November 29, 2024 • 16 mins
Discover the secrets to balancing a career, homeschooling, and family life with our special guest, Charlotte Jones, a working homeschool mom and coach from South Africa. Learn how to break free from traditional educational norms and embrace a more flexible, personalized approach to teaching your children at home. Charlotte shares her personal journey and provides insightful advice on managing the chaos of homeschooling, revealing that it doesn't require the full eight-hour day many assume. This episode promises to equip you with the mindset and motivation needed to embark on a fulfilling homeschooling journey, even with a busy schedule.
Explore the challenges and triumphs of wearing both the parent and educator hats, as Charlotte discusses the importance of mindset, openness, and adaptability in homeschooling. With practical tips on unlearning conventional schooling methods and fostering self-acceptance, this conversation emphasizes the significance of giving yourself grace and embracing the messiness of the beginning stages. Whether you're new to homeschooling or seeking to refine your approach, Charlotte's insights offer a fresh perspective and empower working moms worldwide to create successful educational environments tailored to their family's unique needs. Join us as we navigate the journey of managing chaos one day at a time with patience and understanding.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, hey, mamas, welcome back to Conquering Chaos
A Mom's Guide to Self-CareInsanity.
I'm your host, sydney Crow, andtoday we have Charlotte Jones.
Charlotte Jones lives in sunnySouth Africa next to the ocean,
with her husband, neurodivergenttwin boys and two mini
dachshunds.
She's been a working homeschoolmom since 2017 and absolutely
(00:21):
loves it.
As a coach.
And the creator of my LittleHomeschool and the Strike a
Balance podcast for workinghomeschool moms, she helps new
working homeschool moms figureout the messy beginning so that
they can take their first stepsto feeling confident and
supported.
Welcome, charlotte.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Thank you so much.
It's wonderful to be here today.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm really excited for this podcast.
So you are my secondhomeschooling coach mom that
I've had on the podcast and I'mjust so intrigued by this
because homeschooling for mealways feels like this kind of
unattainable goal.
Both my kids love thesocialization.
(01:04):
I love the break that I get.
I always find that summer isour hardest season of life, when
we are not in routine and notin schedule.
But the idea of being able totravel and have that freedom and
independence is like this maybeone day goal I have out there.
So I'm sure you are going tohave loads of information for me
(01:26):
and anybody else that isconsidering this.
So why don't you just take overand tell the listeners kind of
who you are and what you're allabout?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Sure.
So, as you said in the bio, Iam a coach and I'm specifically
for working homeschool moms,which is quite a kind of
different thing, and let me tellyou a little bit why that is.
So when I started out in 2017,I would go onto social media and
I would see all you knowhomeschool moms with these, you
know wonderful lessons andoutside all the time, and I was
(01:57):
like my homeschool doesn't looklike that at all, because when
you have to work and homeschool,it's a whole different ball
game.
And, that being said, so manywomen are work.
You know who are homeschoolingor considering homeschooling
have to work as well.
So that's why I was like youknow what I want people to feel,
like you know that they areseen and that they can manage to
(02:22):
do all these things to work andto homeschool at the same time.
And, yes, it is definitelyintimidating at the beginning.
I totally get that because itis a lot to take on.
So if you're a working mom andyou're like, okay, I'm going to
add on this extra, like really,really huge thing into my day, a
lot of moms are like, oh, I'mnot sure if I can do that, but
it is definitely possible.
(02:43):
It's definitely possible, it'sdefinitely attainable and I
would love for you to know, likeas somebody who may be
considered it in the future whatis like the thing that's really
intimidating you.
I think that would be a goodstarting point that I could kind
of address that particulardoubt.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, I mean I think you kind of hit the nail on the
head there.
It's the time right the six toseven, sometimes eight hours
that my kids are away.
I get so much done and then Ifeel like I have more time to be
with them when they are hereand so it's trying to figure out
, like how do I fit in theirhomeschooling lessons and still
(03:19):
have the, maybe the mental breakthat I need be able to get to
the gym, do all the things thatI do when they're at school and
I'm able to work kind of aroundthat and not find myself kind of
working until midnight everysingle night while they're
sleeping.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes.
