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Lisa Brandis (00:00):
Sometimes when
we're in a chaotic experience,
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we can only meet the level ofourselves that we have grown to.
Sarah Doig (00:06):
And he just said to
me, is dad coming home?
And I said, I don't know.
I'm like, mate, I don't know Ican't answer that.
Lisa Brandis (00:15):
We can't love
others until we fully love
ourselves like it gives us withthat ability to find that
compassion for ourselves andthen we have that as a gift we
can give to others.
I remember like a 50-year-oldman just humbled by reiki and he
was just like, I've never feltloved like that before.
And he had the whole group of uswomen all ball on our eyes out.
You know what I love about Reikiis you can still experience it.
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Even if you're skeptical.
Sarah Doig (00:40):
Welcome to season
two of Connecting to Spirit.
I'm your host, Lisa Brandis, andI'm so excited to be back with a
fresh new season where we'll bediving even deeper into the
practices, tools, and insightsthat help you strengthen your
intuition and access divineguidance.
This season, you can expect apowerful blend of channel
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teachings from my own spiritteam, as well as heartfelt
interviews with leaders inintuition, healing and spiritual
growth, and real transformativestories from people around the
world who've experienced lifechanging breakthroughs.
So this isn't just a podcast,it's a transformational audio
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journey created to help youbuild trust in your inner
wisdom.
Gain clarity and awaken yourspiritual gifts, one practical
step at a time.
And what better way to beginthan with the deeply inspiring
story of one of my Reiki masterstudents, Sarah Doig Sarah
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followed the quiet whispers ofher intuition and discovered
intuitive reiki, a path that ledher home to herself.
In this conversation, she opensup about a healing journey, what
it truly means to feel loved,and how Reiki transformed not
only her own life, but the livesof her family, including the
miraculous healing of herhusband From a near death
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experience, Sarah also shareshow the Reiki principles became
a sacred foundation for livingwith deep self-respect, love,
and spiritual alignment.
This episode is filled withhope, heart, and a reminder of
what's possible when we listento the wisdom within.
Let's dive in.
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Welcome Sarah.
I'm so honored to have you hereas my first guest in season two
of Connecting to Spirit.
Thank you so much for having mehere.
Lisa, it's such a privilege tobe sitting here with you today.
I know there's big energy in theroom.
I just wanna meet this SarahDoig that's on this paperwork.
She's pretty impressive.
Yeah, she sounds amazing.
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That's because she is Oh, thankyou.
You are a gift to the world andto all the people that you
serve.
Let's start right at thebeginning, Sarah.
Can you take us back to a momentwhen your intuition first nudged
due towards learning Reiki?
I guess my intuition has alwaysbeen a part of me.
But it was really amplified at atime when I was a young mum.
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I had two young children at thetime, five and three to be
precise, and I just remember Iwas going through all of these
emotions that were surfacing andI just did not know what to do
with them.
And there was this.
Mum who was desperate to find aconnection with her children,
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but there was also thisspiritual self that was coming
in.
And at that time I was very,what I look back now and think
it was quite chaotic.
It was trying to, understandwhat's more important.
And it was like you had spiritleading one way, and then you
had the mom that was in, well,she was sitting with all of
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these big emotions that shecouldn't process.
So, at the time I just rememberfeeling such a yearning to just
be present and hang on, I needto stop.
Not gonna hear the emotioncoming down.
Yeah, I know.
I it is beautiful.
Yeah.
What is it, what is that?
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What's that emotion you'refeeling, Sarah?
I don, the emotion I'm feelingis just what it means to be a
mum.
And I do get so emotional aboutit because it's probably the
purpose of why I'm here.
And one of those, commitments Imade in this life is to find
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love to become a mum and toexperience life.
For me, it was that path, butthen there was also the spirit
side as well.
So, going back to that time whenI was a mum and I was sitting
with all of this energy and allof these stuff was coming up, I
just went back to this momentwhen I was a little girl and I
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just remember it was like, Iremember she looked up at the
sky one day and they said, lifewill be better one day and
you'll get there.
So I always knew that.
In that moment, I feltsomething.
So whenever I felt that withwhatever messages or whatever I
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was guided with, I knew that wasan intuition.
I just knew that it wassomething greater than you that
was there.
Yeah.
And present.
Present.
And I really trusted that.
At the time I remember just tofollow that and, funnily enough,
I just jumped on the internetand typed in, intuitive healing,
I think.
And then, it just kept comingback to you, Lisa, and, I
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remember looking at your websiteand I just, I felt the energy
behind, your website and therewas so much information on
there.
So that's what caught me themost to connect with you, Lisa.
I remember when I first madecontact with you, I wanted to,
well, I rang you and I I thinkyou, you did ring me.
I remember having a distinctlyremember having a conversation
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where you must have seen thespiritual mentoring as an option
on my website, which is usuallyreserved for people that have
done reiki level one, thenthey've done the practitioner
training, then they go to themasters and then they're like, I
just wanna become a teacher.
I wanna learn directlyone-on-one.
And it is, the advanced placewhere people.
Kind of get to and from memoryyou said, I wanna do that.
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And you were like, no, no, no,no.
We don't do that.
And I was like, well, why not?
And we're going to do that.
