Could video games be the Rosetta Stone to unraveling our planet's most enigmatic conspiracies? Buckle up for a thrilling odyssey where we navigate the shadowy nexus of gaming and conspiracy theories, from the potential truths hidden within "Baldur's Gate 3" and "Overwatch" to the hollow earth theory. It could turn your reality inside out, literally.
We shed light on the chilling implications of TikTok's potential role in global psyops and the unnerving thought that our own devices could be the eyes and ears of a far-reaching surveillance state. The conversation gets even more riveting as we explore eerie connections between pivotal events in 1968, George W. Bush's Skull and Bones graduation, and the unnerving Havana Syndrome. The truth might be just a play button away.
Our journey culminates with a thought-provoking foray into the lives of grand historical figures like Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci, as we ponder the secrets they may have taken to their graves. We then clash swords in the virtual battlefields of a medieval warfare strategy video game, where moral dilemmas and empire-building collide. It's a mind-bending session that will leave you questioning what's a game and what's reality.
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"$awbuck" Mike (00:01):
The Nephilim sightings are going to start
soon.
"Headhunter" Higg (00:04):
Consciousness has been enslaved.
"$awbuck" Mike (00:06):
Your consciousness does not need your
physical body to survive.
It's the thing that's necessary.
It has to be there.
It's the coding that projectsthis world we currently live in.
I want you to read the Bible.
"Headhunter" Higgins (00:19):
We got reptilians just outside of our
frequency zone.
"$awbuck" Mike (00:22):
Six dimensional beings, the ancient builder race
.
Ideas are the highest form ofintelligence, and that leads you
to truth and clarity.
The Nephilim sightings aregoing to stall soon.
Conspiracy show.
It's obvious.
The aliens are god-fearing andinsanely huge.
We're just one planet.
They would have needed aminimum of six feet of lead
shielding in order to getthrough the 25,000 mile thick of
(00:43):
nl and radiation belt.
This is real.
They really did fake the moon.
The world is infinitely olderthan that, and I mean the world
with human beings in it, skulland bones, is like one of the
villains in the legion of doom,they said.
"Headhunter" Higgins (00:57):
I'll let you read the bible the biblical
flood, the tartaria mud floodconspiracy and chill the
nephilim sightings are going tostart soon.
"$awbuck" Mike (01:05):
The bulldog ball .
I don't want you to read thebible.
"Headhunter" Higgins (01:08):
There's magnets in the basketballs.
There was a political party, athird party called the
anti-masonic party, at a pointin uh in the united states, the
global pandemic treatyconspiracy and chill podcast.
"$awbuck" Mike (01:24):
All right, it's just two of us.
Which is going to be a morecommon thing giving the fans?
"Headhunter" Higgins (01:28):
what they want.
"$awbuck" Mike (01:29):
So a few things we talked about.
Talking about that's a weirdfucking sentence.
I have been wasting oh, wastingis a weird word, but that's a
harsh word.
I have been spending so muchtime lately, bro, playing bould
Baldur's Gate 3 for the PS5.
It's a Dungeons and Dragonsgame.
(01:50):
It's easily the bestrole-playing game I've ever
played, and I was a, you know,massive Skyrim fan.
But this is just, it'sdifferent.
It's a totally different kindof role-playing experience than
Skyrim.
But oh my god, dude, like Ihave, I'm like 49 hours in, like
when I save and it tells youhow many hours, and I'm probably
(02:12):
a third of the way through andthere's no sign of slowing down,
bro, it's, it's bad.
"Headhunter" Higgins (02:17):
I've clocked some despicable amounts
of hours into games in my lifeand uh, yeah, they were fun.
You know, I enjoyed playing thegames and it's an interesting
way to unwind sometimes, andespecially when you're younger
and you got nothing better to doand I would just train, train,
train and when I was exhaustedthen I would just game away and
uh, I don't know, maybe youcould say it's a waste of time,
a lot of the time with with howmuch other shit you could be
(02:39):
doing.
But yeah, I was a elder scrollsonline fiend, halo fiend.
Elder scrolls online took up alot of time, but that was some
of the funnest gaming I've everdone and we can get into later
why it's a a waste of time or apsyop, or you know the
conditioning in video games.
I was just playing fuckingoverwatch.
It's not a game I play often.
(03:00):
I don't really like it.
I don't.
I only shooter.
I like is halo and I play somelike, like games like Bannerlord
and stuff like that.
"$awbuck" Mike (03:07):
What the fuck is Bannerlord, it's a mountain
blade.
"Headhunter" Higgins (03:10):
It's probably the best game ever.
"$awbuck" Mike (03:11):
To be honest, Really.
"Headhunter" Higgins (03:13):
You get to control like a soldier, but you
can also get a party of like a.
You build up like an army ofall these different cultures and
cultures and it's fucking sick.
It's like you get the god mode,like control of the army, like
where you can command and likemove around the map, but you
also get to be one of thewarriors and like upgrade them
and have them and like be on thefield fighting sword and shield
and like commanding your troopsto go wherever it's.
(03:35):
It's extremely tactical andfucking awesome.
What I was going to say is Iwas making fun of, but I was.
It was too easy.
While playing overwatch, I waslike my friends were getting me
to play it and I was just havingsome fun.
You know, or trying to, I don'tgame a lot.
I was like breaking down theilluminati and mason symbolism
in overwatch and there was justcountless examples of I just had
(03:56):
like the they live glass soundlike.
Oh, look at this symbol.
Oh, wow, look, they put thishere perfectly just around.
But I was serious.
Gaming is definitely one of themain weapons on our, our minds
in a way, as fun as it is, weboth like gaming.
We can't be fucking fullydetached in a way, we still got
a life to live and not go fullyfucking nuts, you know
everything is a psyop, but weneed to have our few psyops that
(04:18):
we can enjoy while knowing it'sa psyop no doubt, bro, I'm
about to go all in.
"$awbuck" Mike (04:22):
I mean, there's no sight of me slowing down.
I love that fucking game.
Some trivia, some, uh, somenumbers here.
So boulders gate 3 was releasedaugust of last year, 2023.
Guess how many millions ofcopies it has sold?
Now, it's not a staggeringnumber by any means.
This is the company thatreleased it, produced it and
(04:46):
created it is called lyrian, andthey're a relatively small
company, so this is easily thebiggest game they've ever put
out.
So take a guess on how manymillions of copies it sold and,
as I said, it's not a staggeringnumber, but it is absolutely 10
, 10 million.
Ten Ten million.
"Headhunter" Higgins (05:03):
Ten million.
"$awbuck" Mike (05:03):
Yeah, very respectable, very, very
respectable.
Now, contrast that with Skyrim,which was released on, of
course, november 2011.
11-11.
"Headhunter" Higgins (05:15):
Yeah.
"$awbuck" Mike (05:15):
So how many millions of copies do you think
Skyrim has sold, and all thistakes into account?
"Headhunter" Higgins (05:21):
And they've released it like yeah,
all the re-releases, all theplatforms all the re-releases
this is more impressive 100million, 60 million.
"$awbuck" Mike (05:31):
Wow, that's a lot of fucking video games, bro.
A lot is another impressivenumber.
I told you I logged about 49hours on boulders gate 3, but
when I look and I haven't playedskyrim probably in a year, but
when I look at the hours onskyrim I'm at 480 something,
(05:52):
which is pretty impressive offthe charts and then when my son,
he's into this game calledgenshin impact and he's logged
over 900 hours.
"Headhunter" Higgins (06:03):
It's just like fuck dude, like yeah, a
work week is 40 hours you knowlike think about that gaming is
the main pastime of uh peoplenowadays n64 and like solo games
and shit like that.
When we were young, that shitwas fun.
It was not, as you know,readily available.
(06:24):
You wanted to game with yourfriends.
You had to go to their house,like, and if you were gaming you
were just trying to like beat atask.
You weren't just like fullyfucking immersed in another
world escapism.
Yeah, you were like adhdfocusing on something else, like
trying to beat this platformergame.
But you know what I mean?
It wasn't just like anotherworld to fucking escape into,
like some of these superadvanced games and just endless
(06:46):
fucking hours of uh battleroyale shooters, just like.
I don't know, I miss the oldgaming.
"$awbuck" Mike (06:54):
Play some old platformers and like toy story
fucking n64 or whatever likegoofball game that's super hard
to get a hold of nowadays sothere's an n64 game and I almost
didn't graduate high schoolbecause of this game, because my
friends and I we would leaveschool early and we would go
(07:15):
play this game, because it wasthe first of its kind first
person shooter where you couldplay on the same console four
people versus each other.
Do you know what game I'mtalking about?
"Headhunter" Higgins (07:28):
Was it Halo?
"$awbuck" Mike (07:29):
It was not, it was before Halo.
Halo was an Xbox thing.
"Headhunter" Higgins (07:32):
GoldenEye.
"$awbuck" Mike (07:33):
GoldenEye.
Yes, sir, ding ding ding Brutal.
Fucking 007, goldeneye bro man,that game.
I still remember the facility,the complex.
I mean these are levels thatare To this day.
I can hear certain songs, like,for instance, when I was like
10 years old we lived in anapartment and I remember playing
(07:56):
Super Mario 2.
"Headhunter" Higgins (07:57):
And.
"$awbuck" Mike (07:58):
I remember putting on certain cassette
tapes back then, and if I hearthe song today, it can take me
to that place when I was a10-year-old kid playing that
game, the power of music dude,there's nothing like it, you
know.
"Headhunter" Higgins (08:11):
It is weird how we can immediately be
brought back to a certain sense,whether it was from a song or a
sound or a smell or a locationor whatever.
The fuck can bring you back tothat feeling that you had.
I'm sure there's a name forthat phenomenon.
"$awbuck" Mike (08:26):
I'm sure you know who would probably know the
name of that phenomenon, whoseems to know a lot of shit that
people don't really seem tocatch on to what he's doing
until years later.
Who Brooks Agnew, former guest.
"Headhunter" Higgins (08:38):
Yeah, we got to get him as a return guest
.
"$awbuck" Mike (08:40):
No doubt so for people that are listening right
now that may not have heard ourprevious episode we're referring
to With Brooks Agnew.
Brooks Agnew is, first off,he's a fucking super smart dude.
He's an engineer, brilliant guy.
To sum it up quickly, he isknown for Hollow Earth.
However, it's not so much thathe's like this big proponent in
(09:02):
Hollow Earth, he is a scienceguy and he was explaining on the
podcast to Tom and I how therewas this expedition in the North
Pole region and one of the waysthey're able to track some kind
of science is through thestingrays.
I guess remember what he wassaying, how their species is
very, or certain stingrays arevery sensitive and delicate to
(09:24):
certain changes, so they're ableto kind of tell certain things
from that.
