62. Reconnecting to Yourself: Surfing, Aging, and Feminine Intuition

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Leah Donatiello (00:00):
Go without expectations, go thinking you

(00:01):
might not catch any waves, andthen you'll have a great
session. And, like, just becauseyou have a good surf one day
doesn't mean you're gonna have agood surf the next day. And when
you're doing any sort of selfdevelopment or, like, you know,
spiritual work or anything, Ithink it's the same thing. Like,
just because you had one reallygood meditation or you had one
really good day doesn't mean therest are going to be like that.
And that's not to say you'refailing or you're doing anything

(00:23):
wrong. It's just that's how itis. Like life moves like tides,
you know, like it moves likewater and healing, and is not
just linear. And so I thinktaking in this beginner mindset
from surfing and applying it tojust everything else, I just
think makes like, we get thislike happy curiosity and like
excitement, like you said, likeI'm excited to age. I'm excited

(00:44):
for this. I'm looking forward tothe process, right?

Laura Day (00:49):
Hey lady, welcome to Confessions of a surf lady, a
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journey. Alright? Lady, thanksagain for joining me here at
Confessions of a surf lady,where we're cultivating a global
women's surf culture throughthoughtful conversation. Let's
get to our episode. Yeah.

Unknown (02:34):
Hi, Leah, hi.

Laura Day (02:36):
Thank you for coming back and joining us on
Confessions of a surf lady, it'sbeen a while. Thanks for having
me. Since you were last on theshow, you were sharing with us
about nutrition, and you had,like, a nutrition program that
you were working with for womenwho served, but you've evolved
since then, which I love, Ilove, I love it, you know,
because we've known each otherfor a couple years now, and,

(02:57):
like, it's cool to see eachother evolve. And you've evolved
since then into kind of adifferent program, and something
that I feel like I've heard yousay, feels a lot more aligned
with you. So let's start off andtalk about

that. Yeah, so even when I was running the
nutrition program, I remembertalking to you and being like,
but I don't know if this is it,and you're like, well, and you
had all these like, differentideas, and you, you even told
me, you said, what if your wholebrand was reconnect? And I was
like, no, like, I just wentstraight to like, No, I can't.

(03:30):
But what actually ended uphappening was me just embracing
what I actually like doing andwhat I actually was spending
most of my time with my clients,on which was, yes, I was a
nutritionist. I was helpingpeople, you know, improve their
digestion or their energy, andoften surfers. And we always
connected over that, which wasreally nice, but what we were

(03:52):
really connecting on was theirwhy. And it's like, why do you
want to change your diet? Why doyou want to feel better? Why do
you want to lose weight, or allof those things. And what I
really liked about the nutritionprogram was it gave me a tool to
help empower women. And then Irealized that I wanted to do
more than nutrition, and Iwanted to dive into more

(04:14):
aspects, you know, like, how didyou get these eating patterns,
and why do you feel like you usefood in this way and all this.
And I felt like, oh, that's justnot all people that's outside my
scope of practice, or, I don'tknow, a lot of like, just stuff,
I think I made up, you know,like, just, oh, that's not for
me or but I always felt thispull for more this. And then I

(04:35):
just stepped into it prettyorganically by working with
clients who were like, oh, youknow, nutrition is part of what
I want to work on, but it's alsothese habits and and then it
just evolved into what it isnow. And I just called it
reconnect, because that's what Icalled my retreats. And it just
were, it just fits. And I'mlike, why would I have called it
anything else? So

Laura Day (04:57):
it's so great. So would you consider yourself
before you would have been. Likea nutritionist, but more now
it's like life coaching, likehelping women, like, reconnect.
What it is that,

yeah, so I call myself an empowerment mentor,
which even that I was likeempowerment to me, sounds like
somebody screaming, like, Yougo, girl and just like,
encouraging, like hype person,which like, Yes, I am, I guess,
but not really, like, I'm notthat. Like, that's not really my
style, but empowerment in thesense of, like, it sounds maybe

(05:29):
a little corny, but like helpingwomen or people step into their
fullness, their power. Like,what else is there? What more is
there? Why they're, like, reallyembodying their why, and, yeah,
like it's life coaching is also,I guess, what you could call it.
And it always ends up turninginto something more like

(05:51):
spiritual coaching, or you can'treally get into these topics
without addressing, like, thedeeper essence of who you are,
and then that we end up in inthe realm of spirituality, and I
think, like, how can you notwhen you're working at that
level of like, who you are, youressence, your core. I am an
empowerment mentor. I guessthat's amazing.

Laura Day (06:12):
Who are typically the people that you work with? What
do they like come to you for?
What are they looking for? Justso if anyone's listening and
they can identify with it.
They'll know you're someone youcan they can reach out to, yeah,
yeah,

yeah. So I would say sometimes it happens
people want an accountabilitybuddy, basically, like, they
want someone to help them stayaccountable to their habits and
give them a little bit ofguidance. And then again, it
turns into like, Well, why doyou want this? And why did you
not do it, and what's holdingyou back? So it's really like

(06:47):
working through the all of thebarriers that people are coming
up against with their ownpersonal goals. That could be
one like entry point. Anotherentry point could be someone who
is just ready for more like,they want more connection. They
want to feel more likethemselves. They want to live a
life that feels like their own,or that feels like feels like

(07:07):
them. And I think that we overtime, you know you could be a
people pleaser. You could besomeone who really lives, has
lived to serve others, as acaretaker, as a mother, as just
somebody who wants to like, keepthe peace. You could be somebody
who has followed like, society'schecklist of, like, find a

(07:27):
relationship, get married, get ajob, have kids, or whatever,
like, the order is, but it endsup not being your own. You could
be someone who's gone through alot and has basically just,
like, numbed out in order tosurvive, and now you're like,
Whoa. This is my like, that wasme. That was how I found a lot
of these practices. Was coming,like, back online, finding
myself again, really like, itsounds like, oh, people just say

(07:50):
that, but it's true. Like overtime, through methods of just
like getting through hardship ortrauma or whatever life has
thrown at you, we have thesecoping mechanisms, and then one
day we wake up and we don't feellike ourselves and like life
doesn't feel that good or bad.
You know, it's like, you're kindof just flat lined, and you're
like, why don't I really feelanything about anything? And
then you have to, like, slowlydig up those pieces. So I had a

(08:13):
client tell me, I don't reallythink I'm a spiritual person,
and she just didn't feel it. Andso just introducing, like, what
that is, it could be, this couldbe like, somebody's kind of
initiation into reconnectingwith themselves, into
reconnecting with, you know,like a lot of people, also, I
think, steer away from religion,and they don't want this, like,

(08:33):
book they have to read and rulesthey have to follow, but they
want to understand and like,just feel this connection to to
the world around them, tonature, to to each other. So I
hope that answers your question.
Like, really could be so manythings. There's not a big
criteria. It's just you have tojust want it really, like you
have to just want somethingmore,

Laura Day (08:55):
something deeper.
What are the ways that you workwith people?

