December 18, 2025 • 26 mins
Long before Jordan High Choir Director Jaron Putnam ever stood in front of a choir, music was already shaping who he would become.
“One of my first memories of being a human being was singing "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" with my family,” Putnam says. “My dad sang in a barbershop quartet growing up and so my siblings were harmonizing, and I just was surrounded by harmony from a very early age.”
That foundation — music as connection and shared purpose — is what Putnam now works to cultivate in Jordan High’s Madrigals, a group that has grown into one of the state’s most accomplished musical ensembles. Whether performing at local events and spreading holiday cheer throughout the community, or competing on prestigious stages, the Jordan Madrigals are demonstrating how music education can open doors in school, work, and life.
The ensemble has taken home top marks in the Utah high school Shakespeare Festival, and is preparing to compete at the San Diego Heritage Festival, where choirs from across the country are evaluated against national adjudication standards.
But accolades are only part of the story.
In the latest episode of Connect Canyons, Putnam is joined by Madrigal members Katie Barnes, Adam Lindsay, Evelyn Shore, John Hamm, and Titus Tyler who reflect on how being part of the choir has shaped their confidence, discipline, and a sense of belonging in the Beetdigger community. Students describe finding their voices — sometimes literally for the first time — while learning how to work as a team and master skills to develop the courage to perform under pressure.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:56):
Today I'm joined by Jordan High director Jaren
Putnam and some of his musicallytalented students.
Thank you all for being here.
SPEAKER_07 (01:03):
Having us.
SPEAKER_03 (01:04):
Mr.
Putnam, let's start with you andthen I'll have you students
introduce yourselves.
How did you come to be the choirdirector at Jordan High and what
got you into musical educationto begin with?
SPEAKER_06 (01:15):
Thanks for that question.
I would say that from very, veryearly on, that was sort of where
I was headed.
One of my first memories ofbeing a human being was singing
zippity-doodah with my family.
My dad sang in a barbershopquartet growing up.
SPEAKER_07 (01:31):
Wow.
SPEAKER_06 (01:31):
And so my siblings were harmonizing.
I was sort of at the age where Igot asked to sing the melody.
And I just I was surrounded byharmony from a very early age.
SPEAKER_03 (01:46):
Of course.
I love that.
SPEAKER_06 (01:47):
Yeah, but it was part of my dad's with singing
with the barbershop quartet isone of the tunes that we would
we presented.
I don't even remember where weperformed it, but my mom and dad
encouraged us all to take pianolessons.
So we have a family full ofpeople who can play the piano.
All of us went and chose asecond instrument.
So I played violin in highschool.
I knew by the time I was ajunior in high school that I
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wanted to do music.
And music education was where Iwas headed.
I had a really influential highschool choir teacher myself.
We actually got the chance tomeet him last year.
Many of us on our choir tour, wewent to Boise, Idaho for our
tour and had the chance to go tomy old high school and
participate there.
That inspiration of a reallygood teacher meant a lot to me.
So even from that point, I knewmusic was what I wanted and
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really just never looked back.
So got my degree and wasteaching.
I did one year at Bear RiverMiddle School, teaching choir
and band.
And then I got a job at SkyviewHigh School, which is up north
in Cache Valley, taught therefor four years.
This job opened up, applied forit, and was so fortunate to land
this job in this amazingdistrict at an amazing school
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with amazing students.
And it's been an amazing coupleof years.
This is my third year at JordanHigh.
SPEAKER_03 (02:59):
That's fantastic.
And getting these guys startedoff, I mean, a multi-state tour
when you're in choir.
Hello.
SPEAKER_06 (03:07):
This year we're going to San Diego.
So in the spring.
Yep, we've got plans to head toSan Diego in March or April.
I don't know.
The spring.
Late March.
SPEAKER_03 (03:16):
Okay, let's touch on that a little bit more soon as
well.
I'm now gonna have Zipdy Doo Dastuck in my hand.
So thanks for that.
I'd love to have each of youintroduce yourself.
We do have two other members ofthe choir here that are gonna
introduce themselves laterbecause you guys might have a
song ready.
We might.
Maybe I can convince you tosing.
For those of you here at thetable, would you uh tell us who
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you are and what got you wantingto be in choir and start out in
music?
SPEAKER_04 (03:44):
I'm Adam Lindsay.
In middle school, I started outnot thinking I would do choir or
anything of that sort, noperforming arts.
I was just gonna live.
It was my COVID year of middleschool, and so I had to live
through that as well.
And I needed a art, and my momtold me to try choir, and so I
did, and I loved the directorand got to perform music in a
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way that I really enjoyed, and Iproceeded to move up my way
through the choirs andeventually get to choir at
Jordan and got to be with ourdirector, Mr.
Putnam, and it's just so muchfun being there, and it just
makes me love choir even more.
SPEAKER_09 (04:30):
So I'm Evelyn Shore, and growing up I didn't have a
lot of experience with thechoir.
I did sing around the house alot, like I made up songs, and I
did piano as a kid, but that wasmore of a chore.
So when I was in middle school,I started getting into choir,
and I really liked it, but Iespecially liked it once I
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progressed into high schoolchoir, and like I just didn't
know that like music could soundthis beautiful altogether, and
I've been able to perform piecesthat like just sound so good and
they're so fun to sing and justto work on and shape, and so
yeah, I really love music.
SPEAKER_01 (05:11):
My name is Titus Tyler, and I actually started
out in choir back in sixthgrade, so I was not gonna do
choir, but when I got into highschool, my mom was like, Oh, you
should totally try it.
You have a new teacher, it'll begreat.
And it was honestly like thebest thing that I've done in
high school because Mr.
Putnam is amazing, and I've madeso many good friends.
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I do soccer, and the last coupleyears I did basketball on top of
choir.
But if you like it the choir iskind of flexible, and I feel
like everything just lays outperfectly.
So it's like you can kind ofjust do everything.