Well, he was explaining howyears ago there was this anomaly
where there was thousands ofstingrays that have since been
extinct, and so from that he waspostulating that there has to
be an inner Earth Ocean.
And the reason why I'm bringingthis up is because recently I
(09:48):
shared an article that I cameacross with Tom.
It has since been published ona few different websites.
It looks like he's kind of beenproven correct here.
Look at the headline of thisGigantic ocean discovered 700
kilometers below Earth's surfaceHolds three times more water
than all oceans combined.
Let me read the first paragraph.
(10:08):
Check this out, it's legitimate.
Researchers at northwesternuniversity at evan state,
illinois, have discovered amassive subterranean ocean three
times the size of earth surfaceoceans hidden beneath the
earth's crust, the planet'scrust, challenging existing
theories on the origin ofearth's water.
So northwestern university,that's no fucking minor league
(10:33):
school, they're elite.
So dude, to me that's just kindof like fucking right, that's
nuts.
"Headhunter" Higgins (10:39):
It opens up so many possibilities well,
brooks pretty much said as much,as far as a bunch of academic
people being uh on board withwhat he was figuring out and
agreeing with him.
He essentially said as much too, that there was like a a
massive amount of hollow terraindetected within the studies and
shit like miles and miles andmiles, so to say it's bigger
(11:02):
than the other oceans too.
"$awbuck" Mike (11:03):
Yeah, I mean nothing surprising to hear now
and do you, I mean everybodyshould know that people should
be having conversations aboutthat.
Like people should know that.
You know my mom should becalling me being like michael.
Did you know?
You know?
Like people should know thisshit instead like be cool, right
, dude.
"Headhunter" Higgins (11:18):
And what if there's a godzilla gonna step
out?
"$awbuck" Mike (11:21):
no doubt, you're in my head because I was gonna
ask you.
There's a difference between measking you what do you think's
possible and what do you thinkis likely possible.
So what do you think is likelydown inside of the earth,
knowing that all of this, thiswater is there, and what water
is the basis for life?
"Headhunter" Higgins (11:43):
fuck, dude , probably all types of crazy
ass, ancient sea life andprobably some sort of atlantis
or nephilim, slash, anunnaki orsea kingdom type of thing, or
like the nazi inner earth theoryof hollow earth bases and shit
like that or like a anotherecosystem within.
I'm open to anything, dude.
(12:04):
I think it's just not.
It's not what they're tellingus.
"$awbuck" Mike (12:06):
If they say, oh well, it's just a dead ocean or
something like yeah, no, there's, there's more to it see, I used
to think that aliens called theocean their homes because of
all the USO sightings and somany people claiming to see UFOs
rise and descend into water.
And now I'm kind of beenleaning towards them perhaps
(12:29):
residing inside of the earth.
And I'm not saying that's allof them, because I don't believe
that all of them reside there.
I I don't even know if, I don'teven believe they're all in the
same dimension, but I think theones that are terrestrial, I
think that they do reside insideof the hollow earth.
"Headhunter" Higgins (12:46):
I I mean, that's what the evidence shows,
yeah just as many mythology orlike origin tales or like
folklore and shit, has thedeities or gods or beings coming
from the sky, you know, comingdown from the sky, which they
always purport to be aliens.
There's just as many of themcoming out of the sea or
reportedly were reported to havecome from the sea, and quite a
(13:08):
few underground tales as welltoo.
So yeah, man, all bets are on.
Are they extra-dimensional?
The majority of the beings thatinteract with Earth and that we
talk about on this type of show?
Is it outer space aliens flyinghere from another place?
Is it things that liveunderground on our world that
have lived here for the longesttime?
Is it an ancient being from theocean?
(13:30):
Is it demons?
Is it angels?
Who the fuck knows, man?
"$awbuck" Mike (13:33):
Brooks knows we're here for it all.
"Headhunter" Higgins (13:35):
He does seem to think that they're
extraterrestrials, yeah.
"$awbuck" Mike (13:38):
That's a fun one .
We do have to get him back Iffor anything else, just so we
can come on here and gloat for alittle bit.
You know, he also mentionedduring our conversation that he
he tried to get funding for likea TV show, remember, Right?
Yeah, I wonder if this wouldhelp that you would think that
that would help the cause.
You know this recent finding, soyeah we got questions for
(13:59):
Brooks, we got to get him backon.
So psyops Okay, when I saypsyops are a fairly recent
creation, you have to let meexplain.
Obviously, psyops have beengoing on for forever, forever.
In the bible there are psyops.
What I mean is the term psyopis thrown around in everyday
(14:23):
language now right, very, veryliberally.
And that's what I mean by thethe.
You know, the psyops are kindof a new thing for people.
"Headhunter" Higgins (14:33):
It's like.
"$awbuck" Mike (14:34):
You know what I mean.
It's a weird thing becausepeople are using it.
Everything is a psyop nowadays.
People are saying so when I askyou the question is TikTok a
psyop?
I'm not being facetious, I'mnot trying to be funny.
I'm being honest, becausethere's a lot of real smart
people in the know that seem tothink and fucking seem to know
(14:56):
that TikTok is a psyop.
So I wanted to kind of talk toyou about this and I don't know
much about it.
I did watch a podcast andGeneral Robert Spalding was kind
of talking about this, so I didtake some, some notes that you
know I could.
I wanted to bounce off you andsee what you think.
So by no means am I an experton this at all, but I did want
(15:18):
to see where you were at with itnow, I'm certainly no tiktok
expert either.
"Headhunter" Higgins (15:22):
I don't have an account.
A lot of people have told me Ishould make one, you know,
content creating or whatever Ido, and I, uh, probably should,
but I really don't want tobecause I have felt that it's
been a psyop all along.
What is a psyop?
A psychological operation whichis designed to have an effect
on the mind of the people whoare the intended targets of it.
(15:42):
I guess, yeah, I think it'smade everybody who's fucking
grew up on it and used itstupider and shorter attention
span.
And yeah, I'm sure there's goodstuff on there too, but I'm
sure majority of the time it'sjust dancing and ass shaking and
just dumb ass stuff.
And then taking data, takingall these facial apps and stuff
like the aging challenges orwhatever the filters, and it's
(16:04):
it's textbook psyop, if you askme.
"$awbuck" Mike (16:07):
Yes, I have never downloaded tiktok.
I've never fucked with it.
I've always, like you, thoughtit was a psyop.
And, yeah, the show doesn'thave one.
I don't have one.
You know, maybe if one daywe're doing 50 million downloads
per and we need to, fine, we'llcross that bridge when we get
(16:27):
there.
But until that time comes, nofucking tick tock for for this
guy.
So check this out some of thethings that I was able to find,
some of the things I thoughtwere amusing.
So on reddit, I was able tofind this interesting subreddit
where the title is what doestick tock actually do?
(16:49):
That so Bad?
And the top comment on thethread is I'm starting to
believe that TikTok is a form ofChinese hybrid warfare.
Is TikTok worse than the otherhundred apps I have on my phone?
I installed a firewall loggeron my Android phone and saw
things like Etsy app sendingmessages to Facebook when I was
(17:12):
not even running the Etsy appand had not run it for months.
Another app showing the phasesof the moon was trying to send
messages when I have not run theapp for over six months.
It looks to me like everythingon my phone is trying to spy on
me.
What does the TikTok app dothat makes it worse than the
rest of these apps.
(17:32):
And then you know there's acouple of people that go on to
mention some things that make itworse.
But yeah, I mean, why do you?
Why would you have, you know,etsy and a Moonphase app
communicating with each otherwhen you haven't used one of the
apps in over half a year?
So why wouldn't Etsy app needto talk to a moon phase app when
(17:53):
the moon phase app hasn't evenbeen used in six months, like
when you're not even around, noteven using it?
There's no good reason for thatcreepy right.
Yeah, some other things that Ifound that I wanted to share
with you and get your thoughtson.
So this guy on x says tiktok isa communist chinese
brainwashing psyop to trickamerican children into opposing
(18:14):
us foreign policy.
It's like havana syndrome forbig tech alumni.
What do you think they?
"Headhunter" Higgins (18:20):
can make it whatever the hell they want.
And the surveillance shitscares me like dude.
Nothing is private anymore.
They're fucking, you know bankaccount.
They're fucking social media.
They're, uh, political beliefs.
They're the things that theytype on their phone, the things
that they search type of pornthey watch.
They, they know whatscreenshots.
They know, like they have afull fucking profile on
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everybody.
Like it's crazy.
Like what is that gonna be usedfor?
Is ai just gonna like knoweverything about everyone?
Like that's what they reallywant here.
"$awbuck" Mike (18:49):
So I, I don't remember exactly where this
information.
"Headhunter" Higgins (18:51):
It was some numerology guy or something
on tinfoil or someone's show,and I've used this because it's
a crazy alignment.
I may have mentioned it on herebefore too, but I'm going to
add in the point that I thinkties it all together, that my
buddy added so this was not onthe original place that I heard
it 1968 was Bush graduating,george Bush Jr, whatever,
(19:13):
whatever.
Hw bush the younger one, 9-11one.
He graduated from skull andbones and yale in 1968.
The world trade centerconstruction started in 1968.
The boeing plane model thatended up hitting the twin towers
was rolled out to the publicand made available in 1968.
The new york jets won their oneand only Super Bowl in 1968.
(19:36):
And the numbers 911 was madethe standard national emergency
number.
It used to be different, likearound in different places, but
in 1968, they made it theuniversal emergency number 911.
So all those events thenculminate on 9-11.
George Bush, who was in hissecret society, just graduated,
happens to be the president ofNew York and the president when
(20:00):
New York gets hit with the 9-11in 2001.
The same plane that hit it,created in the same year that he
graduated.
The World Trade Centerconstruction started in the same
year as that, the New York Jetsonly Super Bowl 9-1-1 all being
put together.
So talk about a psyop.
9-11 was a psyop.
Made that far back people belike what?
(20:20):
That far back like?
Yeah, dude, it's probablyhundreds of years back, maybe
not to the exact date that theywere going to do what, but like
fulfilling the plan of thesesecret societies.
100 and uh, the thing that myfriend added then because he's a
big movie guy, like when I wastrying to convince my other
friends that he said, oh, yeahand uh, 1968 was 2001, a space
odyssey too.
(20:41):
And I was like holy shit, likebecause kubrick's always
associated with you know, likerevealing stuff, or he's like
very mentioned amongstpredictive programming or
subliminal messaging and stuff,and I, my other friends, like I
don't see, see how that has thetie, and I'm like well, it says
2001.
And then what's the theme ofthe movie?
It's like again 9-11, 2001.
(21:02):
And I'm like what is the themeof the movie?
