I stop it? No?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Because he does it in a thousand different ways. And
I thought we had the offensive line number because I
felt like we won trench warfare. But with him, his
scrambling ability to go get the first down, he's a
scrambling ability to extend the play, to throw it to
Kelsey or throw it to somebody else. Juju Smith shoes
uh rachine rights, Like they just got so many weapons.

(31:04):
I knew the damn was gonna break at one point.
Could we take that? Could we take the own slide
of points. If you don't score points against this team,
you don't win.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Man.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
That's a good analogy with the point guard because every
now and then you'll see somebody with the way they
move with their body type, and it doesn't make sense,
like you watching the co lead me, oh great, because
that dude was pudgy and he but he could play
to lead.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I mean, you couldn't stop the fat point guard.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Like everybody loves the fat god the anomally.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Everybody loves the anumbally because that says you shouldn't be
what you are, right.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's like watching an old lineman who can dunk a
basketball with a different type.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's a different type of freak athlete.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
If you ever shot ball with Trent Williams, you lead
the court like, how is that right?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Trent will take the ball.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Forty feet dunk like literally, like that's just true athlete.
Like I'm talking about unbelievable athlete, like something that you
never seen.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know, And I believe it. I absolutely believe, Like
some dudes just dogs, right.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Some dudes just the one percent of the one percent.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's like, you don't want it with him at anything, you.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Don't want it with him. I don't care what it is,
what situation it is. They just different.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Laviar Arrington with that type of alpha athlete, like, some
guys just got that in factor.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And we got a couple of guys on this team
with that effected.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
So we got Seattle coming up.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Seattle's coming off the bye week, the first in the
NFC West, So how do you prepare for the Sea?
The Seahawks, I think, are one of the most interesting
teams in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Threatening teams to me, they're really.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
They're just that team that just kind of sits there.
They do everything well, that's great, No, everything good, but
they play complimentary football. They're coached well, their defense is
really good.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Darnold has come up.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
This is what I want to happen on Halloween Week. Okay,
I want Sam Donald to dress up as Sam Donald
for the Jets. Okay, has mono, Yes, he has mono,
and I want him to see ghosts.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
He needs to go back in time.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I want him to dress up as Sam the Jet
Donald and I want him to see ghosts yet again.
I think Halloween week is a great week to see ghosts.
I want a rendition of him. That's not been the
new Sam do all right, and they travel well. They're
road warriors. They play well. You would think they'll play

(33:35):
better with the twelve at home, right. That's always been crazy.
It's always been one a thing. They had a bird
in the hand. They always had home fill advantage. Now
they play well on the road. Now, the question is
you had a bye week. Are you gonna come out sluggish?
Are you gonna come out slow? You gotta travel to
the East coast. You know how they can be on
the West coast team Jackson Smith and Jickma.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
He's a Nickma right.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
He can play, he can get out there and he
can get it.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I said, he's coming out of Ohio State. I was like,
he is.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
He is very much a hybrid between Terry Glenn and
Joey Galloway.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
He can he can do it all.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
He can get deep on you, he can run the
inside routes, he can play schlot, he can be emotion man.
It ain't nothing he can't do. In him and Sam Donald,
they got a monogamous relationship going on, because he's not
throwing it to anybody. But yeah, I mean why not
you see what I'm saying, Like, so that makes it
you gotta take him out that game. Yeah, Like, if

(34:38):
I'm coach with rule number one, take Jackson Smith and
Jigma out and see who else got something. Yeah, like,
I want him out the game. I don't care if
it's a double, I don't care if it's a high low. However,
you gotta take him out the game. You got to
take Jackson Smith and Jigma at this game.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
What he thoughts on Sam Donald, I'm a huge fan
of his story.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Yeah, because you know, quarterback position, what you talk about
on the show all the time is so fascinating because
it's the hardest position on Earth.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Shortly to right, shortlyash and then think about it.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Not only do you come out with these outside expectations right,
the game takes a long time to learn. And then
if you're in the wrong franchise, if you have the
wrong coordinator. I don't think it's a coincidence, And certainly
time and experience has something to do with this. It's
not a coincidence that you go to the Jets and
then you go to the Panthers and you don't get
it done. But then you go to the Vikings and

