London Fletcher and Santana Moss are joined by former teammate and fellow analyst Fred Smoot. The crew gets you ready for the Commanders Week 1 matchup against the New York Giants. Then, they talk about Santana’s legendary career in the burgundy and gold ahead of his Ring of Fame induction. Plus, wide receiver Terry McLaurin joins the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back into the Players Club.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We are your host, London Fletcher, sant Tana Marson. We
got a special guest, I don't know about special, very
special special.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We got Fred Smooth filling in for Sean Springs.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Always all right, Santanna and Fred, why don't you tell
the folks what we got for him on this this
week's episode.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, you know, London, I'm gonna be getting everybody ready
for this week's ones match up against the g Men,
and I'm gonna be talking about some of the receivers
I'm looking forward to seeing.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Oh most definitely, and I'm gonna talk about some of
the defensive backs and talk about why I'm better filling
in than Shun Spring.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
And then later I got my guy mister Boo himself,
Scary Terry mask On or Mascofs.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, we even got a segment where we're gonna talk
about mister A to the nines, greatest moments in the Burket.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Then go he wants to immortalize this week to talk to.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But before we dive into all that in the Commander's Football,
let's get to know the one only Fred Smooth came
off of the Soth.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, we got the co host to get Loud, none
other than mister get Loud himself, mister Fred Smooth Fred
with this segment. Man, since we got you on here, man,
we're gonna ask you some questions about yourself now, right,
we need we need to.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Know a little something about you.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So my first question, what was your made moment like
I made it moment in the league? What was the
first time you felt like I'm here, that like I belonged. Yeah,
like you belonged.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I'd probably say it was my first game that I
ever played, To tell you the truth, I played against
the San Diego Charges. They was in San Diego, and
I remember walking out on the field. You know, Ladani
and thomasin was our classmates, so Ladanien was on the
other side. I remember seeing Doug Flutie for the first time.
You know, Flutiy had this mistique around here that I
can make anything happen. I remember seeing rodn the harrison.
(01:50):
But then Junior say I was out there and he
was playing defense so hard that I thought it was
two of them. It was too Junior sayouts. But we
go into the game. I get my first career interception.
I had first game. You got picked the first game,
I got a pick. First game, I had nine tacos.
I got a fumer recovery in the forced fum. But
I was defensive player of the week. So I felt
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like then, like I could play with these guys.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Rookie, the game you won up, you went up the
first game.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
In the back of my head, I like what left
like whet to The game was going.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So fast, and I don't know if y'all remember if
they was playing on the San Diego Padres for you
the time, remember like I had scraped and I was
scratched up out of the game, but I remember taking
a shower and sitting down and I was like it
was like a lot of weight off my shoulder cause
I was like, man, I can actually play with these guys.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And that's when my companies even grew even more. Okay,
it was one of my favorite spots to play into
this I ran a pump.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I ran my second punt return back and and in
the second week of running one back the week prior,
and so every time I went there, we went there.
In the playoffs, we beat Ladani and them him and
Drew Brees in the first round, and I had one
hundred yards on gym had a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
So I always showed up in that statement.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Like those baseball stadium like the Beau It was just
like I definitely didn't like San Diego's. That would just
felt just real big.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
It was wild.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It was why what's up? He played in the NFC.
He obviously played in the NFC, uh North North as well?
What's your who's your favorite police to go against?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Even I know we got the Cowboys rivalry, we got
the Eagles rivalry. But my sunshine game, like like like tennis,
every time he played in Sanego some magical happy mine
was against Green Bay.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Like even when we was here.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
You remember we played on with Greg Williams interception like
I picked off Brett Farr more than any quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Get bell thrown on you trying to jump in the stand.
I remember kicked one back and ran it back and
limbo league. I'm just going to touch on health and
they poured.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
This is what they didn't realize when they were pulling,
pushing me out the stands, pouring the Milwaukee I.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Mean, I was, you know, having fun. Man.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's just something about Green Bay. You can look at
my whole career. I have never had a bad game again.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
To get far five, you got five picks.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I got five picks out far Driver.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I didn't play Donal Driver, who is from Mississippi, so
I kind of took that very personal.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I think I may be in my whole career gave
up to two catches against Donal Driver. It's games that
I have taken him completely out the game. So it's
always something about Green Bay and I don't care if
I play them here there, I'm gonna have a good game.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So I was gonna ask you a question about, you know,
what's your favorite, you know, career game.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
It was it one of them games I would say this.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
We always had battles with Seattle, Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
It was some about them and Mike Honggreen and that offense.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
And I remember we played in then FedEx Field and
it was fourth quarter, forty five seconds left.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
They trying to drive, They trying to get him field
goal range.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
We up to and they throw an out route to
Daryl Jackson and yeah, DJ and I toe tapped and
I catched the ball on the sideline and I remember
catching that ball laying out like a receiver. I hit
the ground, I got up, and I just ran all
the way to the locker room. Game the game was over,
So that one felt good because I can really take
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on the city of d C.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
We don't see none of it. We don't see none
of these hollow man they got.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's like this happened. The Center has been a siding.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But I have yet He's giving us all these interception highlights.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I've yet to see any of the.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
If it's true, it's true, man, I'm telling you like this,
the proof center pudding.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
The good thing about it, I know Maddie.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
She will find these clips and she will show y'
all these clips.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I'm not man, and all we see is some grandy
video for you. I don't know if any of them
are picks. Yeah, your highlight was a tackle, would know
it wasn't. That was a better tackling than people gave
me credit for. But these hands sponsored by Pampers.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
If you dropping a baby out of a burning building,
you want me to catch You want me to catch
the baby.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So what I'm also getting if you had going against
Brett Farr and Donald Driver.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Look at him, he gonna find.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I'm the career fixture.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
You got twenty one. I got two com back because
of pennity.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So and half half the exception. You got what you
never played against.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I played against the Hall of Famer. That's what you're saying.
If I never played against the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know I picked sixty two.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I'm sure you played twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I got a pick six. But damn they have a
quarterback that's played in my.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You had played with a lot of tea.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
What was it like playing with a Tata bluefoot akas
praise and myself.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Just totally you know what, different guys but the same guys.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
All.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Y'all had this this pre practice regiment where y'all are loaners.
At this point, one of y'all in the hot tub,
tanner on the table getting his handscreen worked on bluefoot,
chewing his tongue. He got his pre like practice, and
y'all was very y'all was every tunnel vision.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Give y'all all, that is a group, very tune of vision.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
But when the game started, y'all more now it's more
about team with y'all. But independently, y'all kind of worked
like independent contractors. When it comes before practice and after practice.
So I give y'all y'all love for preparation. Y'all prehab
so you ain't have to rehab. Y'all did a lot
of stuff that gave y'all longevity. So I give y'all
y'all propers over that y'all took care of your body.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
I will say, I don't know how you did it. Brother.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You would be there to the clock all mantis. We
almost late you and there cracking on somebody.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I used to be leaving the dough and I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Hearing you and the left I would be hitting the
outside doing you still back there left.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm like this, dude, don't stop this. My want people
got on. He ain't got a he got a thigh
path in his past, and he ain't there.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Joking on somebody like man, I'm just gonna go to practice,
however I come.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I'm coming because I actually love practice. You know some
people drinking it. I actually love practice. Ain't nowhere what
that's better? Could we be doing it this time? It's
not a better job, I said. I appreciated my job
to the fo. That's why I said.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I always was one of those guys to try to
make sure I held on to it. I was big
as saying, look, this is what I've always wanted to do.
So therefore I'm not gonna let you you or you
or you take it from me. I'm not gonna let
myself going.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Like a lot of time, it's the players that get
in their own way because not the other players.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And that was one of my reasons of kind of
embracing what went on with me in New York, because
I found out that you have to take care of.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Your body if you want to have a long.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Career, especially when they hit the high expectations for you.
It's the first round and then they said he's doing it.
But then he ain't doing this, you get hurt.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh man, I remember I remember Fred talking about you
haven't seen the gazelle stretch scratching.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
You said that she to go hunt.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Actually, my scratching was when I was walking around, like yeah,
when we like when everybody else was scratching, I'm walking around,
So I loosened up in the hot tub like I
just always hit the hotel for prectice in the steam room.
When I go in the steam room in the hot tub,
I'm loose like I'm ready to go now. So now
my job is I'm trying to get everybody up for practice.
Let's go pray. I'm talking trash to him, lit trash
(09:45):
to him. Make a little noise. Now let's go.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
All right man speaking of let's go. Yeah, we got
to get to this game against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Football season here, Man, here'll.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Still get jitry at this time he year.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Here's here's what I'll say. So I'll start doing my
prep for calling the game this week. And it was different,
like I was like locked in, like putting, putting in
the hours and getting ready for like it's here. It's
a different, different mentality. I don't know that it felt like.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That for me. Like, man, the regular season is here now.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Now my heart skipper beat.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Sometime when it's this time, come the air, start to
cool down, football really start to be back, start to
see a little high school, starting to see a little college,
and now you know the pros is back. But like
going into this year compared to twenty years of us playing,
I don't think the fan base has been this excited
and looking for to a season a long time, probably
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since Darryl Green in the ninety one team or.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Something like this. So this is a whole nother level
for this fan base. Now we will say this too.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Last year, even though we hadn't played a game yet,
it felt different.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Also, it felt different.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It felt different because one, we just wanted to see
what having a quarterback, you know what I mean, like,
because you saw flashes.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
We ain't seen the whole package.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
We just heard things and that that was being done
in practice. We saw a couple of preseason you know,
glimpses of what he could be and you're like, man,
I see that ball, Yeah, I know, I.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Know he can get it on you. So we wanted
to see it live.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So I had higher expectations, but at the same time
I was trying I was being optimistic last year, but
at the same time I had an expectation of that
it should look different. Then now you fast forward to
this year, it's my my expectation has kind of just
you know, it's flat lined because I know what we
can do.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
The flow is here now I want them to know
that it just doesn't stop there.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So now I'm just kind of now I'm back to
that whole point of now, like London said, like I'm
almost jittering as if I'm in I'm in the game.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
With him. We got a lot of eyes on us.
So what you're gonna do? You know what I'm saying?
What we gonna do it?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
But we got a familiar opponent.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You know y'all trying to watch the game.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You can catch it on Fox, but I prefer you
to tune in to the radio. Bro's big big one
with Brown, Weinstein at Logan, Paulson and myself.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think I take, I think.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
To the top radio crew in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I know I'd like to give a Lennon flat but
when he get on the mic, him and Brown they
make magic.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
And you ain't gonna get no smarter nerd.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Than Logan posting on the sideline bitsins sideline interviews. Hey,
I give it a y'all. Problems were number one right now?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, man, So we gotta we got to start off
in the trenches.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think when you talk about this game, man, battle
of the trenches.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
We got a new little defensive line.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
We know that the Giants they got four first rounders
on a yeah, on their defensive front. What do y'all
want to see from our defensive group in this first
out another season.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I'm gonna jump in.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I'm gonna go fursther you the defensive extorting there, you
know what I mean for me defensively, man, I think
with all the hoop lob about us not stopping the
run last year, we still did.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
So many great things.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And that's the credit to the coaching staff is having
those guys from one fly around with the hair on
fire the way they did. But for two is even
though we had games where we gave up, we gave
a lot of when we got down with our back
against that wall, we found a way to get that
ball back or just make.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Make you kick a field goal.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So with that being said, coming into this year and
knowing that we kind of rearrange some things up front,
I'm looking to see how much does you know, having
those new guys in the middle, what that what effect
does it bring to our secondary? Last year we was
kind of flaky secondary wise. You know, we had bright spots.
We had bright spots, that's safety, both of them. We
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had a bright spot at Cone at times, you know,
with a young guy in Santa Still.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
But now I feel like our corner, our.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Corner safety, all of them together could be very special
and not only being special by themselves, including that D line.
If they they kind of pressure. I think they're gonna
bring and kind of clog.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Up some things that I think they gonna do.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
If we can stop the run and still make guys
and get guys to throwing the ball you know, at
at at a at a rapid pace, meaning that they
don't really want.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
To do it, but they have to do it.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, I can see the secondary being being one of
the top secondaries talked about.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
So that's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'm looking to see if we're gonna see that come
week one, because I think this opponent here could be
that appoint that we can really see who we are bingo,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
They have a weapon on our side.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
They have a quarterback who can throw it, got running back,
and they have a few other guys that can you know,
catch the ball. So I really want to see about
defense going to have what it takes to kind of say,
let's put the pass in the past with somebody different
this year.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
All right, this is second year coach wits defense.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So now that's when coordinators really not a defense kind
of looks as an image of them and we got
kind of pushed around in NFC Championship games so we
went and got bigger in the interior. We also got
bigger on the edges. When you bring in a Javan
Kenlaud now with him paying just Newton and all them
having their rotation in the middle, I'm excited to see
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what's gonna be the past Russian rotations. Ken Law has
the ability to play defensive end also, But we got
big at the defensive end. You bring in the Dietrich Wise,
you understand what you got there, Like we got some
dudes there. You add Frankie Louvu to the rush, you
add Bonon Miller to the rush. Now we're going to
win on rundowns. So we earned the right to rush
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the passer. That's the key. That's how this defensive bill
can we make you go third and long. And if
we can go third and along with the defensive backs
we got on this team, now they organically can get
themself into the top ten when it comes to a defense,
not because they got the best players, because they are
more to some of their parts. We got a interior
pass rotation, We're gonna have an edge pass rotation, and
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we're gonna make you say where's Waldough.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You're gonna have to say, we're gonna try to.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Find bon Miller to try to push the line covers
to him. Well, guess what, Frankie Louvu coming down here.