So all those are really reallyvery valid doubts and I totally
get why that could potentiallyput you off, but there are some
ways to overcome that.
So I think, first of all, Iknow you talk a lot about
mindset as well, so I think themindset has to be right before
you go into something like this.
Homeschooling has to be apriority for you, because you're
(03:55):
always going to find time forthe things that are important to
you and obviously you find theenergy for things that are
important to you and so like forus.
We started homeschooling becausemy kids had a really, really
traumatic time at school.
So you know, that's always beenmy why I'm like you know their
neurodivergence.
They were bullied and I waslike, no, I don't want this.
So that's really given me a lotof motivation.
(04:16):
So I think motivation isdefinitely one of the really
like key elements of being ableto fit it all in Okay.
So that's kind of the mindsetpart, key elements of being able
to fit it all in Okay.
So that's kind of the mindsetpart.
And then, practically, so Ithink something that is that
people don't realize maybe ifthey haven't homeschooled, is
(04:36):
actually the amount of time thatyou need to homeschool.
So obviously you send your kidsto school for eight hours.
So you kind of, and maybe youwent to public school and you're
like, okay, so eight hours islike a homeschooling day, six
hours is a homeschooling day,but the actual book learning,
where you have to be like super,super present, is only, it's
like a maximum of two hours for,like, grades nine to 12.
(04:58):
If your kid is small, it's like30 minutes a day.
So the book learning aspect,you don't need to spend so much
time with them and I thinkthat's quite a like an aha
moment for a lot of moms becausethey're like, okay, I can
manage two hours a day, but if Ihave to think of managing like
working for eight hours a day,sleeping for eight hours a day
and then homeschooling for eighthours a day, I mean the maths
(05:18):
just doesn't work yeah,absolutely anything else.
So that's the one thing, andthen also, I think, the idea of
so you've got the motivation,you don't need to homeschool
that much.
Then it's also kind ofunlearning all the things you
know about education.
So we know that it, or we feelthat education should happen.
It's at certain times, like,let's say eight until three,
(05:42):
like let's say eight until three, but you could I mean there's
so much flexibility that youcould be homeschooling, you know
, at weekends or early in themorning, or if you work shifts,
you know in the day or at night,and things like that.
So I think it's just being opento all the possibilities and
kind of unlearning all thosethings that you thought were
education.
So we call that de-schoolingand that's a really, really
(06:04):
important part of kind ofstarting your homeschooling life
.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Absolutely.
I mean, especially because Iwas raised in like a specific
system and my kids are in thatsystem, and so I love that you
do, you learn and and reallyjust kind of break that down,
because it is kind of like oldhabits die hard, right, and so
having to break those andrelearn a whole new system, I
(06:29):
think that that's absolutelyamazing, and the time is so
small compared to what I thoughtit was, so that's really good.
Another thing that kind ofholds me back is the fact that I
do have a neurodivergentdaughter and I and both my
daughters actually have modifiedlearning plans, and so, being a
neurodivergent mother yourself,how does that play into
(06:50):
homeschooling?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yes, that is.
I know it can add an extra,extra layer of intimidation.
I totally get that.
But so I guess it kind of goesto the school system In South
Africa.
The school system is not set upfor neurodivergent kids, so it
was kind of the only option wehad.
But I don't think it's just us.
I mean, I know many people inthe US as well have a very
(07:13):
similar experience where, like,the schooling system just wasn't
able to accommodate their child.
You know, it just dependsspecifically where you are in
the country.
It's much like here where youare, you know what school, how
much you can afford, all thosekind of things.
So homeschooling was a really,really, really good solution for
us.
Schooling was a really, really,really good solution for us and
(07:37):
my kids have thrived becausethey the school situation was
just too much.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
There was too much noise, exactly, totally
overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You know they had to.
You know you have to tick allthe boxes and meet all these
milestones and if you don't, youknow there's something wrong
with your child.
They get othered and thingslike that.
But we can offer them likesupport and education and in a
way that suits their learningstyle.