(35:30):
the Seahawks and all of a sudden, you're a different quarterback.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
First of all, the Panthers had him and Baker at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Oh, I forgot about it.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
They had two people that was looking for a do over. Okay,
he gona think about it. Like you said, you drafted
high shorter leash. Yeah, they give up on you. They
move on, Ye, the next hot story, to the next
hot thing. When this player only needs trial and error,
he needs to be in, he needs to fail so
he can succeed. They go to think about it, like

(36:01):
they so quick to throw these guys out and say
what they can't do into a team say I'm gonna
show you what you can do, and I'm gonna lean
into that. One thing I like about Baker Mayfield Baker
is better as an underdog than an overdog.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Even his numbers are better when he's an underdog. Like
the metrics bear that out.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
When when you tell Baker he cannot you have just
scruck a match, and he loves it. He religions in it.
And I like Baker with the attitude. I like Sam
with the attitude because once you like rubbed me the
wrong way. You notice these quarterbacks they had is No,

(36:43):
I'm not buying the in attitude no more. Yeah, I'm
an outlaw. You want to treat me like an hoyelaw,
That's what I shall be. And I like it when
they grab it because the NFL will turn his back
on you. The NFL will tell you what you cannot
do before they have to give you a chance.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
All right?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Who could have took the Browns to the playoffs? When
Baker took the Browns to the playoff? Do you not
think the Browns would love to have Baker.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Mayfron Are's another example, went to the Browns, went to
the Panthers, went to LA for hot second all of
a sudden with a franchise on the come up and
a coach, and have Liam Cohen.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
As an old Los A roster. It's like very good quarterback,
exceptional quarterback.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Well guess what if I came out and got drafted
to the worst team, right, I'm gonna be I.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Can't lift this much?

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Say vicious cycle like imagine you know the Jets just
go through this again and again and again sam.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Ward going through it now, Yeah, that's right. I'm with
a bad organization at a bad time. I look bad,
so therefore people gonna associate me with being bad. That's
just what it is. It's a looking to draw in
the NFL. That's why I always tell players. I got
a call from Prime Time on Draft Day when I

(37:56):
dropped twenty some spots and he was like, sometimes I'm dropping,
not bad, and I did not understand what he was
trying to tell. That's good point, it's not a bad thing.
And then I watch guys like Aaron Rodgers drop draft day.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
The one of the best organizations in the NFL, and.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Mark Jackson drop going to the Baltimore Ravens instead of
the Cleveland brown Right, all right, dropping ain't bad, all right?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Patience.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Patience is a virtue, like sometimes you gotta realize if
you get the only way to get to the right spot,
you gotta sacrifice something, and they gonna be draft status. Yeah,
you're gonna sacrifice their draft status. But in wild second, right,
they draft status and being humiliated on draft Day comes
to silver lining of uh, I'm with a great team

(38:50):
at a great time.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
It works also before we move on and get to
your voicemails, your emails. See that's defense le number one
against the rush, yes, sixth and scoring tenth overall.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, this is a legit d No, No, it's a
legit d McDonald like one of the best they ever
do it. When it comes to putting the defense together,
he already had a lot of tools to work with
over there, cornerbacks galore, over there, defensive line. They gets
added line back and court pretty damn good. Seattle is
one of these rail rounded teams that is no one
thing you could point out to say, this is why

(39:26):
they're a good team. Right, they do everything good. They're
not great at anything. I called it a renaissance man.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Yeah, that's that's a dangerous team because it's you know,
I know we always say on any given Sunday, but
the Seahawks are truly a team you can.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Week in and week out, they can't identify what makes
them a legit threat, right because it's all it's the
full roster. It's the full team that makes them a
legit threat. And I think that's what gonna make them
a hard contest for it. But like I said, maybe
coming off of by week, they started a little bit
slow a right, Maybe be a little bit sluggish traveling from.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
The West coast to the East coast. Maybe it works
in our favor.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
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This guy ready to.

