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"$awbuck" Mike (00:01):
The Nephilim
sightings are going to start
soon.
"Headhunter" Higg (00:04):
Consciousness
has been enslaved.
"$awbuck" Mike (00:06):
Your
consciousness does not need your
physical body to survive.
It's the thing that's necessary.
It has to be there.
It's the coding that projectsthis world we currently live in.
Pat Miletich (00:18):
I want you to read
the Bible.
"$awbuck" Mike (00:19):
We got
reptilians just outside of our
frequency zone.
"Headhunter" Higgins (00:22):
Six
dimensional beings, the ancient
builder race.
Pat Miletich (00:26):
Ideas are the
highest form of intelligence,
and that leads you to truth andclarity.
"$awbuck" Mike (00:30):
The Nephilim
sightings are going to stall
soon.
Conspiracy show.
It's obvious the aliens aregod-fearing and insanely huge.
"Headhunter" Higgins (00:37):
We're just
one planet.
They would have needed aminimum of six feet of lead
shielding in order to getthrough the 25,000 mile thick of
nl and radiation belt.
This is real.
They really did fake the moon.
The world is infinitely olderthan that, and I mean the world
with human beings in it, skulland bones, is like one of the
villains in the legion of doom.
They said I'll let you read thebible, the biblical flood, the
(01:00):
tartaria mud flood conspiracyand chill the nephilim sightings
are going to stall soon.
The bulldog ball I don't wantyou to read the bible.
There's magnets in thebasketballs.
There was a political party, athird party called the
anti-masonic party, at a pointin uh in the united states, the
(01:34):
global pandemic treatyconspiracy and chill podcast,
pat militich.
Pat Miletich (01:38):
If you don't know
who Conspiracy and Chill Podcast
run the gambit of it.
So uh, welcome pat.
We appreciate you being on theshow, brother.
"Headhunter" Higgins (01:44):
Thank you
definitely, and uh, it's funny
because it's a kind of an oldtale as well, if you think about
it too.
Uh, a legendary warrior retiresto become a farmer, that's.
That's a tale as old as timewell it's.
"$awbuck" Mike (01:56):
You know what I
guess what it comes down to is
just, I grew up, my wholechildhood was plagued by
respiratory illness and otherillnesses, and and so I was
frustrated because I startedwrestling in God what,
kindergarten, first grade.
And I wanted to be.
You know, I wanted to be agreat wrestler and you know I
got to where I was good, I beata lot of really really good
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wrestlers and, you know, wouldplace in the state championships
in Iowa and stuff.
But it just came down to couldI breathe that day or not, many
times.
And so, as I got older, into my20s, I was getting ready to
turn pro in kickboxing at thetime and I was just sick of not
being able to breathe.
And so I started doing a lot ofresearch and came up and
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formulated a combination ofantioxidants that I could put in
my body, concentrated nutrientsand, uh, and it took 10 days
for my respiratory system toheal and all my, all my health
issues, to go away fromsomething that I've experienced
my entire life, Right?
So, um, that turned on a lightbulb for me and, you know,
because I went from kind of whatit felt like the best way to
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explain it, as breathing througha straw full of mucus my entire
life to suddenly breathingthrough a giant crystal clear
PVC tube.
And I could do anythingathletically I wanted to.
I was out running collegecross-country teams, I was
benching 375.
I was dunking basketballs at5'10".
I was doing all kinds of crazyshit and won a world title in
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the UFC all that good stuff.
And then I started using thosesame formulas for my athletes
and that's what you know took.
I took guys who were alreadyreally good athletes and who
weren't sick like I was andturned them into monsters and so
they could train likepsychopaths every day and come
back, you know, not sore, ableto operate at a very high level
and just almost invincible levelof human performance.
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And then I started looking athuman health in general and
researching a lot of that andrealizing that it was the
environment that was causing.
It's not our genetics, it'snothing else than just like a
plant.
If you look at a plant and it'sdying, we always look at the
environment.
Not enough water, too muchwater, not enough nutrients,
some toxins got into the soil,whatever sun, so it's always the
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environment with plants.
It's the exact same thing withhumans and most people aren't
aware of that because they'retold by the medical community
that well, is there a history ofheart disease in your family?
Well, genetically, when itcomes to genetics, we're going
to express different forms ofinflammation in different ways.
So for you guys, it couldmanifest in digestive issues or
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arthritis, For me, it wasrespiratory.
So that's where the geneticscome into play in terms of you
know all the synthetic chemicalsand heavy metals in our
environment, so that's kind ofbeen that then transferred,
transferred over to agriculture,and lo and behold, healing the
soil is the exact same thing ashealing the human body wow, and
you said during your fightcareers when you discovered that
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and you took those antioxidantsso you were dealing with like
the, the mucus and therespiratory infections for like
a good part of your career as Iwas getting ready to turn pro in
kickboxing was when I decidedto do all the research and get
that all figured out, and so Iwent from sparring three to four
rounds with the best pound forpound boxer in the world,
Michael Nunn.
at the time I last three to fourrounds before I couldn't
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breathe anymore to 10 to 12rounds in 10 days.
But that's the kind of stuffthat we focus on for human
performance, health, all the wayto soil health and everything
in between.
I mean again, healing soil andhealing human beings is
literally the same recipe.
Besides, you know, throwingsome manure down for nutrients.
Pat Miletich (05:35):
You mentioned a
couple times your fighters, your
athletes.
For people who don't knowmilitary fighting systems,
everybody pretty much agrees youwere the first kind of mixed
martial arts big camp with elitelevel training and athletes.
You were so far ahead of thecurve.
Do you feel that you get thecredit you deserve there?
Honestly, I don't feel that youdo.
"$awbuck" Mike (05:57):
Ultimately?
I mean, what do I want?
You know, a couple milliondollars for my accomplishments?
Well, that would have beengreat.
But you know, have been great.
But that's not how shit worksIf we go back to
turn-of-the-century stuff FarmerBurns, gotch, good old Billy
Wicks, a lot of these guys myuncle, my great-uncle, back in
the 20s and early 30s was acatch-as-catch-can guy who used
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to travel to state fairs andcarnivals and the uh.
Back then.
This carnival strongman woulddo feats of strength and then
they'd challenge anybody in thecrowd to come and box them or or
wrestle with them, right, andso my great uncle used to travel
uh to those carnivals and andfairs and stuff just to beat
them up.
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That's what he did, and so theywould do their feats of
strength.
They'd go who wants to come upand challenge me?
And my uncle would go up thereand beat the hell out of them.
He ended up on the 32 Olympicboxing team and did not medal in
the Olympics but became thenumber one light heavyweight in
the world.
Fought Maxi Rosenblum twice forthe world title.
Heavyweight in the world.
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Fought maxi rosenblum twice forthe world title.
What he had?