SPEAKER_00 (05:53):
I'm Johnny Hamm, and so I started in band.
I'm a big band guy.
I started playing the saxophonein middle school and learned the
trombone and stuck with that forhigh school.
And I've been doing band for along time, but then my junior
year I figured, I mean, I'd I'dthrow myself out there.
I I mean I I like music, I likethe sounds of it, so so I
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auditioned and I made it intothe a cappella choir my junior
year.
And I mean, I enjoyed everyevery part of it.
I made lots of friends, and Ifeel like choir is a place where
you don't need the experienceyou need for instrument.
You can just hop in and you canjoin those harmonies, and it's a
unique experience, and I thinkyou can meet new people easily.
SPEAKER_03 (06:36):
It's a team effort, right?
You're not just I mean, you mayhave a solo here and there, or
you know, some of the smallerquartets or a trio if you're you
know competing, but in the endit's it's you and 20 or 30 other
people just making musictogether.
SPEAKER_08 (06:52):
My name's Kate Barnes.
I like when I was a reallylittle kid, I totally remember
making up songs and performingthem for my family and stuff.
And then when I was like 10,this like local theater, they
were having auditions for Josephand the amazing Technicolor
Dreamcoat.
And my family we like loved thatmusical.
And my mom was like, Do you wantto audition?
They want like kids in it.
And I was like, Yeah.
So then me and my sister didthat show, and that's kind of
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what got me into likeperforming.
SPEAKER_03 (07:15):
Joseph is a great place to start.
I feel like a lot of people gettheir start with Joseph, right?
Like they're either introducedto it with Donnie Marie, or
that's just the go-to show.
What was your have you seen thatversion?
SPEAKER_06 (07:27):
Have you seen the Donnie Osmo?
SPEAKER_03 (07:28):
Yeah, that was the one that we yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I did go a little deep on thatone.
I apologize.
I forget what age groups were.
That was my first experiencewith it.
VHS tape conversion.
Utah royalty right there.
Choir's fun, right?
You get those beautifulharmonies, especially I love a
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good, you know, minor key tightharmony for whatever reason that
just sings to me.
I'm getting a couple nods here,so think I'm not the only one.
It expresses so much, I mean,music in and of itself is just
such a unique experience.
Why do you, as students, feellike taking music as part of
your education is important?
SPEAKER_08 (08:13):
I don't know.
I just think it's like it's sucha unique way to like well
connect with other people.
And also it's just like it's socool to like because like
everyone can sing, right?
But like to really like likefine-tune everything and figure
out different like techniquesthat work for you when you're
like singing and stuff.
I don't know, it's just so cool.
And I and like when you sing allthese harmonies and stuff, like
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that feeling that you get oflike joy and like excitement is
just like something that likeyou can't really get anywhere
else.
SPEAKER_09 (08:42):
Yeah, I totally agree.
I feel like doing choir in highschool, you just build such a
good sense of community and likebeyond what you get in the
classroom, and also learning allthe sorts of music in class, you
get all this feedback and likelearning that you wouldn't get
outside of high school, and itreally really like jump starts
you to if you want to pursue itafter high school, and then you
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have the best time with all ofyour friends and your teachers,
and it's just a blast.
SPEAKER_04 (09:09):
Personally, in my high school experience so far,
I've found it such a relief tono matter like the stresses that
go on during high school orwhatever, I can always find
relief or that de-stressing inthe choir room, making chords
lock, just having a great time,but also just having the music
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to take me away from thestresses of life.
SPEAKER_03 (09:36):
Which I mean that's what we do in our cars, right?
Or in the shower.
You guys you guys make up songsat home.
Do you find yourself doing uhwarm-up runs when you're just
around and about?
SPEAKER_09 (09:46):
You'll definitely catch me doing like sirens
everywhere, especially beforeshows and concerts and things.
SPEAKER_03 (09:52):
Demonstrate a siren for those who don't know.
SPEAKER_09 (09:57):
It's just a very helpful warm-up, and I have to
stop myself sometimes.
SPEAKER_03 (10:02):
Just in the grocery store, you randomly hear a
sound.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I've been there.
I mean, you I love what you allare saying about that sense of
community, that sense of beingable to get away from some of
the things that may be causingstress or you know, just taking
that deep breath when you getinto choir, which I mean,
breathing is a big part of it.
unknown (10:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (10:24):
But there's also that bigger impact, right?
You're learning skills that youmay not even realize yet, you're
transferring to your otherclasses.
Mr.
Putnam, how are you seeingmusical lessons transform in
your students?
SPEAKER_06 (10:40):
Oh, it's a remarkable process to see.
And I love starting a new yearfresh, and you get, you know,
the new freshmen coming in, andthe choir sound is sort of
unmolded and unshaped.
And I think you all remember ourfirst concerts of the year and
then compare them to our lastconcerts of the year, you know,
and how much how much growththere is.
And like you said, it's it ismusical skills, but it goes
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beyond that, doesn't it?
It's those life lessons thateveryone needs to learn to be
successful.
It's how to how to stick withsomething, how to have
discipline, how to work wellwith others, how to take
instruction, how to problemsolve.
It's all of these skills thatare just gonna serve all of
these students so well in theirlives.
And not to downplay theeducation side of math or
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science or history, but I thinkthose skills can really shine
and acquire setting, and I lovethat.
SPEAKER_03 (11:31):
I mean, they impact each other.
There was a recent study by theAmerican Psychological
Association, you brought up mathand science.
Students who take music coursesactually score significantly
better on math and science examsthan their non-musical peers.
So it's just something that youmay not see outside of the
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auditorium, but then you seethese results and you go, oh,
maybe there is a little moresomething to this.
Do you feel as students thatyour time with in choir or with
taking any of the arts haschanged you as a student or as a
person?
SPEAKER_04 (12:06):
Um, personally, having been in choir for a
couple of years and getting alittle bit more into the theater
aspect, I've learned as aperforming arts student that a
lot of times my directors knowbest, and through that I can
learn better from them, and I'vebeen able to apply that to my
other classes where I can askquestions of my teachers because
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they know the curriculum and Ican learn it from them, and they
can be my sort of director inthose aspects of my learning.