It's technology, aka ai, asupercomputer knowing and
controlling literally everything, to the point where it's like a
god government, like over man,all knowing, all, like powerful
thing, right, and I've actuallynever even still seen the movie
in its entirety.
But that's the theme now, likethe computer that takes over and
like is the mastermind ofeverything.
(21:24):
And tell me, 9-11 is not thestart of that, with the patriot
act and all the laws that waspassed after 9-11, the spying
that we just discussed of, likeour phones, all these things,
these service agreements andsecurity things that you have to
agree to, everything beingfilmed, everything being, you
know, airport stops, like pullover, like being detained,
searched all the time, like thattype of shit, was not the norm
(21:46):
before 9-11.
9-11 was used to set up thefuture, because what's that all
going to lead to?
Then the ai fucking controllingeverything and knowing
everything and having raps oneverybody.
And 9-11 was necessary to getto that point, because that's
how they justified all these youknow invasions of privacy,
leading up to the point we arenow, and we're all perfectly
(22:07):
okay with it at all well, I'mnot doing anything and just
meanwhile, yeah, they fucking,they got us all okay.
"$awbuck" Mike (22:13):
So I want to talk about a bunch of things.
Number one I remember what Iwas going to say and I'm going
to say it right now, just so ifI forget it again before we get
there, you can remember ithavana syndrome it was mentioned
in the tweet that I read to you, but before we get into that.
So 9-11 as a psyop, I 100%think there's a lot of fuckery
(22:37):
with 9-11.
In my mind, it's hard for me tothink that they put the plans
in motion to do what they did toit in 69.
Not saying that it's notpossible, I just don't.
I don't know.
Maybe I mean that's a lot offucking coincidences.
I don't know.
(22:57):
I mean there's definitely.
I definitely think that theyknew about it.
You know, I honestly don't know.
I should probably be morewell-researched on the whole.
You know the whole 9-11, becausethere's so many different
conspiracies that go into it.
Like I just found out from thatdocumentary that came out last
year that there was anotherplane that had a bomb on it that
never left the airport.
Did you ever hear about that?
No, dude, there's a fuckingdocumentary on hulu.
(23:20):
It's called uh, the other plane, or some shit like that.
It's.
It's crazy.
So there's so much to it that Istill don't know.
But yeah, I mean a whole bunchof fuckery.
Do you really think that theyput the plans in motion in 69 to
bring it down in 01?
"Headhunter" Higgins (23:35):
Yeah, I would not put it past them too.
To my understanding, thesepowers that be shadow government
motherfuckers are part of amillennia-old belief system and
secret cults serving in ancientfucking darkness or some shit
and taking commands forthousands of years on what to do
.
So how the fuck should?
(23:56):
I know it's way beyond crazythan even we believe.
But yeah, it seems to line upwith all those coincidences, if
you ask me.
And then my friend's littlequote about 2001, a space
odyssey, and me connecting thatto how 9-11 was part of it.
"$awbuck" Mike (24:13):
It definitely kind of adds like a whole new
layer to it.
I will say, though, that ourgovernment, they are extremely
adept at seeing an opportunityand fully taking advantage of
that, motherfucker.
"Headhunter" Higgins (24:30):
They already have a reaction
accounted for and then theypresent the solution that's
already pre-planned.
Mm-hmm.
"$awbuck" Mike (24:36):
And I definitely think there was a lot of that
going on.
Did you know, or do you know,what havana syndrome is?
Because I'm telling you, I hadno fucking idea.
I had to look it up, not byname.
So what is it?
See, if I maybe heard of it.
So havana syndrome, formerlyknown as anomalous health
incidence, is a disputed medicalcondition reported primarily by
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us diplomatic intelligence andmilitary officials stationed in
overseas locations.
Reported symptoms range inseverity, from pain and ringing
in the ears to cognitivedysfunction, and were first
reported by US and Canadianembassy staff in Havana, cuba,
hence the name.
(25:19):
Through earlier I'm sorry,though earlier incidents may
have occurred in Frankfurt,germany.
Starting in 2016 through 2021,several hundred US intelligence
and military officials and theirfamilies reported having
symptoms in overseas locationsincluding China, india, europe,
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hanoi, as well as Washington DC,which isn't a overseas location
.
So I don't know why that wasincluded in it.
But yeah, I mean there's more,but I think you get to jest.
That's kind of a weird one.
I never heard about that before.
"Headhunter" Higgins (25:54):
Can we ever trust anything told to us
about health or sickness everagain after the past couple
years?
"$awbuck" Mike (26:00):
No, no doubt, I feel like I barely can.
No, absolutely You're right.
The Havana syndrome, the way itwas described there, to me and
I'm untrained, full transparency.
I'm untrained, but to me thatsounds like bullshit.
It sounds like hey man, I don'tfeel good, maybe my ear is
ringing or maybe I have somebody aches, and well, you know
(26:23):
what you probably have havanasyndrome.
You know it's like really, ifyou're living your life overseas
, you're gonna have all the samestressors you would have at
home living your life right.
Most days go by.
You're either in pain, you'reaggravated.
You know there's maybe there'sringing in your ear, maybe you
bend down, you get lightheaded.
Those things happen.
I don't have fucking PlanoIllinois syndrome.
(26:44):
You know what I mean.
Like come on, I don't know.
So what do you think is goingon then?
I think people are full of shitand I think doctors are
psychopaths largely.
No, I'm not a medical denier,you know, doctors, the dichotomy
(27:06):
is a weird one because doctorsnearly killed my son.
Then a competent doctor savedmy son.
So I'm by no meansanti-medicine, I'm anti-bad
medicine and unfortunately whatI see most of the time now is
bad medicine.
So that's kind of why I takesuch a negative spin when I talk
about physicians usually,basically, I just think in part,
like if you give them, if yougive doctors an opportunity to
(27:29):
say that you have something, nodoctor is going to say you know
what?
You have a little ringing inyour ear, you're a little
lightheaded, you have somegeneral body pain, you know what
?
It's probably just nothing.
No doctor is going to say thatDoctors are going to be like, oh
well, you probably, but youcould have, let's run these
tests, let's do this, let's dothat, or you know, it could be
(27:50):
this, it could really, it couldbe, it could be, but it's
probably not.
I think most of it's probablyjust people are full of shit and
doctors like to fucking play.
God you know.
I'm sure there's legitimatecases.
Of course I'm not saying that,I just think it's.
It's like what's that one?
Okay, it's like fibromyalgia.
"Headhunter" Higgins (28:11):
You've heard of that I'm not even
familiar with what it's supposedto be it's disputed in the
medical community.
"$awbuck" Mike (28:16):
50 of the doctors don't think it's real.
It's more common for women tohave it, although men have
reportedly had it too.
There's no way you can prove it.
There's no test that you can doto say you have it.
There's no blood work you canget done to say that you have it
either.
Okay, it's general pain, it'spain, that's it.
You're about it where, all over, oh, you have fibromyalgia.
(28:38):
That's, that's the scent,that's what it is, that's what
it is.
So that's another case whereit's just like wow, I'm not
denying that they're in pain,but, dude, you reach 40, every
day, your fucking body is goingto ache.
You're an athlete, you know.
Oh dude, I'm hurting right now,that's what I'm saying dude, you
don't have fucking fibromyalgia, you have tom fucking goes way
(29:02):
too hard in the gym a phobia.
You know what I mean.
That's what you have.
You know you don't have someillness.
Yeah, I don't know and I'm not.
Like I said, I'm not when Italk to a lot of people and I
know I don't have to preface itwith you or even probably the
audience, but I feel like I haveto because I'm conditioned that
way.
You know, like peopleautomatically think oh, this
(29:22):
fucking, this guy's crazy, he'santi-medicine.
It's like no, I'm not.
Just because I don't believe incertain things, just because
I'm anti that and anti baddoctors, doesn't mean I'm
anti-medicine.
"Headhunter" Higgins (29:33):
Nobody can be one thing and another.
Nobody can have conflicting orvaried beliefs.
If you're one thing, you'reautomatically labeled into or
shoved into a box.
In the ever-devisive world thatwe're in, it's funny.
"$awbuck" Mike (29:47):
Mm-hmm.
I mentioned that I listened toa podcast with General Robert
Spalding.
Some of the notes I took.
I wanted to get your thoughtson them.
So in China, tiktok is not evenallowed.
I thought that was interesting.
Instead they have this thing.
It's called Douyin and it'sessentially it's a Chinese
(30:09):
language equivalent to TikTokand each kid is allowed 40
minutes per day on it.
But what is on it is theyhighlight scientific
achievements, mathematics,sports, that's it.
You're not going to find nobullshit on this Doian.
When they polled TikTok usersand then the Doian users, the
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young kids from America andChina, the number one thing that
young kids want to be inAmerica is an influencer.
He explained how it's verydangerous, because what's
happening now is TikTok isinfluencing the behavior and the
behavior patterns of the youthand the people that use the app
(30:55):
and at the same time, they'rereducing national productivity
and they're molding the future,future generations.
They're corroding civilization.
They're corroding our rights byinfecting the youth.
This is the long game, man.
We've been playing fuckingcheckers and they've been
playing chess since 1969, whenwe were fucking building the,
(31:16):
the trade centers, you know shitsince 1766 and longer, no doubt
.
I mean about the future.
I don't have much hope for itand I don't like saying that,
but it's just like I don't know,man.
I just to where it was when Iwas young, to where it is now.
"Headhunter" Higgins (31:34):
It's almost unrecognizable, man,
pretty hard to plant in a head.
"$awbuck" Mike (31:38):
Expect normalcy shit does happen, but it is
never when we expect it, whichkind of leads me into a question
.
So when I was young, when I wasyounger, kind of exploring
these ideas, I was a hugenostradamus fan.
Oh yeah, I am not anymore,obviously, but I I would always
wonder if he knew all these likewhy couldn't we stop these
(32:00):
things?
And and then people wouldalways say things like well, you
know it's encoded, it's notmeant to find out.
It's like I just think that it'sreally shitty, that after it
happens, it's like really, canyou just one time, just one time
show me.
"Headhunter" Higgins (32:16):
Somebody decipher it for the future.
"$awbuck" Mike (32:19):
Yeah, I mean I don't know.
Am I wrong there for the future?
Yeah, I mean I don't know.
"Headhunter" Higgins (32:22):
Am I wrong there?
That's a fair critique that wecould just apply anything after
the fact, any obscure shit?
"$awbuck" Mike (32:30):
What are your feelings on Ostradamus?
"Headhunter" Higgins (32:32):
Who knows, man?
I do feel like there are somepsychic phenomenons.
Maybe he had a device or he hadan ability.
He used a bowl of water.
Who knows, bro?