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Speaker 3 (40:33):
Boy, you are the human football computer. This would I
call you? Because nobody the main frame, nobody would text
you at two in the morning, like Logan talking about
what what do you see on this play? I see nothing,
but I leave this what I see right now.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
But I texted you at two in the morning. What
you have you constantly consumed?

Speaker 9 (40:52):
That means that's that's how I determined.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
My friend brothers passed it out from how would you
treat a list? Frankin Drie, what do you do?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
So I got to ask you, they's the human computer.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
You didn't had time to process to gain Ye first
had sick in Hey what changed?

Speaker 9 (41:12):
You know what's funny is I have to help Pat,
you know, Pat the the sound technician, clean up, and
so I get to listen to your post game right after,
and I think you said something that actually is very smart,
and I'm not don't repeat that to anybody, but when
when you said, like when they get those turnovers and
they're not able to capitalize offensively versus a good football team,

(41:32):
like that to me is hiding a little bit of
some of the mess. You know what I'm saying in
terms of like, hey, they weren't super efficient and stopping
them on third down, they're able to get a turnover
defensively to kind of hide some of that, which is great,
great play by Marshaan, great play Bobby, Like that's exactly
what they've been looking for the last couple of weeks.
But offensively, you need to go down you just score points.

(41:53):
What was it, it was seven to seven going and
a half, Like we we let offensively kind of drop
the ball there. I think in terms of saying like
you want to to tip the scale. Yeah, but if
it's twenty one to seven going in the halftime.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Line, now they played they played College are totally different percent.

Speaker 9 (42:06):
So I look at that, and then I look at
the second half and it's just Patrick Mahomes defense, like
from a defensive standpoint, doing Patrick Mahomes stuff, man like
extending time to throw. The longer you hear, the more
he extends, the more the zones, the more the man
coverage gets stressed in the back end, leads to explosive
plays offensively. I think one of the things that was
true with in the first and the second half is

(42:27):
as the first down efficiency decreased, the offens's ability to
convern on third down became less absolute.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah right, yeah, And I also feel like if you
don't if you can get these touchdowns and forced them
to play from behind, the game flow changes.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Now all the.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Emergency becomes to the Kansas and achieved. Now that run
game is taking out the game, and now you get
a chance to really go out there and make some plays.
And I think we lift it on the shield. Like
I felt, I was afraid at seven seven at headtime,
So was I.

Speaker 9 (43:00):
I mean, I think a lot of people should have done.
It was exciting it was encouraging to see them kind
of come out and throw go punch for punch, But
it was interesting, like after the second touchdown, the team
came out so energetic, but you could feel them there
was a fatigue starting to set it in, and I
was like, it'd be interesting to see if they can
carry this energy in the second half.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
And I felt like Joe, we called a hell of
a game for four quarters because when I looked at
the second half and say, let me look at these
big plays. The big play to Travis Kelsey, we got
them covered, we got everybody covered, and he's blocking. Yeah,
I just did veteran in him and Patrick Mahomes tied
to a screen, he just leaks out, nobody's assigned to him.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
He makes the big play.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
So all the big plays in the second half to
me was all Petrick Mahomes magic.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Like he extended these plays, He made them happen.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Let me ask you, is it just because there wasn't
enough pressure on Mahomes because again, that wasn't part of
what you paint design.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But if you give him that much time, he's gonna
make something happen.

Speaker 9 (43:55):
So I think the big thing for me is like
everyone talks about pressure, which is super important, but also
it's like the continuity of the rush. I think when
you look at Patrick Mahomes, I think that makes him special.
It's like when he's in the pocket, he's going to
do subtle stuff, but he's not gonna be able to
extend the play the same way as when he's able
to get out of the pocket. So I look at
some of those like we're getting really high on our rushes,
he's able to extend in the low red, we're rushing
inside when we should be keeping contained. He's able to

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get outside the pocket. So it's it's a combination of things.
It's it's yes, would you like to get more consistent pressure?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Who doesn't want?

Speaker 5 (44:25):
Right?

