Commercially Speaking Podcast- Commercial Real Estate Investing That Entertains

Commercially Speaking Podcast- Commercial Real Estate Investing That Entertains

Commercial Real Estate investing has never been so entertaining. Hosted by two brothers, Bo, the eldest, is a CCIM instructor, CRE expert, CEO of Barron Commercial Group and Marine. Timmy, the MUCH younger one, is an improv comedian, award winning actor, and coach with ADHD who, “commercially speaking” is an idiot. With Bo’s gift for teaching, he breaks down complex concepts in a way that’s easy for anyone to understand, while Timmy tests that theory. Whether you’re a seasoned pro, investor, user of space or newbie to the world of Commercial Real Estate, this podcast was made for you!

Episodes

June 24, 2025 105 mins

What’s the real threat to commercial real estate professionals?(Hint: It’s not AI—it’s doing things the way you’ve always done them.)

Michael Hironimus is back, and this time he’s bringing a full-on masterclass in how CRE pros can leverage AI to get ahead—before they get left behind.

In this episode, we cover:🔹 How AI is changing underwriting, proposals, and deal speed🔹 Real-world examples of brokers getting smoked by smarter syste...

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We sat down with Nick Huber—one of the most loved and hated voices in commercial real estate Twitter—and confronted him with his most controversial tweets in our new segment: “Defend That Tweet.”

But this episode isn’t just Twitter drama. We dive deep into:

  • How Nick built a $150M storage empire
  • Why he believes "common things done uncommonly well" is the secret to real wealth
  • How to raise capital without begging
  • What’s wron...
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What happens when you mix AI, hyperlocal intel, and one of the fastest-growing land brokers in Texas? You get Josh Bryan—a CRE pro who turned spreadsheets into a digital map room and land deals into generational wealth.

In this episode, we dive deep into how Josh went from an ad agency guy to what Bo calls “the Bob Knakal of Texas land.” You’ll learn how he’s tracking entitlements, planning for development, and navigating the politi...

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What happens when a husband and wife decide to bet big on each other and on commercial real estate?

In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy sit down with Brent and Amy Miller, the couple behind Synergy Investments, to unpack how they’ve built more than just a successful firm—they’ve built a place people never want to leave.

📈 What You’ll Learn:

  • Why they treat every hire like family—and how that pays off
  • How they bal...
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🏡 What if you could be the developer your hometown has been waiting for?

In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy sit down with Kristi Kandel, a powerhouse real estate developer on a mission to revitalize overlooked communities by empowering locals to lead the change themselves.

From her early days developing Family Dollars across California to building a self-managing company and launching Local Real Estate Developer,...

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📈 2,351 buildings sold. One legendary career. One brand-new book.

In this kickoff to Season 3 of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron are joined by Bob Knakal, the man who's sold more buildings than anyone ever documented—and Rod Santomassimo, his longtime coach and co-author of the new book, Selling Buildings.

This episode is a masterclass in brokerage, relationships, risk, data, leadership, and legacy. You’ll hear:

  • 🔥...
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🎉 100 episodes later… we bring you the woman who started it all: our mom.

In this very special milestone episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy sit down with Jo Barron, the original communicator, a real estate entrepreneur, teacher, ballerina, and matriarch of the Barron family. What starts as a celebration of 100 episodes becomes a heartfelt, hilarious, and often tear-inducing journey through faith, marriage, parenting, st...

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Marketing isn’t magic—it’s just sales at scale. In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy sit down with marketing expert Wes Gay to unpack why most commercial real estate professionals struggle to generate leads—and what to do about it.

From crafting crystal-clear messaging to playing the guide (not the hero), Wes walks brokers through a smarter, simpler way to get real results. You’ll learn:

  • Why flexing on social me...
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🚨 What happens when CRE goes terribly wrong? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy welcome Stuart and Ethan from Lipscomb Restoration to talk floods, fires, mold, and mayhem—and why disaster cleanup is the most overlooked skill in commercial real estate.

From self-storage infernos to basement floods no one saw coming, this episode is packed with real stories of real estate gone wrong—plus insider tips on how to pro...

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🚨 Is industrial real estate on the verge of a major shift? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron welcome back fan-favorite Chad Griffiths for a deep dive into what’s really going on in industrial CRE—from tariffs and trade wars to data center bubbles and global power shifts.

Chad brings his signature mix of humor, insight, and t-shirt-worthy wisdom to explain how tariffs, political chaos, and supply chain un...

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🚨 748 government leases TERMINATED…SO FAR! Elon Musk and the Trump administration’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) are on a mission to cut costs, slash office space, and reshape commercial real estate—but is this the biggest shake-up in CRE history or just political theater?

In this explosive episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with GSA insider-turned-broker Chad Becker to break down:

🔥 Why th...

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Ever wonder how some CRE brokers land six-figure commissions for “doing nothing”—and why that’s not the full story? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with James Milner, CCIM, a commercial broker and CCIM leader, to uncover the reality of commercial real estate brokerage, how the industry really works, and why earning a CCIM designation is a game-changer.

James shares his journey from real estate ...

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Ever wondered how to make the leap from real estate broker to developer? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Blake Richey, CCIM, a former broker turned multifamily developer, to discuss what it takes to build, fund, and scale a development business.

Blake shares the exact steps he took to transition from closing deals for clients to building his own multimillion-dollar properties. From his fir...

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Most CRE brokers follow the big-firm playbook. Sam McVay doesn’t. As the co-founder of McVay Real Estate, Sam has transacted over $14 billion in deals across hospitality, office, retail, and alternative assets. But instead of chasing volume, he’s built a boutique firm that prioritizes relationships over transactions, quality over quantity, and integrity over conflicts of interest.


In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Tim...

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In commercial real estate, Net Operating Income (NOI) is everything—but too many investors get it wrong. In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron deliver a NOI masterclass, breaking down how to calculate it, why it matters, and how to avoid common mistakes that could cost you so many thousands.

You’ll learn not only how to find NOI but how to use it to:

Value properties with confidence using the NOI-to-cap rate...

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Breaking into commercial real estate isn’t easy—especially if you have zero connections. But@RaphaelCollazo did just that, leveraging content creation, networking, and personal branding to build a thriving career in CRE.

In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Rafael to discuss his journey from software consultant to commercial real estate expert, the challenges of starting from scratch, and how h...

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AI is evolving faster than ever, and if you’re not keeping up, you’re falling behind. In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron welcome back AI in CRE expert Michael Hironimus, CCIM, to discuss the game-changing Agenic AI revolution and how it's already transforming commercial real estate.

From AI-powered market analysis to fully automated assistants that can schedule calls, scrape data, and even negotiate d...

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Ready to break barriers and succeed in commercial real estate? In this inspiring episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Renè Nelson, CCIM, to explore her journey from mortgage lending to becoming a multifamily specialist and commercial real estate trailblazer.

Renè shares her insights on mastering the multifamily market, empowering women to step into CRE, and setting bold goals (like her famous bingo ca...

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What if you could invest in commercial real estate without the stress of managing properties or navigating complex markets? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron welcome Brad Ahrens and Rob Powell, partners at Hearthstone Capital, to unveil a revolutionary approach to CRE investing that’s as simple as it is impactful.

From the creation of Hearthstone to the launch of their second fund, Brad and Rob share how...

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How do you turn fearless canvassing into a multi-million-dollar real estate portfolio? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Beth Azor, the “Canvassing Queen,” to explore her remarkable journey in commercial real estate.

Beth shares her secrets to prospecting success, breaking gender barriers in the CRE industry, and building wealth as an investor. With decades of experience as a leasing agent,...

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