A split, a split decision lossand a draw with, uh, with maxi,
uh, both times, and both timesthe crowds rioted because my
uncle beat his ass and uh, youknow, of course the mob ran
boxing back in those days.
So but, uh, there's a.
I've got an old newspaper ormagazine from god, I can't
remember what year it's from,but it's got pictures of my
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uncle and primo carnera in miami.
Uh, primo carnera was trying towork on his speed apparently.
So they brought my uncle downto miami, uh, for his, for his
training camp, and the guy thatwrote the article said johnny
milotic pushed enough leatherinto primo carnera's face to
shoe the Italian army.
So it was pretty cool.
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But my great-uncle changed hislast name from Miletic to Myler
for his fights because he didn'twant his mother to know that he
was fighting.
Wow, yeah, so it's M-I-L-E-R.
Johnny Myler, and he had a lotof injuries and stuff like that
that plagued later on in hiscareer.
But but the guy was an absolutebadass back at back in the day
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for a way to make a living.
"Headhunter" Higgins (08:10):
And I
gotta ask was he a farmer?
Was he a farmer like?
"$awbuck" Mike (08:14):
guys.
Well, my, my family, uh,immigrated from Croatia, the
west northwest part of Croatia,which is coal mining and
agriculture.
So you know, when they got tothe island there in new york,
they would ask the immigrants,you know where'd you come from,
what'd you do, what were theindustries, all those sort of
things?
And then they'd tell theimmigrants where to go, because
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that's, you know, the best placeto put you.
If you're going to be, uh,contributing to a nation and the
development of a nation and allof that stuff and be useful,
you're gonna you to get sentwhere you go.
And so Southern Iowa was big,obviously agriculture, and back
then there was coal mining aswell.
So that's where they all endedup.
"Headhunter" Higgins (08:52):
Two rugged
lines of work for rugged
fighters and wrestlers for sure.
"$awbuck" Mike (08:57):
Yeah, you know,
and back in the day and you look
at you know just, I rememberwhen I was younger, the strength
of the older guys you know 60s,70s, even into their 80s, very,
very powerful, because thenutrients were still very rich
in the soil when they were.
You know growing up anddeveloping genetically and all
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of that stuff, and so you cansee I'm old enough to be able to
tell in society now the geneticchange in men and women, boys
and girls.
You know what's been donethrough these chemicals in our
environment to you know lowerhormonal testosterone levels.
You know all kinds of havoc hasbeen wreaked on the human
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organism and our environment ofcourse, through all of these
chemicals.
And it really can't be byaccident when you pair it with a
multi-billion dollarpsychological operation that has
its own flag and movement right.
Pat Miletich (09:55):
Who do you think
is ultimately behind it?
Because Tom and I, we couldn't.
I don't want to speak for Tom,but I think he does feel the
same way.
We couldn't agree more with youon all of the changes in both
men and women and how, justincreasingly, our food has
become more toxic.
And who do you think is behindthat?
I mean, maybe you don't know,but what's your best guess?
"$awbuck" Mike (10:17):
Well, it's the
same bloodlines that have always
been in control of this planet.
I mean, who's always controlledthe monetary systems?
I mean, you can go backthousands of years, planet.
I mean, who's always controlledthe monetary systems?
I mean, you can go backthousands of years.
It's the exact same bloodlines,right?
So that's really what thiscomes down to is.
You know, nations don't matter,they're all over the place once
you control the monetary system,you control policies, you
control politicians, you controlpretty much everything.
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So that's really kind of howhow policies are handed down, uh
, how things are implemented,and you know, so that apparatus
is something that is it'sdifficult to combat.
But you know, my main thing isthis is that, from government
employees to you know,environmental experts to
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agriculture experts to you knowall these different people, when
we talk about the real science,about soil health, for instance
, a lot of people aren't aware avast majority of Americans
aren't aware that through theuse of these chemicals, we've
basically mass murdered all themicroorganisms in the soil that
are responsible for convertinghazardous materials.
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I mean, heavy metals have beenaround since the beginning of
time, right, heavy metals aredetrimental to our health, I
mean, it's just a fact.
But those microorganisms arethe only thing on the planet
that can ingest and convertheavy metal molecules and
convert them to colloidalnutrients, colloidal forms of
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minerals, right, which basicallythe best way to scientifically
explain that is.
They strip the oxygen moleculeoff and put a carbon molecule on
.
Now your mitochondria can burnit as fuel to generate cellular
energy.
So instead of it being, youknow, a free radical that causes
massive cellular andmitochondrial disruption, it is
actually carbon bonded and itcan be used by the human body,
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the cell and the mitochondria tocreate immune function, so that
we're not vulnerable to all thethings that our bodies and
environment are already full of.
I mean, we're 10 human and 90good bugs and bad bugs.
The reason you and I are notsick is because our immune
functions right now areoperating pretty well, so the
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good and the bad are at abalance.
That's homeostasis, right, andthat's the goal for the soil.
We create homeostasis in thesoil and that creates an immune
system for the crops.
Therefore, the failedantibiotics, herbicides,
pesticides and fungicides don'tneed to be used because the
plants fend for themselves, andthen that goes up the food chain
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to whether it's our cattle,chickens, hogs, us that are
ingesting those nutrients, andthen they end up creating an
immune system for us and wherewe can fend for ourselves.
Pat Miletich (12:58):
And so, just to be
clear, they are removing all of
these, the good nutrients,these good microorganisms that
they're trying to remove, andthey're being very successful
taking these out of the naturallife cycle.
That, in turn, it strips themfrom it and then it harms us, is
that correct?
"$awbuck" Mike (13:17):
Well, basically
it's this we have almost a
billion acres of agriculturesoil.
Most of that, obviously, hasbeen pounded for 50 plus years
with chemicals, right, it's notlike they just started.
This has been 50 years ofpounding our soil, our
environment and us with thesechemicals.
You know.
And so if you go to, you knowI've had conversations at
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agronomy departments atuniversities and they don't know
what I'm talking about half thetime.
They really don't know what I'mtalking about and they're
confused.
They don't know the difference.
They're not teaching a lot oftimes organic chemistry to a lot
of people so they don'tunderstand the difference
between a heavy metal and acolloidal metal.
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You know, one that's got oxygenmolecule, one one that's got
carbon.
So when say, for instance, thefolks at the FDA measure the
metals in a substance, it willsay, well, it's too high in
aluminum.
Well, it's all carbon-bondedaluminum, which is actually very
beneficial for every organismon this planet.
Organic forms, carbon-bondedarsenic has been proven in
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numerous studies to absolutelydecimate certain types of cancer
, right.
So that's, that's the type ofstuff that we're talking about,
and so this, the biologicalscience you know, is very
important for for a lot ofpeople to recognize and
understand why you know moststore bought supplements, for
instance, don't move the needleat all for your performance, for
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your health, for anything.
