Dirty Laundry, Sex Dreams, & Nipple Clamps w/ Jackie Grubs

This week, the guys are joined by their friend and wedding party member Jackie Grubsfor a WILD wildcard episode, covering everything from ice cream to nipple clamps to fictional infidelity. Jackie Iadonisi’s number one priority in life is to not look back and think: "I could have eaten that." As Delish’s West Coast eater-at-large, she hosts and produces videos on Youtube and Snapchat. She has previously worked as a food correspondent for The Travel Channel and Access Hollywood. If you're curious how ice cubes once played a role in AJ and Emile's bedroom activities... you'll wanna check out this episode!
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw media. Oh you farted, didn't I did? I told
you I was gassie. I told you it like just
a close environment. Just hit my nose, just like invaded.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
The nostrils, turned off the ac So here we are.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
You know what's that song? It's like turn off the lights,
lighted candle. We're gonna light a candle for a different right.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I know. I think that there's that song about somebody
who just has gas from eating cauliflowers.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's going to be converted if we played at the wedding,
it's going to be about your gus. Wow. Hello everyone,
my microphone on me. Just adjust this adjusted? What's up?
Your attitude to my attitude is just fine? Adjust your
adjust your digestive system. Okay, what's up, y'all? Welcome to
confess your mass. We are so so very excited to
be here with you and with our very special guests.

(00:47):
We happen to be one of my best friends, so
I'm really excited.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well of all days too. She's here today to wait?
Why is that for a couple of reasons? Okay, One,
she's in your wedding party. Yeah, and what did we
do this afternoon?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
We got our marriage license today. Yeah, yes, we did
have a big deal. We got our marriage license, so
we're very excited about that. But okay, if this is
your first time listening to the podcast. On this podcast,
we break down secrets and basically listeners submit secrets to
us and then we have a different theme. Every single
episode we have a celebrity guest and today, oh, if

(01:23):
you want to submit your secret, what can they do?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Go to confess your mess dot us submit your secret anonymously.
You can leave as much or as little as information
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(01:46):
and over on Apple Podcasts. We can also write us
a review, which we really really appreciate. And every week
we have a Messenger of the Week. We pull reviews
for Apple and also from our YouTube channel. Yeah, if
you're a visual you can watch there as well. And uh, yeah,
that was so informant.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Might a Messenger of the Week. I really, I really
love the way you just broke that down. Come man,
Speaking of breaking it down, though this person is broken
it down with me and AJ many times there might
have been some libations involved out in Wiho or in Mexico,

(02:23):
but or our apartment back before the pandemic. We need
to do like karaoke parties and stuff. But anyway, our
guest is Jackie. You can follow her at Jackie Grubs
And if you don't know, Jackie is just an amazing
human being. She you can see her Clever at the list.
We actually met working together at Clever back in twenty sixteen,

(02:44):
which is wild.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
As seen on Access Access Hollywood hasn't internationally renowned, world
renowned food blogger and vlogger. I don't know what's the difference.
Blogger's writing right, a blogger, she's a vlogger.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, vlogger is Yeah, we were. We were actually texting
her yesterday.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I called her yesterday and had a whole conversation about
some content I had to shoot and she helped talk
me through it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I learned all about the loop. She's also been a
food correspondent for the Travel Challenge. She's just all around
and we truly love her. And anytime she posts anything
about shrimp, she gets DMS from me. Because she knows
I love shrimp. Okay, welcome to the pod, Jackie.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
What's up y'all?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
What an introduction? Oh my god, wait a minute. Congratulations
on getting your marriage license. Huge. It's like it's like official.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well we almost forgot. Like we just like a week
a week or so ago. We're like, wait, don't we
have to get a marriage license or something? And when
Neils started looking into.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I don't know who said that, Emil said, don't we
have to get our marriage license?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well okay, but to be fair, I did our like
self spreadsheet like months ago and we had it on there.
We got so yeah, as part of the budget. They
didn't they didn't kick us out. They didn't say, oh
my god, you're gay, so you can't get this, even
though in this country, based on the way things are
going a little nervous about same sex marriage and raws. However,
that part, I will tell you this though, Jackie was

(04:03):
actually really sweet because when we went there, obviously, like
the way we were entering the courthouse in Beverly Hills
there it was like pairs coming in and there's two
women that tried to go through. They didn't have an
appointment in because of COVID, they won't let you through
without an appointment, so they're pretty pretty strict. We got
up there and then as we were going through the
process and got the actual like you have to put
your hand up and say like little oath and make

(04:24):
a promise. And then as we got our paperwork, a
few different people congratulated them. Even on the way out,
the security guys like congratulated us, and I was like, okay,
that's cool.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, and going into security guy didn't seem that nice. Yeah, okay.
So Jackie, before we get even into our first segment,
just since we have you here, what what most are
you excited? We haven't revealed the wedding day. I don't
think we're gonna reveal the wedding day honestly until it's over.
What are you most excited for? We I think by
the time your episode comes out, there will be a

(04:54):
YouTube video that has been released, so I think people
will know. But if you know what you might know, and.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
If you know I know anything about marriage license, says
you know marriage licenses? You know that now that we
have it, the wedding is sometime within the next ninety days.
That's all We're saying because expires after ninety days.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
But what are you what are you most excited about
for the wedding?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, it's in Mexico, Okay,
And I know it's all about you guys, but we
also get a vacation, you know what I'm saying. So
so I think it's I mean, the place that you
guys are having it is stunning, it's so beautiful. And
I think, as you guys know, the last time we
were all together as a group, So it's a group

(05:34):
that we all hang out with. It's all of AJ's
closest friend, all of a male's closest friend, and we
all went to Mexico together. What was it like four
years ago? Now? Yeah, yeah, four years ago. So I
mean again, it's all about y'all's love. But there's something
nostalgic about it that all of us are going to
be in Mexico again together and all of us as
a group hasn't gone on a vacation like.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
That in a really long time since Mexico.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Since Mexico, and then now we're all going to be
together again in Mexico, and y'all too are gonna be
official I'm so happy for you guys.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So my question is, last time we're in Mexico, there's
a photo of you in this red dress with your
hair back and a pony, and it's like one of
the most stunning things I've ever seen in my life
until the post last weekend of you and our friend
drew in that like sort of orange terri Cotta dress,
which is killer. You still have that red dress and