I remember the reason I reallywanted to do that, and I said
we're going to do that, isbecause I was clearly looking
for, at that time how tounderstand a clear message from
spirit, because I was sittingwith so much energy and so much
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stuff that needed to be shifted.
I remember the messages thatwere coming through were quite
distorted because I didn't know.
If like, I knew it's thatknowing without knowing, you
know, it's intuition.
Mm.
So, and I just knew I could getthat from you.
So it was like, so I convincedDo hard work.
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You did.
It's, you know, and I thinkthat's exactly what mentorship
is about.
It's one-on-one.
It allows me to open up all ofmy skills and resources and meet
you where you are at and helpyou too.
It kind of fast tracks theprocess, which is certainly what
we experience working together.
Yeah.
And then, we did see the valueof you going back and doing
reiki as a foundational practiceto just give you that connection
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to the energy work.
Giving you that place that youcan come back to where you find
that inner stillness.
And then of course the intuitiveside was just a natural
progression, isn't it?
Because it's just like, how dowe determine truth from, like
you said, when we're gettingdistorted messages, sometimes
when we're in a chaotic,experience, we can only meet the
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level of ourselves that we havegrown to.
And that inner healing is whathelps us to raise our
consciousness and to learn moreself-love, more self-compassion.
Moving beyond the trauma isfear.
So you're picking up fear-basedmessages and it can be clouded.
Yeah.
And the clarity is important.
It's an important piece.
And everything that I've learnedfrom the amazing teachers that
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I've met is that.
Love is the answer.
Yeah.
That when we come back andreturn to love, to me, that is
the biggest gift that Reikigives us.
It's not just the practicaltools and learning, there's
that, but it's, it is thereturning home to ourself, isn't
it?
Yeah.
And to that, I think, and Iremember this and people can
find your reiki testimonial on,on YouTube, by just searching
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your name, but I remember yousaying that the attunement to
reiki was how you felt you wereloved.
Can you share a little bit aboutthat feeling and how that then
translated to you being more ofa loving mother with your kids?
I remember when I first did theReiki one workshop and I was
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still sitting with a lot ofstuff that I was, trying to move
through.
And I remember when it camearound to do the attunement I'll
never forget it actually, it wasjust, one of the most beautiful
experiences of my life where Iremember just sitting in a space
where I could feel an energythat I've never felt before.
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And in that space I was able to,feel loved and feel nurtured.
It just opened up thisconnection to the universe,
which is, the source.
And, it then helped me help thebody to, navigate what it was
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going through and shift it in a,supportive.
Yeah, it really I don't know.
It just hard to put into words,isn't it?
It's a mystery.
Like we, I quite often say whenpeople like, there's the
practical side, the tools thatwe develop with reiki, but then
there's this element ofspirituality that is sacred.
It can't be planned.
It's when we allow for spacethat is brought about usually by
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vulnerability and compassion andlove comes in response to a need
quite often.
So, and then, I've had thatjust, it's just it.
You can't, it's hard to believe,but I'll have groups that will
form and people are dealing withthe same issues.
And then they find this soulfriendship group out of the
people that have met.
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And some of them have gone onand still friends now, lifetime
friends made in those workshops.
And through that sharedvulnerability or just through
everyone just wanting to learn,this beautiful modality to be
able to have better connections,not only in their own life, but
also better, connections withour own internal guidance
system, which is the spirit, thesoul self source, whatever.
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I call it reiki as well,whatever word.
There's so many.
So thank you for sharing that.
'cause I know it's had aprofound, effect in your life,
which is amazing in how youloved your children.
There was a time in your lifewhen you were called upon that
healing skill of reiki when yourhusband had a, would you call it
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a near death experience?
Came pretty close to it, didn'the?
Well, we've had a fewconversations about it recently,
because there has been a lot of,post-injury, in his bodies
that's been coming up and we'vebeen moving through those things
together and, helping him, doyou mind talking about what
actually happened?
Yeah he was, he had a, quite abad motorbike experience.
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It was, a Friday evening.
I remember it clear as day.
I remember the clothes he waswearing when he left, and the
last words I said to him, I waslike, what are you doing wearing
them socks?
Like you look ridiculous.
Like, I just remember he hadthese white socks on and I was
like, oh my God.
Don't do anything silly withthem white socks on.
'cause that's kind of in bad.
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It just reminded me of thatMichael Jackson, you know, I was
laughing at him and I was like,black pants and white socks on.
Oh my God.
Stood like a dog walking,walking out the door.
And I, yeah, and it was only acouple of hours after that.
It was early evening and I got aknock on the back door and all I
got told in that moment was,he's on the side of the road
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and.
Ambulance was on his way.
And Sam was a police that cameto the door?
No, it was actually a friend ofhis at the time.
So, it was quite a disturbingmessage to receive because my
kids were there and they heardit.
And the moment I turned aroundand I saw my younger son at the
time,
he just said to me,
is dad coming home?
And I said, I don't know.
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I'm like, mate, I dunno.
I can't answer that.
I said, but what you need to do,as I said, you need to go and
get a bag.
You need to pack some clothes,and we just need to get in the
car.
How old was your son at thattime?
So this wasn't long after.
We, as I was saying, I wastrying to shift through all this
stuff and navigate being a momand all the rest of it.