The Tasman and Devil will destroy things.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I like the Young and the Yang.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
With that, with Bobby Wagoner sitting in the middle, just
waiting on everything to be funnel to him by these
bigger guys, yes, I think that's gonna give us a
chance to kind of dictate turns on off. I mean
on defense, And this is the key to me on defense.
Me and London then didn't really get to play with
a lot of leads.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
No defense.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Playing with the lead is a totally defense. It's playing
tight at the corner position. If I'm playing and the
game is tight, I'm not taking chances.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I'm gonna play, keep everything in front of you.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I'm just gonna play.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I hope they make a mistake, just something.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
But if we got the lead, you gonna see conners
get a little low. You're gonna see pass rushes up,
not think about the run, and it's gonna unlock something
that they couldn't do last year because everything was just
right there. The game was so tight. So I want
to see how they look organically because of the offense
and because of the live.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think this defense, probably they might be going to
this game feeling a little bit overlooked, maybe even underrated.
From the standpoint you think of what the talk has
been going into this.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Game been all to talk about the Giants defense.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, obviously you're gonna talk about our offense because of
what JD five and the weapons that's been added.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The offensive line changes.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
But are D and then the Giants they're talking about
their office because you got Russell Wilson at the quarterback
position now. But this defensive line, this defense in general,
especially as I got to watch them in the one
kind of the preseason game that kin Low and the
Rod played together and you saw you know, Wis and
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all those guys, I'm like, man, this group could be
very formidable. Especially you mentioned stopping the run. They talked
about being able to play a more attacking style from
the defensive line, getting up field, be creating, having being
disruptive in the backfield.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
That's a lot of linebackers to run and hear clean.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Play down here for a lot more and you winning
on first and second down. Now you're getting into thirty
five pluses. You mentioned Miller, you mentioned Javon Kurst, I mean,
you mentioned ked Long, you mentioned Frankie Louvo Louis.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I think our edge rushers are gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Think our pastor is gonna be fine, and all the
different pieces we can play. On the second day, we
got guys to play inside, got to play outside.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I can't wait to see these guys.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Really, I think they gonna I think they're gonna take
top building in this ball game. As crazy as that.
When you think about the office that we have, I
think today we have spectations. They're gonna set the tone
for this ball.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean especially too, man, when you just talk about
some of the things that has been transpired throughout the
whole training camp. I mean what we've been hearing about,
the throwing people around me, and you know, at at
one point, I'm here to tell you guys, I feel
like the first few days of training camp, the defense
always we always a step ahead, but I never saw
it be sustainable throughout the whole camp. Yeah, And I
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feel like watching from my little naked eye at times
when I'm out there and then just reading what's been
going on in the days. I wasn't it's always been
the defense got got got you know, got the offense
to the defense had the offense.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
You know, a number of the day the defense did this,
the defense did that.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So when you have that kind of you know, roaming
around the building, it's also gonna be like one of
them competition levels, like who gonna who gonna set the tone?
And not to me, that's that's that's a fun team,
that's a healthy that's a team, that's a that's something that.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I would love to be a part of, just knowing
that you can even do it.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
We're gonna right, but offensively, we want to be the
one we don't do we don't care anything, but we're
gonna do it together.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Listen, do the Giants.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
We're gonna lean on a d line of first rounders
and we're gonna they're gonna have to be the end
all be all. So we're gonna be judged by these
four first rounders and if they can't change games, we
ain't gonna win no games. And that's how the Giants
feel to me in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
They feel like if we're gonna win trench warfare, it's
gonna be on the side of the defense, not on
the side of the offense when I'm sorry, I hate
to tail in.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
We got a group over there called the Divine Swine.
They want to play.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, up, I'm glad you mentioned the defensive Live you
mentioned the Giants for first rounders. As I was prepping,
I'm looking at this, I'm like, Okay, these are the
ways I think we should attack them. Tyner, you offensive guy,
I'm gonna start with you. How do you feel we
should attack this Giants defense and not allowed them to
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kind of tee off on you know?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know, and I've been saying this for so long,
and I'm pretty sure y'all probably being that we've been
doing these shows for a while now, it's.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Kind of odd to me to say it, but it's real.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And as a receiver, you know, I've played on so
many different teams that we ran the ball first. Yeah,
you know, and you might scratch your head, like, yeah,
but when you got a guy like tan On, you got.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
A guy like this.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
The offenses that I've been on that went to the postseason,
that that had success, that that saw the second round,
or or just had a consistency about themselves, was able
to establish the run and I feel that when you
have a team that is predicated on saying we're going
to get out of your quarterback, we got to run
at them. Yeah, we got to find a way to formation.
(21:08):
I want to see us get in formations where we
keep them guessing, not knowing. If we finna have somebody
cracking them, then run the ball at them or getting
them saying formations not knowing. Okay, here goes that formation again.
It might be coming with this run here. Then change
it up and go to the other side. Okay, here
this formation again. Now we're gonna zappa zoom up out
Houston tight. Now we're gonna hit you with the past game.
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We have to be creative. And I know that I'm
saying this because I know Cliff Kingsbury is very creative.
We have to give them looks that are not traditional
run looks, but that are not traditional pass looks, and
switch it up.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
When we in a past look, run the ball at them.
When we in a run look, pass the ball out.
I mean, we have to switch it up.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But at the same time, with all that being said,
first and foremost, I want to see the run game
be efficient.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
I want to see the.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Same things I saw in the preseason with our run game,
with our linemen up front being able to be you know, fast,
fierce and we get today and moving the ball for
it because I think if we can do that to
control the ball game, because we know we can do
with five with the ball in.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
His hands, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So if you can establish a run game out the
gate man, the people can always be on.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
They gonna always be We're gonna always be pushing them backwards.
Ain't nothing worse.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Hey, I don't be on the sideline looking at the.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Tanner shiffling Tanner shifting boy he brought.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Is he is exactly right. If I had the game
planning against these guys. First thing you do to a
pass Russia is run at his keys to if you
ever wanted to stop him from pass Russian on third down.
I've seen how people treated Bruce mill like they was
running him on first down, running the second down, hoping
that third down he just ain't got enough juice. You
got these two guys, I mean, these four guys as
a group, keep your formations tight, do nothing, make a
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pass Russell sick. Then they have a slot wire receiver
sitting here and he got to go past the slot
wire receiver and a tight egg, so keep the four
matres tight.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Second of all Ekler.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I want a lot of Ekler early. I want to
give him a lot of Chris Rodriguez late. He go
to think, this is why I want to do this.
I want to make this group, specially with Dexter Lawrence
go left to right. I want them to have to
play the So I.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Want the screen game. I want to draw game.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I want every time that he gets on the field,
I want him running somewhere that just not sitting in
the middle of his field. Number three, him and be
Oddish has had some battles and people don't like to
give him his props for tighter be Oddish when he
comes to sexy Dexy Lawrence, he ain't doing that dance
on beout, so go one right there.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Now we've got to ask where the other matchups coming from.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Who's gonna be man enough to take on the big
tongsil Like, who's gonna be the man enough? It's Triple
Dog gonna say no, rookie, you gotta get over there
against that name. So you know how passed us is
out London. They see an easy assignment. They gonna try
to get to it is. Ryan Burn's gonna say, nah,
I'm the oldest. You get over there, you take it.
So this's gonna be the question who's gonna be trying
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to take on Tumsle, who's gonna be trying to run
from him? So it's gonna be an offensive coordinator game,
and this is gonna be an offensive line game. It's
gonna be all about them wild boys in the Divine Swine.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, y'all mentioned the run game. The rpo game is
gonna be key. I think that's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
A key where Jaden has the option to either have
the ball off or if the linebacker come up, or
you got windows the number. He doesn't like the numbers,
Hey throw the bubble screen, get get our debo out there.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
On the edge.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
See if the boys want to keep tackling him.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You just had the same enthusiasm in the first quarter
that you had you had in the first quarter. So
that running up sideline, the sideline quick game. You'll take
your shots, but you have to operating a lot of
thirdy mediums or last time, I even say even third
and fours or last Yeah, Otherwise you're gonna those boys,
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they're gonna rush the pass.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
They're gonna pay their ears back.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So that's how you kind of keep them, keep them
off off their game a little bit. Secondary matchup, man,
John's got some receivers. They got the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
He had a hell of work.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They got higher, we got we got secondary. Yeah, yeah,
I got a new secondary. You mentioned Slaton, Ye want Dale.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Robinson justin and to the end, they got some players,
they got some mismatches, they got some guy that can
scratch the field.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
But we also know they're gonna try to force feed it.
The number one.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Let's be honest, Labors is gonna get a bulk of
the balls. They won't think about them. They want to
count of play like we play. They want to get
the lead and then let this defensive line rush.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
That's what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
They want to get an alternative lead and they want
these guys to pass rush.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
They don't want them guys to be run stoppers.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
So yeah, I totally understand they do got weapons out there,
especially when it.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Comes to that there.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Do you anticipate they're being matched up where we're gonna, hey,
this is on you on this guy.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You just we're gonna play right.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Play right.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I think we gonna play left, and we're gonna let
them serve the dishes to us.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Where do you want to put this guy?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
And if it's elite neighbors and they started, especially after
the first quarter, is I'm gonna have a feel of
what you want to do offensive wise with elite neighbors.
If I see you fin the force feed them, I'm
gonna have this safety to kind of hang out over there.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
I'm gonna force you to throw away.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And we got they got Russ at the quarterback position. Yeah,
Russ gonna take deep shots. You know, no, I could
anticipate the Giants taking at least four deep shots in
this game.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
I think they're gonna take them early.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I think they're gonna take them first quarter to try
to back us off. You know, they got Tracy the
running back. He can run the ball. He's a wide receiver.
They're gonna try to catch, get him catches out the
back field. The one thing about Russ and our defensive
line they're gonna see early is he ain't gonna be
able to throw over them. He can throw between them.
But so I think they're gonna get him on a
lot of boots. I think they're gonna get him on
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some quarterbacks. I think they're gonna get him outside the
pocket to try to say, you know what, you gotta
pass option, get the ball out, let's see what we
can do, and we're gonna try to run on the
short of that.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, I definitely think they're gonna try to move him
around because I think just on his own, he's not
he's not the same rush they used to move around
and make that that last Yeah, so they're gonna try
to say, Okay, well we don't want to sit him
and having being a sitting up, Let's get him on
some boots and waggles and then see how we plan it.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
See if we can get some of the receivers.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
On one on one match on one on one matchups
on shallow crosses or you know, across across the middle
of the field to kind of get that favorable matchup
where they can you know, dink and dump and try
to you know, move the ball down that way.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Bob.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
But like I said before, too, if we get up
and we get up and like you say, and touch
somebody and put our hands on this and show them
the kind of coverage that we can play, it's gonna
be a long day for him because that's gonna give
now us more time up front to get out the rust.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
He don't want to run.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
He ain't the same rush from them back in the
day that can tuck that ball and you know, and
get some with this leg. But like I say too,
I don't never underestimate rush because I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Have a game I saw last year.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But when he got when he got that ball up
in there against our guy and they scored and beat
us off that plate, I was just sitting there, like,
you gotta know, that's the only way they can go.
First of all, go in front of me, but he
going on, he wanted to throw it behind you.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
That's why I love.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Our communication that we had on defense. Once we get
to the fifty yard line, we a lerned shot.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, we're doing it to each other like it's one
thing to know what's coming and have the alerts, but
it's another thing to actually be disciplined and poisoned enough
to go out to actually que the way you need
to execute to get get your job.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Done, no doubt. Well, you know, fellas, we can talk
about that all day.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And this is one of our favorite segments because not
only because I'm the one that's talking about it's talking about.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
A fast Lane. And you know, in the fast Lane.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Presented by Eastern Automotive Group, any car any way for
everyone since nineteen eighty eight, you know, well.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
We got two guys that ran pretty fast in the
fort so.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Years ago they used the sun down the top forty.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Well, well, on this edition of the fast Lane, I
want me talking to you about some of the best
receivers that's going to be in these these matchups against
the Giants and Commanders this weekend. And I usually don't
like to talk about the opponents guys, but I gotta
talk about Elite Neighbors.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
You got to think he's one of the guys. That's
that I have to mention.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
You know, we got on our side, you know, Terry
mcclaurin and also Debo. Uh so, let me get this
thing started. Molique neighbors. Yes problem. Well, look, man, one
of the things about Milite Neighbors man, he's he's shown
the lead. He took the lead by notice last year
and showed the lead that Look, I'm a guy to
be working with you know what I mean, I think, uh,
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one of the things they have going for them and
they pass the game. Although I do like a couple
of other guys they have. He's a guy that's gonna
get I guess you can say.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Of the balls.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Ship he go get, want to get enough to where
he gotta be special. You know, brother, he have ten
catchers or ten attempts. They're gonna give him enough to
somebody to see if one of our guys can't cover him.