(06:26):
is going to make an appearance in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
You know what's so funny, I actually have the top still.
I got rid of the skirt.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
And I was about it's a two pieces.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's two piece, and I was about to donate it,
and my sister came and visited me and she put
in the pile to take. So it's not going to
make an appearance. But you know what, I'm gonna buy
something new and to like show out for y'all. You
know what I'm saying, Like it's a celebration. So it's
gonna be another two piece, but like different.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, fashion Nova dot Com not spot.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
All right, listen, listen, we have been looking everywhere Lincoln
at Czar. There's this brand I like called or two.
There's like so many different websites where we're shopping from
Aso's and.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think I think or two is Ukrainian. Actually think so.
And if you went into our bedroom right now, Mess,
there's this. So we have a long dresser. Mess got
stacks and stacks of brand new clothing with all the
tags on, and then next to it is bags and
bags and bags of class.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I know everybody isn't saying as long as we're literally
getting there on that Friday and we're staying until Saturday,
so we have to have looks and Jackie, you know,
we're trying to. We're gonna put together a social media plan.
We're getting better at our social media soon. But while
we're down there, we were like, we need to turn
looks and take photos. We have content, like we'll have
wedding content, but also like get other photos. Anyway, we're

(07:41):
very excited.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
It's gonna sound no, go ahead, this is gonna sound crazy.
But there's this girl, Leanbe who's a huge like she
has a huge presence on social media. She had a
whole team there. Throughout her wedding. Everything was documented, like
the reels, the photos, everything she had like literally three
weeks of content. This sounds extreme, but this is the
day and age that we're in. I think you guys

(08:03):
should hire somebody dedicated. So that's the social media, so
that the whole thing's documented for you guys.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Stresses you out, Okay, Jackie, Okay. So here's where I
stand on all of this. When we had the conversation
and we talked about this in the pod before, I
think when we had the conversation about the videographer and
photography team, right, I was like on one planet and
a Meal was on a completely different planet. Now I
completely understand now where he is. The amount of money.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I was on the planet, amount.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Of money we're spending on just that for the day
of the wedding is like more than most will spend
on a whole wedding where I come from, right in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
So whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
And also the other part of it is I love
the idea of documenting things, but I also really really
want time with my man and with my friends and
family where I'm not thinking about a camera anywhere, because
that is such a part of our life. So for me,
like it has to be.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
What I agree. Listen, lets okay, here's the thing already,
because you guys are on camera and doing it. I
totally agree. The day of your wedding is already a
stressful situation because you're concerned about this, not making sure
everybody's there, YadA a YadA. Even if you have a
wedding planner, you still are concerned with a lot of things.

(09:20):
I kudos to Lean Vee for being able to do that,
but also was she present the whole entire time? I
don't know. That's her own journey, but but it does
take up some of your time.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So I'll say, you know, for the wedding day because
we're only documenting. We'll take photos and stuff throughout the trip,
but we're only documenting the actual wedding day. So from
uh oh okay, yeah, so from two o'clock to two o'clock
to midnight, we have photo and video happening like the
whole team all day. The rest of the trip is

(09:50):
going to be on us and like friends and whatever
to take photos of.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So surprise, you're our social media team for the first
four days. Oh my congratulations. We did do that in
Mexico the last time. Remember last time in Mexico the
photo shoot on the rocks.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
And it was a whole thing. Every single day with
multiple shoots. I feel like this is so old.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I feel like, Jackie, I think you had the fancy
phone at the time. She feel like you had like
an iPhone eight Yeah, and everybody's like, whoa, we got
to photo. So she's air dropping to everybody all day.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
But she had like the eight plus and the eight
plus had the nicer cameras. Listen, we're so excited. And
we're even more excited because I hate to say fans
or followers, but most of our following doesn't know anything
any of the details. You all know some of the details,
there are still so many details that you don't know,
and we're just we're excited. We have so many surprises,
So he has a lot of things that he doesn't
know that I'm planning and I haven't told anybody so.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
And that gets me nervous every time because I'm like,
do I need more surprises?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
How many? You don't need any more? We just it's
going to be a very special baby. But let's get
into the podcast. Okay, what is our what's what? What do
we kick it off with?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay? So, okay, Jackie, so we know you, like you're
a friend of ours, so you're like different than like
some of the guests we have on here, who were
more like associates who are just like you know, known
for what.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Ever, but not known for whatever, all kinds of really.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Cool stuff, not whatever. I mean, okay, good. The talent
levels vary a bit, but they're all they're all known.
But in order to trust you with our listeners submitted
secrets and confessions, we want to know that you're willing
to like like have like have like a what is
a foot in the game, a hand in the game?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
A sports reference kind of But you're.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Down to play. So this is not your big secret.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Or your confession.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
You're going to share that with us at the end
of the podcast. This is like a little teeny one.
This is more like a vice, maybe a bad habit
that you have. Maybe there's a food or a snack
or a situation that you know wasn't good for you.
Maybe it's somebody that you text when you get a
little bit tipsy. Maybe it's it's just something that's not
good for you, but you have not been able to
say no to it just yet. This is your mess.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
But yees, oh my gosh, I love that I was
secretized and everything, like you guys have a podcast weekly
with each other. Oh man, Okay, well it's funny because
is mess is really just sticking with me that word mess.
I think something that I don't like to admit to

(12:07):
anybody that is a secret is oh I don't I
get oh am, I gonna.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Go there, go there, go there, I.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Can go Okay. I have this problem with procrastination, right,
and uh sometimes I can go weeks maybe months without
doing laundry, okay, and then there's like piles and piles.
Wait wait, wait you say something a minute.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah that's a mess, but mess, that's just messy.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Wait months time out of time out.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
How many clothes do you have?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Go ahead, wait, that's the problem. I have a lot
of clothes, right, so it's like, okay, I've worn it,
it's been a month. I'm like, all right, I got
other clothes, or I'll actually go out and buy light
news socks.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yep, yep. Wait.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
But let's also talk about I do not have the
privilege of having a washer and dryer in my apartment,
so I have to know.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
But we have it in our buildings in your midl ding.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I have to go to a laundry mat and spend
three to four hours of my day there. So sometimes
I just put it off, which is a disgusting habit. Okay,
it is because then I have piles of dirty clothes,
just like living in my bedroom. Yeah, so that's something
that I'm trying to get better at.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I hope whoever I future date doesn't watch this, they're
gonna be like that girl is nasty.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Hell no, listen, the only clean space and apartment right
now is right behind her.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
There's like piles floating everywhere else. That's why she was
looking off cameras. She was like, I see all the
bad I want to talk about that staring at me.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's always so funny that people have an issue with
doing laundry. You hate laundry too, And I do hate laundry.
That's to that degree.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I hate it. I hate it, and I've told you
this before. I hate it because if we had an
apartment or house where it was any unit, I actually
don't mind doing laundry because what I love about you
have it in the unit is sometimes some people will
just they'll pick a certain color or things that don't
have to be separated, and they'll just put it directly
in the laundry and we do all you just started
as needed, right, But for us, I just hate it