So this was when they werearound five and three.
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Wow.
So they were so young.
So he was five years old and hewas, yeah, he had, well this is
going back, so his accident wasin 2021.
Anyway, and then, so they werejust little babies and, I just
remember, I don't even know how,oh, my, my eldest son, God bless
him, I, he just went into likemode of that fix mode.
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Right.
And he just started navigatingeveryone and organizing.
So, wow.
Because I just remember goingcompletely outta body and I was
just like, okay.
You'd be in fear and shock, Iwould imagine.
Yeah.
Process.
and that's something my bodydoes not like the feeling of.
So again, anyway, we're on ourway up to the Royal Perth
Hospital and I was ringing himfrantically because.
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I was like, hopefully he's gothis phone on.
'cause I just knew the ambulancepeople, they pack up their stuff
and put it in a bag.
And you didn't know whatcondition he was in at that
point?
No.
Okay.
But he was alive.
You knew that?
Well, not really, because Ihadn't even told you that.
No.
So there was just, he was on theside of the road and the
ambulance was on their way.
Oh my.
So between that time and gettingon the way up there, I'm like,
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anything could have happened,it's a Friday evening.
Don't know what number he's inthe road to get into emergency
because, yeah.
So we're on our way up there andI have had to make the phone
call to his mom and just say,he's been in a motorbike
accident.
Don't know the extent So on theway up there and then, Austin's
mom was there, to meet me and,we, I just remember being in the
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room, in the, ed room and Iasked him, I was like, where is
he?
And they said, oh, he stillhasn't been like triaged and
that yet.
Mm.
So, but during that time I didget a phone call from one of the
ambulance, drivers, and she, lethim speak to me and he was like,
I'm okay.
Oh, blah, blah, blah.
Bet you that.
But I knew he wasn't okaybecause that's just, he just
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likes to tell a lot of storiesthat aren't real.
And I just knew Yeah.
Didn't believe him.
Yeah.
And then I, so then Austin's momtook the kids, and then I stayed
up there, and then I finally gotback into the ed department and
it was, I didn't recognize himand there was, it was just chaos
in there.
And the lady just gave me a cupwith water in it and a sponge.
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And she said, you need to keephim hydrated.
And I was like, well, can hehave a drink?
And she's like, no, you need tosponge his lips.
And then I'm thinking, probablyhelpful giving you something to
do in that, in that situation.
Rather than just standingfeeling helpless.
And.
Again, I didn't know where hewas.
And then all I hear is I'd doanything for a frozen coke to
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get slapped on my face.
'cause he was obviously sothirsty and I was like, oh my
God,
I could do so much
worse to you right now.
So then I went over there, butat that time he was in so much
pain.
He, all his clothes are rippedoff.
He's he was strapped down to oneof those very thin wooden, it's
spinal block.
Yeah.
Spinal board.
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He's, he was in a neck braceand, I said to the ladies, I
said, what?
They said, we dunno.
He said there's, he had someinternal bleeding.
He was pretty cut up and then Ijust, by that time, then I
started going into this victimmode of why me, why is this
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happening?
Started making it about meinstead of him, and I just
didn't know how to deal with it.
And then I just remember, okay.
Lisa Brandis (16:40):
You're so close.
Yeah.
So I am, in that moment I waslike.
It's all right.
I'm just gonna stop letting itout.
It's just emotions coming up.
So I grabbed the cup and startedsping his lips.
And in that moment, I just sawmy husband.
I just saw my husband lyingthere in a place of, so I, there
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was nothing I could do.
There was nothing I could do.
And he was in so much pain and,keeping his lip sponge.
And I'm like, anyway, so thengave him a couple of kisses on
his lips and stuff that had abit of a cry.
And then I just, in thatconnection of just being close
to him again and just tellinghim I loved him and was gonna be
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okay, then I started, then thislittle whisper of.
Wisdom come through.
And it was yourself, Lisa, andit was going back to those reiki
workshop when you shared some ofyour own personal experiences
mm-hmm.
With your husband.
And I just said to myself, well,I didn't say to myself, it was
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like a whisper from, you said,what would you like, what would
you do in this moment?
And I just remember juststepping away from it all and
just tapping into that mysticalside of spirit and connecting.
With the reiki and I went, oh,can, let's see how powerful this
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actually is.
Mm-hmm.
So it's like you suddenly getthrough the trauma.
I remember this with Hannah'sBurns and when Gerald Leukemia,
it's almost like you get throughall that kind of where you need
to just be present.
Yeah.
And then all of a sudden it'slike, oh yeah, I can do reiki.
It's like, it hits you like amemory, isn't it?
Or you just suddenly go.
Yeah.
And I think when you, that'sright.
When it's someone you love somuch, it's, that's when you go,
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or you do anything for love, youdo anything to do what you got
to help, so you step aside.
And then I was looking at hisbody and then he's, one of his
foot was just hanging out offthe bed and I said, what have
you done to your foot?
And he's like, oh, I've brokenmy ankle again.
And I just went up and I juststarted doing reiki on his, on
his ankle and his foot, and,just going over his body and
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just, you know.
Just happening in and giving himsome reiki and then, then he
finally had a bed and everythingto go to.
So my time was finished there.
So anyway, I went home and yeah,went back the next day and then
I remember seeing him in thetrauma ward.
