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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back into the players Club. We are your hosts.
I'm loved to Fletcher, got my man Bluefoot, shot Springs,
and we got sat tyner Boss aka eight to the nine, Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Killer, Gian Slayer. Yep, yep fell us.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Let's talk about what we got going on Man Weeks episode.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We got a Hall of Fame nominee on set for sure,
and we diving into the West Coast matchup. I guess
your charges. And later on the show we got one
of my favorite conas on the team, Mikey Santa still
join the set.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
All right, it's time to get this show started.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Shout out to my guy man London, Fletcher Man on
getting that Nation Man f definitely worthy.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You know, London shat appreciate.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Second in the tackles Man in the NFL history two
thousand and thirty nine tackles.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
That's the libt to say that with your chest. You
know what he said?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Hey, I just hit my chest. That's how I feel
like I got tackled time. But I haven't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I think one of them. You know, I ain't gonna
talk about that full time. Full time, we ain't talking
about that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
London.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Let let me finish full time Pro Bowl on Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, dangn an fourteen seasons man with one hundred tackles.
I mean when that's production, two hundred and seventeen consecutive starts,
that right there is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Like I trust me, Bro, when when I was on.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Your team as a teammate, and I remember I'm saying
that you hadn't missed the game, Bro, I was like,
you know, I feel some time for me to get
up and go.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Out here as a receiver. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, And this is this stat right here stands out
to me just knowing that you know, we we have
a colleague that we was colleagues, you know, on the
football field with this guy now colleagues over here on
this side of the you know the game, Loney got
twenty three interceptions as a middle line man, I BEI
Fred got.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I don't want to put his business out there.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I don't put his.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Business out there, but if you if you ever want
to share, Fred's moved up.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
All you guys said, man London got more pictures. Ye hey,
he played forever.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So I say all that to say this man.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
As a player, man, and I'm gonna ask a different
kind of question, because you know we can bro I
when I read some of that and I look at
where you're at right now today, and my brain is
back up because I know that we had a discussion
about this on the pregame show last week. No, I
really want to know, because I'm a guy that never
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really cared about it. But I just had to go
talk to Ryan. I'm like, Ryan, you know what, I
might not be a Hall of Famer. I have numbers
that's better than some guys. That's allus. But I understand
how it goes. But I know one thing that I
do get pissed about. It's a lot of nominees that
they getting called and I haven't been nominated yet. And
(02:50):
I got guys who was second and third to me
on the same team that's being nominated.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Why my name ain't been called?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So going back to you, how do you feel knowing
that my number say that I could be the best
are could be the best linebacker they ever played this game?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And having to wait? What what is that feeling like? What?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Man?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
What does that feel like?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
They're about three or four times a year when I
get pissed off, and it's usually so the initial list
comes out and obviously you're gonna get a bunch of
people congratulating you and all this, and so it brings
it back up. And so I'm looking at it like, man,
I should have been in there already, just based on
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what I accomplished on the football field. And then so
you go from the initial list I think it's one
hundred and twenty eight to your semi finals. And two
years ago I was a semi finalist, So I'm like, okay,
I finally advanced to that, to that stage. Then last
year I didn't advance to the finalist stage. At the
semi finalist is to think it's top twenty five guys.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So last year I didn't get there.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I was like head scratching, like, man, what, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Did obviously not to advance to the to the to
the finalists, which is the top fifteen. And that's when
you really get in there and you're able to make
your case. Not me personally, but you're a presenter, you're
representative of your team, makes the case of hey, this
is why what ex player has done and you're competing
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against those other guys and they kind of argue it out, debate,
debate about it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I should say, debate.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
In the room the fifty voters and then determine who
who are the fire to make it. So each phase,
each step, especially over the years that I didn't advance
to that get pissed off. And then they have the
NFL Honors and then you see the guys going, so
I get pissed off again. And then when they had
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the actual ceremony in August, I get pissed off again.
So you know, yeah, those are four times definitely a
year that I'm gonna get pissed off. And I was,
as we talking about on Sunday, when you look at
the game of football and guys that like us three
and then that was on them right between the white
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lines compete, you know what it took Like you knew
who the best receivers were child that you covered, like
you're watching these guys, I knew who the best players were,
position positions, running backs, tied end, whatever, and me like
I know where I right, man, we know.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So it's just frustrated.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's that's one of the reasons why I say I
get it, you know what I mean, I understand where
the ball may lie sometimes for some of us, you know,
don't get me wrong, Like, you know, when I got
into the league. I remember when I got here, and
I remember what the guy name was, JJ something Jefferson,
John Jefferson. Yeh, fabulous wide receiver played in San Diego.
When when the charge of us out in San Diego,
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I thought that he wore goggles and I men always
had these conversations, and he was like, he was like
eighty nine. You know it takes ten thousand just to
get your I ain't mentioned saying that you might have
a chance to.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Go be a be a Hall of Famer one receiver.
You on your way.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And when he told me that I swear on everything,
that's when it finally popped in my head that, oh
I got potential. I might be a Hall of Famer.
But I came into this game clueless of the hall.
I had no clue about what the hall was. I
knew about Pro Bowls because I watched it on TV,
but I never knew it was a hall.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Where guys go for great play.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Here's the I'm glad you brought up Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And that's the one kind of knock that when you
look at my numbers and let's just me and the
other middle linebackers pro bos are where I'm lacking. But
as you all know, pro bols is such a popularity.
I was in Seattle for seven years. I dominated the right.
(06:51):
We were just talking about how one year Sean Sean
you led, you had six sacks as a corner and
six interceptions. It didn't make pro bo wasn't all pro Yeah,
so that's just because our team.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Check check this, check this. Though.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
With that being said, Pro Bowls, even though it's it's
something that they they reward us for individual success, but
then it still feels like we get we get looked
over because half the time, the people that rewarding us
are not the people that should be rewarding us, the
people that's voting for us. You're getting votes from people
that you're like, hold.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
On, man, like fans get.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
They're gonna favor they want to favor it. So with
that being said, you talk about you got four probo,
that's still a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I have one and.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Look and I was okay with that because I feel
like the guys that always win the Pro Bowl, it
was the guy that had the numbers, and when my
numbers was there, I deserve that I had a year
when I had I was second in our division and catchers,
and then I was fourth over all in the whole
NFC in yards and I didn't get one single vote.
But I had years where I was ten and fifteen
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where I was alternate. So I'm like, see this is
where it doesn't know, you know, the math ain't mathing,
so it is crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I'm looking at London's all this wonderful stats. Now the
thing also that matters too, and I think that's in
your favor. I think you might have been on one
of the greatest Super Bowl teams ever.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, but the offense is what gets all the recognition.
But that even though, but that team defense, Okay, okaya.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
About say that team's defense was you know, was amazing
and a lot of people don't talk about how good that that,
how good that defense was those No, No, okay.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, your point, your point, good point, good point.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well you had you had a founder's career, and you know,
needless to say, Man, you're gonna be in there one day.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I appreciate it, and that's on everything. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, let's get to this next set, which is my
favorite fast Lane presented by Easton Automotive Groupe. Any car
anyway for everyone since nineteen eighty eight, This week man,
this week five matchup. Man, you know, we've been hearing
the chirping and and we've been hearing that that guy
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with that number five on his chest, you know, Trendon
saying that he may he may be a part.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Of his offense.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
What do you want to see from the Commander's offense
going up here to l A. I mean when I
look at l A, you know, I kind of scrapped
the game that they had against you know, the Giants,
and I'm you know, I'm one of those guys I
understand like each and every week it's gonna be something new,
whether you win or lose, that that that you can
point at and say, this is why we lost, Well,
this is why we won. I think that team went
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out there and took the Giants. For granted, I also
think that team didn't have enough film on the young quarterback,
so it caused you to come out there and east
coach all that kind of cause that's the cause and effect.
But now we're going to their home and they're very
they're pretty pretty good team. What do we have to
do offensively? And we're gonna get to the other side
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of the bab But what do we have to do
offensively to kind of be in this game or win
this game?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
And when you said a pretty good team we were
talking earlier. You know that defense is legit. I want
to sting there. That defense is very legit. And you
know for us, you know, just like last week in
the landing, we won't harp on that, but we knew
we're going to a hostile environment with a good defense.
