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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw media lipstick. Oh much better now people want to
fuck me?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
That's a good intro right there.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I know I need some chapstick, my lipstick, Ryan, I
was looking for it and I could not find it.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
If I were lipstick, would you would you want to
fuck me?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let me what color?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That just depends.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, I need to know the color. And that was determined.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Listen, you put on heels from me one time and
I wanted to do some things and then the heels
had to come off.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, it was. It was a turn on at the start.
And then something happened midway through.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Can you guess who our guest is by the live?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Uh? Well, I know who the guest is because we've
booked her.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I was kind of talking to the people at
home what.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
They probably know? Theyd all the titles, dang, I always
forget that part. All right, we have a very exciting
episode for you all today. We love we have comedians,
talented comedians on the podcast because we love to laugh.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I don't have to preface that if we had untalented
comedians before. No, no, I.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Do you have to preface that. But no, we have
the amazing Jade Kada Breda. Come man. If you don't
know Jade, she is. Actually she's been around for a while.
Right before the pandemic, she hosted the iconic E Network
show The Soup. It was the revival of the show,
(01:24):
got a lot of press for that. She actually has
a new show that's coming out on Hulu is a
dating show that we're going to talk about called Hotties.
Very excited to hear what that show is about. What
makes it different from other shows? Because Ajan and I
love a good dating show.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well I thought you were gonna say we love hotties.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh, well, we do love hatties, not too but you
also love a good dating show. And then your resume,
I mean, dear God, like I'm looking at your violence like.
She was a series regular on this, This, This, this, this,
So we have two Broke Girls, we have oh No.
Guest starred on Two rot Girls, Life and Pieces with
My Friend Jenna, worked on Modern Family, she was a
series regular, and then have Love Story, American Housewife. She's
(01:58):
recurred Future Man like It Goes On. You also have
hosted on Daily Pop and at Midnight on Comedy Central.
You're a guest judge on Cooking with Netflix, and this
is really impressed with me. This next one. I mean,
they're all impressive, but you've appeared in over forty national commercials. Well, Jay,
thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Your resume is impress I will say. Also the soup reboots,
I loved you on and I listen reboots and then
reimagining the shows. It's tricky, you know, at best. And
and Joe McHale was so great for so many years.
I will see this. I went to one taping years
and years and years ago, and he was He was
(02:35):
one of the reasons I got into TV hosting. I
wanted to remember that be that and it's changed a
lot in recent years, and we're finally starting to see
more women get these opportunities that that men got for
so long. But I wanted to shout that out for
a moment because that's a big deal. That's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh thanks man. Yeah, it was definitely like a lot
of big shoes to fill. People were like, yeah, bitch,
is jab different from him? Yeah, I'm so different from him.
And I actually love reality TV, and so I kind
of like made fun of it in a different way,
you know what I mean. I was like kind of
looking up at it versus like you know, like so
it's just a totally different feeling. And I think, you know,
(03:12):
I don't know, COVID killed, it.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Kill a lot of things. And I also think it's
interesting because there's so many reboots nowadays that are reboots
of iconic shows that I almost feel like you're doing
a disservice to whoever's going to step into those shoes
now because to reboot things that have been traditionally like
whatever male dominated or white dominated or whatever it may
have been back in the day, and to reboot it
(03:35):
and try to put somebody else in the I feel
like you're almost setting people off for failure sometimes like.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well bet yeah, they're like like we took over the
old social media too, like where it was like people
that are like really big Joe McHale fans, and they
were like, what is it? What is it? Yeah, we're
not into it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah. We're going to learn a lot more about you today,
and we're also going to break down some secrets. If
this is your first time here, this is con Fatter
Your Mess. This is a podcast where we take listeners
submitted secrets and confessions. Sometimes they are anonymous sometimes they're not.
We get voice admissions and you can go to confess
your mess dot us.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's right. You can submit there and you can let
us know as much or as little about yourself as
you'd like, as you're comfortable with. And then we will react,
the three of us in real time because we've not
seen these secrets ahead of time. Yeah, producer Frank, they
source all of them for us. So Jade's going to
find out these secrets and react in real time just
as we will. And then, yes, the climax, if you will,
(04:29):
of this podcast will be Jade's confession at the end
of the podcast, so make sure you stick around for that.
She's going to share with us something that that either
nobody or not many people know about.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm very excited to hear the secret. Frank Sai is
the good one, Okay, but I love.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
To overshare, so it's hard to come up with them.
It was hard to come up with THEE.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
We get that one a lot. Actually, we have some
guests on here, like I had to think about a secret,
and like, that's the point. You want to get that
one thing out of you that you haven't told anybody,
but in order to trust you with our our messengers,
secrets and confessions. That's what we call our listeners. We
love and adore them in order to trust you with those,
to know that you can hang. This is not your
(05:09):
big secret. This is a little, little, little secret. This
is more of like a vice. Maybe it's maybe it's
a food or a beverage or a person or a
habit that you know isn't really great for you, but
somehow you haven't been able to let it go. This
is your mess.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But yes, you guys are so cute. Yeah, you guys
are already married. By the way, you don't even have
known old couple.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Ye tell that to our bank account wedding budgets.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Sorry, wait, so now this is a little, just a
little secret, not my main one.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Like advice of yours or something that you do that
you know you shouldn't but you still do.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Anyways, Okay, I do this thing where I like to
sleep creep on my boyfriend, like when he's completely passed out.