He was laying there.
So beau, he looked so beautifuland so peaceful.
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Maybe because he was quiet foronce, I don't know.
But and then he was all cleanedup.
And then I remember saying thedoctors were there at the time
and I said, oh, what's the gowith his injuries?
Have you got any results in thatyet?
And they said, oh, look, he'scompletely snapped his
collarbone.
He is done this, done that.
A few fractures in his spine.
And I said, what about his, whatabout the foot and ankle?
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And they go.
Yeah, well on X-rays that cameup that it was broken or was
fractured or, but that's fine.
That hasn't, there's nothing onthere now we've re x-rayed him
or done something.
'cause I wanted whatever it was,another, oh, whatever it was.
But, it come through and they'relike, no, no, no, he's saying's
fine.
And I was like, okay, that'sinteresting.
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Mm-hmm.
So then I just kept that in theback of my mind.
But then, he did spend eightdays in the trauma ward, but
again, the mystical side ofspirit pops in again.
And, I was like, what can I doin this situation that can build
a connection for all of us tojust feel loved, feel present,
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and just try and, get throughout the trauma that was coming
up.
So, because there was so muchgoing backwards and forth, I
took the kids outta school andthen we went and bought some
Lego and I said, we're gonna goup there today and we're going
to, do some Lego with dad andtook some lunch and everything
up there.
He didn't have a lot of mo so hewasn't walking, he couldn't walk
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and there was no movement in hisarms.
Like they were getting worse andworse each day.
So at that time, that's when Iwent, okay.
So I was like, what can we do?
So got the Lego and we went upthere and I remember doing the
reiki symbols on there andactivating reiki on the kids and
myself and him and just goingthrough and just, opening up
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that space.
And then, we were startedbuilding Lego and then the kids
like energy had shifted, myenergy had shifted and then it
become very playful and excitingand it was, you know, and then,
I noticed he was starting to bea bit more alert and then he was
like.
Or move over here a bit morekids.
And he was actually trying, andthe more he was trying, the more
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he could move.
I was like, oh my God, this isso fascinating.
Like this is, this is it.
This is love.
In the presence of love and thepresence of just removing the
fear, you tap into this placethat it's like the body has a
pre, it's the magic forwellness, isn't it?
Magic.
It's the miracle of life wherethrough that awareness, you're
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able to observe everything fromso many different levels.
And then when you tap into thatmystical, magical realm, the
connection just.
It's like a trajectory of life.
Then it's like, you could begoing down one path, but then
you can just slightly make thislittle change and connect to
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spirit and the source, be thatvessel.
And then it's like thetrajectory of life shifts.
And then next minute you'relike, oh, okay, so this is all,
this is what we want.
We want, we want him home.
So it's again, that connectioncoming back to love and it comes
back to reiki and it's just inthat moment, I could be a mom, I
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could be a wife, I could be me.
And just saw something shift.
And it was from that moment.
I went anything in life'spossible.
What was the shift?
What happened?
Was it a belief, was it a love?
Because I just knew that,through those des that
desperation of wanting to feelloved and to move through those
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things that I was trying to movethrough.
You realize you already wereloved.
Yeah.
And I just needed spirit to holdspace for me to actually go
through the reiki experience,and I never knew anything about
Reiki at the time, but, I guessthat's why intuition, led me to
intuitive Reiki with you, Lisa.
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And it's from that, it's justopened up so many more doorways
of existing here, like just tothe omnipresence of everything.
here's just the foundation ofeverything.
And it's like we're all, Reikireminds us of love, doesn't it?
Oh, it brings us back to thatspace of love.
And then when we connect withit, it's once you've experienced
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it, it's hard to go through lifeof sleep.
Like I I feel like before Ifound Reiki, tell me if it's
similar for you, but it wasalmost like I was asleep
walking.
And reiki was an awakening whereeverything looked better.
Everything.
It's like an activation again.
It's an activation.
There's, and also I think whenwe go through these traumatic
life experiences, it does humbleus.
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It brings us to our knees,doesn't it?
In those.
Painful moments.
We are touched by love.
Love, I know I've shared it, inworkshops and in my book about,
that moment of seeing thevulnerability, my husband just
ran a marathon and I was thereagain with him.
We had this most beautiful lunchwhere he was talking about how
hard it was for him to getthrough that last 10 Ks.
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It's oh, wow.
It's, 30 Ks.
He was rocking it and loving it.
As soon as he hit that 30 Kmark, it just became a struggle
and he had to find somethingwithin, in order to push through
that pain and to find, and hesat at opposite me, and I hope
he doesn't mind me sharing this,but he just said, I did it.
Like I found that place within.
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And I think, Sarah, that'sexactly what Reiki has gifted
you.
With.
We can't love
others until we fully love
ourselves like it gives us withthat ability to.
Find that compassion forourselves, and then we have that
as a gift we can give to others.
We see the world through a bitmore of a lens of, a lighter
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lens, where we see love in allplaces.
And, it shifts our perceptions.
It shifts our life.
It certainly is, a catalyst forgoing, oh my God, like I want to
learn more.
That was what happened for me.
It was like a flame was lit inmy heart and I just knew I wanna
learn everything I can aboutthis mystery, Absolutely.