And then you go to supplementsthat are only carried by
specific companies, that are notcommercialized, not all over in
every GNC and every storeacross the country where people
ingest these levels ofsupplements and nutrients and
all of a sudden they're runninga mile and a half or a minute
and a half faster per mile for20, 30 miles.
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You know a lot of ultra runnersthat I know that use a lot of
these high-grade nutrients.
In their 50s we'll startrunning a minute to a minute and
a half faster on a 20, 30-milerun per mile and their heart
rate goes down 30 beats a minute.
You know that's the type ofstuff we're talking about.
That's the basics of how humansare, at least at this point in
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our genetic alteration, shouldbe able to perform.
Pat Miletich (15:36):
In my mind it's
criminal that that science is
there.
We can do it and instead oftaking care of the youth or
everybody, but you know, evenprioritizing the young people
they pump them full of tic-tacand all this other bs.
It's like it never ceases toamaze me how messed up people
that are in power.
You know it just every timethey take another step and it
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just blows my mind, pat yeah,and I there's again.
"$awbuck" Mike (16:04):
There's a lot of
super intelligent people in the
agriculture industry, you know.
All I ask them to do is tounderstand this.
We understand that everythingwe all do as parents you know I
don't know if you guys have kids, but I've got three children
Everything that I've tried to dois out of love for my kids.
You know, and it's the same forall of these people in these
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different endeavors in theirlives, everybody wants to feed
their kids, they want to takecare of their children, they
want to see them grow up happy.
I want to get them off tocollege, get them off on the
right start before before theyleave the planet, right.
And so motivations are all thesame, out of love.
But with the knowledge that wehave and the work that we're
doing with the agronomists, alot of conventional farmers and
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agronomists are coming over toour side because they understand
what we're doing is creatinghuge yields, healing the soil,
not contributing to the illnessof at least the United States,
north America, and to ourchildren, eventually, who are
drinking the water from therunoff and everything else and
eating food that is just toxicas hell.
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That these people can justunderstand that we're just
rolling in a new toolbox.
Your livelihood is notthreatened at all.
You're actually going tobenefit a massive number of
farmers by switching it over tothis program.
It's a new.
It's not new, it's just wellrediscovered, let's put it that
way A toolbox that actuallyassists farmers a great deal in
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in healing their soil andgrowing great crops that that
ultimately don't need to beprotected with with chemicals.
You know they fend forthemselves.
"Headhunter" Higgins (17:40):
It's
pretty obvious at this point
that, yeah, you know, whether itwas intentional or not, a lot
of us like-minded folk tends tothink that it was intentional,
and whether it's heavy metalsbeing sprayed in the atmosphere,
which I don't know how peoplecan deny that that's happening.
It's so.
We're breathing it in, that'sfalling into the soil.
You're saying there's all thatin the soil, contaminating it
and killing the goodmicroorganisms.
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We're drinking out of plasticthat that's affecting our
hormones, like they say.
There's microplastics inpeople's blood or lungs or
whatever.
Now too, and all the food'sbeen genetically modified so,
like what you were saying before, is like the men back then, the
humans were just geneticallydifferent than they are now due
to what's you know beingconsumed and everything that's
happened.
So it's like every angle ishuman beings under attack.
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It is.
"$awbuck" Mike (18:25):
And you know
it's.
Look, think about this.
Back in the 70s is when theGreen Revolution took place.
You know the agronomists,universities, you know the
horticulturalists, theprofessors representatives for
these chemical corporations goout, they talk to farmers and
they go look at the data, lookat this sheet.
We're producing bumper crops,kicking ass.
And at that time you got toremember Nixon took us off the
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gold standard back in 71.
And there was a rush on banksfor farmers.
I remember a lot of farmerswere in big trouble not long
after that.
And so they come out with thisbrand new.
You know, hey, we got this newnitrogen, phosphorus, potassium
fertilizer for your crops.
Now, mind you, it's createdfrom motor oil, but we can
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create bumper crops and make youa lot of money.
You can get a shiny new tractorand drive a new pickup truck
and build a new house and, look,humans are susceptible to shiny
shit and money.
That's the way it is right.
So all of these farmers, allthese farmers are going awesome,
we can put this down, thisfertilizer down, and kick ass.
They didn't know what wascoming.
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So, when it comes to the vastmajority of the people that were
involved in this, they werejust participants in the
benefits, financially, that theywere going to reap.
They didn't know.
When you grow plants withsynthetic molecules, those
plants grow and have no immunesystem.
So nature is going to what Killeverything that's weak.
So everything in that soil isnature right and all the things
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that can fly onto those plantsis nature, the bugs and
everything else, the fungus.
So you've got weak plants andnow you have to disinfect like
an operating room, all the bugsand everything that could kill
your plants.
So you've got these very weakplants.
You destroy the soil, you killall life in the soil with these
chemicals so that you can getyour yield right, so that you
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can get your crops out.
So at this point now, soil dirtisn't even needed to grow plants
.
You don't need it if you'regrowing everything synthetically
right and that just goesagainst all nature and it
obviously has manifested.
All you have to do is go to amall or go to a grocery store
and just stand there and lookaround you and see the you know
the obesity, the mental problemsthat people are having, the
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physical issues that people arehaving, and you can just see the
destruction all around you.
It's undeniable what's going on.
It's not normal and people needto start speaking out and
understanding that there aresolutions.
By literally, we can just mixup our products, our
microorganisms and nutrients,put them in a sprayer, take them
out, spray the soil, convertall the toxins into essential
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fatty acids and we're off to theraces.
Pat Miletich (21:08):
And just so people
are clear, you are in Iowa, but
this situation isn't exclusiveto Iowa or the Midwest even
correct.
It's kind of all over thecountry.
"$awbuck" Mike (21:19):
Nationwide, and
Canada as well, and all NATO
countries really nationwide, andCanada as well, and all NATO
countries really they'restarting to put down these
synthetics and it's global.
It's global now.
So we've got some problems andwe're more than willing to work
with the big ag folks to helpconvert all of their synthetics
into essential fatty acids thatare then beneficial for the
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crops, grow bumper crops, healthe soil.
I mean, that's what we'retalking about.
Is they keep spouting off aboutgreen, sustainable and
essential?
Well, that's what we do.
We actually do sequester carbon, for instance.
The microbes that we put downare capable of pulling nitrogen
out of the atmosphere andconverting it to usable forms of
ammonia for the plants to use.
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So you don't even technicallyhave to put down any nitrogen at
all certainly not synthetics tobe able to grow crops.
Pat Miletich (22:10):
One of the things
you mentioned in the text
message when we were kind offiguring out what we wanted to
go over is the MNRA vaccine.
"$awbuck" Mike (22:17):
I can never get
it right.
Mrna, yes, yeah, mrna, yeah,yeah.
Pat Miletich (22:21):
That technology is
in the crops now.