Like there are psychic people,like I don't know if it's
because they're tapped into thespirit world, something is
telling them they can see thetimeline, maybe like past,
(32:52):
present and future all exist atthe same time and like you can
just sometimes get a glimpse.
But I've seen it firsthand,dated a girl who was undeniably
psychic.
Like I've had other weirdthings happen.
Like I do feel like people can,can, tap into stuff.
Like people have premonitions,like gut feelings, just like
story, or like, uh, you knowprophetic dreams and shit.
(33:14):
So who?
Who really knows?
Like it might say more about,like, what is time and
experience and stuff like thatit's not out of the realm of
possibility, but yeah, it isalways after the fact, nobody's
took in all of his otherwritings and laid out like hey,
here's what they're going to donext.
I'm sure there are peoplewho've tried or or put their
spin on it, but yeah, I don'tthink that, uh, we've been able
to use his things as a playbook,unless we're looking backwards.
"$awbuck" Mike (33:37):
Yeah and to your point, I believe in, like said,
dreams and all kinds of weirdshit.
I definitely, you know I don'thave the answer.
I know that there's definitelycrazy things that happen, but
with Nostradamus it's just likehim particularly.
It's like if you look at thequote, unquote predictions that
(33:58):
he's made successfully and youtake all the predictions that
he's made, he's less than 1%accurate.
Now some could say, well, youknow, we just haven't figured
what those ones, those otherquatrains, a quatrain is what he
called.
You know, each prediction was aquatrain because it was written
in four lines.
So some people could say, maybewe just haven't figured out what
(34:20):
I don't know.
And it broke my heart because Iwas a huge michelle nastradamus
fan.
You know, one thing that Ithink is kind of interesting is
leonardo da vinci painted themona lisa.
But have you ever seen thetheory that the mona lisa is
actually leonardo da vinci as awoman?
Because the dimensions, likewhen they mathematically did his
(34:41):
face and laid it over it waslike an identical match to her
Ever heard of that.
"Headhunter" Higgins (34:46):
No, I don't think I have.
What are your?
"$awbuck" Mike (34:49):
initial thoughts on that.
I just think he was doing it tolike fuck with people more or
less you know, because he didencode a lot of crazy shit in
his work.
Have you seen some of like theold Renaissance paintings that
have like UFOs in them and shit?
"Headhunter" Higgins (35:04):
Oh yeah.
"$awbuck" Mike (35:05):
Dude, that's the argument that I use when I'm
having a conversation about UFOswith people, when people want
to say, well, you know, itwasn't even a thing until
Kenneth Arnold saw them in 1943,and it's just like, or it's a
recent, I think it's thegovernment, it's the government.
(35:25):
Listen, I definitely think thegovernment has some crazy
technology, definitely hasthings in the sky that we don't
know about.
I'm not denying that.
But when people just write itall off to the government, it's
like, dude, there was nogovernment in the 1700s, 1600s
flying things, things in the sky, but yet here they are being
depicted you know what I mean.
"Headhunter" Higgins (35:46):
I have a theory too.
People have said that all thoserenaissance creators and stuff
are basically named after likeangels like michelangelo would
be like angel michael, andthey're saying like, oh, the
angels might have builtsomething else, or I don't know
what leonardo da vinci's namemeans.
I've looked it up upon time butleo definitely has to do with
life.
That is a nod to the gales, thegals, the gallic wars, the
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druids, the, the knowledge thatwas stolen and, you know,
replaced by the catholic churchand whatever else, and masonry,
with his name being a referenceto galilee, where jesus was born
, and I don't know.
I think it's just a funnycover-up that they threw in and
be like actually this is whereour knowledge came from, huh
what's sad is uh, we'll probablynever know like the answer to
(36:32):
most of this shit.
"$awbuck" Mike (36:33):
I know we don't have the looking glass.
"Headhunter" Higgins (36:38):
If we did know, mike, we would be out of
show.
If everybody knew, or if weknew any of the answers, that's
the fun of it is questioning,questioning, questioning yeah,
that is the fun.
"$awbuck" Mike (36:46):
however, I just would like to know is that, when
my time here was done, that Iwould get the answer to all of
my questions?
If I knew that, yeah, that'd becool if that laid like, if I
knew that that was what happenedafter I expired, knew that I
was about to get all theseanswers to all these questions
(37:09):
I've had my whole life.
"Headhunter" Higgins (37:10):
Right dude , I like that I don't have any
reason to believe.
It shouldn't be that.
I, you know, have dabbled withall sorts of spiritualities.
You know, have dabbled with allsorts of spiritualities and
when I was kind of like, oh shit, I think there's something to
jesus and whatever recently, asyou or anyone who's heard us
talk about this type of stuff,but I still definitely don't
(37:31):
fall in line at all with anyreligion or like even like the
bible itself is a book writtenby man.
Yeah, they say it's whateverthe word of god inspired by man.
But but at the same time, dude,all these different kings, all
these different secret societies, all these different people
have edited it, taken things out, added things in, changed
things up.
I know how evil a lot of thesereligious institutions and shit
(37:53):
are, so I feel weird even to tryand say that I am a Christian
or this or that, and like theDruidry, and I just think that
religion is a massive psyop,everything like that resonates
with me, for sure.
But all this other stuff likethat.
But I like to believe.
Yeah, I will get some sort ofclosure or answers or whatever
(38:16):
when the time has come, isreligion the first psyop.
Fuck man, probably, and Ibelieve that at a time it
probably wasn't and it wascloser to what it should be.
If there is a purpose, is, Iguess, as far as what I'm saying
is a form of spirituality,that's I don't know sustainable
and god-based, sustainabilitybased and abundance based, and
(38:41):
not, uh, condemnation andgoverning and rules and death
worship and fucking fear and allthat like that's.
That's the clear psyop and Ibelieve it was flipped on its
head at some point.
"$awbuck" Mike (38:54):
But I would say, yeah, religion has always been
used as a psyop, bringing thissession full circle, kind of.
I used to have a theory, notnecessarily a theory.
I used to have an idea, an ideathat I thought would be really
cool that would happen when wedied.
I thought this would be reallycool if.
(39:16):
If this is what happened,wouldn't it be cool if, when we
did expire from this earth,wouldn't it be cool if you got
to pick, like a video game or amovie or something like that,
like what?
you want your Skyrim.
I want to when I go?
(39:36):
I want to go into the Skyrimworld.
So boom, you get transportedinto the video game.
But it's not a video game,though.
It's the real thing.
It's just you're in skyrim thegame, but it's real.
It's like real, like not acartoon, it's real.
"Headhunter" Higgins (39:50):
Wouldn't that be cool if it's just
whatever your mind and spiritwants.
A lot of people believe thattype of uh afterlife where would
you?
pick.
I don't know man.
I used to kind of like the ideaof like some valhalla shit I'm
not gonna lie, or but I feellike Valhalla is also like the
original jihad psyop.
Like don't you think that theIslamist extremist guys that are
trying to get somebody to godie for them, or like Japanese
(40:12):
kamikaze soldiers, like thatthey're, you know, being swayed
by the leadership, like, hey,you gotta go die for this.
Like, if you do, you'll be likeyou know, into know in a
paradise and you'll have allthis, you'll have all these
virgins, you'll be honored,you'll have like a fucking
million chariots in theafterlife.
If you go like kill yourselffor this, the Vikings was the
same ship For some reason, wethink that's cool and badass.
(40:32):
Like, oh, you go die sick tojust fight reborn, fight, feast,
reborn.
But I don't know man, Iprobably would want to be in
some Shire type of shit.
Send me to some badass forest-yrealm.
(40:55):
I do want to get some fightingon.
So I don't know.
"$awbuck" Mike (40:57):
The Jarl of.
"Headhunter" Higgins (40:58):
Windhelm.
"$awbuck" Mike (40:59):
I used to be an adventurer like you.
Then I took an arrow in theknee.
"Headhunter" Higgins (41:05):
Exactly.
Tell me, fucking Vikingchieftains, pushing that on them
is any different than akamikaze or a jihadist.
"$awbuck" Mike (41:12):
I've never thought Religious extremist yeah
, they're religious extremists.
"Headhunter" Higgins (41:15):
They were terrorists, the berserkers and
shit.
"$awbuck" Mike (41:18):
The Odinist was basically a religious extremist
I've never thought about it, butthe way that, yeah, the way
that you laid it out, itabsolutely.
There's no difference betweenwhat they did there than what
the japanese did with thekamikazes or the muslims do with
the 900 virgins or whatever youknow.
(41:39):
There's no different.
"Headhunter" Higgins (41:40):
Yeah, that's, I never thought about
that, but that's interesting,that's crazy you could put it on
any spin, the crusaders andshit, like they were like, all
right, well, whatever, if I diein battle, I'll be with jesus,
I'll be with whatever.
The celtic warriors, and likethe gauls and the irish and shit
, believed in another world,like they basically believed
that it wasn't like a heaven.
It was just like you live inanother version of the world
(42:01):
once you die and when people areborn into the world that we're
in, that they were coming fromthe other world.
And so they even fought nakedand like they made armor, like
they actually invented chainmail.
But a lot of times they wouldjust fight shirtless for sure,
or even just straight up naked,because they were like, oh I
don't care, dude, if I'm meantto die, then I'm meant to die.
Like, if the gods are on myside, then I'll win because I'm
(42:23):
a badass, and if I die, thenI'll just go to the other world.
That's what they wanted, it wasmy time.
So they just fought completelyfearlessly.
So the ancient Celtic versionof a religious fanatic,
terrorist, extremist would havebeen a naked, charging guy,
painted or tattooed, who justdidn't give a shit if he went to
(42:44):
the other world or not.
He just wanted to go outbrawling for the fun of it.
"$awbuck" Mike (42:47):
So if you had to pick a video game that your
body, your soul, everythingabout you when you go, would be
transported into this video game, what game would you pick?
"Headhunter" Higgins (43:00):
Shit.
I better pick a good one,because who knows if they're
going to try and upload ourconsciousness?
Um, I would say I skyrim doessound really fucking fun, like
just being able to attack andfight these fucking crazy
creatures.
And what?
What race were you in skyrim?
"$awbuck" Mike (43:17):
well, I had a couple different characters, but
the one that I would findmyself going to most, a Khajiit,
maybe Nice, I definitelyclacked the most on an orc.
"Headhunter" Higgins (43:29):
I definitely clacked the most on
an orc Just brutal fucking melee.
But I had an Argonian too whowas like thiefy and I love
Argonians.
"$awbuck" Mike (43:37):
Yeah, I like the Argonians too.
The Argonian ale, the skooma,did you play ES elder scrolls
online?
Okay, so I'm.