(14:12):
because we live in a we live somewhere where there's
multiple floors, and I just hate having to go all
the way downstairs and you're waiting for the elevator. It's
just a lie.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I'm so weird.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I love doing laundry.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, I love it, and probably twice twice a week
I'll do like two or three loads.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
So I'm just gonna I'm gonna roll this. So whenever
we do the time code, Frank just let me know
when he said that, So whenever he asked me to
do laundry, I can just play it. I love doing launch.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
But I also but you've been better lately. But historically
I do the bulk of all the cleaning.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Okay, do you want to do Jacki's laundry too.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
No, I'm just saying though, So on occasion, like just today,
I just clean the entire kitchen.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
And living room. If you disaster, I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
That, you know, and I know you do so every
now and then I just ask for like, hey, could
you go throw in the load and laundry for me?
Or Hey, I did three loads that I put them
in the washer, in the can you just pick them
up for me, and he'll be.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Like, some people like taking care of the loads and
some people like taking the loads. So you were such
such a hoe.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I'm just saying loads taking loads.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
We all have our strength.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Speaking of speaking of taking loads, guess what this one's
doing to me, Jackie, you're a friend, I can tell
you this story.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Guess what he's doing. What no sex?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
No sex until our wedding night.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I love that. I actually thank you, thank you. I
think that is I think that's incredible because there's something
special about leading up to that special day, something to
hold out for, something like the anticipation. Because let me
tell you this right from somebody that like before my
mayor before my wedding date, we didn't have sex for

(15:45):
you know, a year and a half, okay, so that
the night of was so incredibly special. So yes, you
guys have had sex, like you guys have been intimate,
but I think holding off like that night, yeah, it's
gonna be like.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I love but listen, we've been knocking boots for a decade, right,
and if we're late to the reception, just No.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
There's a result. We won't be late to the reception
because during the reception or cock toil, how we will
be taking photo It's gonna we have a time line.
You think I'm not gonna find a way. Oh my gosh, okay,
go no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Sorry aj aj You're gonna hate me. But I think
you guys should take it up one level and no
kissing or no cuddling, no sex like, no intimacy.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
No I can't do that. Yes we can.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
We're gonna kiss you.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
No, I think, I think, I honestly I think no.
Here's the thing, though, here's the thing, And this is
why I tried to explain to him, there's something about
the tension building to the point where if you really
take everything away, and I understand what he said, He's like, no,
I can't do that. If you really take everything and
we're not gonna stay on here how many more days
it is to the wedding. But if you really take
everything away, I'm just envisioning a standing first of all,
when I walk down the aisle and then we're standing

(16:54):
there next to each other. It's gonna make the first
kiss when we get married so special. And then you
have have like the whole reception and we okay, I'll
reveal this. We are having an after party. So the
reception and the after party is just going to be
like once we're done with that.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
In most of the room, it's like party is going
to be four minutes long.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Then No that no, so listen because we we we
we were paying for some things. So I'm already going happen.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I'm gonna tell you this, Jackie, I'm glad you're on
his side his wedding party, because that is the worst
advice I've ever heard in my life.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I'm implementing that. No, no, no kissing or not or
not implementing that. Okay, kissing, We're going.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Don't want arguments. What we don't want is arguments leading
up to the wedding.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, I'll tell you what. Planning an international wedding during
a pandemic is so stressful. If I don't get a
cuddle or a kiss every now and then, our relationship
is going to make it.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay, wedding, Okay, So I need a little bit compromise. Compromise,
then we're going to the secrets. What about just kissing
on the cheek?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
No, I can just give you pecks. We won't make out, Okay, okay,
well I love that quick and then well we don't
make out. Less is going down when.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
They say when they say husband and husband, then we
just make out in front of everybody and they're like, whoa,
calm down.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Hey, your dad in the front row of the reverend.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I mean, we're at this point. I'm to the like
when we talk about the wedding, it's our wedding day.
Like I'm not going to be nervous anymore because like
we're getting married. It's like it is what it is.
You know, We're just gonna have Even my mom was like,
just have fun, like it's your day. Like I'm not
gonna be looking because you know, Jackie, you know back
in the day, I used to be afraid to drink
in front of my mom and like all those things.
She was just like half fun.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Just she stayed with us a few weeks ago. We
have a whole bar cart just fully stocked, and she's like,
I don't care. Yeah, we're at dinner when we went
to Joe's Crabshack.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
We've told that story. You had a cock.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
She's like, what's that. I was like, oh, it's a
it's a punch. What's in it? Pineapple juice, some grandine,
I don't know what else, rum sharing a lot a
lot of rum I she just laughed.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, So, if you are here, we talked a lot
about wedding stuff, but that's because it's getting closer, so
you're welcome. But also we have to talk about the
secrets because that's what this podcast is about. So every
single episode we have a theme. So the thing for
this episode is wild Card. So these secrets could really
be about anything because Jackie's wild wild. So the first

(19:08):
secret is from anonymous female California. If you are an
avid listener of the podcast, I know whenever we say California,
La or anything, we might know.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
This person's like Drew or something.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Right, it literally could be anybody, like anybody. So it
says I'm usually vegan, but when I was pregnant last year. Okay,
so it's not she is.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Vegan sometimes she has been in the past or vegetarian
for yes, when we were in Mexico last time. Yeah,
when we were in Mexico last time, she's like, I
don't eat this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And then
all of a sudden she had chicken tenders.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Because her that that tracks her. Camelia and Nadia all
were kind of the pescatarian, and I think Nadia was
purely vegan or vegetarian.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Every now and then they have fried chicken.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah. Okay, so this person says anonymous female California. I'm
usually vegan, but when I was pregnant last year, I
had a really weird food craving, so please mentally prepare yourselves.
The only two things I endlessly craved were red meat
and ice cream. At first, I ate the two separately,
but pretty soon I started combining them. I know it
sounds gross, but as a pregnant woman, I loved it.