"$awbuck" Mike (22:30):
Well, here's the
thing.
Obviously, they've been workingon that for some time.
You can bet your bottom dollarthat, yeah, they've perfected
that.
So a lot of bills, including mystate of Iowa.
It just passed the Senate andit's going to the House.
There's a vote coming up herevery soon where they're going to
vote to remove liability forthese big ag pharmaceutical
companies for the damage thatthey've done to human health.
Now here's the problem Afederal judge has already
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reduced the amount that they'reliable for, so that's already
set in stone.
So this bill is not for what hasalready taken place in regards
to, say, for instance,glyphosate being blamed for
cancer.
This has to do with future tobe able to put vaccines, mrna
technology, in the crops thatwill eventually, of course, be
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fed to our cattle, our chickens,our hogs and then end up in us.
So this is terrifying.
It is.
It is.
And if people weren't sogoddamn gullible or I hate to
say it greedy, people weren't sogoddamn gullible or I hate to
say it greedy that they wouldsell their own children out to a
future of Russian roulette withtheir children's health, you
know they're selling everybodydown the river, potentially by
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taking stock options or whateverit is that's going on donations
to their campaigns from thesecorporations.
This is very diabolical.
No-transcript opted out of allvaccines.
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So there are children in their30s and 40s who've never even
been sick.
They don't get the flu, theydon't get strep throat, they
don't get whooping cough, theydon't get anything.
Pat Miletich (24:20):
You mentioned
about children.
I have two of my own and Ithink that it wouldn't be so
terrifying to me if I didn'thave children of my own and
thinking about their future andjust how different it is.
Today I have an 18 year olddaughter and a 12 year old boy.
I'm 43.
It's so different just for me,and I'm sure the the same for
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you.
I'm sure you know the.
The difference is just likeJesus, how things just change
over so quickly and it's, it's,I don't know.
I don't have much hope for thefuture.
"$awbuck" Mike (24:53):
I wish I did
well, a lot of people are waking
up about what's going on.
The future is growing plants uh, the way that they need to be
grown, with these real nutrients, and uh, and healing the soil.
Otherwise, there is no futurefor their children.
"Headhunter" Higgins (25:07):
For those
who aren't farmers, you know, or
as knowledgeable as you peoplewithin the industry who are
obviously going to contributethe most.
Besides, like speaking out whatis some like a I guess foot
soldier or average person thingsthey could do to maybe detoxing
.
Is there like a special wateryou drink yourself?
Like, uh, is there nutrients orsupplements that work well?
(25:30):
Or like, how could the averageperson kind of get on board to
healing themselves that theycan't necessarily, uh, you know,
heal the soil of the nationlike you guys are?
"$awbuck" Mike (25:40):
Yeah, so we're
just getting ready to launch
another website, mineralkinglife, and that will be the
supplement that we have with themost effective antioxidant
combination I've ever seen in 35years.
Uh, that that's launching herepretty soon and people can go
and pick up those, thosecapsules, and and use that to
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pull heavy metals and synthetics, you know, out of their cells
and as well as uh, you know,improve immune function,
athletic performance this is thebest substance I've seen for
athletic performance in my life.
The endurance, the ability torecover from very intense
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workouts you know all of that.
And so immune functionaddresses athletic performance,
all the way to just not gettingthe flu.
You know it's all the samething, and so you know it is for
definitely for athletes, butit's also for those people who
can't figure out why they justdon't feel right anymore.
You know what I mean.
So it's because your cells arelacking the colloidal nutrients
(26:47):
that they've been screaming forfor God knows how long, right.
"Headhunter" Higgins (26:51):
I know I'm
definitely going to have to
check that out for sure.
"$awbuck" Mike (26:53):
I think that
you'll notice some people do go
through a detox phase while theheavy metals and synthetics are
coming out of their bodies, sosome people will get some
diarrhea because it will cleanoff your intestinal walls.
Also, feeling a little bitsluggish, a dull headache for
three, four days.
I've had some people that werevery toxic.
(27:15):
I help a lot of farmers who arearound chemicals, a lot of
people that work in industrial.
You know factories, stuff likethat.
They're full of metals, uh,where there'll be, they'll feel
in kind of feeling kind ofsluggish for even up to a couple
of weeks, but after all of thatstuff's out of their bodies, uh
, at a certain point they justgo holy shit, I didn't know I
(27:35):
could feel this good in my 30s,40s, 50s, 60s, whatever.
You know.
You'll find this interesting.
So there's a book called DeadDoctors.
Don't Lie.
I read that probably, I don'tknow 30 years ago, whatever, but
people can get that book andread and in there these parts
will always stick in my mind.
This guy did more autopsies onzoo animals and humans that died
(27:59):
of natural causes than anybodyelse on the planet and he said
every single one of them thatdied of natural causes.
Thousands of animals and humansall died from mineral
deficiencies, mineral andvitamin deficiencies.
And so when we look at men, forinstance in the book he talks
about men that grew up in thefoothills of the Himalayas the
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soil there is so full of healthynutrients that all the plants
and animals that they're eatingare supplying their bodies with
the right nutrients fordevelopment.
So, you know, we look at guys intheir 20s who are getting
testosterone treatments andeating Viagra because they can't
get a hard-on because of thechemicals and heavy metals in
their bodies from ourenvironment.
(28:39):
That's the difference, right.
And then we look at all theEastern Europeans who are
kicking the living shit out ofeverybody in the UFC right now.
What kind of soil are theyeating?
Food out of, right, and theanimals that they're eating?
Over there we're eating theplants out of the same
mineral-rich, unpolluted soil.
So those guys are developingwith massive amounts of
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testosterone.
Their tissues are much denser.
Their bone structure, ligaments, tendons, everything they're
just developing differently andmuch higher levels of
testosterone.
So they're monsters because ofwhat they're putting in their
bodies.
Pat Miletich (29:13):
That's an amazing
point.
They're monsters because ofwhat they're putting in their
bodies.
That's an amazing point.
I don't think many people haveeven given that much thought.
But I just wanted to quicklysay about the minerals and your
body being off kilter, if thatis incorrect, my daughter she
recently went through a verysevere depression bout to where
she wouldn't even get out of bed.
So we took her, you know, to.
We did all the things we'resupposed to do To her physician
(29:36):
to.
She was seeing a psychiatrist,everything.
Well, she got a full bloodpanel and it turned out Her
vitamin D was at a level 6 and Iguess we're supposed to be
somewhere at a 50.
So they prescribed her likesome super strong vitamin D pill
that she was only supposed totake once a week.
But as soon as she took it thatnight, the next day immediately
(29:59):
noticed a difference in her,and now it's been maybe a month
and a half.
I have my daughter back.
It is incredible.
It blew my mind.
"$awbuck" Mike (30:08):
Right?