So I do private coaching, so virtual coaching
through zoom and I do over a fewmonths. Usually, I don't usually
do just like, a one timesession. I mean, it's possible,
but really like, and you have tocome more than once like, so
usually I work with over I coulddo like I've done two months and
longer. I think three is like,kind of a minimum. And also

(09:21):
through my retreats. And throughmy retreats, actually, how I got
the confidence to really be likethis is what I want to do,
because I started hostingretreats here in lovitos Peru.
And part of this, I mean, as I'msure we'll get into, like,
surfing was a huge part of thisinitiation for me. So I started
talking about that in myretreats, doing reflection

(09:43):
sessions, teaching yoga throughkind of that whole thing. And I
was like, wow, this is justfeels really right. And that was
after that, I think was when meand you talked, and I was like,
yeah, there's something here.
And yeah, it feels very muchmore aligned. And it's actually
very funny that you. The wordaligned, because I use that word
a lot in my program, and it'slike, find living in alignment.
And it's like living inalignment with yourself, with

(10:05):
your core values, and in findingthat, you know, you find
yourself, yeah, private coachingas of right now and retreats.
How

Laura Day (10:14):
would you say that living in alignment like
creating that space to find thatalignment and Gino just is in
the interest of we're allsurfers. How would you say like
that? Partly it changes the waythat you surf and changes your
relationship with surfing. Haveyou seen that change like in any
of your clients or in yourself?
For me, surfing

was like, what opened this reconnect space? How
it changed is that over time, Irealized that surfing is not
just like something you go anddo and then you just that's just
it, and you just do it, and thenit's like, now I know I'm a
surfer, and I can just go backto it whenever I want. Over the
years, surfing has has helped megain access to my subconscious.

(11:02):
And those themes that I startedwith, like 10 years ago, almost
now, are things that I am nowstill going deeper into and
through other not just throughsurfing, but surfing will pull
them out, and then I have workedwith them over the years, and
then they come back around, likeone recently just came up, and I
was like, Oh, wow. This is stilla thing for me, because it shows

(11:22):
up in other areas of my life.
And another way that it'schanged my relationship with
surfing is making me as I getmore connected, I realize the
relationship piece and aspectwith the ocean and how nature is
not just like nature is overthere and I am over here and
this is inanimate, and I am not.
It's like, oh, like, I am partof this. And the best surfs I've

(11:46):
had are the ones where I feelcomfortable and in relationship
with the ocean, and there'slike, this give and take, and
it's not just like a fight. Soit's a whole new way of
experiencing surfing, I think,and being able to talk about it,
because before I knew that therewas something kind of different
and special about it, but I'mlike, oh, surely everyone knows

(12:06):
this, like everyone's feelingthis, and maybe not. It's

Laura Day (12:09):
interesting. You and I, we always, like, identify
with we get along really well.
We have, like, very similarvalues and stuff. But that
experience over time, therelationship with surfing. It
continues to develop and openand open it like, I always think
of it as like a piece of origamithat's been folded 1000 times,
and you're unfolding it, andit's, or not even, 1000 times,
infinite amount of time you'reunfolding it, and it's never

(12:32):
going to end, like you're tryingto get to the bottom of this
paper, and it's never going tohappen. But that's something
that's so fun and special aboutit. There's so much to it. And
even in, you know, I've beensurfing for like, 12 years and
and the last couple years,owning the surf society, that's,
like, really opened my world toall these other aspects of
surfing, taking, kind of thattool of self learning and

(12:55):
thinking I'm on the wave, like,what does my body feel like?
Visualization was a tool.
Obviously we use a lot in surfsociety too, and kind of using
that back and forth has, like,blown up my relationship with
surfing completely. It's sodifferent now than, of course,
there's like, maneuvers I wantto learn, of course, there's

(13:15):
things I want to do, but it'snot that, like, again, like you
said, I know a lot of peoplewould say like, oh, it's the
connection with the ocean. Wesay that. But do we feel that
like when we're there on theboard? And that's something
lately I've through watching alot of surf films that I'm like,
Man, these people, there's somuch soul in so many of the

(13:36):
really great surf films I see.
There's so much soul and themovement of the surfer against
the water, and that energyexchange is like, so pleasant to
watch, right? Because now uswatching someone surf so
amazingly, gives us an idea ofwhat the ocean is doing because
of the way they're moving. AndI've, I've been really inspired
by like, How can I enter thewater? Have my goals? Have these

(13:58):
things I want to work on, butreally, just like, feel, feel
the water. And we had is keyBritain, who was on the surf
society months ago, and shetalks about, how many people
actually go into the water andjust, just like, feel the energy
of the water, like, that's it.
That's quite in all simpleforms. That's what we should be

(14:20):
there for but it's different mesaying it now today than maybe
two years ago, right? Maybethat's like, a form of
reconnection and, like, reallydeveloping that bond further.

