February 13, 2025 • 50 mins
In this episode, I’m joined by my former business coach, Marnie LeFevre, Founder and CEO of Fempire. Together, we explore how intuition can transform your business and personal growth.
Over the four years Marnie coached me, she helped me trust my inner guidance to make aligned business decisions. In this conversation, we share:
- How entrepreneurs can use intuition to navigate challenges
- Personal stories of intuitive successes and setbacks
- Practical exercises to strengthen your intuitive wisdom
Plus, stick around for a live channeling session with my guide, Anya, offering insights and guidance for your spiritual and business journey.
Check out Fempire’s coaching programs at: www.fempire.com.au
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 – Introduction & Guest Announcement
01:21 – The Importance of Intuition in Business
05:07 – Intuition vs. Fear in Decision Making
10:34 – Personal Stories of Intuition in Action
16:18 – Balancing Intuition & Logic in Business
24:11 – Practical Exercises for Tapping Into Intuition
38:32 – Messages from Anya
45:37 – Final Thoughts & Upcoming Events
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(02:21):
Welcome back to Connecting toSpirit.
I'm your host, Lisa Brandis, andtoday I have a very special
guest for you.
I'm sitting down with someonewho has been a huge part of my
personal and business journey,my former business coach, Marnie
Lefevre.
We worked together for aboutfour years.
And during that time, Iexperienced incredible growth,
(02:44):
but also some tough lessons,which comes with owning a
business.
Through it all, I learned somuch, but one of the main things
is to trust my intuition inbusiness.
And today we're going to diveinto how you can do the same.
If you've ever wondered how tomake aligned decisions, how to
listen to your inner guidanceand Bring more spiritual wisdom
(03:07):
to your work.
This episode is for you and staytuned until the end because
we're going to be doingsomething very special.
I'll be bringing through a livechanneling from Anya to share
some guidance about what wespeak about today.
So let's dive in.
Marnie, welcome to the podcast.
It so special to have you heretoday,
Marnie Lefevre (03:27):
It's an absolute, absolute gift.
Lisa Brandis (03:30):
Well, let's get started with this.
You've worked with so manybusiness owners, including me,
and you really emphasize therole of intuition in business.
Why do you think intuition issuch an important skill for
entrepreneurs?
That's a great question.
I think we just need torecognize that it's 11, 11 a.
m.
right now.
(03:50):
Oh, that's so cool.
It is too.
So we should stop and thank theangels and what do you do as a
process for that?
I just notice, I just noticethat I'm always surrounded by
guides and intuition and all thejust those really rich things
that I think give you anotherlevel to your life, to business,
(04:13):
to Feeling confident that allthe decisions you make and all
the, all the things that happento you and for you, aren't just
on you, I guess would be mylittle piece of wisdom there.
But, the question you asked ismaybe repeat the question.
Question was, you got distractedby the 1111.
(04:37):
For me, I always just use it asa time to just stop and get into
the present moment.
Because sometimes I think we'reso much up in the illogical
brain.
So I love it just to get intothe heart and get connected
again.
So I think it's important tosometimes to stop and breathe,
which we can do right now andget connected.
And also, also to notice whatyou're doing right then to see
if it is that A little bit of asign saying, yeah, this is what
(04:58):
you should be doing, or you needto stop for a moment.
Or watch the thoughts you'rethinking.
Pay attention, yeah.
Definitely.
So the question that I asked is,why do you think intuition is
such an important skill forentrepreneurs?
Okay, so, Interestingly, whenyou first started coaching with
Middle Ace, you, you were rightinto intuition, right?
Of course, that was yourbusiness.
(05:18):
But, you know, we come intobusiness and we say, well, no,
that needs to be parked becausebusiness is all about
productivity, accountability,uh, create, create, create.
The thing that makes business.
And makes business fun andensures that you're probably
(05:40):
more successful is thatintuitive piece.
Why would you even start abusiness?
you might start a business basedon an idea.
That's an intuitive impulse,that idea, right?
And so I think intuition alwaysneeds to come first, that
intuitive impulse.
(06:00):
Then you bring through theplanning, the scheduling, the
productivity, all the thingsthat you need to make that
intuitive impulse happen.
But also during business, Ithink, When something doesn't
feel right and you would havehad this a lot of, I know you've
had this a lot of times, when itdoesn't feel right, it, it's not
(06:23):
right.
And there's a reason.
Yeah.
And quite often the logical mindgets in the way, especially if
there's a decision that perhapsyou're afraid of.
So I know for me, a lot ofworking with you was having that
courage to, to you know, to stepout.
I know when I first startedspeaking on stage, it was, the
intuition was guiding me.
There was that nudge from spiritkind of, but the, the lack of
(06:46):
confidence was there.
So sometimes structure, yeah,there was structure.
That's not on the intuitiveside.
That's more on the, okay, onceyou've had that guidance from
spirit, that intuitive impulse,that, that feeling, that deep
gut feeling, whatever you wantto call it, then you need the
structure and you need theknowledge.
And all the things behind thatto then, you know, take action
(07:09):
on your impulse.
Yeah, yeah, very true.
If your intuition is telling youto take action, of course, if
it's telling you not to takeaction, then that's the same
thing too.
Okay.
Is, is a lot of people say,yeah, but you know, I've had
intuition and it's taken me downthe wrong path.
Yeah.
Right.
We've been there.
Or we blame intuition when infact it was just a lesson, I
think, where brainwashed intobelieving that all intuitive,
(07:32):
actions or intuition is supposedto be positive, but I think.
We, a lot of it too, is yes,you're supposed to trust your
intuition, absolutely, but wedon't see the bigger picture.
So we take this, so I might havein the past, I've taken
intuitive, I've seen a businessand a business idea, and I've
had that intuitive impulse andthe people that have needed to
(07:55):
show up, start showing up and Igo, okay, this is meant to be,
and it is meant to be, and itmight not work out the way I
thought it would work out in theend, or the way I imagined it
to, or would have liked it to,or planned it to, um, but I got
a lot of lessons and I, and Idon't, don't see those lessons
until maybe one or two yearsdown the track.
(08:16):
And it's like, oh, okay, well,I'm so glad I have this
knowledge that I got throughthat smaller fail or that kind
of fail, or that, nothing's afail, that journey, because now
I get why.
I needed to know that.
I needed to do that.
The change.
I know a lot of the work that wedid together.
(08:36):
Um, and You know, from on apersonal level as well was also
about, uh, doing the work, youknow, on releasing those
sabotaging patterns andprograms.
Um, how does intuition do youthink factor in making that
journey easier from yourperspective?
Doing the work?
(08:56):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just releasing the blocks, thesub, you know, the subconscious
blocks that keep us smallperhaps if we're speaking on
stage.
So how do you use intuition tomake that journey easier?
Well, I think first you have toget really comfortable with
understanding what an intuitivemessage is and what a, actual
(09:18):
fear is.
So it, you know, it could beintuition.
It could be, Just limiting thelength of something that's
trying to protect you, keep yousafe, how do we get around it?
We do things like your businessoffers, which is we connect in,
learn how to connect and get adeeper, trust in, Intuitive
messages, trust in quieting themind, trust in, and a great way
(09:41):
to do that, to be honest, forme, in the past was Reiki, you
know, getting into that quietspace through energy, running
energy, other people do itthrough meditation, or whatever
your practice is going for awalk and just trying to clear
your mind of thoughts and thatintuitive impulse will be that
first impulse.
It is, isn't it?
And then quite often it's themind that comes in after, that
(10:03):
second guesses that initialimpulse to do something is
usually the one that drops infrom spirit or drops in from
that broader perspective.
I had an experience yesterdaywith, in a hypnosis session I
was in and she said to me,imagine what it would look like
if you were doing what you lovewithout the money involved.
Back to that passion piece, youknow, you're just doing what you
(10:26):
love.
And I instantly had a vision ofchanneling and a big audience in
front and it felt right for like30 seconds.
Then straight away it's like mymind came in, this critter brain
came in.
I was deep in hypnosis and Iliterally like have different
parts of my body cross overwhere I don't know left from
right and I get this really deepgo in deep and then I literally
(10:49):
saw like all these like datalike just filtering down through
my inner vision and then I cameright out of hypnosis and said
oh my god it was the weirdestthing, it was almost like I was
energetically cancelling out thething I was wanting seconds
after and seeing it drop in fromspirit going, well, you can
totally have this.
Your logical mind.
Oh my God.
And it was so interesting.
(11:10):
And I could feel, you know, it'slike that passion about how
often do we cancel out thepassion through fear or wanting
to stay small?
Yeah.
Well, okay.
Like you said, the critter mindor the reptilian brains there,
it's only job is to protect youand ensure you survive.
And so if it's something that'scompletely out of your comfort
zone, of course, intuition isCome out here and play outside
(11:33):
of this comfort zone and you'relike, what your reptilian brain
is going to go.
I don't think so.
Here's all the things that couldhappen to you.
Yeah.
And we want to stay safe.
And especially as women.
Public speaking is tough.
Especially as women.
Yeah.
We are conditioned deeply.
I mean, I don't have businesslike Fempire.
So I see it all the time.
So we, are conditioned to.
(11:55):
stay safe.
It's a deep thing.
It's like, you know, putting thekeys between your fingers when
you walk through a car park.
And I do share with my beautifulmale friends that this is just
something we, it's just alwayson our minds when we walk to the
car, whereas it's not on theirmind.
you know, we're wired to keepourselves safe.
We all are men and women, but Ithink for women it's greater.
(12:18):
I believe, and through all thestudies that I've done, women's
intuition helps to keep yousafe.
Oh, absolutely.
If you lean into it, it doesactually help to keep you safe
as well as, um, it's when we getoutside of our comfort zones
that We bring in all thatprotection, I think, as well.
So that's sort of a slightlyleft of field from intuitive
(12:39):
impulse, but yeah.
We should probably get back tothat in business though, right?
Yeah.
What's your next question?
So, um, have you got a storywhere, you know, you can reflect
with the listeners, a time whenyou either trusted your
intuition and it worked outreally well for you, or were you
Went against that intuitiveknowing and paid the price of,
(13:03):
you know, perhaps, yeah, notlistening and not taking action.