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And I think the greatesttakeaway from Reiki is to be
human and to enjoy the humanside of things and to be like of
co everyone wants to feel love.
Everyone's oh, there's such abelief system.
You go to school, you go towork, you find love, and then
you have a family.
And so half of the time we'relike, well, I've done all of
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that, but why don't I feel it?
Why am I still unhappy?
Yeah.
Because I've done everything.
Yeah.
That's more in the materialisticworld.
We've chased all the externalsources of love, but we've never
been brought to the internal.
That's right.
Source of love.
And'cause we've beendisconnected from source and
there's this huge movementthat's happening now.
And I think, if we wanna connectand what they say, we've all got
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access to, well we do all haveaccess to it.
But you, it's what comes withreiki that teaches you the
values and it's the principlesthrough those teachings.
It's like you understand whatawareness is, you understand
what it's like to be in thatpresent moment to observe what
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is happening in that moment, tounderstand what the connection
is with everything outsideyourself.
It's palpable, isn't it?
Those moments?
Human behavior, those moments ofconnection.
Yeah.
It just gives you an opportunitywithin yourself to tap in the
best version of yourself whenyou go, I don't wanna do
anything because I feel like Ihave to.
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It's what can I do to helpsomeone?
Or what is it that would changesomeone else's life?
And it's just that little shiftwhere you can go, how do I be of
service or something.
But it's not giving.
So much of yourself away, youstart learning respect for
yourself.
You start honoring yourself andit's honoring yourself, not in
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it's all about me and thingslike that.
It's about honoring from a levelof respect.
And having, clarity to say,having clarity within your mind
and heart to say no, or to sayyes, or to keep pushing through
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those times when it is hard,it's, to know whether it's, I
think a lot of growth and changehappens in that space of
discomfort, but we've gotta workout.
I think we need to findourselves, we need to know who
we are to be able to havediscernment as to what it is.
Like if we just.
Do the right thing.
That's what Reiki teaches us.
To follow the principles is justfor today it's about
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mindfulness.
It's about connecting in the nowmoment, being present.
Yeah.
Bringing our presence to thosewhom we are meeting and
connecting with.
If we have that inner awarenessof who we are, we have that
level of self-acceptance, whichis self-love, self-acceptance.
Then what happens, and this ispersonally what I've
experienced, is that when chaoscomes from the outside world,
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there's a level of resiliencethere that I think, wouldn't
have been there without thechallenges that kind of brought
me to my knees and brought me tothat place of surrender Where we
literally let go.
And I've had a couple ofprofound moments.
There's something I want totouch on mm-hmm.
That you mentioned, which isfirstly I wanna check, I'm sure
the listeners wanna know howAustin's doing now.
So just fast track.
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'cause we've left them in, well,I haven't murdered him yet.
And I said to him, when you'reup and walking, that's when I'm
gonna murder you.
He, how did the accidentactually happen as well?
Because, so he was just on thehighway and he's gone to
overtake and then, the car infront of him has just slammed on
the brakes.
And then obviously when he wasovertaking and sped up, then
he's hit the back of it.
So then, oh, so like a directcollision.
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He went flying in the air and,he spare us the details, but
just, yeah.
So high speed and it was veryYeah, it was, that's horrific.
Yeah.
And he just remembers justflying through the air and he.
Said like he just rememberscoming out of his body.
And that is a near deathexperience, isn, isn't it?
Absolutely.
'Cause in that moment when he's,and it's always stood with me
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and I ask him now, and he goes,I don't remember the accident,
but I just remember there was aperiod of time, not long after
it, he would always say, he justremembers going through the air
and just going, okay, and thenjust his bo like, it's like his
spirit said to him, right, thisis what you're gonna do.
And then he just went with itwhen he hit the ground.
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So he didn't resist.
Okay.
There was, so there was in thatitself, there was, there was
guidance or, yeah.
Something greater.
And then when he came back intohis body, he said he just went
and did the, you know, the pain.
He was just fortunate.
There was a nurse on the, on thehighway and she pulled over.
What?
Yeah.
So you can't make this stuff up,so he was just, he had a nurse
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there with him at the time, soWow.
Yeah, that would've been that.
And that's.
That's all.
Imagine if I, that's beautiful.
I love that.
Yeah.
If you couldn't be there, theuniverse put someone in a spot
to help.
That's amazing.
I've been teaching reiki formany years now, and there's one
thing that I certainly wrestlewith myself and I'm wondering if
you've experienced the samething, we quite often get this
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thrill from learning reiki andtapping into, I call it the
grace or that spiritual aspect.
And it's almost like it couldbecome alluring to kind of spend
so much time reading anddevouring as much information as
you can.
And then all of a sudden we getoutta balance and we become
like, almost desperately seekingthis pure way of living life.
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And then, and then it can almostbe, a challenge with, coming
back into the physical reality,like almost, for me it was a not
accepting.
The human aspect.
And you mentioned somethingabout your spirituality brought
you back around to a fullappreciation of being a mom and
being human and being in themessy moments.
And I'd love to touch upon thatbecause it really is
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challenging.
And I, when I saw a psychologistfor a while, she'd say to me, I
don't, Lisa, you are a littlehuman.
Like we're all, and it wasalmost this bringing me back to
relax.
