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What do Suns owner Mat Ishbia, Elon Musk, and American Water Works have in common (besides being billionaires)? Self-sabotage.

From luxury tax flameouts to the planned demolition of local landmarks, this episode tours the many ways power mismanages potential—and the regular folks who pay the price.

Ryan kicks things off with an early COVID-era flashback that crashes into Jersey’s reemerging lanternfly infestation. Brandon drags us into the impending implosion of the Union Lollipop (aka “The World’s Tallest Water Sphere”)... and things only spiral from there:

🧠 Why helping people in Arizona might get you robbed
 🐘 Lucy the Elephant vs. Elon Musk’s federal defund energy
 🚇 Necrophilia on the NYC subway (yes, really)
 🏢 A $3.8B designer jail in Chinatown
 🗽 Reminder: The Statue of Liberty is in New Jersey—deal with it
 🎙️ Stephen A. Smith 2028 (Brandon says no. Ryan says “send it.”)

And then Ryan drops a handful of monologues—including one of the rawest closers we’ve had yet.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Cold Open
01:15 – Revenge of the Lanternflies
02:25 – Farewell to the Union Lollipop
05:52 – Billionaire Breeder vs. Lucy the Elephant
10:01 – Helicopter Tragedy on the Hudson… or NYC?
12:06 – Morbidness on the Subway is a Common Motif (Viewer Discretion Advised)
16:35 – NYC’s First Designer Prison
18:28 – What About Rikers?
19:42 – Mayor Meme Mourns Many
20:35 – Minimal Grift Moment™
21:04 – Non-Revisionist WAHIs Segment
23:30 – Triple C Gets Double-Crossed by Subtypical Phoenix Goofy
25:59 – The Phoenix Buns Postseason Begins
29:33 – How the 2021 Finals Loss Inspired a Romantic Getaway
31:06 – Chris Paul’s PR Arc
33:19 – WHO Will Be the Next Suns Head Coach?
37:46 – Pistons Getting Pissy With Knicks Fans
39:15 – Purple Politics
41:43 – Errors & Omissions
42:35 – Stephen A. Smith 2028
44:15 – Weekly Anti-Transformational Coach Pep Talk
45:28 – Viewer Comments (TW: Self-harm)
50:10 – Wrap-Up & Final Wisdoms


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SPEAKER_04 (00:00):
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SPEAKER_03 (00:07):
2020 is what, five years ago now?
That's crazy, half a decadesince.

SPEAKER_04 (00:13):
Interesting time to be alive.

SPEAKER_03 (00:15):
It was.
It definitely was.

SPEAKER_04 (00:18):
Honestly, if I could, I would go back to the
day I first came back home fromdeployment.
Social distancing, throwing mybags in my mom's car, just
chilling out at her place fortwo weeks.

(00:39):
If I can go back to that moment,it's too early to get
philosophical, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (00:46):
He's about to take us down memory lane.
Yeah.
In the cold open.

SPEAKER_04 (00:51):
Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 (00:53):
Yo, yo, yo.
Welcome to Concrete Cactusepisode seven.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00):
Took an edible in Jersey.
Woke up in Buckeye sweating.
Out based on a true story.
Don't come for me, D.O.D.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08):
Damn.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10):
Just lock it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11):
I put my hand up and you know it does that camera
shit when you put your hand up.
Yeah, yo, let's get into it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:15):
This is like a reminder of a different time.
Hearing about these sons ofbitches showing up.
They ain't showing up over here.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22):
Yeah.
I'm surprised the

SPEAKER_04 (01:24):
cockroaches survive out here.
These lanternflies were popularbefore the pandemic.
It was like they started inPhilly.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30):
I remember it just being an issue here.

SPEAKER_04 (01:34):
Well,

SPEAKER_03 (01:35):
only two hours

SPEAKER_04 (01:36):
in Philly.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37):
I don't recall anyone else in the country
mentioning these lanternflies.

SPEAKER_04 (01:44):
Apparently, they have been spotted here in
Arizona at one point.
Oh.
They're in Tucson.
Are they really?
They've been found and...
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_03 (02:03):
Whoa.

SPEAKER_04 (02:04):
No, because you know what?
I got to deal with little menstomping on them and playing
with them and shit.
Like, bro, like, that's not...

SPEAKER_03 (02:11):
Apparently, you're also toxic to dogs, so...
Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_04 (02:16):
Exactly.
Dogs got to worry enough aboutlittle men, so, I mean...
Man, it's going to be a summerfor you.

SPEAKER_03 (02:24):
Yeah.
so there's reportings of themtearing down a landmark out here
in jersey have you heard

SPEAKER_04 (02:34):
oh wait hold up you're talking about the um oh
no that's actually out here theoldest talk about in the world's
getting torn down in uhscottsdale

SPEAKER_03 (02:45):
no

SPEAKER_04 (02:46):
Oh, you're talking about the world's tallest water
sphere?
At one point, it was the world's

SPEAKER_03 (02:52):
tallest water sphere?
The world's tallest watersphere, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (02:54):
The

SPEAKER_03 (02:55):
Union Lollipop.
The Union Lollipop.
I never heard that reference,but that's...
That's what I

SPEAKER_04 (02:59):
called it when I...
Anytime it was on the...
Georgia State Parkway going upto Irvington or insert whatever,
North Jersey City here.

SPEAKER_03 (03:08):
Around Route 22.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're planning it.
They're prepping it fordemolition.
And yeah.
Changes the skyline.

SPEAKER_04 (03:18):
Changes the skyline quicker than a...
You know what

SPEAKER_03 (03:20):
I'm gonna call it, that.
I think you can still see it.
The Freedom Tower from...
You know what I'm talking about,right?

SPEAKER_04 (03:27):
You can still see One World Trade from that little
footbridge between Roselle andRoselle Park.

SPEAKER_03 (03:31):
Yeah, there you go, yep.
Yeah?
That's crazy.
It's like a perfect valleythrough trees.
Yep.
And the bridge framing.
And it breaks off and youcould...
There it goes again.
It's...
And it breaks off.
That's your

SPEAKER_04 (03:45):
fault.
Turn that shit off.
It's your fault.
Yeah, he was talking aboutskyscrapers.
Oh, yeah.
We talking about things.
The skylines has been changingout in Jersey and Manhattan for
like 24 years, if you know whatI mean.

SPEAKER_03 (04:02):
The Freedom Tower.
One World Trade.
Yeah, you used to be able to seeit from...
roselle maybe in the

SPEAKER_04 (04:10):
fall in the winter yeah when the leaves are out of
the trees now you can see it

SPEAKER_03 (04:14):
there's a clear valley i thought

SPEAKER_04 (04:15):
they built more like freaking like multi-family
residential houses

SPEAKER_03 (04:20):
well they have they also did that yeah they got a
huge parking garage

SPEAKER_04 (04:26):
i seen that shit i said i was out there i

SPEAKER_03 (04:28):
don't understand the purpose of that but but you're

SPEAKER_04 (04:31):
talking about the footbridge not the footbridge
that little Small car bridgeslash footbridge between Roselle
and Roselle Park.