Because I think it's one thingto get an intuitive insight.
It's one thing to knowsomething, even if we don't
logically understand why.
And quite often that's whatintuition is it's, non rational
at times and just an energeticor a feeling or something
doesn't feel right, but I can'tunderstand why.
So yeah, curious if you can,Remember a time when it either
(13:27):
served you or didn't?
I've been working with intuitionfor a really long time, so I
would say it's, it's alwaysserved me, even when perhaps the
results haven't been what I hadwanted, but probably even just
using it more to your advantage.
So I've learned over the yearsthat using intuition to your
(13:48):
advantage is a really goodthing.
So I remember I was constantly,this is to do with you so it's
relevant, constantly.
Doesn't have to be a story thatincludes me.
No, well this is the one that'spopped into my head.
Okay.
I was constantly being, harassedby spirit or intuition or
whatever you want to call it, tostudy Reiki.
You know this story, right?
(14:09):
To study Reiki.
And I was like, Oh, and I was sobusy, we were touring Australia,
we're doing speaking gigs toentrepreneurs for, you know,
200, 500 people, whatever, womenactually.
And I just, I had no time.
I was just like, my big responsewas I have, I don't have time
for this.
I don't have time for this.
And it just kept popping in,popping in, popping in.
And I was like, Oh, this iswhere, so initially, of course,
(14:31):
resisting intuition, I'm toobusy, I'm too overwhelmed, I've
got too much to do already.
And then eventually, I justremember throwing my hands up,
the proverbial hands up in theair and just going, All right,
if you want me to study Reiki,then send me the Reiki master
because I am not looking.
I'm not going to Google searchone.
I am not looking for one.
(14:53):
And I think it was that day thatmy client.
She was like, I've just done aReiki course with this great Ma.
And I was just like, Oh, Yousaid, Thank you Universe for
making it so easy.
I went, Mother, Mother of.
Fine.
Now I've gotta learn reiki.
(15:14):
Now we went fine.
And then I think, did I emailyou or No, I came to Secrets in
the Garden.
Oh, see where you were speaking?
I still didn't, literally, theuniverse delivered me right in
front of her.
Oh yeah.
And then I said, oh, I lovedyour talk.
And then you're like, ah.
And I introduced you.
Anyway, and then, well, I didsay, I did say, listen, I'm not
acting unless you literallydeliver her to, or him or
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whoever to me.
I sit in front row, literallyanother great.
a business related one.
So that was to do with, I guess,personal growth.
But then I brought that Reikiand the energy healing into
accelerating my intuition andall the things.
And then we brought it intobusiness more and that was
really great.
So it did work.
And Lisa ended up being a clientfor four years.
(15:55):
So there you go.
So we were interviewing for.
Events managers for a businessassistant in the business.
And, we had all these girls inthere and my husband was in
there interviewing as well.
And these, a couple of girlscame through and Grace was
fabulous on paper.
She'd done what we were doingwith tours and stuff before she
(16:16):
was experienced.
She had a great resume.
She was bubbly, lovely girl.
So, and then there was anothergirl, Emily.
And we interviewed Emily, weinterviewed Grace, we, we
interviewed some other girls andI knew they weren't the right
one.
And I remember leaving thatmeeting and saying to my
husband, it's Emily, Emily's whowe need to hire.
(16:38):
And he went, Grace is better.
This is the masculine versus thefeminine, right?
Grace has more experience.
Grace, you know, I think Graceis the one.
I said, but I just didn't, Ifeel intuitively that it's, It's
Emily.
Anyway, what I do, I listen tothe logic.
(17:00):
I listen to logic.
You know, I can't blame him, butI listened to it because I was
the one that listened.
And probably, lost my confidencea little, whatever, because I
didn't have that second.
Grace started and she prettymuch cried the entire week she
worked for us because she knewintuitively this wasn't the best
move for her.
(17:20):
Nothing to do with the business.
We'd bought her tickets.
We'd invested in all that.
We were training her.
But she was in tears all thetime.
And then I ended up taking thatweek to coach her through a
powerful decision for her.
And so she decided to leave.
And then I rang the recruiterback and I said, listen, we're
going to start this.
She goes, well, listen, Emilyseemed really keen.
(17:41):
Did you want to just see ifshe's still available?
And I was like, yeah, that'd begreat.
Anyway, Emily, we ended uphiring Emily and she was a
superstar.
She was no experience.
But she was an absolute rockstar and we, Very passionate.
And just a great addition to theteam.
So, it's not always, that'swhere intuition in business can
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be really powerful.
Really powerful.
So, you know, really listen tothat.
gut feeling or whatever you wantto call it.
It's funny.
Intuition is very feminine wordand men use gut.
Your gut feeling, whatever itis.
Your gut is, we have, we haveneurons in our gut.
It does talk to us and that'swhere you'll get a lot of your
(18:23):
really great wisdom.
So yeah, there's a business.
Perfect.
I love it.
It's good to be able to relateto, you know, from both sides, I
think for me, it was theunderstanding that even though I
was a spiritual teacher and hadthe practice and the therapy all
done, I wasn't a business woman.
And I think the biggestconnection between you and I was
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that there was a synergy andit's hard to pinpoint.
I think someone said to me youalways did the bigger picture
vision.
And then would help me tostructure.
So there was a lot of that leftbrain structure that I got from
coaching with you, but there wasan, and I still can't even put a
finger on what it is.
Maybe you can help, but therewas a resonance between you and
I, as to the ideas that wouldcome in.
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And I do think it's because wewere connected.
And had an energetic connection,but there was also a direct
connection to spirit.
So when the ideas would drop inand you would suggest for me to
do something like perhaps expandmy workshops, even though I'd
have the resistance, there was apart of me that knew it was what
I wanted.
And so the intuition and theconnection that made for that
(19:30):
successful journey, I think issomething worth speaking of.
So that was from my perspectivewas, because if someone's
coaching you and they're givingyou suggestions and it doesn't
resonate and you don't want todo it, that's a totally
different feeling to why I thinkwe experienced so much success
there was that.
Encouragement and courage thatcame from your bigger vision,
(19:51):
seeing things that perhaps Ididn't believe I could achieve,
but it was in alignment withwhat I wanted to do.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Again, the whole intuition andserendipity.
I mean, you know, uh, spirit oryour guides or God or whatever
you believe in, doesn't deliver.
When you operate from a place ofintuition.
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and from centered guidance, thenyou will be put together with
the person that can help you.
Like one of our coaches, andhere's just a basic intuition
thing that we use every day.
And again, women are great atthis.
The, um, one of my coaches, soFEMBA has a business coach
program.
And one of our coaches justsaid, told me that yesterday in,
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um, in our office hours that,um, she had been sitting next to
a woman at networking and thewoman turned to her and said
that after she spoke, she saidthat she was going to engage
with a male business coach.
And she said there just wassomething that didn't, didn't
sit and it didn't sit and shedidn't know why, because this
guy was experienced.
And I'm sorry, he's fabulous atwhat he does, but she was just
(21:00):
like, it just, I don't knowwhat, what, what it was.
There was a resistance.
There was a, there's that, thatresistance, right?
Just something doesn't feelright.
You can't.
Put your finger on it.
You have to work out whetherit's coming from fear or whether
it's coming from an intuition,which is, that's the biggest
question.
That is the biggest question Iget is how do we know the
difference?
Yeah.
So, well, maybe we can sharethat.
(21:21):
Come back to that next.
So, um, and then she said, shesat down next to this woman and
the woman said within 10minutes, she knew that that was,
she was the coach that shewanted and she went on to then
engage her So again, it's that.
It was the same with us rightback in the beginning.
Yeah, there was just a feelingand a knowing.
Well if you wait.
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So I knew if I said to theuniverse, look, deliver whoever
is supposed to teach me Reikibecause I haven't got time to go
look and I don't want to.
Whatever the thing was.
And so I Obviously it wassomething that really needed to
happen.
So then Lisa just showed.
I think along the way, there'sbeen a synergy between us where
(22:01):
there's been, um, like, where Ithink we've both gotten benefit
out of not only you as a coach,I'm putting words in your mouth,
but, um, from the experience of,of being coached, also we had a
channeling experience, which wasoutside of the coaching
arrangement, but, served us aswell.
We didn't know in the verybeginning, was it though?
Was it outside the coaching?
(22:22):
It was giving Lisa theconfidence to step in.
It wasn't in the, it wasn't, itwasn't essentially part of the
coaching program really.
It was done after hours and itwas a No, but again, I would
suggest it was on intuitive.
Oh, it was definitely intuitiveguidance.
And then that led to And on funwe It led to big changes.
And I think I remember initiallyit was just like, well, we don't
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know where we're going withthis.
We had an experience that, I'veshared in another video.
You can go and find where wetalk about how you first dropped
into channeling your guideChristian.
And then we decided from thatpoint, well, that was cool.
That was interesting.
How about we just do it again?
Let's just follow the joy, whichto me is following that path of
intuition.
We get breadcrumbs from spirit.
We get insights and ideas thatpop in and that when it's in
(23:08):
resonance to me, there's afeeling of excitement, a leaning
into a fun, even though theremay be nervousness about it
because perhaps it's a change orit's something we haven't done
before.
There's, there's, Yeah, thatfamiliar fear feeling that we're
doing the right thing.
And then also sometimes you justhave to go with curiosity and
have the experience and if it'senjoyable, then we'll keep doing
(23:31):
it.
And I think we set out in thebeginning with that.
It was like, well, let's justsee how it goes.
We had no idea how long we'd bedoing that.
We met every week for, I thinkit was about 12 months from
memory.
And, yeah, it turned out to be.
Just like you said, initially,we thought it was teaching you
how to channel and giving youthat experience as well as me
developing and getting moreconfidence.
(23:51):
But then in the end, it wasreally, yeah, about, that
practice of channeling to beable to, Bring it, you know,
into the world, which for you tofind the confidence to bring
your gift.
Teach it because you'd alreadytold it to me.
Yeah, absolutely working out howyou could make it the most
powerful so, I'd like to leavethe listeners with a we haven't
oh there was a question too.
(24:12):
How do you know when it's fear?
How do you know the differencebetween?
