Concrete Mama: The Podcast

Concrete Mama: The Podcast

Concrete Mama is not just a podcast - it’s a raw and powerful journey recorded in the heart of the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla. Featuring Demar, Anthony, Red, Vik, Gates, Nate, and Rachel, this groundbreaking show rewrites the narrative of life behind bars. The hosts delve into the prison’s notorious past — the infamous “Concrete Mama” era, when a failed experiment turned it into one of the most feared facilities in America. Get ready to rethink everything you know about the prison industrial complex. Concrete Mama is more than a podcast — it’s a movement.

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February 28, 2025 13 mins

Concrete Mama is not just a podcast - it’s a raw and powerful journey recorded in the heart of the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla. Featuring Demar, Anthony, Red, Cambo, Vik, and Rachel, this groundbreaking show rewrites the narrative of life behind bars.

On this inaugural prologue episode, journey down this yellow brick road with us into a world within our world. Our hosts share their stories of growth and dive i...

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On our first venture inside the walls of the Washington State Penitentiary, the team explores the relationships formed while in prison, and how they’re irreparably altered when folks are released. Vik sits down with Demar, Red, and Cambo to discuss the void Anthony’s freedom has left behind, and Demar shares candid moments from the morning after Anthony’s release. 

Red’s History Report: The Concrete Mama...

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March 17, 2025 52 mins

Anthony returns to his childhood home for the first time in 20 years, as the extended Covert family gathers to celebrate Christmas and reminisce. Anthony takes Demar on a journey through the highs and lows of his homecoming, and a serendipitous moment of reconnection proves that the bonds formed behind bars are truly unbreakable.

Red’s History Report: Dr. Hunter’s “Mental Health” Program, 1970s

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March 24, 2025 49 mins

Follow Demar and Nessa on an epic journey from childhood to adulthood and freedom to shackles, as they recount a lifetime of challenges, victories, and resilience. It’s a tragedy, a comedy, a romance, a crime caper – a hero’s journey straight from the mouth of the main character. Will Demar be free to write his own ending?

Red’s History Report: The Curious Case of Herbert Nicholls Jr., 1930s

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March 31, 2025 52 mins

Anthony’s future hangs in the balance as the Washington State Clemency and Pardons Board hears testimonies from friends and community members speaking on his behalf. Simultaneously, Anthony paints a picture of a life lived on the precipice – of cultures, of freedom, and of self-determination.

Red’s History Report: WSP Ghost Stories

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April 7, 2025 45 mins

As we hit the halfway mark of our inaugural season, Vik and Rachel sit down with Anthony, Demar, and Red to discuss the making of the first four episodes, and the show’s impact both inside and outside the prison.

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Locomotive - Jake Soffer

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April 14, 2025 60 mins

Follow the team on an unprecedented journey behind the scenes of prison programming and community engagement, as the Black Prisoners’ Caucus puts on a Juneteenth event open to members of the Walla Walla community. We’ll hear from residents of the town on their relationship to the prison, and get exclusive insight from some of the highest-ranking members of the Washington State Department of Corrections.

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April 21, 2025 47 mins

Whether you’re doing time, visiting a loved one, volunteering your time, or clocking in as a staff member, everyone has a first day in prison. Today, the crew tackles the process of intake and arrival, sharing visceral memories of the smells, sights, and sounds of being processed. Corrections specialists Chris McGill and Josh Lancaster offer advice for new staff, and Parris Miller recounts the stark differences between his fi...

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April 28, 2025 50 mins

You know him as Concrete Mama’s resident historian, but this week, we journey down the winding road of Steven “Red” Edwards’ life, painting a vivid picture of a man who’s both a compassionate leader on the inside and a beloved family man on the outside. We’ll hear him sit down with Vik to discuss their parallel journeys with addiction, and an eye-opening conversation with Demar further demonstrat...

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May 5, 2025 35 mins

Before we wrap up the season with our finale next week, the crew sits down to answer another round of listener questions. This week, topics include having pets in prison, the life-changing power of reading, and what’s on the menu in the chow hall.

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Solid Ground - Assaf Ayalon

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May 12, 2025 75 mins

On our season finale, Demar and Red introduce us to a handful of the most talented creatives incarcerated at WSP, and Anthony and Demar reunite for a candid conversation on freedom, family, and their hopes for Concrete Mama’s lasting impact. See you next season!

Red’s History Report: The Lifers With Hope, 1970s

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Missing - Livio Bartolo

Illusion - Marek Jakubowicz

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September 8, 2025 14 mins

As we work on production for Season 2, we wanted to offer a few brief glimpses into how our hosts' lives are progressing in real-time. Anthony recently celebrated one year of freedom, and sat down with us to reflect on what he's learned. This special bonus episode was guest edited by our production assistant Alicia Nevarez.

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Soft Memory - Okaya

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September 15, 2025 42 mins

Rachel and Anthony sit down to reflect on an early recording with the full Concrete Mama team, discussing the reception of Season 1 and overcoming changes in the crew's lineup.

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She Arrives in New York - Max H

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Demar Nelson, Steven "Red" Edwards, and Ant...

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BAM! POW! CONCRETE MAMA: THE PODCAST is back for Season 2, and there’s a lot to catch up on. Since the last time we heard from our heroes, they’ve found new purpose, new opportunities, new freedoms… and even new romance. Before Episode 1 drops next week, hear from the team as they recap a whirlwind year of success and look eagerly toward the future.

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July 1, 2026 58 mins

On our first journey back inside the walls of the Washington State Penitentiary, Demar, Red, and Vik sit down with Earlonne Woods from Ear Hustle to discuss the impact of Justice Media and the responsibility of representing the incarcerated population to the world, and Anthony, Vik, and Rachel host an unprecedented community celebration in Walla Walla. Chris Gates also joins the podcast team, and embarks on a journey towards healin...

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July 8, 2026 72 mins

In an environment saturated with stigma and designed to keep you isolated, where can you turn to safely talk about your feelings? For a handful of men in WSP’s medium security unit, the answer is Neurodiversity Group – a small weekly gathering that meets in a spare room to share their struggles openly, with love, honesty, and accountability. Through interviews with mental health specialists both inside and outside the D...

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July 15, 2026 74 mins

Demar and Vanessa exchange voicemail messages reflecting on their bond and their shared journey as their son Avonye approaches his 18th birthday. Demar and Red interview Raylin and Alex about their approaches to fatherhood, marriage, and legacy from inside prison.

Red’s History Report: Ball Zappers: Radiation, Alcohol, and LSD Experimentation (with Ken Agtuca)

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