And yeah, so that's.
It's really really worked outvery well for us, and I know
(08:05):
many, many people withneurodivergent kids to have very
similar stories as well.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, and do you have specific programs or resources
so that we, like, as anon-teacher, figuring out what
systems work?
I feel like would be a lot oftrial and error.
Do you find that that's yourexperience?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Absolutely.
And I think you need to be opento that trial and error, though,
as well.
And, like I said, you knowyou're unlearning all those
kinds of things maybe kids uselike workbooks or whatever, but
the thing is, nowadays there areso many options out there it's
almost like it's like too manyoptions.
Okay, so it's like it's areally good time to homeschool,
(08:46):
because there are just so manythings out there to help like,
and if you can kind of de-schoolyourself of what education
should look like, then you canstart creating this learning
environment that's really goingto work for your child.
That's going to work for you asa working mom, as a busy mom,
as a mom who needs time as well.
So, yes, it could be online.
(09:07):
We only do online books.
I don't know there are co-ops.
There are.
You know you could have a tutor.
There are so many options outthere.
I think, yes, trial and error,and you have to be open to that
trial and error as well, becauseit can take some time to figure
out what works.
But once you do and once youtest, if you're open to testing
and tweaking, you can reallycreate something like amazing
(09:30):
for your child.
That's really, really going tohelp them to thrive.
That's going to suit them, thatit's, you know.
That's just going to give themeverything they need in terms of
education.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I love that so much.
Yeah, I mean, you've definitelygiven me a lot to think about.
So when you're working withmoms and kind of getting these
programs started, what does thatlook like for you?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
well.
So I think the important thingis it's like so I, I do a kind
of one-on-one and I think theimportant thing is that
everybody's situation is likereally, really unique.
So you need to kind of get intothat aspect of coaching.
I think it's really because,you know, it's like a working
mom who's homeschooling, it's ahomeschooling mom who wants to
(10:15):
start working.
It's, you know, somebody whosesituation has changed.
It's somebody who has littlekids, somebody who has, you know
, high school kids, which is awhole another ball game as well.
So there's just so many things.
I think it's really importantto get into the unique kind of
story of each working homeschoolmom and then to just give her
the tools to feel confidence.
(10:36):
And a lot of it is mindsetstuff, like, and, like I said, I
know you, you work a lot withmy mindset is such a huge part
of of doing something which is,I guess, in theory, quite
unusual or maybe quite strange,you know out of the box.
Yeah, exactly overcome societal,societal expectations, overcome
(10:57):
expectations from your family,unlearn all the things that you
think education should be, andthen just like being brave
enough to take that step,accepting if you mess up because
it's going to be messy.
That's why I talk about, likethe messy beginning it can be so
messy everything you know, toforgive yourself, to learn, to
have a growth mindset, to beopen to, like you know, just
(11:20):
learning and learning andself-development and yeah, so I
mean that's all those kinds oftools I think are so important
when you know, when you'retrying to help a mom take that
first step so she can feelconfident, so she can feel
supported.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, absolutely so.
In terms of like geography, youand I probably couldn't live
further apart from one another.
Does that play into yourability to coach women, or do
you help them like anybody allover the world?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
everybody all over the world because I think the
the doubts okay.
So obviously everybody has avery unique situation, but the
doubts are very similar.
People are like I can't do it,I don't't have time.
You know, my partner says no,society says this is the wrong
way to do it.
You know, I doubt that I'm ableto.
For example, you know,homeschool are motivated.
(12:07):
If it's something that youreally really really want to do,
that you can do it.
And here are some tools tofigure out the time to.
You know, to work on yourmindset, to overcome those
(12:28):
doubts and things like that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I love that.
And so when you get startedwith women, what like?
How long are you working withthem?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, it really depends.
It really depends because Ithink it's.
It really is like I don't havea set program.
I'm so flexible because I think, like I said, everything
everybody's has a very uniquesituation.
Sometimes somebody will just belike, hey, I just want half an
hour to like talk this out.
You know, and I mean sometimesthat's all somebody needs.
I'm like, you know, take, Ithink you've got this all to
(12:57):
take a leap of faith.