SPEAKER_09 (12:36):
I feel like choir as a class in a community just
brings so much passion that likeyou may not have in any of your
other classes, but it likeencourages you to try and find
it in all of your othersubjects, whether you like them
or not, because you know howpassionate you can be with
certain things and how amazingit can be to learn and to grow,
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not just in choir.
SPEAKER_08 (12:59):
I think it also probably helps like what you
were talking about earlier,Adam, about like taking a break
from the other subjects that howchoir kind of gives you that.
It I don't know, maybe there's apart of that that kind of gives
us like a little bit of rest sothat we're more prepared the
next day.
But I also think that I'vereally seen like as I've grown
as like a performer and asinger, I've really seen how
like I've learned things aboutlike kind of trusting the
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process, about like figuring outdifferent like problem-solving
skills that help me with myvoice, but that can also be
applied to other classes.
SPEAKER_03 (13:27):
Yeah.
Learning to take direction frompeople.
I think a lot of people might,you know, if you hear, oh,
you're doing it wrong,regardless of how that's said in
your direction, then I'm notdoing it wrong.
Oh, okay, maybe I am, but youknow, even just being able to
adjust, and I think, like youguys have said, being able to
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match, you know, I mean, you'rematching pitch with how many
kids at the same time.
Just listening to others,whether they're your peers or
your directors, I think is sucha strong skill to be building at
such a young age.
We're now, we're not evenheading into the holiday season.
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We are in the holiday season, weare in the mix.
I'd love to know what you allare doing.
I know you have a lot ofconcerts going on, any special
events or things that you'relooking forward to or that
you've done.
SPEAKER_04 (14:19):
I'm in the Madrigal, our highest choir, and in a
cappella, our like first sort ofstep up audition choir.
And we started our holiday musiclike weeks ago.
And like before Halloween.
SPEAKER_06 (14:38):
Yeah, our first concert was early October, and
we were we were starting holidaystuff right after that.
So such is the life of being achoir student, isn't it?
If you want to be prepared, yougotta learn.
SPEAKER_04 (14:47):
Oh yeah.
But it just helps me feel theholiday spirit personally, and
it's just fun to start theholidays early on.
SPEAKER_09 (14:54):
It is so fun to like begin working on Christmas music
like the second week of October,and you're walking out of class
with like Christmas songs stuckin your head all day.
So that's really fun.
But one of the performances thatwe have in December is we have
the honor of performing in thetabernacle down at Temple Square
every year.
And it's such a cool experienceto look forward to.
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Like all this music that you'vepracticed and rehearsed in class
is now in an entirely differentspace, but it just has such a
magic to it.
And so that's one of my mostfavorite experiences in our
Christmas season.
SPEAKER_08 (15:29):
I love the tabernacle as well.
It's so fun.
It's so fun to like go downtownand be in that area, and it's so
like Christmasy and and you getto be with all your friends and
stuff.
But I also just love like all ofthe, especially like in
Magrigals, we have so manyperformances.
Like some of them are like afterschool, a lot of them are during
school, but it's just like sofun to be able to, you know,
perform together in so manydifferent places and singing fun
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Christmas songs that we alllove.
It's like the best.
SPEAKER_06 (15:52):
It it really is a wonderful experience.
We're we're visiting a coupleelementary schools in our in our
circuit.
We're performing at MountainJordan Middle at their holiday
choir concert, we're doing somesenior assisted living centers.
We've been invited to performfor the Corvette owners of Utah.
Okay, and the daughters of theUtah Pioneers.
And so there's all these groups,and so as a director, it's
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really fun uh as we as we getinto these months.
I just sort of keeping an eye onmy inbox.
SPEAKER_07 (16:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (16:17):
And these requests will come in and we try and line
up as many as we can because Iit's it's a busy schedule,
right?
Oh but busy in a good way andpretty fulfilling.
I I hope.
Yeah, I'm not paying you moneyto say that in the right.
I really do.
At the end of the season, I'dfeel exhausted, but it's that
really good, positive kind ofexhausted where I think there's
an impact that's made.
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And it's not just an impact onus, but it's the people that we
have the chance to perform to,especially in some of those
instances.
Some of my favorite performancesare at those assisted living
centers.
Yeah.
Yeah, having a chance to go in,and it's really becomes a little
more of an active service.
And I love that aspect of it somuch.
SPEAKER_03 (16:55):
And I imagine that sense of community is just like
you said, so fulfilling.
You just go home at the end ofthe day and you're exhausted,
but in that good way where youknow you're gonna get a good
night's sleep.
Yeah.
And you're going to Californiain the spring.
Yes.
What's the deal there?
SPEAKER_06 (17:11):
Yeah, I think that's one of the facets of a good,
healthy performing arts program.
And it's something we do reallywell at Jordan, is an
opportunity to do a yearly tour.
Now it's something the studentshave to opt into because it does
come at a cost.
Sure.
We do a fundraiser, we try andhelp it make it as easy as we
can on the students.
But every year we're taking it'sactually not just the choir.
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I think a cool thing we do atJordan is we go with the
orchestra and the band as well.
So it becomes a big jointeffort.
We try and do a sort of biggertour one year, and then the next
year we'll do a smaller one, andthen a bigger one, and a smaller
one.
So California is one of ourbigger years.
Two years ago we went toDisneyland, we went to Anaheim.
Last year we went to Boise.
This year we're going to SanDiego.
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And those tours, it's not aboutit, it is about having fun, but
that's not the only facet ofthis experience.
So we usually participate in anational music competition.
It's called the HeritageFestival.
Two years ago we did music inthe parks, but it's this
nationally recognized thing.
We got some trophies last timewe did this.
We're hoping to take sometrophies again.
Yeah.