Especially when you startteaching, and I know you're on
this path of teaching others aswell, it becomes like we have to
remind ourself it's okay to behuman.
It's okay to fuck up and, swearand, make mistakes.
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What I've found is that the morevulnerable we are, the more we
actually, bring others in.
'cause then they're like, oh,well she can be that amazing,
but she's also a hot mess likeme.
And, and then we findconnection.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I'd love to know your take on.
Well, that's what I saw in you,Lisa, and I saw that in the
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website.
Messy.
No, no, not the messy, no, no.
It was when I connected throughyour website and through
intuition, yeah, through thatchaos and, and spirit.
It led me to the energy that Iwas looking for that, that
bridge.
So, and that's what I saw in youand, on your website it was, and
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I've always said this about you,Lisa.
You've got the business side andthen you've got the intuitive
reiki.
And I had never seen thatbefore.
So to me, I was visualizing itand feeling it.
So I was like, this is the realdeal because there is such a
belief system.
Society has.
On, reiki or spirituality andall of these things where you
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have to look a certain way oryou have to be, do this and
that.
It has to be all love and light.
It has to be as that's calledspiritual bypassing, isn't it?
Exactly.
Where we get frustrated'causelike, oh, I'll just be real.
Like, yeah.
You know, we, yeah, I think it'simportant.
So it was so in that realness,and then when, when I did the
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workshops with Youa, I seen allof that and I was like, oh my
God, this is like, this isperfect because there's no
bullshit.
There's no nothing.
It was just, it was differentbecause, we can booking to these
places and then we can just all,it's just, anyway.
But in saying that, I really hadto.
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To truly walk the path that youwanna walk with the reiki, you
have to be aware of what yourintentions are before the reiki,
because the reiki is the key,it's the source.
So if you are wanting to doreiki my intentions were one to
get true through thespirituality world.
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Mm-hmm.
And the number one was to be amom.
So my intentions were to feelloved.
Well, I got that.
Yeah.
And then there, there was quitea journey.
It's been five years since I didthe first one to completing my
masters.
Where I found myself just waytoo connected to spirit and then
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I was not doing.
I was in burnout, not doing thedishes.
But just, tapped into a realitythat does not really exist in
that moment.
Yeah.
So therefore I was just, again,and I was going, then I'd have
to say, right, I'm not doingthis.
I just wanna be a mom.
And I'd always go back to that.
I just wanna be a mom.
I, this is, this is what thatground, would that be it
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grounded?
You got that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
How kids can ground us, can'tthey?
When we Absolutely, when wespend too much time with our
head in the clouds or in ourspiritual processes, it's like
life will come, chaos will come,it can destroy you as well.
It can take away the best partsof you.
And then it can also be, it'snot right for your kids to be
seeing you in that kind of, wayeither.
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Because then they're like, oh,why is she so obsessed with it?
But I'm not saying that's whatreiki does.
What I'm saying is there is apath that comes with reiki and
what it teaches you is to bepresent and to and if you honor.
Yeah, the principles and thevalues and the teaching and the
wisdom, it's quite, you put intoreally, then you put those steps
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into place and you walk thatpath.
And then it's like you can be,and one thing I'll always say,
there's always a, differencebetween a spaghetti bolognese
that's just being throwntogether in a thing of anger or
just in, not in a, some foodmade with love, but when you
present time food with love andthen there's something sitting
there with your children,they're like, oh my God, this is
(35:51):
the best spaghetti oven.
And it's yeah, because I'd madeit with love.
Yeah.
And you notice the difference.
So when you start doing thoselittle things, that's when you
go, oh, this is what it means.
Mm-hmm.
So, but so many differentlayers, isn't it?
There's so many different layersand that's just one.
But, it's not until you trulywalk the path and complete the
journey of the three stages ofthe reiki path that's when
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things change and the mastersreally are coming full circle.
I think Reiki one is about self,it's about healing yourself.
It's about, finding out who youare.
Coming back within Reiki two isthen about, oh, I've got this
amazing skill.
How can I help others?
While you're still helping anddeveloping your own level of,
consciousness.
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We are developing that, internalreference point where we're
starting to see and thinkthrough this, the eyes of source
and love.
Yeah.
So that starts to turning point,develop.
It is a beautiful turning pointand mastery is about it.
It's always there.
It's like we don't step in andout of reiki.
We are reiki.
We become connected back to thatwhole sense of all that is and
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recognizing that we always wereit, we just didn't know that
depth was always there.
We just.
Had lost connection to it.
And I think Reiki returns usback to that place of home.
And what is home?
Home is safety.
Home is security, home is, wherewe can be ourselves.
It's where we are liberated.
It's where we don't have to puton the masks.
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It sometimes a world, invokesfrom us.
Yeah.
Where we play the roles and playthe parts.
It's almost like Reiki doesn'task anything of us, but just
presence.
And it brings us back to thesimplicity and to be in a room,
and I know you've experiencedthis as a reiki master now, to
be able to pass that gift ontosomeone and watch their
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awakening like before your eyes.
I remember like a
50-year-old man just humbled by
reiki and he was just like, I'venever felt loved like that
before.
And he had the whole group of uswomen all balling our eyes out.
cause it was just so, and he'slike, where have you been in my
whole life?