I liked, that's what I like to like start getting
it on. We call it sleep creep.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Wait wait, wait, this sounds amazing. Tell more so, like
he's doing I get any ideas, So he's completely passed
out and then.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You like, so he's like pass out and then that's
when I start like kind of going for it and that,
and sometimes you know he'll most like he'll most oftentimes
wake up and go for it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Of course a man, Yeah, okay, you need to try
this on me.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
No. AJJ would love if I did that. He always should.
I make a confession from yesterday. I was at the
gym because we had a long day. We were in
podcast tapings and with the wedding planner and everything. So
I went to the gym at seven was there until
it closed at nine thirty. And at around eight forty five,
AJ is going to bed to go to sleep because
(06:40):
he hosts the National morning show and so he has
to be super like five am so and he says,
by the way, if you need some some D, some
D some D when you get home, just just come
on in and wake me up. And he says that
all the time, and I never do, so he's so even.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I even took it a step further last night. And
I don't know if you noticed this, I'm sure you
did what I had. So we have lamps on.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
My god dad, I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Lamp lamps on either. But I also took like a
half of a sleeping pill last night because I'm like,
I really needed to catch up on some sleep. So
I passed out. But we have lamps on either of
our nightstands that are connected to our our Amazon Alexa.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And there's coat bulbs inside.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So I said, you know, Amazon or Alexa, turn on
Emal's lamp to red red. Like if the red lamp
is on that I know exactly what's going down. So
if I ever walked in, I get that you should.
He's got the red lamp on. I know that he's
trying to get some And then I laid there and asked.
The sleeping pill kicked in Like every couple of minutes.
I was like, Alexa, dim lamp, Alexa, dim lamp. It
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was too bright for me. It was keeping me awake.
And then I dimmed it so much that I passed
out and I forgot.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
To passed out. Then I get home and I'm like,
I make a phone call to one of my best
friends catching up. I eat my food and I go
in there at around like eleven forty five and I
see the red lights on. I'm like, wait, Like normally
it's pitch black, and.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Three hours after it's really damned really red light.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So then I'm like, oh, we ship. The light's on
and I'm gonna be on my phone and so I'm
ready to fall asleep. Don't turn it off all of
a sudden, Like five minutes after me laying in the bed,
I hear like, and that's the sound. He makes it
like there's too much light, and I say, okay, I'll
turn it off. Then, so off the light. He got nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I did get sleep creep, no sleep creep over here.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But you know, it's like I remember when Tiger Woods
would be like on Ambien and then he would have
like crazy weird ambience sex. It's kind of like that
half air, half away, you know. I love like half
away and then you can go back. You know, you
gotta go pay first because you don't want to get
like I have. But it's better to do it in
the morning because you wake up.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Okay, see best part of Okay? Can I tell you
a secret?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Name your sheep?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Whoa?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Okay, this is a moment Jade, because can I tell
you that? Is this a clean show? So I had
a college boy for he knows this. Yeah, there's a
college boy friend I had that I thought I was
gonna marry him. Back of the day as my twenties
was like fifteen years ago. He was a hotty. He
cheated on me with somebody who was gross. But he
used to sing to me, I can't believe what I'm
saying this on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You sing it together.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Fine, the best waking up is age in your But
because I would try to get some every morning, and
most mornings he would let me get some, a meal
does not. I don't like morning. We only get two
mornings a week where we wake up together because I
have to get it up so early for my radio
showy Saturday and Sunday. I try to get some and
(09:36):
what I usually get is the apartment cleaned up and
the laundry done, and I get the dog outside to
go to the restroom while he slips in. That's what
I get.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, So I love that. I love that. I'm more. Yeah,
I'm more like a meal. I'm like, you go do
this morning stuff. I'll wake up slowly. I like, yeah,
I'm not a morning person. I wish I was, but like,
I don't like waking up that it's painful to me.
It's painful.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Let's go ahead and get into the secret again. We
haven't seen any of these secrets. Frank sourced them out
from our listeners submissions. First one is anonymous male uk okay, okay,
my mom breastfed me until I was five years old.
Never told anyone that. Oh wait a minute. By the way,
(10:19):
we normally have a theme for our episodes. This is
a wild card episode, so all of the secrets are
just random that Frank chose. I was not expecting that.
I think, you.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Know, that's too old.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I do want to know. I want to know from
both of you. Is there an age where you really
started to be cognitive and have like distinct memories. For me,
I barely remember three, but I really start remembering at four.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
No, because I'm an immigrant and I moved countries when
I was a kid, so like all my yeah, yeah,
like they're wiped and all the pot I smoke. So
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I will say that I didn't know you're Brazilian. I
guess I didn't. I didn't research that part. So one
I'll rega though Janana okay, okay, outside, I went to
Portcho last summer into like five words, I spent a
couple weeks with my best friend in port in Lisbon.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It was a fantastic word.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, cool, good morning.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That's all I know. But this is this is interesting
because I remember being about three years old. I remember distinctly.