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We try and see either aprofessional level musical or uh
symphony performance, or sothere's all these sort of goals
that Mr.
Wright and I, Mr.
Wright's the band and orchestrateacher at Jordan, all these
goals we're trying to cross offas we plan these tours.
But once again, I turning itback over to the students.
It becomes one of the most funevents of the year and one of
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the most fulfilling and awesomeevents of the year.
Would you have anything you'dwant to say about tours?
SPEAKER_04 (18:40):
I personally love the opportunity to not only
participate in thesecompetitions, but I get to have
the opportunity to connect withmy peers in another way.
And one of my favorite partsabout these tours is that
they're through bus, and so weget to sit on a bus for hours
and hours and talk and talk.
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And without the environment ofsinging, it just becomes a
different environment, and I getto connect with these people,
but then also compete withalongside of these talented
individuals.
SPEAKER_07 (19:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_09 (19:15):
The build-up to tour is like what, like five months?
Like after Christmas, we um westart prepping our festival
music, and it's like such a bigbuild-up, and you're saving up
money all year, but it's so soworth it.
And the buses are really fun,they don't let us sing on the
bus for good reason.
Um but it's that's not my rule,by the way.
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For the sake of others.
Um, but just like the memoriesyou make on those tours are like
they're priceless.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (19:47):
It's like there's like just so many experiences
that we would not get anywhereelse that we get to have, and
it's really, really fun.
SPEAKER_03 (19:54):
I had the opportunity to travel to
California with my choir acouple years in a row, and I
still remember.
A lot of the the events we gotto go to, but that even that
time just sitting for hours on abus and bonding with someone
that you maybe never would havemet to begin with had you not
both joined choir.
So it's very cool to hear thatyou are going to be able to
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experience that as well and thatyou've enjoyed your your journey
so far.
Before we get to the song, I'dlove to just ask each of you to
share what message would youlike to share about choir or
about music and education?
SPEAKER_04 (20:33):
Even if you don't have experience, just trying to
gain that experience in music,even if it's just for fun or
just for a little bit.
Gaining that experience andhaving that in your arsenal of,
oh yeah, I did choir that year,or oh yeah, I can play this
instrument even at a smalllevel.
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It just is a really funexperience, and you get to not
only say you did it, but you canhave that skill and expertise.
SPEAKER_09 (21:04):
My message would be that it's like a really fun
experience, and it's not justindividual, it's such a team
effort, and like the things thatyou get to build together are
incredible.
Like you cannot create thisbeautiful music or these
beautiful songs by yourself.
Like, sure, you can sing a solo,but the things that you can
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build together as a choir likeare unmatchable.
Like it can't reach it, youcan't replace it.
SPEAKER_08 (21:34):
I just think it's like a really unique thing to do
because like in a way, choir islike it's kind of it's easier to
join, maybe than starting aninstrument or like playing a
sport in some ways.
Because it's like everyone cansing and everyone sings like all
the time, most people at least.
But like the more you like getinto it, the more like little
things that you learn, and themore little things that you
hear, and like it's actuallylike really hard if you like
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there's like just once you learnmore about it, there's just so
many little things that it'slike it's hard to accomplish.
Like when you're singing alltogether, it's it can be really
challenging to all be able tosing like blending and on top of
the note and like not flat andlike with the same vowel shape
and with dynamics andeverything, and it's just like a
really, really cool experience.
And even if like you end updoing it and you don't like it,
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at least you did it, you know,and then you have that under
your belt, and it's just reallyreally fun.
SPEAKER_03 (22:23):
I'm impressed with the uh choir teacher speak on
top of the notes, you're notflat.
Same vowel sounds, we're makingthe O sound, not the ah sound.
It's drilled into our heads.
It is good.
That's what that means Mr.
Putnam's doing a good job.
I was nodding my head furiously.
SPEAKER_06 (22:42):
I was glad to hear all that.
SPEAKER_00 (22:43):
How about you?
I think music, you just get tomeet so many different people.
Like, so I've I've done MarchingMan for four years, and I feel
like the amount of people Imeet, because it's like the
whole it's sort of the wholedistrict, I do it with Alta, and
I learn people from CornerCanyon, it's my best friends
I've learned there.
And if I didn't do music inmiddle school and started this
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whole path, I wouldn't have metthem.
And like I feel like when I goto these random high schools, I
see people I know because I metthem at March Admit or like
music or whatever.
I just find friends fromanywhere.
I even like at the store, I justsee people I know.
SPEAKER_03 (23:19):
That's beautiful.
It's lovely to hear how you haveall taken not only these life
lessons, but the friendships,the memories, you're taking
those to heart.
You're you know taking fulladvantage of really just such a
fun thing to do.
Speaking of fun things for meand our audience, could we get
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you guys to sing us a song?
SPEAKER_09 (23:41):
Yes, yes, indeed.
That'd be so fun.
SPEAKER_06 (23:43):
We would love to.
Now, I just want to can Ipreface the song?
Maybe we want to sing for you.
Yeah.
Now, there was so many studentsI could have picked to come do
this, and all of them would havedone an amazing job.
This particular group ofstudents, I felt the honor was
well deserved.
This group of students competedat our Shakespeare competition
in October.
So it's another cool thing weget to do.
And this group competed in thesmallest music category.
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It's called Troubadour.
You can only have five people init.
And I would say, out of all themusic events, it's it has, I
think, the most entries.
If you look at the schedule ofevents, most the most schools
sort of put entries in this forthe music side of the
competition.
SPEAKER_03 (24:21):
I think it's a big event for the entire
competition.
It is.
SPEAKER_06 (24:24):
And this particular group of students this year took
first place, beating out everyother school in this particular
category.
Oh, absolutely.
And we were all so proud ofthem.
They worked their tails off forthis particular song.
So we're gonna present it.
This isn't a holiday one.
I hope that's okay.
Oh, audience listening inDecember.
This is just a little vocalsnippet from the piece that they
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sang for the competition.