And that's one of the things that stand out to
me about which is what he can do. And not
only because he gonna get a both of the you know,
the receptions or the targets he just won. Of those playmakers,
he's a difference maker. He got a body type like
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jamar Che. He's also can run like a Jama.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Che and he's a LS you guys, so you know
those l that's you guys.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
They're no want to be putting out some great receivers
the last few years. Man, So I had to give
him a lot of the credit. Now on our side,
on our side of the ball, a guy that I
don't think needs no introduction or mister scary Terry himself.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
It's great to have Terry back in the room. You know.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
We also had him on this show Somebody Around and
and and hit that interview. Yeah, Terry is a guy man,
you know, Fred says all the time, he just special.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Don't have.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Good everything, not great enough. It ain't two things, it
ain't three things. He just does everything. He's he's a
he's a workman. He's a yeah that puts on his
hard blue, little blue collar and go out there and
go to work.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
I'm happy to have him back, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
One of the things that I couldn't imagine coming into
week one without having them, and being that that that
we do have him.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I just feel like he's he ignites that room.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And he's happy.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yeah, he's he's happy. Yeah. So you know, not to
be too long with it on them.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I just feel like Terry is one of those guys
that when you really see his body of work, you
you you you just smile about it because he's a
guy that you can say, I'm anna rest ashore and
one seven gonna come up with a play.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
You cheerful what I'm saying. You cheer for him, you
poor for him.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
He's just one of those guys, and you talked about
that Louisiana. If you think about right now in Louisiana,
Jamar Chase, all right, Jessin Jefferson, Jeffers and elite neighbors
Brian Thomas Junior, Ceedee Lamb all from within twenty five
miles of each other.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
And then not the add guys like like what they
I don't know what's in the water right now, right,
but they understand the art of playing wide receiving you right,
He's very much like Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Maybe it's a twitch here, maybe a little twitter Jamar Chase,
and he can make every play. But this is this
is what makes receivers very dangerous. It ain't the receiver.
It's how many time my quarterback gonna give me an
opportunity to burn you?
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Thank you? Is he gonna force feed me? And this
makes him dangerous.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
So if you're going to be on him, if you're
Trey Amos, if you Mikey Sam Still, if you lead
them more, understand the ball coming.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
The ball comes, and you need to understand that it's
only one way to get.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Him off you. You need to be close to this guy.
You need to be touching this guy. You need to
be disrupting this guy. But like this and Monique belief
neighbors because he got some DV in him. If he
ain't made going into the locker room at halftime, we
got you want to bath.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
I got Debo from my next guy.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
But before I get to talk about de Bo London,
who who you got it?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I like a guy that I like Noel Brown.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
The reason I like Noel Brown I went back and
looking at the the two games that he had against
the Giants. He went for he had eight receptions for
one hundred and sixteen yards. He had two really nice
games against but I think he had a catch maybe
that went for like fifty or somethingences Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
He had to pass in afferience.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So he's a guy that, especially if you look at
our offense, Noel Brown's gonna you're gonna think about stopping
Terry first, You're gonna think about stopping Debo zach Er.
Then you probably you're probably.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Gonna get the uh Noel probably fit yeah at best
for it.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Steady work anyway, get steady working.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
He's gonna have opportunities to go one on one in
the Giants. I know they've they've added to their their
cornerback position. They signed the kid from a New Orleans,
But I still like Noel Brown in this matchup, just
being an underrated guy that's gonna have his opportunities to
make some players in this game.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, you know being with you know that you kind
of highlighted or Brown.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I think that what makes this other guy that I
want to talk about specially not only because he showed
us so much in what he can do right out
to catch with the ball, but he also a guy
that just can like like Fred, they always talk about it.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
He's an alert guy.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
He's a guy when he's on the field you have
to wear number one at where's the alert?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
And when you.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Got a guy, what are you thinking about?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So I do remember something you said.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'm glad you said Fred of the alert guy, finish up,
finish Then I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Come back to.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I can't wait to hit his story because now I'm already.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Talk about now.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
But de Boys is one of those guys. Man, I
think to man, you know you spoke on knowing. I'm
so happy you.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Did because people fail to realize.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Noah came in week two of last year and just
took that spot and just saying that I'm number two.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
I'm gonna be.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Number two, and I'm gonna be out here and I'm
and I'm gonna give you work. I'm gonna give you
work like no other guy my signs can give you.
And when I think about what he brought to the
team last year, just think about what he could bring
to the team this year with now added Debo and
having Terry back.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
So what Debo does.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Is, you know, people talk so much about what Debo
wasn't showing them or how did he look, but they
don't know. We watched the football player, Debo. We don't
care nothing about how you look. All we care about
how the product is once that ball get in his hand,
or how the product is once he gets between those
white lines.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
And he haven't, he haven't.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
He haven't showed me anything but what I've seen when
when I saw him over there and saying fran and
I'm looking forward to just seeing what can he open?
What can he unlock for this offense, because you know,
we talk about getting this offense in the red zone
and who we're gonna use.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
In the short yards game. Why we got to use
the short yardage guy?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We got Deo slipstrip anything and say tackle him or
while we.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Got to use somebody else or change thing up.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
When you can bring d in motion and not here
one of these guys on the back end in a
nod or terror or lane whoever's on the field.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
So I just think Debo special man.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
He brings something to our offense that's going to unlock
a lot of the other guys. But at the same time, too, man,
you know he's gonna be a force to reckon with.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
What you got to say. Last.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I want to say, we're practice one day and we
getting I don't know who we're playing, but Fred, y'all
know he's loud on the field and he's we always
preached out. We're gonna learn some different things about what's
gonna happen. So Fred, one time he like I.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Learned the over raph.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I learned to call him out.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
I learn to run because everybody just.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Off everything.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
That was one of my.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Responosing men on team.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
After Lon get you talking, I'm the ports box. You
had him ready, You had already they gonna run.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
We need to be read, like Fred, say, over prepared
for this one.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
When you had Jy Grad in your ear. Yeah, you
gotta real lie. He coached.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
He wanted us to be vocal, and Sean not his vocal,
so I was the vocal one.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
So yeah, we made it work.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Oh well, I got one question, man, before we get
off of this, this this topic. And you know about
some of the fast lane receivers.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
What a sus?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Speaking of fast lane, what are some of the guys
that you guys considered the fastest receivers y'all face man like,
like who jumps off the chart?
Speaker 5 (37:49):
For you? Fred?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
When I told you coming out of college, I felt
like you was one of the fastest received.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I told you this before I seen a year.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
But Joey Galloway was a Lamborghini like I remember book.
The first time I played against Joy, he was playing
for the Cowboys, and I always watched people in pre
game because I want to see how you move. I
want to see Some people think I'm just walking out
there to walk just to talk trash.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
I'm really peeping everything.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
And I remember looking at Joy Galloway and I was like,
he's built errow dynamic. He built like an airplane, but
but he more built like a running back from the
waist down. And then I saw him run a gold
route and I seen the quarterback let the ball go.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
He didn't even try to run. He ran right up
under the ball. And I was like, they could be
the fastest human being at the siding my life. I'm
like the fast because he's putting no effort into it.
You know. You look guy come out humping like he's
going he's running.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
But him and Randy, yeah, they put no effort into
getting deep on you. They just got to from point
A to point B and they were slowing down. Plus
both of them had the ability to stop. Like I
never was scared of fast receivers because most of them
can't stop. But those two tell him, y'all had the
ability to stop, and that would make got scary. Fast.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Ain't scary fast and quick, it's scary.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well see since I came out running the four to
three like I was used, thank you?
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Fourth three ain't actually was. But my fastest ever was
for I'm in practice.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I was playing for the Bills and we had just
drafted Lee Evans.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Oh yeah, we could run. I didn't. I didn't know this.
I knew he could run.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I knew he could run, and I could run.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, so we're playing cover too, and they put him
in the slot and he runs a gold ball and
I'm running out. The boy running so fast I had
to put on another gear. I got light headed, but
I got to talk to Joke because you know me,
I was like, man, I thought they said you was fast.
He said, Man, I wasn't really running. He's gonna think
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about it.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Lee could rub y'all had two guys like this at
the Bills, but he had a little good on them.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah, Nate Sam could run, but they had a good
on him. So that was what Nate was more.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Nate's gout was more than off season.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Yeah, he was in your regular you know what I'm saying,
just like Lee was. And yeah, they could run. Y'all
had some dude that could run. But I never forgive
Fred Jackson. I tell you that, I never get Fred that.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, when you ain't come up and make.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
That time, man, listen, I was getting blocked in down
switching gears.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Man, it's time. It's trying to celebrate our dude.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Yeah, sat tired.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
He's going into the morning line Rig of Fame.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, this weekend and gets the right before the Giants game. Well, no,
it'll be a halftime, get the induction. You got your
speech ready back.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I'm still watching your film study here. I study London
was London wasn't long. He wasn't long winding like I thought.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
But the one thing I got from London, he thought
he said thank you to everybody.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
And that's the first in my mind because I'm like,
what could you say? But thank you? Yeah? Yeah, make
sure that everybody knows that i'n appreciative of.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You're gonna be the fifty second, uh person, because there's
players and coaches and other people that being induct that
have been inducted into the Ring of Fame.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Only the fourth wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Oh yes, Gary Clark, Hall.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Of Famer, Art Monk, Charlie Taylor, Charlie Taylor Hall of Famer,
and Gary Clark. Right yeah, Gary Clark, Gary Clark, you
spend ten seasons in Washington, set record for single season record.
That's still receiving yards fourteen eighty three, fourth most one
out of the yard receiving games in franchise history. We're
gonna have to, uh, you hater what I say. Listen,
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we talk about town of being the cowboy Keller, but I.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Do have more touchdowns of all the opponents that I
faced in my career to Giant, I thought it was
a I have more touchdowns against the John.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Was it something about New York because you you was
drafted there and playing in at midlife stadium? Was it?
Think it just happened by chance? Because to be honest
with you, man, you know how like we all get
up to go face areas that we played in or teams.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I never wanted to go to New York no more
to play like, I don't know what it is about me,
bro Like I'm one of them cats.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Once I cut the court from something I don't want
to see it, yea.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
And so going into that stadium playing on the other sideline,
it always brought back memories of New York.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
And you know, some of us petty, you know what
I mean, our own way him.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
I think that I think that was a little petty
in me, like kind of not want to be here,
you know what, I an't want me, you know what
I mean, and necessarily didn't want me.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I know how to think you know happened and everything,
But so it had to happen by chance. And then
I also say, too, what better team to do it on?
That the team my brother played on Yeah, and I
had to.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Giants DB's that kind of brought off the best of
you because you got the DB's like they used to
talk a.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
Lot, went the two wheels. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
It's crazy though, in my career in the NFL, rather
my career, I got three games where I had three touchdowns,
you know what I mean, like touchdowns in that one game.
And two of those times I played against the Giants
for two different teams. Once with the Jets, I had
three against them, and then once here I had three
against them in one game. So it's crazy how ironically
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against those guys I when I didn't show it up
every time.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
But I don't think it was the opponent.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I mean far as the guys who was facing me,
because like I told you, the young tennant't even want
to watch film one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I just getting back into the Ring of Fame stuff, man,
And I know if I I may have mentioned this
to you in the past years past, I was like, man,
you need to be on the ring in.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
The Ring of Fame.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
And every time I would I would look up here
at the Ring of fans, see all them names like, damn,
what kind of ain't I ain't up here? You just
don't know when they You never know when they're gonna
do it. And uh, and I know there's some guys
who played before us that probably should have already been
in there as well.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
But I'm like, man, it's got to get him up here.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
We gotta give him up there.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And then when I heard that you were going in,
I was like, man, I felt like I was going
back here. I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
But what's crazy is you knew way before me.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I did a whole we did a whole damn interview
that they actually you know, recorded and showed me later
they and UH, to be honest with you, man, I
didn't know what to feel. You see what I'm saying, because,
like I said that, if you've been around me long enough,
you understand that. Man, if it things that I can't control,
I don't think about them, you know what I mean? Like,
so when people would bring it up, I'm gonna tell
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your truth A funny story. My two homeboys knew my best,
my best the best homeboys knew and I talked to
these guys every other day, and they talked to each
other and they was talking to you. They had been
known for a month, a couple of weeks or something,
and they been telling me the stories about how they
was talking on the phone, like, man, do you not
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want to talk to him? Because it's like you want to,
You're gonna slip up. And he said, they've been laughing
back and forth about it. But the one homeboy that
got close to kind of mentioning it something about it,
he didn't. He didn't ask me. He asked me, do
I think I belong in the Ring of Fame? And
the ass I gave him, he said, Montana, I almost
cried laughing because I'm like this dude just don't care.
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And so my homeboy bo we I'm driving one day
in the car and we just talking. No guys call
me about Hall of Fame everything, Ring of Fame. They
just bring up debates about people, and I'm like, bro,
I don't care about no damn debate, especially.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
When you did it. Say I'm twenty fifth, I did it.