Yeah, absolutely. It's one thing to,
like, say it and know it, andone thing to embody it yourself.
And it takes time. Like, if itis a relationship that takes
time, and it's just going to getdeeper, hopefully over time. And
it's something that's like, Idon't want to say earned, but
it's like, it's nourished,nourished. Yeah,

Laura Day (14:50):
I think you bring up the essence of time is, like,
really important, and peopleputting in that time and having
that patience, and US removingourselves from this, like you.
Instant gratification situation,maybe even like what society
thinks surfing is and that weneed to portray what that is. I
mean, I know a lot of peoplethat are like, Oh, every time I

(15:11):
see my footage, I just like,hate it. I like, cringe. And I'm
like, Oh, you're judgingyourself so hard, you know,
like, I get it, like, there'sbeautiful footage out there. But
when you have the perspectiveof, like, these people, some of
these people surfed, like,there's whole lives, and they're
at the best point break, and allthe conditions are so perfect
for this beautiful artwork. AndI feel like people are really

(15:31):
hard on themselves with theirsurf progress. Well, I

also think that you it does feel so great. Like,
when you're on it, you're like,wow. And then you look at the
footage, and you get you, you'relike, oh. And it's that
disconnect from what it feelslike to what it looks like. And
then that's where that discriBut if you didn't look at the
footage, and you might have justhad, like, been sat more
satisfied sometimes,

Laura Day (15:52):
right? Like you're just ripping in your mind,
that's or like, but it

just feels so good, like it's just about the
feeling. And then you look at itand it's like, oh yeah, I do
have a weird stance, and I looklike I'm going slow. I totally
had time to kind of do a cutback. And it's like, but did you
enjoy it? Like, were you havingfun? Like, also considering
those things? Yeah.

Laura Day (16:12):
So what inspired this conversation was you and I, I
don't even know we were justlike, chatting, talking

after a surf Society meeting or a
presentation. Yeah, we're

Laura Day (16:23):
talking about beauty perception and aging and how
women have the pressures ofsociety to look a certain way
and act a certain way. And oneof the things that you had
brought up was, had you had donedayta, yeah, and there was a
woman there, right? I'll let youtell it. I think,

like, I'm not

Unknown (16:47):
a coach. I think we were

talking about how we generally like fear
aging, or we are not likelooking forward to aging, or we
don't embrace it. And myperception on this has started
to change, because last year Iworked on two retreats in the
Amazon, and they're calleddietas, because they're it's
like a diet, a new diet, jungleplants, basically, and nature,

(17:12):
you remove a lot from your diet,and the corona, or the shaman
who was she was running theceremonies and prescribing the
diets, Even she's a woman inher, I want to say, late 60s,
and then the facilitator, youknow, she's in her late 30s and
and just like the knowledgekeepers, like looking at these
women as knowledge keepers, asthis thing that only really you

(17:37):
can get from time, like youcan't just wake up like what I'm
doing now I couldn't have donewith the life experience I had
in my early 20s, like I justthere's just something about
time that is actually somethingI think we need to embrace and
respect and integrate, whetherthat's, you know, integrating
people of different ages intoyour life, and not just your

(17:59):
small circle of You know peopleyour your age or your friend
group or whatever, and lookingto these women as you know, like
they would in indigenouscultures, right? Like, not just
disregarding someone as old andfor lack of a better word, like
useless or like old in theirlife is finished. Like, no,
like, let's take them and theirknowledge and integrate it back.

(18:23):
And it's like that becomes thisregenerative society. And, you
know, maybe we don't take all ofit. Maybe there are some things
like, just because we're allhuman right, and we don't need
every single piece of everysingle person's life integrated
into our own. But I'm sure thereare aspects of it and so, and
then I think we were talkingabout how this can be applied.
And, no,

Laura Day (18:42):
that's it. I mean, we were talking about the fear of
aging and the in like, theperception of aging, and like,
because I'm 37 Are you the sametoo?

I'm 34

Laura Day (18:52):
Oh, you're 34 so you're not so, yeah, but we're
in our 30s, right? And I thinkthere's a lot of pressure to
like, I know I'm seeing it like,I was looking at pictures of me
10 years ago on Facebook. I waslike, flipping through stuff. I
was like, Wow. It was so young.
I was so young and and justlike, so young and fit and happy
and all of that. And, and I lookback, and people say this all

(19:15):
the time too, like, you're gonnaalways look back and be like,
Wow, I was, like, so happy andcarefree and beautiful in that
moment. And in that momentyou're just like, not
appreciating all of that, right?
And now that I'm in my late 30s,really, I'm like, in my head,
I'm like, whatever. I'm like, inmy early 40s, it's, it's like,

(19:38):
yeah, I don't even, you know,I'm kind of at a point where I'm
like, I don't even want to, Idon't want to ignore it, like,
it's like, right here. How can II'm not gonna like, I don't
know. It's not going anywhere.
Like, I'm definitely, you might,I'm definitely aging, and the
way that my life has gone kindof in the last couple years is
probably not what I thought, youknow, like, I thought I'd be

(19:58):
married. Have kids, which Idon't Yeah, I've been embracing
that a lot. And one of thethings I wanted to share with
you, I was talking to some ofthe other girls in surf society,
and one of Danielle, she sharedthis with me. We were talking
about aging and everything, andwe were talking about menopause
and perimenopause and stuff likethat. She started with saying
that whales and dolphins andlike chimps and gorillas, they

(20:21):
go through menopause. And I waslike, wow, really? And she said,
Yeah, because the assumption,evolutionarily wise, is that the
most dangerous thing you coulddo is give childbirth, is go
through childbirth as a woman.
That's the most dangerous thingyou can do. But these grandma

(20:41):
figures are so valuable thatevolution wise people and
animals that have very likesocial, societal kind of
cultures in them, we stop havingthe ability to have children
because your role, you don'twant to lose the value and the
wisdom in these older women.
Yeah. And I was like, oh mygoodness, yeah. Changes

(21:02):
Everything, right? Completely.
Like, perspective shift of goingthrough like, oh, wow, you're no
longer fertile to no you holdthat's all this wisdom and yeah,
and you're meant to be keptaround, and that is why you're
no longer able to have childrenbecause it's too risky. And I

(21:25):
thought that was a reallybeautiful thing, and it even
made you more, really, like,appreciate your journey to
getting to that space. And Ilove them when we talked about
this, because I think there'sand even with surfing, people
are like, Oh, I'm starting solate, or I'm, you know, so much
older than everyone and, yeah,we've also learned to judge

(21:45):
ourselves just regular as youwere, and not give ourselves
credit. Of like, oh, I have somuch more wisdom now. You know,
10 years later, i i And maybeI'm reconnected. I operate from
a different place than I did 10years ago, and there's something
really beautiful and undercelebrated about that. So you
know

how I'm in this mentorship, this intuitive? I'm
so I'm in a mentorship beingmentored by, just for context,
yeah, by a medical intuitive oran intuitive counselor. The way
he works is he does readings forpeople to help them figure out
what they need to work on, orwhat thing to resolve. It's like
stuck things, so I'm beingmentored on one how to connect