What we're missing is auto harpplayed by Adam, recorders played
by Titus and Johnny, tromboneplayed by Johnny.
SPEAKER_03 (24:56):
Wow.
SPEAKER_06 (24:56):
Hand drum played by Kate and Evelyn.
So we did this amazing thingwhere we did some instrument
instruments and singing.
And I just want on the recordthat I'm really proud of these
students for the work and whatthey did.
So that's what we'd like toshare with you is just a little
snippet of a Renaissance songcalled Martin Said to His Man.
SPEAKER_05 (25:15):
Oh, Martin said, Man, who safely.
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I see her.
I see her chase March Mel, Mel.
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Today I'm joined by Jordan High director Jaren
Putnam and some of his musicallytalented students.
Thank you all for being here.
SPEAKER_07 (01:03):
Having us.
SPEAKER_03 (01:04):
Mr.
Putnam, let's start with you andthen I'll have you students
introduce yourselves.
How did you come to be the choirdirector at Jordan High and what
got you into musical educationto begin with?
SPEAKER_06 (01:15):
Thanks for that question.
I would say that from very, veryearly on, that was sort of where
I was headed.
One of my first memories ofbeing a human being was singing
zippity-doodah with my family.
My dad sang in a barbershopquartet growing up.
SPEAKER_07 (01:31):
Wow.
SPEAKER_06 (01:31):
And so my siblings were harmonizing.
I was sort of at the age where Igot asked to sing the melody.
And I just I was surrounded byharmony from a very early age.
SPEAKER_03 (01:46):
Of course.
I love that.
SPEAKER_06 (01:47):
Yeah, but it was part of my dad's with singing
with the barbershop quartet isone of the tunes that we would
we presented.
I don't even remember where weperformed it, but my mom and dad
encouraged us all to take pianolessons.
So we have a family full ofpeople who can play the piano.
All of us went and chose asecond instrument.
So I played violin in highschool.
I knew by the time I was ajunior in high school that I
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wanted to do music.
And music education was where Iwas headed.
I had a really influential highschool choir teacher myself.
We actually got the chance tomeet him last year.
Many of us on our choir tour, wewent to Boise, Idaho for our
tour and had the chance to go tomy old high school and
participate there.
That inspiration of a reallygood teacher meant a lot to me.
So even from that point, I knewmusic was what I wanted and
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really just never looked back.
So got my degree and wasteaching.
I did one year at Bear RiverMiddle School, teaching choir
and band.
And then I got a job at SkyviewHigh School, which is up north
in Cache Valley, taught therefor four years.
This job opened up, applied forit, and was so fortunate to land
this job in this amazingdistrict at an amazing school
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with amazing students.
And it's been an amazing coupleof years.
This is my third year at JordanHigh.
SPEAKER_03 (02:59):
That's fantastic.
And getting these guys startedoff, I mean, a multi-state tour
when you're in choir.
Hello.
SPEAKER_06 (03:07):
This year we're going to San Diego.
So in the spring.
Yep, we've got plans to head toSan Diego in March or April.
I don't know.
The spring.
Late March.
SPEAKER_03 (03:16):
Okay, let's touch on that a little bit more soon as
well.
I'm now gonna have Zipdy Doo Dastuck in my hand.
So thanks for that.
I'd love to have each of youintroduce yourself.
We do have two other members ofthe choir here that are gonna
introduce themselves laterbecause you guys might have a
song ready.
We might.
Maybe I can convince you tosing.
For those of you here at thetable, would you uh tell us who
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you are and what got you wantingto be in choir and start out in
music?
SPEAKER_04 (03:44):
I'm Adam Lindsay.
In middle school, I started outnot thinking I would do choir or
anything of that sort, noperforming arts.
I was just gonna live.
It was my COVID year of middleschool, and so I had to live
through that as well.
And I needed a art, and my momtold me to try choir, and so I
did, and I loved the directorand got to perform music in a
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way that I really enjoyed, and Iproceeded to move up my way
through the choirs andeventually get to choir at
Jordan and got to be with ourdirector, Mr.
Putnam, and it's just so muchfun being there, and it just
makes me love choir even more.
SPEAKER_09 (04:30):
So I'm Evelyn Shore, and growing up I didn't have a
lot of experience with thechoir.
I did sing around the house alot, like I made up songs, and I
did piano as a kid, but that wasmore of a chore.
So when I was in middle school,I started getting into choir,
and I really liked it, but Iespecially liked it once I
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progressed into high schoolchoir, and like I just didn't
know that like music could soundthis beautiful altogether, and
I've been able to perform piecesthat like just sound so good and
they're so fun to sing and justto work on and shape, and so
yeah, I really love music.
SPEAKER_01 (05:11):
My name is Titus Tyler, and I actually started
out in choir back in sixthgrade, so I was not gonna do
choir, but when I got into highschool, my mom was like, Oh, you
should totally try it.
You have a new teacher, it'll begreat.
And it was honestly like thebest thing that I've done in
high school because Mr.
Putnam is amazing, and I've madeso many good friends.
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I do soccer, and the last coupleyears I did basketball on top of
choir.
But if you like it the choir iskind of flexible, and I feel
like everything just lays outperfectly.
So it's like you can kind ofjust do everything.
SPEAKER_00 (05:53):
I'm Johnny Hamm, and so I started in band.
I'm a big band guy.
I started playing the saxophonein middle school and learned the
trombone and stuck with that forhigh school.
And I've been doing band for along time, but then my junior
year I figured, I mean, I'd I'dthrow myself out there.
I I mean I I like music, I likethe sounds of it, so so I
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auditioned and I made it intothe a cappella choir my junior
year.
And I mean, I enjoyed everyevery part of it.
I made lots of friends, and Ifeel like choir is a place where
you don't need the experienceyou need for instrument.
You can just hop in and you canjoin those harmonies, and it's a
unique experience, and I thinkyou can meet new people easily.
SPEAKER_03 (06:36):
It's a team effort, right?