It's the same thing on the road, and we talk
about what carries on the road. You got to be
still run the ball. We gotta be able to run
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the ball. It's gonna make a difference with JD five
is out there.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
But let me cut you off.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And because I hear so many people say that we
need to lean on the run all the time. But
if that's not your offensive, m oh, it's not necessarily
to lean on the run.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
It's to me to possess the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know, we have other ways in the game to
make a pass to like a run.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
You know, with a quick game, we're getting ball de
bowl getting a horizontal game, is what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
And you're absolutely right, because.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
On defense like that, you gotta you gotta sustained drops,
you gotta get first downs and stuff like that. And
I think that's really credible, and a lot of it
starts with trying to winning first down. If we can
figure out how to get some positives, you know, three
or four yard all right, whether it's a quick pass
or run to sustained first down like hand of the chain,
don't get third long against the defense like that. So
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my thing is focused on just I really liked that.
My thing is like staying on the field and sustaining drives.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No, when I look at when you think about the Chargers,
the first thing comes to mind is like nationally, you
don't think Herbert.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You think the offense.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
They got the nice rookie running back after rookie ye Keenan, Allen.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Johnson, quin Johnson.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Mcakey, So you don't think about their offense.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
And when I was doing initially doing my prep, that's
where I started.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I was like, Man. Once I did, I was like,
let me go look at these Charges defense. Man. Them
boys play deep.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yes, yeah against the past game they used Derwin James.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yes, he's.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Coming out, Shan he can cover. You can do all
the different things. And then that defensive coordinator Mike Minner
mentor Jesse maybe's Jesse Minner. He's an excellent defensive coordinator.
They do a lot of different things. They run blitzes,
all these different things to where you're gonna have to
be on point. From office standpoint, they don't give up
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a bunch of big plays. You're gonna have to earn
everything you do. So just looking at at that, offensively,
we cannot have a penalty situation penalty issue. Yeah, it's
hard to overcome those on the weekend a week ot basis.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Let's stay ahead of the change.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
No big plays on this It helps if j D
five is gonna be on.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And I think the element of his game.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know, even when you watch what Mariota did for us,
hats off to him, tremendous job and any and every
time he got a chance to start or play for
us since he's been a commander. But I think the
element of JD. You know, just brains are different approach
to defenses when it comes to sticking him or or
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basically defending him.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
But from a receiver standpoint, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Though, do you feel the difference with the quarterback even
though you were you might respect you respect Marcus now
when you started coming like speak on that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So I'm gonna speak on it just from the standpoint
of regardless of who it was at quarterback. If I
had a guy that I was confident in that I
know he's gonna get me the ball, I love catching
his his passes.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Like tell you the truth. When we got in the
game against.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
What's the guy name is that I talk about highly
two thousand and seven when Jason Kemlway down Collins.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I always get brain freeze, bro.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I was so confident in Todd Collins when why because
his balls was catchable. He threw with anticipation and he
gonna go to the open guy because he knows what
his flaws is.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So he getting the ball out quick. He gonna get
you the ball.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And he now didn't have a big like I always
talk about, the veteran quarterbacks will always find for some reason.
I'm not speaking for the wide receiver, but for me,
I always play well with veteran quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
They knew to go to eighty nine. They knew that man,
this guy canna be open for me.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But yeah, bingo, getting to what you asked, do these
guys feel a different way when I think when it
comes down to just if you want a grade quarterback
play from a from a young j D. I think
he's more accurate than most of these quarterbacks out there.
I think he has a lot more juice in them.
You know, when it comes.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
To what you feel, you feel.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think the offense as a whole would feel a
different have a different bounce. But at the same time,
you got to think about it too. You got to
put into the equation of it's still early in the season.
He wasn't at JD five caliber, I can say from
last year in the first couple of games, and then.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
You have a terrible two games, to be fair, meaning.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That he didn't have all this weapons, and he was
still getting back used to you know, everybody is okay,
preseasons old with we barely played. Now we gotta get
used to football again, you know what I mean. So
I'm not I'm not saying nothing about his game at all.
I'm just saying that he was still getting his feet
with with the when the new season because this year two,
you know, year two is a whole different you know,
ball game than year one because people now have a
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little something to go more anticipate from you. So, but
I just say that, you know, yes, everybody should have
a different bounce if he's in there, because the defense
gonna respawn differently and they're gonna have different matchups and
coverages because they want to.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna, uh, your
defensive game player is gonna look totally. Your third down
defense is gonna be totally knowing, knowing what he can
do with exactly so. And I thought Marioda, those two
games he started, Yeah, he gave us a great win.
Those games, won the Radist game. And you know, the
offense put up twenty seven. Offense put up twenty seven
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against a Landa. But just going back and I'm looking
at man, I just look at these Chargers defense man
from a stat line, and uh if what third over
total yards, second is scoring, fifth and past defense rush defense,
they're sixteenth. But they're not giving up a ton of yards.
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Only one hundred and eleven yards per game. That's that's
very respectable. I mean no scoring, I'm sorry, their fourth
and scoring defense. It's on their second only one run
of let's see where they are third down, one run
of twenty yards third down there seventeenth they get they
allowed thirty eight point three percent completion percent. But there are, yeah,
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a lot of top top tier rankings and a lot
of categories, so we all have to be on point offensively.
And I think they do a great death mentor the
defensive cord that he does a great.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Job with the guy speaking about offense, and I'm going
to keep it here for a little while. Debo has
been will standing been more than I mean been all
we look forward to seeing from Debo. What has Debo
meant to our offense and what you think he can
do for this offense is going to l a But when.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You're talking about the run, game is not just handing
the ball off to the running back, but it's also
the horizontal game getting the ball in his hands immediately.
And from a defensive standpoint of view, when you look
at it and say he's a receiver, he's a physical
presence and that and and that's a unique because a
lot of people like not used to running back your
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body the receiver, so that that that that can.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like the hands, Yeah, any.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Guy that you like, he does a little thing like
he can take a five yard hitch or a little
slanting inside and break, you know, yards after the catch.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Is crazy in his physical presence.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Nobody in the back end, most of the defensive backs,
unless you're safety to like to be physical. Most of
the guys in the back end don't want to deal
with a physical guy like that. So he can break.
He's an X factor against a good defense. That's why
I love his game.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
One thing that stood out to me in the game
against the the Falcons, it was a little bit more
vertical stuff for him. Yeah, down the field he had to,
he had the fourth down touchdown, He had a couple
of nice routes, waves his separation at the top of
the routes. It wasn't just the horizontal stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Just sweeping all that because I think people slack on
knowing that he can actually still get down the field.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And some great catch, strong hands and once you once
we truly have all our full compliment of skilled players
on offense, we're really gonna he's gonna even take it
up another notch man.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
One of the things too, man, that we talked about,
you know, off camera.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Something that we saw in Atlanta with our defense that
we just.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We feel like they still getting to know each other,
you know.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And but this is the NFL, and guess what, people
don't wait on you, and they don't feel sorry for you.
And we're going into We're going to l A and
the and this offense can hunt.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
With one thing about Herbert, he's he's a guy that
has a huge arm. He's a he's a massive dude. Yeah,
and he can he can do everything Josh Allen can do.
And a little bit more with that being said, they
have a young guy in the backfield that has that
played lights out right now running.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
The ball pretty well.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
It could be like he's front running conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I say all that and they receive us are just
not cutting nobody, no slack.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You got you got this.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Johnston that's going he can stretch the field. You got
Keenan Allen that's just the savvyest, best, one of the
best veteran round runners in the league. And then you
got mcconachie, like, like, what what do we have to
do defensively to contain I'm gonna say this word again.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Contained this and the mindset of what Jim Harbar brings
to the game with just being physical. Yeah, so you know,
like they got skilled, but they got to fish.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
In another week in a row.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Where you get an offense that's pissed off about what
they didn't against the week prior, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
The one thing they're dealing with a lot of injuries
the offensive The offensive line, they got shoes, we got
They lost their starting left tackle, Rashon Slater before the
season started, Joe aut who was their right tackle to
the left, and he just got injured against the Giants.