You know what I'm saying. So he said, man, so
what you thinking about that ring? Though?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Man, you don't think you deserved to be in a
Ring of Fame? And I say, bowl don't worry about
it's coming soon or later. It's gonna come, he said, Bro,
he just he put the phone down like this, dude,
he just don't you know, he just know. Oh you
know what I mean, that's how you are.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
If somebody been around you, that's how they know, that's
who you are. You don't really you ain't ready with
the accolades, but that getting your name immortalized like that, Dude,
you gotta realize, like the first quarter, second quarter gonna
go by, and it halftime, your name gonna be up
there forever. And when you look up there for the
first time, I know, Santana your first name, but when
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you see the full letter word Moss up there and
you got your mom, your dad, your children, your brothers
that all got the same last name, and you representing them,
how's that gonna feed?
Speaker 3 (46:33):
I tell you that that So I'm glad you brought
that up because I just did an interview with Chastity,
you know, and she did the whole breakdown. That's one
of the things she asks, like, what is gonna mean
to you? I say, man, it means to the to
the fans, it means that I was a hell of
for redskin that's why I played fel. That's what the
fans gonna say to me. That's like my thank you
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moment to my parents again, like we every time we
do something well in our career, we accomplished something that
to me, that's always giving back to your mom and
dad showing them you know. You know, man, look man,
you blessed me with this air. You blessed me to
breathe as air. You blessed me to walk, desserve. You
got me here, and this is the least I can do.
But to me, this is the ultimate you know what
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I'm saying, because my mom and dad man, like they
sacrificed everything. You probably would never be known if but
one for me or my brothers.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
But they are because of me and my brothers, and
we are because of them.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, so you know right there, do you hop a
mouse with your kids because they'll be here. You got
an idea who's gonna kind of enjoy that moment the most?
Speaker 5 (47:39):
It be the girl. The girl.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Think, because my oldest daughter, she's she's the one that
will asking me stuff and just like be overly hyped
by any and everything about her dad. Like you know
how you always say the girls don't live on their
dash anyway. My boys, I walk in the room, they'll
be walking out the other door, you know what I mean.
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But my girl, like my oldest daughter, man Snaria, and
all of them, you know, say, c see all of
them has that. You know, they showed me that affection
that you will want from your daughters. But it's something
about Snia. I've always said this, and she's the oldest girl.
It was it's.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
Almost like how I am with my parents.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
She gives me the same kind of energy that I
give to my parents, like they're just they're forever that
person that I'm gonna look up to, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
I get that from her.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Like when I'm walking the room with her, it's like
she's gonna greet me at the door. She's gonna hug me.
She might call me what's up, ugly, but ugly it's
like what's up that? Because I'd be like, you look
like me? But I think Jay gonna she might even
cry because I'm probably gonna bring I'm probably gonna shaw
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the two that's gonna set them off. It's just one
of those things, man, I think the daughters are always
the ones that we.
Speaker 5 (48:57):
Can you know, and they be the ones.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
That if you ever had to wear a pemper, I can't,
I can't trust what saved.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Y'all might say, what man, he got a new number
and put you in the living room, leaving you This
boy got a pamper on that.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
It's time to take a break. After the break we
got Terry le Claude coming up.
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Speaker 2 (50:14):
Welcome back to the Players Club. As promised, we got
Terry McClain joining us.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Back.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
Alright, man, you had a hell of off season.
Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, how was it?
Speaker 8 (50:28):
It was a crazy sea. I got married and I
went on a honeymoon. I went to Europe for.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
The first time, had my contract situation going on, and
now it's the season.
Speaker 8 (50:41):
So I feel like I ain't really had no time
to like breathe, but like it's been a blessing though,
you know what I mean. Like I try to take
everything in stride and it's good. Just start to be
focusing on football.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
What is that like when you say, okay, having the
season that you had in twenty twenty four and saying, okay,
now I want to jump the broom for sure, and
you know it so much because the women want more,
so more than what we really want to do. We
want to just get married and going by they got
the honeymoon plan.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
They what was that light?
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Because you was on the high already off the season,
what was the light to now be on another most
with her?
Speaker 5 (51:14):
It was?
Speaker 8 (51:15):
It was amazing, honestly, Like she did a great job
of Like I grew up knowing I wanted to be
married one day, but I didn't know what a table
setting looked like hours.
Speaker 5 (51:24):
I don't know how much that joined.
Speaker 8 (51:32):
Sure, but like obviously, at the end of the day,
like my wife is amazing, and at the end of
the day, I wanted her to have the wedding of
her dreams. And the great thing about it is we
had a destination wedding in Mexico, and so we had
a lot of our close family and friends sacrifice their
time and the resource to come out and support us.
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And that was the biggest thing, like for people to
be able to see our union before God and just
see how we grown as a couple, because I've known
her for a.
Speaker 5 (52:01):
Really long time and we've grown immensely.
Speaker 8 (52:03):
So she did a great job during the season handling
a whole lot of this stuff I handle kind of like.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
The food and the tastes and stuff.
Speaker 8 (52:09):
I got that part. She did a great job handling everything.
And then when the season was over, it we was
straight into the wedding. So like after Philly, it was
like a week or two and then we was right
into the wedding, you know what I mean. And so
we got married February fifteenth, and it was an amazing ceremony.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
That's what's up if I got to say anything word
that kind of talks to your career. It's trouble shooting,
Like you always find a way to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
You played for the same name that we had on
ow here you played now you play for the command. Yeah,
you with every every storm.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
How does it feel to finally walk into a year
this got promise to it because usually you walk into
a year and it's like, see what we can do?
Speaker 5 (52:52):
Can we figure it out? But now the.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
Pressure is only like people picking you all to like
contend and be a Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 5 (52:58):
How does this feel?
Speaker 8 (53:00):
It feels amazing to come into the season with expectations,
you know, the expectation to try to win the division
and make it back to the playoffs and to try
to win the Super Bowl this year. Like, the expectation
is great if you're a competitor andreat thinking about it.
We surrounded by a lot of coaches and players in
that locker room who are not afraid of those expectations.
And at the same time, like, you just can't assume
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that it's going to be the same as we know
we play ball all the time. Just because we had
a great success last year doesn't equal that we're going
to have that same success this year, and so I
think it's been great to see just the day one
mentality that we've all had going into this season and
the excitement that you know, Washington football is where it.
Speaker 5 (53:40):
Should be, you know, compete for championship.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
You mentioned having success last season as a team. You
personally set the franchise record with thirteen touchdown receptions in
the season, with one hundred yard receiving games, All Pro
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Pro Bowl. Then you get married, and then you know
everything else to transpire, but you also have to go
into the offication, like, man, how can I get better
as a player? What was that process like for you
to say, Okay, I've chieved these I've achieved these things,
but I still got other levels I can get to.
Speaker 8 (54:23):
Definitely, I think right after the honeymoon that we went
to like that next week, and I'm getting back off
of you know, the time difference from the Maldi, so
it's like a twelve hour time difference, and I had
to straight down the Florida to start working, you know,
I mean, start working out and working with Tha Go Feed,
my receiver coach that I work with, and working at
bomb Ritos. Just getting my speed and agility, getting my
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body back held up, and working on the fine tuning
of my game. And I feel like just being more
sudden in the top of my routes, being able to
be able to run into a route like a pinch route,
a comeback route, routes coming back to the quarterback, and
I don't have to kind of lean or stutter. I
could just drop down into my break and come out
in two or three steps. So I've been really drilling
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that over the last off season and continue to just
get better with my body language, you know what I mean,
being able to sell routes with my eyes and my
shoulders and those little nuances. When you get to this
stage of your career going into year seven, there's already
all that film out on you, but there's still little
details that you could get better at that's going to
help you be a season route runner or a season receiver.
Speaker 5 (55:26):
You know.
Speaker 8 (55:27):
And I think one thing that I've really still used
to my advantage is, you know, my speed. I don't
have to run one hundred miles per hour every single route,
like deception is a lot a big part of route running,
you know what I mean, And being able to make
the dB feel like you're going to be running by them,
and then I have that extra gear to be able
to run by them or sell that I'm going to
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run by getting this blind spot.
Speaker 5 (55:49):
He got to flip and turn and run and then
I could come back to the quarterback.
Speaker 8 (55:52):
So just little nuanced skills that I've tried to continue
to sharpen in my game is what I did this
off season.
Speaker 4 (55:59):
That's funny you say that because me and Santana I
always go back and forth. Because I said, like, as
a XDB, most receivers got to define in trade, like
they got something that says this is what he does. Well,
this is what I got to take away now when
I say, when I'm studying Terry, you kind of Jerry
Rice is in a way where you don't have a
defining trade. It's nothing clear about your game. It's the
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whole sum of the points. And Jerry I always had
this ability. I think they say Jerry ren with a
four or five coming out of nobody ever caught him
from behind. Nobody ever caught him from behind. Do you
feel like you out wanted oversea? Where I haven't got
no defining trade. That makes me harder to check because
I feel like that makes you harder to check.
Speaker 8 (56:37):
One hundred percent. I think I do a lot of
things at a very high level. I think my best
trades are probably tracking the deep ball most of you know,
almost like baseball, Like being able to track it over
both shoulders. That allows me to be able to comfortably
stack DB's and give Jaden, you know, a good area
to throw the football on the outside of the numbers.
Speaker 5 (56:55):
And then tested catches.
Speaker 8 (56:56):
I think winning at the catch point, you know, I
think catesting catches is kind of sometimes gets misconstrued as
all that then you're not getting open.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
Yeah, top of the ball. Who's winning at the catch? Yeah?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (57:09):
When that ball is in the air and it's you
in the dB, who's winning. And I think that's one
of my elite traits. But I think honestly, I do
it all really well. Real deep routes, the middle of
the field, routes, underneath routes.
Speaker 5 (57:21):
I block really.
Speaker 8 (57:22):
Solidly and UH and I make plays when when you
need me to make plays. And I think that's uh
the traits that you want from a receiver. And I
try to continue to be the best leader I can.
If there's one area I feel like I continue want
to improve in is just yards after a catch, you
know what I mean? I think that Yeah, Yeah, I
think I improved on that those last few games this
season with the Detroit play and the Eagles play. But
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continue to try to uh you know, create plays after
the catch. I think it's something that I think will
allow my game to continue.
Speaker 5 (57:49):
You get better with it with hand placement.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
I learned stiff, hume more fine and win a defender
get the ball.
Speaker 5 (57:55):
Yeah, definitely. I think it's a it's a feel, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (57:58):
I think I tried to really drill that in practice
where you see me kind of running full speed after
I catch catch the ball because I'm trying to simulate
having to set up that safety or doing a little
uh in out move on a on.
Speaker 5 (58:08):
A dB that's uh at comeback on my hill.
Speaker 8 (58:11):
Yeah, and then having to use a stiff arm as well,
and you know, trying to pick up my feet so
I'm not getting tripped up.
Speaker 5 (58:16):
Okay, Well, I want to ask you before we let
you leave.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
You've been here for the seventh is your seventh seven
And one of the things about being here for a
long time, I had teen years. Yeah, you see so
many guys in and out of that wide receiver room
on your team as a whole. What what are your
kind of like What if the first initially thought you
had when you found out you was going to have
Debo as one of your capadres.
Speaker 8 (58:38):
Yeah, man, Debo is a dog like He's a he's
like minded like with me, you know what I mean.
And I think, like you said, a lot of receivers
have certain traits about them that stand out, and I
think one of the things that stands out about Debo
is his competitive edge and his dog mentality out on
the field. You feel him when he's making plays with
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the ball in his hands. And so you got a
guy like that to bring to your receiver room. He
brings an attitude in an edge that compliments myself knowing the.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
Other guys that we have.
Speaker 8 (59:07):
And he's he's played in some of the biggest games too,
Super Bowls, championship games, and so, uh.
Speaker 5 (59:13):
The moment is not too big for him.
Speaker 8 (59:14):
And to have another guy, you know, who can make
plays when you get the ball in his hands, who's
just a dog in and out, and you know when
we go against those tough teams, he's gonna be standing
front line right with you, you know what I mean.
And that's a guy you want to go to battle with.
And so I've had a lot of respect for him since,
you know, we met back at the Senior Bowl coming
out of college, and just to see how his careers
progressed has been great. And now that he's on our team,
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I think he's gonna really help us this year.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Appreciate it, man, it's been well.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
My last thing buck Eys Texas.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
Did you go? You just watched it here?
Speaker 5 (59:53):
I did go. I went to the game. I was
in the shoes.
Speaker 8 (59:55):
I always be good back, so it was it was
good to see those those His offense always starts a
little slow. We got to bring a new quarterback. Everything's
gonna be good right there. But Matt Patricia is doing
this thing on the defensive side.
Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Of the ball. Them boys is flying around.
Speaker 8 (01:00:08):
So to come out there and make a statement week one, uh,
it is great.
Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
I hate to report the news. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You've been on here plenty of times that you know.
We like to have all our guests autographics football.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
We appreciate you, man.
Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
I appreciate you all too. Man.
Speaker 8 (01:00:29):
Set me on and just support me. You know, there's
not too many O G redskins. Yeah, players, So I'm
just happy to be a part of this.
Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
You hear, yes, you know so.