Speaker 9 (44:25):
But I think to me, it's the rush lanes, the
rush consistency, the rush continuity that really jumped out to
me because, like Fred said, like Patrick Mahomes is going
to do some magical things. You can mitigate some of that,
but the second he gets out and the second he's
got more than four seconds to throw, because I think
on three of their explosive plays he had more than
four Yeah, right, Like I don't care what defense you

(44:48):
have called. Nothing is designed to play the down that
long right. So Fred brings up a great point on
the on the Travis Kelcey explosive on the checkdown, like
it's man coverage. Patrick Mahomes gets out of the pocket
or extends, extends to play in the pocket. Excuse me,
and people's eyes just get lost because it's two and
a half three and a half seconds and like you're

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just not using that.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
And now I got to check the second route, that
third right, and it turns into something different.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
It's it's backyard football. But this is what he is
sales in.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
He excels him and that's why I felt like we
lost that game in and that why I feel I said,
Joe Witt had a plan, and I felt like we
leaned away from the Frankie Louvu shadowing Patrick Mahons in
the second half. I didn't see that as much as
we did in the first half because it was one
run that Patrick got when Frankie went left and Pat

(45:41):
shot out to the right and he ran for like
fifteen yards. But I felt like later in the game
we shied away from that. I thought we should have
shoed to that.

Speaker 9 (45:50):
Yeah, I mean that was the two minute that was
their two minute plan like drop a play two man
underneath and have him be the spy. But I saw
that he was kind of playing the straight defensive end,
which is I liked it because it gets Jordan McGee
on the field, and I think Jordan McGee like while inconsistent,
you see the speed, you see the physicalsalty.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Like I'm shy, they run to the ball.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
And that's what I said. We had a mini youth
movement last night. Like I've seen the Trey Ames making plays.
I've seen guys seen it making plays. I've seen Luke
making plays. So a lot of the younger guys that
I seen them put in a shuffle maplace.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
So I want to ask Lugan when I asked you,
which is Okay, you're three and five and this is
one of the older teams in the NFL, and you
have some young guys who you want to get more run.
At the same time, you don't necessarily just want to
give up on the season. So where is that balance between, All, Right,
these guys need the experience, they need.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
The reps, but also we're still trying to win. A
tough question.

Speaker 9 (46:46):
It's a great question. I don't think there's a great answer.
I think it's like I think kind of what they
did yesterday where it's like you found ways to get
Frankie Bobby Jordan on the field altogether in different roles
and kind of seeing what works, Like I think Tyler
Owens is getting him out there versus Travis kelce I
think you did some good stuff because like one of
the things, he reportedly has a hard time with his
large play volume. So it's like, hey man, when you're

(47:07):
in you're gonna play man coverage versus Travis kelcey are
gonna play cover three. So like packages simplicity giving them
more opportunities to grow in the defense. I think it's
a big part. Like we've seen it with Ben Senden offensively,
like he's he's blocked more. Yeah, he's been on the
field more. And people say, well, is there really any
value there? Heck, yes, there's value because you're getting a
feel for the speed of the game. You're gonna feel
for fronts, how people are gonna blitz you, how they're

(47:28):
going to attack certain runs. It elevates your football IQ.
So I do think the more they can find ways
to get like package guys. Fred I don't know if
that's right. Package guys in there. No, it's gonna be
I want to.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Package that because we've seen being sent it in a package.
He comes out the first play in this run play,
he misses the block, totally misses the block. Get beal,
blew up in the backfield, comes back the nixt play,
kissing the ball.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Twenty of us get the first AWP. They go your
trial and ever right there.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
I can't get I always tell people this, you can't
get better sitting on the sideline. I know people think,
you know, No, No, you don't get better sitting on
the sideline. You get better actually playing. And it's a
thin line if you're still going for it. Yeah, with
a veteran Layton team, but you know in the back
of your head, at one point the youth has to play.

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That's a hard decision for a coach to make, and.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Especially because they flash enough like Georgia.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, no, I think Jean McGee flash.