(22:27):
my own intuition more deeply.
And on the last call, he had usdo this exercise where we were,
we were meditating, and it wason our future self, and he
wanted us to basically, like,embody our future self, and he's
asking us questions. And Irealized, and have realized
recently, that I haven't reallylet myself embody my future or

(22:49):
like, even like. I don't reallyview my life long term. I don't
really look or haven't reallylooked to the future. I haven't
thought about myself when I'm 60or 70, like, it's just not
something I do. And I think partof the reason is my mom was
diagnosed with early onsetAlzheimer's, and she died at 64
and there's a part of me that islike, that is going to be you,

(23:12):
you're not going to get to beold. And that's not like, really
a helpful thought to have,because who wants to think like
that? But during thismeditation, this, oh, it's crazy
that I'm going to share thishere, because I didn't even want
to share it in my group. So I'mlike, This is too like, Who do
you think you are? But my futureself was this, like medicine
woman, this, like wisdom keeper.

(23:38):
And I've had this before,because I've had this thought
before, of like, being promptedin sessions just recently.
Though this is something Ihaven't even let myself want.
And it's like, what do youactually desire? Like, what do
you want to be? And this vision,this idea of like, I want to be
this person. Like, I want to bethis person, for myself, but for
other people. And so we in thismeditation, this version of my

(23:59):
first this version of myselfcame up, was like this surfer,
and she's just like ripping andchilling, and it's like, but
that's part of it too. It's justlike being free, feeling
relaxed, like, that's the likefeeling of it. And another level
on that of that embodiment isthat person, but that person,
older, like that person actuallygoing through life, being like,

(24:20):
full of life and experiences andin connection with plants and
with nature, and able to connectto this source energy to help
other people bring that out ofthemselves. Because, like I said
earlier, like we are, we can getreally blocked. Like, I have
been very, very blocked, and thefact that I'm starting to be
able to do this for myself andfor others, is like, and just

(24:43):
very much starting like, don'tget me wrong, it's not like.
It's still something I'm really,really working at, and it's not
to be taken lightly either. Ifeel like very privileged that I
get to do this, but the fact nowthat I'm even able to share like
with whoever is going to listento this, that this is how I can
see myself. Yeah, and it's justwild. So he asked us in the

(25:04):
meditation, like, what does thisperson want to say to you, or
what are they what message dothey have for you? And the
message I received was, juststart now, and it's like, you
don't have to begin then. And Ishared that he's like, that
future you is you now, like youare essentially talking to
yourself. And so that's true,like, that's already true,
because it's your future self.
So isn't that just, like, mindblowing? And so that idea of,

(25:27):
like, just you just reallybrought me there. It was of
this, like, we get to transcendinto these, evolve, transcend,
yeah, into these. Like,knowledge keepers and like that
role really shifting something Ireally look forward to. And
maybe that's something that sayssomething about, like, where I
am now, and like, why I feel soconfident or comfortable. So

(25:52):
like, what? Much more at peace,much more. Like, okay, like,
settled and but settled in agood way. Thank you for sharing
your animal screen. Yeah,absolutely.

Unknown (26:04):
Thank you, Danielle.

Laura Day (26:06):
But it really is, like an amazing thing, and you,
you're saying this conversationyou've had with your future
self. So I've talked to youabout it. I've been doing these,
like, Neo emotional releasetherapy sessions, and it's
really probably similar to,like, meditative, right? And you
have, if you're really open toit, like visions and feelings

(26:28):
and words and things that cometo you that are, like, really in
there. And it's reallyincredible how connected we are
to how much we can be connectedto ourselves, how much, like our
intuition can tell us stuff.
Like, you're not, like, outrightthinking about it, but our
intuition can really speak tous. And then I've had
experiences where I felt I wasin scenarios that were past

(26:50):
memories, that were not my pastmemories, you know, and that was
like, so profound, like, what isgoing on? This is, like, the
things I'm seeing and hearingthat I've never experienced
this. This doesn't this feelslike very unfamiliar territory.
And the therapist, she's like,this is the ancestral memories,
ancestral trauma. I'm like, Wow.
I had no idea that, you know,you hear about people talk about

(27:13):
that. I had no idea I couldaccess that. Yeah, yeah. And it,
yeah, really blows your mind on,like what our existence really
is and and what we're capableof, yeah. And we talk about the
passing of time, which is whatbrought our conversation today
with that idea of aging. Butthen there's this overlap of
time where your future self istalking to your present self. My

(27:35):
past ancestors are talking to mypresent self. He gave me chills,
yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I haveanother friend too that also
does these sessions. And, youknow, it brings up, like,
quantum physics. And there's noidea of actual a straight
timeline, except that is howwe're experiencing it right now.
And it's, it's really openinglike, it's just really like,

(27:57):
wow, there's more around me thanI thought. There's more around
me than this, like, materialworld that we've done in world,
yeah, yeah. And I think whatyou're talking about that, like,
that settled Ness in where weare and who we are, like in this
world, I think it comes fromrealizing there's just more
than, like, these balls in thiscomputer, like, we're more than

(28:18):
that, beyond that. Like, yeah,yes. It's It's pretty
incredible. I mean, that bringsus to like, I feel like I'm
reaching a very similar thoughtprocess as you have, like, I'm
excited to age. I'm excited togather more experiences, when
lately I've been watching acouple surf films, and I'm like,
you know, I started surfing inmy mid 20s, and maybe one day I

(28:39):
could surf just as good as someof these people. It might take
me 20 more years, but howfucking cool would that still
be, right? If I'm 57 and surfingas you know, as good as I can,
and I look, I do look forward tothat. I'm like, okay with that
now, yeah, I would say it's,it's been different in the past.
Like, you know, I broke up withmy ex during COVID. I was 33 I

(29:03):
had gone into that relationshipthinking that, like, I would
have kids and probably getmarried, and then you break up
and you're 33 it's the middle ofa pandemic, and I'm like, I
don't see myself as much datinganymore anytime soon. You know
what I mean? Yeah? Like, I'mlike, you do the math, and
you're like, well, like, like,okay, yeah, things aren't really
mapping out. But once I startedthinking about, I don't know,