(20:14):
My phaves were Ben and Jerry's fish Food, which is vanilla,
chocolate and caramel. That's my favorite, with beef jerky on top.
And verd Monster, which is maple pecans and vanilla with
bacon on top. Okay, now that one kind of sounds good, laps,
but I also experimented with cookies and cream with Hamburger helper,
which was oddly satisfying, and and mintchip mixed with spicy

(20:37):
tie beef was so good. Now that I'm not pregnant,
I gag at the thought at all of the above.
That's why, Jackie, you've tried some wild things. What are
your thoughts on those food combinations that's so interesting.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I'm all about like saltya and sweet, and I mix
weird things together too, But I'm just thinking about like
ice cream with those textures, like hamburger helper with mid chip.
I think she said that just as sound appetizing at
but I'm here for a good mixture.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
The first one though, didn't The first one didn't sound
so crazy, like beef jerky with ice cream.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Really kind of yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Could you kind of use the jerky as a spoon?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Maybe? Nah? Maybe just because I don't like beef jerky.
I love beef jerky. You love your dad makes homemade
beef jerkey, andio he sends it to us in the mail,
I will say you. We've all been to was it
the OC Fair or like the La Fair? And you
know they have those crazy combinations. So the one that
the only one that sounded good to me was the
Very Monster, which is maple pecans vanilla with bacon on top.

(21:32):
And that just makes me think of those big donuts
with the bacon on top.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yes, I feel like that standard, like anything with maple
and bacon just makes sense, Like that's that's just like
a classic flavor combination. But the other ones, Okay, that's strange.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Is this a hormone thing? Like, like because it is?
It predominantly women that like these kind of wild things.
I always hear about, like pregnant women who eat like
wild combinations of food. Like when you're going through like
your cycle every month, you get like weird cravings change
as a woman.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Oh yeah, when you're yeah, are you kidding? Eat well?
For me, I just want like something sweet, Like all
women have that thing that they want to eat, and
it's mostly like you're indulging, right, it's like that fatty food,
the sweets, all of that. I am ravenous on my period.
Like I go in ice cream burgers, like French fries.

(22:25):
The worst the food, the better.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, Because it's interesting because all of these combinations. I
actually love every single one of these things individually. I
wouldn't think to put them together, but like I grew up.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I know, I was like, wait, you love it all together? No?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, no, I love like hamburger helper Like every now and
then every few years I have like a moment where
I'm like, yes, childhood, I want a Hamberger.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
When was the last time you had hamburger helper every day?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't even know if I've had it since I've
been with you.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I don't think you had. I don't think I've ever
made it, because if we made it, I don't think
you would still enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Well, you don't really eat ground. I would, No, I could.
I could find a hamburger helper or tuna helper.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
You know, I know.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I grew up kind of not with money. I grew
up with a single mom who worked in a factory
and we ate some weird weird growing up, and hamburger
hamburger helper was like kind of fancy. It was like
the cheeseburger one wash.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I was good. We would do hamburger helper. We would
just do it a ground turkey. No, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
No, it was delicious fancy.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
That's not even hamburger helpers.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Literally in the title, it's a helper when you get
the hamburger helper in case you've never had it before.
For you people who haven't had it, pause, it is
literally pasta and whatever like mixture, and then you put
your meat ground turkey and ground bay.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
But it's not called ground turkey helper.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
No, oh my god, hamburger. Y'all.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, we voted.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
You're wrong on this one.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Wrong.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Sorry, sorry, not sorry, you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Dakie. Dakie's supposed to be on my side, literally side wedding.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
She's your good, good friend. She's in your wedding party.
She's also my friend. And she's a logical human being.
I mean, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
So you're saying that because I say something, it's not logical.
Let's get hosh, we take a break. Yea, let's go
break me all right.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Welcome back to confessing your mess. Oh wow, that is disgusting.
You good, that's a residuble covid flum you got there?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
That was That was hot? No, that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Listen, welcome back to confess to your mess. We've got
Jackie Grubs on the program food. We were just talking
weird food combos and hormones a moment ago.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Okay, So since we're talking weird food combos, before we
get to more secret, and I'll let you do the
next secret. Before we get to more secrets, I want
everybody to say what their weirdest food craving has ever been?
Oh okay, so for or let's do this either weirdest
food craving or your what other people think is your
weirdest food combination. So for me, I remember in college.

(24:53):
I don't know why, you know, it was the stress
of like essays and like different things. The weirdest thing
for me was at Actually I used to love to
get Doritos and Lifesaver gummies and I would actually like
just the nacho cheese Doritos and Lifesaver gummies and I
would eat them together, not like put one in the mouth,
like I would literally get a chip, put a couple
gummies on there, and then oh my god, the salty

(25:14):
sweet and the cheap amazing. That still sounds good to me.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Actually that is that sounds weird. Like the gummy chewiness
of the gummy is so good.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
It all mixes together. It's just like a mush and oh,
what do you love?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Jackie.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
The one thing that I always people always think is
like really strange. When I go to McDonald's, I always
get a side packet of honey, and so I dip
my fries in the honey. It's so delicious and it
sounds gross, but it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Like, what's the ratio of honey? Is it's just like
a little drop it or is it like.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Because I'm a Scooper, he's a dipper.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
No, you're like dipping it like it was ketchup.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
It kind of it kind of doubles as a dessert. Really,
it's really nice. It's like salty and sweet. It's really good.
Try yeah, and if you haven't, yeah, try it.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, we grew up in I grew up in Ohio,
which is where Wendy's is from. Wendy's is from Columbus, right,
and so there's a lot of Wendy's everywheretries and frosty
was very common. Yeah, very common.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
That's yeah, that's pretty normal.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I would say my strange one. I've got a couple
with the strange one that actually is delicious. And if
you're from where I'm from, even just like I'm not
even talking to Ohio, I'm talking like my county. It's
very normal. They serve it in school for like lunch
from time to time. Chili like chili soup, right, chili
with peanut butter bread okay, and it sounds so strange,

(26:36):
but I genuinely did not know that that's not how
everybody in the entire place eats it until I left
my hometown. But here, Jackie, you're foodie. You can figure
this one out. Think about this. You got the heartiness
in the acidity of the chili, and it's got a
little kick to it, a little spice, right, and then