I was so excited I got it and Iput I was like this is fucking
different this is not I don't, Idon't like it, I didn't like it
(43:58):
it's the only type of game likethat I ever played.
"Headhunter" Higgins (44:01):
But yeah, totally different experience.
Mmorpg like yeah, dude, I had aguild that would play with my
friends, like it.
I went hard on that shit foryears, like I took some time off
, but for years I played mad esoand I I liked it.
It was fun definitely some ofthe funner gaming experiences I
had but wasted a lot of time onit.
Fucking game had poorperformance too, like.
"$awbuck" Mike (44:21):
But yeah, it was a very immersive game for sure
yeah, games are so fun, dude, Ithrow my headphones on, plug
that bitch into the ps5controller and I just go.
It's just fun.
You could hear like everylittle like from him walking,
like, from the characterswalking on like like a wooden
bridge to like the concrete tothe brick.
(44:43):
You could hear like thedifferent fucking tones and it's
incredible man Having theprivilege to just watch video
games from 1989 to where theyare now it's just like, wow,
Like it's crazy, you got to gowith it Sure did dude.
"Headhunter" Higgins (44:59):
Well, shit , you're making me kind of want
to game tonight.
There you go.
"$awbuck" Mike (45:01):
I'm probably going to.
Well, I don't know, maybe if Iget some fucking food in me, I
might play some Elder Scrolls.
You got anything Elder Scrolls?
No, fucking Bowler's Gate 3.
"Headhunter" Higgins (45:12):
Yeah, you should look into Bannerlord dude
Probably the best game of alltime and any of the people out
there who like the art of war,you know that is the fucking
game.
Banner hard banner, lord banner, mountain blade.
What is mountain blade?
So that's the series.
You like on a horseback, likeyou mount a horse and you can
fucking fuck some people up.
It's like a like a civilizationtype of game, but also, like I
(45:36):
said, you get to battle.
It's like imagine call of duty,fucking with axes and swords
and spears, but instead of justeveryone being 1v1, like it's,
you know, just a computer world,like a immersive world, and
you're fighting other armies andyou're controlling your army on
the field while you're fighting.
It's sick, wow that soundscrazy.
"$awbuck" Mike (45:57):
Do they have, uh , any questionable kind of
characters like we mean?
You know, like people you mighthave to stay away from.
It's a whole.
It's a whole like Do they haveany questionable kind of
characters?
Like, what do you mean?
"Headhunter" Higgins (46:07):
You know, like people you might have to
stay away from.
It's a whole like pedophiles.
It's a whole running empire orcivilization.
There's like a bunch ofdifferent factions.
There's like a Viking culture,there's two like empire, like
Roman and Byzantine empirecultures.
There's like an english knightempire thing, there's a celtic
one, there's a arab one, there'sa mongolian like horse based
(46:30):
one.
That's fucking sick and you canlike take territories all
around the world and likeconquer castles and like be at
war with all these differentnations and start wars with them
and so, yeah, you get fucked upand and you get your whole army
wiped out and you get arrested.
It's an intense game, bro.
"$awbuck" Mike (46:46):
Did you ever play Risk the board game?
"Headhunter" Higgins (46:49):
Never Wow.
"$awbuck" Mike (46:51):
Do you know what it is?
"Headhunter" Higgins (46:51):
That's one of the few.
I don't really know the premiseof it.
"$awbuck" Mike (46:54):
It's like World War II.
You have the Axis and theAllies.
There's actually a better gamethat's called axis and allies
and it's uh, it's risk is aripoff of that game, but some of
those games can go for weekslike that's wild it's yeah,
because it's literally likeworld domination kind of shit
(47:14):
dude.
But yeah, I was wondering, Iwas wondering if there's any
people you had to stay away from, like pedophiles.
Guitar solo I'm out.
The Nephilim sightings are going to start
soon.
"Headhunter" Higg (00:04):
Consciousness has been enslaved.
"$awbuck" Mike (00:06):
Your consciousness does not need your
physical body to survive.
It's the thing that's necessary.
It has to be there.
It's the coding that projectsthis world we currently live in.
I want you to read the Bible.
"Headhunter" Higgins (00:19):
We got reptilians just outside of our
frequency zone.
"$awbuck" Mike (00:22):
Six dimensional beings, the ancient builder race
.
Ideas are the highest form ofintelligence, and that leads you
to truth and clarity.
The Nephilim sightings aregoing to stall soon.
Conspiracy show.
It's obvious.
The aliens are god-fearing andinsanely huge.
We're just one planet.
They would have needed aminimum of six feet of lead
shielding in order to getthrough the 25,000 mile thick of
(00:43):
nl and radiation belt.
This is real.
They really did fake the moon.
The world is infinitely olderthan that, and I mean the world
with human beings in it, skulland bones, is like one of the
villains in the legion of doom,they said.
"Headhunter" Higgins (00:57):
I'll let you read the bible the biblical
flood, the tartaria mud floodconspiracy and chill the
nephilim sightings are going tostart soon.
"$awbuck" Mike (01:05):
The bulldog ball .
I don't want you to read thebible.
"Headhunter" Higgins (01:08):
There's magnets in the basketballs.
There was a political party, athird party called the
anti-masonic party, at a pointin uh in the united states, the
global pandemic treatyconspiracy and chill podcast.
"$awbuck" Mike (01:24):
All right, it's just two of us.
Which is going to be a morecommon thing giving the fans?
"Headhunter" Higgins (01:28):
what they want.
"$awbuck" Mike (01:29):
So a few things we talked about.
Talking about that's a weirdfucking sentence.
I have been wasting oh, wastingis a weird word, but that's a
harsh word.
I have been spending so muchtime lately, bro, playing bould
Baldur's Gate 3 for the PS5.
It's a Dungeons and Dragonsgame.
(01:50):
It's easily the bestrole-playing game I've ever
played, and I was a, you know,massive Skyrim fan.
But this is just, it'sdifferent.
It's a totally different kindof role-playing experience than
Skyrim.
But oh my god, dude, like Ihave, I'm like 49 hours in, like
when I save and it tells youhow many hours, and I'm probably
(02:12):
a third of the way through andthere's no sign of slowing down,
bro, it's, it's bad.
"Headhunter" Higgins (02:17):
I've clocked some despicable amounts
of hours into games in my lifeand uh, yeah, they were fun.
You know, I enjoyed playing thegames and it's an interesting
way to unwind sometimes, andespecially when you're younger
and you got nothing better to doand I would just train, train,
train and when I was exhaustedthen I would just game away and
uh, I don't know, maybe youcould say it's a waste of time,
a lot of the time with with howmuch other shit you could be
(02:39):
doing.
But yeah, I was a elder scrollsonline fiend, halo fiend.
Elder scrolls online took up alot of time, but that was some
of the funnest gaming I've everdone and we can get into later
why it's a a waste of time or apsyop, or you know the
conditioning in video games.
I was just playing fuckingoverwatch.
It's not a game I play often.
(03:00):
I don't really like it.
I don't.
I only shooter.
I like is halo and I play somelike, like games like Bannerlord
and stuff like that.
"$awbuck" Mike (03:07):
What the fuck is Bannerlord, it's a mountain
blade.
"Headhunter" Higgins (03:10):
It's probably the best game ever.
"$awbuck" Mike (03:11):
To be honest, Really.
"Headhunter" Higgins (03:13):
You get to control like a soldier, but you
can also get a party of like a.
You build up like an army ofall these different cultures and
cultures and it's fucking sick.
It's like you get the god mode,like control of the army, like
where you can command and likemove around the map, but you
also get to be one of thewarriors and like upgrade them
and have them and like be on thefield fighting sword and shield
and like commanding your troopsto go wherever it's.
(03:35):
It's extremely tactical andfucking awesome.
What I was going to say is Iwas making fun of, but I was.
It was too easy.
While playing overwatch, I waslike my friends were getting me
to play it and I was just havingsome fun.
You know, or trying to, I don'tgame a lot.
I was like breaking down theilluminati and mason symbolism
in overwatch and there was justcountless examples of I just had
(03:56):
like the they live glass soundlike.
Oh, look at this symbol.
Oh, wow, look, they put thishere perfectly just around.
But I was serious.
Gaming is definitely one of themain weapons on our, our minds
in a way, as fun as it is, weboth like gaming.
We can't be fucking fullydetached in a way, we still got
a life to live and not go fullyfucking nuts, you know
everything is a psyop, but weneed to have our few psyops that
(04:18):
we can enjoy while knowing it'sa psyop no doubt, bro, I'm
about to go all in.
"$awbuck" Mike (04:22):
I mean, there's no sight of me slowing down.
I love that fucking game.
Some trivia, some, uh, somenumbers here.
So boulders gate 3 was releasedaugust of last year, 2023.
Guess how many millions ofcopies it has sold?
Now, it's not a staggeringnumber by any means.
This is the company thatreleased it, produced it and
(04:46):
created it is called lyrian, andthey're a relatively small
company, so this is easily thebiggest game they've ever put
out.
So take a guess on how manymillions of copies it sold and,
as I said, it's not a staggeringnumber, but it is absolutely 10
, 10 million.
Ten Ten million.
"Headhunter" Higgins (05:03):
Ten million.
"$awbuck" Mike (05:03):
Yeah, very respectable, very, very
respectable.
Now, contrast that with Skyrim,which was released on, of
course, november 2011.
11-11.
"Headhunter" Higgins (05:15):
Yeah.
"$awbuck" Mike (05:15):
So how many millions of copies do you think
Skyrim has sold, and all thistakes into account?
"Headhunter" Higgins (05:21):
And they've released it like yeah,
all the re-releases, all theplatforms all the re-releases
this is more impressive 100million, 60 million.
"$awbuck" Mike (05:31):
Wow, that's a lot of fucking video games, bro.
A lot is another impressivenumber.
I told you I logged about 49hours on boulders gate 3, but
when I look and I haven't playedskyrim probably in a year, but
when I look at the hours onskyrim I'm at 480 something,
(05:52):
which is pretty impressive offthe charts and then when my son,
he's into this game calledgenshin impact and he's logged
over 900 hours.
"Headhunter" Higgins (06:03):
It's just like fuck dude, like yeah, a
work week is 40 hours you knowlike think about that gaming is
the main pastime of uh peoplenowadays n64 and like solo games
and shit like that.
When we were young, that shitwas fun.
It was not, as you know,readily available.
(06:24):
You wanted to game with yourfriends.
You had to go to their house,like, and if you were gaming you
were just trying to like beat atask.
You weren't just like fullyfucking immersed in another
world escapism.
Yeah, you were like adhdfocusing on something else, like
trying to beat this platformergame.
But you know what I mean?
It wasn't just like anotherworld to fucking escape into,
like some of these superadvanced games and just endless
(06:46):
fucking hours of uh battleroyale shooters, just like.