SPEAKER_03 (04:37):
Yeah, it's between Westfield and First.

SPEAKER_04 (04:39):
Yeah, a lot of people see it as a little fine
hidden gem, considering that wewere like, what, 20, 23 miles
away from that part ofManhattan.
Matter of fact, a lot of peopledon't know this.
We're closer to Staten Islandthan we are to Manhattan.
You can ride your bike acrossthe damn Gothels if you wanted

SPEAKER_03 (04:58):
to

SPEAKER_04 (04:58):
from

SPEAKER_03 (04:59):
Roselle.
I'm not doing that, though.
That sounds insane.
I would not be surprised if weknow someone who's done it.

SPEAKER_04 (05:06):
It's saving like$15 going back and forth.

SPEAKER_03 (05:10):
Port Authority is

SPEAKER_04 (05:11):
the mob, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (05:12):
I think it's more like$19 now.

SPEAKER_04 (05:15):
Damn.

SPEAKER_03 (05:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (05:17):
You know what?
I'd rather pay that than...
Oh, it's another anti-Arizonarant.
That's probably not going to goanywhere.
So as you continue.

SPEAKER_03 (05:28):
But yeah.
Hidden gem, that's cool.
But we're losing the, what'd youcall it?
The union lollipop?

SPEAKER_04 (05:35):
The union lollipop.

SPEAKER_03 (05:37):
Yeah.
Never heard of that.
But why?

SPEAKER_04 (05:39):
Which one of these European developers said, that
shit is whack.
I want that knocked downimmediately.

SPEAKER_03 (05:47):
Immediately.

SPEAKER_04 (05:49):
The same way we got a South African trying to take
money away from Lucy theElephant.

SPEAKER_03 (05:52):
We gonna get into Lucy the Elephant.
We could go into Lucy theElephant right now if you want
to.

SPEAKER_04 (05:56):
Yeah, might as well.
Shit.
Yo, Elon Musk.
Yo, what's your beef with theelephant at the Jersey Shore,
man?
Like, oh, national landmarksdon't deserve to have some
federal money.

SPEAKER_03 (06:07):
Yeah, it's getting out of hand.

SPEAKER_04 (06:09):
Yo, honestly, that would have been a perfect place.
That was probably a list ofthings that I wanted to do with
somebody's daughter.

SPEAKER_03 (06:15):
Let's go to see the elephant.

SPEAKER_04 (06:17):
You can actually sleep.
I think it's like an Airbnb inthere.
Really?
I used to do hella Airbnb's.
Yeah.
Really?
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (06:25):
You're doing B&B's?

SPEAKER_04 (06:27):
If I'm not mistaken, this was back in the year of our
Lord.
This was back in 2020, rightbefore you know what.

SPEAKER_03 (06:36):
But yeah, you asked about why they were getting rid
of the lollipop.

SPEAKER_04 (06:40):
Yeah,

SPEAKER_03 (06:40):
why didn't you get rid of the lollipop?
So it was built in the 60s.
Once was the tallest watersphere in the world.
They decommissioned it in the80s.
So it's been out of commissionfor quite some time.
They've only been using it forthe Antenna Mountain for

(07:01):
telecommunications.
So the owner of it is replacingit with I guess an actual

SPEAKER_04 (07:11):
antenna mask.
Oh, come on.
Eyesore.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (07:16):
The demolition is part of a broader effort to
modernize the area's utilitiesand telecommunications
facilities.

SPEAKER_04 (07:24):
They couldn't just renovate the water tower to be
the world's tallest and likewater spill antenna.
Not

SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
even that.
I mean, I don't, I don't knowhow much of it is actually
interfering with the equipment,but.
Kind of seems like a waste.

SPEAKER_04 (07:41):
Just get rid of that icon, man.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_03 (07:44):
it's just a waste of equipment time and effort and
money.
That's ridiculous, man.
What?

SPEAKER_04 (07:52):
It was a discretionary fund grant from
the government.
Oh,

SPEAKER_03 (07:55):
you're talking about the elephant?

SPEAKER_04 (07:56):
Yeah.
Ayo, Corey, you know what to do,Corey.

SPEAKER_03 (08:00):
It doesn't look like they're going to get rid of it,
though.
It looks like they're just goingto cut into the funding in New
Jersey.
Despite the setbacks, the SaveLucy Committee remains dedicated
to the preservation efforts, andit's exploring state and local
grants, as well as publicfundraising to cover the
restoration costs.

SPEAKER_04 (08:19):
I'm not in favor of the grant being cut, to be
perfectly honest with you, butif that's what they want to do,
it appears to be legal.

SPEAKER_03 (08:29):
There's two things here because maybe it shouldn't
be federally funded.
Maybe it should be state funded.
So it kind of makes sense.
Leave it in the state's hands topreserve it.

SPEAKER_04 (08:42):
Yeah, but isn't this a national landmark?

SPEAKER_03 (08:45):
Is it a national landmark?

SPEAKER_04 (08:47):
Like a UNESCO World Heritage Site or something?

SPEAKER_03 (08:51):
It is.
National Historic Landmark.
Oh.
Since 1976.
I was trying to be funny.
1881 was when it was built.
Yeah, it was crazy.
Oldest surviving roadsideattraction in America.

SPEAKER_04 (09:06):
It was probably the tallest structure in the world
at the time, too.

SPEAKER_03 (09:08):
I wonder what else is on that list of expenses for
national landmarks that, youknow, is questionable.
Nothing questionable about thatelephant.
Half a million dollars?

SPEAKER_04 (09:21):
That's actually a good...
That's actually not a bad deal.
500K.
That's probably part of therenovation when you think about
it, but...
The 500K can go a long way withthis.
I

SPEAKER_03 (09:31):
don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (09:33):
At the end of the day, I mean, I hear Doge and
Elon Musk, and I scrimmaged alittle bit, but it is what it
is.
It isn't like Lucy's going awayanytime soon, you know?
It's not like they took moneyaway from children or cancer
patients or vets.
Or teachers.
Or teachers.

SPEAKER_05 (09:55):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (09:59):
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
This helicopter tragedy.

SPEAKER_04 (10:03):
Anybody done talked about it already.

SPEAKER_03 (10:04):
You want to skip over it?

SPEAKER_04 (10:06):
We used to talk about all the people who said
this happened in New York City,even though it happened on the
Jersey City side of the Hudson.
Let me see if I can look atsomething real quick.
Associated Press said, Clever.
Y'all clever, Associated Press.

(10:26):
The Sun, Ireland, a catastrophichelicopter crash in New York,
Hudson River, may be caused by afailure of critical component.
I mean, they're white Jamaicans.
I tried my best.
Critical component known as theJesus nut.
Anyway, The Sun published anarticle.
I mean, The Sun's a tabloid.
So, I mean, this is no surprisehere.