Speaker 8 (01:00:49):
I said, they're like, you know when you hit thirty,
like you gotta get ready for Social Security.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
And I played I was thirty eight and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I love to hear that. He looked like they cut
you in two.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
We gotta do it for the Clers Club. We'll see
y'all next time. Next week's same time. The Players Club
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Welcome back into the Players Club.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We are your host, London Fletcher, sant Tana Marson. We
got a special guest, I don't know about special, very
special special.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We got Fred Smooth filling in for Sean Springs.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Always all right, Santanna and Fred, why don't you tell
the folks what we got for him on this this
week's episode.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, you know, London, I'm gonna be getting everybody ready
for this week's ones match up against the g Men,
and I'm gonna be talking about some of the receivers
I'm looking forward to seeing.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Oh most definitely, and I'm gonna talk about some of
the defensive backs and talk about why I'm better filling
in than Shun Spring.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
And then later I got my guy mister Boo himself,
Scary Terry mask On or Mascofs.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, we even got a segment where we're gonna talk
about mister A to the nines, greatest moments in the Burket.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Then go he wants to immortalize this week to talk to.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But before we dive into all that in the Commander's Football,
let's get to know the one only Fred Smooth came
off of the Soth.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, we got the co host to get Loud, none
other than mister get Loud himself, mister Fred Smooth Fred
with this segment. Man, since we got you on here, man,
we're gonna ask you some questions about yourself now, right,
we need we need to.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Know a little something about you.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So my first question, what was your made moment like
I made it moment in the league? What was the
first time you felt like I'm here, that like I belonged. Yeah,
like you belonged.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I'd probably say it was my first game that I
ever played, To tell you the truth, I played against
the San Diego Charges. They was in San Diego, and
I remember walking out on the field. You know, Ladani
and thomasin was our classmates, so Ladanien was on the
other side. I remember seeing Doug Flutie for the first time.
You know, Flutiy had this mistique around here that I
can make anything happen. I remember seeing rodn the harrison.
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But then Junior say I was out there and he
was playing defense so hard that I thought it was
two of them. It was too Junior sayouts. But we
go into the game. I get my first career interception.
I had first game. You got picked the first game,
I got a pick. First game, I had nine tacos.
I got a fumer recovery in the forced fum. But
I was defensive player of the week. So I felt
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like then, like I could play with these guys.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Rookie, the game you won up, you went up the
first game.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
In the back of my head, I like what left
like whet to The game was going.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So fast, and I don't know if y'all remember if
they was playing on the San Diego Padres for you
the time, remember like I had scraped and I was
scratched up out of the game, but I remember taking
a shower and sitting down and I was like it
was like a lot of weight off my shoulder cause
I was like, man, I can actually play with these guys.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And that's when my companies even grew even more. Okay,
it was one of my favorite spots to play into
this I ran a pump.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I ran my second punt return back and and in
the second week of running one back the week prior,
and so every time I went there, we went there.
In the playoffs, we beat Ladani and them him and
Drew Brees in the first round, and I had one
hundred yards on gym had a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
So I always showed up in that statement.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Like those baseball stadium like the Beau It was just
like I definitely didn't like San Diego's. That would just
felt just real big.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
It was wild.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It was why what's up? He played in the NFC.
He obviously played in the NFC, uh North North as well?
What's your who's your favorite police to go against?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Even I know we got the Cowboys rivalry, we got
the Eagles rivalry. But my sunshine game, like like like tennis,
every time he played in Sanego some magical happy mine
was against Green Bay.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Like even when we was here.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
You remember we played on with Greg Williams interception like
I picked off Brett Farr more than any quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Get bell thrown on you trying to jump in the stand.
I remember kicked one back and ran it back and
limbo league. I'm just going to touch on health and
they poured.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
This is what they didn't realize when they were pulling,
pushing me out the stands, pouring the Milwaukee I.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Mean, I was, you know, having fun. Man.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's just something about Green Bay. You can look at
my whole career. I have never had a bad game again.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
To get far five, you got five picks.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I got five picks out far Driver.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I didn't play Donal Driver, who is from Mississippi, so
I kind of took that very personal.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I think I may be in my whole career gave
up to two catches against Donal Driver. It's games that
I have taken him completely out the game. So it's
always something about Green Bay and I don't care if
I play them here there, I'm gonna have a good game.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So I was gonna ask you a question about, you know,
what's your favorite, you know, career game.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
It was it one of them games I would say this.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
We always had battles with Seattle, Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
It was some about them and Mike Honggreen and that offense.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
And I remember we played in then FedEx Field and
it was fourth quarter, forty five seconds left.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
They trying to drive, They trying to get him field
goal range.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
We up to and they throw an out route to
Daryl Jackson and yeah, DJ and I toe tapped and
I catched the ball on the sideline and I remember
catching that ball laying out like a receiver. I hit
the ground, I got up, and I just ran all
the way to the locker room. Game the game was over,
So that one felt good because I can really take
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on the city of d C.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
We don't see none of it. We don't see none
of these hollow man they got.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's like this happened. The Center has been a siding.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But I have yet He's giving us all these interception highlights.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I've yet to see any of the.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
If it's true, it's true, man, I'm telling you like this,
the proof center pudding.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
The good thing about it, I know Maddie.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
She will find these clips and she will show y'
all these clips.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I'm not man, and all we see is some grandy
video for you. I don't know if any of them
are picks. Yeah, your highlight was a tackle, would know
it wasn't. That was a better tackling than people gave
me credit for. But these hands sponsored by Pampers.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
If you dropping a baby out of a burning building,
you want me to catch You want me to catch
the baby.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So what I'm also getting if you had going against
Brett Farr and Donald Driver.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Look at him, he gonna find.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I'm the career fixture.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
You got twenty one. I got two com back because
of pennity.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So and half half the exception. You got what you
never played against.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I played against the Hall of Famer. That's what you're saying.
If I never played against the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know I picked sixty two.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I'm sure you played twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I got a pick six. But damn they have a
quarterback that's played in my.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You had played with a lot of tea.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
What was it like playing with a Tata bluefoot akas
praise and myself.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Just totally you know what, different guys but the same guys.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
All.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Y'all had this this pre practice regiment where y'all are loaners.
At this point, one of y'all in the hot tub,
tanner on the table getting his handscreen worked on bluefoot,
chewing his tongue. He got his pre like practice, and
y'all was very y'all was every tunnel vision.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Give y'all all, that is a group, very tune of vision.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
But when the game started, y'all more now it's more
about team with y'all. But independently, y'all kind of worked
like independent contractors. When it comes before practice and after practice.
So I give y'all y'all love for preparation. Y'all prehab
so you ain't have to rehab. Y'all did a lot
of stuff that gave y'all longevity. So I give y'all
y'all propers over that y'all took care of your body.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
I will say, I don't know how you did it. Brother.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You would be there to the clock all mantis. We
almost late you and there cracking on somebody.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I used to be leaving the dough and I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Hearing you and the left I would be hitting the
outside doing you still back there left.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm like this, dude, don't stop this. My want people
got on. He ain't got a he got a thigh
path in his past, and he ain't there.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Joking on somebody like man, I'm just gonna go to practice,
however I come.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I'm coming because I actually love practice. You know some
people drinking it. I actually love practice. Ain't nowhere what
that's better? Could we be doing it this time? It's
not a better job, I said. I appreciated my job
to the fo. That's why I said.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I always was one of those guys to try to
make sure I held on to it. I was big
as saying, look, this is what I've always wanted to do.
So therefore I'm not gonna let you you or you
or you take it from me. I'm not gonna let
myself going.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Like a lot of time, it's the players that get
in their own way because not the other players.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And that was one of my reasons of kind of
embracing what went on with me in New York, because
I found out that you have to take care of.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Your body if you want to have a long.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Career, especially when they hit the high expectations for you.
It's the first round and then they said he's doing it.
But then he ain't doing this, you get hurt.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh man, I remember I remember Fred talking about you
haven't seen the gazelle stretch scratching.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
You said that she to go hunt.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Actually, my scratching was when I was walking around, like yeah,
when we like when everybody else was scratching, I'm walking around,
So I loosened up in the hot tub like I
just always hit the hotel for prectice in the steam room.
When I go in the steam room in the hot tub,
I'm loose like I'm ready to go now. So now
my job is I'm trying to get everybody up for practice.
Let's go pray. I'm talking trash to him, lit trash
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to him. Make a little noise. Now let's go.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
All right man speaking of let's go. Yeah, we got
to get to this game against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Football season here, Man, here'll.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Still get jitry at this time he year.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Here's here's what I'll say. So I'll start doing my
prep for calling the game this week. And it was different,
like I was like locked in, like putting, putting in
the hours and getting ready for like it's here. It's
a different, different mentality. I don't know that it felt like.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That for me. Like, man, the regular season is here now.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Now my heart skipper beat.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Sometime when it's this time, come the air, start to
cool down, football really start to be back, start to
see a little high school, starting to see a little college,
and now you know the pros is back. But like
going into this year compared to twenty years of us playing,
I don't think the fan base has been this excited
and looking for to a season a long time, probably
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since Darryl Green in the ninety one team or.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Something like this. So this is a whole nother level
for this fan base. Now we will say this too.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Last year, even though we hadn't played a game yet,
it felt different.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Also, it felt different.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It felt different because one, we just wanted to see
what having a quarterback, you know what I mean, like,
because you saw flashes.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
We ain't seen the whole package.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
We just heard things and that that was being done
in practice. We saw a couple of preseason you know,
glimpses of what he could be and you're like, man,
I see that ball, Yeah, I know, I.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Know he can get it on you. So we wanted
to see it live.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So I had higher expectations, but at the same time
I was trying I was being optimistic last year, but
at the same time I had an expectation of that
it should look different. Then now you fast forward to
this year, it's my my expectation has kind of just
you know, it's flat lined because I know what we
can do.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
The flow is here now I want them to know
that it just doesn't stop there.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So now I'm just kind of now I'm back to
that whole point of now, like London said, like I'm
almost jittering as if I'm in I'm in the game.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
With him. We got a lot of eyes on us.
So what you're gonna do? You know what I'm saying?
What we gonna do it?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
But we got a familiar opponent.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You know y'all trying to watch the game.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You can catch it on Fox, but I prefer you
to tune in to the radio. Bro's big big one
with Brown, Weinstein at Logan, Paulson and myself.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think I take, I think.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
To the top radio crew in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I know I'd like to give a Lennon flat but
when he get on the mic, him and Brown they
make magic.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
And you ain't gonna get no smarter nerd.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Than Logan posting on the sideline bitsins sideline interviews. Hey,
I give it a y'all. Problems were number one right now?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, man, So we gotta we got to start off
in the trenches.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think when you talk about this game, man, battle
of the trenches.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
We got a new little defensive line.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
We know that the Giants they got four first rounders
on a yeah, on their defensive front. What do y'all
want to see from our defensive group in this first
out another season.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I'm gonna jump in.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I'm gonna go fursther you the defensive extorting there, you
know what I mean for me defensively, man, I think
with all the hoop lob about us not stopping the
run last year, we still did.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
So many great things.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And that's the credit to the coaching staff is having
those guys from one fly around with the hair on
fire the way they did. But for two is even
though we had games where we gave up, we gave
a lot of when we got down with our back
against that wall, we found a way to get that
ball back or just make.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Make you kick a field goal.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So with that being said, coming into this year and
knowing that we kind of rearrange some things up front,
I'm looking to see how much does you know, having
those new guys in the middle, what that what effect
does it bring to our secondary? Last year we was
kind of flaky secondary wise. You know, we had bright spots.
We had bright spots, that's safety, both of them. We
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had a bright spot at Cone at times, you know,
with a young guy in Santa Still.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
But now I feel like our corner, our.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Corner safety, all of them together could be very special
and not only being special by themselves, including that D line.
If they they kind of pressure. I think they're gonna
bring and kind of clog.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Up some things that I think they gonna do.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
If we can stop the run and still make guys
and get guys to throwing the ball you know, at
at at a at a rapid pace, meaning that they
don't really want.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
To do it, but they have to do it.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, I can see the secondary being being one of
the top secondaries talked about.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
So that's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'm looking to see if we're gonna see that come
week one, because I think this opponent here could be
that appoint that we can really see who we are bingo,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
They have a weapon on our side.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
They have a quarterback who can throw it, got running back,
and they have a few other guys that can you know,
catch the ball. So I really want to see about
defense going to have what it takes to kind of say,
let's put the pass in the past with somebody different
this year.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
All right, this is second year coach wits defense.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So now that's when coordinators really not a defense kind
of looks as an image of them and we got
kind of pushed around in NFC Championship games so we
went and got bigger in the interior. We also got
bigger on the edges. When you bring in a Javan
Kenlaud now with him paying just Newton and all them
having their rotation in the middle, I'm excited to see
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what's gonna be the past Russian rotations. Ken Law has
the ability to play defensive end also, But we got
big at the defensive end. You bring in the Dietrich Wise,
you understand what you got there, Like we got some
dudes there. You add Frankie Louvu to the rush, you
add Bonon Miller to the rush. Now we're going to
win on rundowns. So we earned the right to rush
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the passer. That's the key. That's how this defensive bill
can we make you go third and long. And if
we can go third and along with the defensive backs
we got on this team, now they organically can get
themself into the top ten when it comes to a defense,
not because they got the best players, because they are
more to some of their parts. We got a interior
pass rotation, We're gonna have an edge pass rotation, and
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we're gonna make you say where's Waldough.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You're gonna have to say, we're gonna try to.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Find bon Miller to try to push the line covers
to him. Well, guess what, Frankie Louvu coming down here.