(29:27):
there just was a shift where theaging portion of it just like
biological clock running out,like, just stopped bothering me.
And I feel a lot better aboutjust like living day to day and
being, like, being almost 40,like, whatever I call it,

Unknown (29:46):
yeah, I just like,

Laura Day (29:47):
I don't know, you know, people used to just be
like, Oh, my God, the Big Four,oh, or even 30. I'm remember on
my 29th No, my 30th birthday,like, the that day I cried
because I turned 30,

Unknown (29:58):
yeah. I'm like, this.
Oh, that was so dumb, you know,

I mean, like, that's part of it. Like I have
said in yoga classes and onthis, these retreats, you know,
when you're going throughsomething hard, it's like, the
process is the point. Like,yeah, yeah. And so when you're
crying because you're aging, oryou're, you know, like learning
to surf, or you're, you know,like, these next 20 years of
surfing for you, like, it's notgonna it's not about where

(30:25):
you're going to be. It's aboutgoing through that process.
Because I was thinking aboutthis the other day, like, nobody
wants to learn from somebody whojust read a book and is
repeating, you know, the quotesand the and the psychology to
you like, you want to learn fromsomeone who's been through it,
who, like, had this down and hadto, like, climb their way back
up and had to, you're not goingto relate to somebody who's just

(30:50):
woke up one day and was good atsurfing and had everything you
ever wanted, like, handed tothem, like, you're like, I don't
even though you want the samethings. How you get there is so
important, and I think that'salso why it's important, you
know, who we learn surfing from,and who we learn, who we
progress with, who we learnlike. Because I'm I had this
imposter syndrome, you know,doing these retreats, being

(31:12):
like, I didn't start surfingyoung. I find surfing hard. I
find it like. It tests all thesedifferent things about me. And
I'm like, Well, it probably doesthat for everybody else, too.
And a lot of people can't talkabout it, because the
instructors are people who'vedone it since they were 14.
Yeah. And so to have that other,like facilitator, that other
person there, I think, is, like,one thing that is different, but

(31:32):
also gave me this, like, oh, isthis right? Is this necessary?
But I think it really is. Ididn't have somebody like that.
I

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(33:50):
Is like this obsession withtrying to look young and like I
noticed here, yeah, like, youknow, I live in California, and
what before would have beenlike, you know, fake lips and
Botox. Like, let's say, 10 yearsago, that was like, Orange
County rich women, or just thesesmall group of people that had

(34:13):
access to this thing. And it waskind of like, okay, that's what
they do, or celebrities orwhatever. But I feel like a lot
of these, like alterations arecoming, becoming a lot more
mainstream, like a lot morelike, lip injections you'll see
on just regular people, a lot ofpeople in their 20s, even, like
I've seen on Instagram, gettingBotox. Yeah, it's really crazy.

(34:36):
And even, you know, I've talkedto some of my friends and
they're like, oh, yeah, I don'tknow. I don't know, I'd consider
it, and it's a weird shift. It'slike, a really weird shift. And
I don't, I don't know if that'slike, necessarily good

Unknown (34:54):
anyone. Is it good for

you? Like, that's all you can really
control. Is like, that? Doesthis feel good for me? For me
personally? I mean, I don'tknow. I live in a very small
town where there's I don't have.
I mean, the the most comparisonI get is being on Instagram
really, like, I'm, yeah, it'skind of like this world of its
own. But in general, like, Idon't mind looking, like I surf
and like I spend time in thesun, like my hair is, like,

(35:18):
different lengths and differentcolors, and that's because I
spend a lot of time outside inthe ocean, and that's like a
privilege to me, like, that'swhat I want to be doing. And so
to be, like, forcing myself tocut my hair often and look like
I don't do that is like, I don'tknow, or like, I often have,
like, the neck tan line orwhatever. And I'm like, people

(35:40):
tell me, like, why aren't youmore tanned? I'm like, because I
surf in a wetsuit, like I'm notthere to, like, land the beach,
like I have other shit to do.
Like, for me, I don't mindlooking like the person that I
am. And I mean, maybe that willchange. I don't, I don't know.
But, and then also, maybe itjust goes to like, one step

(36:02):
deeper, asking, you know, thatquestion of, why, like, why do
you feel like you need this? Whydo we as a society feel like we
need this without blaming andinstead finding it like within
ourselves the reasons anddeconstructing them? Hopefully,
that's what I would hope. But

Laura Day (36:18):
right? Because it's not actually getting to the root
of, like, whatever it is youfeel like you're fixing and, I
mean, like,

if is it self confidence? Like, because, if
it's like, you want to feel moreconfident, it's like, but then
you only feel confident if youlook a certain way, and then
that's not real confidence.
Like, that's not real selfesteem. A lot of actually, what
I do is self esteem more, likefiguring out that self worth and
even comes through throughsurfing, is like, do you feel
like you're allowed to be there?

(36:47):
Like, do you feel like you areentitled to be there, to paddle
for certain ways, to to sit atthe point to so that's how a lot
of this, like inherent selfworth stuff, did come up for me,
was through surfing and thenstill working through it outside
of the water. But

Laura Day (37:03):
yeah, serving is absolutely like a good mirror.
Yes, yes, what's going on andwhen you've done it enough. So
for anyone that's listening,that's like newer and is going
through those growing pains,like, look at those growing
pains as earning, really earninglike, your experience, like you
talked about. And if you do itenough, and you stick around

(37:24):
enough, and you're observantenough and put your self into
like, the culture, and love itfor what it is, not just because
of what photos you can take andput on Instagram, but like,
really love it for what it is.
Like you will get to a placewhere you do start feeling a
little bit more comfortablewith, yeah, with picking up your
space in line. It's like

learning to drive. Yeah, that's a good deal.
I remember learning to drive andbeing like, I'm so
uncomfortable, and I'm so awareof every little thing. And I
remember like, watching my momdrive and be like, Why does it
look so like natural? And thenLearning to Surf your same
thing. You're so aware of howeverything feels, how every
like, everything's souncomfortable and weird. And

(38:03):
then you look at other peopleand you're like, why do they
just flow? Like, why does itjust look so easy? And then
eventually you get there, yeah.
And then you just like, it'smore than driving, you know,
it's way more. Maybe it's like,going to become a professional
drivers. There's still moreabout we just stop at a certain
place. And I think that's alsookay as a surfer. Like, if you
stop at a certain place, I'veheard people be like, oh, you