You're not just I mean, you mayhave a solo here and there, or
you know, some of the smallerquartets or a trio if you're you
know competing, but in the endit's it's you and 20 or 30 other
people just making musictogether.
SPEAKER_08 (06:52):
My name's Kate Barnes.
I like when I was a reallylittle kid, I totally remember
making up songs and performingthem for my family and stuff.
And then when I was like 10,this like local theater, they
were having auditions for Josephand the amazing Technicolor
Dreamcoat.
And my family we like loved thatmusical.
And my mom was like, Do you wantto audition?
They want like kids in it.
And I was like, Yeah.
So then me and my sister didthat show, and that's kind of
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what got me into likeperforming.
SPEAKER_03 (07:15):
Joseph is a great place to start.
I feel like a lot of people gettheir start with Joseph, right?
Like they're either introducedto it with Donnie Marie, or
that's just the go-to show.
What was your have you seen thatversion?
SPEAKER_06 (07:27):
Have you seen the Donnie Osmo?
SPEAKER_03 (07:28):
Yeah, that was the one that we yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I did go a little deep on thatone.
I apologize.
I forget what age groups were.
That was my first experiencewith it.
VHS tape conversion.
Utah royalty right there.
Choir's fun, right?
You get those beautifulharmonies, especially I love a
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good, you know, minor key tightharmony for whatever reason that
just sings to me.
I'm getting a couple nods here,so think I'm not the only one.
It expresses so much, I mean,music in and of itself is just
such a unique experience.
Why do you, as students, feellike taking music as part of
your education is important?
SPEAKER_08 (08:13):
I don't know.
I just think it's like it's sucha unique way to like well
connect with other people.
And also it's just like it's socool to like because like
everyone can sing, right?
But like to really like likefine-tune everything and figure
out different like techniquesthat work for you when you're
like singing and stuff.
I don't know, it's just so cool.
And I and like when you sing allthese harmonies and stuff, like
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that feeling that you get oflike joy and like excitement is
just like something that likeyou can't really get anywhere
else.
SPEAKER_09 (08:42):
Yeah, I totally agree.
I feel like doing choir in highschool, you just build such a
good sense of community and likebeyond what you get in the
classroom, and also learning allthe sorts of music in class, you
get all this feedback and likelearning that you wouldn't get
outside of high school, and itreally really like jump starts
you to if you want to pursue itafter high school, and then you
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have the best time with all ofyour friends and your teachers,
and it's just a blast.
SPEAKER_04 (09:09):
Personally, in my high school experience so far,
I've found it such a relief tono matter like the stresses that
go on during high school orwhatever, I can always find
relief or that de-stressing inthe choir room, making chords
lock, just having a great time,but also just having the music
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to take me away from thestresses of life.
SPEAKER_03 (09:36):
Which I mean that's what we do in our cars, right?
Or in the shower.
You guys you guys make up songsat home.
Do you find yourself doing uhwarm-up runs when you're just
around and about?
SPEAKER_09 (09:46):
You'll definitely catch me doing like sirens
everywhere, especially beforeshows and concerts and things.
SPEAKER_03 (09:52):
Demonstrate a siren for those who don't know.
SPEAKER_09 (09:57):
It's just a very helpful warm-up, and I have to
stop myself sometimes.
SPEAKER_03 (10:02):
Just in the grocery store, you randomly hear a
sound.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I've been there.
I mean, you I love what you allare saying about that sense of
community, that sense of beingable to get away from some of
the things that may be causingstress or you know, just taking
that deep breath when you getinto choir, which I mean,
breathing is a big part of it.
unknown (10:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (10:24):
But there's also that bigger impact, right?
You're learning skills that youmay not even realize yet, you're
transferring to your otherclasses.
Mr.
Putnam, how are you seeingmusical lessons transform in
your students?
SPEAKER_06 (10:40):
Oh, it's a remarkable process to see.
And I love starting a new yearfresh, and you get, you know,
the new freshmen coming in, andthe choir sound is sort of
unmolded and unshaped.
And I think you all remember ourfirst concerts of the year and
then compare them to our lastconcerts of the year, you know,
and how much how much growththere is.
And like you said, it's it ismusical skills, but it goes
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beyond that, doesn't it?
It's those life lessons thateveryone needs to learn to be
successful.
It's how to how to stick withsomething, how to have
discipline, how to work wellwith others, how to take
instruction, how to problemsolve.
It's all of these skills thatare just gonna serve all of
these students so well in theirlives.
And not to downplay theeducation side of math or
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science or history, but I thinkthose skills can really shine
and acquire setting, and I lovethat.
SPEAKER_03 (11:31):
I mean, they impact each other.
There was a recent study by theAmerican Psychological
Association, you brought up mathand science.
Students who take music coursesactually score significantly
better on math and science examsthan their non-musical peers.
So it's just something that youmay not see outside of the
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auditorium, but then you seethese results and you go, oh,
maybe there is a little moresomething to this.
Do you feel as students thatyour time with in choir or with
taking any of the arts haschanged you as a student or as a
person?
SPEAKER_04 (12:06):
Um, personally, having been in choir for a
couple of years and getting alittle bit more into the theater
aspect, I've learned as aperforming arts student that a
lot of times my directors knowbest, and through that I can
learn better from them, and I'vebeen able to apply that to my
other classes where I can askquestions of my teachers because
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they know the curriculum and Ican learn it from them, and they
can be my sort of director inthose aspects of my learning.
SPEAKER_09 (12:36):
I feel like choir as a class in a community just
brings so much passion that likeyou may not have in any of your
other classes, but it likeencourages you to try and find
it in all of your othersubjects, whether you like them
or not, because you know howpassionate you can be with
certain things and how amazingit can be to learn and to grow,
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not just in choir.
SPEAKER_08 (12:59):
I think it also probably helps like what you
were talking about earlier,Adam, about like taking a break
from the other subjects that howchoir kind of gives you that.