Well, and we always have tolook at the you know vitamins
and minerals that you'reingesting, so depends on you
know whether they're syntheticor they are colloidal nutrients,
right.
So that's super important, aswell as the microorganisms from
the soil.
If we've got super healthy soiland we're eating plants out of
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microbial-rich soil, thosemicrobes end up in your GI tract
, your gut, and pertain to guthealth, right?
So those microorganisms aresuper, super important.
That's why unpasteurized milkwhen parents have had children
with health issues, they willgive them unpasteurized milk for
the microbial balance in theirguts and all of a sudden the
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kids get rid of whateverautoimmune issues and other
things that they're dealing with.
"Headhunter" Higgins (30:56):
That's
part of it too.
People are inside way more nowthan they ever have been in the
history of ever probably andthat obviously because you're
also not, you're not getting thenutrients from the sun or the
air, you're not out in naturewhere it is balanced.
And, like you said about theDagestanis and theis and the
mountain guys in east europebeating everyone's ass, and then
(31:17):
you got a guy like alex pereiratoo, who was basically from
like a tribe, directly lineagefrom a tribe, who, like, still
lives very much in thewilderness and the food they're
in the jungle, part of thatecosystem, so no wonder he's a
beast yeah, and I remember, uh,meeting him.
"$awbuck" Mike (31:34):
I covered his
first televised fight in the
United States and after meetinghim, shook hands with him, I
went this guy's a straight-upserial killer.
I mean, that dude is terrifying.
You know, his hands areabsolutely massive, massive, and
(31:54):
the leverage on his left hook,the mechanics of it, you know
just how dangerous that guy is.
But yeah, he grew up in thejungle.
He grew up eating, you know,stuff that was fresh out of
microbial, nutrient-rich soiland developed the way he was
supposed to.
"Headhunter" Higgins (32:09):
I'd like
to ask this too back in the wild
days of mma that you were inand fighting all over the world
and stuff, was there any uhshady, conspiratorial or just
crazy uh wild encounters oranything unexplainable that uh
happened to you in those days?
"$awbuck" Mike (32:24):
oh yeah, oh yeah
.
I mean, when we went for thedave manet and matt hughes I was
training both of those guys atthe time and we went for it's it
I think it's on youtube now the, the tournament, the entire
tournament from Kuwait that wasgiven by the Sheikh of Kuwait,
and there was no crowd really atall.
Half the gymnasium was.
(32:44):
It was stands, but with sofas,so that's where all the Dubai
Royals were sitting with theirfamilies watching the fights.
Then, on the other side of thislittle gymnasium was wooden
bleachers and that was, uh, Idon't know what team they were,
but a bunch of naval specialwarfare guys who we just started
hanging out with while we werein kuwait and it was really cool
.
So they came to the fights, butwhat we were dealing with when
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we got there was some syrianthat the sheikh sons had hired
to be the promoter, and so we'resitting there and we're getting
ready for weigh-ins and theSheikh or the Syrian goes yeah,
there's no weigh-ins.
And I went wait a minute, I go.
What do you mean?
There's no weigh-ins.
I go Barkalov, who's fromChechnya, is fucking gigantic.
(33:30):
And then there's anotherChechen there, who's an
alternate, who's supposed to befighting Amri Batesh?
Who Chechen there?
Who's an alternate, who'ssupposed to be fighting Amiri
Batesh, who trained with me aswell, from Brazil, who was at
the time the best jiu-jitsu guyin the world.
This other Chechen was massiveand I said there's no way these
guys are supposed to weigh 185pounds or under.
There's no way any of theseguys are on weight.
(33:50):
So Dave Manet brought a digitalscale and so we went to go get
his scale and the Russians, theChechens and their crew jumped
in front of the doors for us toleave the room and tried to stop
us.
And I looked at the promoterand I go here's the deal If you
don't allow for the weigh-in,we're all getting back on an
airplane and we're going backhome.
(34:10):
This tournament's done, you cango fuck yourself.
And so he told the Chechens,get out of the way, brought the
digital scale down.
The one Chechen was like 225.
He wasn't going to make weight.
Barkalov had to cut a shitloadof weight to make the tournament
.
And so the tournament's onright.
You got Carlos Newton in there,you got Matt Hughes, dave Manet
(34:32):
, jose Pelelandi, barkalov Abunch of scary guys.
It was a badass tournament, butthey had fully planned on
Barkalov winning the tournamentand Dave Manet ends up beating
Barkalov in the championship.
And after the firstquarterfinal and semifinal had
gone on, barkalov was justdestroying people and Manet had
(34:55):
beaten Carlos Newton, I believeand then a really, really tough
Russian, a very, very toughRussian.
They beat him, and so it'scoming up on Barkalov and Mane
in the championship.
Pele had knocked Matt Hughesout with a flying knee about
five minutes in I can't rememberthe round times or whatever so
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Matt was out of the tournament,first round from Pele.
But anyway, monet looks at me inthe locker room and he goes
dude, how do I beat this guy?
This guy is and he wasBarkalov's terrifying.
He was a terrifying guy and Isaid listen, here's the deal.
Every time he throws he neverthrows any feints, fakes nothing
.
When he comes, he's coming forreal.
So you've got to cover up,you've got to roll with his
(35:37):
shots and he never moves hishead.
So you just make sure you fireback.
Every time he throws a combo.
When he's done, his head'sgoing to be in the same spot and
start blasting away.
You've got to cover up and thenblast.
And so Dave did that really welland uh, ended up winning.
(35:58):
John mccarthy was the refereeactually, and uh, dave won, and
the sheik of kuwait gets in witha gold-plated belt and a 75 000
check or whatever it was, andI'm in the.
I'm in the cage, matthews is inthe cage, there's several of us
in there and hughes looks overmy shoulder up into the air
because the guys that werecoming were big, and he goes
(36:18):
watch out.
Here they come and here comeall the Chechens into the cage.
They were going to attack us inthe cage and then right behind
them came all the Naval SpecialWarfare guys, all the operators,
so they had our back.
So we were getting ready in thecage to go at it with these
Chechens and they backed downjust because they were
outnumbered.
We had all the SEALs with us aswell, but we ended up having to
(36:41):
get out of that hotel and havethe drivers take us to.
It's the Kuwait city, the hotelthat had all the artillery
round holes in it and all kindsof shit.
So we had to go to that hoteland stay there for the rest of
the time that we were there.
So it was quite interesting.
There's a lot more to the story, but that's kind of what went
(37:04):
on while we were there.
Pat Miletich (37:05):
That's a great
story.
Oh yeah, that's amazing.
You hold a very distinct honor,a very prestigious and distinct
honor too, on our show.
I believe you are the veryfirst Freemason on our show.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm almost well,unless someone wasn't truthful
to us.
But yeah, yeah.
So yeah, that's pretty cool.
"$awbuck" Mike (37:25):
Yeah, it's.