I don't know, I miss the oldgaming.
"$awbuck" Mike (06:54):
Play some old platformers and like toy story
fucking n64 or whatever likegoofball game that's super hard
to get a hold of nowadays sothere's an n64 game and I almost
didn't graduate high schoolbecause of this game, because my
friends and I we would leaveschool early and we would go
(07:15):
play this game, because it wasthe first of its kind first
person shooter where you couldplay on the same console four
people versus each other.
Do you know what game I'mtalking about?
"Headhunter" Higgins (07:28):
Was it Halo?
"$awbuck" Mike (07:29):
It was not, it was before Halo.
Halo was an Xbox thing.
"Headhunter" Higgins (07:32):
GoldenEye.
"$awbuck" Mike (07:33):
GoldenEye.
Yes, sir, ding ding ding Brutal.
Fucking 007, goldeneye bro man,that game.
I still remember the facility,the complex.
I mean these are levels thatare To this day.
I can hear certain songs, like,for instance, when I was like
10 years old we lived in anapartment and I remember playing
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Super Mario 2.
"Headhunter" Higgins (07:57):
And.
"$awbuck" Mike (07:58):
I remember putting on certain cassette
tapes back then, and if I hearthe song today, it can take me
to that place when I was a10-year-old kid playing that
game, the power of music dude,there's nothing like it, you
know.
"Headhunter" Higgins (08:11):
It is weird how we can immediately be
brought back to a certain sense,whether it was from a song or a
sound or a smell or a locationor whatever.
The fuck can bring you back tothat feeling that you had.
I'm sure there's a name forthat phenomenon.
"$awbuck" Mike (08:26):
I'm sure you know who would probably know the
name of that phenomenon, whoseems to know a lot of shit that
people don't really seem tocatch on to what he's doing
until years later.
Who Brooks Agnew, former guest.
"Headhunter" Higgins (08:38):
Yeah, we got to get him as a return guest
.
"$awbuck" Mike (08:40):
No doubt so for people that are listening right
now that may not have heard ourprevious episode we're referring
to With Brooks Agnew.
Brooks Agnew is, first off,he's a fucking super smart dude.
He's an engineer, brilliant guy.
To sum it up quickly, he isknown for Hollow Earth.
However, it's not so much thathe's like this big proponent in
(09:02):
Hollow Earth, he is a scienceguy and he was explaining on the
podcast to Tom and I how therewas this expedition in the North
Pole region and one of the waysthey're able to track some kind
of science is through thestingrays.
I guess remember what he wassaying, how their species is
very, or certain stingrays arevery sensitive and delicate to
(09:24):
certain changes, so they're ableto kind of tell certain things
from that.
Well, he was explaining howyears ago there was this anomaly
where there was thousands ofstingrays that have since been
extinct, and so from that he waspostulating that there has to
be an inner Earth Ocean.
And the reason why I'm bringingthis up is because recently I
(09:48):
shared an article that I cameacross with Tom.
It has since been published ona few different websites.
It looks like he's kind of beenproven correct here.
Look at the headline of thisGigantic ocean discovered 700
kilometers below Earth's surfaceHolds three times more water
than all oceans combined.
Let me read the first paragraph.
(10:08):
Check this out, it's legitimate.
Researchers at northwesternuniversity at evan state,
illinois, have discovered amassive subterranean ocean three
times the size of earth surfaceoceans hidden beneath the
earth's crust, the planet'scrust, challenging existing
theories on the origin ofearth's water.
So northwestern university,that's no fucking minor league
(10:33):
school, they're elite.
So dude, to me that's just kindof like fucking right, that's
nuts.
"Headhunter" Higgins (10:39):
It opens up so many possibilities well,
brooks pretty much said as much,as far as a bunch of academic
people being uh on board withwhat he was figuring out and
agreeing with him.
He essentially said as much too, that there was like a a
massive amount of hollow terraindetected within the studies and
shit like miles and miles andmiles, so to say it's bigger
(11:02):
than the other oceans too.
"$awbuck" Mike (11:03):
Yeah, I mean nothing surprising to hear now
and do you, I mean everybodyshould know that people should
be having conversations aboutthat.
Like people should know that.
You know my mom should becalling me being like michael.
Did you know?
You know?
Like people should know thisshit instead like be cool, right
, dude.
"Headhunter" Higgins (11:18):
And what if there's a godzilla gonna step
out?
"$awbuck" Mike (11:21):
no doubt, you're in my head because I was gonna
ask you.
There's a difference between measking you what do you think's
possible and what do you thinkis likely possible.
So what do you think is likelydown inside of the earth,
knowing that all of this, thiswater is there, and what water
is the basis for life?
"Headhunter" Higgins (11:43):
fuck, dude , probably all types of crazy
ass, ancient sea life andprobably some sort of atlantis
or nephilim, slash, anunnaki orsea kingdom type of thing, or
like the nazi inner earth theoryof hollow earth bases and shit
like that or like a anotherecosystem within.
I'm open to anything, dude.
(12:04):
I think it's just not.
It's not what they're tellingus.
"$awbuck" Mike (12:06):
If they say, oh well, it's just a dead ocean or
something like yeah, no, there's, there's more to it see, I used
to think that aliens called theocean their homes because of
all the USO sightings and somany people claiming to see UFOs
rise and descend into water.
And now I'm kind of beenleaning towards them perhaps
(12:29):
residing inside of the earth.
And I'm not saying that's allof them, because I don't believe
that all of them reside there.
I I don't even know if, I don'teven believe they're all in the
same dimension, but I think theones that are terrestrial, I
think that they do reside insideof the hollow earth.
"Headhunter" Higgins (12:46):
I I mean, that's what the evidence shows,
yeah just as many mythology orlike origin tales or like
folklore and shit, has thedeities or gods or beings coming
from the sky, you know, comingdown from the sky, which they
always purport to be aliens.
There's just as many of themcoming out of the sea or
reportedly were reported to havecome from the sea, and quite a
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few underground tales as welltoo.
So yeah, man, all bets are on.
Are they extra-dimensional?
The majority of the beings thatinteract with Earth and that we
talk about on this type of show?
Is it outer space aliens flyinghere from another place?
Is it things that liveunderground on our world that
have lived here for the longesttime?
Is it an ancient being from theocean?
(13:30):
Is it demons?
Is it angels?
Who the fuck knows, man?
"$awbuck" Mike (13:33):
Brooks knows we're here for it all.
"Headhunter" Higgins (13:35):
He does seem to think that they're
extraterrestrials, yeah.
"$awbuck" Mike (13:38):
That's a fun one .
We do have to get him back Iffor anything else, just so we
can come on here and gloat for alittle bit.
You know, he also mentionedduring our conversation that he
he tried to get funding for likea TV show, remember, Right?
Yeah, I wonder if this wouldhelp that you would think that
that would help the cause.
You know this recent finding, soyeah we got questions for
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Brooks, we got to get him backon.
So psyops Okay, when I saypsyops are a fairly recent
creation, you have to let meexplain.
Obviously, psyops have beengoing on for forever, forever.
In the bible there are psyops.
What I mean is the term psyopis thrown around in everyday
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language now right, very, veryliberally.
And that's what I mean by thethe.
You know, the psyops are kindof a new thing for people.
"Headhunter" Higgins (14:33):
It's like.
"$awbuck" Mike (14:34):
You know what I mean.
It's a weird thing becausepeople are using it.
Everything is a psyop nowadays.
People are saying so when I askyou the question is TikTok a
psyop?
I'm not being facetious, I'mnot trying to be funny.
I'm being honest, becausethere's a lot of real smart
people in the know that seem tothink and fucking seem to know
(14:56):
that TikTok is a psyop.
So I wanted to kind of talk toyou about this and I don't know
much about it.
I did watch a podcast andGeneral Robert Spalding was kind
of talking about this, so I didtake some, some notes that you
know I could.
I wanted to bounce off you andsee what you think.
So by no means am I an experton this at all, but I did want
(15:18):
to see where you were at with itnow, I'm certainly no tiktok
expert either.
"Headhunter" Higgins (15:22):
I don't have an account.
A lot of people have told me Ishould make one, you know,
content creating or whatever Ido, and I, uh, probably should,
but I really don't want tobecause I have felt that it's
been a psyop all along.
What is a psyop?
A psychological operation whichis designed to have an effect
on the mind of the people whoare the intended targets of it.
(15:42):
I guess, yeah, I think it'smade everybody who's fucking
grew up on it and used itstupider and shorter attention
span.
And yeah, I'm sure there's goodstuff on there too, but I'm
sure majority of the time it'sjust dancing and ass shaking and
just dumb ass stuff.
And then taking data, takingall these facial apps and stuff
like the aging challenges orwhatever the filters, and it's
(16:04):
it's textbook psyop, if you askme.
"$awbuck" Mike (16:07):
Yes, I have never downloaded tiktok.
I've never fucked with it.
I've always, like you, thoughtit was a psyop.
And, yeah, the show doesn'thave one.
I don't have one.
You know, maybe if one daywe're doing 50 million downloads
per and we need to, fine, we'llcross that bridge when we get
(16:27):
there.
But until that time comes, nofucking tick tock for for this
guy.
So check this out some of thethings that I was able to find,
some of the things I thoughtwere amusing.
So on reddit, I was able tofind this interesting subreddit
where the title is what doestick tock actually do?
(16:49):
That so Bad?
And the top comment on thethread is I'm starting to
believe that TikTok is a form ofChinese hybrid warfare.
Is TikTok worse than the otherhundred apps I have on my phone?
I installed a firewall loggeron my Android phone and saw
things like Etsy app sendingmessages to Facebook when I was
(17:12):
not even running the Etsy appand had not run it for months.
Another app showing the phasesof the moon was trying to send
messages when I have not run theapp for over six months.
It looks to me like everythingon my phone is trying to spy on
me.
What does the TikTok app dothat makes it worse than the
rest of these apps.
(17:32):
And then you know there's acouple of people that go on to
mention some things that make itworse.
But yeah, I mean, why do you?
Why would you have, you know,etsy and a Moonphase app
communicating with each otherwhen you haven't used one of the
apps in over half a year?
So why wouldn't Etsy app needto talk to a moon phase app when
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the moon phase app hasn't evenbeen used in six months, like
when you're not even around, noteven using it?
There's no good reason for thatcreepy right.
Yeah, some other things that Ifound that I wanted to share
with you and get your thoughtson.
So this guy on x says tiktok isa communist chinese
brainwashing psyop to trickamerican children into opposing
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us foreign policy.
It's like havana syndrome forbig tech alumni.
What do you think they?
"Headhunter" Higgins (18:20):
can make it whatever the hell they want.