Whether it's actually on yourpath.
Okay.
You go first.
You share what you do.
For me, I check in with a head,heart and gut.
So if I'm making a decision, Iwill obviously go in with what
is my thought?
What do I rationally think aboutthis?
If it's a choice or a decision,then I'll go with, what is my
(24:34):
heart telling me?
And then I'll go, what's my gutfeeling?
And I'll do like a, just aninternal checking with my body.
Does it feel expansive or, orlike a contraction?
So for me, I feel if.
If something's not right for me,I'll feel Like I'm pulling away
and going in and caving yet whenit's something that is right for
me, but perhaps I'm just nervousabout it or I don't know how to
(24:56):
do it, it'll, it'll feelexpansive.
And quite often there's thisline that we teeter between of,
of feeling afraid of the thingwe're supposed to expand into
because we've never done it.
We're always on that kind ofsitting on the edge.
And for me, the most.
Just rewarding things have comefrom stepping in and leaning
(25:17):
into the fear and doing itanyway and taking the action.
And to be absolutely honest,sometimes I don't know with
clarity until I've had theexperience.
I just, I'm like, I don't knowif this is right.
I don't fully understand whetherit's just an idea coming from my
head or whether it's intuitive.
And I think we all kind of wantthis 100 percent guarantee when
(25:37):
we're going to step into a newspace that it's going to be
right and it's going to be goodand it's going to work.
But the truth is we don't, andwe can't get that.
And even as someone that's been,you know, spiritual teacher and
working with it for most of mylife, intuition, it doesn't give
us a crystal ball on the answersbecause we're co creating with
spirit.
We haven't had the experienceyet.
So, and a lot of the, probablythe biggest lessons and the
(26:01):
biggest, insights that I'vegotten have come from the
biggest challenges.
You know, and so we wouldn'twalk in.
Yeah, we wouldn't walk into themknowingly.
I'm like, if I knew that wasgoing to happen, I wouldn't have
gone there, but that's likestarting a business.
Oh yeah.
Who knew that was such apersonal journey?
So many entrepreneurs will say,Oh God, if I'd known what it
took, I never would have begun.
(26:22):
Okay.
So mine is a little bit,probably more practical because
you are so, enveloped andadvanced in your feeling, like
you can feel.
Everything processes through myfeeling, yeah.
So you really know your body andyou know the different signs and
that takes years of practice forsome people.
Some people it's just like this,but others it takes lots of
practice.
(26:42):
One exercise is the bodypendulum.
So that is if you don't know,let's say something simple, like
you don't know if you should beworking with one person or
another person.
So you write their names down onsomething and then you hold that
thing.
If your body's leaning forward,like towards it, like a
pendulum, then that's hopefullyintuitively try to keep in a
(27:04):
meditative state without.
Any knowing that you don't haveto take any action at all.
So that can sometimes help youto feel more authentic in what
happens.
Because if you can blank yourmind and just master your state
and keep it neutral, then you'regoing to get a better reading.
(27:24):
If you have ideas on what youwant, you're going to influence
that body pendulum, but you justhold it.
Maybe it's vitamins, you'rewondering if you should take
these vitamins, you hold it inyour hand and if you lean
towards it, then it's likely thebest intuitive.
Your body knows a lot and itknows how to communicate with
you, the things with you.
So, but if you're leaning away abit like Lisa's expansive or
(27:46):
retracting, same thing, not abit like, but same thing.
If your body is literallyleaning away, then it is, it's
not for you to try the and thenjust maybe sit with it for a
bit.
If what I do know, if you keepasking, wanting the answer to be
something different.
It's just going to getconfusing.
I don't know how many timeswe've picked up like an angel
(28:08):
card deck.
You may have had thisexperience, you've shuffled it
and you put out your card andyou go, Oh, not that one and put
it back in because it literallyis telling you something you
don't want to know or you don'twant to hear.
And sometimes that is, it'salways the human aspect that
gets in the way of the spiritualmessage, which is usually pure
and clear.
And then it's, it's ourresistance or our, yeah, fight
against it.
And the beauty is withspirituality is we have the
(28:29):
choice.
We don't have to do anything.
I've, my guides have beentelling me coffee is not good
for my body for years, but Istill have coffee every day.
Cause guess what?
I choose to override that veryclear, intuitive gut.
And even though my body ishaving resistance to it now, I
have.
You know, brought it back to onecup a day, but I still have the
(28:50):
choice, you know, and, and, butI do suffer the consequences of
the actions that I take.
Sometimes you won't get thatabsolute proof.
So the other day, another thingis for some people who can
remember their dreams or payattention to your dreams.
I get a lot of intuitiveguidance through dreams.
You've got to find your lane andwork with it.
It's all about, like I said,starting an energy healing
(29:12):
practice or a meditationpractice or, paying attention to
have a dream book next to yourbed, whatever it is.
that helps you to get moreconnected to your intuition.
A great story for me that justhappened the other day was I was
dreaming or whatever.
Honestly, I can't remember thedream.
But when I woke up, this wordcalcium was screamed into my
head.
And that's when your mind's mostswitched off, right?
(29:34):
In that first waking.
Yeah.
Now, I didn't run out that dayand buy calcium for my bones,
but it did.
I thought about it for a moment.
Well, you know, I'mperimenopausal and it's likely
that I don't drink any more.
So I don't, I was sort of askingwhat health things did my body
(29:55):
need and that just screamed atme.
So a couple of days later, Iwent and bought.
Calcium supplements.
Now, am I ever going to getsolid proof that that particular
decision helped my long termwhatever?
Maybe not, because a number offactors could play into that,
(30:15):
but I just have to trust theguidance.
Isn't it like the million smallthings that I think being aware
and awakened to your intuitionjust creates, an easier ebb and
flow in life.
That's my personal opinion.
We can be totally logical and wecan just operate out of, what we
know and almost there's acontrolling element to life when
(30:37):
we live that way versusspirituality is, the right
brain, which is creative and.
Impulsive and sometimes, yeah,it's a little messy, but I, I
just, cause it's exactly rightthat I remember having that
thought once, like when I get anintuitive thought of just turn
right or take a different way.
And I now, Act on it, especiallywhen there's no reason not to,
(30:58):
like when it's like, well, I cango left or right, it doesn't,
it's not going to change myjourney that much to just trust
that, that impulse.
And then quite often, I don'teven question why or where, but
we don't know what we savedourselves from because we took
that instinct and went with itrather than, you know, the car
accident we may have savedourselves from.
There's, you know, you'll getsometimes get that, that instant
(31:21):
gratification, which is theperfect.
Parking spot.
Or the places actually.
Not where you thought it was,it's where your spirit told you
it was, or your intuition toldyou it was, or whatever, your
guidance, your guidance told youit was, and I think life gets
really interesting when youstart to move out of just that
responsive, kind of, when itjust lands.
(31:41):
Intuitively versus co creatingmore opportunities to be
intuitive, to set aside time toask and directly connect with
intuition with your questions,asking for that internal
guidance.
And I think that's a reallypowerful shift.
And I know it certainly helpedme with business decisions and
just getting more clear on whatI want before I take action.
(32:03):
Once you develop that trust inyour intuition, it makes life
flow a lot more.
I mean, I was really stuck inwhat I was supposed to be
pricing some programs for.
Just super stuck, had no idea.
We were, there were new programsand yes.
You can go out and you do theresearch and you test the market
and this, that and the other.
Yeah.
but we didn't have the testingcapability for this particular
(32:24):
thing.
So I literally relied onintuition, which was I pulled
out a pendulum and I had priceslaid out and I asked yes, no
questions to get what thoseprices might be.
Yeah.
And honestly, they were lowerthan I would ever have.
picked initially.
(32:44):
Yeah.
And, it worked out really well.
Yeah.
It worked out really well.
And then we increased themlater, which I know to do in
business, you know, when youstart this and then whatever.
So some people might say, butthat's just based on your, past
what, you know, to be true fromthe past.
But sometimes we forget that.
(33:04):
So our intuition or subconsciousor whatever you want to call it
will come through.
And yes, help us from past lifeexperiences, but also help us
from information we don't knowto be true.
So there's a bit of acombination in there.
And then there's that trust Ihad to trust that even though it
said the prices that I wasn'tcompletely happy with.
(33:26):
Yeah.
It was, I still took the actionand trusted the guidance.
So there's that sometimes thingseasier for you.
You're like, okay, it's anexperiment.
It's almost like you just go,well, I'm going to experiment,
see how it feels and try it outand test it and have the
experience.
You let the need to be right goand you kind of, you don't
outsource it, but you, um, youstart to just trust and trust
(33:50):
the journey.
Cause I trusted that it could bethe wrong decision too, but I
was willing to just.
try guidance because I wasstuck.
Well, I wanted to come up with aquick exercise that the
listeners can do.
So I thought what we'd do iswe'd, show you how easy it is to
tap into that intuition.
So let's do it together.
(34:10):
So first of all, just close youreyes.
If you're not driving, obviouslyjust listen.
If you are, close your eyes andjust take a nice big, deep
breath in.
So breathing in.
And breathing out and justreally let your body relax and
just be present in the moment.
(34:30):
And now I want you to set anintention for this next segment
of your life.
So wherever it is that you are,whatever it is that you're
doing, just think about thenext, even if it's just the next
half an hour, just the nextsegment in your life.
Set an intention for what you'dlike to experience or how you'd
like to feel.
(34:52):
And just opening to receivingmessages from your intuition or
from your higher power or fromthe universe, whatever you want
to call it, God, if thatresonates.
And in your mind, just ask thequestion, what word do I need to
hear today?
So ask the question in your mindand then just wait for the
answer to be received.
(35:16):
And don't force it, just stayopen and allow the first word
that pops into your mind to comethrough.
So, I actually got more thanone.
So, and it's interesting, isn'tit?
What was your word?
Did you get one word?
Marnie Lefevre (35:30):
Yellow.
You got yellow.
Lisa Brandis (35:32):
Okay.
So what does that, when youthink of the word yellow, what
does that mean for you or isthere any particular meaning
around that?
Marnie Lefevre (35:41):
It doesn't, but I kind of set the challenge.