It's funny to hear a lot of theoh, they're worship Satan and
all this crazy stuff.
It's not it at all.
I mean the uh, there's bluelodge Masons and then there's
clandestine Masons.
The clandestine Masons I won'tspeak for um, blue lodge Masons
are guys that you know DanielBoone, davey, crockett, george
Washington.
You know a lot of guys that, uh, you think about Crockett and
(37:47):
Boone and Travis and all thoseguys at the Alamo.
They stood on principle.
They knew they were going todie.
They stood their ground at theAlamo and Texas was eventually
solidified, right?
So that's the kind of guys thatI read about growing up.
My grandpas were Freemasons aswell, and so that's kind of the
(38:09):
cloth that I'd like to beconsidered cut out of, you know.
Pat Miletich (38:12):
No doubt I never
realized that there was two
different sects.
I never realized that there wasclandestine and then blue.
I never realized that.
So that's very interesting.
"$awbuck" Mike (38:23):
Blue lodges are
for real masons.
Okay, real masons.
Yeah, clandestine, I would callthem the synthetic version.
"Headhunter" Higgins (38:34):
Yeah, I've
never talked to anyone who
actually was on the inside ofFreemasonry.
There's endless amount ofconspiracies related to the
Masons, but something I lookinto one of my special interests
is anything like Celtic Irishhistory is the Druids, I feel
like I've put a lot ofconnections from the Druids back
to like maybe the origins ofwhat Freemasonry or other like
(38:57):
mystic schools and stuff likethat is based on.
So is your, is the blue linepart of the Scottish right then?
Is that Scottish rightFreemasonry?
"$awbuck" Mike (39:06):
Once you're,
once you're a blue lodge Mason,
once you have reached youknowodge Mason, once you have
reached Master Mason, then youcan go laterally out from there
with all of that.
So Night Stem worked off andall of that.
"Headhunter" Higgins (39:20):
Scottish
Rite 2 was, I don't know.
Seems like an obviousconnection there to me.
But do you know any linksbetween the ancient druids and
Freemasonry?
"$awbuck" Mike (39:30):
Well, I mean,
look, the ancient mystery
schools, the knowledge.
You know we're seeing a lot ofthat stuff coming back right
Just in.
I mean God, how to build abuilding correctly?
How did they build the pyramids?
How did they build all thesemassive pyramids that they're
now discovering all over?
They thought were mountains inSerbia.
Actually turns out those arepyramids that are much bigger
(39:52):
than the pyramids in Egypt.
There's massive structureshidden in the jungles in Brazil,
all over the Amazon.
You know these ancientsocieties that existed.
Hundreds of thousands of people, you know that, lived in these
places.
So, all the way to human health, soil health, you know all
these things that have beenhidden from us.
(40:13):
These are the.
These are the real truth.
You know, the Library ofAlexandria, for instance, burned
to the ground and it supposedlyhad all the ancient knowledge
and books.
You know.
In that library you got to askyourself was the fire at the at
that library?
Was that arson?
Because a lot because a lot ofthis knowledge has been
(40:33):
deliberately hidden from us.
"Headhunter" Higgins (40:35):
Have you
heard of or looked into what
Tartaria is and some of thetheories surrounding that?
"$awbuck" Mike (40:41):
Yeah, and
pulling electricity out of the
atmosphere In relating to thetowers on a lot of these
buildings.
When you look at the giantsteel post that's into the
ground with a giant wireattached to it that goes into
the building, that's the groundfor the building.
The towers were collectingpower electricity out of the
(41:03):
ether.
You know the mercury filledball with the tower, that's what
it was for right.
You know with the uh with thetower, that's what it was for
right.
And so when we look at themicroorganisms that we use in
agriculture and the vortexmachines that we use to create
frequency and water, when we putthe microbes and the nutrients
into these vortex machines tobloom the microbes up to the
(41:26):
population that we want to toapply to the soil, that vortex
is pulling nitrogen, phosphorus,potassium, other nutrients out
of the atmosphere.
90% more oxygen goes into thatmix as well because of the
vortex that we're creating andthe frequency of the water.
And a lot of people are likethis guy's insane.
What are you talking about?
(41:46):
It's real biological science.
We can prove that we can take amixer with injectors, a regular
mixer and egg mixer, a tank forspraying product, for foliar
spraying product, and we can usea vortex and we can start them
both up and run them for 12hours and then we can do testing
(42:09):
on the contents of that waterand what's in it and we can
prove that what we're talkingabout is correct that kind of
just confirms what they mighthave been doing with the
architecture right, that's,that's incredible.
I mean the things that they usedto be able to build the
cathedrals, and you know theseancient structures.
It's, yeah, I mean and billynow I'm trying to remember his
(42:30):
name and I shouldn't forget hisname because we had him on our
show twice but we were talkingabout you know frequencies and
being able to move massiveobjects and stones through
frequencies.
And you know that's the onlyexplanation.
And he's an MIT educated rocketpropulsion scientist.
He's extremely intelligent, youknow.
I asked him, I said you knowfrom where I'm sitting.
(42:52):
Frequency is the only way theycould have moved those stones.
And he goes yeah, 100%.
So you know.
Pat Miletich (42:58):
Was that Billy
Carson?
Billy Carson, yeah, sorry, Ithink I heard part of that.
I think I heard that episode,or at least most of it, because
I know I remember hearing youtalk about that before.
"Headhunter" Higgins (43:10):
Okay.
Pat Miletich (43:10):
Kind of tying it
all together from what we're
talking about.
In the beginning, you mentionedbrazil and we talked a lot
about soil and how they'rediscovering new civilizations in
the amazon, with lidar now, andthey had supposedly or not
supposedly, they did.
I just wanted to know if youknew about the soil that they
had, amazon.
They had this super soil thatwas called terra prata and that
(43:33):
allowed them to have this crazyamount of agriculture,
essentially where thereshouldn't be able to be any.
So that's amazing.
We're working backwards, right.
"$awbuck" Mike (43:45):
Yeah, and the
terra prata soil that's Graham
Hancock talking about that,right?
You know that's graham hancocktalking about that, right?
Um, and so the terra preta soil, very nutrient rich and just
one of the components of ouragriculture mix is the most
nutrient rich, most bioavailablewater soluble fulvicemic acid
on the planet.
(44:05):
That's what I'm drinking inthis, this jet black substance.
We use a less refined versionof that in our agriculture mix.
That's one of the componentsfor it.
But those nutrients have theability to go into the cell,
assist in chelating toxins andbinding with hydrogen, creating
a lot higher oxygen levelswithin the cell, feeding the
(44:28):
mitochondria, all those sort ofthings.
Super important.
But that substance is the mostnutrient-rich substance that
I've ever found in 35 years.
And so when you combine thatwith the other components of our
ag program, you're going tocreate tomato tests that have
been done with our products.