The Tasman and Devil will destroy things.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I like the Young and the Yang.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
With that, with Bobby Wagoner sitting in the middle, just
waiting on everything to be funnel to him by these
bigger guys, yes, I think that's gonna give us a
chance to kind of dictate turns on off. I mean
on defense, And this is the key to me on defense.
Me and London then didn't really get to play with
a lot of leads.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
No defense.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Playing with the lead is a totally defense. It's playing
tight at the corner position. If I'm playing and the
game is tight, I'm not taking chances.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I'm gonna play, keep everything in front of you.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I'm just gonna play.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I hope they make a mistake, just something.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
But if we got the lead, you gonna see conners
get a little low. You're gonna see pass rushes up,
not think about the run, and it's gonna unlock something
that they couldn't do last year because everything was just
right there. The game was so tight. So I want
to see how they look organically because of the offense
and because of the live.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think this defense, probably they might be going to
this game feeling a little bit overlooked, maybe even underrated.
From the standpoint you think of what the talk has
been going into this.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Game been all to talk about the Giants defense.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, obviously you're gonna talk about our offense because of
what JD five and the weapons that's been added.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The offensive line changes.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
But are D and then the Giants they're talking about
their office because you got Russell Wilson at the quarterback
position now. But this defensive line, this defense in general,
especially as I got to watch them in the one
kind of the preseason game that kin Low and the
Rod played together and you saw you know, Wis and
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all those guys, I'm like, man, this group could be
very formidable. Especially you mentioned stopping the run. They talked
about being able to play a more attacking style from
the defensive line, getting up field, be creating, having being
disruptive in the backfield.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
That's a lot of linebackers to run and hear clean.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Play down here for a lot more and you winning
on first and second down. Now you're getting into thirty
five pluses. You mentioned Miller, you mentioned Javon Kurst, I mean,
you mentioned ked Long, you mentioned Frankie Louvo Louis.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I think our edge rushers are gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Think our pastor is gonna be fine, and all the
different pieces we can play. On the second day, we
got guys to play inside, got to play outside.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I can't wait to see these guys.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Really, I think they gonna I think they're gonna take
top building in this ball game. As crazy as that.
When you think about the office that we have, I
think today we have spectations. They're gonna set the tone
for this ball.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean especially too, man, when you just talk about
some of the things that has been transpired throughout the
whole training camp. I mean what we've been hearing about,
the throwing people around me, and you know, at at
one point, I'm here to tell you guys, I feel
like the first few days of training camp, the defense
always we always a step ahead, but I never saw
it be sustainable throughout the whole camp. Yeah, And I
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feel like watching from my little naked eye at times
when I'm out there and then just reading what's been
going on in the days. I wasn't it's always been
the defense got got got you know, got the offense
to the defense had the offense.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
You know, a number of the day the defense did this,
the defense did that.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So when you have that kind of you know, roaming
around the building, it's also gonna be like one of
them competition levels, like who gonna who gonna set the tone?
And not to me, that's that's that's a fun team,
that's a healthy that's a team, that's a that's something that.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I would love to be a part of, just knowing
that you can even do it.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
We're gonna right, but offensively, we want to be the
one we don't do we don't care anything, but we're
gonna do it together.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Listen, do the Giants.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
We're gonna lean on a d line of first rounders
and we're gonna they're gonna have to be the end
all be all. So we're gonna be judged by these
four first rounders and if they can't change games, we
ain't gonna win no games. And that's how the Giants
feel to me in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
They feel like if we're gonna win trench warfare, it's
gonna be on the side of the defense, not on
the side of the offense when I'm sorry, I hate
to tail in.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
We got a group over there called the Divine Swine.
They want to play.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, up, I'm glad you mentioned the defensive Live you
mentioned the Giants for first rounders. As I was prepping,
I'm looking at this, I'm like, Okay, these are the
ways I think we should attack them. Tyner, you offensive guy,
I'm gonna start with you. How do you feel we
should attack this Giants defense and not allowed them to
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kind of tee off on you know?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know, and I've been saying this for so long,
and I'm pretty sure y'all probably being that we've been
doing these shows for a while now, it's.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Kind of odd to me to say it, but it's real.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And as a receiver, you know, I've played on so
many different teams that we ran the ball first. Yeah,
you know, and you might scratch your head, like, yeah,
but when you got a guy like tan On, you got.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
A guy like this.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
The offenses that I've been on that went to the postseason,
that that had success, that that saw the second round,
or or just had a consistency about themselves, was able
to establish the run and I feel that when you
have a team that is predicated on saying we're going
to get out of your quarterback, we got to run
at them. Yeah, we got to find a way to formation.
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I want to see us get in formations where we
keep them guessing, not knowing. If we finna have somebody
cracking them, then run the ball at them or getting
them saying formations not knowing. Okay, here goes that formation again.
It might be coming with this run here. Then change
it up and go to the other side. Okay, here
this formation again. Now we're gonna zappa zoom up out
Houston tight. Now we're gonna hit you with the past game.
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We have to be creative. And I know that I'm
saying this because I know Cliff Kingsbury is very creative.
We have to give them looks that are not traditional
run looks, but that are not traditional pass looks, and
switch it up.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
When we in a past look, run the ball at them.
When we in a run look, pass the ball out.
I mean, we have to switch it up.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But at the same time, with all that being said,
first and foremost, I want to see the run game
be efficient.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
I want to see the.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Same things I saw in the preseason with our run game,
with our linemen up front being able to be you know, fast,
fierce and we get today and moving the ball for
it because I think if we can do that to
control the ball game, because we know we can do
with five with the ball in.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
His hands, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So if you can establish a run game out the
gate man, the people can always be on.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
They gonna always be We're gonna always be pushing them backwards.
Ain't nothing worse.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Hey, I don't be on the sideline looking at the.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Tanner shiffling Tanner shifting boy he brought.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Is he is exactly right. If I had the game
planning against these guys. First thing you do to a
pass Russia is run at his keys to if you
ever wanted to stop him from pass Russian on third down.
I've seen how people treated Bruce mill like they was
running him on first down, running the second down, hoping
that third down he just ain't got enough juice. You
got these two guys, I mean, these four guys as
a group, keep your formations tight, do nothing, make a
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pass Russell sick. Then they have a slot wire receiver
sitting here and he got to go past the slot
wire receiver and a tight egg, so keep the four
matres tight.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Second of all Ekler.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I want a lot of Ekler early. I want to
give him a lot of Chris Rodriguez late. He go
to think, this is why I want to do this.
I want to make this group, specially with Dexter Lawrence
go left to right. I want them to have to
play the So I.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Want the screen game. I want to draw game.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I want every time that he gets on the field,
I want him running somewhere that just not sitting in
the middle of his field. Number three, him and be
Oddish has had some battles and people don't like to
give him his props for tighter be Oddish when he
comes to sexy Dexy Lawrence, he ain't doing that dance
on beout, so go one right there.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Now we've got to ask where the other matchups coming from.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Who's gonna be man enough to take on the big
tongsil Like, who's gonna be the man enough? It's Triple
Dog gonna say no, rookie, you gotta get over there
against that name. So you know how passed us is
out London. They see an easy assignment. They gonna try
to get to it is. Ryan Burn's gonna say, nah,
I'm the oldest. You get over there, you take it.
So this's gonna be the question who's gonna be trying
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to take on Tumsle, who's gonna be trying to run
from him? So it's gonna be an offensive coordinator game,
and this is gonna be an offensive line game. It's
gonna be all about them wild boys in the Divine Swine.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, y'all mentioned the run game. The rpo game is
gonna be key. I think that's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
A key where Jaden has the option to either have
the ball off or if the linebacker come up, or
you got windows the number. He doesn't like the numbers,
Hey throw the bubble screen, get get our debo out there.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
On the edge.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
See if the boys want to keep tackling him.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You just had the same enthusiasm in the first quarter
that you had you had in the first quarter. So
that running up sideline, the sideline quick game. You'll take
your shots, but you have to operating a lot of
thirdy mediums or last time, I even say even third
and fours or last Yeah, Otherwise you're gonna those boys,
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they're gonna rush the pass.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
They're gonna pay their ears back.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So that's how you kind of keep them, keep them
off off their game a little bit. Secondary matchup, man,
John's got some receivers. They got the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
He had a hell of work.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They got higher, we got we got secondary. Yeah, yeah,
I got a new secondary. You mentioned Slaton, Ye want Dale.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Robinson justin and to the end, they got some players,
they got some mismatches, they got some guy that can
scratch the field.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
But we also know they're gonna try to force feed it.
The number one.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Let's be honest, Labors is gonna get a bulk of
the balls. They won't think about them. They want to
count of play like we play. They want to get
the lead and then let this defensive line rush.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
That's what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
They want to get an alternative lead and they want
these guys to pass rush.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
They don't want them guys to be run stoppers.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
So yeah, I totally understand they do got weapons out there,
especially when it.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Comes to that there.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Do you anticipate they're being matched up where we're gonna, hey,
this is on you on this guy.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You just we're gonna play right.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Play right.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I think we gonna play left, and we're gonna let
them serve the dishes to us.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Where do you want to put this guy?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
And if it's elite neighbors and they started, especially after
the first quarter, is I'm gonna have a feel of
what you want to do offensive wise with elite neighbors.
If I see you fin the force feed them, I'm
gonna have this safety to kind of hang out over there.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
I'm gonna force you to throw away.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And we got they got Russ at the quarterback position. Yeah,
Russ gonna take deep shots. You know, no, I could
anticipate the Giants taking at least four deep shots in
this game.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
I think they're gonna take them early.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I think they're gonna take them first quarter to try
to back us off. You know, they got Tracy the
running back. He can run the ball. He's a wide receiver.
They're gonna try to catch, get him catches out the
back field. The one thing about Russ and our defensive
line they're gonna see early is he ain't gonna be
able to throw over them. He can throw between them.
But so I think they're gonna get him on a
lot of boots. I think they're gonna get him on
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some quarterbacks. I think they're gonna get him outside the
pocket to try to say, you know what, you gotta
pass option, get the ball out, let's see what we
can do, and we're gonna try to run on the
short of that.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, I definitely think they're gonna try to move him
around because I think just on his own, he's not
he's not the same rush they used to move around
and make that that last Yeah, so they're gonna try
to say, Okay, well we don't want to sit him
and having being a sitting up, Let's get him on
some boots and waggles and then see how we plan it.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
See if we can get some of the receivers.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
On one on one match on one on one matchups
on shallow crosses or you know, across across the middle
of the field to kind of get that favorable matchup
where they can you know, dink and dump and try
to you know, move the ball down that way.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Bob.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
But like I said before, too, if we get up
and we get up and like you say, and touch
somebody and put our hands on this and show them
the kind of coverage that we can play, it's gonna
be a long day for him because that's gonna give
now us more time up front to get out the rust.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
He don't want to run.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
He ain't the same rush from them back in the
day that can tuck that ball and you know, and
get some with this leg. But like I say too,
I don't never underestimate rush because I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Have a game I saw last year.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But when he got when he got that ball up
in there against our guy and they scored and beat
us off that plate, I was just sitting there, like,
you gotta know, that's the only way they can go.
First of all, go in front of me, but he
going on, he wanted to throw it behind you.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
That's why I love.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Our communication that we had on defense. Once we get
to the fifty yard line, we a lerned shot.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, we're doing it to each other like it's one
thing to know what's coming and have the alerts, but
it's another thing to actually be disciplined and poisoned enough
to go out to actually que the way you need
to execute to get get your job.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Done, no doubt. Well, you know, fellas, we can talk
about that all day.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And this is one of our favorite segments because not
only because I'm the one that's talking about it's talking about.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
A fast Lane. And you know, in the fast Lane.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Presented by Eastern Automotive Group, any car any way for
everyone since nineteen eighty eight, you know, well.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
We got two guys that ran pretty fast in the
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Speaker 1 (29:02):
Years ago they used the sun down the top forty.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Well, well, on this edition of the fast Lane, I
want me talking to you about some of the best
receivers that's going to be in these these matchups against
the Giants and Commanders this weekend. And I usually don't
like to talk about the opponents guys, but I gotta
talk about Elite Neighbors.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
You got to think he's one of the guys. That's
that I have to mention.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
You know, we got on our side, you know, Terry
mcclaurin and also Debo. Uh so, let me get this
thing started. Molique neighbors. Yes problem. Well, look, man, one
of the things about Milite Neighbors man, he's he's shown
the lead. He took the lead by notice last year
and showed the lead that Look, I'm a guy to
be working with you know what I mean, I think, uh,
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one of the things they have going for them and
they pass the game. Although I do like a couple
of other guys they have. He's a guy that's gonna
get I guess you can say.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Of the balls.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Ship he go get, want to get enough to where
he gotta be special. You know, brother, he have ten
catchers or ten attempts. They're gonna give him enough to
somebody to see if one of our guys can't cover him.