(10:48):
Seaman's CEO killed in HudsonRiver helicopter crash,
referring to his location as NewYork City.
Whack.
A lot of the press made surethey didn't get caught with
their pants down because theyknew that it was going to be
like saying the Gulf of Mexicois the Gulf of America.

SPEAKER_05 (11:04):
You

SPEAKER_04 (11:05):
know, like, I'm not like I'm proud of it.
But that happened in JerseyCity, Jersey City side of the
Hudson River.

SPEAKER_03 (11:14):
Yeah, the Jersey City side, Hoboken.
Close to Hoboken.

SPEAKER_04 (11:17):
Yeah.
And roughly on the same side ofthe Hudson River that the Statue
of Liberty is in.
Just wanted to put that outthere, too.

UNKNOWN (11:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (11:24):
I see what you did there.
A lot of

SPEAKER_04 (11:27):
people don't know

SPEAKER_03 (11:29):
this, man.
I'm just trying to

SPEAKER_04 (11:30):
spread the wealth.

SPEAKER_03 (11:32):
You need to say that clearly.
The Statue of Liberty is in NewJersey waters.
Oh, you want me to say that?
You

SPEAKER_04 (11:38):
want me to code switch?
Yeah.
The Statue of Liberty is in NewJersey waters.
Even though the New York claimsthe little circle of land around
it.

SPEAKER_03 (11:52):
Maybe, though.

SPEAKER_04 (11:54):
This is short for the map.
It's a little too tiny.
But trust me, it's there.
It's in Jersey Waters.

SPEAKER_03 (12:00):
That's how I check.
We the one with Liberty StatePark.

SPEAKER_04 (12:03):
But anyway, what else we got going on?
Unless you want to talk aboutthe guys having a sex if a
corpse.
Actually, no.
We got some stuff to talk abouthere.

SPEAKER_03 (12:12):
That is insane, bro.
The fact that you're doing itwith a corpse is insane.
But doing it on the New YorkCity subway is like 100,000
times worse.

SPEAKER_04 (12:21):
I...
Honestly, I've heard a lot ofcraziness happening.
I almost saw this guy try to offhimself on the New York City
subway one time.
It was somewhere in the Heightssomewhere.
Me and a previous romanticpartner of mine were just
waiting for the train.
We were trying to go northbound.
And bro, he was just yapping.
And he just sat on the track.

(12:42):
And I was like, yo, this isgoing to go well.
I'm like, yo, what the fuck?
What the fuck are you doing?
What the fuck?
And that's the train coming.

UNKNOWN (12:50):
It's like...

SPEAKER_04 (12:52):
And then like, I just like had to close my arms.
It was like, and I looked up.
I looked at my girl.
I'm like, yo, well, how can youjust stand there and stare at
that shit?
Like what the?

SPEAKER_03 (13:02):
Oh, she was watching the whole time.

SPEAKER_04 (13:04):
Yeah, she was spectating.
Obviously, that's probably thewildest thing I've seen on this
subway, to be quite frank.
And looking back at that now,knowing what I know and dealing
with what I had to deal with inlife.
I'd sit there like I had a bowlof popcorn too.
I would have been like, hey man,he's out of his misery, man.

(13:25):
Cause life can be miserable asfuck.
Better man than me, cause damn.
Takes a lot of bravery.
Takes a lot of bravery.
Puts yourself in that situationlike that.
Anyway, back to what we weretalking about.
Sex with cadavers.

SPEAKER_03 (13:45):
The corpse on the subway.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_04 (13:49):
who claps cheese for corpse?

SPEAKER_03 (13:53):
Wait, so time out.
Didn't that

SPEAKER_04 (13:54):
happen on wrestling one time?

SPEAKER_03 (13:56):
Time out, time out, time out, time out.

SPEAKER_04 (13:58):
Wait, no, the guy who performed the act is a male.

SPEAKER_03 (14:02):
It was two males.

SPEAKER_04 (14:04):
Oh, wow.
That's...
I don't know how.
I don't know how, but...

SPEAKER_03 (14:10):
You want me to get into the overview of everything?
You want to talk about it?

SPEAKER_04 (14:13):
Nah, man.
You

SPEAKER_03 (14:18):
know.
This happened earlier thismonth.

SPEAKER_04 (14:21):
I was on April Fool's Day or

SPEAKER_03 (14:23):
some shit.
It was the week after AprilFool's.
Upbound R train at 8 p.m.
is when the man boarded.
Later found deceased fromnatural causes supposedly at
10.45 p.m.
A woman was seen stealingproperty from the unresponsive
man.
At 11.45 p.m., an hour later,after the woman took stuff from

(14:47):
the guy, a male suspect engagedin sexual acts with the corpse.
Both incidents were captured onsurveillance footage.
Now, get this, because, youknow, New York don't really like
L.A.
The male suspect is described aswearing a blue L.A.

(15:07):
Dodgers cap.
Uh, usual suspects.
Big jacket, yellow hoodie.
Blue jeans, white sneakers,blah, blah, blah.
But

SPEAKER_04 (15:18):
yeah,

SPEAKER_03 (15:19):
it's insane, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (15:20):
They caught him?
Apparently.
Of course they didn't catch him.
It's New York subway.

SPEAKER_03 (15:25):
Homie was dead for a minute before anything.
Yeah, everybody

SPEAKER_04 (15:29):
noticed.

SPEAKER_03 (15:30):
He was dead, supposedly, and the lady went
through his pockets and tooksomething.
And then an hour later, this guycomes in and does, you know,
Sexual acts.
That's insane.
They had a clear picture of thisguy, though.

SPEAKER_04 (15:46):
Clear picture of this guy,

SPEAKER_03 (15:48):
yeah.
Yo, at this point, becausethey're not going to put cops in
all of the trains.
They're going to tell your boyto put them robots in there.
You're going to get robocops inthe hat and boarded on all of
the trains for public safety.
Only thing before that happens.

SPEAKER_04 (16:06):
Everything going on in the subway like this.
Courtesy of Sean P.
McDuffie, letting his voice beknown.
Oh, Bro actually ended up ridingthe subway, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 (16:17):
Really?

SPEAKER_04 (16:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (16:20):
Well, we said it before he did it.

SPEAKER_04 (16:22):
Yeah, we called it.
And then we dropped the episodethe day of.

SPEAKER_05 (16:25):
Free

SPEAKER_04 (16:29):
City Subway is the biggest experiment in America
right now, yo.
Ain't no way around it, man.
Wanna talk about...
The

SPEAKER_03 (16:37):
jail in Chinatown?

UNKNOWN (16:39):
No.

SPEAKER_04 (16:39):
Why they got a jail in Chinatown?

SPEAKER_03 (16:42):
They're building a prison, a new jail in
Manhattan's Chinatown.
Facility is being built at124-125 White Street, replacing
the former detention complexknown as the Tombs.
This is part of the city's planto replace Rikers Island with
small borough-based jails.
Didn't know they were planningthat either.

SPEAKER_04 (17:02):
What's this, Philly or something?
You know about the Eastern StatePenitentiary that's out there in
the middle of like Philly?
East Philly?

SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
By where Temple's at?
Nope.
Don't they do, what you call itthere?

SPEAKER_04 (17:16):
Little Halloween spectaculars and shit?

SPEAKER_03 (17:18):
Yeah, yeah.
But get this, the building, thejail is supposed to be 16
stories, 295 feet tall, makingit one of the tallest
correctional facilitiesglobally.
There's a glass facade, alandscape plaza, and community
spaces on the lower floors.
with detention facilities above.

(17:40):
Estimated to be$1.7 billion, theproject cost has escalated to
nearly$3.8 billion now.
They aim to close Rikers by2027, but this facility's
supposed to be completed around2032.
I mean, at least it's gonna looknice.

(18:00):
You're not gonna be able toreally tell it's a prison, I
guess, other than all thecorrection, the correction buses
and Yeah.
I think the more interestingpart is that they're shutting
down Rikers.
Did not know they were trying

SPEAKER_04 (18:14):
to do that.
Yo, it's taking forever to shutthat thing.
They're trying to shut thatthing down from like, damn, like
a millennium at this point.
I

SPEAKER_03 (18:24):
guess it'd been a minute.
Yeah, it's been a minute.
Makes you wonder what they'regoing to do with Rikers.

SPEAKER_04 (18:30):
They're about to make it a museum, some tourist
attraction or something.

SPEAKER_03 (18:33):
They're going to make that shit into housing.
This is going to be housing.
They might just do that, too.
They're going to level it anduse it for festivals.

SPEAKER_04 (18:46):
Yo, that'd be a perfect spot for festivals.
Here's the problem, though.
You got to take a boat there,right?

SPEAKER_03 (18:52):
Yeah.
Well, there is one road in andone road out.

SPEAKER_04 (18:56):
That ain't going to work for festivals.

SPEAKER_03 (18:57):
It's not.
Unless

SPEAKER_04 (18:59):
they make you walk that damn road.

SPEAKER_03 (19:01):
We all

SPEAKER_04 (19:02):
know Governor's Ball didn't last too long on
Governor's Island.

SPEAKER_03 (19:05):
They're going to build the next Yankee Stadium on
there.
You're going to have to walkacross the bridge like PNC Park.

SPEAKER_04 (19:13):
Nah, I ain't going to do that.
That means that...
It was like...
Putting, like, a base of sportsarena or a sports venue in New
York City is, like, the mostcontroversial thing you can
think of.
It's more controversial thanputting a prison in the middle
of Manhattan, bro.
That ain't happening anytimesoon.

SPEAKER_03 (19:32):
They're not moving.
I know they're not moving, Ed.
Especially because it's removingthem from the Bronx.
Mm-hmm.
What else we got coming out ofcrazy news in New York?
Your man's mayor meme has founda way to escape the political
waters in the U.S.,

SPEAKER_04 (19:49):
and he found an alibi to get out of town.
Yeah, he was out in the DRcelebrating his fellow brothers
and sisters.
My fellow brothers and sisters,if you know what I mean, I
guess.
200 and some odd souls lost in anightclub collapse.
Some MLB, former MLB players and

SPEAKER_03 (20:13):
some

SPEAKER_04 (20:13):
of Pedro Martinez's family members were involved
somehow.

SPEAKER_03 (20:17):
Was there more than one?

SPEAKER_04 (20:19):
Yeah, it was Octavio Jotel and Tony Blanco.

SPEAKER_03 (20:22):
Oh, I thought there was one.

SPEAKER_04 (20:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (20:24):
Time out.
Merengue

SPEAKER_04 (20:25):
singer Ruby Perez.

SPEAKER_03 (20:27):
Since we're talking about DR right now, Soto just
hit another home run.
That's back-to-back two games ina row.
I just wanted

SPEAKER_04 (20:35):
to...
Yeah.
Look at us talking aboutsomething that happened.
She busy grifting on theinternet.

SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
All right.
Grifting on the internet.
Grifting on the internet.
We ain't really into

SPEAKER_04 (20:51):
that.
Yo, we are minimal.
We are a minimal grift, bro.
We are minimal grift.
Our grift is minimal because youknow what?
We ain't perfect.
Every now and then we might slipjust a little bit.
Not too much.
Just a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 (21:02):
I've fallen.
But I got back up.

SPEAKER_04 (21:06):
The Dominican Republic, right?
Yeah.
A lot of people don't noticeabout New York and DR.
DR, like...
Washington Heights, just NewYork City alone, is literally
the biggest population ofDominicans outside of the
Dominican Republic.
Just that neighborhood alone.

(21:26):
Like, this is probably the worstthing that has happened to that
community since that planecrash.
It happened a month or two after9-11, that American Airlines
plane that was going to DR.

SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
Uh...
I don't even remember.
I mean, I'm big on history.
I like history.
History was actually my favoritesubject in high

SPEAKER_04 (21:51):
school.
Honestly, history was myfavorite subject growing up.
I literally watched nothing but9-11 documentaries.
The weirdo I was.
That's probably why I'm used toseeing dead people.
Actually, it was November 12th.
So basically, this was the worstthing that has happened in the
Washington Heights communitysince literally...

(22:13):
America Airlines 587 thatcrashed two months and a day
after 9-11.
That is a tight-knit community.
Literally, that neighborhood islike Jersey.
I'm going to tell you why.
When I was working at thatsports arena in North Jersey by
the Mega Mall that's out therenow, I was an IT technician.

(22:38):
That was my dream job.
And...
The person that I succeeded wasactually a Dominican lady who
happened to have lived a blockor two from my ex.
And I knew that because my bossat the time would cross the
bridge to get her home.

(22:58):
I'm like, yo, that's some bossshit, bro.
Like, wants me to make some goodmoney.
Dude, that's shit.
Crossing the bridge for one ofyour employees and shit.
She lived on like one.

SPEAKER_05 (23:07):
And

SPEAKER_04 (23:07):
my ex was on one.
I was like, yo, that is crazy.
Probably why you probablypassing each other at the.
It's a small community, bro.
Both of the people out there,yo.
I miss it out there.
I

SPEAKER_03 (23:21):
feel like you make this statement every episode.

SPEAKER_04 (23:25):
I miss everything about New York and New Jersey
and Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_03 (23:28):
And with that, let's move into Prickly Passes.

SPEAKER_04 (23:31):
So, apparently, Tenny Segudo, he's a UFC
fighter, former Bantamweightchampion, if I'm not mistaken.
fought the likes of Bogonowskiand the Jamaican dude, Altman
Sterling.
This dude got too much moneyjust to be living in suburban
Phoenix, honestly, suburbanuptown Phoenix.

SPEAKER_03 (23:53):
I mean, what's his gym is out there?

SPEAKER_04 (23:54):
He probably got a gym out here.
I wouldn't be surprised, butyeah.
One of his safe houses, Isuppose, got robbed.
Somebody came into his house andtook one of his belts.

SPEAKER_03 (24:05):
Wait, wait, wait.
It wasn't the actual belt?
It was a replica?