But sometimes you will need abit more support, you know,
because things often change.
You know the first, like it'sthe first, let's say, zero to
three years, can be really tough.
So during that time, you knowthe beginning is tough, and then
maybe those three years canalso be, as you're still trying
to find your groove and thingslike that, and it can get
(13:17):
frustrating, like why is thisnot working yet?
You know it's a, yeah, it's a,it's a process, definitely, and
women need support along thatjourney.
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, I mean, I think that that's really wonderful
and, like most things in life,there isn't a one size fits all,
so it's great that you canaccommodate that and work with
people all over the world, so Ithink that's really cool.
You get a really big insight asto the different school systems
and what those kind ofgeographical maybe setbacks or
hold downs are, so I thinkthat's really cool.
(13:50):
If you had one piece of advicefor the moms out there that are
either in homeschooling orconsidering homeschooling, what
would that be?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
well, I would say, if you okay, I have quite a few,
let me just okay.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, I mean feel free to share a few yeah, sure,
okay.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So I think the important, the one of the most
important things, is to bereally really open, and it can
be hard.
I mean it's easy to say youknow, be like open to everything
you know, unlearn everythingyou ever knew about school.
It can be hard, but it is sucha vital part to having a
successful homeschool because itmeans that you can do things
(14:29):
that seem unusual or strange toyou but that really really work
for your child and that reallymean that you can, for example,
work and homeschool at the sametime, that you can fit
homeschooling in your life.
So be really, really open.
And then I think, like tons andtons and tons of
self-acceptance.
Self-love is also important,because it can be hard, it can
(14:51):
be tough and you're going tomess up sometimes, but you know
you are doing an amazing job ifyou've decided to do this and
you have to give yourself somegrace definitely.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean it's definitely important when the
when the world kind of shut downand we got a little taste of
homeschooling and I had to wearthose teacher hats.
I know it's very, verydifferent and I you know, when
you're trying to follow somebodyelse's curriculum and their
lesson plans and you're wearinga parent hat and a teacher hat
at the same time.
So I get that it was verydifferent.
But I feel like that definitelyplayed into a lot more of my
(15:22):
hesitation because I was like Idon't want my kids yelling at me
over school stuff when I'm nottechnically their teacher.
So I think a lot of grace andjust self-love is a very
important tip.
So thank you so much for beinghere, charlotte.
I really appreciated getting toknow you and hearing your
insights in this, because itdefinitely is on my radar for
(15:46):
sure.
So thank you guys for tuninginto today's episode where we
help you conquer the chaos oneday at a time.
Hey, hey, mamas, welcome back to Conquering Chaos
A Mom's Guide to Self-CareInsanity.
I'm your host, sydney Crow, andtoday we have Charlotte Jones.
Charlotte Jones lives in sunnySouth Africa next to the ocean,
with her husband, neurodivergenttwin boys and two mini
dachshunds.
She's been a working homeschoolmom since 2017 and absolutely
(00:21):
loves it.
As a coach.
And the creator of my LittleHomeschool and the Strike a
Balance podcast for workinghomeschool moms, she helps new
working homeschool moms figureout the messy beginning so that
they can take their first stepsto feeling confident and
supported.
Welcome, charlotte.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Thank you so much.
It's wonderful to be here today.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm really excited for this podcast.
So you are my secondhomeschooling coach mom that
I've had on the podcast and I'mjust so intrigued by this
because homeschooling for mealways feels like this kind of
unattainable goal.
Both my kids love thesocialization.
(01:04):
I love the break that I get.
I always find that summer isour hardest season of life, when
we are not in routine and notin schedule.
But the idea of being able totravel and have that freedom and
independence is like this maybeone day goal I have out there.
So I'm sure you are going tohave loads of information for me
(01:26):
and anybody else that isconsidering this.
So why don't you just take overand tell the listeners kind of
who you are and what you're allabout?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Sure.
So, as you said in the bio, Iam a coach and I'm specifically
for working homeschool moms,which is quite a kind of
different thing, and let me tellyou a little bit why that is.