And that's one of the things that stand out to
me about which is what he can do. And not
only because he gonna get a both of the you know,
the receptions or the targets he just won. Of those playmakers,
he's a difference maker. He got a body type like
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jamar Che. He's also can run like a Jama.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Che and he's a LS you guys, so you know
those l that's you guys.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
They're no want to be putting out some great receivers
the last few years. Man, So I had to give
him a lot of the credit. Now on our side,
on our side of the ball, a guy that I
don't think needs no introduction or mister scary Terry himself.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
It's great to have Terry back in the room. You know.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
We also had him on this show Somebody Around and
and and hit that interview. Yeah, Terry is a guy man,
you know, Fred says all the time, he just special.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Don't have.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Good everything, not great enough. It ain't two things, it
ain't three things. He just does everything. He's he's a
he's a workman. He's a yeah that puts on his
hard blue, little blue collar and go out there and
go to work.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
I'm happy to have him back, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
One of the things that I couldn't imagine coming into
week one without having them, and being that that that
we do have him.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I just feel like he's he ignites that room.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And he's happy.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yeah, he's he's happy. Yeah. So you know, not to
be too long with it on them.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I just feel like Terry is one of those guys
that when you really see his body of work, you
you you you just smile about it because he's a
guy that you can say, I'm anna rest ashore and
one seven gonna come up with a play.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
You cheerful what I'm saying. You cheer for him, you
poor for him.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
He's just one of those guys, and you talked about
that Louisiana. If you think about right now in Louisiana,
Jamar Chase, all right, Jessin Jefferson, Jeffers and elite neighbors
Brian Thomas Junior, Ceedee Lamb all from within twenty five
miles of each other.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
And then not the add guys like like what they
I don't know what's in the water right now, right,
but they understand the art of playing wide receiving you right,
He's very much like Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Maybe it's a twitch here, maybe a little twitter Jamar Chase,
and he can make every play. But this is this
is what makes receivers very dangerous. It ain't the receiver.
It's how many time my quarterback gonna give me an
opportunity to burn you?
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Thank you? Is he gonna force feed me? And this
makes him dangerous.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
So if you're going to be on him, if you're
Trey Amos, if you Mikey Sam Still, if you lead
them more, understand the ball coming.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
The ball comes, and you need to understand that it's
only one way to get.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Him off you. You need to be close to this guy.
You need to be touching this guy. You need to
be disrupting this guy. But like this and Monique belief
neighbors because he got some DV in him. If he
ain't made going into the locker room at halftime, we
got you want to bath.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
I got Debo from my next guy.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
But before I get to talk about de Bo London,
who who you got it?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I like a guy that I like Noel Brown.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
The reason I like Noel Brown I went back and
looking at the the two games that he had against
the Giants. He went for he had eight receptions for
one hundred and sixteen yards. He had two really nice
games against but I think he had a catch maybe
that went for like fifty or somethingences Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
He had to pass in afferience.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So he's a guy that, especially if you look at
our offense, Noel Brown's gonna you're gonna think about stopping
Terry first, You're gonna think about stopping Debo zach Er.
Then you probably you're probably.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Gonna get the uh Noel probably fit yeah at best
for it.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Steady work anyway, get steady working.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
He's gonna have opportunities to go one on one in
the Giants. I know they've they've added to their their
cornerback position. They signed the kid from a New Orleans,
But I still like Noel Brown in this matchup, just
being an underrated guy that's gonna have his opportunities to
make some players in this game.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, you know being with you know that you kind
of highlighted or Brown.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I think that what makes this other guy that I
want to talk about specially not only because he showed
us so much in what he can do right out
to catch with the ball, but he also a guy
that just can like like Fred, they always talk about it.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
He's an alert guy.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
He's a guy when he's on the field you have
to wear number one at where's the alert?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
And when you.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Got a guy, what are you thinking about?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So I do remember something you said.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'm glad you said Fred of the alert guy, finish up,
finish Then I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Come back to.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I can't wait to hit his story because now I'm already.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Talk about now.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
But de Boys is one of those guys. Man, I
think to man, you know you spoke on knowing. I'm
so happy you.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Did because people fail to realize.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Noah came in week two of last year and just
took that spot and just saying that I'm number two.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
I'm gonna be.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Number two, and I'm gonna be out here and I'm
and I'm gonna give you work. I'm gonna give you
work like no other guy my signs can give you.
And when I think about what he brought to the
team last year, just think about what he could bring
to the team this year with now added Debo and
having Terry back.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
So what Debo does.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Is, you know, people talk so much about what Debo
wasn't showing them or how did he look, but they
don't know. We watched the football player, Debo. We don't
care nothing about how you look. All we care about
how the product is once that ball get in his hand,
or how the product is once he gets between those
white lines.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
And he haven't, he haven't.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
He haven't showed me anything but what I've seen when
when I saw him over there and saying fran and
I'm looking forward to just seeing what can he open?
What can he unlock for this offense, because you know,
we talk about getting this offense in the red zone
and who we're gonna use.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
In the short yards game. Why we got to use
the short yardage guy?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We got Deo slipstrip anything and say tackle him or
while we.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Got to use somebody else or change thing up.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
When you can bring d in motion and not here
one of these guys on the back end in a
nod or terror or lane whoever's on the field.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
So I just think Debo special man.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
He brings something to our offense that's going to unlock
a lot of the other guys. But at the same time, too, man,
you know he's gonna be a force to reckon with.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
What you got to say. Last.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I want to say, we're practice one day and we
getting I don't know who we're playing, but Fred, y'all
know he's loud on the field and he's we always
preached out. We're gonna learn some different things about what's
gonna happen. So Fred, one time he like I.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Learned the over raph.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I learned to call him out.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
I learn to run because everybody just.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Off everything.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
That was one of my.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Responosing men on team.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
After Lon get you talking, I'm the ports box. You
had him ready, You had already they gonna run.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
We need to be read, like Fred, say, over prepared
for this one.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
When you had Jy Grad in your ear. Yeah, you
gotta real lie. He coached.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
He wanted us to be vocal, and Sean not his vocal,
so I was the vocal one.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
So yeah, we made it work.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Oh well, I got one question, man, before we get
off of this, this this topic. And you know about
some of the fast lane receivers.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
What a sus?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Speaking of fast lane, what are some of the guys
that you guys considered the fastest receivers y'all face man like,
like who jumps off the chart?
Speaker 5 (37:49):
For you? Fred?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
When I told you coming out of college, I felt
like you was one of the fastest received.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I told you this before I seen a year.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
But Joey Galloway was a Lamborghini like I remember book.
The first time I played against Joy, he was playing
for the Cowboys, and I always watched people in pre
game because I want to see how you move. I
want to see Some people think I'm just walking out
there to walk just to talk trash.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
I'm really peeping everything.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
And I remember looking at Joy Galloway and I was like,
he's built errow dynamic. He built like an airplane, but
but he more built like a running back from the
waist down. And then I saw him run a gold
route and I seen the quarterback let the ball go.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
He didn't even try to run. He ran right up
under the ball. And I was like, they could be
the fastest human being at the siding my life. I'm
like the fast because he's putting no effort into it.
You know. You look guy come out humping like he's
going he's running.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
But him and Randy, yeah, they put no effort into
getting deep on you. They just got to from point
A to point B and they were slowing down. Plus
both of them had the ability to stop. Like I
never was scared of fast receivers because most of them
can't stop. But those two tell him, y'all had the
ability to stop, and that would make got scary. Fast.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Ain't scary fast and quick, it's scary.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well see since I came out running the four to
three like I was used, thank you?
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Fourth three ain't actually was. But my fastest ever was
for I'm in practice.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I was playing for the Bills and we had just
drafted Lee Evans.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Oh yeah, we could run. I didn't. I didn't know this.
I knew he could run.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I knew he could run, and I could run.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, so we're playing cover too, and they put him
in the slot and he runs a gold ball and
I'm running out. The boy running so fast I had
to put on another gear. I got light headed, but
I got to talk to Joke because you know me,
I was like, man, I thought they said you was fast.
He said, Man, I wasn't really running. He's gonna think
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about it.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Lee could rub y'all had two guys like this at
the Bills, but he had a little good on them.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah, Nate Sam could run, but they had a good
on him. So that was what Nate was more.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Nate's gout was more than off season.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Yeah, he was in your regular you know what I'm saying,
just like Lee was. And yeah, they could run. Y'all
had some dude that could run. But I never forgive
Fred Jackson. I tell you that, I never get Fred that.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, when you ain't come up and make.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
That time, man, listen, I was getting blocked in down
switching gears.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Man, it's time. It's trying to celebrate our dude.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Yeah, sat tired.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
He's going into the morning line Rig of Fame.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, this weekend and gets the right before the Giants game. Well, no,
it'll be a halftime, get the induction. You got your
speech ready back.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I'm still watching your film study here. I study London
was London wasn't long. He wasn't long winding like I thought.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
But the one thing I got from London, he thought
he said thank you to everybody.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
And that's the first in my mind because I'm like,
what could you say? But thank you? Yeah? Yeah, make
sure that everybody knows that i'n appreciative of.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You're gonna be the fifty second, uh person, because there's
players and coaches and other people that being induct that
have been inducted into the Ring of Fame.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Only the fourth wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Oh yes, Gary Clark, Hall.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Of Famer, Art Monk, Charlie Taylor, Charlie Taylor Hall of Famer,
and Gary Clark. Right yeah, Gary Clark, Gary Clark, you
spend ten seasons in Washington, set record for single season record.
That's still receiving yards fourteen eighty three, fourth most one
out of the yard receiving games in franchise history. We're
gonna have to, uh, you hater what I say. Listen,
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we talk about town of being the cowboy Keller, but I.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Do have more touchdowns of all the opponents that I
faced in my career to Giant, I thought it was
a I have more touchdowns against the John.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Was it something about New York because you you was
drafted there and playing in at midlife stadium? Was it?
Think it just happened by chance? Because to be honest
with you, man, you know how like we all get
up to go face areas that we played in or teams.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I never wanted to go to New York no more
to play like, I don't know what it is about me,
bro Like I'm one of them cats.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Once I cut the court from something I don't want
to see it, yea.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
And so going into that stadium playing on the other sideline,
it always brought back memories of New York.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
And you know, some of us petty, you know what
I mean, our own way him.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
I think that I think that was a little petty
in me, like kind of not want to be here,
you know what, I an't want me, you know what
I mean, and necessarily didn't want me.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I know how to think you know happened and everything,
But so it had to happen by chance. And then
I also say, too, what better team to do it on?
That the team my brother played on Yeah, and I
had to.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Giants DB's that kind of brought off the best of
you because you got the DB's like they used to
talk a.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
Lot, went the two wheels. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
It's crazy though, in my career in the NFL, rather
my career, I got three games where I had three touchdowns,
you know what I mean, like touchdowns in that one game.
And two of those times I played against the Giants
for two different teams. Once with the Jets, I had
three against them, and then once here I had three
against them in one game. So it's crazy how ironically
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against those guys I when I didn't show it up
every time.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
But I don't think it was the opponent.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I mean far as the guys who was facing me,
because like I told you, the young tennant't even want
to watch film one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I just getting back into the Ring of Fame stuff, man,
And I know if I I may have mentioned this
to you in the past years past, I was like, man,
you need to be on the ring in.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
The Ring of Fame.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
And every time I would I would look up here
at the Ring of fans, see all them names like, damn,
what kind of ain't I ain't up here? You just
don't know when they You never know when they're gonna
do it. And uh, and I know there's some guys
who played before us that probably should have already been
in there as well.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
But I'm like, man, it's got to get him up here.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
We gotta give him up there.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And then when I heard that you were going in,
I was like, man, I felt like I was going
back here. I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
But what's crazy is you knew way before me.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I did a whole we did a whole damn interview
that they actually you know, recorded and showed me later
they and UH, to be honest with you, man, I
didn't know what to feel. You see what I'm saying, because,
like I said that, if you've been around me long enough,
you understand that. Man, if it things that I can't control,
I don't think about them, you know what I mean? Like,
so when people would bring it up, I'm gonna tell
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your truth A funny story. My two homeboys knew my best,
my best the best homeboys knew and I talked to
these guys every other day, and they talked to each
other and they was talking to you. They had been
known for a month, a couple of weeks or something,
and they been telling me the stories about how they
was talking on the phone, like, man, do you not
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want to talk to him? Because it's like you want to,
You're gonna slip up. And he said, they've been laughing
back and forth about it. But the one homeboy that
got close to kind of mentioning it something about it,
he didn't. He didn't ask me. He asked me, do
I think I belong in the Ring of Fame? And
the ass I gave him, he said, Montana, I almost
cried laughing because I'm like this dude just don't care.
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And so my homeboy bo we I'm driving one day
in the car and we just talking. No guys call
me about Hall of Fame everything, Ring of Fame. They
just bring up debates about people, and I'm like, bro,
I don't care about no damn debate, especially.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
When you did it. Say I'm twenty fifth, I did it.