Speaker 9 (48:20):
He's deserving of that opportunity, and so I think it's
a good job. Kudos to the coaching staff for kind
of finding ways to keep keep the veteran leadership on
the field while finding a way to get him online.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
What are you seeing from I just want to call him,
I guess pac Man because he hungry Jacob Martin, I
was like, where is Jackie Marty Eaton? Hey, Jakie Marny Eaton, Like,
I'm sorry, a chance he get like because he supposed
to have had two sects last week they took a
sack away from him. What are you seeing with Jacib Moore?
Because I seen him physically beat tackles to death in

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this game.

Speaker 9 (48:53):
Yeah, So I think he's a guy that I've always
enjoyed watching. I actually played with him in Houston.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
For a year.

Speaker 9 (48:58):
When So he's a guy that really like is deliberate
about his approach to pass rush, Like he likes talking
past rush, he likes thinking pass rush. I think that
shows up in these moments right, Like he's got that
great rhythm on his cross job. He's got that good
pad level on the power right. And so when you've
got like a couple of things you can go to,
you like a like a nice little cachet of moves

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as a pass rusher and you're good at them, I
think it makes you difficult to deal with. And I
think he's done a great job kind of in that
Spinner role that stand up player that's kind of working combinations.
He's lining up as a three technique, he's lining up
as a five technique or a nine. Like he's deserving
of that opportunity, and it's it's somewhat disappointing like his
success because imagine him and Dorance playing together.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, like how effective this pass rush could be.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
So it I'm really excited for him personally, but I
do I just think about like the what if scenario
of if they were a little bit healthier on the
defensive front.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
We're gonna get to our voicemails, our emails, We're gonna
have cutwater confessions, a confession.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I bet you I need to take the truth about something.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Well, there's that time it's like I see myself.

Speaker 10 (50:07):
Letter.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Look it rolls in, sits down, talks smooth.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, he just don't give a damn.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
So look at Anna on the floor. We should have annakam.
I've been lobbing for this for a long time. We
just follow Anna and she's like, no, I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Well, he does have a mouski and sweater.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
To make gosh.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
Yeah, Fred always has something to say about my fleeces.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
You've got the biggest collection of fleeces I have ever
seen in my life.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
It has to do with it has to do with
my probably my origins.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
That's true.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
I went home for the weekend and I felt I
felt normal again because I had all my my fleeces,
and I was like, everybody else is also wearing their fleeces.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
It's just it's just if you had to say, what
number of fleeces do you own, given about all collectively?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Is it like forty plus fleeces?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Thirty seven?

Speaker 7 (51:01):
I do like I like a sweater. I've worn my
fair share of very heavy sweaters here. And I do
get some books I feel like because they're just.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Like, oh no, I've looked at you, like, who grandmama
sweater did you steal?

Speaker 7 (51:14):
I've been told I look like I'm about to, like,
you know, go to my opera Ski party.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Ski.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
It's a little it's a little too west and I've
had to catch myself all right, but fleeces. Sorry, I
went on a tangent there.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Like at least five round of apparol spitzes for the girls.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
It's been a long dance, all right. Voicemail email time.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
Yes, voicemail time, Okay, let's hit our first voicemail from
our correspondent.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Correspondent Traveling Jay traveling.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
A couple other ones. We heard from one Ita.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Traveling go to the game.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
That's good question, did he are you asking?

Speaker 7 (51:59):
No, I'm asking right, and he went to the rally
captain's fan round.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
All right, all right, Traveling.

Speaker 11 (52:09):
Smooth jinks And hey, it's you boy, Traveling Jay. Just
got home from the ball game. It's about twelve am.
Had a really good weekend.

Speaker 12 (52:22):
The ball game was a you know it was. What
it was was a tail of two halves missed and
miss miss tackles. The club by die Better heard us
a little bit, but we came down, got a couple
more turnovers, so I thought we were looking pretty good
going in the half. Seven to seven. Terry geez man,

(52:44):
glad to have him back. He made some halacious catches tonight, man,
if we missed him, and uh, I think Luke is
just every week getting better and better and better. That
kid is going to be a superstar. I really believe
that we need to the second half. Obviously, the wheels

(53:05):
came off. I'm not exactly sure. You know, they make corrections.
From what I was seeing, they were just doing a
little bit of different things, catching us across the middle
of a bunch of times brought blowing plays though I
mean it seemed like they had them and then Kelsey
or someone would slip underneath or around the corner or whatever.