I remember one time years ago, describing in great detail
to my mom or sister what our house looked like
that we moved out of when I was about four
or five. I went through every room and I said,
I remember, for some reason there being a TV sitting
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in one of the bedrooms when we moved out, and
I didn't understand why. And my mom was like, oh
my god, how did you know that. I was like,
because I was three or four? And she goes, there
was a broken TV that we left in like your
brother's room something like that, and I just remember being
a kid, like, why are we leaving this TV's and
it was broken and I did actually remember it. I
(11:52):
remember being very very very young, five years old breastfeeding
those interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Do you remember your but do you remember I remember
sucking your mom's brother.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, I don't think I actually breastfrond. I think maybe
she tried for a little bit, but one of them
you didn't well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So I don't like boobs that had ill like.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Oh, it's it. No, I don't want it, and I
still don't. But it's interesting though, because when I got older,
I was a smart ass kid, and every time i'd
get like a bad grade on the test or report
cards would come out, I would say to my mom, well,
if you didn't use formula and if you would have
stopped smoking, maybe my grades would be a little bit
higher faced on science, so.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Wow, and she would feel so bad that she would
never argue me. But also, but also I'm not saying
that one is.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I don't want to take sides.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
But I love you, Mama Cath. If you're listening, I
know you selectively listen to this podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, it makes her nervous. She gets very uncomfortable listening
to this podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I wonder why, right.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
We reveal everything. I don't remember being breastfed. I remember
like random things from when I was younger. I will say,
though this is unrelated, but related. Do you guys remember
I talked to a about this the other day. Do
you remember back in the day with the gott milk ads,
like they were just pushing milk on us so hard,
like so hard. And now I don't drink milk at all.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Oh? I haven't drunk milk since the nineties.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's real milk.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, oat milk. When I go to a restaurant they
don't have it, I'm like, what's.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I grew up in Ohio and we would have a
glass of milk with dinner every night. Oh, everybody did,
no matter what, and it was the most delicious thing
in the world to me. I thought it was so
much glass.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, Like at night I would get like my mom
would make like sweet milk, Like she put a little
sugar and warm it up. Oh, hot sweet milk.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's supposed to help you fall asleep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Is that an episode titled Hot Sweet Milk? Hot Sweet Milk?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Log it with Jade? Oh that's hot.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah. Next week Anonymous female, Los Angeles. Okay, we can
know this person.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Okay? I say that every week, and you drag me
whenever they're from Los Angeles, like maybe we know them.
He's like, you don't know if this person eight, they
shut up?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Anonymous Anonymous Hey, yeah, yeah, Anonymous, Oh right, okay. It
says I have general herpes and in all caps. Never
They said they never have sex. But I want to
so so bad. I'm so scared to tell a guy
and then have him reject me, so I just don't
even try.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think that's a real concern when when you.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Everybody has herpes.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah that part that part can we has like hashtag
normalized herpes.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, it's not a big thing. Just be honest with
your partner. Also, like are you broken out? Like are
you having a breath? Like, just manage your own things
with your medicine and make sure you're not having a breakout.
And like I think if you have sex for the
person for the first time and you're not having a breakout,
like you don't have the first time, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, you don't trust me. I think it comes down
to trusting somebody with that information before, you know, if
you can actually just trust them with any information, let alone.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That right, But you shouldn't feel bad now.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So we had a doctor Drew in the podcast recently
and we had a secret and it was something where
something happened when they were younger, and then you could
tell that they were still traumatized by it, and you know,
we don't know when they contracted herpes. But the problem
is if they didn't have the right people around them
to talk about, like how to navigate the situation, then
unfortunately they're going with this stigma of I can't have
(15:35):
sex or all these different things. And I know, I
know everybody's probably like, oh, you can google, you can
figure it out nowadays, but like some people, when you're scared,
you're like, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I remember when my sister got herpes. And I only
say that because she talks about this openly and she's
kind of taken it, you know, the power back, and
she she helps other women who are also kind of
going through that process. And she was so scared and
she found out because she had a breakout and she
was she was with you know, her boyfriend, and she
felt humiliated and embarrassed and just crying and thought, nobody
(16:05):
will ever ever ever touch me again for the rest
of my life. And the fact of the matter is,
like fifty percent of adults have herpes. Okay, thirty three percent,
but like or maybe the number was like fifty percent
of adults will have an STI at some point whatever.