(38:25):
know, surfing is aboutadrenaline and and go always
reaching for more. And it'slike, Is it maybe, right? It can
be like, also, yeah, like,surfing doesn't have to be this
for everybody, but it is for me.
And, you know, like, I had this,just this, like, will to learn
how to surf like, but it feltlike this calling, like it felt

(38:47):
like this thing that I couldn'tjust sit like, I've tried it,
you know, I tried earlier, whenI first moved here, and I just
really struggled. And I left itfor a while, but I always wanted
to go back. And I always just,like, felt that yearning and
that calling. And I think wereally need to pay attention to
those things, because if Ihadn't gone back, I would not
have or be any of this. Maybe Iwould have found it in another

(39:09):
way. But I'm really happy that Ihave it in this way. And so,
yeah, it's like, what is thatcalling? Is that what do you
call that? Is that spirit? Isthat God? Is that intuition? Are
those things all the same thing.
Like, I think, yes. And so whenwe we think we're not connected,
but we are. And how many timeshave we listened to something
and just, or not listened but orfelt things, you know? And

(39:32):
right? We just write it off, orwe just think it's like, oh,
that's just my intuition. I hadthat gut. It's like, that gut
feeling is like Source Energytalking to you, okay, like,
listen to it.

Laura Day (39:44):
Yeah, there is so much intuition that we have that
I would argue to say thatsociety and corporations and
everybody that profits off womenbeing insecure don't want us to
be connected, course not, andbecause they profit. Stop it too
much. But it's a beautifulthing, I think, to reconnect and

(40:04):
spend that time. And it's reallyempowering. I would say it can
be very uncomfortable too,especially in a society that, Oh
yeah, right there. Yet I findthat difficult for me when I'm
pushing myself and like goingback and questioning, like,
Should I do this? Should I saythat? Should I stand up for
that? And then I'll have a sideof me that's like, I can't not

Unknown (40:24):
say anything, you know, like him, you just Yeah,

no, my mentor, he says, like, because half the
time during these calls, like,we do some private ones, and we
do some group ones, and half thetime I'm so uncomfortable and
and I'm so resistant, I'mgetting better. But he has said
from the very beginning, he'slike, your intuition isn't here
to make you feel comfortable.
Your intuition is here to tellyou the truth. And the truth is
not, oh, he's comfortable. Andwe have free will, we have, and

(40:50):
that's so that's the problem,really, is that we can override
it, and it will sit there and itwill be like, Oh, maybe you're
not ready yet, okay, but it'sthere, and that's on us too, or
when we when we decide to takeaction on it, but we know things
like, No, and it's like this,you know, he always says, like,

(41:12):
you don't know how you know, butyou know. And the thing is, is
like, we all have access tothis, and we can all work on it
and unlock it, or reconnect tohowever you want to word it, you
know, like it's there forabsolutely everybody. And modern
society wants us to be numb. AndI think also, that's why surfing
also is a bit of this can beseen as this, like fringe thing.

(41:36):
You get into surfing, and yousee people just like living for
swells and waves and chasing,you know, it's like that
stereotype of, you know, or thattraveler who's just always, you
know, going, where are thewaves? Or because that
connection is so strong, I don'tthink it's just, it's not always
just this adrenaline addiction,you know, you can go mountain
biking and skateboarding and doall of these other things. I

(41:58):
think it's like thisrelationship with the ocean, and
it calls you and it draws youback in and and I think that we
are so lucky that we have this.
We're

Laura Day (42:09):
so lucky. And, I mean, I would say, Yeah, I would
say, like, what? We wouldn'tknow each other if we didn't
have this. And along with a, youknow, a lot of other women that
I call really good friends,because we connect so well over
how much we love surfing, andwe're able to support each other
in that way. And it's like, sucha beautiful thing. And I think
the way you've married yourpassion for surfing with your

(42:30):
passion for helping womenreconnect to themselves has been
like, really, it's great, beengreat to watch that evolution,
because you and I have talked,yeah, like we, we, you know,
it's been years. We've goingback and forth about ideas and
where we're at with everything.
So I think it's cool to watchboth of us evolve into a place
that feels like, I would say,both of us seem a lot more
settled than what we're doingand who we are. It's really cool

(42:51):
to have that company. Absolutelytell us about your trips,
because I know you have a fewcoming up. Yeah,

oh, I just wanted to comment on the Oh
yeah, on the word you used like,and I used it too settled is,
like, this supposed to be this,like, bad thing, right? Like,
oh, he's settled. But it'sactually like, when do you feel
unsettled is when you shouldseek mentoring or coaching?
Like, that's a like, how youasked earlier, like, who would
like look for? This is, like, ifyou feel unsettled in your life,

(43:19):
it's because you may havesettled for something that's not
yours. And yeah, so these tripsthat I do now reconnect
retreats. I used to just callthem surfing yoga retreats. It's
not just a surf and yogaretreat. And the thing about
yoga like surfing, is likeanother form of yoga, you know,
I mean, like they're bothspiritual practices, their

(43:41):
disciplines, their their methodsof connection, and that's why
they go together. They don't gotogether because yoga makes you
flexible for surfing, right? Andthat I've had, like, such a hard
time trying to put words on thatlove that

Laura Day (43:54):
you said, that I love it. So I started doing, I mean,
I've always done yoga, like,here and there, but this year I
started doing i and gar yogawith a studio that it's actually
owned by surfers. And actually,to tie back to what we've talked
about, a lot of the people intheir studio are the women are
in their 60s, 50s, 60s, 70s. Soit's been a really beautiful

(44:16):
experience to go in there andlike, you know, talk about,
like, oh gosh, I've beenstruggling with sleeping, you
know, just little these things,yeah, have them be like, Oh,
yeah. That happens sometimes.
And I'm like, yeah. But like,you know,

what's so interesting? I just got chills.
Yeah. I just want to share onething. So in this last session,
this last mentoring session, hewas speaking about, like,
grandmother energy. And whenyou, like, say something to a
grandmother, like, if a greatthe granddaughter goes like, Oh,
I got my heart broken, or hisheart broken, the grandmother
just goes, Yeah, that happenslike, oh, and isn't that? Like,

(44:48):
they just understand. They justknow. And like, what you just
said is, like, exactly that,like, that just like, yeah,
that's part of life. Like, it'snot like, let's fix it. Let's
take this five step UltimateGuide to sleep. Deep and hack
and vitamins, and it's like, no,like, so continue. No,

Unknown (45:08):
exactly.