And this was a man that gave alot of love to others.
And that kind of story is justone of many, to be witnessing
that and know that you play apart in passing that torch from
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master to student as it's beenpassed down to me from my master
whereas before, there's thisbeautiful lineage of connection
and love that's at the core ofit.
Vibration, love, connection,touch.
Mm-hmm.
And you talked about a movementearlier, and I just think with
the, with ai, with everythinggoing online and reiki can be
taught as a hybrid, now it'sonline and it's in person.
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It has a combination of both.
A touch point with a master'cause it's important.
Mm-hmm.
The, a achievement's alwaysdone, with my masters, with me,
it's, we need to come back tohuman, to human connection.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
There's nothing more important.
And to me, it's also thespiritual aspect, the intuitive
side, allows us to bringprofound connection and love to
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not only ourself, but to others.
I've got a question for you.
What would you say to someonelistening right now, Sarah, who
feels disconnected from theirintuition or stuck in self-doubt
or just in that place where theywere in that chaotic mind?
What would you say to someonelistening right now that might
be feeling exactly how you feltbefore?
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I think it's safe to say that weall know in a moment of closing
your eyes and just shuttingeverything out, there is a place
inside your heart that knowsyou're worthy.
We all know that.
We all have that feeling, butwhen we're open with our eyes,
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we are just scared because wesee a lot of things outside
ourselves that we think.
Who am I is stopping us fromdoing that, whether it's family,
whether it's beliefs.
Yeah.
Whether it's our job, whetherit's finances, whatever.
(39:53):
So they're scared.
They're, yeah.
And they're scared.
They're feeling confused.
They dunno what to do.
What's your message to them?
There is someone out there thatwill hold space for you.
And when you are in that placeof doubt, fear, and loneliness,
and you're scared, there's a lotof people out there that
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actually do lie awake at nightthinking of people like that,
that don't want you to feel likethat.
And it's okay to feel like that,but it's also okay to say, I'm
worthy.
And, you get one shot at life.
How beautiful will it be?
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Whether you are 20, whether youare 30, whether you are 80 years
old, you might wanna justexperience something you
experience, love, experience, afeeling that you know, you can,
why wouldn't you want, whywouldn't you wanna feel that?
Got nothing to lose, have you?
Like, it's just an experienceyou game.
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It's, and we all want it.
And
do you know what I
love about Reiki is you can
still experience it even ifyou're skeptical, even if you
think it's a load of shit,
Sarah Doig (41:04):
you could be a
mechanic.
It works anyway.
You could be a mechanic, youcould be a butcher, you could be
a hairdresser, you could bewhatever, doesn't matter.
It crosses ages.
It crosses, it's simple tolearn, it's easy to experience.
And it's the sacred mystery thatis a part of our, a part of our
birthright.
Oh, absolutely.
We don't need to earn it.
It's not like the traditionalschooling system that is about
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worthiness and pitting eachother off each other.
It's just all you need is tohave the desire to learn.
That's it.
Yeah.
You just gotta wanna learn andit'll find you, it helps you
live life.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And the ripple effect that comesfrom it too.
it's like when you becomeattuned and you do rake it, it's
like you are then being thatvessel too, for your household.
(41:53):
Oh my gosh.
Even if you do it just for thatalone for yourself healing for
your family and friends, theythen it's opens up a doorway for
your children to feel safe in amoment of chaos and be like,
they step into that because thenyou've.
It's like I gave my back my, Ifound reiki before I met my
husband, before I had mychildren.
I've got Reiki babies.
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I literally reikied them in mywomb and now they're 18 and
driving.
And I remember the nights I laidthere in bed, just helping them
to get to sleep.
And I just have my hand on theirback just giving them reiki and
just holding it just gives ussomething.
And I, Sarah and I were talkingearlier about the fact that I
might have a ADHD and the kidscertainly think I do and my
husband and it allows us thistool to settle.
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It just brings us into thisinstant grounded Oh, absolutely.
Isn't it?
It just is peace and we don'thave to earn it.
You just literally tap into it.
But I think the process and thesigning up to the workshop, it
actually.
It is the key to unlocking thememory of it.
Because we've forgotten how totap into that.
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It unlocks whatever it is.
Yeah.
You are wanting to unlock.
Yeah.
At whatever, however that looks.
And it grows with us.
That's what I've found.
Absolutely.
The more I've developed, themore spirituality there is to
learn.
It started with energy and thenmoved into mediumship and
connecting to spirit and now totrans channeling.
So it just has, it evolves,doesn't it?
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And then also accepting thehuman aspect and stopped trying
to be so God enlightened.
Oh, absolutely.
Oh my God.
The minute I stopped try,especially living up to all the
amazing things my students weresaying about me, it was a little
bit humbling.
'cause at times I felt like ahot mess.
And it's like confronting whenpeople say really nice things
about you, you're just Ugh.
It is, it's just allowing all ofit to be Yeah.
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This beautiful tapestry of life.
If you could go back in time,Sarah, and whisper a message to
your past self before startingthis journey, what would it be?
God, I feel like I did that aswhat, I'm not saying this is
everyone, but just from my ownexperience, it's like I've
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always done things backwards.
I've always been, start at theend, and then work my way back
down to the beginning.
Do you read the end?