You know 800% increase in BRICbricks ratings, which is
(44:50):
nutrients in tomatoes.
So imagine an 800% increaseuntil you've eaten a
biodynamically grown.
We're not talking organic orbeyond organic, we're talking
biodynamic programs.
When you eat a tomato that'sgrown biodynamically, or
honeydew, melon or any of thesevegetables, that's when you
realize you've been fed garbageyour entire life.
(45:12):
It's a whole different level.
Like I've I've deliberatelysliced up tomatoes and put them
down in front of people, givethem a salt and pepper shaker
and a fork and a knife and theytaste the tomatoes and go holy
shit, this tastes like it.
It's the most amazing explosionof flavor you've ever
experienced in your life.
And you go yeah, I've been fedshit my whole life.
Pat Miletich (45:35):
It's so true.
My wife for her birthday.
She wanted this mushroomgrowing kit, so I bought it for
her and she had her first yielda few days ago.
Huge mushrooms that she's justgrowing out of this, it's
amazing.
Ago, huge mushrooms that she'sjust growing out of this thing,
it's, it's amazing.
And yesterday she made stuffedmushrooms with some of the ones
(45:56):
she grew and then somestore-bought ones and, holy shit
, you could tell by the way theycooked.
I could tell you which ones werewhich by the way they looked
after they were cooked andtasting them I'm.
I never even knew what amushroom tasted like until
yesterday.
Like right it's insane man.
"$awbuck" Mike (46:13):
It's crazy and
so underneath, underneath the
soil, what's supposed to be?
There is a massive myceliumnetwork of trillions of miles of
you know, I guess, uh, whatwould be a fiber optics?
For you know, god's, fiberoptics, right, it's, it's what's
supposed to be.
There's just trillions of milesof it and that's a
(46:36):
communications network and themicroorganisms, the
cyanobacterias and all thedifferent, different components
of the, of that world, thatsubterranean world.
If, if it's healthy, then say,for instance, a part of a forest
burns down, you know, a hundredmiles away, the mycelium will
transport nutrients through thatnetwork over to that damaged
(46:57):
part of the forest so that itcan grow back quicker.
Right, and that's, that's God's, you know, that's.
It's.
So, beyond science, the peoplethat explore that world have
just barely scratched thesurface on even understanding
the complexities of it.
You know, and here we aretilling up a billion acres of
(47:19):
soil, ripping it all apart anddumping massive amounts of
chemicals on it, and you thinkwe're supposed to stay healthy.
It's just not possible right.
"Headhunter" Higgins (47:27):
And what
are some other ones that you've
grown as well?
That was like wow, this is waytastier than I ever would have
thought that they are um everyeverything like hot peppers are
way hotter, way more flavor um.
"$awbuck" Mike (47:39):
I grew a ton of
trinidad and ghost peppers,
jalapenos, banana peppers, uh,corn, watermelon, honeydew melon
, uh, strawberries, rasp,raspberries, blueberries, you
name it.
I mean we're growing it.
We're growing it and so we put,deliberately installed, a
mycelium inoculation, install mymycelium in the soil and then,
(48:04):
once you do that to your say,you've got a garden and you
install the mycelium in yourgarden.
You don't ever till again.
You either plant cover crops oryou put down, you know, wood
chips or straw, whatever, andkeep that covered, don't ever,
don't ever till it up again.
Let that mycelium expand andit'll expand outside of it.
(48:27):
If you're not using chemicalson your yard, it'll expand and
keep growing, you know.
And so if you just keep puttinggood nutrients down and a lot
of people now are installingfood for us their whole yards
are food for us.
You know growing fruit trees, alot of berry bushes, you know
gardens, all that sort of stuff.
People can go tofoodforestabundancecom.
(48:50):
I work with Jim Gale quite abit and I'm on his council of 12
, actually with a lot of.
I can't believe I'm included init with some of the names that
are included in that council of12 of people who are stewards
for the land, people thatunderstand extensive
understanding of healing soiland creating healthy soil,
(49:14):
healthy plants, healthy humans,healthy environment, all of that
.
So I'm very excited to beworking with them.
So if anybody out there wantsto have a food forest installed,
they can have that drawn up.
Depending on where you live,the plants that work with your
geographic area and you can turnyour whole yard into a food
(49:34):
forest and make it lookaesthetically pleasing.
So it doesn't have to just be.
It's like I lived in at onepoint a pretty affluent
neighborhood out in the countryand I was married to a
chiropractor at the time and shecomes from a pretty affluent
neighborhood out in the countryand I was married to a
chiropractor at the time and shecomes from a pretty affluent
(49:56):
family and she's a great person.
But you know, I said I want toput a garden in the backyard.
She goes dude, we live in aneighborhood where it's you know
, doctors and John Deereexecutives and all the shit.
These are million-dollar houses.
And here I am, I'm like like Iwant to put a garden in the
backyard, she's.
So I started with pots.
(50:16):
I put tomato plants in pots andstuff out on the deck and
backyard and stuff like that,and I eventually got to where I
I created box gardens andstarted growing gardens and
stuff.
Nobody said anything.
I got I got my gardens inbefore the HOA freaked out.
But the HOA was sending outemails about weeds in your yard,
(50:37):
right, and so it wasn'tdirected at me, but it was at me
.
It was just everybody in theneighborhood was included in the
emails.
We've noticed that there's someyards in the neighborhood that
have some you know, some weedsgrowing and this, and that I
just emailed back and said youknow, I I can't help but notice
that a lot of very toxicchemicals are being used in my
(51:00):
neighborhood and we've got a lotof children that live in this
neighborhood and I'd prefer youknow that everybody stopped
using toxic chemicals anddamaging our children and nobody
bugged me after that.
"Headhunter" Higgins (51:11):
Yeah,
cause you were on point with it.
It's pretty hypocritical.
"$awbuck" Mike (51:14):
Yeah, yeah, you
know you got to have an
aesthetically pleasing yard,while little Jimmy is getting
taken over to the University ofIowa Cancer Research Center to
be treated with frigging chemo,right.
"Headhunter" Higgins (51:28):
Terrible.
I think a bunch of plants looksa lot better than just a plain
lawn anyway, but that's just mesure.
Yeah, the site you mentionedwhere we could find your
supplements and stuff too, orthat's a separate site that's in
the works well, there's there'sthere's a couple different
places people can go.
"$awbuck" Mike (51:43):
People can go to
chemicalfreebodycom.
I partnered with him on supersoldier, which is an incredible
product combination combinationof fulvicumic acid and organic
vitamin C.
Not synthetic vitamin C,organic vitamin C.
It's very good for immunefunction, athletic performance.
The Greens 85 on that websiteare incredible.
(52:04):
All the products are very good,top-notch stuff.
The best stuff you're going tofind.
And then also MineralKinglifeis the website I was just
working on yesterday with thedeveloper where our fulvicumic
will be exclusively available.