I guess I took.
your words and took it as, if Ihear the word yellow, then
whatever I'd been thinking ofpreviously that might be my next
steps, then that's correct.
It's like when you say, well, Idon't believe in any of this
show me, you just keep seeing awhite feather or a speckled
feather, one that you wouldperhaps never think of.
(36:03):
And then suddenly you find itand you're like, okay, so there
is, So, and quite often we canthen take that word.
So my, I got two words.
The first word I got wasconnection and then I got
confidence and then I got peace.
I got three words.
So connection, confidence, andpeace.
I'm an overachiever.
I did set out this exercisemyself for one word.
So with that word yellow, if wejust take a moment, I like to
(36:26):
kind of.
digest our intuitive messagesand find meaning for them for
ourselves.
So the, the exercise was moneyfor you to look at the next half
an hour.
And so with the word yellow,what meaning do you think you
can draw from it?
That would be like a messagefrom love or spirit or
intuition.
(36:46):
The meaning for you, well, themeaning is to progress on a
business idea.
I've been chewing on So yellowis like a green light, or is it
positivity, or is it a It's the,it's like, yeah, you're on the
right path.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like seeing that whenyou're, thinking of something
and seeing your double numbers.
Or when you're, oh, okay, well,yeah, okay, I'm on the right
(37:06):
path.
Or seeing a particular Messagefrom spirit somehow, but I don't
know.
I kind of kept it loose and itwas just yellow was just so
random.
I was like, okay, well, we'llsee what happens with that.
And I tell you what, I willcheck back in with Lisa at some
point.
Yeah, let us know if anythingmanifests.
Yeah.
And it can be helpful to shareit with a friend as well.
(37:27):
Sometimes we can't always getclear and it can be helpful to
get a reading or to share itwith a friend.
Oh, what does yellow mean toyou?
See, there you go.
I was wondering if you weregoing to ask.
If you don't outsource yourintuition, but, it can be
helpful because someone might beable to share a different
perspective you might not haveconsidered.
So to me, yellow represents asun.
So I think of the color yellow,I associate it with the sun.
(37:47):
And to me, I also think of.
To me Sun equals joyful play.
So the image and the essencethat I'm getting right now is
like a little child runningaround just in freedom and in
play.
So that's what I feel when Iconnect in with you now and
respond to that message.
So, and likewise, you know, tome, confidence, peace.
(38:08):
When I thought of the next halfan hour, I want to feel
peaceful.
I love that.
I felt like to me, confidencewas representing how I actually
was feeling in this experiencewith you today.
So, I didn't feel it initially,but then as we started talking,
I just settled into confident.
And I think that comes from theexperiences that we've had and
shared over time.
(38:29):
My confidence in my business andmy intuition and my decisions
has definitely grown.
Peace, confidence, and what wasthe other word I had?
Peace, confidence.
Oh, it's gone.
Maybe I'll have to put Can youremember it?
No.
Not me neither.
Peace, confidence, it'll come tome in a minute or it won't.
(38:50):
Anyway, so I'd love to know whatyour word was.
So pop it in, in the chat and,yeah, share with us what you
got, but most importantly, whatdoes it mean to you?
So, Drawing meaning from themessages that you receive can be
fun.
And just, just for the sake ofplay.
I have a, an odd question, whichI thought I'd throw in just for
fun.
Cause that was also on myagenda.
(39:11):
Um, if you could have anyone.
Alive or that has passed, playyou in a movie, who would you
choose?
She doesn't know about thisquestion.
Who would you choose to playyou?
I know who I think you, I knowwho I think I'd choose for you.
One of the minions.
Who would I, oh God, that'sreally putting me in a spot.
(39:32):
A spot.
Kate Blanchett.
She's cool.
Love Kate Blanchett.
Yeah.
She's amazing.
Who would you put?
I would have thought farrahFawcett.
Oh yeah.
It was right.
Farrah Fawcett.
Yeah.
I used to get that a lot in mytwenties.
Cause of the hair.
Beautiful hair.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not unhappy.
I'd be Sandra Bullock, ofcourse.
Love Sandra Bullock.
(39:53):
So.
Yeah, I think, I think it's niceto, oh, that's right.
We did promise at the end thatwe'd bring through Anya and, and
do a bit of a message.
Do you want to channelChristian?
Nope.
I knew you'd say that.
I thought I'd ask.
Be rude not to ask.
Okay.
So I'll just bring through amessage and we'll see what Anya
has to say about what we've beendiscussing today.
(40:15):
Maybe she can remember thatthird word that I can't.
Anya (40:18):
Ah yes, yes, yes, we are here, we are here.
We are very interested inhearing the definitions of how
you can connect with us and yourintuition and your intuitive
knowing and also how that canallow you to make, clearer
decisions in business, but alsowe like to reflect upon how not
(40:38):
only can it serve you in thebusiness aspect, but also in
everyday life.
It is about leaning into avibration and a frequency of
unconditional love.
That is what we are here torepresent.
Firstly, and most importantly,for yourself as an avenue and a
pathway for you to connect intoa feeling of coming home, a
(41:03):
feeling of knowing that you weresupported, knowing that you are
loved, knowing that you areencouraged in all of the
endeavors you wish to pursue.
experience in this life.
We don't come with an agenda.
We come with partly an agenda toconnect for those of you like
Lisa who have chosen long beforethis incarnation to allow us to
(41:29):
express through and with her inorder to bring intuitive
messages through to humanity toraise the collective vibration,
we want to remind you that itstarts with you.
Our purpose first and foremostis to help you to align to what
it is that gifts you with afeeling of presence, a feeling
(41:51):
of connection, which was thatthird word that Lisa could not
recall, because it is importantto not only Feel that connection
with the vibration of love thatis here to support you.
But also most importantly, andthe part that we love reflecting
on and experiencing with andthrough you is the connection
(42:12):
that you have with each other.
Nothing is more important thanopening your heart.
It's sharing invulnerability andit is through as Lisa and Marnie
have both experienced throughthe greatest challenges and
triumphs that the most beautifulconnections have been formed.
Some which last a short timewhilst working together and as
(42:33):
in this case is proven to gobeyond into friendship which has
been rewarding certainly fromour perspective to witness and
also through we know the way inwhich Lisa resonates and feels.
We want to offer you anopportunity, Marty, while we are
here together once more, ifthere is anything that you would
like to ask us today.
(42:56):
I'd just be really happy with apowerful message about 2025 and
my journey through it.
Yes, your journey is aboutmoving with grace back into flow
and back into starting to bringabout the new way in which
you're going to be operating andsharing your gifts with the
world.
There has been a process and atime of reflection, which has
(43:18):
been important as lots ofdifferent components of your
business have been some retired.
Some change shape and form andothers starting to be born from
the gifts that have come throughthe challenges you've
experienced.
So we cannot see into the futureas to what it is that you will
create.
However, we do wish toacknowledge the heart with which
(43:42):
you operate in the passion foryou to see great leadership.
Be encouraged with those withwhom you connect with and coach
and know that anything that youput your energy, your time, your
attention, your heart, yourpassion, and your dedication
towards can only thrive.
(44:04):
And we look forward towitnessing and seeing you.
Those expressions being birthedthrough you, through your
connection with your ownguidance, through your
intuition, but most importantly,through what you feel the world
needs at this time, and we dofeel there's growth within, uh,
(44:25):
empowering female leaders tostep forth, and we feel that
there is lots to come from you,and look forward to seeing you
start to grow.
Come out of come out of theshadows.
Yes, and start to be seen startto express if that resonates and
(44:47):
feels right for you.
We look forward to theexperience of it.
Beautiful.
And message for you all is toplay well, enjoy life and Be
gentle and kind with yourselves,the softening in the mind,
softening into the expectationsthat you hold upon yourself and
(45:11):
allow yourself to, feel intothose intuitive insights, even
when, as with Lisa, has recentlyexperienced a feeling of doing
too much, having too much on andthen arguing with the fact that
she felt overwhelmed, when infact it was simply because her
life had become overwhelming.
And it is also acknowledgingthose difficult emotions are
(45:32):
usually there as a message aswell.
Intuition isn't just aboutfeeling and hearing and
experiencing and expressingpositive messages.
Sometimes it comes through,anxiety and stress, and that can
be intuitive also.
We also acknowledge the veryhuman aspect of your experience.
(45:54):
And to summarize, when Lisa justsimply understood that the
overwhelm came because she has alot on her plate, she was able
to make different choices andstart to learn how to say no to
some of the things that weretaking time, even though she
wanted to do them.
Yes.
So short period, Trust in thatfeeling, trust in that was the
(46:15):
gut bringing up a discomfort fora reason.
Yes.
And we hope that sharing Lisa'spersonal stories, which she
loves us to do so much, helpsyou to unpack and understand
your bodies and your emotions.
And your natural responses towhat's going on in your life
experience.
(46:36):
Ah, we have enjoyed thisencounter and look forward to
many more.
Namaste.
Oh man, she speaks almostwithout breath.
And it just flows.
I could see and sense what shewas, seeing from you.
But I feel like she was holdingback a little bit.
Because we're in a publicexperience here as well.
(46:58):
So what you're saying is, Ireally wanted to kick my arse,
but she wasn't going to do it ina public forum.
Okay.
No, she's too gentle for that.
I think, I think it's justencouraging you, you know, to
follow your passion and do whatfeels right.
And there's no guarantees isthat, you know, we kind of just
step in and give it a go.
Just do one.
Whatever it is, just do one andsee how it goes.
(47:21):
I hope you, yeah, it has, it'sbeen fun and I hope you enjoyed
this experience.
Thank you so much for spendingyour time with us today.
I don't take it for granted.
I certainly know, and I knowMarnie, you understand this too,
that time is so precious.
So I just want to say from thebottom of my heart, thank you
for it.
(47:41):
You know, for being here, sharethis episode.
If you have a friend or a familymember that you think would
benefit from understanding moreabout their intuition,
especially their intuition inbusiness.
And Marnie, is there any newcourses that you have or new
experiences that you'd like toshare?
No, not at the moment.
So, but what we do have comingup is a retreat in May for
(48:05):
speaking with confidentconfidence.
So learning how to speak fromstage and sell from stage.