But like, so a lot of people were living with
us every single day and it's very very managed. Well,
get on a cycle of her or whatever it is, BaltRex, whatever,
(16:28):
whatever you can get your hands on.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And also you like if you have herpes, you don't
have breakouts all the time now just constantly, like it
happens very rarely. Most people don't even get them like
so it's like the stigma needs to go away. I've
had I've had I've had HPV since I was like forty.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's like hello, right exactly. And I've had oral herpes
like cold source since I was six or so. I've
never had any breakout anywhere else, but I got it
from my mom gets cold source. You probably kised me
when I was a little kid, and she shouldn't have.
One time gave me a little smoch or something, and
then I got a first the breast meaning and now
(17:07):
this maybe I got a breastfeeding. You know, how are
your nippoles, Kathy, But I've had them my entire life
and I've just had to learn to manage it. And
what I found is that there's oftentimes to this listener
and this could work for you as well. Sometimes the
stress of will I break out? Will they find out?
Is actually more damaging to you than the actual symptom.
(17:30):
So for me, once I became an adult and found
oh and my mom never again. My mom didn't know
that there's medication for this. When I was grown up.
I just dealt with the cold sore a few times
a year. When I became an adult and realized, oh,
this breakout on my lip can be prevented with a pill.
Once I had the pills in my possession, I rarely
(17:51):
go years with that will breakout now, just because psychologically
I know that I'm going to be okay, because before
you get that tingle and you start to stress, stress, stress, stress, stress,
and then it's full, it's a full flare.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So tell her, what was the medication you said in
a vowel.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Trex. But a cycle of her is sort of the
generic brand, I believe, and I get mine through my
insurance and I pay like three bucks for a bottle
of the last.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Listener, anonymous woman in LA. Make sure you get that filled,
and then just having that in your purse or having
it with you maybe will make you feel more powerful
and go fuck.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
These men I mess or women whoever, whoever, or whoever.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, go FuG from from herpes and herpees breakouts to
a commercial break.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
That's what we're going to do, right, We're going to
do right now. All right, Well, that was an interesting
little commercial break. I'm very proud of that transition.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Was waiting the whole time to make that transitions out here.
I'm proud of that.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
You're so good. Hey, I should marry you.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Oh wait, I have a ring on my finger already.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Sir, Yeah, it makes one of us. Are you ready
for another secret?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yes? Okay, this is from anonymous female Connecticut. Silly String. Okay,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Whenever starts with silly string, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Silly string has been banned in my county since nineteen
ninety six, but I still order it on Amazon and
let my kids and their friends play with it in
the backyard. The fine is like one hundred dollars or something. Wait, wait,
I gotta google this right now. I mean, silly string,
I know is messy, But why would it be banned?
(19:35):
Silly string?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
It might be it might be like not good for
the environment. I mean, in that case, shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, balloons are terrible for the environment too.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Think about all the things that brought all to when
we were younger, and now they're like.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, mill environment milk, so many everything's done.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
We were sold so many lies.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Suw, We're just.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Adults with herpes living in our weird apartment life.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Wait, you guys what I look it up and it
says Southington passes modified Silly String band February thirteenth, nineteen
ninety six. This might be the place.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh what she did?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh crazy she said since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But why is a band there? Just some woman on
the county doesn't like it.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I don't know. It brought me to a weird article
that does not match.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
But you know what, there's a lot of weird things
like you know how there's not you are not allowed
to legally own a ferret in the state of New York.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Wait, what why you're not?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Ferrets are not allowed there. You're not allowed to own
one as a pet. So a lot of people have
like I listened to this like NPR once and so
people have this like underground ferret railroad. Why do you
own ferrets there? Who they're not allowed to? Wow? I
don't know why. It's a bizarre.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Okay, here's what hitter it says. This is on some
website that has eleven crazy laws. It says in Southington,
silly string is band. In the mid nineteen nineties, group
of children ran up to a police officer, to a.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Police officer and sprayed him the silly string during the
Apple Harvest festival. So they banned the product. Happen again.
If that's not the most privileged thing I've ever heard about,
You're in a ban.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Nothing to do with the environment, nothing like that, just
because they.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Some police officer at the apple Harvest festival had his
feelings hurt, so they so they thought that the city council,
the legislation legislators in that town would get together and
ban it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Were his feelings her? Or was he like weirdly blind
and like a man's life was changed that one harvest morning.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
This sounds like I.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Like that this woman also buys a silly string and
is like yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Because guess what back then they probably just stop selling
the stores in that county. But now she has Amazon, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Mean, shouldn't Amazon know about like laws not to.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Ship it there? Yeah? There, you know what it feels like.