UNKNOWN (24:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (24:08):
I think every UFC champion gets their own belt
because you notice how sometimesthey customize the belts.
Yeah.
Like when Ultiman Sterling was aBaltimore champion, he had the
Jamaican flags on the side andshit.
Like, yeah.
You defend it once, you earn aruby or an extra belt, depending
on the UFC era.
And you lose in the next fight,UFC just gives him a fresh belt.

(24:33):
So, yeah, his actual belt wasstolen.
yikes safe house in suburbanuptown phoenix see why i hate
this place in the nicest placesin the area it'd be the nicest
decentest part of the metro areabro like it could be like a nice
little gated community peoplestill get robbed over there it's

(24:54):
like oh bullshit happening youknow what's crazy too this man
and this is the thing i hate somuch about living out here you
could be like you could dosomething like out of the
kindness of your heart and stillsuffer from it because not too
long before that happened he wasa good samaritan who stopped a
drunk driver from running awayfrom the police after getting
caught drinking and driving andshit yeah so who knows mate they
might be related they might beaffiliated but it just goes to

(25:17):
show that even if you try to dothe right thing out here it's
the wrong thing man you'llsuffer man i don't want to help
nobody out here no more don'tstay alive man

SPEAKER_03 (25:28):
you're having me hitting the quiet laugh
Honestly,

SPEAKER_04 (25:33):
I'm trying to die in a plane crash or from my
country.
I ain't about to die because Istopped some guy from hitting
somebody.
I stopped some guy fromassaulting a girl at the

SPEAKER_03 (25:45):
Randy's Donuts or something, bro.
What is good with you and dyingin planes, bro?
Quick and easy.
You're literally splat.
If I die in

SPEAKER_04 (25:55):
a war, I'm a mortar.

SPEAKER_03 (25:59):
All right.
I don't know where this will go.
Let's talk about your sons.
Let's talk about your sons, youguys.
I

SPEAKER_04 (26:06):
only got one kid.

SPEAKER_03 (26:07):
No, no, no, no, no.
Let's talk about your Phoenixsons.

SPEAKER_04 (26:10):
Oh, man.

SPEAKER_03 (26:17):
You're disappointing sons.
The sons that disappoint

SPEAKER_04 (26:22):
you.
Yo, that team is something else,bro.
Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_03 (26:25):
Yo, man.
Yo.
How do you spend the

SPEAKER_04 (26:28):
most money in the NBA?
And still be like the first orsecond team knocked out, not
even the first, second, third,the first team knocked out of
the playoffs, man.
Like, yo, Matt Ishbia, bro, youwas, spoke a little bit too much
of that ganja, bro.
Like, damn, man.
He probably is.
It's better cocaine because youever see him in his press
conferences, this dude be likehyper, just talking like this

(26:50):
all the time.
Like, this dude is so excited,bro.
Like, I might say he's ruiningthe team, but for somebody who's
like, very likable but at thesame time very what the that guy
man he does it really well butyou know why why he's popular
i'm gonna tell you why he'spopular because the last guy who

(27:10):
ran the suns that guy wasn'tpopular he spent no money dude
was low-key racist but you knowwhat though they did build that
2021 team because the last greatteam that they had was six nine
sons in the 94 596 Suns.
Whenever Sunsville was playingagainst Michael Jordan and
Charles Barkley on that team,every 20 to 30 years, the Suns,

(27:31):
they want to actually play.
They actually want to look good.
I'm not coming to see achampionship run until I'm a
grandfather at

SPEAKER_03 (27:43):
best.
Results of the seasons for thelast five years for the

SPEAKER_04 (27:51):
Suns.

SPEAKER_03 (27:53):
2021 finals.
2022, they lost in thesemifinals in the West.
2023, they lost again in thesemifinals.
2024, they got knocked out inthe first round.

SPEAKER_04 (28:10):
2025, they didn't even make the play-in.

SPEAKER_03 (28:16):
Completely missed the playoffs and the play-in.
Do you remember what BradleyBeal's comments were the other
day?
He said something like realcontroversial.

SPEAKER_04 (28:29):
Him just existing is controversial, man.
It was after they lost to theWarriors.
I just keep my head up and justkeep it moving, bro.
Because he was the biggest wasteof money in Phoenix Suns
history.
Not the biggest waste of moneyin Phoenix Suns history,
perhaps.
I'm not going to say DeAndreAyton was a waste of money.
He was to a degree.

SPEAKER_03 (28:45):
I think you can say DeAndre Ayton was a waste of
money.
I made it to the finals withhim.

SPEAKER_04 (28:49):
that is true

SPEAKER_03 (28:53):
so as of right now

SPEAKER_04 (28:54):
his attitude man like he's West Indian bro like I
saw that shit from a mile awayman like I remember one time I
called in a radio station I waslike yo I'm Jamaican DeAndre in
that's like all my people broI'm not even surprised he acts
the way he does it's wherepeople are just going crazy and
bonkers about it but hey youguys just picked up Grayson
Allen and you guys talk wordabout attitudes and shit really

(29:16):
really but you know GraysonAllen did great that season
though So I'm not even going toclown that.
I can't clown that dude.
But I don't know about thisseason.
You know what?
It was the kid.
The kid definitely slowed himdown a bit.
That's what happens when youhave a

SPEAKER_03 (29:29):
kid.
Oh, y'all lost to the Bucks.
That's who y'all lost to.

SPEAKER_04 (29:33):
Yeah, that's when I went to Milwaukee and ended up
with that other

SPEAKER_03 (29:37):
individual.
Did not know those two wereconnected.

SPEAKER_04 (29:40):
What?
The Milwaukee and the Suns?
Or the relationship?
Mm-hmm.
So this is what happened.
I'll make a long story short.
That girl that I went toMilwaukee with from back out
east, we knew each other for aminute.
Never really shot the shit orwhatever because I obviously had
my own thing going on and shehad her own thing going on.
And then the situation thatbrought me out here would

(30:03):
happen.
Then we kind of sort of clickedbecause she was a caregiver to
her younger brother who'sautistic.
And me having the child recentlydiagnosed autistic at the time,
it was like, oh, wow, we feeleach other.
We found each other and shit.
And then we were like, yo, weshould have our first date one
week getaway to Milwaukee.
It's like, why Milwaukee?

(30:24):
I've never been to Milwaukee,but that shit's been my head up
to the last like some odd monthsbecause them sons.
And you know what?
It's like, And I was alsolearning a lot about German
culture at the time because Iwas invited to a wedding in
Germany that next spring andshit.
So it was like everything justfell into place.

SPEAKER_03 (30:43):
Yeah, I think I remember that.

SPEAKER_04 (30:45):
Yeah, that was a pretty dope experience.
Wow, that

SPEAKER_03 (30:47):
was a long time ago.

SPEAKER_04 (30:49):
Yeah, 2021.
Yo, life just went crazy after2021 for me.

SPEAKER_03 (30:55):
Life went crazy after COVID.