The difference is that we workon it with you.
I work on it, it's not just acourse where you sit there, take
notes, yadda yadda.
It's really, really, reallyhands on.
So it's very different to mostspeaker courses that you'll do.
So how could you not have?
Fun.
And the second is, if you wantto become a business coach, if
(48:27):
you have that background incorporate or in running your own
business, but you want theframework and the curriculum,
then head over to Fempire and,check out the business coach
program and we'll get youcertified so that you can step
into becoming a business coachwith courage, assuming you're a
woman, because it's all tailoredtowards women stepping into
(48:50):
business coaching, becausethere's not enough women out
there doing it.
And your website address sothose can jump in.
Fempire.
com.
au Perfect.
We'll pop the links in the shownotes.
So until next time, trustyourself, listen to your inner
wisdom and keep shining yourlight and we will see you soon.
Thanks again, Marnie.
You're welcome.
Okay.
Bye.
It's been a pleasure.
Welcome back to Connecting toSpirit.
I'm your host, Lisa Brandis, andtoday I have a very special
guest for you.
I'm sitting down with someonewho has been a huge part of my
personal and business journey,my former business coach, Marnie
Lefevre.
We worked together for aboutfour years.
And during that time, Iexperienced incredible growth,
(02:44):
but also some tough lessons,which comes with owning a
business.
Through it all, I learned somuch, but one of the main things
is to trust my intuition inbusiness.
And today we're going to diveinto how you can do the same.
If you've ever wondered how tomake aligned decisions, how to
listen to your inner guidanceand Bring more spiritual wisdom
(03:07):
to your work.
This episode is for you and staytuned until the end because
we're going to be doingsomething very special.
I'll be bringing through a livechanneling from Anya to share
some guidance about what wespeak about today.
So let's dive in.
Marnie, welcome to the podcast.
It so special to have you heretoday,
Marnie Lefevre (03:27):
It's an absolute, absolute gift.
Lisa Brandis (03:30):
Well, let's get started with this.
You've worked with so manybusiness owners, including me,
and you really emphasize therole of intuition in business.
Why do you think intuition issuch an important skill for
entrepreneurs?
That's a great question.
I think we just need torecognize that it's 11, 11 a.
m.
right now.
(03:50):
Oh, that's so cool.
It is too.
So we should stop and thank theangels and what do you do as a
process for that?
I just notice, I just noticethat I'm always surrounded by
guides and intuition and all thejust those really rich things
that I think give you anotherlevel to your life, to business,
(04:13):
to Feeling confident that allthe decisions you make and all
the, all the things that happento you and for you, aren't just
on you, I guess would be mylittle piece of wisdom there.
But, the question you asked ismaybe repeat the question.
Question was, you got distractedby the 1111.
(04:37):
For me, I always just use it asa time to just stop and get into
the present moment.
Because sometimes I think we'reso much up in the illogical
brain.
So I love it just to get intothe heart and get connected
again.
So I think it's important tosometimes to stop and breathe,
which we can do right now andget connected.
And also, also to notice whatyou're doing right then to see
if it is that A little bit of asign saying, yeah, this is what
(04:58):
you should be doing, or you needto stop for a moment.
Or watch the thoughts you'rethinking.
Pay attention, yeah.
Definitely.
So the question that I asked is,why do you think intuition is
such an important skill forentrepreneurs?
Okay, so, Interestingly, whenyou first started coaching with
Middle Ace, you, you were rightinto intuition, right?
Of course, that was yourbusiness.
(05:18):
But, you know, we come intobusiness and we say, well, no,
that needs to be parked becausebusiness is all about
productivity, accountability,uh, create, create, create.
The thing that makes business.
And makes business fun andensures that you're probably
(05:40):
more successful is thatintuitive piece.
Why would you even start abusiness?
you might start a business basedon an idea.
That's an intuitive impulse,that idea, right?
And so I think intuition alwaysneeds to come first, that
intuitive impulse.
(06:00):
Then you bring through theplanning, the scheduling, the
productivity, all the thingsthat you need to make that
intuitive impulse happen.
But also during business, Ithink, When something doesn't
feel right and you would havehad this a lot of, I know you've
had this a lot of times, when itdoesn't feel right, it, it's not
(06:23):
right.
And there's a reason.
Yeah.
And quite often the logical mindgets in the way, especially if
there's a decision that perhapsyou're afraid of.
So I know for me, a lot ofworking with you was having that
courage to, to you know, to stepout.
I know when I first startedspeaking on stage, it was, the
intuition was guiding me.
There was that nudge from spiritkind of, but the, the lack of
(06:46):
confidence was there.
So sometimes structure, yeah,there was structure.
That's not on the intuitiveside.
That's more on the, okay, onceyou've had that guidance from
spirit, that intuitive impulse,that, that feeling, that deep
gut feeling, whatever you wantto call it, then you need the
structure and you need theknowledge.
And all the things behind thatto then, you know, take action
(07:09):
on your impulse.
Yeah, yeah, very true.
If your intuition is telling youto take action, of course, if
it's telling you not to takeaction, then that's the same
thing too.
Okay.
Is, is a lot of people say,yeah, but you know, I've had
intuition and it's taken me downthe wrong path.
Yeah.
Right.
We've been there.
Or we blame intuition when infact it was just a lesson, I
think, where brainwashed intobelieving that all intuitive,
(07:32):
actions or intuition is supposedto be positive, but I think.
We, a lot of it too, is yes,you're supposed to trust your
intuition, absolutely, but wedon't see the bigger picture.
So we take this, so I might havein the past, I've taken
intuitive, I've seen a businessand a business idea, and I've
had that intuitive impulse andthe people that have needed to
(07:55):
show up, start showing up and Igo, okay, this is meant to be,
and it is meant to be, and itmight not work out the way I
thought it would work out in theend, or the way I imagined it
to, or would have liked it to,or planned it to, um, but I got
a lot of lessons and I, and Idon't, don't see those lessons
until maybe one or two yearsdown the track.
(08:16):
And it's like, oh, okay, well,I'm so glad I have this
knowledge that I got throughthat smaller fail or that kind
of fail, or that, nothing's afail, that journey, because now
I get why.
I needed to know that.
I needed to do that.
The change.
I know a lot of the work that wedid together.
(08:36):
Um, and You know, from on apersonal level as well was also
about, uh, doing the work, youknow, on releasing those
sabotaging patterns andprograms.
Um, how does intuition do youthink factor in making that
journey easier from yourperspective?
Doing the work?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Just releasing the blocks, thesub, you know, the subconscious
blocks that keep us smallperhaps if we're speaking on
stage.
So how do you use intuition tomake that journey easier?
Well, I think first you have toget really comfortable with
understanding what an intuitivemessage is and what a, actual
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fear is.
So it, you know, it could beintuition.
It could be, Just limiting thelength of something that's
trying to protect you, keep yousafe, how do we get around it?
We do things like your businessoffers, which is we connect in,
learn how to connect and get adeeper, trust in, Intuitive
messages, trust in quieting themind, trust in, and a great way
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to do that, to be honest, forme, in the past was Reiki, you
know, getting into that quietspace through energy, running
energy, other people do itthrough meditation, or whatever
your practice is going for awalk and just trying to clear
your mind of thoughts and thatintuitive impulse will be that
first impulse.
It is, isn't it?
And then quite often it's themind that comes in after, that
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second guesses that initialimpulse to do something is
usually the one that drops infrom spirit or drops in from
that broader perspective.
I had an experience yesterdaywith, in a hypnosis session I
was in and she said to me,imagine what it would look like
if you were doing what you lovewithout the money involved.
Back to that passion piece, youknow, you're just doing what you
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love.
And I instantly had a vision ofchanneling and a big audience in
front and it felt right for like30 seconds.
Then straight away it's like mymind came in, this critter brain
came in.
I was deep in hypnosis and Iliterally like have different
parts of my body cross overwhere I don't know left from
right and I get this really deepgo in deep and then I literally
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saw like all these like datalike just filtering down through
my inner vision and then I cameright out of hypnosis and said
oh my god it was the weirdestthing, it was almost like I was
energetically cancelling out thething I was wanting seconds
after and seeing it drop in fromspirit going, well, you can
totally have this.
Your logical mind.
Oh my God.
And it was so interesting.
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And I could feel, you know, it'slike that passion about how
often do we cancel out thepassion through fear or wanting
to stay small?
Yeah.
Well, okay.
Like you said, the critter mindor the reptilian brains there,
it's only job is to protect youand ensure you survive.
And so if it's something that'scompletely out of your comfort
zone, of course, intuition isCome out here and play outside
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of this comfort zone and you'relike, what your reptilian brain
is going to go.
I don't think so.
Here's all the things that couldhappen to you.
Yeah.
And we want to stay safe.
And especially as women.
Public speaking is tough.
Especially as women.
Yeah.
We are conditioned deeply.
I mean, I don't have businesslike Fempire.
So I see it all the time.
So we, are conditioned to.
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stay safe.
It's a deep thing.
It's like, you know, putting thekeys between your fingers when
you walk through a car park.
And I do share with my beautifulmale friends that this is just
something we, it's just alwayson our minds when we walk to the
car, whereas it's not on theirmind.
you know, we're wired to keepourselves safe.
We all are men and women, but Ithink for women it's greater.
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I believe, and through all thestudies that I've done, women's
intuition helps to keep yousafe.
Oh, absolutely.
If you lean into it, it doesactually help to keep you safe
as well as, um, it's when we getoutside of our comfort zones
that We bring in all thatprotection, I think, as well.
So that's sort of a slightlyleft of field from intuitive
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impulse, but yeah.
We should probably get back tothat in business though, right?
Yeah.
What's your next question?
So, um, have you got a storywhere, you know, you can reflect
with the listeners, a time whenyou either trusted your
intuition and it worked outreally well for you, or were you
Went against that intuitiveknowing and paid the price of,
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you know, perhaps, yeah, notlistening and not taking action.
Because I think it's one thingto get an intuitive insight.
It's one thing to knowsomething, even if we don't
logically understand why.
And quite often that's whatintuition is it's, non rational
at times and just an energeticor a feeling or something
doesn't feel right, but I can'tunderstand why.