Laura Day (45:08):
That's exactly my feeling like, Yes, I'm trying to

Unknown (45:11):
do the five step thing, and it's not working. But, you
know, but me going in there andthen being like

Laura Day (45:18):
that. That happens.
All of them said that to me,yeah. And the the owner Kim, she
know she was like, Yeah, youknow that she was telling me
that she's like, I've never beena good sleeper, but this is what
I do. I just get out of bed, Imake myself tea, and I tell
myself, if I'm going to bed, Icannot think about anything, you
know, and it just is for her totell me that it happens to her
because I had, I'm juststruggling. I have been in the

(45:41):
last couple months, because it'sI'm not used to sleeping like
this, like waking up in themiddle of night, and so it's
not, I'm not as productiveduring the day because I'm so
tired. But I started to be like,well, if this is gonna happen,
like, you know, I'll doeverything I can to be as
healthy as I can. But if thisjust starts happening, and this
is what's gonna happen. Like, Ineed to learn how to work with

(46:02):
it and not let it, like, run mylife, and for them to just tell
me, like, yep, that's how itstarts to go. Like, when you
start getting into, like, late30s and 40s, you can start
having, like, sleep, probably,yeah, I know. No, I feel a lot
more settled about it, though.

Yeah, that makes sense. I relate when you
told me, you like, I'm notsleeping, I was like, Well, I
just got a puppy, and those twoweeks, like the first, at least
the first week, like, she waswaking up every couple of hours
and to go to, like, and I wouldlet her out, and the in the day,
I was just like, how do peoplelive like this? Like, I just was

(46:40):
miserable, and I was like, okay,you know what? Like, luckily, it
was over the Christmas break,and I break that I took for
myself because, and I was takingnaps every afternoon because I
really needed it, and then Iwould feel better. And I'm like,
Oh, it's just that I neededsleep. Like, it's not that I'm a
terrible human who's now turnedinto, like, something else. But

(47:04):
that sleep thing is, like, is sohard, like, I can just imagine
that, yeah,

Laura Day (47:09):
and it, but it felt, it felt really bad, a lot better
for someone to say yes. Like,and, you know, she said, this
happens. No one talks about it.
I was like, Oh, I felt relief.
Okay, I get it. But anyways,back to the yoga thing. This
practice is so it is so aboutunderstanding your body and the

(47:30):
way it moves and the way itfeels and the way. And I don't
think a lot of instructors teachyoga from that standpoint of
what you feel in your body.
They're just like, bendbackward, touch this, do that,
yeah,

yeah. If you want to go deeper, like, Take
this, oh, there's like, ascript, you know, you just like,
go to enough classes. You have ascript. I've done. I did a night
some younger classes when I wasin India as well, and it was
like, You do like three poses aclass, because you're holding
them each for like 10 minutes,yeah. And

Laura Day (47:58):
it's incredible, because I feel that that time
spent thinking about, like, thelittle turn in my shoulder where
my tailbone is, it hasconnected. I've always been
pretty good at, like, feeling mybody, like, if something hurts,
and describing it. Alexis, whatshe's like, you're really good
at, like, articulating What'swrong, yeah. And I was like, Oh,

(48:20):
that's good. And she's like,you're very aware, but this has
made me even more aware in thefeeling, and that has translated
back to surfing and feeling thatawareness in the board, which
has also translated intoimprovement. Because I think
people want to, of course,video, video helps. All of that
helps, right? But you thinkabout how people got really good

(48:41):
at surfing with no videowhatsoever for a long time. And
it's that connection from yourwith your body, to the way, to
the board and to the way. AndI've been trying to surf more
from that place of like, okay,how can I just feel from my feet
through my legs, you know, backto the board, to the wave, yeah.
And I quite honestly, feel like,not that I surf better in the

(49:05):
sense of I can do maneuvers, isI feel in flow. I feel like with
the wave, I feel like it's aconversation. And I when I watch
videos of people surfingsoulfully, that's what I see.
It's like, it's this response tothe water, and so I feel better
about my surfing no matter if Idid a maneuver I thought I was

(49:26):
going to do or not, because thatfeeling's there. Yeah,

I really like what you said about that
response. And it's like actingout that relationship between
you and the ocean. It's like,what does is the wave kind of
like providing and what does itallow for? And then you like
moving into that space. It'slike this co creation, and it's
like that in yoga, I think,between yourself and your body
and and a big thing in yoga forme was always like this practice

(49:52):
of the ego of like, but youcould do this, you could
stretch, you could go a littledeeper, and it's like coming
back and being like. Should I,like, I know, how many people
get injured doing yoga becausethey just want to, like, go
deeper. And I'm not immune tothat. I have for myself in
stretching or, like, you know,because I used to be able to do
a pose or stretching or doingyoga after you haven't done it

(50:16):
for a while, is actually, oryoga asana is so nice because
you're more sore or you're moretense, and so you feel
everything more which is alsolike kind of a nice change, but
coming back to it is just beingin a pose, and then just like
testing your boundaries and yourlimits and hearing from your
body, no stop. And then actuallystopping creates this, like

(50:37):
really trusting relationshipbetween you and your body. And
then I think that translates inlife. I think that translates in
the water, yeah? So I hate tojust be like, Oh, it's a surf
and yoga retreat, because it'snot like, surf and stretch, you
know, like, that's not what Imean for it to be, but that's
kind of what it might soundlike. So, yeah, reconnect

(50:58):
retreats,

Laura Day (50:59):
yeah, what do they need to know? Where can they
find more information, evenlike, what's coming up, but then
also, like, you know, justgenerally speaking, because
someone could be listening tous, like, a year later.