(20:18):
I don't think he's gonna play in this game. And
even before he got injured, they still were having.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Some issue down who was filling in for all Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Her uh Herbert had been sacked. He's been sacked already
twelve times. Giants got a lot of pressure on him.
He's been hit a lot, hurt a lot. The offensive
line is where I think line should be able to
dominate that match. That's where that's where we need to
want to get it. Money, we we got it. We
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gotta win in those trenches.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Hapten. That dude can run that ball, big physical guy.
We gonna need four or five guys.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We need bodies around him put it, contain him in
the run game. But from a defensive standpoint, the way
we win this game is our defensive line has to
get pressure.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah. Yeah, sacks and hurries and hits on Justin.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Herbert and front goes with coverage.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We got it.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Like we were talking, we got to be on the
same page.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
We can't give them. We got to be in unison
in the back end. Because Keenan Allen is a household name.
You know, he's he's the ultimate pro. He's been getting
it done. And Quinn Johnson can put his foot in
the ground.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
You know, he got that. He got that foot can
go that way, which way, that way, so you can't
be sleeping on.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Him, right, Yeah, all right, man, it's tied uh reverdition.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
On some charges.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, man, we got some charges memories. Man, just looked
at some of these stats here I had. I was
looking at Tanner. You don't have you played charges five times? Yeah,
nineteen receptions two underd twenty seven receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
On TV one returns.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, that was the playoff.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
That was my That was the year I was All Pro,
first off, first team All Pro as a punt returner.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
That my second year in the league, really my rookie year.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
The league playoffs or so no, so in the playoffs.
I have another receiving touchdown that they didn't record, but.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That was against the Charge. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
This, this actual punt return touchdown was like in week
three or four or four or five in my second
season year it was two thousand and two as a Jet.
I was a Jet then and I had one that
I had ran one back the week prior. I ran
my first punt return against the I believe the Browns,
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and then that was that was week. That was the
next week I went up there San Diego. They was
in San Diego then, and I just told the coach
I was gonna build a house right up there on
the heat. And I caught that. We called it a house.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Called a real house, called myself.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I had.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I played the Charges six times, sixty games, sixty two tackles,
one sack, one force farm.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Did you have to tackle?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Natron? Means I did? Who that was?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
That was you and me hitting each other? Boy, I
can see it now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
That's two rams right there.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I'm trying to think I had thirteen in the game
they tried. Was in when I my first four years
I was in the NFC East. We didn't play them
all the time. I know we played the Chargers in
the preseason, and I don't know if he played.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
That game or not.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
That's why I wanted my starting job. Actually gets Charger.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Who was they back then?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
You think who is that? At one point then it
might have been they tried.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
They also had a couple other guys, but uh yeah,
sixty two tackles, Iverge ten point two a game, and
then but the that.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We gotta get the blue. We got.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
The music on.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Nine games against the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
The boy got five picks, five interceptious, lord, have mercy,
six passes, defense and taking you average? You average to
pick every other game against.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
The man one way? I mean, and he had Ryan Leaf.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I love going down you know sometimes you go down
to a place, man, it's just nice out there. I
want the house saying, yeah, that is your type of area, man,
that is that type of area.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Type of area. Now what was it against? What was it?
Blue able to get him so much?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Well that that mean that a f C West if
people remember, man, we had some good teams and if
you win in the AFC West, like Denver or the Chargers,
there was a good Kansas City, Seattle.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
For those Seattle used to be in the AFC West.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, so I played the nine times we were in
the AFC West before we end up to the NMC
West playing the Rams, and man, those were some hard
for battles.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Man, you had to show up.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
And I tell you, man, one of my favorite players, man,
I tell people to this day, one of the best
receivers I had to check I had to get ready
for it was a guy named Tony Martin.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Man, a lot of people don't even know.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Who downside Miami guy. You know what I'm saying, I ain't.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Touching me yet. I impressed him fifty times.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
That's one of my favorite sivers.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Tony Martin.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
But I just man smooth. But it was one of
those things.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
The weather was good down there. Just went out there
and competed each weeks. Man, and but they always were physical.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Man.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
They had Dan Salamon when I was a rookie.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
They had Junior, one of my resting pieces played pieces
I got Buddy, my boy Buddy was was a monster. Man.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
They always had good players.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Number also to.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Get.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, Rodney Harrison was over there himself. Over there, it
was and you know it's so crazy I think I
believe Rodney getting he getting inducted into their their ring
this year. Probably he is, Yeah, because because they had
a list of guys, they had me Rodney, and I
believe it's with the charges before it's it's with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
They had a list of all of us who was
who was getting inducted this year, and I saw Rodney
name of it was the ball out.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Rodney was the guy.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I give y'all a little story, and this is how
you know, guys in the league know when you're about
to be that guy. Rodney was in his first or
second year with the Patriots. I was in my third season,
but second year of playing. Remember, you know, we all
know the story with that. And I was coming out
in different series like they. Wayne Cerbet started a series
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than Tanner started a series. And that that New England game,
Benny Testaverdy was the quarterback. I'll go, I run a
deep crossing route across the middle. I see Rodney Harrison
he b lining back in them days. You know they
using that right there. They don't care nothing about nothing,
right Rodney don't even he knows it, because I'm pretty
sure you watched the film that day and saw he
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hit me. He took off to hit me so hard
and just didn't care about the ball getting to me
or not. He actually pushed the ball into my chest.
I reached out for the ball and I was trying
to stay away from him and the ball. He hit
the ball first of the ball end up missing my hand,
hit me in the chest, and then I took.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
The hit and he didn't realized he was hitting the mind.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So when I take the hit, whoa, and I spin
off it because I didn't want to go down, just
being one of those kind of guys. I'm a little guy,
so I always got to protect you know who I am.
I spun off it and got like five more yards
and he at the bottom of the pile trying to
like he like you little mother. And Rodney was that
dude like he didn't care. But after that game, Rodney
(28:01):
Ty long time, always up there too. Them boys came
to me and said, hey, hey, young fella, Hey you
that guy in this league.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You that you that guy over here. They need to
start you. I promise you.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
The next week I was starting for the rest of
the season. I bought out that year. I have eleven
hundred yards that year. I didn't make the Pro Bowl.
I was an alternate. Them boys came to me and say,
we voted for you. We saw them in the last
game of the season. Bro, we voted for you. You
you it's the hardest dude. We done faced all these
guys in this division.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
While you you the hardest guy. We got to cover, bro.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You And so I always gave him love because they
thought the world of me. And not only this because
they just liked me, because I really went out and
I always compete against him.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
But he was one of them dudes. You did not
want to be come across this middle man.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Man. That was a going out to San Diego. Man,
that big, that big old stadium. I love playing out there. Bro.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Yeah, that was juniors, junior getting it all. Charge that
damn Simon. But that's the old days. But then the new.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Charge, Drew Drew Brees said, they.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
What was my tight end eight, the boy, the tight
end player, that combination of them three man, they.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Took them down my my fourth year.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The game before the game, my last game of the jail,
we took Drew Brees and Ladanian down in the first
round playoffs. We beat them up there in San Diego,
and they had your boy, Quentin Jam was sticking me.
I had, I had, I had a hundred.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Myself up.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I gotta, I gotta number five pick overall, quin Jam
to my man be.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
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Speaker 1 (30:38):
Welcome back to the Players Club as Thomas. We got
Mikey Cyrus still joining us. Mike, you appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Thank you for having appreciate che got.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Off the snob man.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Got your first interception of the season last week, first
turnover for the team last week.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Had to feel good.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Yeah, felt great. I've been saying it the whole time
in the dB room. Now I was going to be
the first one to catch.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
A pick called you know, I put something on it,
like dinner, Like you get dinner for the first pick up.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
It'll go in the pot towards the dinner, you know
what I'm saying. But it felt good though, Like just
this was the first time where in practice I actually
caught it and it's the same exact play. Caught an
interception on Friday, and that same exact play shut up
on Sunday and you know, interception the same exact way.