So yeah, curious if you can,Remember a time when it either
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served you or didn't?
I've been working with intuitionfor a really long time, so I
would say it's, it's alwaysserved me, even when perhaps the
results haven't been what I hadwanted, but probably even just
using it more to your advantage.
So I've learned over the yearsthat using intuition to your
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advantage is a really goodthing.
So I remember I was constantly,this is to do with you so it's
relevant, constantly.
Doesn't have to be a story thatincludes me.
No, well this is the one that'spopped into my head.
Okay.
I was constantly being, harassedby spirit or intuition or
whatever you want to call it, tostudy Reiki.
You know this story, right?
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To study Reiki.
And I was like, Oh, and I was sobusy, we were touring Australia,
we're doing speaking gigs toentrepreneurs for, you know,
200, 500 people, whatever, womenactually.
And I just, I had no time.
I was just like, my big responsewas I have, I don't have time
for this.
I don't have time for this.
And it just kept popping in,popping in, popping in.
And I was like, Oh, this iswhere, so initially, of course,
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resisting intuition, I'm toobusy, I'm too overwhelmed, I've
got too much to do already.
And then eventually, I justremember throwing my hands up,
the proverbial hands up in theair and just going, All right,
if you want me to study Reiki,then send me the Reiki master
because I am not looking.
I'm not going to Google searchone.
I am not looking for one.
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And I think it was that day thatmy client.
She was like, I've just done aReiki course with this great Ma.
And I was just like, Oh, Yousaid, Thank you Universe for
making it so easy.
I went, Mother, Mother of.
Fine.
Now I've gotta learn reiki.
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Now we went fine.
And then I think, did I emailyou or No, I came to Secrets in
the Garden.
Oh, see where you were speaking?
I still didn't, literally, theuniverse delivered me right in
front of her.
Oh yeah.
And then I said, oh, I lovedyour talk.
And then you're like, ah.
And I introduced you.
Anyway, and then, well, I didsay, I did say, listen, I'm not
acting unless you literallydeliver her to, or him or
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whoever to me.
I sit in front row, literallyanother great.
a business related one.
So that was to do with, I guess,personal growth.
But then I brought that Reikiand the energy healing into
accelerating my intuition andall the things.
And then we brought it intobusiness more and that was
really great.
So it did work.
And Lisa ended up being a clientfor four years.
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So there you go.
So we were interviewing for.
Events managers for a businessassistant in the business.
And, we had all these girls inthere and my husband was in
there interviewing as well.
And these, a couple of girlscame through and Grace was
fabulous on paper.
She'd done what we were doingwith tours and stuff before she
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was experienced.
She had a great resume.
She was bubbly, lovely girl.
So, and then there was anothergirl, Emily.
And we interviewed Emily, weinterviewed Grace, we, we
interviewed some other girls andI knew they weren't the right
one.
And I remember leaving thatmeeting and saying to my
husband, it's Emily, Emily's whowe need to hire.
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And he went, Grace is better.
This is the masculine versus thefeminine, right?
Grace has more experience.
Grace, you know, I think Graceis the one.
I said, but I just didn't, Ifeel intuitively that it's, It's
Emily.
Anyway, what I do, I listen tothe logic.
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I listen to logic.
You know, I can't blame him, butI listened to it because I was
the one that listened.
And probably, lost my confidencea little, whatever, because I
didn't have that second.
Grace started and she prettymuch cried the entire week she
worked for us because she knewintuitively this wasn't the best
move for her.
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Nothing to do with the business.
We'd bought her tickets.
We'd invested in all that.
We were training her.
But she was in tears all thetime.
And then I ended up taking thatweek to coach her through a
powerful decision for her.
And so she decided to leave.
And then I rang the recruiterback and I said, listen, we're
going to start this.
She goes, well, listen, Emilyseemed really keen.
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Did you want to just see ifshe's still available?
And I was like, yeah, that'd begreat.
Anyway, Emily, we ended uphiring Emily and she was a
superstar.
She was no experience.
But she was an absolute rockstar and we, Very passionate.
And just a great addition to theteam.
So, it's not always, that'swhere intuition in business can
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be really powerful.
Really powerful.
So, you know, really listen tothat.
gut feeling or whatever you wantto call it.
It's funny.
Intuition is very feminine wordand men use gut.
Your gut feeling, whatever itis.
Your gut is, we have, we haveneurons in our gut.
It does talk to us and that'swhere you'll get a lot of your
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really great wisdom.
So yeah, there's a business.
Perfect.
I love it.
It's good to be able to relateto, you know, from both sides, I
think for me, it was theunderstanding that even though I
was a spiritual teacher and hadthe practice and the therapy all
done, I wasn't a business woman.
And I think the biggestconnection between you and I was
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that there was a synergy andit's hard to pinpoint.
I think someone said to me youalways did the bigger picture
vision.
And then would help me tostructure.
So there was a lot of that leftbrain structure that I got from
coaching with you, but there wasan, and I still can't even put a
finger on what it is.
Maybe you can help, but therewas a resonance between you and
I, as to the ideas that wouldcome in.
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And I do think it's because wewere connected.
And had an energetic connection,but there was also a direct
connection to spirit.
So when the ideas would drop inand you would suggest for me to
do something like perhaps expandmy workshops, even though I'd
have the resistance, there was apart of me that knew it was what
I wanted.
And so the intuition and theconnection that made for that
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successful journey, I think issomething worth speaking of.
So that was from my perspectivewas, because if someone's
coaching you and they're givingyou suggestions and it doesn't
resonate and you don't want todo it, that's a totally
different feeling to why I thinkwe experienced so much success
there was that.
Encouragement and courage thatcame from your bigger vision,
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seeing things that perhaps Ididn't believe I could achieve,
but it was in alignment withwhat I wanted to do.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Again, the whole intuition andserendipity.
I mean, you know, uh, spirit oryour guides or God or whatever
you believe in, doesn't deliver.
When you operate from a place ofintuition.
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and from centered guidance, thenyou will be put together with
the person that can help you.
Like one of our coaches, andhere's just a basic intuition
thing that we use every day.
And again, women are great atthis.
The, um, one of my coaches, soFEMBA has a business coach
program.
And one of our coaches justsaid, told me that yesterday in,
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um, in our office hours that,um, she had been sitting next to
a woman at networking and thewoman turned to her and said
that after she spoke, she saidthat she was going to engage
with a male business coach.
And she said there just wassomething that didn't, didn't
sit and it didn't sit and shedidn't know why, because this
guy was experienced.
And I'm sorry, he's fabulous atwhat he does, but she was just
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like, it just, I don't knowwhat, what, what it was.
There was a resistance.
There was a, there's that, thatresistance, right?
Just something doesn't feelright.
You can't.
Put your finger on it.
You have to work out whetherit's coming from fear or whether
it's coming from an intuition,which is, that's the biggest
question.
That is the biggest question Iget is how do we know the
difference?
Yeah.
So, well, maybe we can sharethat.
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Come back to that next.
So, um, and then she said, shesat down next to this woman and
the woman said within 10minutes, she knew that that was,
she was the coach that shewanted and she went on to then
engage her So again, it's that.
It was the same with us rightback in the beginning.
Yeah, there was just a feelingand a knowing.
Well if you wait.
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So I knew if I said to theuniverse, look, deliver whoever
is supposed to teach me Reikibecause I haven't got time to go
look and I don't want to.
Whatever the thing was.
And so I Obviously it wassomething that really needed to
happen.
So then Lisa just showed.
I think along the way, there'sbeen a synergy between us where
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there's been, um, like, where Ithink we've both gotten benefit
out of not only you as a coach,I'm putting words in your mouth,
but, um, from the experience of,of being coached, also we had a
channeling experience, which wasoutside of the coaching
arrangement, but, served us aswell.
We didn't know in the verybeginning, was it though?
Was it outside the coaching?
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It was giving Lisa theconfidence to step in.
It wasn't in the, it wasn't, itwasn't essentially part of the
coaching program really.
It was done after hours and itwas a No, but again, I would
suggest it was on intuitive.
Oh, it was definitely intuitiveguidance.
And then that led to And on funwe It led to big changes.
And I think I remember initiallyit was just like, well, we don't
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know where we're going withthis.
We had an experience that, I'veshared in another video.
You can go and find where wetalk about how you first dropped
into channeling your guideChristian.
And then we decided from thatpoint, well, that was cool.
That was interesting.
How about we just do it again?
Let's just follow the joy, whichto me is following that path of
intuition.
We get breadcrumbs from spirit.
We get insights and ideas thatpop in and that when it's in
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resonance to me, there's afeeling of excitement, a leaning
into a fun, even though theremay be nervousness about it
because perhaps it's a change orit's something we haven't done
before.
There's, there's, Yeah, thatfamiliar fear feeling that we're
doing the right thing.
And then also sometimes you justhave to go with curiosity and
have the experience and if it'senjoyable, then we'll keep doing
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it.
And I think we set out in thebeginning with that.
It was like, well, let's justsee how it goes.
We had no idea how long we'd bedoing that.
We met every week for, I thinkit was about 12 months from
memory.
And, yeah, it turned out to be.
Just like you said, initially,we thought it was teaching you
how to channel and giving youthat experience as well as me
developing and getting moreconfidence.
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But then in the end, it wasreally, yeah, about, that
practice of channeling to beable to, Bring it, you know,
into the world, which for you tofind the confidence to bring
your gift.
Teach it because you'd alreadytold it to me.
Yeah, absolutely working out howyou could make it the most
powerful so, I'd like to leavethe listeners with a we haven't
oh there was a question too.
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How do you know when it's fear?
How do you know the differencebetween?
Whether it's actually on yourpath.
Okay.
You go first.
You share what you do.
For me, I check in with a head,heart and gut.
So if I'm making a decision, Iwill obviously go in with what
is my thought?
What do I rationally think aboutthis?
If it's a choice or a decision,then I'll go with, what is my
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heart telling me?
And then I'll go, what's my gutfeeling?
And I'll do like a, just aninternal checking with my body.
Does it feel expansive or, orlike a contraction?
So for me, I feel if.