So when I started out in 2017,I would go onto social media and
I would see all you knowhomeschool moms with these, you
know wonderful lessons andoutside all the time, and I was
(01:57):
like my homeschool doesn't looklike that at all, because when
you have to work and homeschool,it's a whole different ball
game.
And, that being said, so manywomen are work.
You know who are homeschoolingor considering homeschooling
have to work as well.
So that's why I was like youknow what I want people to feel,
like you know that they areseen and that they can manage to
(02:22):
do all these things to work andto homeschool at the same time.
And, yes, it is definitelyintimidating at the beginning.
I totally get that because itis a lot to take on.
So if you're a working mom andyou're like, okay, I'm going to
add on this extra, like really,really huge thing into my day, a
lot of moms are like, oh, I'mnot sure if I can do that, but
it is definitely possible.
(02:43):
It's definitely possible, it'sdefinitely attainable and I
would love for you to know, likeas somebody who may be
considered it in the future whatis like the thing that's really
intimidating you.
I think that would be a goodstarting point that I could kind
of address that particulardoubt.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, I mean I think you kind of hit the nail on the
head there.
It's the time right the six toseven, sometimes eight hours
that my kids are away.
I get so much done and then Ifeel like I have more time to be
with them when they are hereand so it's trying to figure out
, like how do I fit in theirhomeschooling lessons and still
(03:19):
have the, maybe the mental breakthat I need be able to get to
the gym, do all the things thatI do when they're at school and
I'm able to work kind of aroundthat and not find myself kind of
working until midnight everysingle night while they're
sleeping.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes.
So all those are really reallyvery valid doubts and I totally
get why that could potentiallyput you off, but there are some
ways to overcome that.
So I think, first of all, Iknow you talk a lot about
mindset as well, so I think themindset has to be right before
you go into something like this.
Homeschooling has to be apriority for you, because you're
(03:55):
always going to find time forthe things that are important to
you and obviously you find theenergy for things that are
important to you and so like forus.
We started homeschooling becausemy kids had a really, really
traumatic time at school.
So you know, that's always beenmy why I'm like you know their
neurodivergence.
They were bullied and I waslike, no, I don't want this.
So that's really given me a lotof motivation.
(04:16):
So I think motivation isdefinitely one of the really
like key elements of being ableto fit it all in Okay.
So that's kind of the mindsetpart, key elements of being able
to fit it all in Okay.
So that's kind of the mindsetpart.
And then, practically, so Ithink something that is that
people don't realize maybe ifthey haven't homeschooled, is
(04:36):
actually the amount of time thatyou need to homeschool.
So obviously you send your kidsto school for eight hours.
So you kind of, and maybe youwent to public school and you're
like, okay, so eight hours islike a homeschooling day, six
hours is a homeschooling day,but the actual book learning,
where you have to be like super,super present, is only, it's
like a maximum of two hours for,like, grades nine to 12.
(04:58):
If your kid is small, it's like30 minutes a day.
So the book learning aspect,you don't need to spend so much
time with them and I thinkthat's quite a like an aha
moment for a lot of moms becausethey're like, okay, I can
manage two hours a day, but if Ihave to think of managing like
working for eight hours a day,sleeping for eight hours a day
and then homeschooling for eighthours a day, I mean the maths
(05:18):
just doesn't work yeah,absolutely anything else.
So that's the one thing, andthen also, I think, the idea of
so you've got the motivation,you don't need to homeschool
that much.
Then it's also kind ofunlearning all the things you
know about education.
So we know that it, or we feelthat education should happen.
It's at certain times, like,let's say eight until three,
(05:42):
like let's say eight until three, but you could I mean there's
so much flexibility that youcould be homeschooling, you know
, at weekends or early in themorning, or if you work shifts,
you know in the day or at night,and things like that.
So I think it's just being opento all the possibilities and
kind of unlearning all thosethings that you thought were
education.
So we call that de-schoolingand that's a really, really
(06:04):
important part of kind ofstarting your homeschooling life
.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Absolutely.