(26:57):
creamy peanut butter on a piece of like white bread
or wheat bread. They kind of balance each other out
in a weird way. It's odd, but it's really good.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
A lot of Thai restaurants kind of have like ramen
with peanuts, you know what I mean, like actual peanut butter.
So I could kind of see that in some way.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Think about like a like a sattee like or like
a tie like it's literally peanut butter on noodles with meat.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
So it's not that insane, it's not.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
It's not Try something, yeah, something about chili just like
chili and peanut butter.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Just weird.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Nice bullet chili in the fall, Like we used to
do these big chili cookouts and the entire neighborhood would
come and pour like their pot of chili into this
big cast iron like cauldron over it open fire, and
everybody's chili would mix, and they just stir up a
big wooden like ore.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
And gluts of peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
No no, and then people would just get scoops of
chili and it ended up being really really good.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
The secret.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, it's really good and chili. I can't believe
we're talking about food this much, but sour cream and chili.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh no, totally to Yeah, I'm like a sour cream
and onions and like cheddar cheese on top.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Of every and it can be turkey chili because I
like turkey chili.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, you're trying to sell us all that turkey. It's
so good, okay, anonymous female. I can't say that word.
We don't say that word from where I'm from. Anonymous
female from that state up north. I'm a graduate of
the Ohio State University. Here say that word, all right,

(28:30):
we say, we say muck Fischhigan. Figure it out. I'm
cheating on my husband whoa with characters from Wait Wait
wait wait, with characters from romance novels. It started as
crushes on various characters, then became sex dreams. About them,
And now I don't orgasm from sex with my husband

(28:52):
unless I close my eyes and picture the men from
the covers of my romance novels. Is that messed up?
I think it's probably more common than we realize.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Maybe not, Yeah, maybe not necessarily romance novels, But I
feel like there's people who probably think about other people
during sex. I guess where I'm a little thrown is
they said that they can orgasm like it all from
sex with their husband unless they pictured it. I can
see an occasional but maybe I'm I'm not judging, but

(29:24):
that I don't know. It's a little I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Well, it sounds like if you're looking to romance novels
that often, I think it's because there's something Probably they're
lacking relationship, so you're already seeking it somewhere else. And
for a lot of people who maybe have an aversion
to like pornography or having an open relationship or some

(29:48):
sort of other like you know, arrangement in their marriage
or their relationship, I think that historically romance novels have
been the way to go. Yeah, I think that it
makes perfect me. I don't think it's cheating at all,
and I don't think. I don't think that even thinking
about somebody else during sex is cheating, but it could

(30:09):
be an indicator of something deeper that you might want
to explore and have a conversation about if your partner's
willing to because there's something lacking. I think Jackie thoughts
as the only person.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Here I've been married.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
No, I agree with everything that you said. Aj I
think is it considered cheating? Not necessarily, but I feel
like that kind of that will only lead to cheating
if you continue that pattern and you're imagining other people
while you're having sex with your husband. It's saying that
your husband's not satisfying you in that way. Like, okay,
so maybe you do it once or twice, but there

(30:44):
needs to be a moment where you have that conversation.
Maybe not say hey, I'm thinking of other people, but hey,
I would really like for us to do things that
are a little bit more romantic, because that's just gonna
right now, it's characters from novels. Tomorrow's going to be
somebody that she needs at a market.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
You know, maybe I will say that because where I
come from is pretty pretty conservative, and even if it
doesn't lead to actual physical cheating to somebody else. If
it just stays in this romance novel space forever, I
think you're still like just checked out of the relationship
to some degree, you're not getting something.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Well for yeah, and I think for me, and like
you said, at some point, I think there would have
to be a conversation, like you said, Jackie, with your
partner where it doesn't hurt their feelings, but like if
it's to the point where you cannot orgasm without thinking
about these characters. And again to this person who submitted anonymous,
We're not judging you at all, but I don't know
your relationship, but at some point, I feel like there's

(31:42):
to be a conversation because if you don't like AJ's saying,
it feels like you are lacking something if you're reading
these romance novels all the time. And I remember back
in the day, like it's funny because there's romance novels
and then there's like growing up in school, I remember
there would be like the black novels, like the black
romance novels. It was like by and it will be
like a whole bunch of like sex scenes in there

(32:02):
and like everything so there's different types. Did you read those?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
No, no, but the girls in school did. I was
still trying to be straight and like straightened, not anyway.
But I know for a fact that if you aren't
able to at least occasionally be satisfied by your partner
by actually thinking about your partner, there there has to
be some deeper issues there. And we've experienced with different

(32:30):
older couples in our life where it's just sometimes a
generational thing where they don't feel comfortable when they have
issues talking about like the issues that they have, or
going to therapy or different things like that, and then
the other thing. And I think this is why we
love having some of these conversations on the podcast, because
we have people who listen of all ages, and I
think it's just we try to talk about our relationships
sometimes because we are pretty open and honest with each

(32:52):
other and transparent, and that may not be best for everyone,
but I think there has to be some level of
transparency and honesty.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, never works in your relationship. You've actually been married, Jackie,
have you ever found yourself like during sex thinking to
somebody else.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
No, I think more so alone time by myself. I
would go there but I I purposely would never because
you know, like sometimes your brain could go like go
back to an old memory. I'll shut that down real quick. Personally,
I just I don't want to be intimate with somebody
else or with someone and be thinking about somebody else.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Have you ever thought of somebody else during sex with me?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
First of all? First of all, I love how he's striking.
Have you ever thought about he's he? We both have,
so Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Just want to know if you're gonna because I've definitely
thought of others what I've had sex with him.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
But for me, though, I'm never I don't. I can
honestly say I've never like exclusively thought about somebody else
like while knowing it with him. It's more so for me,
and we we talked about this before with each I
don't know we ever said this like here, but like,
I love the idea. So if if if I'm thinking
about somebody, am like I'm just thinking like we're all
there together even though it's just me and him, but

(34:03):
it's not. And that's also something though where that's not
like an every time thing, that's like an occasional thing
in a mood.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
But like and also it's like a passing thought. Usually
it's not right. I'm constantly thinking about like one person
like right, it's it's maybe. It goes through my mind.
I don't sort of fight it off. And I also
I know that it also turns you on. It's a
kink that we both share.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
So that let me tell you something for this woman.
If you you're not you're in Michigan. But if you
ever come out to LA and go to Equinox, I
won't say the Equinox, but Fabio is there. You were
want to say that Fabio is there all the time.
If you are at a certain age and you don't
know who Fabio is, that means you're really young. But
Fabio used to be on the cover of every romance