(53:27):
Backyard football basically what it was. And you know, I
guess because they've been playing so long together. I'm not
one un presential on that, but I would think, so
you know, you kind of know what the other guy's
thinking after a while, so smooth you can obviously speak
on that better than I can't. I do want to
give a shout out. I was going around promoting the
Getting Out podcast to everyone. Most people had heard of it,

(53:50):
which is great. I kept pushing, letting them know that
you were the best one podcasts to listen to you
every week and that you're a People Choice Award nominee.
And I want to give a shout out to my
Boddy Lewis that I met from Austin, Texas. And by
the way, no jinks, she doesn't know you. Just kidding, Uh,

(54:12):
but he is a hook I think and horns up
or whatever you guys do, and uh, yeah, he's a
great guy. And I turned him onto the podcast. He'll
be listening, So Lewis it's boy Traveling Jay like I
told you, and uh, Grandma. The only thing I'll say now,
Fred is Grandma needs to put some stuff in the micaway.

Speaker 7 (54:37):
Thanks Traveling J for colling so great and Traveling J.
Also saw be Mitch at the rally, which I said earlier.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Okay, this I always love. It.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Just was a hard weekend for old Fred smooth as
you know the n CPI State bulld Dogs.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yeah, it was tough for me too for like three
and a half.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
And it was my boy brand new walking away through it.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
It's just, you know, it's one of these things where
I'm waiting on the collapse to happen, and it happens.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Oh, Lauris, they're bought ounch.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
It just scars it to gets you listen. It's gars
me man Traveling Jay. Thank you. That was a pick
me up.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Now ask we love here for Traveling J.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Also, you could call us seven O three seven two
six seven four one nine or email us Washington get
loud at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
That is Washington get loud at gmail dot com.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
All right, this next one's from John.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Okay, Hey, gang, this is John from Occaquan, Virginia, feeling
oddly okay with how the game went yesterday. I don't know,
it just feels like the pieces are falling together. I'm
excited to see everybody back on the field. At the
same time, had a possibly a dumb question from a
guy who never really played competitive sports in his life.

(55:55):
I feel like I've been noticing on social media the
team captainnnouncements week to week and just seeing who gets
picked and all the different guys game the game. I'm
curious how much do those team captain picks way on
the players, either during the week or on game day.
And uh, but this question is smooth. Who are some

(56:17):
of the best or worst team captains you've played with?
And well, let me go, guys, raise some Hell, let's go.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
The team captains don't weigh on us at all.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
We don't care.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
All you're doing is walking out before the game. You
get like three seconds of love. Uh and you called
you called a coin toss.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah, like that That's.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Basically what the team captains do.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
But yeah, I've had some bad team capt I was
gonna ask you've seen someone you're like not a team captain?

Speaker 3 (56:48):
First of all, when you're on a bad team, they
gotta pick bad team captains.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
I guess that's true.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
It's part of it. And I won't do any name
because they're just too to what it was. But my
first couple of years, all the captains was bad, just
was bad. It was one of them things where it
was the blind leading the blind.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, and why are you.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
The captain, Jeff Jorge, because I'm the quarterback? Like sometimes
you get captainshiped by position. The quarterback always gets to
get like are you.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Gonna get in by a position? Age?