Like that was the first time in my football curer
that that has happened to me. So it was good
(31:26):
real quick to that point.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
The crazy thing about it is I would always say
you got to get like five picks and practice before
you get one in the game.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
So as you start to.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
That's why you ain't getting none again. All the balls smooth.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I was a feature guy.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I was always the ball thrown away from But uh,
but like so you're starting to see more and more
that as you start to study the game and get
picks some practice.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
That's good man.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, tell me something.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I remember last year I was talking to you about
just the transition from you learning the position in college,
your last year becoming a hell of a car in college,
and then transition into becoming the hell of a rookie
at the position. But get an audience, get a fans
kind of a sneak peak of what is it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Like because people fail to realize you're out.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
There playing a position where, Bro, you don't have a
chance to kind of be weak at that and you're
steady learning, evolving.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Now you're playing a whole other position.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
How hard has it been this year already out the
gate for you to kind of like you played slot
corner before, but you're in the NFL planer? Now what
was that transition like saying Okay, I was outside all
last year. I dig that deally and DELI inside, but
now I'm inside. You know, particularly you know this year,
what has that transition been.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Like for you?
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Yeah, I'll say, just you know, you kind of got
to shift your focus. I think when you know you're
playing outside, you could play a little bit more patient.
You could read things a little bit more. When you're
inside now, you're part of the rank game, you're part
of motions, You're part of a whole lot more moving parts.
And so like for me naturally, like it's a very
instinctual position, which I think I'm very instinctional player, So
(33:02):
I kind of like I understand why I'm back inside now,
but like the height and awareness that just comes with
that position, Like you have to be on your keys
at all time. You go to communicate to linebackers, communicate
to corners, communicate the safeties, like it's a whole bunch
of different parts that going to play in that position
at a high level. And then these good like the
(33:23):
good quarterbacks often they read safety rotations, but the good
ones now they starting to look at the star position.
Is the outside leverageses the inside leverage, like it's that
coup of four C two is a single high. So
just being able to give those guys different looks as well,
knowing what I'm putting on tape, and then as well,
you have different bodies that go in there. You could
be on a tight end, you could be on a
(33:44):
speed guy, you could be on a quick guy, you
could be on a deep shot guy, Like, you never
know who you're gonna have in there, so just being
ready for whatever comes my way in that position.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah, and then the communication, like you said, it is
so important because you gotta communicate with the linebackers, safeties
and everybody. How has that been You got a young
rookie corner it was in the same position you was
in last year.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Hasn't been working with young guy? And then you got
a veteran a lot of more has that been working with?
Speaker 7 (34:06):
It's been great, guys. I would say that Trey, he
came in right away, just got to work. I think
when you know, you come in at that you know stage,
the first thing you want to do is show that
you're a part of the group. You know what I'm saying, Like, Hey,
I could catch up the speed as fast as I
need to, just so I could get.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Out there and play with y'all.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
And now Marshawn him being back comfortable with him feeling
like himself again. Just you know, he came in during
the middle of the season, so it was a little
bit kind of you have to work on the football side,
you also have to work on building relationships, so it's
kind of tough. A little bit from his you know,
his side, but we've been able to see more of
who he is as a person.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
He's gotten more comfortable with advice in the room. Yeah, exactly,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
So, like it's been good to have him feeling like,
you know, who he's been and as you can see,
he's been performing like that as well. But like I think,
just having those two dynamics we have, you know, a
whole bunch of other veterans in the room, Jay Jones,
Will Harris, we brought in, Like, just having those dynamics
for us younger guys to you know, get the experience
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the wisdom from you know, the older guys in the
room has been huge and it's been a big, big
role for like myself, Trey. You know, even Kawan is
a it's his third year, but he's also.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Forget you got so many young guys, man, that's crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
You get uh?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Tanne was saying, play that Michigan under Jim Harball won
the national championship there he's not a head coach of
the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
What was it like going against him? And do you
still keep in touch with him to this day? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:41):
So it's funny. I'm in a group chat group text
with his parents, Jack and Jackie. We you know from
time to time with sad messages. They're like my grandparents,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
But like coach.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Harball, we've we spoke.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
I don't know how much we spoke this season, like
this current season, but I know we texted in the
off season just hey, what's up, how you doing. I
did send him I got a farm in my backyard.
I did I send him like my chicken coop and stuff,
because when he was at Michigan he had all of
that going.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So just you know, that's that's my guy.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That my guy.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
And then you know the rest of the staff that's
there too, like you know the DC coach, Minner dB coach,
that was my coach. Strength staff, Like it's a whole
bunch of Michigan.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
It's going home this week.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
What was it about Harball?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Though?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I mean I hear so many stories about you know
how he just got that that it you know when
it comes to coaching guys, and you see it already
with Herbert.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
You know, we were just sitting there.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I mean, I can't say weed, but you see the
league kind of had gave up on Herbert at one point,
and Hallball was like, man, I'm trying to get this
guy into the Hall of Fame. But he was so
confident in knowing that what he can do with this guy.
What is it about him that made everybody that he
connected with just have those kind of careers or that's
what they were doing.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
I think when you have a coach that you see
how they go about their business on a daily basis,
someone who works hard, who puts the time and puts
the effort in, it just generates through the rest of
the organization.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
And I think that's what us as players.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
When I was at Michigan, we saw like he was
in the weight room working in college shirts and kakis.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Every single he had, whether he had.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Ris Brays on, whatever, Like he always putting work after practice.
He was out there doing fourth quarter drills with us.
So like when you have that, like, listen, my coach,
I can't let my coach go harder than I am.
And I'm going on you know what I'm saying. So
like he's like he's a he's a tone setter, And
I think that's like me being here seeing how DQ
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goes about things like I love being able to play
for d Q because I know that he puts that
work in and as a player of his, I want
to make sure that I don't let him down in
my process because I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Short, I like hearing that.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Then you hear all the guys talking about how the
d you feeling at a little not here was like right.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Back and right like we embody anybody anywhere, anytime, and
you know, the true BMF like what he says, like
he lives that way and as a leader, you got
to show for it towards who you're leader and we
all feel.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
That right year two, man the transition.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
What is it for you this year to when you
came into the season, Obviously you had a year under
your belt, had a great rookie year.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
What was your expectations what you want to set for
this year for yourself?
Speaker 7 (38:30):
Yeah, I mean the in the off season, my goal
is just to keep training in the right direction, keep
putting you know, good stuff on tape. I want to
be one of the top dbs in this league, and
just what comes with that is being consistent and doing
something different than last year because what worked last year
isn't going to be enough. For this year, so just
finding different ways to just be better and whatever areas
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I need to be better.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Man, it's good man.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
You had a big off season, man, second uh, checking
baby became father for the second time. What's it like
here you got you mentioned the farm.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We got a farm.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Man, you supposed to bought a lot about the farm.
And what's it like being a father? Two time father?
Getting the gauge and having this this whole off season
that you've had off the field.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
Truthfully, I think it like.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
It gives you another level of like manhood, like slash maturity,
like because.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You're very mature already.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Last year, I say, bro, you like somebody daddy, how
well mannered he is everything you carry yourself?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Man, no, no doubt, Man, go ahead and finished broad.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
But now I've loved it, like seeing my two girls,
my older one summer, how fast she's already playing that
big sister, or like she's trying to hug her, kiss her,
hold her like there's been time she's helped me feed
her a little bit and she's only fifteen months.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Yeah, and some of the things she does, it's like,
how do you already know how to do that?
Speaker 7 (40:04):
My wife will remind me is well, it's because the
way we treat her bingo, and she already knows.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
What some of these things feel like.