And the surveillance shitscares me like dude.
Nothing is private anymore.
They're fucking, you know bankaccount.
They're fucking social media.
They're, uh, political beliefs.
They're the things that theytype on their phone, the things
that they search type of pornthey watch.
They, they know whatscreenshots.
They know, like they have afull fucking profile on
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everybody.
Like it's crazy.
Like what is that gonna be usedfor?
Is ai just gonna like knoweverything about everyone?
Like that's what they reallywant here.
"$awbuck" Mike (18:49):
So I, I don't remember exactly where this
information.
"Headhunter" Higgins (18:51):
It was some numerology guy or something
on tinfoil or someone's show,and I've used this because it's
a crazy alignment.
I may have mentioned it on herebefore too, but I'm going to
add in the point that I thinkties it all together, that my
buddy added so this was not onthe original place that I heard
it 1968 was Bush graduating,george Bush Jr, whatever,
(19:13):
whatever.
Hw bush the younger one, 9-11one.
He graduated from skull andbones and yale in 1968.
The world trade centerconstruction started in 1968.
The boeing plane model thatended up hitting the twin towers
was rolled out to the publicand made available in 1968.
The new york jets won their oneand only Super Bowl in 1968.
(19:36):
And the numbers 911 was madethe standard national emergency
number.
It used to be different, likearound in different places, but
in 1968, they made it theuniversal emergency number 911.
So all those events thenculminate on 9-11.
George Bush, who was in hissecret society, just graduated,
happens to be the president ofNew York and the president when
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New York gets hit with the 9-11in 2001.
The same plane that hit it,created in the same year that he
graduated.
The World Trade Centerconstruction started in the same
year as that, the New York Jetsonly Super Bowl 9-1-1 all being
put together.
So talk about a psyop.
9-11 was a psyop.
Made that far back people belike what?
(20:20):
That far back like?
Yeah, dude, it's probablyhundreds of years back, maybe
not to the exact date that theywere going to do what, but like
fulfilling the plan of thesesecret societies.
100 and uh, the thing that myfriend added then because he's a
big movie guy, like when I wastrying to convince my other
friends that he said, oh, yeahand uh, 1968 was 2001, a space
odyssey too.
(20:41):
And I was like holy shit, likebecause kubrick's always
associated with you know, likerevealing stuff, or he's like
very mentioned amongstpredictive programming or
subliminal messaging and stuff,and I, my other friends, like I
don't see, see how that has thetie, and I'm like well, it says
2001.
And then what's the theme ofthe movie?
It's like again 9-11, 2001.
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And I'm like what is the themeof the movie?
It's technology, aka ai, asupercomputer knowing and
controlling literally everything, to the point where it's like a
god government, like over man,all knowing, all, like powerful
thing, right, and I've actuallynever even still seen the movie
in its entirety.
But that's the theme now, likethe computer that takes over and
like is the mastermind ofeverything.
(21:24):
And tell me, 9-11 is not thestart of that, with the patriot
act and all the laws that waspassed after 9-11, the spying
that we just discussed of, likeour phones, all these things,
these service agreements andsecurity things that you have to
agree to, everything beingfilmed, everything being, you
know, airport stops, like pullover, like being detained,
searched all the time, like thattype of shit, was not the norm
(21:46):
before 9-11.
9-11 was used to set up thefuture, because what's that all
going to lead to?
Then the ai fucking controllingeverything and knowing
everything and having raps oneverybody.
And 9-11 was necessary to getto that point, because that's
how they justified all these youknow invasions of privacy,
leading up to the point we arenow, and we're all perfectly
(22:07):
okay with it at all well, I'mnot doing anything and just
meanwhile, yeah, they fucking,they got us all okay.
"$awbuck" Mike (22:13):
So I want to talk about a bunch of things.
Number one I remember what Iwas going to say and I'm going
to say it right now, just so ifI forget it again before we get
there, you can remember ithavana syndrome it was mentioned
in the tweet that I read to you, but before we get into that.
So 9-11 as a psyop, I 100%think there's a lot of fuckery
(22:37):
with 9-11.
In my mind, it's hard for me tothink that they put the plans
in motion to do what they did toit in 69.
Not saying that it's notpossible, I just don't.
I don't know.
Maybe I mean that's a lot offucking coincidences.
I don't know.
(22:57):
I mean there's definitely.
I definitely think that theyknew about it.
You know, I honestly don't know.
I should probably be morewell-researched on the whole.
You know the whole 9-11, becausethere's so many different
conspiracies that go into it.
Like I just found out from thatdocumentary that came out last
year that there was anotherplane that had a bomb on it that
never left the airport.
Did you ever hear about that?
No, dude, there's a fuckingdocumentary on hulu.
(23:20):
It's called uh, the other plane, or some shit like that.
It's.
It's crazy.
So there's so much to it that Istill don't know.
But yeah, I mean a whole bunchof fuckery.
Do you really think that theyput the plans in motion in 69 to
bring it down in 01?
"Headhunter" Higgins (23:35):
Yeah, I would not put it past them too.
To my understanding, thesepowers that be shadow government
motherfuckers are part of amillennia-old belief system and
secret cults serving in ancientfucking darkness or some shit
and taking commands forthousands of years on what to do
.
So how the fuck should?
(23:56):
I know it's way beyond crazythan even we believe.
But yeah, it seems to line upwith all those coincidences, if
you ask me.
And then my friend's littlequote about 2001, a space
odyssey, and me connecting thatto how 9-11 was part of it.
"$awbuck" Mike (24:13):
It definitely kind of adds like a whole new
layer to it.
I will say, though, that ourgovernment, they are extremely
adept at seeing an opportunityand fully taking advantage of
that, motherfucker.
"Headhunter" Higgins (24:30):
They already have a reaction
accounted for and then theypresent the solution that's
already pre-planned.
Mm-hmm.
"$awbuck" Mike (24:36):
And I definitely think there was a lot of that
going on.
Did you know, or do you know,what havana syndrome is?
Because I'm telling you, I hadno fucking idea.
I had to look it up, not byname.
So what is it?
See, if I maybe heard of it.
So havana syndrome, formerlyknown as anomalous health
incidence, is a disputed medicalcondition reported primarily by
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us diplomatic intelligence andmilitary officials stationed in
overseas locations.
Reported symptoms range inseverity, from pain and ringing
in the ears to cognitivedysfunction, and were first
reported by US and Canadianembassy staff in Havana, cuba,
hence the name.
(25:19):
Through earlier I'm sorry,though earlier incidents may
have occurred in Frankfurt,germany.
Starting in 2016 through 2021,several hundred US intelligence
and military officials and theirfamilies reported having
symptoms in overseas locationsincluding China, india, europe,
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hanoi, as well as Washington DC,which isn't a overseas location
.
So I don't know why that wasincluded in it.
But yeah, I mean there's more,but I think you get to jest.
That's kind of a weird one.
I never heard about that before.
"Headhunter" Higgins (25:54):
Can we ever trust anything told to us
about health or sickness everagain after the past couple
years?
"$awbuck" Mike (26:00):
No, no doubt, I feel like I barely can.
No, absolutely You're right.
The Havana syndrome, the way itwas described there, to me and
I'm untrained, full transparency.
I'm untrained, but to me thatsounds like bullshit.
It sounds like hey man, I don'tfeel good, maybe my ear is
ringing or maybe I have somebody aches, and well, you know
(26:23):
what you probably have havanasyndrome.
You know it's like really, ifyou're living your life overseas
, you're gonna have all the samestressors you would have at
home living your life right.
Most days go by.
You're either in pain, you'reaggravated.
You know there's maybe there'sringing in your ear, maybe you
bend down, you get lightheaded.
Those things happen.
I don't have fucking PlanoIllinois syndrome.
(26:44):
You know what I mean.
Like come on, I don't know.
So what do you think is goingon then?
I think people are full of shitand I think doctors are
psychopaths largely.
No, I'm not a medical denier,you know, doctors, the dichotomy
(27:06):
is a weird one because doctorsnearly killed my son.
Then a competent doctor savedmy son.
So I'm by no meansanti-medicine, I'm anti-bad
medicine and unfortunately whatI see most of the time now is
bad medicine.
So that's kind of why I takesuch a negative spin when I talk
about physicians usually,basically, I just think in part,
like if you give them, if yougive doctors an opportunity to
(27:29):
say that you have something, nodoctor is going to say you know
what?
You have a little ringing inyour ear, you're a little
lightheaded, you have somegeneral body pain, you know what
?
It's probably just nothing.
No doctor is going to say thatDoctors are going to be like, oh
well, you probably, but youcould have, let's run these
tests, let's do this, let's dothat, or you know, it could be
(27:50):
this, it could really, it couldbe, it could be, but it's
probably not.
I think most of it's probablyjust people are full of shit and
doctors like to fucking play.
God you know.
I'm sure there's legitimatecases.
Of course I'm not saying that,I just think it's.
It's like what's that one?
Okay, it's like fibromyalgia.
"Headhunter" Higgins (28:11):
You've heard of that I'm not even
familiar with what it's supposedto be it's disputed in the
medical community.
"$awbuck" Mike (28:16):
50 of the doctors don't think it's real.
It's more common for women tohave it, although men have
reportedly had it too.
There's no way you can prove it.
There's no test that you can doto say you have it.
There's no blood work you canget done to say that you have it
either.
Okay, it's general pain, it'spain, that's it.
You're about it where, all over, oh, you have fibromyalgia.
(28:38):
That's, that's the scent,that's what it is, that's what
it is.
So that's another case whereit's just like wow, I'm not
denying that they're in pain,but, dude, you reach 40, every
day, your fucking body is goingto ache.
You're an athlete, you know.
Oh dude, I'm hurting right now,that's what I'm saying dude, you
don't have fucking fibromyalgia, you have tom fucking goes way
(29:02):
too hard in the gym a phobia.
You know what I mean.
That's what you have.
You know you don't have someillness.
Yeah, I don't know and I'm not.
Like I said, I'm not when Italk to a lot of people and I
know I don't have to preface itwith you or even probably the
audience, but I feel like I haveto because I'm conditioned that
way.
You know, like peopleautomatically think oh, this
(29:22):
fucking, this guy's crazy, he'santi-medicine.
It's like no, I'm not.
Just because I don't believe incertain things, just because
I'm anti that and anti baddoctors, doesn't mean I'm
anti-medicine.
"Headhunter" Higgins (29:33):
Nobody can be one thing and another.
Nobody can have conflicting orvaried beliefs.
If you're one thing, you'reautomatically labeled into or
shoved into a box.
In the ever-devisive world thatwe're in, it's funny.
"$awbuck" Mike (29:47):
Mm-hmm.
I mentioned that I listened toa podcast with General Robert
Spalding.