SPEAKER_04 (30:58):
That was a good time, though.
She probably all right.

SPEAKER_03 (31:00):
You want us to talk about...
Well, you mentioned...
better situations.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_04 (31:06):
Chris Paul, man.
He almost got a ring with us.
He almost started with y'all.

SPEAKER_03 (31:14):
No.
I think that was a terribletrade that we made for Chris
Paul.
That should have never happened.

SPEAKER_04 (31:20):
Goes back to Matt Ispia.
That dude is like Trump.
People have short-term memoryloss for this man because he's
such a likable dude to manypeople.
Magic word, to many people, noteverybody.
But Matt Ishbia compared toTrump, probably more popular
than Trump.
But they got the same charm, thesame delight.
They make really irrationaldecisions.
But people tend to forget theyexist or whatever, man.

(31:41):
It's like the billionaire effectof some bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 (31:44):
You know what Chris Paul's numbers were for this
season?

SPEAKER_04 (31:47):
No.
I'm pretty sure they were betterthan what he was doing at Golden
State last year in Phoenix.

SPEAKER_03 (31:53):
Let's see.
I do always have a

SPEAKER_04 (31:54):
busted wrist and shit, huh?

SPEAKER_03 (31:56):
I

SPEAKER_04 (31:57):
wonder how many games.
Matter of fact, the real numberthat matters, the real stack
that matters is how many gamesis Scott Foster referee with
Chris Paul playing this season.
That's the real number we got totalk about.

SPEAKER_03 (32:08):
When was the last time he was on Phoenix?
2023, right?

SPEAKER_04 (32:10):
2022, 2023.
Because then he was 23, 24 fory'all.
He only had one season withy'all.
Still know why y'all traded forhim.

SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
No, we were trying to get rid of Jordan Poole
because of that altercation withDraymond Green.
We needed another six man, likean actual six man that could
score, not playmaker.
I don't understand why they didthat.
So here we go.
In 2022, 2023, he played 59games for the Suns.
The next season, he played 58games for the Warriors.

(32:42):
And this past, well, this seasonthat just ended, he did 82 games
with the Spurs.

SPEAKER_04 (32:49):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (32:50):
Last game he's

SPEAKER_04 (32:51):
played in like, what, five some odd years?
It's been a minute.

SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
So he played every single game.
Minutes kind of stayedrelatively the same.
He played 28 minutes on theaverage per game.
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 (33:04):
That's just another Suns 2021 team alumni member.
Having another good season withanother team that you should
have never moved on to.
But Matt Ishbia, bruh, I did notforget.
I did not forget, bro.
Why?
Bringing all the coaches thaty'all have lost against either
directly or indirectly.
Try to get y'all to win a damnchampionship.

(33:27):
Frank Vogel, he bought an oldboy from the Practical Jokers.
Then he basically, y'all did aMake-A-Wish for Bud, bruh.
He was a lifelong Suns fan,coaching his favorite team.

SPEAKER_03 (33:38):
The guy that beat them.
They hired the guy that beatthem.

SPEAKER_04 (33:41):
Like, congratulations for beating us
in 2021.
Burn the team down, bruh.

SPEAKER_03 (33:46):
So, I think earlier...

SPEAKER_04 (33:47):
Make-A-Wish coach, that's unheard of.

SPEAKER_03 (33:49):
I think earlier in the season, like maybe like
episode, maybe like three or...
Two or three, maybe?
I mentioned Book changingcoaches, didn't I?

SPEAKER_04 (34:02):
I'm not trying to let those Guna thoughts win.

SPEAKER_03 (34:08):
I feel like I mentioned Book getting new
coaches.
I think it was around the timeDe'Aaron Fox got traded because
the King, he was on his, what,fourth, fifth coach?
I was like, Book might do thesame thing.
But he wants to stay in Phoenix.
That's the thing.

SPEAKER_04 (34:28):
De'Aaron Parks is so unloyal, bro.
That was least expected.
That dude quietly.

SPEAKER_03 (34:34):
Why you say?
That

SPEAKER_04 (34:35):
dude was quietly dissatisfied in his role to hit
the king.
I didn't see that one coming.
Dame, I saw that shit coming.
Oh, I remember that.
Oh, you remember the night wherehe made that magical shot
against the OKC Thunder duringthe playoffs?
Mm-hmm.
I remember where I was.

SPEAKER_03 (34:56):
Where he points down at his watch?
Yeah.
Or his wrist?

SPEAKER_04 (35:00):
Yeah.
I was on a flight on the wayfrom Portland.
We had just took off, andeverybody, that plane was
rocking and shit.
That just was hilarious.
I was like, that's a memorablemoment.

SPEAKER_03 (35:11):
I mean, but even then, I couldn't really tell you
that I saw Dame leaving theTrailblazers.
That was a nice trip.
The Aaron Fox situation was mad.
I don't blame him.
They brought in DeRozan, andthen they brought in Levine.
So now you got a saturatedcourt.
You got the

SPEAKER_04 (35:28):
Chicago Bulls out west.

SPEAKER_03 (35:30):
You got a bunch of players that need to handle the
ball.
They had Chicago part two.

SPEAKER_04 (35:35):
Chicago west.
You know how there's Cardinalstrying to be Philadelphia west
and shit.

SPEAKER_03 (35:39):
Anyway.
They can't keep a head coach.
or choose not to keep a headcoach, I don't blame Coach.
You

SPEAKER_04 (35:49):
should see the list of the odds of Suns' next head
coaches.
Steve Nash.

SPEAKER_03 (35:55):
What is that?
Sam Castle.
Time out, time

SPEAKER_04 (35:58):
out.
Willie Green.
Jared Dudley.
Why do you keep doing that?
Jared Dudley, head coach of thePhoenix Suns?
Wow, they are digging.
Chris Quinn, Mike Brown, yourfather about to be head coach of
the Phoenix Suns, Mika Nori,Taylor Jenkins, Joanne Bryant,
David Aldman, James Borago,Jarrett Jack, Jeff Van Gunnings

(36:18):
in the middle of this bettinglist, Becky Harmon, Estor
Messina, let me just like,Damian Stahlmeyer, Jason Terry,
I ain't hear that name in like20 years, Jason Terry.
Dave Droger, Mike Malone.
Odds are 40 to 1 for MikeMalone.
He's officially on the list ofhead coaches.
It's Phoenix Suns.

(36:39):
Oh, man, John Calipari.
Are we going to the collegebasketball coaches now?
Dan Hurley, John Calipari, ToddGolden, Mark Jackson.
Finally, he shows up on thelist.
Tarek Stotts.
Guess who's the next guy?
Who's the last guy?

SPEAKER_03 (36:53):
Why are they not who?

SPEAKER_04 (36:55):
Tom Izzo, Matt HBS coach in college.
Ain't that some irony rightthere?

SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
Why is there no mention of Barbosa?
Is Barbosa not on the coachingstaff right now?

SPEAKER_04 (37:11):
I don't know.
What is he doing right now inthe leagues beyond me?
All I know is that Willie Greenabout to be the head coach of
the Phoenix Suns, baby.