It feels like the premise to the film Footloose Dancing
was banned many many years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But there was just one apple harvest. This guy was
trying to do a split or death drop punch me
in the faith?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did she just say death drop Jade? You're you're an ally?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That's how Dare you okay? I mean, if we're going
to talk RuPaul's drug.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Race, I mean, are you watching this season?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Are you yes? And but are you also who's your
favorite this season? Well, Willow Pillow or Bosco one?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Mosco's growing on me?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, Bosco's the it's the brows, the sharp eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Who's the girl that got had to get eliminated because
her knee was corn bread?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Corn bread the snack?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Who incredible? I was so so sad. Are you watching
UK versus the.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Hey, j We can't. We can't do.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
It's too much, too much, too busy. We literally very
very important. So we have a lot going.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I don't know if you've watched season twelve. We had
Jackie Cotts on the podcast. We just recently had on
the podcast and we had to confess to them that
season twelve was the first episode or first season the
drag race that we watch them now we're watching backwards
from there, so we're on season nine, right now, yeah, no,
season ten, I know, yeah, we're on season ten. And
then we realize we actually have to go and actually
(23:12):
start from season one because now every single season where
it's like and coming up, we have this winner from
Drag Race season eight. Really now we know who won.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
We keep getting spoilers.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Wait, you guys have to do all stars. You guys
have Amsterdam, you have Filipino, you have Spain, you have Australia. Like, listen,
you can't make it fast enough for me.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
We also have a life and we have to try.
We literally, here's here's what we do Friday nights when
we watch our new episodes. That's our RuPaul's Drag Race night. Yeah,
we'll watch a couple episodes of like season ten until
that episode comes out, and then we'll switch over and
watch the current one. I get confused by who's on
this season because I'm so confused with which season I'm
(23:51):
watching watching I get it simultaneously. Yeah, but also our
fear is that if we keep watching and reverse, the
quality will continue to deteriorate. So I feel like season
one out yeah right and then come back.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah yeah, season one was done in like it is
just so crusty, like they have like hula hoops and
beach balls. Like it's like the props are so like
a low levels.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Like full transparency. You we're just gonna put this out
into the universe. The only goal in life is to
get famous enough that we're asked to come on as judge.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Judge.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh my god, I've been begging them for years. Every
time Nicole Buyer is on it, I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Like, again, I know, she looks fantastic episode, she looks
so good. So you're a Drag Race fan. And then
I saw on your Instagram you will looked like it
was like back in twenty twenty. Problem when you're doing
press for the soup you went to watch What Happens
Live with Teresa. That's also one of our goals. We
want to be bartenders or yeah, just a bartender.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
How is that experience for you?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm obsessed with the Bravo universe and Teresa, Teresa and
Lisa Runner are like kind of my favorite to celebrities.
But uh, yeah, it was just incredible. She brought her
prisonmate with her to the show because yeah, because her
prisonmate is who got her really into fitness. Yeah, Bob,
Bob was the other Bob was the other guest on
(25:14):
the show. Yeah, yeah, who's so hot? And they were
just talking and I was just.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
About, what's your favorite of Real Housewives franchise? Is it Jersey?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
No, it's actually New York. New York is my favorite.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm good friends with the Countess. Her niece is one
of my best friends.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
So oh good. So when we need so we need
a connection to her to get her on the pod,
reach out to you.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Let me know. She would love to do it. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I love, love, love everything about her. She's wild and
she's interesting to me though, because some seasons she comes
across as like so detached and vapid, and then some
seasons she comes across it's.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like like, hey, who are we on Teresa Leui Anne?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Teresa has always she's exactly the same all the time.
She's like, there's not a ton of evolution going on
with Teresa Judice, and I don't want her to. I
love her just the way she is. But Leu Anne
is interesting because I feel like as she's kind of
she's kind of come into her own later in life,
Like she was the Countess for so long and she's
had these ups and downs and this public humiliation of
(26:21):
this failed marriage, and and and it really sort of
humbled her. And I've really enjoyed her the last season
of New York and also Ultimate Girls Trip. I really
really love I.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Wish they would make so many more of her.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I know, well they're doing the bluestone manner, yes, but
I just feel like lou Anne finally I've been I've
been watching her like sort of hate watching her for
many years, but the last couple of seasons, I'm like,
oh my god, I genuinely actually care about her now, and.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I really I really love her. She's such a like
she's very maternal. That's what you don't obviously get that.
And but she's very close to my friend who's her niece,
and she's just like, you know, she's like very maternal energy,
which is but she's very intimidating. I used to help
and for her cabaret.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
My gosh, yeah, right, did you wear Givannie?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah? I was at the music video shoot for Feeling
Joe Vanni, and I have to say, my mind was
they did they did any thing where it was a
catwalk and she does the catwalk, and then Cynthia does
the catwalk very and then Lisa comes out and she's
like feeling herself. I was like, I'm Lisa, That's who
I want to be.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
So many things.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And now the Countess has actually not to like do
a little shout out, but she has a line of
non alcoholic rose and I and I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
She's like embracing that, like listen, how to embrace it
and also make a little bit of money off of it.