You know what I'm saying. So he said, man, so
what you thinking about that ring? Though?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Man, you don't think you deserved to be in a
Ring of Fame? And I say, bowl don't worry about
it's coming soon or later. It's gonna come, he said, Bro,
he just he put the phone down like this, dude,
he just don't you know, he just know. Oh you
know what I mean, that's how you are.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
If somebody been around you, that's how they know, that's
who you are. You don't really you ain't ready with
the accolades, but that getting your name immortalized like that, Dude,
you gotta realize, like the first quarter, second quarter gonna
go by, and it halftime, your name gonna be up
there forever. And when you look up there for the
first time, I know, Santana your first name, but when
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you see the full letter word Moss up there and
you got your mom, your dad, your children, your brothers
that all got the same last name, and you representing them,
how's that gonna feed?
Speaker 3 (46:33):
I tell you that that So I'm glad you brought
that up because I just did an interview with Chastity,
you know, and she did the whole breakdown. That's one
of the things she asks, like, what is gonna mean
to you? I say, man, it means to the to
the fans, it means that I was a hell of
for redskin that's why I played fel. That's what the
fans gonna say to me. That's like my thank you
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moment to my parents again, like we every time we
do something well in our career, we accomplished something that
to me, that's always giving back to your mom and
dad showing them you know. You know, man, look man,
you blessed me with this air. You blessed me to
breathe as air. You blessed me to walk, desserve. You
got me here, and this is the least I can do.
But to me, this is the ultimate you know what
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I'm saying, because my mom and dad man, like they
sacrificed everything. You probably would never be known if but
one for me or my brothers.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
But they are because of me and my brothers, and
we are because of them.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, so you know right there, do you hop a
mouse with your kids because they'll be here. You got
an idea who's gonna kind of enjoy that moment the most?
Speaker 5 (47:39):
It be the girl. The girl.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Think, because my oldest daughter, she's she's the one that
will asking me stuff and just like be overly hyped
by any and everything about her dad. Like you know
how you always say the girls don't live on their
dash anyway. My boys, I walk in the room, they'll
be walking out the other door, you know what I mean.
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But my girl, like my oldest daughter, man Snaria, and
all of them, you know, say, c see all of
them has that. You know, they showed me that affection
that you will want from your daughters. But it's something
about Snia. I've always said this, and she's the oldest girl.
It was it's.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
Almost like how I am with my parents.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
She gives me the same kind of energy that I
give to my parents, like they're just they're forever that
person that I'm gonna look up to, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
I get that from her.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Like when I'm walking the room with her, it's like
she's gonna greet me at the door. She's gonna hug me.
She might call me what's up, ugly, but ugly it's
like what's up that? Because I'd be like, you look
like me? But I think Jay gonna she might even
cry because I'm probably gonna bring I'm probably gonna shaw
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the two that's gonna set them off. It's just one
of those things, man, I think the daughters are always
the ones that we.
Speaker 5 (48:57):
Can you know, and they be the ones.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
That if you ever had to wear a pemper, I can't,
I can't trust what saved.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Y'all might say, what man, he got a new number
and put you in the living room, leaving you This
boy got a pamper on that.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
It's time to take a break. After the break we
got Terry le Claude coming up.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
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Speaker 2 (50:14):
Welcome back to the Players Club. As promised, we got
Terry McClain joining us.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Back.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
Alright, man, you had a hell of off season.
Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, how was it?
Speaker 8 (50:28):
It was a crazy sea. I got married and I
went on a honeymoon. I went to Europe for.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
The first time, had my contract situation going on, and
now it's the season.
Speaker 8 (50:41):
So I feel like I ain't really had no time
to like breathe, but like it's been a blessing though,
you know what I mean. Like I try to take
everything in stride and it's good. Just start to be
focusing on football.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
What is that like when you say, okay, having the
season that you had in twenty twenty four and saying, okay,
now I want to jump the broom for sure, and
you know it so much because the women want more,
so more than what we really want to do. We
want to just get married and going by they got
the honeymoon plan.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
They what was that light?
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Because you was on the high already off the season,
what was the light to now be on another most
with her?
Speaker 5 (51:14):
It was?
Speaker 8 (51:15):
It was amazing, honestly, Like she did a great job
of Like I grew up knowing I wanted to be
married one day, but I didn't know what a table
setting looked like hours.
Speaker 5 (51:24):
I don't know how much that joined.
Speaker 8 (51:32):
Sure, but like obviously, at the end of the day,
like my wife is amazing, and at the end of
the day, I wanted her to have the wedding of
her dreams. And the great thing about it is we
had a destination wedding in Mexico, and so we had
a lot of our close family and friends sacrifice their
time and the resource to come out and support us.
(51:54):
And that was the biggest thing, like for people to
be able to see our union before God and just
see how we grown as a couple, because I've known
her for a.
Speaker 5 (52:01):
Really long time and we've grown immensely.
Speaker 8 (52:03):
So she did a great job during the season handling
a whole lot of this stuff I handle kind of like.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
The food and the tastes and stuff.
Speaker 8 (52:09):
I got that part. She did a great job handling everything.
And then when the season was over, it we was
straight into the wedding. So like after Philly, it was
like a week or two and then we was right
into the wedding, you know what I mean. And so
we got married February fifteenth, and it was an amazing ceremony.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
That's what's up if I got to say anything word
that kind of talks to your career. It's trouble shooting,
Like you always find a way to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
You played for the same name that we had on
ow here you played now you play for the command. Yeah,
you with every every storm.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
How does it feel to finally walk into a year
this got promise to it because usually you walk into
a year and it's like, see what we can do?
Speaker 5 (52:52):
Can we figure it out? But now the.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
Pressure is only like people picking you all to like
contend and be a Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 5 (52:58):
How does this feel?
Speaker 8 (53:00):
It feels amazing to come into the season with expectations,
you know, the expectation to try to win the division
and make it back to the playoffs and to try
to win the Super Bowl this year. Like, the expectation
is great if you're a competitor andreat thinking about it.
We surrounded by a lot of coaches and players in
that locker room who are not afraid of those expectations.
And at the same time, like, you just can't assume
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that it's going to be the same as we know
we play ball all the time. Just because we had
a great success last year doesn't equal that we're going
to have that same success this year, and so I
think it's been great to see just the day one
mentality that we've all had going into this season and
the excitement that you know, Washington football is where it.
Speaker 5 (53:40):
Should be, you know, compete for championship.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
You mentioned having success last season as a team. You
personally set the franchise record with thirteen touchdown receptions in
the season, with one hundred yard receiving games, All Pro
(54:06):
Pro Bowl. Then you get married, and then you know
everything else to transpire, but you also have to go
into the offication, like, man, how can I get better
as a player? What was that process like for you
to say, Okay, I've chieved these I've achieved these things,
but I still got other levels I can get to.
Speaker 8 (54:23):
Definitely, I think right after the honeymoon that we went
to like that next week, and I'm getting back off
of you know, the time difference from the Maldi, so
it's like a twelve hour time difference, and I had
to straight down the Florida to start working, you know,
I mean, start working out and working with Tha Go Feed,
my receiver coach that I work with, and working at
bomb Ritos. Just getting my speed and agility, getting my
(54:45):
body back held up, and working on the fine tuning
of my game. And I feel like just being more
sudden in the top of my routes, being able to
be able to run into a route like a pinch route,
a comeback route, routes coming back to the quarterback, and
I don't have to kind of lean or stutter. I
could just drop down into my break and come out
in two or three steps. So I've been really drilling
(55:06):
that over the last off season and continue to just
get better with my body language, you know what I mean,
being able to sell routes with my eyes and my
shoulders and those little nuances. When you get to this
stage of your career going into year seven, there's already
all that film out on you, but there's still little
details that you could get better at that's going to
help you be a season route runner or a season receiver.
Speaker 5 (55:26):
You know.
Speaker 8 (55:27):
And I think one thing that I've really still used
to my advantage is, you know, my speed. I don't
have to run one hundred miles per hour every single route,
like deception is a lot a big part of route running,
you know what I mean, And being able to make
the dB feel like you're going to be running by them,
and then I have that extra gear to be able
to run by them or sell that I'm going to
(55:47):
run by getting this blind spot.
Speaker 5 (55:49):
He got to flip and turn and run and then
I could come back to the quarterback.
Speaker 8 (55:52):
So just little nuanced skills that I've tried to continue
to sharpen in my game is what I did this
off season.
Speaker 4 (55:59):
That's funny you say that because me and Santana I
always go back and forth. Because I said, like, as
a XDB, most receivers got to define in trade, like
they got something that says this is what he does. Well,
this is what I got to take away now when
I say, when I'm studying Terry, you kind of Jerry
Rice is in a way where you don't have a
defining trade. It's nothing clear about your game. It's the
(56:19):
whole sum of the points. And Jerry I always had
this ability. I think they say Jerry ren with a
four or five coming out of nobody ever caught him
from behind. Nobody ever caught him from behind. Do you
feel like you out wanted oversea? Where I haven't got
no defining trade. That makes me harder to check because
I feel like that makes you harder to check.
Speaker 8 (56:37):
One hundred percent. I think I do a lot of
things at a very high level. I think my best
trades are probably tracking the deep ball most of you know,
almost like baseball, Like being able to track it over
both shoulders. That allows me to be able to comfortably
stack DB's and give Jaden, you know, a good area
to throw the football on the outside of the numbers.
Speaker 5 (56:55):
And then tested catches.
Speaker 8 (56:56):
I think winning at the catch point, you know, I
think catesting catches is kind of sometimes gets misconstrued as
all that then you're not getting open.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
Yeah, top of the ball. Who's winning at the catch? Yeah?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (57:09):
When that ball is in the air and it's you
in the dB, who's winning. And I think that's one
of my elite traits. But I think honestly, I do
it all really well. Real deep routes, the middle of
the field, routes, underneath routes.
Speaker 5 (57:21):
I block really.
Speaker 8 (57:22):
Solidly and UH and I make plays when when you
need me to make plays. And I think that's uh
the traits that you want from a receiver. And I
try to continue to be the best leader I can.
If there's one area I feel like I continue want
to improve in is just yards after a catch, you
know what I mean? I think that Yeah, Yeah, I
think I improved on that those last few games this
season with the Detroit play and the Eagles play. But
(57:43):
continue to try to uh you know, create plays after
the catch. I think it's something that I think will
allow my game to continue.
Speaker 5 (57:49):
You get better with it with hand placement.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
I learned stiff, hume more fine and win a defender
get the ball.
Speaker 5 (57:55):
Yeah, definitely. I think it's a it's a feel, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (57:58):
I think I tried to really drill that in practice
where you see me kind of running full speed after
I catch catch the ball because I'm trying to simulate
having to set up that safety or doing a little
uh in out move on a on.
Speaker 5 (58:08):
A dB that's uh at comeback on my hill.
Speaker 8 (58:11):
Yeah, and then having to use a stiff arm as well,
and you know, trying to pick up my feet so
I'm not getting tripped up.
Speaker 5 (58:16):
Okay, Well, I want to ask you before we let
you leave.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
You've been here for the seventh is your seventh seven
And one of the things about being here for a
long time, I had teen years. Yeah, you see so
many guys in and out of that wide receiver room
on your team as a whole. What what are your
kind of like What if the first initially thought you
had when you found out you was going to have
Debo as one of your capadres.
Speaker 8 (58:38):
Yeah, man, Debo is a dog like He's a he's
like minded like with me, you know what I mean.
And I think, like you said, a lot of receivers
have certain traits about them that stand out, and I
think one of the things that stands out about Debo
is his competitive edge and his dog mentality out on
the field. You feel him when he's making plays with
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the ball in his hands. And so you got a
guy like that to bring to your receiver room. He
brings an attitude in an edge that compliments myself knowing the.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
Other guys that we have.
Speaker 8 (59:07):
And he's he's played in some of the biggest games too,
Super Bowls, championship games, and so, uh.
Speaker 5 (59:13):
The moment is not too big for him.
Speaker 8 (59:14):
And to have another guy, you know, who can make
plays when you get the ball in his hands, who's
just a dog in and out, and you know when
we go against those tough teams, he's gonna be standing
front line right with you, you know what I mean.
And that's a guy you want to go to battle with.
And so I've had a lot of respect for him since,
you know, we met back at the Senior Bowl coming
out of college, and just to see how his careers
progressed has been great. And now that he's on our team,
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I think he's gonna really help us this year.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Appreciate it, man, it's been well.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
My last thing buck Eys Texas.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
Did you go? You just watched it here?
Speaker 5 (59:53):
I did go. I went to the game. I was
in the shoes.
Speaker 8 (59:55):
I always be good back, so it was it was
good to see those those His offense always starts a
little slow. We got to bring a new quarterback. Everything's
gonna be good right there. But Matt Patricia is doing
this thing on the defensive side.
Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Of the ball. Them boys is flying around.
Speaker 8 (01:00:08):
So to come out there and make a statement week one, uh,
it is great.
Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
I hate to report the news. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You've been on here plenty of times that you know.
We like to have all our guests autographics football.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
We appreciate you, man.
Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
I appreciate you all too. Man.
Speaker 8 (01:00:29):
Set me on and just support me. You know, there's
not too many O G redskins. Yeah, players, So I'm
just happy to be a part of this.
Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
You hear, yes, you know so.
Speaker 8 (01:00:49):
I said, they're like, you know when you hit thirty,
like you gotta get ready for Social Security.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
And I played I was thirty eight and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I love to hear that. He looked like they cut
you in two.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
We gotta do it for the Clers Club. We'll see
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