SPEAKER_03 (37:16):
I'm going to tell you right now.

SPEAKER_04 (37:18):
The Pelicans.
They want to be that team sobad, bro.
Like, no.
I ain't going

SPEAKER_03 (37:24):
nowhere for the next four years.
There's rumors that they'regoing to trade Zion in the
offseason.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
They're about to go into a fullrebuild.
They just fired everybody overthere.

SPEAKER_04 (37:35):
Yeah, they just burnt the whole thing down.
I mean, as they should.

SPEAKER_03 (37:39):
As they should.
They weren't doing anything.

SPEAKER_04 (37:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (37:44):
I would trade Zion, too.
I'm not going to lie.
Let's get off the Phoenix Suns.
Detroit Pistons are restrictingNew Yorkers from going to their
home games.
They are now checking forresident housing addresses for
anyone that's purchasingtickets.

(38:05):
You have to be in where?
I think I said Ontario,Michigan, Ohio.
What am I missing?
Illinois?
You're just missing all

SPEAKER_04 (38:13):
the Midwestern states.

SPEAKER_03 (38:15):
Yeah, that whole cul-de-sac of states.

SPEAKER_04 (38:17):
Yeah, cul-de-sac

SPEAKER_03 (38:19):
of trouble.
Around the lakes.

SPEAKER_04 (38:21):
Michigan.
You ever been to Michigan?
That's trash.
Very pleasant people.
Very sweet and pleasant peopleout in Michigan.
Detroit, man, sweetest people.
Probably the sweetest people youcould ever meet.
I'm like, yo, you guys are toofucking nice for like fucking,
y'all hold up in the D and shit.
Like, y'all be looking at.

(38:41):
Y'all be coming off like fuckingmurderers and shit.
Like, you guys are reallyfucking pleasant.

SPEAKER_03 (38:47):
I mean, I know some people from Michigan.

SPEAKER_04 (38:50):
Huh?
Anyway.

SPEAKER_03 (38:53):
But yeah, they're restricting Knicks fans from
buying tickets.

SPEAKER_04 (39:00):
Why?
I

SPEAKER_03 (39:01):
don't understand.
I feel like this is onlyhappening to Knicks fans.

SPEAKER_04 (39:05):
No, this is only happening for these petty ass
fans.
Owners and shit who was tryingso hard to win damn game and win
championship and shit

SPEAKER_03 (39:13):
you want to get into purple politics Rather short
this week.

SPEAKER_04 (39:17):
Yeah quite short.
Not too much going on inArizona, I guess nothing's
happening in Jersey or inArizona.
So all I got is this video thisNew York judge Be rating a man
for uh Trying to use AI on thedefense.

SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
Oh, yeah

SPEAKER_02 (39:35):
one May it please the court.
I come here today a humbleproceed before a panel of five
distinguished justices.

SPEAKER_00 (39:46):
Hold on.
Is that counsel for the case?

SPEAKER_01 (39:49):
I generated that.
I'm sorry?
I generated that.
That is not a real person.

SPEAKER_00 (40:02):
Okay.
It would have been nice to knowthat when you made your
application.
You did not tell me that, sir.
I received the application.
And you have appeared beforethis court and been able to
testify verbally in the past.
You have gone to my clerk'soffice and held verbal
conversations with our staff forover 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_03 (40:24):
Oh, she's fed

SPEAKER_00 (40:25):
up.
Okay?
I don't appreciate being misled.

SPEAKER_03 (40:30):
Oh, she's mad.

SPEAKER_00 (40:31):
So either you are suffering from an ailment that
prevents you from being able toarticulate...
or you don't.
You are not going to use thiscourtroom as a launch for your
business, sir.
So if you are able to shut thatoff.

(40:51):
If you want to have oralargument time, you may stand up
and give it to me.

SPEAKER_04 (41:05):
Oh, man.

SPEAKER_03 (41:07):
That's That judge is a mom, probably an aunt.

SPEAKER_04 (41:11):
Yeah, she's definitely like from some West
Caribbean country of sorts.

SPEAKER_03 (41:19):
Oh, definitely read that wrong.
She's a mom, she's an aunt, likeI said the first time.

SPEAKER_04 (41:27):
He looked like that dude off of Courage the Cowardly
Dog.
He was coming out of prison.
He was like Mary Rose's cousinor some shit.
came out of prison to cut, like,you know, cutting Courage's hair
or some bullshit like that.
Something about being naughty.
He like that, dude.
Errors and omissions.
What errors did we omit?

(41:48):
Or omiss?
Or what else?
Errors and omissions.
I'll go first.
So Torpedo Bats, not cheating.
Because they're all doing it.
What'd I tell you?
They ain't paying them things.
Talking about something they'regonna ban.
Well, your boy, what's his name,was using one.
You know who I'm talking about.

(42:10):
I'm not a Mets fan, so don't getmad at me.
I know, not so.
Come on, bro.
Say his name.

SPEAKER_03 (42:17):
I was saying if you was gonna remember Lindor.

SPEAKER_04 (42:20):
Yeah, Francisco Lindor.
There we go.

SPEAKER_03 (42:22):
Francisco Lindor.

SPEAKER_04 (42:24):
Lindor Chocolates.
Yo, you know, we also forgot toomit that we actually omitted
and we shouldn't have.
So we made an error on that lastsegment.
We forgot to put Stephen A.
Smith in for Purple Politicsbecause you know what?
No, he's not.
He's running for president in2028, Stephen A.
Smith.

SPEAKER_03 (42:43):
No, he's not.

SPEAKER_04 (42:45):
Hey, man.

SPEAKER_03 (42:46):
Under who's, under what party?

SPEAKER_04 (42:48):
The Democratic Party.
He about to make it moremoderate.
He

SPEAKER_03 (42:51):
already

SPEAKER_04 (42:51):
talked.
No.
Listen, I don't endorse people,but out of all the people who
could be running for presidentin the next three or four years,
one of them is actually seekinga third term like he's
Bloomberg.
I'd rather go with Stephen A.
Smith at this point.

SPEAKER_03 (43:07):
I'd rather not.
A sports journalist forpresident is insane.
Give me the guy for the thirdterm.
Okay, we

SPEAKER_04 (43:20):
have somebody who had a hair versus hair match
with Vince McMahon as presidentof the United States, Burt.

SPEAKER_03 (43:25):
Still, still, I'd rather have a businessman and
entertainer than a sportsjournalist.

SPEAKER_04 (43:33):
The 20-something if black columnist and sports
journalist.
I'm just kidding.
You have to be flexing aboutthat shit all the time.
That at first take being numberone for 12, 13, 14, 15.
That's my boy, bro.
I don't care, man.
All I know is that if you can goto Sean Hannity, they don't
really be arguing aboutanything.
The fact that you can come up onthere and just be buddy with

(43:54):
that dude, that just shows howmuch life and power you have as
a person.
Because a lot of people, man,there's not a lot of people who
can get along with both sideslike Stephen A.
Smith can, man.
He looks for the best in people.
Kind of like me.
This is probably why I'm here inArizona.
Shouldn't be looking for thebest in everybody.
Boo me up in the face.