So good for her.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, it's great. It actually tastes really good, and it's
got herbs and stuff, and you can, you know, because
I'm not drinking during the week and I get so bored.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, so same, I hear.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I recommend that we'll have to get I haven't tried.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You haven't tried.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You just know about it.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
No, we had doctor Tiffy Moon from of Dallas send
us some bottles of wine recently. That was really that
was good. It was real wine.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, it was real wine. It was definitely alcohol. Its
delicious and candles and the candles were amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay, that's sweet. Let's get to the next secret. We
have two more before we get to Jade's secret. Anonymous
mail Nevada.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You say Nevada. I knew you were going to say,
oh you my grandmother.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Hey, how do you say it?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Nevada? Nevada, Nevada, Las Vegas, Nevada.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, Nevada.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
My best friend is from there, and she says Nevada.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So like I said previously anonymous mail, Nevada, I only
washed my hands after I pe is cleaner than water? Right,
Absolutely not, sir. Let me tell you something. Anytime I'm
at the gym and I see a guy used I'm
washing my hands, and I see I use a urinal
and then they leave straight from the urinal and go
back out to the weights. That is so disgusting. It
(28:52):
is so disgusting that you just touched your dick. I
don't care how clean you think your dick is. You're
leaving the urinal area where you just touched your probably
sweaty dick, and you're gonna go touch the weight that
I have to didn't touch. It's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It doesn't turn you on a little, No, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Okay, good guy, sweat dick? Yeah, I agree. Just give
it a little, rent, right, you don't need to go
all out, just give it a little.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And didn't we do a whole thing with the panoramas,
like saying you need to, like we realized that people
weren't washing their hands. Some people weren't washing their hands
at all.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
So okay, so I have an unpopular opinion. Oh god,
So anytime we're at a gym or a movie theater
or something, I see somebody use the restroom not wash
their hands. It disgusted me immenseally. And I always always
wash my hands in public.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And when we started dating that first you didn't used
to wash your hands after your pee, Yes I did.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No, you didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yes, I could call you out.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We are not going to the podcall your ass out.
Your memory and something that your memory, let's finish enter
into your elder years. But I said, whoa, my wow,
might have this.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You could only hope this remembrance to look this good
and be this sharp at my age.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Do you want to make it to that?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I would just say, whatever he's saying right now might
not be factual. Finish, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So I used to drag him in the earliers because
he wouldn't always wash his hands. That I would say
it to him like I was his mother.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
May not be true.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
And then may as we got further into our relationship,
I find that I'm the one that sometimes doesn't wash
my hands anymore after I go because here's the thing.
I keep it down there. I keep it really clean, gorgeous,
smells lovely, nothing dirty about it. And also when I
go to the restroom in my own home, I might
(30:31):
touch it with like two fingers and I'm not like,
it's not like I'm touching the end of it. It's
not like I'm touching that. It's just it's just skin.
So it's really no different than going this and touching
your skin.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's it literally enveloped in underwear and unless you're free bawling,
and it's just like just sweating and get very fresh.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, I feel like I need to go best Sometimes
at home, if I pee, I don't really see see.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I think there's more people like us than you want
to admit.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Since home, in the public, I I take a whore
bat if I need Wait, what were you about to say?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I wasn't gonna say anything.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You were about to say Something're about to confess something?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
No, it wasn't. I was gonna say. Since we're all
here and you guys confess that I will say. Sometimes
Kingston does not watch his pause either. He just locks his.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Bit shut up either to youruth be told.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
So all right, this is our last secret before we
get to Jade's secret. Oh this is from tearing female Atlanta.
I don't know any Terrance. I'm from Atlanta, but I
don't know any terrance. A little bit of You don't
have to call me out, like, just let it go. Okay,
So they said, I have a semen allergy. Anytime a
guy comes in my pussy it gets all Oh no,
(31:39):
anytime a guy comes in me, my pussy gets all
puffy and itchy. I just do. I just didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Why are multiple men coming inside of you?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
That part right there. I just deal with it though
I like sex too much, oh she said, And before
you ask, yes, I use condoms if the guy I'm
with hasn't been tested. Wait, okay, wait, there's a lot
of ladies.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
So a semen allergy is basically what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
But also she goes so she makes them take a
test and if they're good, she just no condom.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, she's good to go and make and just come inside.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
She's got to be on. She's got to be on
the pill, right, because that's just.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I would assume.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
So that's living on the edge, living living on the edge.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I was thinking of the edge of glory.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Oh, I was like, I was living on the ed.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, well you can sing too.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
She's muty talented b theater. I think she looked for
national commercials and series.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Sorry, I really just want to be able to have
somebody come inside of me. I mean, like all, I mean,
like that's crazy. How old are you? You should be
careful because what if you're like throat certains closed. The
guy's coming inside of you and she's.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Like, yeah, all that part too.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, if it's a real allergy, it could really like
actually mess you up their medications.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You know, maybe she should talk to her doctor. I
don't know it.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Also, are we sure no judgment terary, This is this
legitimate question, she says, it gets puffy and itchy. Yeah,
have you gone to your doctor to make sure it's
actually not? Sometimes? Uti do not actually anything else going on?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Are you sure?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I've never my vagina's ever gotten puffy itchy all the time,
but like never really puffy, like, so maybe you have
an allergy to LATEX.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Oh wait, wait, I'm that's a.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
More common allergy than demon.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I'm googling semen allergy. Currently, semen allergy isn't a direct
cause of infertility. What sometimes symptoms of Wow? Why do
I read symptoms? And sometimes symptoms of semen allergy include
a change in the skin color, burning, and swelling where
semen contacts the skin or vaginal tissue.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Oh my god, my face would be so fucked up.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So it doesn't say anything about nasty. I didn't say
anything about puffy or itchy. So I just want to
make sure that we I would go to a doctor too.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, they said, they said swollen, swollen.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
And here's the thing I and I commend her for
saying that, you know that if I'm with somebody I
don't know, they haven't been tested. That we use protection
and obviously we can done that it's safe. It's a
smart thing to do. I do appreciate your honesty though,
that you're like, sometimes I like it raw, and sometimes
I like the semen because truth be told, it's a
turn on for people, like like, there's something different about
(34:26):
like skin on skin contact. There's something about like not
pulling out and and obviously we not used a condom
in one hundred years. But we've been together for a
hundred years.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Wow, way to share our personal information. Age.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I could go to the secret shocker. We've been waiting
for marriage for ten years, but no, I think that. Yeah,
definitely talk to your doctor and find out if, if,
if it actually won. First and foremost is the semen,
if you haven't actually gotten that checked out yet, And
if there's something else. Maybe there's a medication, or there's
something natural you could be doing to sort of mitigate
some of that, or you could adjust your sexual practice.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Or it could be another allergy. There could be like
a fabric allergy that's triggering at It could be the lube.