Do you read the last chapter ofa book and go back to see what
happens?
I just do things backwards.
I've, through my experience,I've always, it's like I've had
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the ability to see beyond I.
What is happening now.
And I knew, I just remembered,like I said, going back to that
little girl and just of knowingthat it was gonna be okay and
life was gonna change.
I so what would you say to thatlittle girl right now from the
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perspective you have now?
You just have to trust.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
Believe in what?
Trust in what?
In yourself.
Oh, there, it's trust in whatyou feel.
Yeah.
Don't allow anyone to tell youhow to feel and what to feel.
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Yeah.
And you aren't your emotions.
Feel your emotions.
Absolutely.
Feel them.
But don't get swallowed up bythem, but you aren't your
emotions.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
Sarah, there is so much morethat we can learn from you.
You've gone on to study, so manydifferent modalities.
Can you share some of them withus that kind of as part of your
(45:29):
journey is the learning thatyou've gone through?
If anything, I've learnedthrough the modalities.
I've done, I truly handle myheart when I say this.
When you combine thosemodalities with reiki, it's a
whole different, takes it to anew level, takes it to a new
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level.
So you can be like I've donemedical intuitive, crystal
healing, crystal light healing,oh my God.
It's like reiki.
It's just this sacred ancientwisdom that comes with it.
It's all, it just takeseverything to a platform of love
and then doesn't, it's the, it'salmost, well, it is, it's the
heart.
It is, it's the middle part toeverything.
It's the place where we expandfrom.
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It's what amplifies everythingand it's the center of
everything.
When people wanna say as above,so below, so within, so without,
well you are the center of threehearts of creation, which is the
cosmos, the human and earth.
So that's where Reiki expands.
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So it's the universal life forceenergy, life force energy, which
is.
The key.
It's the key to, it's, yeah,it's the key to healing.
It's key healing.
It's our life force and it'spart of our birthright to be
here.
And if you really wannaunderstand, as above, so below
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as within, so without.
It's about walking the humanpath.
And I truly feel it is, oh, if Ihad it my way, I would have all
the nurses and midwives,everyone would be learning my
kids.
I'd be saying the same thing.
I'd be, soon as we'd be gettingit into schools, we'd be getting
it into hospitals, we'd be, butI really think there is a
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movement for it, because I knowat my children's school, they do
mindfulness, they do yoga, theydo wellness, and I know, I just
know I'm gonna say I know thatfeeling that I've got that inner
knowing, within the next fiveyears, things are gonna be
changing.
Yeah.
And I think it's, especiallywith a lot of science is coming
on board now.
Like we've got Joe Dispenza'sjust put out an amazing, video
(47:35):
that where he's actually donescientific studies to measure,
how the mind works with thebody.
And it's not such a woowoo kindof concept anymore.
The mind, the body, it's allconnected.
When we tap into our intuitionand our spiritual aspect, we can
heal.
And I think there's a lot ofchange coming in a really
positive way with the movement.
And certainly I know that you'rea big part of that, Sarah, so
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thank you.
We have got so much that we cantalk about, so we'll have to
wrap it up here, but I've got afeeling there's gonna be another
episode with you if you'd liketo come back.
I'd definitely love to have you.
Oh, I'd love to.
And, thank you so much Sarah,for being, your open, beautiful
self sharing, your journey withyour husband and.
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What that meant to you.
I know it's hard, it was hardfor you.
I could feel the emotion whenyou were sharing, but I really
know that the listeners willhave learned something from your
experience and how you overcamethat.
Most importantly.
And now we've both got ourhusbands around to annoy us for
the ongoing future, which is agift.
And and I say that with tonguein cheek, but there's some
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people that didn't and, don'tget that ability.
And there's something groundedin that love, isn't it?
It just returns us back to thatgratitude that we have them in
our lives and that we, thelove's always there and present.
Your journey is also, really aradiant reminder to connecting
with what's important.
I heard you talk about, your ownsacred development, your own
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awakening to your own,discovering how to love if it
wasn't something that youlearned early on.
And not everyone has, a lovingupbringing and I'm not sure if
you did or didn't, but Yeah.
Sometimes we get loved in waysthat aren't always a match to
the way we need to be loved, sothere's love there, but it may
be, it doesn't come in the waywe need or hoped for.
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And half of it's, we just carryit on from, it's just trauma
comes down through generations.
And it's not even ours.
It's not even theirs.
And it's just we're all doingthe best we can in that moment
in time.
And, love may look different tosomebody else, but if anything,
like I've really, coming back tothat mom role, I've been
spending since I've had my thirdchild is, really connecting with
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my mom and just.
Going back to that place ofunconditional love again.
And it's really beautiful.
So, you can repair, and you canovercome and you can step into a
new future.
And I think that's reallyexciting and people need to be
excited for that too.
Thank you, Sarah.
It's been amazing sharing, and Iknow there's probably a lot of
mums out there that would relateto your story.
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And if you wanna learn moreabout Sarah, she's doing, she's
available for sessions.
You can look her up on awebsite.
We'll put all the details downin the show notes, but it's
innate healing.com.au.
Until next time, follow thelight within trust that you're
exactly where you're meant tobe, and I look forward to
connecting with you Again.
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Thank you.
See you next time.
See you.