I mean, especially because Iwas raised in like a specific
system and my kids are in thatsystem, and so I love that you
do, you learn and and reallyjust kind of break that down,
because it is kind of like oldhabits die hard, right, and so
having to break those andrelearn a whole new system, I
(06:29):
think that that's absolutelyamazing, and the time is so
small compared to what I thoughtit was, so that's really good.
Another thing that kind ofholds me back is the fact that I
do have a neurodivergentdaughter and I and both my
daughters actually have modifiedlearning plans, and so, being a
neurodivergent mother yourself,how does that play into
(06:50):
homeschooling?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yes, that is.
I know it can add an extra,extra layer of intimidation.
I totally get that.
But so I guess it kind of goesto the school system In South
Africa.
The school system is not set upfor neurodivergent kids, so it
was kind of the only option wehad.
But I don't think it's just us.
I mean, I know many people inthe US as well have a very
(07:13):
similar experience where, like,the schooling system just wasn't
able to accommodate their child.
You know, it just dependsspecifically where you are in
the country.
It's much like here where youare, you know what school, how
much you can afford, all thosekind of things.
So homeschooling was a really,really, really good solution for
us.
Schooling was a really, really,really good solution for us and
(07:37):
my kids have thrived becausethey the school situation was
just too much.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
There was too much noise, exactly, totally
overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You know they had to.
You know you have to tick allthe boxes and meet all these
milestones and if you don't, youknow there's something wrong
with your child.
They get othered and thingslike that.
But we can offer them likesupport and education and in a
way that suits their learningstyle.
And yeah, so that's.
It's really really worked outvery well for us, and I know
(08:05):
many, many people withneurodivergent kids to have very
similar stories as well.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, and do you have specific programs or resources
so that we, like, as anon-teacher, figuring out what
systems work?
I feel like would be a lot oftrial and error.
Do you find that that's yourexperience?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Absolutely.
And I think you need to be opento that trial and error, though,
as well.
And, like I said, you knowyou're unlearning all those
kinds of things maybe kids uselike workbooks or whatever, but
the thing is, nowadays there areso many options out there it's
almost like it's like too manyoptions.
Okay, so it's like it's areally good time to homeschool,
(08:46):
because there are just so manythings out there to help like,
and if you can kind of de-schoolyourself of what education
should look like, then you canstart creating this learning
environment that's really goingto work for your child.
That's going to work for you asa working mom, as a busy mom,
as a mom who needs time as well.
So, yes, it could be online.
(09:07):
We only do online books.
I don't know there are co-ops.
There are.
You know you could have a tutor.
There are so many options outthere.
I think, yes, trial and error,and you have to be open to that
trial and error as well, becauseit can take some time to figure
out what works.
But once you do and once youtest, if you're open to testing
and tweaking, you can reallycreate something like amazing
(09:30):
for your child.
That's really, really going tohelp them to thrive.
That's going to suit them, thatit's, you know.
That's just going to give themeverything they need in terms of
education.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I love that so much.
Yeah, I mean, you've definitelygiven me a lot to think about.
So when you're working withmoms and kind of getting these
programs started, what does thatlook like for you?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
well.
So I think the important thingis it's like so I, I do a kind
of one-on-one and I think theimportant thing is that
everybody's situation is likereally, really unique.
So you need to kind of get intothat aspect of coaching.
I think it's really because,you know, it's like a working
mom who's homeschooling, it's ahomeschooling mom who wants to
(10:15):
start working.
It's, you know, somebody whosesituation has changed.
It's somebody who has littlekids, somebody who has, you know
, high school kids, which is awhole another ball game as well.
So there's just so many things.
I think it's really importantto get into the unique kind of
story of each working homeschoolmom and then to just give her
the tools to feel confidence.
(10:36):
And a lot of it is mindsetstuff, like, and, like I said, I
know you, you work a lot withmy mindset is such a huge part
of of doing something which is,I guess, in theory, quite
unusual or maybe quite strange,you know out of the box.
Yeah, exactly overcome societal,societal expectations, overcome
(10:57):
expectations from your family,unlearn all the things that you
think education should be, andthen just like being brave
enough to take that step,accepting if you mess up because
it's going to be messy.