It I don't know, maybe there's apart of that that kind of gives
us like a little bit of rest sothat we're more prepared the
next day.
But I also think that I'vereally seen like as I've grown
as like a performer and asinger, I've really seen how
like I've learned things aboutlike kind of trusting the
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process, about like figuring outdifferent like problem-solving
skills that help me with myvoice, but that can also be
applied to other classes.
SPEAKER_03 (13:27):
Yeah.
Learning to take direction frompeople.
I think a lot of people might,you know, if you hear, oh,
you're doing it wrong,regardless of how that's said in
your direction, then I'm notdoing it wrong.
Oh, okay, maybe I am, but youknow, even just being able to
adjust, and I think, like youguys have said, being able to
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match, you know, I mean, you'rematching pitch with how many
kids at the same time.
Just listening to others,whether they're your peers or
your directors, I think is sucha strong skill to be building at
such a young age.
We're now, we're not evenheading into the holiday season.
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We are in the holiday season, weare in the mix.
I'd love to know what you allare doing.
I know you have a lot ofconcerts going on, any special
events or things that you'relooking forward to or that
you've done.
SPEAKER_04 (14:19):
I'm in the Madrigal, our highest choir, and in a
cappella, our like first sort ofstep up audition choir.
And we started our holiday musiclike weeks ago.
And like before Halloween.
SPEAKER_06 (14:38):
Yeah, our first concert was early October, and
we were we were starting holidaystuff right after that.
So such is the life of being achoir student, isn't it?
If you want to be prepared, yougotta learn.
SPEAKER_04 (14:47):
Oh yeah.
But it just helps me feel theholiday spirit personally, and
it's just fun to start theholidays early on.
SPEAKER_09 (14:54):
It is so fun to like begin working on Christmas music
like the second week of October,and you're walking out of class
with like Christmas songs stuckin your head all day.
So that's really fun.
But one of the performances thatwe have in December is we have
the honor of performing in thetabernacle down at Temple Square
every year.
And it's such a cool experienceto look forward to.
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Like all this music that you'vepracticed and rehearsed in class
is now in an entirely differentspace, but it just has such a
magic to it.
And so that's one of my mostfavorite experiences in our
Christmas season.
SPEAKER_08 (15:29):
I love the tabernacle as well.
It's so fun.
It's so fun to like go downtownand be in that area, and it's so
like Christmasy and and you getto be with all your friends and
stuff.
But I also just love like all ofthe, especially like in
Magrigals, we have so manyperformances.
Like some of them are like afterschool, a lot of them are during
school, but it's just like sofun to be able to, you know,
perform together in so manydifferent places and singing fun
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Christmas songs that we alllove.
It's like the best.
SPEAKER_06 (15:52):
It it really is a wonderful experience.
We're we're visiting a coupleelementary schools in our in our
circuit.
We're performing at MountainJordan Middle at their holiday
choir concert, we're doing somesenior assisted living centers.
We've been invited to performfor the Corvette owners of Utah.
Okay, and the daughters of theUtah Pioneers.
And so there's all these groups,and so as a director, it's
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really fun uh as we as we getinto these months.
I just sort of keeping an eye onmy inbox.
SPEAKER_07 (16:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (16:17):
And these requests will come in and we try and line
up as many as we can because Iit's it's a busy schedule,
right?
Oh but busy in a good way andpretty fulfilling.
I I hope.
Yeah, I'm not paying you moneyto say that in the right.
I really do.
At the end of the season, I'dfeel exhausted, but it's that
really good, positive kind ofexhausted where I think there's
an impact that's made.
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And it's not just an impact onus, but it's the people that we
have the chance to perform to,especially in some of those
instances.
Some of my favorite performancesare at those assisted living
centers.
Yeah.
Yeah, having a chance to go in,and it's really becomes a little
more of an active service.
And I love that aspect of it somuch.
SPEAKER_03 (16:55):
And I imagine that sense of community is just like
you said, so fulfilling.
You just go home at the end ofthe day and you're exhausted,
but in that good way where youknow you're gonna get a good
night's sleep.
Yeah.
And you're going to Californiain the spring.
Yes.
What's the deal there?
SPEAKER_06 (17:11):
Yeah, I think that's one of the facets of a good,
healthy performing arts program.
And it's something we do reallywell at Jordan, is an
opportunity to do a yearly tour.
Now it's something the studentshave to opt into because it does
come at a cost.
Sure.
We do a fundraiser, we try andhelp it make it as easy as we
can on the students.
But every year we're taking it'sactually not just the choir.
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I think a cool thing we do atJordan is we go with the
orchestra and the band as well.
So it becomes a big jointeffort.
We try and do a sort of biggertour one year, and then the next
year we'll do a smaller one, andthen a bigger one, and a smaller
one.
So California is one of ourbigger years.
Two years ago we went toDisneyland, we went to Anaheim.
Last year we went to Boise.
This year we're going to SanDiego.
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And those tours, it's not aboutit, it is about having fun, but
that's not the only facet ofthis experience.
So we usually participate in anational music competition.
It's called the HeritageFestival.
Two years ago we did music inthe parks, but it's this
nationally recognized thing.
We got some trophies last timewe did this.
We're hoping to take sometrophies again.
Yeah.
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We try and see either aprofessional level musical or uh
symphony performance, or sothere's all these sort of goals
that Mr.
Wright and I, Mr.
Wright's the band and orchestrateacher at Jordan, all these
goals we're trying to cross offas we plan these tours.
But once again, I turning itback over to the students.
It becomes one of the most funevents of the year and one of
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the most fulfilling and awesomeevents of the year.
Would you have anything you'dwant to say about tours?
SPEAKER_04 (18:40):
I personally love the opportunity to not only
participate in thesecompetitions, but I get to have
the opportunity to connect withmy peers in another way.
And one of my favorite partsabout these tours is that
they're through bus, and so weget to sit on a bus for hours
and hours and talk and talk.