Speaker 7 (40:13):
And you know, my wife's been great doing you know,
doing stuff at home, taking care of the house while
I'm not home and just being there for me, supporting
what you know I'm doing. And I'm trying to make
sure that I know, look, I can't I can't not
be on my stuff in here because this is going
to take care of what's going on outside of here.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
So we have that good that good uh, that good
team right now. Right future young man.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
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I'm loved to Fletcher, got my man Bluefoot, shot Springs,
and we got sat tyner Boss aka eight to the nine, Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Killer, Gian Slayer. Yep, yep fell us.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Let's talk about what we got going on Man Weeks episode.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We got a Hall of Fame nominee on set for sure,
and we diving into the West Coast matchup. I guess
your charges. And later on the show we got one
of my favorite conas on the team, Mikey Santa still
join the set.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
All right, it's time to get this show started.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Shout out to my guy man London, Fletcher Man on
getting that Nation Man f definitely worthy.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You know, London shat appreciate.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Second in the tackles Man in the NFL history two
thousand and thirty nine tackles.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
That's the libt to say that with your chest. You
know what he said?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Hey, I just hit my chest. That's how I feel
like I got tackled time. But I haven't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I think one of them. You know, I ain't gonna
talk about that full time. Full time, we ain't talking
about that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
London.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Let let me finish full time Pro Bowl on Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, dangn an fourteen seasons man with one hundred tackles.
I mean when that's production, two hundred and seventeen consecutive starts,
that right there is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Like I trust me, Bro, when when I was on.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Your team as a teammate, and I remember I'm saying
that you hadn't missed the game, Bro, I was like,
you know, I feel some time for me to get
up and go.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Out here as a receiver. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, And this is this stat right here stands out
to me just knowing that you know, we we have
a colleague that we was colleagues, you know, on the
football field with this guy now colleagues over here on
this side of the you know the game, Loney got
twenty three interceptions as a middle line man, I BEI
Fred got.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I don't want to put his business out there.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I don't put his.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Business out there, but if you if you ever want
to share, Fred's moved up.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
All you guys said, man London got more pictures. Ye hey,
he played forever.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So I say all that to say this man.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
As a player, man, and I'm gonna ask a different
kind of question, because you know we can bro I
when I read some of that and I look at
where you're at right now today, and my brain is
back up because I know that we had a discussion
about this on the pregame show last week. No, I
really want to know, because I'm a guy that never
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really cared about it. But I just had to go
talk to Ryan. I'm like, Ryan, you know what, I
might not be a Hall of Famer. I have numbers
that's better than some guys. That's allus. But I understand
how it goes. But I know one thing that I
do get pissed about. It's a lot of nominees that
they getting called and I haven't been nominated yet. And
(02:50):
I got guys who was second and third to me
on the same team that's being nominated.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Why my name ain't been called?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So going back to you, how do you feel knowing
that my number say that I could be the best
are could be the best linebacker they ever played this game?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And having to wait? What what is that feeling like? What?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Man?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
What does that feel like?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
They're about three or four times a year when I
get pissed off, and it's usually so the initial list
comes out and obviously you're gonna get a bunch of
people congratulating you and all this, and so it brings
it back up. And so I'm looking at it like, man,
I should have been in there already, just based on
(03:30):
what I accomplished on the football field. And then so
you go from the initial list I think it's one
hundred and twenty eight to your semi finals. And two
years ago I was a semi finalist, So I'm like, okay,
I finally advanced to that, to that stage. Then last
year I didn't advance to the finalist stage. At the
semi finalist is to think it's top twenty five guys.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So last year I didn't get there.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I was like head scratching, like, man, what, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Did obviously not to advance to the to the to
the finalists, which is the top fifteen. And that's when
you really get in there and you're able to make
your case. Not me personally, but you're a presenter, you're
representative of your team, makes the case of hey, this
is why what ex player has done and you're competing
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against those other guys and they kind of argue it out, debate,
debate about it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I should say, debate.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
In the room the fifty voters and then determine who
who are the fire to make it. So each phase,
each step, especially over the years that I didn't advance
to that get pissed off. And then they have the
NFL Honors and then you see the guys going, so
I get pissed off again. And then when they had
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the actual ceremony in August, I get pissed off again.
So you know, yeah, those are four times definitely a
year that I'm gonna get pissed off. And I was,
as we talking about on Sunday, when you look at
the game of football and guys that like us three
and then that was on them right between the white
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lines compete, you know what it took Like you knew
who the best receivers were child that you covered, like
you're watching these guys, I knew who the best players were,
position positions, running backs, tied end, whatever, and me like
I know where I right, man, we know.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So it's just frustrated.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's that's one of the reasons why I say I
get it, you know what I mean, I understand where
the ball may lie sometimes for some of us, you know,
don't get me wrong, Like, you know, when I got
into the league. I remember when I got here, and
I remember what the guy name was, JJ something Jefferson,
John Jefferson. Yeh, fabulous wide receiver played in San Diego.
When when the charge of us out in San Diego,
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I thought that he wore goggles and I men always
had these conversations, and he was like, he was like
eighty nine. You know it takes ten thousand just to
get your I ain't mentioned saying that you might have
a chance to.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Go be a be a Hall of Famer one receiver.
You on your way.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And when he told me that I swear on everything,
that's when it finally popped in my head that, oh
I got potential. I might be a Hall of Famer.
But I came into this game clueless of the hall.
I had no clue about what the hall was. I
knew about Pro Bowls because I watched it on TV,
but I never knew it was a hall.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Where guys go for great play.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Here's the I'm glad you brought up Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And that's the one kind of knock that when you
look at my numbers and let's just me and the
other middle linebackers pro bos are where I'm lacking. But
as you all know, pro bols is such a popularity.
I was in Seattle for seven years. I dominated the right.
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We were just talking about how one year Sean Sean
you led, you had six sacks as a corner and
six interceptions. It didn't make pro bo wasn't all pro Yeah,
so that's just because our team.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Check check this, check this. Though.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
With that being said, Pro Bowls, even though it's it's
something that they they reward us for individual success, but
then it still feels like we get we get looked
over because half the time, the people that rewarding us
are not the people that should be rewarding us, the
people that's voting for us. You're getting votes from people
that you're like, hold.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
On, man, like fans get.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
They're gonna favor they want to favor it. So with
that being said, you talk about you got four probo,
that's still a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I have one and.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Look and I was okay with that because I feel
like the guys that always win the Pro Bowl, it
was the guy that had the numbers, and when my
numbers was there, I deserve that I had a year
when I had I was second in our division and catchers,
and then I was fourth over all in the whole
NFC in yards and I didn't get one single vote.
But I had years where I was ten and fifteen
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where I was alternate. So I'm like, see this is
where it doesn't know, you know, the math ain't mathing,
so it is crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I'm looking at London's all this wonderful stats. Now the
thing also that matters too, and I think that's in
your favor. I think you might have been on one
of the greatest Super Bowl teams ever.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, but the offense is what gets all the recognition.
But that even though, but that team defense, Okay, okaya.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
About say that team's defense was you know, was amazing
and a lot of people don't talk about how good that that,
how good that defense was those No, No, okay.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, your point, your point, good point, good point.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well you had you had a founder's career, and you know,
needless to say, Man, you're gonna be in there one day.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I appreciate it, and that's on everything. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, let's get to this next set, which is my
favorite fast Lane presented by Easton Automotive Groupe. Any car
anyway for everyone since nineteen eighty eight, This week man,
this week five matchup. Man, you know, we've been hearing
the chirping and and we've been hearing that that guy
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with that number five on his chest, you know, Trendon
saying that he may he may be a part.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Of his offense.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
What do you want to see from the Commander's offense
going up here to l A. I mean when I
look at l A, you know, I kind of scrapped
the game that they had against you know, the Giants,
and I'm you know, I'm one of those guys I
understand like each and every week it's gonna be something new,
whether you win or lose, that that that you can
point at and say, this is why we lost, Well,
this is why we won. I think that team went
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out there and took the Giants. For granted, I also
think that team didn't have enough film on the young quarterback,
so it caused you to come out there and east
coach all that kind of cause that's the cause and effect.
But now we're going to their home and they're very
they're pretty pretty good team. What do we have to
do offensively? And we're gonna get to the other side
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of the bab But what do we have to do
offensively to kind of be in this game or win
this game?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
And when you said a pretty good team we were
talking earlier. You know that defense is legit. I want
to sting there. That defense is very legit. And you
know for us, you know, just like last week in
the landing, we won't harp on that, but we knew
we're going to a hostile environment with a good defense.