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Right, them gonna be the two determining factors. Rookie, you
ain't never gonna be captain. You ain't got to worry
about that. You ain't never gonna walk out there for it. Like,
so it's just certain things. It's an age thing. It's
like going to church and you know, the first two
rolls for the older men in.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
LA it's the elder role.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
You know, not to sit there if you're twenty years old,
like that ain't your seat. That's for older people. And
that's how the captains are kind of delivered to you, like,
all right, since we just traded for old boy and
he thirty three, he the captain like this, he ain't
been here but right, he don't even know his teammates,
but he the captain. So it's really no logic to

(58:05):
the captain. I like how DQ dwes because usually people
pick the captains for the season. Yeah, it ain't no rotation.
DQ does a rotation of captains to get everybody out
to lead, all right, So I like that approach to it.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
But it's no, there's nothing to it.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Like it ain't like Fred smooth feel good about I
was captains of the Cowboys game, right, That ain't my
fun memory of the Cowboys, right. So it's it ain't
a notch on your bell. It just showed that it's
something leadership in.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
You got one email I'm gonna read here, and we
got cut water Confessions. This is Kevin Byers. Yeah, Ken,
appreciate you writing.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
I've been watching you feelas for a while, laughing from
my soul the whole time. Hey Jinx, don't let Fred
talk about your pasty legs, bro, thank you, Hey, hey
Lord for blue j Fred, I have a qui les
all the way from Louiville, Kentucky. If coach went left
the box and came down to the sideline. Do y'all
think that could have a positive effect on the defense.

(59:09):
I'm proud of y'all. Kevin, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
I love it when my coordinator is on the sideline
one because I get to talk to him, okay, and
I get to tell him what I feel, what happened.
That's why I love Greg Williams, because Greg Williams not
only gonna talk back to you, he wants your insight.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
And I was full of insight.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
So whatever came out of my mouth, Greg would weaponize
it and use it. I love that face to face.
I don't like to get on that phone. The phone
does that feel weird? On a football field, the phone
usually mean you were in trouble, right, Like when you
get on the phone, it's like, hello, what.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
You like if you was dying here? You know, like
it's this. I would rather hell, I read to feel
your energy.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Yeah, I would really talk to you face to face
and I would read a problem solve right now. Yeah,
It's like there's nothing like coming off the field and
I get to talk to you right now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
What did they just do on third down?

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, they went five deep, I mean fire wide. They
did this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
They motions get like, so now the conversation becomes very organic.
I would always rather have my defensive coordinator on the
sideline with me seeing it on an eye level. But
I understand why wins there because most people want to
see it like a chess game, almost like film. Yeah,
they want to see it from that angle, and they
process it quicker that way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Some people they want to be in the fight, like
they want to be in the fight with you, and
they gonna see it from field level, and that's a
whole different thing. I'm more of the field level coaches.
Give me the field level coaches, like the one thing
I love about because I admire a lot of coaches.
It's like Tumbling. When Tumbling was my defensive coordinator, Mike
Tumbling at Minnesota field level coach. He wanted to be

(01:00:54):
down there. He wanted to talk to us so he
can spit in our face the whole time. Like it's
it's the most no connection, yeah, that you need and
you can only get that with your defensive coordinator, our
offensive coordinator on the field.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Which you ever seen the old video this worth looking
up of Joe Montana on the field and there's a
phone on the field and he's like, is this work?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
And so he dials out and calls his wife from
the sideline. He's like, Hey, what are you doing. He's like, Joe,
are you in the game. He's like, yeah, I love you.
Got to go play listen crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
That's something I would have did, Like if I had
that phone, I'll just throw a calling people.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
You start praying, calling what you're doing?

Speaker 7 (01:01:30):
You're refrigerator running?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
I have one more voice, okay, and then we'll be
ready to go into our confessions.

Speaker 10 (01:01:38):
Hello, get loud crue. This is Wannia Heines from Houston.

Speaker 12 (01:01:43):
Oh.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
I am so excited about this opportunity to be a
correspondent for the Commanders, and I wanted to submit my name.
I know it's not relevant for this season, but for Houston, Texas.
I live in Houston. I am a die hard Commanders fans,
an avid fan, and have been a long time. But

(01:02:06):
I wanted to also Part two of my call is
because I also wanted to talk about one of my
I guess this is my Cutwater confessions. I was dating
a guy that was from Philly, went to the Eagles
in Redskins game back in the day. Actually, this is