It could be like live on somebody mouth doesn't happen
every time.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, is he wearing like some sort of jockstrap that's
made of a fabric that's cheap. Maybe there's so many questions.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I mean, I feel I feel like, after you know
these secrets, we should maybe consider going into like some
profession where we do like sexual doctor stuff, because we
did like, let's let's do it. We diagnosed and we
we're experts.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
If you're looking for somebody to invest in us, all
we need to say is hey, we're looking into doing
some sort of sexual doctor stuff. What do you got?
That's a really great pitch. Yeah, that was really good.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Though. I think we're going to take a quick break
and then we're going to come back with Jade's secret.
And our producer Frank did point out that that last
secret it was a nut allergy.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Oh, a nutout. Definitely not loving it. Hey, it's funny
to be funny when you have a meeting on the pod, right,
you set us up, You see us up nicely. Could
(36:13):
you just join us every single week from here on out? Yes,
Oh so fun Jade. You've been fantastic. We're having a
blast with you. But this is the moment we've all
been waiting for. Are you sweating? Because this is when
our guests start to get sweating homs.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
No, I have. I do comedy for a living. It's true,
fair enough, all right, but the come one was it's like.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
This episode might be comedy.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
That was terrible. Okay, go ahead, this hopefully will be better.
It's time for you to confess your mess.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
All this song and then I just show you guys,
I wish I wish that was my secret now, Okay,
So this is not a big thing, but I am obsessed.
I have a problem with watching pimple popping videos, Like
I just I cannot get enough. Like I'll go down
rabbit holes and I just watch, like I'm talking about
(37:11):
like an hour or well of like doctor pimple Popper
can't make episodes fast enough.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
There's one on YouTube called K's Treatment blackhead Treatment. This
kid says black heads all over his face and it's
just like I'm just scraping, and it's like and it's
just so satisfy.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yes to me, I relate.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
So we're turning my fiance on Lily me too.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's like not sexual, but it is satisfying and just.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Like, oh, like the reason why you get stuck into
is those videos where it's like one where you have
someone on the surface and then she has to kind
of like dig in there and it's like it's like
fifteen minutes in and you cannot stop watching the video
until you see it empty.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Oh, it needs to come out, it needs to come out.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I'm glued to my phone or my computer and watch
I'm like, oh my god, ooh oh that's nasty, but ooh.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I know it is gross, and I also like seeing
the whole after, like seeing like where it came out of.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Like do you remember, for speaking, the doctor pimple Popper.
It was a I think he died. It was an
older gentleman, but he had like all these things in
his space, and she used to work with him all
the time, like it was like super super bad.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I can't remember his name, I can't, but.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
He used to be in her videos years ago all
the time. I'm pretty sure he passed away. But it
is one of the most satisfying things in the world
to what is that?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
How come some people love it so like much and
then other people fucking hate it? Like Okay, it's such
a bizarre.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I'll I'll be real. I love it, and I'm also
getting nauseous right now thinking about it, so I have
a limit. So Emil and my little sister have this
in common. They love these videos and years ago, yeah,
they used to send them to me all the time,
and I watch them and I can't stop watching them.
Even as I'm getting nauseous, I still have to continue
watching because I need to get to the clean part.
I need to get to the part that's satisfying that
(38:50):
I know that it's like it's healed, it's been washed out,
or it's been wiped off or whatever. I need to
get to that part.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Wait, you might have had it on the nose. That
might be that.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, satisfaction never being clean JAF You're different for me, though,
I enjoy those videos. I don't like the ones where
it's like a lot of liquid coming out me either.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
It needs to be a little more of I almost
like when it's like a blackhead and it's like a
little Yeah. So I don't like the liquid ones, like
ones kind of gross.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Okay, just make it sure you're on the same page, okay.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
J Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
So your new show, Hotties, tell us about it? What
is it? Why should we watch it?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You guys? It's incredible? Okay. So it's, uh, it's a
hybrid dating cooking competition show. We're in the middle of
the desert and we have all these gorgeous people and
they go on two separate dates and they have to
have the best date and the best dish or both.