(34:46):
novel with his hair just flowing. He's still jacked, he's great,
he drives like this fancy sports car.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
He's married. She does not need that temptation.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Oh her. Yeah. Oh, she ain't go on the equus
in LA, and she doesn't even know which one he
goes to stay. Yeah, you're right, she might be staying.
She's like she stays for a month long trip and
she goes to everyone every single day waiting from outside.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Her marriage is over because we'll confess your mess.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay our next She's like, oh, then that's a fabio.
This next secret they say their name is T, just
the letter T. They're a male. Okay, okay, spill the tea.
They said this is a secret and a hot take.
They put hot take in all caps. But I am
not a fan of Queer Eye. Love the guys and
everything they stand for and do for their heroes. But

(35:37):
years ago I watched the first season cried my eyes
out on every episode. After a while, the episode began
to blend together and it lost it spark. Not sure
if y'all watched last watch the show. But what do
y'all think I'll start. I think I think that with
any show, especially a reality show, you fall in love

(35:57):
with you know the people on there, and that type
of show is kind of like a doc you follow
in a way episode, episodic or standalone, but you fall
in love with these people on the show. I think
when you're watching shows, I don't think it's like a
bad thing. Sometimes people fall in love with the show
and they're able to watch multiple seasons, and sometimes I
get what you're saying, Like the spark or whatever you
fell in love with for that show can go away.

(36:21):
I don't. I don't think that needs to be Are
you saying because maybe you're a gay guy, and yeah,
that's not that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, I don't really have much of a comment. I
was up for that show at the time, which was,
you know, interesting, and I was really close and it
didn't work out, and it's they got exactly the five
people they should have gotten, and they're all, like I think,
they're unique and interesting in their own way. I watched
like one episode I think years ago, and it wasn't
really my vibe.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It just for me.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
It just wasn't wasn't where I'm at. It doesn't really
do a whole lot for me. But I know that
the show has helped a lot of people around the world.
So if it's not for you, it's not for you,
that's fine, And if it is, it is, that's great.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
We watch a lot of like other like we we
watch a lot of reality shows like Selling Sunset and
Real Housewives and things like that. Sometimes I think because
we're we're in the space of helping people already, like
in other ways, we don't necessarily need to.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
And also I host a national talk show five days
a week on a queer radio station, and we talk
about these issues four hours hours a day. So sometimes
it feels it can feel like too close to home.
They got a little traumatic sometimes to watch something like
Queer Eye, where every single week they're going through and
like having these heartbreaking stories and fighting for rights and
all this and talking about like queer rights and all

(37:37):
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
And that's great, but.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Sometimes, like you said, I just like to watch Selling
Sunset or Real Housewives of New Jersey and like just
escape for a bit and not really think about issues.
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah. I think with shows like that though too, when
they come out right out the gate, they make such
an impact. But as time goes on and as those
those hosts get more popular, the magic kind of fizzles,
you know what I mean. You can't keep that energy
for that many seasons, and it'd be like one hundred
percent authentic. People are just like, all right, we've seen it,

(38:08):
and you're now forcing these storylines.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
You know. Well, because also I think season one, I
think probably something with any of these shows, there are
these new characters that are like you and me, and
they kind of represent us sitting at home on the
couch watching and that's cool. But by season three or four,
they live in multimillion dollar homes. They've got endorsement deals everywhere. Yes,

(38:33):
they're all over there.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
I will say the reality, I will say it's a
little different. But the thing that stays true is they
might get bigger, but the people that they're helping are
still like that. So I think that's what keeps the magic.
And but they're still getting multiple Emmy nominations and wins,
so they're fine. And also, I'm just saying all this
to also say, the three of us are very talented hosts,
so we would keep the magic alive from multiple seasons

(38:56):
for any show that you hire us for, just in
case anyone's listening.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It's not easy. Though they've won Emmys, they've been around
for years. I mean they're doing something very right.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
But uh yeah, Okay, next secret.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Next secret. And this is our final secret before Jackie Secret.
This person nervous.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Your palms will start sweating right about now, just to
prepare it.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I will let you know I'm sweating in this shirt,
but that's because the A C is off. Okay, this
person is called iced in parentheses spilled the and then
close parentheses t so iced spill the T more t
and uh right more t. They're a male, they're pan sexual.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Wait what's this from?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
T T T T T T T T T T
T T T T T. Name that movie, go, Jackie,
I don't know what y'all talking about. You don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
It's from easy favorite movie of all time besides Brides.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Mean, yeah, I was gonna sayri is my favorite, but
easy A. It's so it's like a seed like twat.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I've seen it multiple times.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I don't remember that family.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
For some reason, I have like a weird crush on
Stanley Gucy. Sometimes not in every movie, but sometimes like
the Hunger Games with the blue ponytail.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
He could get it.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
No, no, no, that was like the one movie where
he could not my bad, my bad, the capital bad.
He was not hot in Hunger Games. Okay, uh male
pan sexual Washington d C. They said this is a
secret at the beginning of my hookups, but not if
they last. I love ice cube play. It turned me
the fuck on ice cubes, in the puss ice cubes,

(40:30):
in the booty ice cubes, up and down my shaft
or my partner shaft. Have you ever have you ever
done ice cube play?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
You know what's so funny? As a younger girl, I
would read Cosmo all the time, right, and they would
give you like tips and tricks on what's sexy and
what people like. And that was one of the things,
like ad ice, it'll like be cooling down there, YadA, YadA, YadA.
So I've done it once like before, like you know,
doing what just to be like sexy. But it was fine.

(41:02):
It wasn't anything crazy. But I've had somebody do it
to me and it's it's so funny because this was
years ago. It's wonderful, Like the cooling sensation down there
is like, oh, you're gonna like you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Do you so?

Speaker 3 (41:16):
But I haven't done it in forever.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Do you remember there was I think it was you
you Drew and Shanada Old Clever where I told you
guys after we watched Fifty Shades of Gray, AJ tried
to do some stuff and it went horribly wrong.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
It was horribly wrong.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
It went horribly wrong. I remember there being he it
was some ice involved at some point, and I just
remember he had like we were trying some things and
so I my mouth was full.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I thought it was Christian gray for like an entire.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Way, and he was not. It was not a sleigh.
And I literally remember, I don't know if I had
like a what'd you put like a sock sockball in
my mouth or something something to be hot or whatever,
And I just remember like forcing it out with my
tongue so I could talk about okay, stop stop, it
was not it. I have very sensitive nipples. I will