So right. Okay, so as of right now, there is one
in March. There will be one inI'm looking I had to reschedule
this one. But May or June, 2025,and November 2025 all the
information is available on mywebsite. So Leah
donatello.com/surf retreat or,yeah, you can open in the show

(51:32):
now. Instagram, yeah. Instagram,Leah dot Donatello, those will
be ongoing, and this year I'mopening up a coaching or
mentoring container three orfour months before each retreat,
minus the march one, so that ifyou wanted to do personal
mentoring, you could, and thenyou could come to a retreat and,

(51:54):
like, put it all in action so itcould, like, line up for certain
clients like that if they wantedit to and maybe one day I will
do that in a group form, whichis, like, would be kind of cool
to have a group of people thatgo through, like, a container of
people that go through coachingtogether, and then they all come
on the retreat. I think thatwould be

Laura Day (52:12):
quite cool. But that would be so cool, yeah, yeah,
because we've had, like, withserve society. Our first trip
was down to Baja, and so it's,it's so cool to, like, have a
group of girls who have nevermet in person, but have had a
lot of conversations togetheronline and been through, like,
the educational materials, andthen meet in person, and it's a
completely different dynamicthan just jumping into a trip

(52:32):
with people that you don't knowyet. Because when you don't know
the people yet, right? It takesyou a couple days, like, warm up
and get that vibe and everythingdown. So yeah, I think that's,
like, a great idea. Yeah, I

think you also told me I should do that, like,
years ago, and I was like, Noway. Who's gonna do that? But
it's just like, you know thisthat self sabotage, like,
wanting to stay comfortable andlike, ease the we like, want to
ease the like, what sort likethe fall like, if it doesn't
work, we want to, like, yeah,um, soften the blow, I guess is

(53:06):
what you call it. So it's like,that's not, that's not a good
mindset. Don't do that anymore.

Laura Day (53:12):
I mean, when you're an entrepreneur and you're doing
everything, it's, it'sabsolutely easy to go into a
self doubt mode, but, but Ithink when same thing like
surfing, you keep putting thetime and you keep showing up,
you get to a point where you'relike, Well, how many times did I
think I was gonna fail, but Idid it anyway, but I just
learned something from it, yeah.
And like, How many times did Ithink everything was gonna fall

(53:34):
apart and blow up? And it neverdid, yeah? And

then you just cut away what doesn't work, and
you figure it out. And yeah, butI mean, so yeah, for and it's
kind of like surfing, like theprogress can be really slow in
surfing, like you can really beat it for a while and be like,
I'm not getting better. Butactually, it all adds up. It all
adds up. No matter if you didn'tcatch a single wave, you

(53:58):
definitely learn something. Imean, it's not like, those
aren't the sessions where youfeel like you learned a lot, or
probably not, but like, unlessit's, I mean, you still can, I
guess. But you know, you canhave the most frustrating
session and not catch a singlewave, but you still are getting
better, which is, like, reallyhard to believe, because then
one day you're just, you justhave an amazing session out of
nowhere, but it's because of allthat time you already put in.

(54:20):
And so it's kind of like that, Ithink, too, when you're doing
all the things,

Unknown (54:25):
I agree, Mike, we talk for hours.
Have to cut us off now,

Laura Day (54:30):
but I'm gonna put the link in the show notes. And for
those of you that want to learnmore from Leah, you can go to
Leah donatella.com she's alsoone of her surf guides at the
surf society. So she did anutrition series that's still in
there, really important. So Leahtaught me that I needed to eat
the night before. We talked alot about when to eat. So her

(54:53):
workshops are still there thatyou can definitely learn from
and apply to your to your surfroutine. Mean to surf better and
stay out longer. Feel betterwhile you're out there. And
then, yeah, if you guys want toget in touch with Leanne, learn
more about her reconnectretreats and coaching and
intuitive medicine woman on therise, everything, everything,

Unknown (55:17):
all the links in the show notes. Well,

thanks. Yeah, I'm happy to, like, just have
conversations with people ifthey want to come on a trip, and
they're, like, not sure if thisis for them or, like, same with
mentoring, like, I'm reallyhappy to hop on a call with or
voice note or whatever. And, youknow, I think that these trips
are, it's not just, like, catchas many waves as you can. It's

(55:41):
like there's something more toit. So it always brings, like, a
certain type of person, but italways really works, like the
people who come are alwaysreally there for the right
reasons, and they're smallgroups, which I just love, like
we Yeah, anyway, I could talkmore, but

Unknown (55:57):
I know podcast number two, we can tell we could
totally talk for like, hours. Ithink one day we got on a call
and we talked for like, four

hours, I know, and time just goes by so fast,
but I know I just feel like, Idon't want to say, I have it all
figured out. Nobody does, but Ithink I figured out a lot. I
think I've really figured out,you know, like, just a lot about
and also, I think I'm morecomfortable in the part that I
just haven't figured out yet.
And I have this, maybe this issomething good we could end on,

(56:26):
like, taking this beginner'smindset that we should have
every time we go surfing. This,I tell people this, you know,
like, go without expectations,go thinking you might not catch
any waves, and then you'll havea great session. And, like, just
because you have a good surf oneday doesn't mean you're gonna
have a good surf the next day.
And when you're doing any sortof self development, self or,

(56:47):
like, you know, spiritual workor anything, I think it's the
same thing. Like, just becauseyou had one really good
meditation or you had one reallygood day doesn't mean the rest
are going to be like that, andalso not and that's not to say
you're failing or you're doinganything wrong. It's just that's
how it is. Like life moves liketides, you know, like it moves
like water and healing, and isnot just linear. And so I think

(57:09):
taking in this beginner mindsetfrom surfing and applying it to
just everything else, I justthink makes like we get this
like, happy, curiosity and likeexcitement. Like he said, like,
I'm excited to age. I'm excitedfor this. I'm looking forward to
the process, right? So in ourmindset moving forward.

Laura Day (57:34):
All right, lady, we've come to the end of our
episode, but not the end of theconversation after listening. I
hope that you feel represented,empowered and even better
connected to your surf sistersin our beautiful surf lady
community, let's stay connectedbefore our next episode. Follow
me on Instagram at Confessionsof a surf lady and follow our

(57:57):
amazing women's surf community,where we get together to learn
more, surf better and livehappy. That is at surf society,
spelled s, O, C, i, e, t, e,last but not least, join us in
our exclusive surf societyplatform. Join us for your first
week free by clicking the linkat the top of the show notes,

(58:18):
thank you so much for bringingyour unique and beautiful self
to our lineup at Confessions ofa surf lady, I'll see you on our
next episode. Your host, LauraDay, you.

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