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And without the environment ofsinging, it just becomes a
different environment, and I getto connect with these people,
but then also compete withalongside of these talented
individuals.
SPEAKER_07 (19:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_09 (19:15):
The build-up to tour is like what, like five months?
Like after Christmas, we um westart prepping our festival
music, and it's like such a bigbuild-up, and you're saving up
money all year, but it's so soworth it.
And the buses are really fun,they don't let us sing on the
bus for good reason.
Um but it's that's not my rule,by the way.
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For the sake of others.
Um, but just like the memoriesyou make on those tours are like
they're priceless.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (19:47):
It's like there's like just so many experiences
that we would not get anywhereelse that we get to have, and
it's really, really fun.
SPEAKER_03 (19:54):
I had the opportunity to travel to
California with my choir acouple years in a row, and I
still remember.
A lot of the the events we gotto go to, but that even that
time just sitting for hours on abus and bonding with someone
that you maybe never would havemet to begin with had you not
both joined choir.
So it's very cool to hear thatyou are going to be able to
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experience that as well and thatyou've enjoyed your your journey
so far.
Before we get to the song, I'dlove to just ask each of you to
share what message would youlike to share about choir or
about music and education?
SPEAKER_04 (20:33):
Even if you don't have experience, just trying to
gain that experience in music,even if it's just for fun or
just for a little bit.
Gaining that experience andhaving that in your arsenal of,
oh yeah, I did choir that year,or oh yeah, I can play this
instrument even at a smalllevel.
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It just is a really funexperience, and you get to not
only say you did it, but you canhave that skill and expertise.
SPEAKER_09 (21:04):
My message would be that it's like a really fun
experience, and it's not justindividual, it's such a team
effort, and like the things thatyou get to build together are
incredible.
Like you cannot create thisbeautiful music or these
beautiful songs by yourself.
Like, sure, you can sing a solo,but the things that you can
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build together as a choir likeare unmatchable.
Like it can't reach it, youcan't replace it.
SPEAKER_08 (21:34):
I just think it's like a really unique thing to do
because like in a way, choir islike it's kind of it's easier to
join, maybe than starting aninstrument or like playing a
sport in some ways.
Because it's like everyone cansing and everyone sings like all
the time, most people at least.
But like the more you like getinto it, the more like little
things that you learn, and themore little things that you
hear, and like it's actuallylike really hard if you like
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there's like just once you learnmore about it, there's just so
many little things that it'slike it's hard to accomplish.
Like when you're singing alltogether, it's it can be really
challenging to all be able tosing like blending and on top of
the note and like not flat andlike with the same vowel shape
and with dynamics andeverything, and it's just like a
really, really cool experience.
And even if like you end updoing it and you don't like it,
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at least you did it, you know,and then you have that under
your belt, and it's just reallyreally fun.
SPEAKER_03 (22:23):
I'm impressed with the uh choir teacher speak on
top of the notes, you're notflat.
Same vowel sounds, we're makingthe O sound, not the ah sound.
It's drilled into our heads.
It is good.
That's what that means Mr.
Putnam's doing a good job.
I was nodding my head furiously.
SPEAKER_06 (22:42):
I was glad to hear all that.
SPEAKER_00 (22:43):
How about you?
I think music, you just get tomeet so many different people.
Like, so I've I've done MarchingMan for four years, and I feel
like the amount of people Imeet, because it's like the
whole it's sort of the wholedistrict, I do it with Alta, and
I learn people from CornerCanyon, it's my best friends
I've learned there.
And if I didn't do music inmiddle school and started this
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whole path, I wouldn't have metthem.
And like I feel like when I goto these random high schools, I
see people I know because I metthem at March Admit or like
music or whatever.
I just find friends fromanywhere.
I even like at the store, I justsee people I know.
SPEAKER_03 (23:19):
That's beautiful.
It's lovely to hear how you haveall taken not only these life
lessons, but the friendships,the memories, you're taking
those to heart.
You're you know taking fulladvantage of really just such a
fun thing to do.
Speaking of fun things for meand our audience, could we get
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you guys to sing us a song?
SPEAKER_09 (23:41):
Yes, yes, indeed.
That'd be so fun.
SPEAKER_06 (23:43):
We would love to.
Now, I just want to can Ipreface the song?
Maybe we want to sing for you.
Yeah.
Now, there was so many studentsI could have picked to come do
this, and all of them would havedone an amazing job.
This particular group ofstudents, I felt the honor was
well deserved.
This group of students competedat our Shakespeare competition
in October.
So it's another cool thing weget to do.
And this group competed in thesmallest music category.
(24:05):
It's called Troubadour.
You can only have five people init.
And I would say, out of all themusic events, it's it has, I
think, the most entries.
If you look at the schedule ofevents, most the most schools
sort of put entries in this forthe music side of the
competition.
SPEAKER_03 (24:21):
I think it's a big event for the entire
competition.
It is.
SPEAKER_06 (24:24):
And this particular group of students this year took
first place, beating out everyother school in this particular
category.
Oh, absolutely.
And we were all so proud ofthem.
They worked their tails off forthis particular song.
So we're gonna present it.
This isn't a holiday one.
I hope that's okay.
Oh, audience listening inDecember.
This is just a little vocalsnippet from the piece that they
(24:46):
sang for the competition.
What we're missing is auto harpplayed by Adam, recorders played
by Titus and Johnny, tromboneplayed by Johnny.
SPEAKER_03 (24:56):
Wow.
SPEAKER_06 (24:56):
Hand drum played by Kate and Evelyn.
So we did this amazing thingwhere we did some instrument
instruments and singing.
And I just want on the recordthat I'm really proud of these
students for the work and whatthey did.
So that's what we'd like toshare with you is just a little
snippet of a Renaissance songcalled Martin Said to His Man.
SPEAKER_05 (25:15):
Oh, Martin said, Man, who safely.
(25:40):
I see her.
I see her chase March Mel, Mel.
(26:07):
Marching such as the food.
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