(42:03):
say I don't remember exactly what went wrong because that
was so long ago, but I have veryssive aggressive they're
always so whenever anybody sees.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Me, you're like a fembot from Austin Powers.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
They always the shoot. So just imagine like a touch
or tongue is one thing, but then ice on top
of that is just it's it's the sensations are just
too do you.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Like because you bought nipple clamps one time.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
And we've never used, so you're just gonna blow me up.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
You're gonna you're gonna talk about how bad I am
in bed, and.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I I never said you're bad in bed. Just we're clear,
I say you were not Christians.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
It was a rough month.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Back the Super I don't even know. That's not we've
done kinky stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I don't know what clamps, and they're like literally hanging
out on his night stand with you.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Do you remember when I got the nipple clamps. I
got the nipple clamps, and I got like all this
uh like, uh, I'm not gonna go into the different
loops and stuff. We got so many different things, different things.
I had like flower rose petals all over the bed
and everything. That was for Valentine's Day because he told
me he was out of town. He was like, we
never do anything for Valentine's Day. I want you to
do something special. I go to pick him up from

(43:10):
the airport, had our dog, Kingston in the back seat.
Kingston's eyes was so excited to see him, and he
was excited to see Kingston. He put his phone on
the roof and then we drove off the phone.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Do you remember the story my brand new iphes.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
So he literally lost his phone that day. We got
home and he's freaking out because like, oh, I don't
have my phone. I felt so bad.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
By the time I walked into the bedroom, I looked
at the meal and I said, I had tears welling
up in my eyes. That phone costs like sixteen hundred
bucks and.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I had it was brand new.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah, I had like tears welling up my eyes. I
just go off a flight. I'm exhausted. He's trying to
be sweet and like has like this whole thing planned
out for me. And I was like, Emil, I love you.
You're being so sweet right now. It's it's Valentine's Day.
I'm really sorry you brought the dog. I'm so happy
to see you. I just need a minute to like
take a breath. And so I walked into the bedroom
to get away and let like not destroy all Valentine's Day.

(43:58):
And I walk in there and as soon as I
see everything, I start bawling. I'm like, now I'm ruining
it at all.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
It was horrible. It was off drove all the way
back to lax looking for my phone. And then the
next day is when he discovered there were chocolate covered
strawberries in the friend.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
That had him getting worse and worse.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I was like, fire, wow.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I asked him to do the sweet thing, and then
I ruined everything.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
So I will never do that again. All right, we
are going to take a quick commercial break and when
we come back. We are going to hear Jackie's confession.
All right, welcome back, Jackie. Take a couple of deep breaths.

(44:39):
This is the big moments.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
So this is why our listeners are here. They just
they fast forward through most of this just to get
to this moment. It's time for you too confess your mess.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Okay, So how much backstory? How much time do I
have so I don't sound crazy out the gate just
telling my secret?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
How much time?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Because there's a backstory.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Okay, make it a quick backstory and then a secret
or all of it. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Okay, Well, my secret is is that I may or
may not have hung out with somebody while I was married,
that I, now that i'm divorce, may be hooking up
with Wait, you guys, that was like the fakest like gas.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
No, I didn't know this.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Wait pause. So when you say when you say hung out,
just like hang we just hung out? Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
But let me break it down because okay, so to
be fair, it wasn't fake.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Like I know your ex and I know that you
guys don't work together, and I'm not friends with your ex,
but I like your ex. So there's the real reaction there,
I'm kind of like, oh, so go ahead.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I pride myself on being very loyal, never like cheated nothing, Okay,
So I just say that with I just say that
to enter this conversation. But what happened was I used
to work out at this gym with my friend, with
my friend I'm not gonna say any names with with

(46:15):
my friend. And while I was going to that gym,
there was a man that was there and he clearly
was like interested. He you know, said hello, and that's
kind of how we like met each other. But nothing
came of it. It was just, you know, he went
to the same gym as me. The next time I
went to the gym, he invited me to go to
a game, a basketball game. And at this point, I'm like,

(46:38):
does he know I'm married? So I told him clearly.
I was like, hey, I don't know, not to be
presumptuous or anything, but I'm married. If you want to
hang out with me, it would be just on a
friendship level. And he was like, yeah, yeah, cool, cool cool.
But I knew that he was interested.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Right were you wearing that little red two piece from Mexico?
You know?

Speaker 3 (46:57):
You know, I was I was in workout pants.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I was.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
He's probably like, anyway, Jackie has body, YadA YadA, YadA,
have you done?

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Wants lord carry on?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
So he invited me to the game, and I knew
it was wrong, even though I said, I was like, hey,
I can't go with you by myself. I need to
invite a friend, you know, out of respect for my husband.
And he was like, yeah, bring a friend. But I
already knew that was like not something that I should
do because I felt like guilty about it, and I
knew it was bad because I did not tell Nick

(47:32):
who invited me to the game. Oh, I said, wait, oh,
give my ex husband is yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Also, we can bleep his name if you want us
to do that.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
No, it's fine, it's fine. So I went to the
game knowing that like I wasn't being truly honest. And
that's the first time I ever lied in my marriage. Okay,
this was my first time I ever lied, and I
felt really bad about it because we've always been honest,
and the good thing about me and my ex is
that we've always been able to like hang out with

(48:00):
like the opposite sex. There was a lot of trust
there and it was never like a question. Right, We're
just open like that. But this was the first time,
for whatever reason, I knew like, hey, this man invited
me to, you know, an NBA game, Like can I go?
Like I knew he would be like nah, So I
just didn't say it. I was like, Oh, Jaden's friend
gave us tickets and we're gonna go to the game.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
He's like, all right, cool, wait Jane your hot model friend. Yeah, yeah,
she's on she's literally on a huge on the side
of the grove right now, a gorgeous photo of person's
so stunning.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
So beautiful. So Jaden came with me and we went
to the game and it was fun. It was like
very like, you know, just a regular hangout. But what's
funny is now that I'm separated, that same guy I've
hooked up with a couple of times, so like, if
you really put the whole story together, it's like, oh,
did you, like are you premeditating like hanging out with

(48:52):
But anyway, that's my secret.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Was it were they?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Uh? Just was it like a box seat? Was it
court side and the nosebleed seats up on the rafters?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Like where were you?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
He took us out on the court. We got to
like close to the players. It was very much like
VIP treatment.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Oh I'm asking, like I didn't know because I remember that,
I remember the photos. At the time, I was like,
oh Jackie's court side. Oh wait a minute, I never
knew this story.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
If that's if that's what you feel guilty about in
your relationship, you're fine.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, don't.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I mean really yeah. I mean earlier on in our
relationship there was like somebody who was sort of like
an X situation in my life that we hung out
and try to be friends, and I would always be like, no,
it's I would tell a meal. But I was like,
it was totally fine, No, it's fine, we're just friends.
And we were, but like it wasn't like I shouldn't
have been doing it. It was disrespectful to a meal.
And at the time, it was early in our relationship,