(01:02:26):
when you were playing smooth, and as I mentioned, I'm
a diehard fan. So I was in Philly talking smack
like everybody was looking at me. Everybody kept turning around,
and he started grabbing my hand, like bay Bay, Okay, no,
we don't do that here. I was like, and then
we had the nerve to win the game. I was

(01:02:46):
talking mad trash. He grabbed my hand, he was like, babe,
we gotta go. And he quickly escorted me from that
stadium with my jersey on and my Skins gear. And
so that was my cut water confession of my experience
at the Philadelphia Eagles stadium. I didn't realize that they

(01:03:08):
were one of the first stadiums to get a jail inside,
and my smack talk could have landed me not only
in a different situation, but I'm glad I had someone
that was looking out for me at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
You know what, confession.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I am glad that you had one of those bleacher
creatures with you because if you did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Oh, he protected her.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Yes, even though he was an Eagles fan, the love
he had for her when he said let's go like this,
when you know he cared, He's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Like, I gotta keep you safe. Lady, get you out
of here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
That means I can't protake you from my own right,
I can't protect you from.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
I'm one of these guys. Oh exactly, I know exactly
what's gonna go down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
You have to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
You got like you can't disrespect the disrespectful. They are
disrespectful and if you go in there trying to disrespect them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
She talked about the jail in the stadium. It ain't
the jail house visit. It's the hospital visit that you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Need to worry about with them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
So, hey, she's from Texas. Yeah, I know she's courageous,
that's right. I know she doesn't really care, all right,
it's Texas over everything. The Philadelphia is a dangerous place.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
They can't their fans, That's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
It's a dangerous place. They not bleach your creatures for
no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
So that's one of the better cut water confessions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
That's a good one. We need a Texas correspondent.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
We gotta have it. We gotta have it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I would love to have a Oakland correspondent to tell
me how the black.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Hole used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Well, oh oh, back in the day, like the Raiders,
the Raiders, Black hole. I was like, you want a
scientist from Oakland?

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
I was like, no, no, no Raiders, old legit Raiders
correspondent to tell us true.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Man, how was it those old videos? Are the Raiders
with maddening those cats?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Oh my god, that's what I would love to go to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
I think them the only two fan bases that can
compare to overseas soccer, because you know, like worldly soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Is a very aggressient fan base.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
The Oakland Raiders versus the Philadelphia Eagles in the neutral site, how.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Many black eyes, how many how many wrests?

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
How much blood feel.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Fan bases? Baby?

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Okay, we had one cut water confession.

Speaker 7 (01:05:34):
Do you either of you have a quick cut Water confession?

Speaker 11 (01:05:37):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
What was the what was the tidle of defession? Is
NFC East?

Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
I had it was going to be an n f
C East cut Water confession. Thoughts. I think my Cutwater
confession was I think I'm gonna miss watching cam Scatter
this season.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
That's you know what, you know, how them wrestlers get
hurt and then the next wrestling mess they rolled out
in like a hospital bed and then they jump out
this Cattibu Scattaboo has this wrestling mistique.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Yeah he has this macho Randy have energy, permitted the
whole team, and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
You gotta like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
No matter what your fan base is, you appreciate football.
You have to love someone like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
You gotta like and you can appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Would still be a fan of this, just like people
like Jane Daniels, but they're not a fan of the
rushing Commanders team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I can be a fan of camscatible get well. So yeah,
the NFL needs you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
No question, All right, cut water. Confession you have one
before we go?

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Yes, oh, here we go. Life has been one big blur.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Confession.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Okay, what about you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Oh that's it. That's a confession. Come see us. We're
gonna be a Verizon on Monday in Dulles. I've got
all the information right here. Doug Williams is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Gary Clark, super Bowl winning Santana Moss didn't win nothing
with me, Shots Franks then win nothing with me, but
with great people, Yes, great people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Eleven am at Verizon in Dulles.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
That's November the third, twenty two hundred dollars retail Plaza
Sweet one seventy two in Dulles.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
That's two zero, one sixty six. Come and see us. Yes,
that's going to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
For this edition of the Get Loud Podcasts presented by
Sea Geek for our entire incredible career career career.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Yeah, have a great week. See you next time.

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Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
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