(44:15):
Yo, Ladies and gentlemen,listen, everybody's made an
impact on everybody at somepoint in their lives.
Whether it was that girl youwere seeing for a couple months,
that girl you were seeing for acouple years, or maybe that
friend you had for like fiveminutes when you was driving
Lyft and he said, oh, you shouldstart a podcast.
And then three years later, allof a sudden, your best friend
tells you the same thing.
You're like, let's do it.

(44:36):
Everybody makes an impact oneverybody, man.
But I'm just going to say.
Especially if it's somebodythat's been in your life for a
amount of time who's seen youleft and right, up and down, all
around, and you're saying you'renothing?
That is ungrateful.
There's people who helped mebecome me to a degree, and I'll

(44:57):
be forever enshrined in a hallof fame in my head.
But I'm telling you right now,man, don't you ever, ever deny
or divest or Dismiss somebodywho inspired you or who helped
you at a time of need and who'sdone more good than harm in your

(45:18):
life.
You know?
I guess that was myphilosophical thought of the
week.
Apparently, you can read thatnext part.
We got a comment this week.
What comment?
Oh, that...

SPEAKER_03 (45:32):
Oh, your tweet.

SPEAKER_04 (45:34):
Yeah.
So I just wanted to remindeverybody that you're on X,
so...
Definitely, you know, stop byand provoke us to say something.
Like something about anunfortunate situation that
happened not too long beforethis taping.
A young man by the name of, lastname's Lacey.

(45:55):
I remember it was Steve Lacey,you know.
It was a good time.
I used to listen to that dudeall the time, man.
Good times.
What's his name?
Help me.
Help me.
Help me.

SPEAKER_03 (46:07):
I don't remember this.

SPEAKER_04 (46:07):
Kyra Lacey.
From all things considered, thisgentleman offed himself after a
confrontation that turned into apolice chase.
And we put a statement outthere.
And I'm going to let the viewersdecide on who wrote that
statement.

(46:28):
And somebody who claims to haveknown...
The Lacey family commented onthe remarks that were made by
us.
I'm going to read an excerptbecause we went off on this.

(46:50):
Those who have those demons orto put bluntly ailments,
physical and mental traumas,complete internal crash out.
A lot of them just want to befree.
A lot of them just want to go.
Not because they're weak, butbecause they're tired.
Tired of fighting alone.
Tired of hearing you got thisfrom people who never had that.
I wish more of them got caughtup by a beam of light before it

(47:12):
was too late.
I wish peace didn't have to looklike escape.
But some of us just wantstillness.
And yeah, sometimes stillnesslooks like being spirit free
from the noise.
Heaven willing, depending on howthe alpha lights frame and the
doctrine that you were raisedunder.
I had somebody comment.

(47:32):
He had a great family with notrauma.
I know them.
We're like, I hear you, but agreat family doesn't
automatically mean someoneescaped generational trauma.
It doesn't always do experts inthis sort of thing called
behavioral model.
So basically, what we weretrying to explain here is that

(47:54):
trauma isn't always seen.
It isn't always experienced inreal time.
It's inherited through the DNA.
It's hereditary to a degree.
Now, generational trauma is nota medical condition, but it does
lead to diagnoses for ADHD, OCD,depression, anxiety, all that

(48:15):
other stuff.
And of course, we try to explainit that way, but...
She went back and said, all Iwill tell you is that I know
more about this situation thanyou do.
So then we went back and said,totally get that she might know
more than us, but does beingclose to a situation always mean

(48:38):
seeing everything clearly oreven parts that get passed down
quietly through silence?
Perhaps, but I know twogenerations of the family.
Ladies and gentlemen, I mean,there's things I don't know
about Brenna's family.
And there's things thatBrandon's don't know about my
family.
Even though I talk too much andhe probably knows everything.
The point we're trying todeliver here is that you never

(49:03):
really know what somebody'sgoing through, you know?
So would I be surprised ifanything were to happen to
somebody of significance to meto this degree?
Absolutely.
But at the same time, you don'talways know a person completely.
We don't know ourselves enough.
Most of us know ourselves morethan we know other people.

(49:25):
We live in very surprisingtimes.
And if there's enough evidenceto justify something and to make
a point about something, thenhey.
I mean, there's a discretion tothat too.
It's an unfortunate situation.
I don't know if you got anythingon that.

SPEAKER_03 (49:43):
Nah, you went into some real deep stuff there.

UNKNOWN (49:48):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 (49:50):
Yeah, man.
We live in a deep life.
You don't got to be deep all thetime, but memento mori, you
know?
Remember death.
That's just saying Latin.
But don't remember death to thepoint to where you got to remind
everybody we're all going todie.
Talking to you, Ryan Holiday.

SPEAKER_03 (50:07):
You ready to wrap it up?

SPEAKER_04 (50:10):
Wrap it up, then.

SPEAKER_03 (50:16):
And that concludes...
Episode seven until next timefrom the concrete.

SPEAKER_04 (50:23):
You can unfollow, maybe block the pass, but the
algorithm still knows what youcare about.
Katniss, what's your

SPEAKER_03 (50:32):
tip of the

SPEAKER_04 (50:33):
week?

SPEAKER_03 (50:34):
My tip of the week for you guys is not to
procrastinate.
If you say you're going to dosomething or you plan to do
something, just do it.

SPEAKER_04 (50:41):
Oh, you know what I was going to do today?
I was going to send you a videoof the ghost of the goon passing
me on the highway today.

SPEAKER_03 (50:48):
Bro, someone lives around the corner with the car.
Literally, I see it like everymorning.
Make sure you like, comment,subscribe, share with your
family, friends, and yourneighbors.
Knock on your door and tell themto follow.

SPEAKER_04 (51:00):
Send this to all your exes.

SPEAKER_03 (51:02):
And then some.
Remember the person that youspoke to last week?
Remember your boss pulled youinto the office and had that
conversation with you?
Make sure you tell them tofollow Concrete Cactus.

SPEAKER_04 (51:11):
Baby mamas, your neighbors, your neighbor's kids.
Nah, not the neighbor's kids.

SPEAKER_03 (51:16):
Your kids' doctors, the dentist.
All of them.

SPEAKER_04 (51:20):
Your coworker.

SPEAKER_03 (51:21):
The coworker.
The bus driver.
Tell your F45 coach.
I don't take the bus.
I just know.

SPEAKER_04 (51:28):
Tell that fine shit in gym.

SPEAKER_03 (51:29):
Shout out to everybody at GNC.

SPEAKER_04 (51:33):
That fraud.
Chinese company.
Man, don't get out of with that

SPEAKER_03 (51:36):
bullshit.
Shout out Radio Shack.

SPEAKER_04 (51:39):
Man,

SPEAKER_03 (51:40):
stay warm.
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