(49:46):
and I was like, at some I thought one of
two things. One, I thought the heat a meal at
some point was going to want to explore and try other,
you know, dating scenarios out with other men because I'm
the first and only person he's ever gone in the
date with. So I was like, I got my twenties
to like be a hoe and at some point he's

(50:06):
going to want to do that. So I kind of
convinced myself, like, this is crazy. He's going to wake
up one day and realize you're not the one. So
I kind of always had like, like the door a
jar just in case I needed an exit strategy. And
then also I think that Emil was so sweet and kind,
especially early on in the relationship. I mean, he's salty
as fuck now, but back then he was totally kidding,

(50:28):
but like I wasn't used to that.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
So I was like, I don't deserve he didn't know
what he deserved.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
He had a dime over here, genuinely, I.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Thought I had a nickel, and uh not a nickel. Wait.
I always wondered that when they say, oh, a dime,
like I don't want to be a dime. I want
to be like one hundred dollars, but I want to
be whatever the highest denomination is.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
With There's a bar that used to be near us
called the Dime.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Is that why?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Oh it's still there's still there?

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Is it still there? I thought, do you remember we
all went there for AJ's birthday, like right before or
the pandemic. Well, the year before the pandemic and we
had the best time. Well, it got a little crowdit, believe.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Didn't we end up like dancing on a couch with
Geenie My she was there one night? Were you there
that night?

Speaker 1 (51:12):
No, I've been there you.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Oh maybe I was with Canelia, who's been on our pod,
who's in my wedding party, and the time that we
went together, and I think maybe Sophia might have been there.
We were all of a sudden because a picture popped
up recently on my memories or something somewhere, and it
was Connelia Genie and I hammered like falling off the
side of a couch.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Interesting said, the dime is a good time.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Every time I go to the Dime, something exciting happens.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
So they need to lower their capacity by about twenty five. No,
that's well maybe, well maybe now with post post code,
well we're still kind of in COVID. Maybe now they can't.
I could be in that place is tiny and I
would not want to be breathing all those.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Hellic COVID anyway, But yellow particles.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
I don't think that you did anything wrong, especially it
will be for me personally, honestly, Jackie Is it was
a situation where because I think even if you were like,
I don't know, this guy's into me, the fact that
you said, I'll come, but I need to bring a
friend to me personally, that was very respectful.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Did it lead to your divorce?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
No? No, no, no, no no no exactly. Do have
nothing to worry about. Yeah, I don't. I don't think
that you did it.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Also, can you still get courtside tickets?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Is what I want to know.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
We may, we may at a game here and there if.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
You ever need another third wheel. I love sports. Now
wait a minute, I don't know. Listen, I don't love sports,
but I'll come. I can't tell you who I know.
Lebron you, Kyle Kuzma, he plays for? No, okay? Uh?
D Wade he retired guy? Who am I thinking of?
You know some Lakers? Come on? Give me just give

(52:47):
me a first letter. Oh oh oh Anthony Anthony uh
uh oh, Davis Davis, Anthony.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Davis, Steph Curry? Okay who that's Golden State?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
But who's my crush?

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Your crush? Oh? Oh? Russell Westbrook that's right that he
plays for. Okay, y'all listen, hold on you put my
put my sports voice on. Yeahs will say this.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Guess what what, Jackie? I think you you might know this,
and this is a little bit of tea about our wedding.
We're being dressed and custom looks created by somebody who
designs for Kyle Kuzma and Dy Wade.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Fancy, you'll see the looks. Fad You'll see the looks.
That's honey, we got some connections.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Listen. I already knew that y'all were gonna come next level, okay,
like I would not expect anything less. And you know,
earlier I said I was excited about like being with everybody,
but what y'all are going to look so sharp and sexy.
It's gonna be so good.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I'm very excited. I'm very excited. And I love that
you said your favorite You're like, what you're most excited
about is like obviously to celebrated this, but like that
you're gati vacation. And that makes me because literally, when
we chose our destination originally AGCA at Mexico, I was like,
I don't know, but he made a good point. He
was like, you know, if people are gonna spend the
money to fly especially, we were thinking for family, at
least for family to fly to LA they're gonna have

(54:13):
to spend so much money on the flights, the hotel,
and then their food every single day. And we were like, okay,
so far our LA friends is gonna be a bit
of a journey. But for everybody else in our wedding,
they're actually getting and you guys are getting vacations, like
everybody gets to not just enjoy the wedding.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
It's like a full But most of our LA friends,
to be fair, most of our wedding party, we knew
we would be down because we've traveled to Mexico multiple
times with all of you, like my wedding party, like Michaela,
we've been to Mexico together. Sophia and CONNELI went to
the resort and helped us. They've been there, they've seen
the resort. They helped us pick it out last year.
So like we knew you'd all my invite to that.

(54:48):
Where is my So yeah, so it looks like we
almost out of the time. Actually, that's so weird. Time
flies when we're having fun. Jackie Grubbs, thanks so much
for stopping by.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
We have but every single episode, we like to do
one thing at the end, forget you always forget this part.
So from this episode, from this almost hour that we've
spent together, what would you say is your takeaway of
the day, something that really stuck with you from this episode,
this podcast.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
I think what I would take away is from y'all too.
I love how open you guys are with each other
in your relationship, how you communicate and try new things,
and I think that's just a beautiful thing. You know,
some people there's a stigma of like, oh I can't
like that, or I can't talk to my partner about that.
And I think it's so special that how crazy it
may be or how it might be like scary to

(55:42):
tell your partner certain things that you like. You guys
do that, and you guys respect each other and you
hear each other out, which I think is so great,
which I want to take into my future relationships, Like, Hey,
I want nipple clamps, and you know what, if you
think it's weird, it's fine, but I need takes press
and you need to try it with the on least one.
You know, you know that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
That's your promo, you know that, right that is going
to be your pro.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Thank you so much Jackie for joining us. We appreciate it,
we love it. We can't wait to see you in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Love you guys, See you there.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Confess Your Mess is a Strawhead Media podcast produced by
Ryan Tillotson and Frank Driscoll. Thank you so much for listening,
and don't forget to subscribe and share.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
And if you have a secret you want to share,
go to confessor Mess dot us to submit your secret
could end up in the show Comes Your Man,