You know. So they're competing to cook and having this
blind first state. But along the way we feed them
like super spicy stuff, so like they have these challenges.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Super High is so absurd nowadays, and I love everything
about it.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'm like, why would anybody sign up for this? Thank
you for signing up. And I'm watching it all in
a trailer, just making fun of it and kind of judging,
and then I judge the best one, and whoever has
the best date dish or both gets another twenty five
hundred dollars date. So pretty big good. It was really
It's fun to see what happens to people under those circumstances.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
And this is on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
It's on Hulu. Yeah, and a couple of romances came
out of it. I'm really excited. Yeah, there's nothing like
it on TV. And I love food too, so it
was just kind of a perfect thing for me to
kind of get to judge. The food tastes like shit,
but it was fun to judge it and make fun
of them. Well.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I feel like your family hair toage is Brazilian, is
food central to sort of like the family structure in
your home is, because I know food for us is
like how we connect. Is that the same for you?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
I love food, like my boyfriend eats like a twelve
year old pizzas and burgers. I'm like cool. But I
just think I love that feeling of sitting down having
a meal together, like I think food brings people together. Definitely.
It was fun watching these people eat it and throw
it up.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Well, one of the things that a meal got me
this year, learning one of the things you got me
for Christmas this year is a sushi cooking class or
sushi prepping class for two. So fun made sushi somehow.
I've never tried to make it yet. So we're going
to do that at some point.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, we're going to do that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
It's hard to make.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, we're excited.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
We have to pick a date so then I'm going
to probably do the what's what's the term where I
try to get some sneakily like your boyfriend does your
husband to a sleep creep back with a sushi wait Jade.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
So since we're we're on the industry, we were talking
for is we have the same agent and everything. So
I like to ask for for industry friends, especially with
your resume and you navigating this industry for well over
a decade, what keeps you going in those in those
moments because and I think we asked if we're both
posts too, so you know, you get a big opportunity
like the soup. Right then the pandemic happens, and then
(41:45):
it kind of like this is a.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Way thing, this is the thing, this is the thing,
But then what's the thing?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
What keeps you going in those low moments when it
feels like, oh, I thought that was the thing, and
what's the next thing?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
That one was kind of hard for me, I'm not
gonna lie, just because it was like so many people
have gone through so many horrible things during the pandemic
and almost felt a little like it's just a show
like relax. But I've been working towards that my entire life,
so it was a big fall for me. But my
thing that I've been doing now is I'm working with
interns from Emerson College, these young up and coming comics,
(42:17):
and just like seeing their hunger and seeing like how
excited they are, like reminds me of why I love
this thing in the first place, Like why I wanted
to do it because it was I wanted to inspire
other people younger than me because I was an immigrant.
I would watch the TV and be like, I want
to do that. So having that feeling that I can
still do that and bring people into the business is
exciting and I do stand up and I'm hungry. Every
(42:39):
time I do stand up. It makes me hungrier. Like,
if you're feeling down, go see a show like go
remember why you love that? Like that rhythm, that magic
like because yeah it's a grand man.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, you have to know why. It sounds like like
why are you doing it? To begin with?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Ye, and not comparing yourself.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Comparison I to comparison itis is really hard for me
as well, So you know, just not comparing yourself and
knowing that your journey is a different rhythm than other people.
I mean, nobody's the thing.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yeah, I adore you. I think you're fantastic.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Guys are fabulous for all.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Thank you so much for taking the time. I mean,
to take an hour out of your day doing all
the things you're doing is really which is fun.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
But doing stuff like this is what like, we should
love doing this. If you don't, like, what are you
doing this?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
For thousand? We're creating.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
We're content creators, creators.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
So before we let you go, we like to ask
our guests also before they leave, what was your takeaway
of the day. One thing that maybe just stood out
to you about the last hour.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Well, I just keep thinking about the like the girl
with the jizz allergy. Just I guess how lucky I
am that I could really put jis on any part
of my body and fine.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
I also also didn't know people still said jiz right.
I didn't know that was still word. And I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I know.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
I can't believe we didn't come up with it earlier.
I was trying to find other jokes besides nuts.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah, for a decade now, so yeah, I'm good on
that and all that jigs. No, wow, we.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Adore you, Jade. That was so much fun. We'll have
to come see uh one of your shows. Do you
have any upcoming shows in La?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yes, I'm every weekend. I'm at the comedy Store. So
just come do it.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
We'll do it.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah, yeah, yes, let me know you on the list.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Perfect fun.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. We'll see
you soon. Confess Your Mess is a straw Head Media
podcast produced by Ryan Tillotson and Frank Driscoll. Thank you
so much for listening, and don't forget to subscribe and share, And.
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Speaker 2 (44:48):
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