It's the same thing on the road, and we talk
about what carries on the road. You got to be
still run the ball. We gotta be able to run
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the ball. It's gonna make a difference with JD five
is out there.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
But let me cut you off.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And because I hear so many people say that we
need to lean on the run all the time. But
if that's not your offensive, m oh, it's not necessarily
to lean on the run.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
It's to me to possess the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know, we have other ways in the game to
make a pass to like a run.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
You know, with a quick game, we're getting ball de
bowl getting a horizontal game, is what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
And you're absolutely right, because.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
On defense like that, you gotta you gotta sustained drops,
you gotta get first downs and stuff like that. And
I think that's really credible, and a lot of it
starts with trying to winning first down. If we can
figure out how to get some positives, you know, three
or four yard all right, whether it's a quick pass
or run to sustained first down like hand of the chain,
don't get third long against the defense like that. So
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my thing is focused on just I really liked that.
My thing is like staying on the field and sustaining drives.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No, when I look at when you think about the Chargers,
the first thing comes to mind is like nationally, you
don't think Herbert.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You think the offense.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
They got the nice rookie running back after rookie ye Keenan, Allen.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Johnson, quin Johnson.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Mcakey, So you don't think about their offense.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
And when I was doing initially doing my prep, that's
where I started.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I was like, Man. Once I did, I was like,
let me go look at these Charges defense. Man. Them
boys play deep.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yes, yeah against the past game they used Derwin James.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yes, he's.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Coming out, Shan he can cover. You can do all
the different things. And then that defensive coordinator Mike Minner
mentor Jesse maybe's Jesse Minner. He's an excellent defensive coordinator.
They do a lot of different things. They run blitzes,
all these different things to where you're gonna have to
be on point. From office standpoint, they don't give up
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a bunch of big plays. You're gonna have to earn
everything you do. So just looking at at that, offensively,
we cannot have a penalty situation penalty issue. Yeah, it's
hard to overcome those on the weekend a week ot basis.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Let's stay ahead of the change.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
No big plays on this It helps if j D
five is gonna be on.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And I think the element of his game.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know, even when you watch what Mariota did for us,
hats off to him, tremendous job and any and every
time he got a chance to start or play for
us since he's been a commander. But I think the
element of JD. You know, just brains are different approach
to defenses when it comes to sticking him or or
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basically defending him.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
But from a receiver standpoint, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Though, do you feel the difference with the quarterback even
though you were you might respect you respect Marcus now
when you started coming like speak on that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So I'm gonna speak on it just from the standpoint
of regardless of who it was at quarterback. If I
had a guy that I was confident in that I
know he's gonna get me the ball, I love catching
his his passes.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Like tell you the truth. When we got in the
game against.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
What's the guy name is that I talk about highly
two thousand and seven when Jason Kemlway down Collins.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I always get brain freeze, bro.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I was so confident in Todd Collins when why because
his balls was catchable. He threw with anticipation and he
gonna go to the open guy because he knows what
his flaws is.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So he getting the ball out quick. He gonna get
you the ball.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And he now didn't have a big like I always
talk about, the veteran quarterbacks will always find for some reason.
I'm not speaking for the wide receiver, but for me,
I always play well with veteran quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
They knew to go to eighty nine. They knew that man,
this guy canna be open for me.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But yeah, bingo, getting to what you asked, do these
guys feel a different way when I think when it
comes down to just if you want a grade quarterback
play from a from a young j D. I think
he's more accurate than most of these quarterbacks out there.
I think he has a lot more juice in them.
You know, when it comes.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
To what you feel, you feel.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think the offense as a whole would feel a
different have a different bounce. But at the same time,
you got to think about it too. You got to
put into the equation of it's still early in the season.
He wasn't at JD five caliber, I can say from
last year in the first couple of games, and then.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
You have a terrible two games, to be fair, meaning.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That he didn't have all this weapons, and he was
still getting back used to you know, everybody is okay,
preseasons old with we barely played. Now we gotta get
used to football again, you know what I mean. So
I'm not I'm not saying nothing about his game at all.
I'm just saying that he was still getting his feet
with with the when the new season because this year two,
you know, year two is a whole different you know,
ball game than year one because people now have a
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little something to go more anticipate from you. So, but
I just say that, you know, yes, everybody should have
a different bounce if he's in there, because the defense
gonna respawn differently and they're gonna have different matchups and
coverages because they want to.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna, uh, your
defensive game player is gonna look totally. Your third down
defense is gonna be totally knowing, knowing what he can
do with exactly so. And I thought Marioda, those two
games he started, Yeah, he gave us a great win.
Those games, won the Radist game. And you know, the
offense put up twenty seven. Offense put up twenty seven
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against a Landa. But just going back and I'm looking
at man, I just look at these Chargers defense man
from a stat line, and uh if what third over
total yards, second is scoring, fifth and past defense rush defense,
they're sixteenth. But they're not giving up a ton of yards.
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Only one hundred and eleven yards per game. That's that's
very respectable. I mean no scoring, I'm sorry, their fourth
and scoring defense. It's on their second only one run
of let's see where they are third down, one run
of twenty yards third down there seventeenth they get they
allowed thirty eight point three percent completion percent. But there are, yeah,
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a lot of top top tier rankings and a lot
of categories, so we all have to be on point offensively.
And I think they do a great death mentor the
defensive cord that he does a great.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Job with the guy speaking about offense, and I'm going
to keep it here for a little while. Debo has
been will standing been more than I mean been all
we look forward to seeing from Debo. What has Debo
meant to our offense and what you think he can
do for this offense is going to l a But when.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You're talking about the run, game is not just handing
the ball off to the running back, but it's also
the horizontal game getting the ball in his hands immediately.
And from a defensive standpoint of view, when you look
at it and say he's a receiver, he's a physical
presence and that and and that's a unique because a
lot of people like not used to running back your
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body the receiver, so that that that that can.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like the hands, Yeah, any.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Guy that you like, he does a little thing like
he can take a five yard hitch or a little
slanting inside and break, you know, yards after the catch.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Is crazy in his physical presence.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Nobody in the back end, most of the defensive backs,
unless you're safety to like to be physical. Most of
the guys in the back end don't want to deal
with a physical guy like that. So he can break.
He's an X factor against a good defense. That's why
I love his game.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
One thing that stood out to me in the game
against the the Falcons, it was a little bit more
vertical stuff for him. Yeah, down the field he had to,
he had the fourth down touchdown, He had a couple
of nice routes, waves his separation at the top of
the routes. It wasn't just the horizontal stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Just sweeping all that because I think people slack on
knowing that he can actually still get down the field.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And some great catch, strong hands and once you once
we truly have all our full compliment of skilled players
on offense, we're really gonna he's gonna even take it
up another notch man.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
One of the things too, man, that we talked about,
you know, off camera.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Something that we saw in Atlanta with our defense that
we just.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We feel like they still getting to know each other,
you know.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And but this is the NFL, and guess what, people
don't wait on you, and they don't feel sorry for you.
And we're going into We're going to l A and
the and this offense can hunt.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
With one thing about Herbert, he's he's a guy that
has a huge arm. He's a he's a massive dude. Yeah,
and he can he can do everything Josh Allen can do.
And a little bit more with that being said, they
have a young guy in the backfield that has that
played lights out right now running.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
The ball pretty well.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
It could be like he's front running conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I say all that and they receive us are just
not cutting nobody, no slack.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You got you got this.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Johnston that's going he can stretch the field. You got
Keenan Allen that's just the savvyest, best, one of the
best veteran round runners in the league. And then you
got mcconachie, like, like, what what do we have to
do defensively to contain I'm gonna say this word again.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Contained this and the mindset of what Jim Harbar brings
to the game with just being physical. Yeah, so you know,
like they got skilled, but they got to fish.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
In another week in a row.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Where you get an offense that's pissed off about what
they didn't against the week prior, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
The one thing they're dealing with a lot of injuries
the offensive The offensive line, they got shoes, we got
They lost their starting left tackle, Rashon Slater before the
season started, Joe aut who was their right tackle to
the left, and he just got injured against the Giants.