If something's not right for me,I'll feel Like I'm pulling away
and going in and caving yet whenit's something that is right for
me, but perhaps I'm just nervousabout it or I don't know how to
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do it, it'll, it'll feelexpansive.
And quite often there's thisline that we teeter between of,
of feeling afraid of the thingwe're supposed to expand into
because we've never done it.
We're always on that kind ofsitting on the edge.
And for me, the most.
Just rewarding things have comefrom stepping in and leaning
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into the fear and doing itanyway and taking the action.
And to be absolutely honest,sometimes I don't know with
clarity until I've had theexperience.
I just, I'm like, I don't knowif this is right.
I don't fully understand whetherit's just an idea coming from my
head or whether it's intuitive.
And I think we all kind of wantthis 100 percent guarantee when
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we're going to step into a newspace that it's going to be
right and it's going to be goodand it's going to work.
But the truth is we don't, andwe can't get that.
And even as someone that's been,you know, spiritual teacher and
working with it for most of mylife, intuition, it doesn't give
us a crystal ball on the answersbecause we're co creating with
spirit.
We haven't had the experienceyet.
So, and a lot of the, probablythe biggest lessons and the
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biggest, insights that I'vegotten have come from the
biggest challenges.
You know, and so we wouldn'twalk in.
Yeah, we wouldn't walk into themknowingly.
I'm like, if I knew that wasgoing to happen, I wouldn't have
gone there, but that's likestarting a business.
Oh yeah.
Who knew that was such apersonal journey?
So many entrepreneurs will say,Oh God, if I'd known what it
took, I never would have begun.
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Okay.
So mine is a little bit,probably more practical because
you are so, enveloped andadvanced in your feeling, like
you can feel.
Everything processes through myfeeling, yeah.
So you really know your body andyou know the different signs and
that takes years of practice forsome people.
Some people it's just like this,but others it takes lots of
practice.
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One exercise is the bodypendulum.
So that is if you don't know,let's say something simple, like
you don't know if you should beworking with one person or
another person.
So you write their names down onsomething and then you hold that
thing.
If your body's leaning forward,like towards it, like a
pendulum, then that's hopefullyintuitively try to keep in a
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meditative state without.
Any knowing that you don't haveto take any action at all.
So that can sometimes help youto feel more authentic in what
happens.
Because if you can blank yourmind and just master your state
and keep it neutral, then you'regoing to get a better reading.
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If you have ideas on what youwant, you're going to influence
that body pendulum, but you justhold it.
Maybe it's vitamins, you'rewondering if you should take
these vitamins, you hold it inyour hand and if you lean
towards it, then it's likely thebest intuitive.
Your body knows a lot and itknows how to communicate with
you, the things with you.
So, but if you're leaning away abit like Lisa's expansive or
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retracting, same thing, not abit like, but same thing.
If your body is literallyleaning away, then it is, it's
not for you to try the and thenjust maybe sit with it for a
bit.
If what I do know, if you keepasking, wanting the answer to be
something different.
It's just going to getconfusing.
I don't know how many timeswe've picked up like an angel
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card deck.
You may have had thisexperience, you've shuffled it
and you put out your card andyou go, Oh, not that one and put
it back in because it literallyis telling you something you
don't want to know or you don'twant to hear.
And sometimes that is, it'salways the human aspect that
gets in the way of the spiritualmessage, which is usually pure
and clear.
And then it's, it's ourresistance or our, yeah, fight
against it.
And the beauty is withspirituality is we have the
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choice.
We don't have to do anything.
I've, my guides have beentelling me coffee is not good
for my body for years, but Istill have coffee every day.
Cause guess what?
I choose to override that veryclear, intuitive gut.
And even though my body ishaving resistance to it now, I
have.
You know, brought it back to onecup a day, but I still have the
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choice, you know, and, and, butI do suffer the consequences of
the actions that I take.
Sometimes you won't get thatabsolute proof.
So the other day, another thingis for some people who can
remember their dreams or payattention to your dreams.
I get a lot of intuitiveguidance through dreams.
You've got to find your lane andwork with it.
It's all about, like I said,starting an energy healing
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practice or a meditationpractice or, paying attention to
have a dream book next to yourbed, whatever it is.
that helps you to get moreconnected to your intuition.
A great story for me that justhappened the other day was I was
dreaming or whatever.
Honestly, I can't remember thedream.
But when I woke up, this wordcalcium was screamed into my
head.
And that's when your mind's mostswitched off, right?
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In that first waking.
Yeah.
Now, I didn't run out that dayand buy calcium for my bones,
but it did.
I thought about it for a moment.
Well, you know, I'mperimenopausal and it's likely
that I don't drink any more.
So I don't, I was sort of askingwhat health things did my body
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need and that just screamed atme.
So a couple of days later, Iwent and bought.
Calcium supplements.
Now, am I ever going to getsolid proof that that particular
decision helped my long termwhatever?
Maybe not, because a number offactors could play into that,
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but I just have to trust theguidance.
Isn't it like the million smallthings that I think being aware
and awakened to your intuitionjust creates, an easier ebb and
flow in life.
That's my personal opinion.
We can be totally logical and wecan just operate out of, what we
know and almost there's acontrolling element to life when
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we live that way versusspirituality is, the right
brain, which is creative and.
Impulsive and sometimes, yeah,it's a little messy, but I, I
just, cause it's exactly rightthat I remember having that
thought once, like when I get anintuitive thought of just turn
right or take a different way.
And I now, Act on it, especiallywhen there's no reason not to,
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like when it's like, well, I cango left or right, it doesn't,
it's not going to change myjourney that much to just trust
that, that impulse.
And then quite often, I don'teven question why or where, but
we don't know what we savedourselves from because we took
that instinct and went with itrather than, you know, the car
accident we may have savedourselves from.
There's, you know, you'll getsometimes get that, that instant
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gratification, which is theperfect.
Parking spot.
Or the places actually.
Not where you thought it was,it's where your spirit told you
it was, or your intuition toldyou it was, or whatever, your
guidance, your guidance told youit was, and I think life gets
really interesting when youstart to move out of just that
responsive, kind of, when itjust lands.
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Intuitively versus co creatingmore opportunities to be
intuitive, to set aside time toask and directly connect with
intuition with your questions,asking for that internal
guidance.
And I think that's a reallypowerful shift.
And I know it certainly helpedme with business decisions and
just getting more clear on whatI want before I take action.
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Once you develop that trust inyour intuition, it makes life
flow a lot more.
I mean, I was really stuck inwhat I was supposed to be
pricing some programs for.
Just super stuck, had no idea.
We were, there were new programsand yes.
You can go out and you do theresearch and you test the market
and this, that and the other.
Yeah.
but we didn't have the testingcapability for this particular
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thing.
So I literally relied onintuition, which was I pulled
out a pendulum and I had priceslaid out and I asked yes, no
questions to get what thoseprices might be.
Yeah.
And honestly, they were lowerthan I would ever have.
picked initially.
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Yeah.
And, it worked out really well.
Yeah.
It worked out really well.
And then we increased themlater, which I know to do in
business, you know, when youstart this and then whatever.
So some people might say, butthat's just based on your, past
what, you know, to be true fromthe past.
But sometimes we forget that.
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So our intuition or subconsciousor whatever you want to call it
will come through.
And yes, help us from past lifeexperiences, but also help us
from information we don't knowto be true.
So there's a bit of acombination in there.
And then there's that trust Ihad to trust that even though it
said the prices that I wasn'tcompletely happy with.
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Yeah.
It was, I still took the actionand trusted the guidance.
So there's that sometimes thingseasier for you.
You're like, okay, it's anexperiment.
It's almost like you just go,well, I'm going to experiment,
see how it feels and try it outand test it and have the
experience.
You let the need to be right goand you kind of, you don't
outsource it, but you, um, youstart to just trust and trust
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the journey.
Cause I trusted that it could bethe wrong decision too, but I
was willing to just.
try guidance because I wasstuck.
Well, I wanted to come up with aquick exercise that the
listeners can do.
So I thought what we'd do iswe'd, show you how easy it is to
tap into that intuition.
So let's do it together.
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So first of all, just close youreyes.
If you're not driving, obviouslyjust listen.
If you are, close your eyes andjust take a nice big, deep
breath in.
So breathing in.
And breathing out and justreally let your body relax and
just be present in the moment.
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And now I want you to set anintention for this next segment
of your life.
So wherever it is that you are,whatever it is that you're
doing, just think about thenext, even if it's just the next
half an hour, just the nextsegment in your life.
Set an intention for what you'dlike to experience or how you'd
like to feel.
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And just opening to receivingmessages from your intuition or
from your higher power or fromthe universe, whatever you want
to call it, God, if thatresonates.
And in your mind, just ask thequestion, what word do I need to
hear today?
So ask the question in your mindand then just wait for the
answer to be received.
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And don't force it, just stayopen and allow the first word
that pops into your mind to comethrough.
So, I actually got more thanone.
So, and it's interesting, isn'tit?
What was your word?
Did you get one word?
Marnie Lefevre (35:30):
Yellow.
You got yellow.
Lisa Brandis (35:32):
Okay.
So what does that, when youthink of the word yellow, what
does that mean for you or isthere any particular meaning
around that?
Marnie Lefevre (35:41):
It doesn't, but I kind of set the challenge.
I guess I took.
your words and took it as, if Ihear the word yellow, then
whatever I'd been thinking ofpreviously that might be my next
steps, then that's correct.
It's like when you say, well, Idon't believe in any of this
show me, you just keep seeing awhite feather or a speckled
feather, one that you wouldperhaps never think of.
(36:03):
And then suddenly you find itand you're like, okay, so there
is, So, and quite often we canthen take that word.
So my, I got two words.
The first word I got wasconnection and then I got
confidence and then I got peace.
I got three words.
So connection, confidence, andpeace.
I'm an overachiever.
I did set out this exercisemyself for one word.
So with that word yellow, if wejust take a moment, I like to
(36:26):
kind of.
digest our intuitive messagesand find meaning for them for
ourselves.
So the, the exercise was moneyfor you to look at the next half
an hour.
And so with the word yellow,what meaning do you think you
can draw from it?
That would be like a messagefrom love or spirit or
intuition.