And then also people can go to.
Well, they can go toenvironauticscom if they want to
(52:25):
get the products for theirgarden or for their agriculture
operations and we'd be happy toanswer any questions they've got
.
They can email me atorganicsupersoldier at gmail and
I'll answer any questions thatthey have on converting over
from their chemical operationinto growing massive crops and
healing their soil with ourprogram.
"Headhunter" Higgins (52:46):
Amazing.
I was growing cannabis for alittle while and just seeing how
much stuff is put into that andlike how much it is like
chemical, fake nutrients beingmixed, like oh you should wear
goggles when you're putting thison or when you're mixing these
and all this other stuff, andI'm like then why is it safe to
go into the plant and theninhale the plant?
"$awbuck" Mike (53:06):
And a lot of it.
"Headhunter" Higgins (53:08):
just I
don't want to do this and I
don't anymore.
But that's about the extent ofmy gardening and you're
inspiring me honestly.
And later this year I'mactually worked out to go stay
in Ireland.
I'm going to be competing inthe UK again and like teaching
some wrestling and stuff, andI've worked out to stay on a
fully organic farm in Irelandwhere they don't use any
(53:28):
chemicals, even in the house oron the garden and it's fully
organic in a very rural area and, uh, I'm exchanging staying
there for work on the farm.
"$awbuck" Mike (53:37):
so I'm
definitely going to be learning
a lot and I'm going to look intomore of your work for sure, too
, because the people there arelike super off-grid,
self-sustaining and yeah we'redoing a lot of work with uh,
Asia and Europe, um and SouthAmerica, where a lot of them are
using our products and businessis picking up quickly, because
(53:59):
it seems like the rise inconsciousness is happening very
quickly and people want to growbiodynamically grown food the
top upper echelon of food andtruly heal the soil.
You know, I want to be able to.
If my kids want to go rollaround in mud, that it's not
toxic, right.
(54:20):
If my kids want to go playoutside, that being barefoot and
running around in that soil isgoing to heal them, not hurt
them.
Pat Miletich (54:28):
Isn't that the
truth?
And you 1,000% fit the bill tobe on that prestigious panel, my
friend, because you dropped somuch knowledge here about soil
and health and what is good andwhat is bad.
So thank you so much.
This was awesome.
"$awbuck" Mike (54:43):
Yeah, thank you
guys, it's been a pleasure.
Pat Miletich (54:45):
Pat Miletic.
Was it what you expected?
"Headhunter" Higgins (54:49):
I mean
kind of yeah, because, like I
was saying to him, all thoseIowa tough guys like that shit
goes back hundreds of years,just like all the most badass
wrestlers and like fucking oldschool bare knuckle fighters and
stuff like that was from theAmerican Midwest and a lot of
times Iowa.
Those dudes were farmers, thosedudes were just badass and I
love that.
(55:09):
He's, you know.
So invested in it becausepeople need to be caring about
that type of stuff, because itdoes start with the food I was
kind of blown away by all theknowledge that he had.
Pat Miletich (55:18):
To be honest with
you, he dropped so much fucking
knowledge, dude, it never ceasesto amaze me, man.
The mma guys are way smarterthan people give them credit for
.
You know that stereotype isn'tjust the the free masonry
aspects.
"Headhunter" Higgins (55:32):
Like we
said, first free mason ever to
be on the show and I obviouslyhave my issues with masonry and
at the top, but he said bluelodge too, which is just those
first three degrees and honestlyI do believe there's a lot of
good old fucking boys and thattype of shit that are like pat
and they think they're more solike in it to build a
(55:53):
brotherhood and be with likegood men and stuff like that and
maybe, I don't know, certainmasons in history were like that
.
But the ones who actually get tothe top, top, top, crazier
levels like that he was talkingto, that you can initiate
through the past, are thepsychopath, fucking satanic ones
and stuff.
Yeah, the lower level guys, thegood guys and like charitable
men and stuff like that, arealmost like the cover people be
(56:15):
like no dude, my uncle's a mason, my, my grandpa's a mason, this
person's a mason and they'rejust, you know, they're just
always doing like charity andlocal business.
It's just like a, a drinking,like hangout men's club to get
away from their wife and likethey're good men and they
they're trying to make adifference.
But those guys are almost likethe cover up for the occultist
crazy ones, and maybe that'swhat Pat was calling talking
(56:36):
about the clandestine Masons.
I've never heard itdistinguished from that.
But I said I've never talked toa Mason before.
I don't know if he's notallowed to disclose certain
things or what level he'sreached or ascended, but just by
talking with them, him, he's agenuine guy and I don't think a
evil, nefarious mason would betrying to undo the work of the
nwo, like poisoning us and shit.
Pat Miletich (56:57):
So yeah, no doubt
it almost did seem like he was
kind of trying to skirt thetopic, like when I asked him it
did kind of sound like he waspussyfooting around.
It didn't sound like he wastrying to be deceitful.
It just didn't sound like hewas taking the most direct way
to answer the question.
So I think there's some to whatyou said.
I think that maybe he can'tkind of speak on a lot of things
(57:19):
, which is cool shit, you know.
But yeah, I don't think hereally is up to any nefarious
doings.
But I will say this it is kindof interesting that when I
brought up, like hey, you know,you hold honor, you're our first
mason the very first thing hesaid was, yeah, you know all the
conspiracies about Satan.
I mean, if I was conspiratorialminded, which most people say I
(57:44):
am, I'm just kidding.
But yeah, that was the firstkind of thing he did say.
"Headhunter" Higgins (57:48):
I'm just
saying but yeah, no, I kid,
maybe well, yeah, it's funnybecause that's what a lot of
people say at the top of it isis luciferian or this or that.
Yeah, who knows, the masons areuh all-encompassing
conspiratorial thing and it'ssupposed to be a secret and
that's the whole thing.
That draws uh the mystery to it.
Pat Miletich (58:07):
And definitely
interesting to talk with one
yeah, it'd be fun maybe to do uhone where we could do some deep
dives and maybe put on somechill vibes right uh freemason
out here then?
Yeah right, deep dives, chillvibes.
We're just two truth seekerstrying to expose the keepers.
Some people would say that thefreemasons are the keepers.
"Headhunter" Higgins (58:32):
When you
asked him, so who's controlling
all this?
I was going to say an objective, but I didn't know how we were
going to get to eventuallybringing up the Masonry aspect.
But yeah, I think Masonrydeserves its own deep dive
episode as well.
Pat Miletich (58:46):
Oh yeah, no doubt,
no doubt.
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No, we really fucking do,because tom and I are really
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So we really do appreciate it.
Thank you guys.
Likewise, what else we got forhim?
"Headhunter" Higgins (01:00:07):
probably
you could just end it on that.
I would say Stay away fromchild molesters.
Thank you.