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I don't think he's gonna play in this game. And
even before he got injured, they still were having.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Some issue down who was filling in for all Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Her uh Herbert had been sacked. He's been sacked already
twelve times. Giants got a lot of pressure on him.
He's been hit a lot, hurt a lot. The offensive
line is where I think line should be able to
dominate that match. That's where that's where we need to
want to get it. Money, we we got it. We
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gotta win in those trenches.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Hapten. That dude can run that ball, big physical guy.
We gonna need four or five guys.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We need bodies around him put it, contain him in
the run game. But from a defensive standpoint, the way
we win this game is our defensive line has to
get pressure.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah. Yeah, sacks and hurries and hits on Justin.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Herbert and front goes with coverage.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We got it.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Like we were talking, we got to be on the
same page.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
We can't give them. We got to be in unison
in the back end. Because Keenan Allen is a household name.
You know, he's he's the ultimate pro. He's been getting
it done. And Quinn Johnson can put his foot in
the ground.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
You know, he got that. He got that foot can
go that way, which way, that way, so you can't
be sleeping on.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Him, right, Yeah, all right, man, it's tied uh reverdition.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
On some charges.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, man, we got some charges memories. Man, just looked
at some of these stats here I had. I was
looking at Tanner. You don't have you played charges five times? Yeah,
nineteen receptions two underd twenty seven receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
On TV one returns.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, that was the playoff.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
That was my That was the year I was All Pro,
first off, first team All Pro as a punt returner.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
That my second year in the league, really my rookie year.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
The league playoffs or so no, so in the playoffs.
I have another receiving touchdown that they didn't record, but.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That was against the Charge. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
This, this actual punt return touchdown was like in week
three or four or four or five in my second
season year it was two thousand and two as a Jet.
I was a Jet then and I had one that
I had ran one back the week prior. I ran
my first punt return against the I believe the Browns,
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and then that was that was week. That was the
next week I went up there San Diego. They was
in San Diego then, and I just told the coach
I was gonna build a house right up there on
the heat. And I caught that. We called it a house.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Called a real house, called myself.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I had.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I played the Charges six times, sixty games, sixty two tackles,
one sack, one force farm.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Did you have to tackle?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Natron? Means I did? Who that was?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
That was you and me hitting each other? Boy, I
can see it now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
That's two rams right there.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I'm trying to think I had thirteen in the game
they tried. Was in when I my first four years
I was in the NFC East. We didn't play them
all the time. I know we played the Chargers in
the preseason, and I don't know if he played.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
That game or not.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
That's why I wanted my starting job. Actually gets Charger.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Who was they back then?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
You think who is that? At one point then it
might have been they tried.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
They also had a couple other guys, but uh yeah,
sixty two tackles, Iverge ten point two a game, and
then but the that.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We gotta get the blue. We got.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
The music on.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Nine games against the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
The boy got five picks, five interceptious, lord, have mercy,
six passes, defense and taking you average? You average to
pick every other game against.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
The man one way? I mean, and he had Ryan Leaf.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I love going down you know sometimes you go down
to a place, man, it's just nice out there. I
want the house saying, yeah, that is your type of area, man,
that is that type of area.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Type of area. Now what was it against? What was it?
Blue able to get him so much?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Well that that mean that a f C West if
people remember, man, we had some good teams and if
you win in the AFC West, like Denver or the Chargers,
there was a good Kansas City, Seattle.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
For those Seattle used to be in the AFC West.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, so I played the nine times we were in
the AFC West before we end up to the NMC
West playing the Rams, and man, those were some hard
for battles.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Man, you had to show up.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
And I tell you, man, one of my favorite players, man,
I tell people to this day, one of the best
receivers I had to check I had to get ready
for it was a guy named Tony Martin.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Man, a lot of people don't even know.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Who downside Miami guy. You know what I'm saying, I ain't.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Touching me yet. I impressed him fifty times.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
That's one of my favorite sivers.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Tony Martin.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
But I just man smooth. But it was one of
those things.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
The weather was good down there. Just went out there
and competed each weeks. Man, and but they always were physical.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Man.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
They had Dan Salamon when I was a rookie.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
They had Junior, one of my resting pieces played pieces
I got Buddy, my boy Buddy was was a monster. Man.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
They always had good players.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Number also to.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Get.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, Rodney Harrison was over there himself. Over there, it
was and you know it's so crazy I think I
believe Rodney getting he getting inducted into their their ring
this year. Probably he is, Yeah, because because they had
a list of guys, they had me Rodney, and I
believe it's with the charges before it's it's with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
They had a list of all of us who was
who was getting inducted this year, and I saw Rodney
name of it was the ball out.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Rodney was the guy.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I give y'all a little story, and this is how
you know, guys in the league know when you're about
to be that guy. Rodney was in his first or
second year with the Patriots. I was in my third season,
but second year of playing. Remember, you know, we all
know the story with that. And I was coming out
in different series like they. Wayne Cerbet started a series
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than Tanner started a series. And that that New England game,
Benny Testaverdy was the quarterback. I'll go, I run a
deep crossing route across the middle. I see Rodney Harrison
he b lining back in them days. You know they
using that right there. They don't care nothing about nothing,
right Rodney don't even he knows it, because I'm pretty
sure you watched the film that day and saw he
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hit me. He took off to hit me so hard
and just didn't care about the ball getting to me
or not. He actually pushed the ball into my chest.
I reached out for the ball and I was trying
to stay away from him and the ball. He hit
the ball first of the ball end up missing my hand,
hit me in the chest, and then I took.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
The hit and he didn't realized he was hitting the mind.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So when I take the hit, whoa, and I spin
off it because I didn't want to go down, just
being one of those kind of guys. I'm a little guy,
so I always got to protect you know who I am.
I spun off it and got like five more yards
and he at the bottom of the pile trying to
like he like you little mother. And Rodney was that
dude like he didn't care. But after that game, Rodney
(28:01):
Ty long time, always up there too. Them boys came
to me and said, hey, hey, young fella, Hey you
that guy in this league.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You that you that guy over here. They need to
start you. I promise you.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
The next week I was starting for the rest of
the season. I bought out that year. I have eleven
hundred yards that year. I didn't make the Pro Bowl.
I was an alternate. Them boys came to me and say,
we voted for you. We saw them in the last
game of the season. Bro, we voted for you. You
you it's the hardest dude. We done faced all these
guys in this division.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
While you you the hardest guy. We got to cover, bro.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You And so I always gave him love because they
thought the world of me. And not only this because
they just liked me, because I really went out and
I always compete against him.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
But he was one of them dudes. You did not
want to be come across this middle man.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Man. That was a going out to San Diego. Man,
that big, that big old stadium. I love playing out there. Bro.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Yeah, that was juniors, junior getting it all. Charge that
damn Simon. But that's the old days. But then the new.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Charge, Drew Drew Brees said, they.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
What was my tight end eight, the boy, the tight
end player, that combination of them three man, they.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Took them down my my fourth year.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The game before the game, my last game of the jail,
we took Drew Brees and Ladanian down in the first
round playoffs. We beat them up there in San Diego,
and they had your boy, Quentin Jam was sticking me.
I had, I had, I had a hundred.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Myself up.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I gotta, I gotta number five pick overall, quin Jam
to my man be.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
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Speaker 1 (30:38):
Welcome back to the Players Club as Thomas. We got
Mikey Cyrus still joining us. Mike, you appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Thank you for having appreciate che got.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Off the snob man.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Got your first interception of the season last week, first
turnover for the team last week.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Had to feel good.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Yeah, felt great. I've been saying it the whole time
in the dB room. Now I was going to be
the first one to catch.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
A pick called you know, I put something on it,
like dinner, Like you get dinner for the first pick up.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
It'll go in the pot towards the dinner, you know
what I'm saying. But it felt good though, Like just
this was the first time where in practice I actually
caught it and it's the same exact play. Caught an
interception on Friday, and that same exact play shut up
on Sunday and you know, interception the same exact way.