(36:46):
The meaning for you, well, themeaning is to progress on a
business idea.
I've been chewing on So yellowis like a green light, or is it
positivity, or is it a It's the,it's like, yeah, you're on the
right path.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like seeing that whenyou're, thinking of something
and seeing your double numbers.
Or when you're, oh, okay, well,yeah, okay, I'm on the right
(37:06):
path.
Or seeing a particular Messagefrom spirit somehow, but I don't
know.
I kind of kept it loose and itwas just yellow was just so
random.
I was like, okay, well, we'llsee what happens with that.
And I tell you what, I willcheck back in with Lisa at some
point.
Yeah, let us know if anythingmanifests.
Yeah.
And it can be helpful to shareit with a friend as well.
(37:27):
Sometimes we can't always getclear and it can be helpful to
get a reading or to share itwith a friend.
Oh, what does yellow mean toyou?
See, there you go.
I was wondering if you weregoing to ask.
If you don't outsource yourintuition, but, it can be
helpful because someone might beable to share a different
perspective you might not haveconsidered.
So to me, yellow represents asun.
So I think of the color yellow,I associate it with the sun.
(37:47):
And to me, I also think of.
To me Sun equals joyful play.
So the image and the essencethat I'm getting right now is
like a little child runningaround just in freedom and in
play.
So that's what I feel when Iconnect in with you now and
respond to that message.
So, and likewise, you know, tome, confidence, peace.
(38:08):
When I thought of the next halfan hour, I want to feel
peaceful.
I love that.
I felt like to me, confidencewas representing how I actually
was feeling in this experiencewith you today.
So, I didn't feel it initially,but then as we started talking,
I just settled into confident.
And I think that comes from theexperiences that we've had and
shared over time.
(38:29):
My confidence in my business andmy intuition and my decisions
has definitely grown.
Peace, confidence, and what wasthe other word I had?
Peace, confidence.
Oh, it's gone.
Maybe I'll have to put Can youremember it?
No.
Not me neither.
Peace, confidence, it'll come tome in a minute or it won't.
(38:50):
Anyway, so I'd love to know whatyour word was.
So pop it in, in the chat and,yeah, share with us what you
got, but most importantly, whatdoes it mean to you?
So, Drawing meaning from themessages that you receive can be
fun.
And just, just for the sake ofplay.
I have a, an odd question, whichI thought I'd throw in just for
fun.
Cause that was also on myagenda.
(39:11):
Um, if you could have anyone.
Alive or that has passed, playyou in a movie, who would you
choose?
She doesn't know about thisquestion.
Who would you choose to playyou?
I know who I think you, I knowwho I think I'd choose for you.
One of the minions.
Who would I, oh God, that'sreally putting me in a spot.
(39:32):
A spot.
Kate Blanchett.
She's cool.
Love Kate Blanchett.
Yeah.
She's amazing.
Who would you put?
I would have thought farrahFawcett.
Oh yeah.
It was right.
Farrah Fawcett.
Yeah.
I used to get that a lot in mytwenties.
Cause of the hair.
Beautiful hair.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not unhappy.
I'd be Sandra Bullock, ofcourse.
Love Sandra Bullock.
(39:53):
So.
Yeah, I think, I think it's niceto, oh, that's right.
We did promise at the end thatwe'd bring through Anya and, and
do a bit of a message.
Do you want to channelChristian?
Nope.
I knew you'd say that.
I thought I'd ask.
Be rude not to ask.
Okay.
So I'll just bring through amessage and we'll see what Anya
has to say about what we've beendiscussing today.
(40:15):
Maybe she can remember thatthird word that I can't.
Anya (40:18):
Ah yes, yes, yes, we are here, we are here.
We are very interested inhearing the definitions of how
you can connect with us and yourintuition and your intuitive
knowing and also how that canallow you to make, clearer
decisions in business, but alsowe like to reflect upon how not
(40:38):
only can it serve you in thebusiness aspect, but also in
everyday life.
It is about leaning into avibration and a frequency of
unconditional love.
That is what we are here torepresent.
Firstly, and most importantly,for yourself as an avenue and a
pathway for you to connect intoa feeling of coming home, a
(41:03):
feeling of knowing that you weresupported, knowing that you are
loved, knowing that you areencouraged in all of the
endeavors you wish to pursue.
experience in this life.
We don't come with an agenda.
We come with partly an agenda toconnect for those of you like
Lisa who have chosen long beforethis incarnation to allow us to
(41:29):
express through and with her inorder to bring intuitive
messages through to humanity toraise the collective vibration,
we want to remind you that itstarts with you.
Our purpose first and foremostis to help you to align to what
it is that gifts you with afeeling of presence, a feeling
(41:51):
of connection, which was thatthird word that Lisa could not
recall, because it is importantto not only Feel that connection
with the vibration of love thatis here to support you.
But also most importantly, andthe part that we love reflecting
on and experiencing with andthrough you is the connection
(42:12):
that you have with each other.
Nothing is more important thanopening your heart.
It's sharing invulnerability andit is through as Lisa and Marnie
have both experienced throughthe greatest challenges and
triumphs that the most beautifulconnections have been formed.
Some which last a short timewhilst working together and as
(42:33):
in this case is proven to gobeyond into friendship which has
been rewarding certainly fromour perspective to witness and
also through we know the way inwhich Lisa resonates and feels.
We want to offer you anopportunity, Marty, while we are
here together once more, ifthere is anything that you would
like to ask us today.
(42:56):
I'd just be really happy with apowerful message about 2025 and
my journey through it.
Yes, your journey is aboutmoving with grace back into flow
and back into starting to bringabout the new way in which
you're going to be operating andsharing your gifts with the
world.
There has been a process and atime of reflection, which has
(43:18):
been important as lots ofdifferent components of your
business have been some retired.
Some change shape and form andothers starting to be born from
the gifts that have come throughthe challenges you've
experienced.
So we cannot see into the futureas to what it is that you will
create.
However, we do wish toacknowledge the heart with which
(43:42):
you operate in the passion foryou to see great leadership.
Be encouraged with those withwhom you connect with and coach
and know that anything that youput your energy, your time, your
attention, your heart, yourpassion, and your dedication
towards can only thrive.
(44:04):
And we look forward towitnessing and seeing you.
Those expressions being birthedthrough you, through your
connection with your ownguidance, through your
intuition, but most importantly,through what you feel the world
needs at this time, and we dofeel there's growth within, uh,
(44:25):
empowering female leaders tostep forth, and we feel that
there is lots to come from you,and look forward to seeing you
start to grow.
Come out of come out of theshadows.
Yes, and start to be seen startto express if that resonates and
(44:47):
feels right for you.
We look forward to theexperience of it.
Beautiful.
And message for you all is toplay well, enjoy life and Be
gentle and kind with yourselves,the softening in the mind,
softening into the expectationsthat you hold upon yourself and
(45:11):
allow yourself to, feel intothose intuitive insights, even
when, as with Lisa, has recentlyexperienced a feeling of doing
too much, having too much on andthen arguing with the fact that
she felt overwhelmed, when infact it was simply because her
life had become overwhelming.
And it is also acknowledgingthose difficult emotions are
(45:32):
usually there as a message aswell.
Intuition isn't just aboutfeeling and hearing and
experiencing and expressingpositive messages.
Sometimes it comes through,anxiety and stress, and that can
be intuitive also.
We also acknowledge the veryhuman aspect of your experience.
(45:54):
And to summarize, when Lisa justsimply understood that the
overwhelm came because she has alot on her plate, she was able
to make different choices andstart to learn how to say no to
some of the things that weretaking time, even though she
wanted to do them.
Yes.
So short period, Trust in thatfeeling, trust in that was the
(46:15):
gut bringing up a discomfort fora reason.
Yes.
And we hope that sharing Lisa'spersonal stories, which she
loves us to do so much, helpsyou to unpack and understand
your bodies and your emotions.
And your natural responses towhat's going on in your life
experience.
(46:36):
Ah, we have enjoyed thisencounter and look forward to
many more.
Namaste.
Oh man, she speaks almostwithout breath.
And it just flows.
I could see and sense what shewas, seeing from you.
But I feel like she was holdingback a little bit.
Because we're in a publicexperience here as well.
(46:58):
So what you're saying is, Ireally wanted to kick my arse,
but she wasn't going to do it ina public forum.
Okay.
No, she's too gentle for that.
I think, I think it's justencouraging you, you know, to
follow your passion and do whatfeels right.
And there's no guarantees isthat, you know, we kind of just
step in and give it a go.
Just do one.
Whatever it is, just do one andsee how it goes.
(47:21):
I hope you, yeah, it has, it'sbeen fun and I hope you enjoyed
this experience.
Thank you so much for spendingyour time with us today.
I don't take it for granted.
I certainly know, and I knowMarnie, you understand this too,
that time is so precious.
So I just want to say from thebottom of my heart, thank you
for it.
(47:41):
You know, for being here, sharethis episode.
If you have a friend or a familymember that you think would
benefit from understanding moreabout their intuition,
especially their intuition inbusiness.
And Marnie, is there any newcourses that you have or new
experiences that you'd like toshare?
No, not at the moment.
So, but what we do have comingup is a retreat in May for
(48:05):
speaking with confidentconfidence.
So learning how to speak fromstage and sell from stage.
The difference is that we workon it with you.
I work on it, it's not just acourse where you sit there, take
notes, yadda yadda.
It's really, really, reallyhands on.
So it's very different to mostspeaker courses that you'll do.
So how could you not have?
Fun.
And the second is, if you wantto become a business coach, if
(48:27):
you have that background incorporate or in running your own
business, but you want theframework and the curriculum,
then head over to Fempire and,check out the business coach
program and we'll get youcertified so that you can step
into becoming a business coachwith courage, assuming you're a
woman, because it's all tailoredtowards women stepping into
(48:50):
business coaching, becausethere's not enough women out
there doing it.
And your website address sothose can jump in.
Fempire.
com.
au Perfect.
We'll pop the links in the shownotes.
So until next time, trustyourself, listen to your inner
wisdom and keep shining yourlight and we will see you soon.
Thanks again, Marnie.
You're welcome.
Okay.
Bye.
It's been a pleasure.
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