That's why I talk about, likethe messy beginning it can be so
messy everything you know, toforgive yourself, to learn, to
have a growth mindset, to beopen to, like you know, just
(11:20):
learning and learning andself-development and yeah, so I
mean that's all those kinds oftools I think are so important
when you know, when you'retrying to help a mom take that
first step so she can feelconfident, so she can feel
supported.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, absolutely so.
In terms of like geography, youand I probably couldn't live
further apart from one another.
Does that play into yourability to coach women, or do
you help them like anybody allover the world?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
everybody all over the world because I think the
the doubts okay.
So obviously everybody has avery unique situation, but the
doubts are very similar.
People are like I can't do it,I don't't have time.
You know, my partner says no,society says this is the wrong
way to do it.
You know, I doubt that I'm ableto.
For example, you know,homeschool are motivated.
(12:07):
If it's something that youreally really really want to do,
that you can do it.
And here are some tools tofigure out the time to.
You know, to work on yourmindset, to overcome those
(12:28):
doubts and things like that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I love that.
And so when you get startedwith women, what like?
How long are you working withthem?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, it really depends.
It really depends because Ithink it's.
It really is like I don't havea set program.
I'm so flexible because I think, like I said, everything
everybody's has a very uniquesituation.
Sometimes somebody will just belike, hey, I just want half an
hour to like talk this out.
You know, and I mean sometimesthat's all somebody needs.
I'm like, you know, take, Ithink you've got this all to
(12:57):
take a leap of faith.
But sometimes you will need abit more support, you know,
because things often change.
You know the first, like it'sthe first, let's say, zero to
three years, can be really tough.
So during that time, you knowthe beginning is tough, and then
maybe those three years canalso be, as you're still trying
to find your groove and thingslike that, and it can get
(13:17):
frustrating, like why is thisnot working yet?
You know it's a, yeah, it's a,it's a process, definitely, and
women need support along thatjourney.
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, I mean, I think that that's really wonderful
and, like most things in life,there isn't a one size fits all,
so it's great that you canaccommodate that and work with
people all over the world, so Ithink that's really cool.
You get a really big insight asto the different school systems
and what those kind ofgeographical maybe setbacks or
hold downs are, so I thinkthat's really cool.
(13:50):
If you had one piece of advicefor the moms out there that are
either in homeschooling orconsidering homeschooling, what
would that be?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
well, I would say, if you okay, I have quite a few,
let me just okay.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, I mean feel free to share a few yeah, sure,
okay.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So I think the important, the one of the most
important things, is to bereally really open, and it can
be hard.
I mean it's easy to say youknow, be like open to everything
you know, unlearn everythingyou ever knew about school.
It can be hard, but it is sucha vital part to having a
successful homeschool because itmeans that you can do things
(14:29):
that seem unusual or strange toyou but that really really work
for your child and that reallymean that you can, for example,
work and homeschool at the sametime, that you can fit
homeschooling in your life.
So be really, really open.
And then I think, like tons andtons and tons of
self-acceptance.
Self-love is also important,because it can be hard, it can
(14:51):
be tough and you're going tomess up sometimes, but you know
you are doing an amazing job ifyou've decided to do this and
you have to give yourself somegrace definitely.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean it's definitely important when the
when the world kind of shut downand we got a little taste of
homeschooling and I had to wearthose teacher hats.
I know it's very, verydifferent and I you know, when
you're trying to follow somebodyelse's curriculum and their
lesson plans and you're wearinga parent hat and a teacher hat
at the same time.
So I get that it was verydifferent.
But I feel like that definitelyplayed into a lot more of my
(15:22):
hesitation because I was like Idon't want my kids yelling at me
over school stuff when I'm nottechnically their teacher.
So I think a lot of grace andjust self-love is a very
important tip.
So thank you so much for beinghere, charlotte.
I really appreciated getting toknow you and hearing your
insights in this, because itdefinitely is on my radar for
(15:46):
sure.
So thank you guys for tuninginto today's episode where we
help you conquer the chaos oneday at a time.
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