Like that was the first time in my football curer
that that has happened to me. So it was good
(31:26):
real quick to that point.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
The crazy thing about it is I would always say
you got to get like five picks and practice before
you get one in the game.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
So as you start to.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
That's why you ain't getting none again. All the balls smooth.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I was a feature guy.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I was always the ball thrown away from But uh,
but like so you're starting to see more and more
that as you start to study the game and get
picks some practice.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
That's good man.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, tell me something.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I remember last year I was talking to you about
just the transition from you learning the position in college,
your last year becoming a hell of a car in college,
and then transition into becoming the hell of a rookie
at the position. But get an audience, get a fans
kind of a sneak peak of what is it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Like because people fail to realize you're out.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
There playing a position where, Bro, you don't have a
chance to kind of be weak at that and you're
steady learning, evolving.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Now you're playing a whole other position.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
How hard has it been this year already out the
gate for you to kind of like you played slot
corner before, but you're in the NFL planer? Now what
was that transition like saying Okay, I was outside all
last year. I dig that deally and DELI inside, but
now I'm inside. You know, particularly you know this year,
what has that transition been.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Like for you?
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Yeah, I'll say, just you know, you kind of got
to shift your focus. I think when you know you're
playing outside, you could play a little bit more patient.
You could read things a little bit more. When you're
inside now, you're part of the rank game, you're part
of motions, You're part of a whole lot more moving parts.
And so like for me naturally, like it's a very
instinctual position, which I think I'm very instinctional player, So
(33:02):
I kind of like I understand why I'm back inside now,
but like the height and awareness that just comes with
that position, Like you have to be on your keys
at all time. You go to communicate to linebackers, communicate
to corners, communicate the safeties, like it's a whole bunch
of different parts that going to play in that position
at a high level. And then these good like the
(33:23):
good quarterbacks often they read safety rotations, but the good
ones now they starting to look at the star position.
Is the outside leverageses the inside leverage, like it's that
coup of four C two is a single high. So
just being able to give those guys different looks as well,
knowing what I'm putting on tape, and then as well,
you have different bodies that go in there. You could
be on a tight end, you could be on a
(33:44):
speed guy, you could be on a quick guy, you
could be on a deep shot guy, Like, you never
know who you're gonna have in there, so just being
ready for whatever comes my way in that position.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah, and then the communication, like you said, it is
so important because you gotta communicate with the linebackers, safeties
and everybody. How has that been You got a young
rookie corner it was in the same position you was
in last year.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Hasn't been working with young guy? And then you got
a veteran a lot of more has that been working with?
Speaker 7 (34:06):
It's been great, guys. I would say that Trey, he
came in right away, just got to work. I think
when you know, you come in at that you know stage,
the first thing you want to do is show that
you're a part of the group. You know what I'm saying, Like, Hey,
I could catch up the speed as fast as I
need to, just so I could get.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Out there and play with y'all.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
And now Marshawn him being back comfortable with him feeling
like himself again. Just you know, he came in during
the middle of the season, so it was a little
bit kind of you have to work on the football side,
you also have to work on building relationships, so it's
kind of tough. A little bit from his you know,
his side, but we've been able to see more of
who he is as a person.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
He's gotten more comfortable with advice in the room. Yeah, exactly,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
So, like it's been good to have him feeling like,
you know, who he's been and as you can see,
he's been performing like that as well. But like I think,
just having those two dynamics we have, you know, a
whole bunch of other veterans in the room, Jay Jones,
Will Harris, we brought in, Like, just having those dynamics
for us younger guys to you know, get the experience
(35:09):
the wisdom from you know, the older guys in the
room has been huge and it's been a big, big
role for like myself, Trey. You know, even Kawan is
a it's his third year, but he's also.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Forget you got so many young guys, man, that's crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
You get uh?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Tanne was saying, play that Michigan under Jim Harball won
the national championship there he's not a head coach of
the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
What was it like going against him? And do you
still keep in touch with him to this day? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:41):
So it's funny. I'm in a group chat group text
with his parents, Jack and Jackie. We you know from
time to time with sad messages. They're like my grandparents,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
But like coach.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Harball, we've we spoke.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
I don't know how much we spoke this season, like
this current season, but I know we texted in the
off season just hey, what's up, how you doing. I
did send him I got a farm in my backyard.
I did I send him like my chicken coop and stuff,
because when he was at Michigan he had all of
that going.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So just you know, that's that's my guy.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That my guy.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
And then you know the rest of the staff that's
there too, like you know the DC coach, Minner dB coach,
that was my coach. Strength staff, Like it's a whole
bunch of Michigan.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
It's going home this week.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
What was it about Harball?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Though?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I mean I hear so many stories about you know
how he just got that that it you know when
it comes to coaching guys, and you see it already
with Herbert.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
You know, we were just sitting there.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I mean, I can't say weed, but you see the
league kind of had gave up on Herbert at one point,
and Hallball was like, man, I'm trying to get this
guy into the Hall of Fame. But he was so
confident in knowing that what he can do with this guy.
What is it about him that made everybody that he
connected with just have those kind of careers or that's
what they were doing.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
I think when you have a coach that you see
how they go about their business on a daily basis,
someone who works hard, who puts the time and puts
the effort in, it just generates through the rest of
the organization.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
And I think that's what us as players.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
When I was at Michigan, we saw like he was
in the weight room working in college shirts and kakis.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Every single he had, whether he had.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Ris Brays on, whatever, Like he always putting work after practice.
He was out there doing fourth quarter drills with us.
So like when you have that, like, listen, my coach,
I can't let my coach go harder than I am.
And I'm going on you know what I'm saying. So
like he's like he's a he's a tone setter, And
I think that's like me being here seeing how DQ
(37:45):
goes about things like I love being able to play
for d Q because I know that he puts that
work in and as a player of his, I want
to make sure that I don't let him down in
my process because I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Short, I like hearing that.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Then you hear all the guys talking about how the
d you feeling at a little not here was like right.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Back and right like we embody anybody anywhere, anytime, and
you know, the true BMF like what he says, like
he lives that way and as a leader, you got
to show for it towards who you're leader and we
all feel.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
That right year two, man the transition.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
What is it for you this year to when you
came into the season, Obviously you had a year under
your belt, had a great rookie year.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
What was your expectations what you want to set for
this year for yourself?
Speaker 7 (38:30):
Yeah, I mean the in the off season, my goal
is just to keep training in the right direction, keep
putting you know, good stuff on tape. I want to
be one of the top dbs in this league, and
just what comes with that is being consistent and doing
something different than last year because what worked last year
isn't going to be enough. For this year, so just
finding different ways to just be better and whatever areas
(38:53):
I need to be better.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Man, it's good man.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
You had a big off season, man, second uh, checking
baby became father for the second time. What's it like
here you got you mentioned the farm.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We got a farm.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Man, you supposed to bought a lot about the farm.
And what's it like being a father? Two time father?
Getting the gauge and having this this whole off season
that you've had off the field.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
Truthfully, I think it like.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
It gives you another level of like manhood, like slash maturity,
like because.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You're very mature already.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Last year, I say, bro, you like somebody daddy, how
well mannered he is everything you carry yourself?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Man, no, no doubt, Man, go ahead and finished broad.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
But now I've loved it, like seeing my two girls,
my older one summer, how fast she's already playing that
big sister, or like she's trying to hug her, kiss her,
hold her like there's been time she's helped me feed
her a little bit and she's only fifteen months.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Yeah, and some of the things she does, it's like,
how do you already know how to do that?
Speaker 7 (40:04):
My wife will remind me is well, it's because the
way we treat her bingo, and she already knows.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
What some of these things feel like.
Speaker 7 (40:13):
And you know, my wife's been great doing you know,
doing stuff at home, taking care of the house while
I'm not home and just being there for me, supporting
what you know I'm doing. And I'm trying to make
sure that I know, look, I can't I can't not
be on my stuff in here because this is going
to take care of what's going on outside of here.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
So we have that good that good uh, that good
team right now. Right future young man.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
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