Some of the notes I took.
I wanted to get your thoughtson them.
So in China, tiktok is not evenallowed.
I thought that was interesting.
Instead they have this thing.
It's called Douyin and it'sessentially it's a Chinese
(30:09):
language equivalent to TikTokand each kid is allowed 40
minutes per day on it.
But what is on it is theyhighlight scientific
achievements, mathematics,sports, that's it.
You're not going to find nobullshit on this Doian.
When they polled TikTok usersand then the Doian users, the
(30:34):
young kids from America andChina, the number one thing that
young kids want to be inAmerica is an influencer.
He explained how it's verydangerous, because what's
happening now is TikTok isinfluencing the behavior and the
behavior patterns of the youthand the people that use the app
(30:55):
and at the same time, they'rereducing national productivity
and they're molding the future,future generations.
They're corroding civilization.
They're corroding our rights byinfecting the youth.
This is the long game, man.
We've been playing fuckingcheckers and they've been
playing chess since 1969, whenwe were fucking building the,
(31:16):
the trade centers, you know shitsince 1766 and longer, no doubt
.
I mean about the future.
I don't have much hope for itand I don't like saying that,
but it's just like I don't know,man.
I just to where it was when Iwas young, to where it is now.
"Headhunter" Higgins (31:34):
It's almost unrecognizable, man,
pretty hard to plant in a head.
"$awbuck" Mike (31:38):
Expect normalcy shit does happen, but it is
never when we expect it, whichkind of leads me into a question
.
So when I was young, when I wasyounger, kind of exploring
these ideas, I was a hugenostradamus fan.
Oh yeah, I am not anymore,obviously, but I I would always
wonder if he knew all these likewhy couldn't we stop these
(32:00):
things?
And and then people wouldalways say things like well, you
know it's encoded, it's notmeant to find out.
It's like I just think that it'sreally shitty, that after it
happens, it's like really, canyou just one time, just one time
show me.
"Headhunter" Higgins (32:16):
Somebody decipher it for the future.
"$awbuck" Mike (32:19):
Yeah, I mean I don't know.
Am I wrong there for the future?
Yeah, I mean I don't know.
"Headhunter" Higgins (32:22):
Am I wrong there?
That's a fair critique that wecould just apply anything after
the fact, any obscure shit?
"$awbuck" Mike (32:30):
What are your feelings on Ostradamus?
"Headhunter" Higgins (32:32):
Who knows, man?
I do feel like there are somepsychic phenomenons.
Maybe he had a device or he hadan ability.
He used a bowl of water.
Who knows, bro?
Like there are psychic people,like I don't know if it's
because they're tapped into thespirit world, something is
telling them they can see thetimeline, maybe like past,
(32:52):
present and future all exist atthe same time and like you can
just sometimes get a glimpse.
But I've seen it firsthand,dated a girl who was undeniably
psychic.
Like I've had other weirdthings happen.
Like I do feel like people can,can, tap into stuff.
Like people have premonitions,like gut feelings, just like
story, or like, uh, you knowprophetic dreams and shit.
(33:14):
So who?
Who really knows?
Like it might say more about,like, what is time and
experience and stuff like thatit's not out of the realm of
possibility, but yeah, it isalways after the fact, nobody's
took in all of his otherwritings and laid out like hey,
here's what they're going to donext.
I'm sure there are peoplewho've tried or or put their
spin on it, but yeah, I don'tthink that, uh, we've been able
to use his things as a playbook,unless we're looking backwards.
"$awbuck" Mike (33:37):
Yeah and to your point, I believe in, like said,
dreams and all kinds of weirdshit.
I definitely, you know I don'thave the answer.
I know that there's definitelycrazy things that happen, but
with Nostradamus it's just likehim particularly.
It's like if you look at thequote, unquote predictions that
(33:58):
he's made successfully and youtake all the predictions that
he's made, he's less than 1%accurate.
Now some could say, well, youknow, we just haven't figured
what those ones, those otherquatrains, a quatrain is what he
called.
You know, each prediction was aquatrain because it was written
in four lines.
So some people could say, maybewe just haven't figured out what
(34:20):
I don't know.
And it broke my heart because Iwas a huge michelle nastradamus
fan.
You know, one thing that Ithink is kind of interesting is
leonardo da vinci painted themona lisa.
But have you ever seen thetheory that the mona lisa is
actually leonardo da vinci as awoman?
Because the dimensions, likewhen they mathematically did his
(34:41):
face and laid it over it waslike an identical match to her
Ever heard of that.
"Headhunter" Higgins (34:46):
No, I don't think I have.
What are your?
"$awbuck" Mike (34:49):
initial thoughts on that.
I just think he was doing it tolike fuck with people more or
less you know, because he didencode a lot of crazy shit in
his work.
Have you seen some of like theold Renaissance paintings that
have like UFOs in them and shit?
"Headhunter" Higgins (35:04):
Oh yeah.
"$awbuck" Mike (35:05):
Dude, that's the argument that I use when I'm
having a conversation about UFOswith people, when people want
to say, well, you know, itwasn't even a thing until
Kenneth Arnold saw them in 1943,and it's just like, or it's a
recent, I think it's thegovernment, it's the government.
(35:25):
Listen, I definitely think thegovernment has some crazy
technology, definitely hasthings in the sky that we don't
know about.
I'm not denying that.
But when people just write itall off to the government, it's
like, dude, there was nogovernment in the 1700s, 1600s
flying things, things in the sky, but yet here they are being
depicted you know what I mean.
"Headhunter" Higgins (35:46):
I have a theory too.
People have said that all thoserenaissance creators and stuff
are basically named after likeangels like michelangelo would
be like angel michael, andthey're saying like, oh, the
angels might have builtsomething else, or I don't know
what leonardo da vinci's namemeans.
I've looked it up upon time butleo definitely has to do with
life.
That is a nod to the gales, thegals, the gallic wars, the
(36:11):
druids, the, the knowledge thatwas stolen and, you know,
replaced by the catholic churchand whatever else, and masonry,
with his name being a referenceto galilee, where jesus was born
, and I don't know.
I think it's just a funnycover-up that they threw in and
be like actually this is whereour knowledge came from, huh
what's sad is uh, we'll probablynever know like the answer to
(36:32):
most of this shit.
"$awbuck" Mike (36:33):
I know we don't have the looking glass.
"Headhunter" Higgins (36:38):
If we did know, mike, we would be out of
show.
If everybody knew, or if weknew any of the answers, that's
the fun of it is questioning,questioning, questioning yeah,
that is the fun.
"$awbuck" Mike (36:46):
however, I just would like to know is that, when
my time here was done, that Iwould get the answer to all of
my questions?
If I knew that, yeah, that'd becool if that laid like, if I
knew that that was what happenedafter I expired, knew that I
was about to get all theseanswers to all these questions
(37:09):
I've had my whole life.
"Headhunter" Higgins (37:10):
Right dude , I like that I don't have any
reason to believe.
It shouldn't be that.
I, you know, have dabbled withall sorts of spiritualities.
You know, have dabbled with allsorts of spiritualities and
when I was kind of like, oh shit, I think there's something to
jesus and whatever recently, asyou or anyone who's heard us
talk about this type of stuff,but I still definitely don't
(37:31):
fall in line at all with anyreligion or like even like the
bible itself is a book writtenby man.
Yeah, they say it's whateverthe word of god inspired by man.
But but at the same time, dude,all these different kings, all
these different secret societies, all these different people
have edited it, taken things out, added things in, changed
things up.
I know how evil a lot of thesereligious institutions and shit
(37:53):
are, so I feel weird even to tryand say that I am a Christian
or this or that, and like theDruidry, and I just think that
religion is a massive psyop,everything like that resonates
with me, for sure.
But all this other stuff likethat.
But I like to believe.
Yeah, I will get some sort ofclosure or answers or whatever
(38:16):
when the time has come, isreligion the first psyop.
Fuck man, probably, and Ibelieve that at a time it
probably wasn't and it wascloser to what it should be.
If there is a purpose, is, Iguess, as far as what I'm saying
is a form of spirituality,that's I don't know sustainable
and god-based, sustainabilitybased and abundance based, and
(38:41):
not, uh, condemnation andgoverning and rules and death
worship and fucking fear and allthat like that's.
That's the clear psyop and Ibelieve it was flipped on its
head at some point.
"$awbuck" Mike (38:54):
But I would say, yeah, religion has always been
used as a psyop, bringing thissession full circle, kind of.
I used to have a theory, notnecessarily a theory.
I used to have an idea, an ideathat I thought would be really
cool that would happen when wedied.
I thought this would be reallycool if.
(39:16):
If this is what happened,wouldn't it be cool if, when we
did expire from this earth,wouldn't it be cool if you got
to pick, like a video game or amovie or something like that,
like what?
you want your Skyrim.
I want to when I go?
(39:36):
I want to go into the Skyrimworld.
So boom, you get transportedinto the video game.
But it's not a video game,though.
It's the real thing.
It's just you're in skyrim thegame, but it's real.
It's like real, like not acartoon, it's real.
"Headhunter" Higgins (39:50):
Wouldn't that be cool if it's just
whatever your mind and spiritwants.
A lot of people believe thattype of uh afterlife where would
you?
pick.
I don't know man.
I used to kind of like the ideaof like some valhalla shit I'm
not gonna lie, or but I feellike Valhalla is also like the
original jihad psyop.
Like don't you think that theIslamist extremist guys that are
trying to get somebody to godie for them, or like Japanese
(40:12):
kamikaze soldiers, like thatthey're, you know, being swayed
by the leadership, like, hey,you gotta go die for this.
Like, if you do, you'll be likeyou know, into know in a
paradise and you'll have allthis, you'll have all these
virgins, you'll be honored,you'll have like a fucking
million chariots in theafterlife.
If you go like kill yourselffor this, the Vikings was the
same ship For some reason, wethink that's cool and badass.
(40:32):
Like, oh, you go die sick tojust fight reborn, fight, feast,
reborn.
But I don't know man, Iprobably would want to be in
some Shire type of shit.
Send me to some badass forest-yrealm.
(40:55):
I do want to get some fightingon.
So I don't know.
"$awbuck" Mike (40:57):
The Jarl of.
"Headhunter" Higgins (40:58):
Windhelm.
"$awbuck" Mike (40:59):
I used to be an adventurer like you.
Then I took an arrow in theknee.
"Headhunter" Higgins (41:05):
Exactly.
Tell me, fucking Vikingchieftains, pushing that on them
is any different than akamikaze or a jihadist.
"$awbuck" Mike (41:12):
I've never thought Religious extremist yeah
, they're religious extremists.
"Headhunter" Higgins (41:15):
They were terrorists, the berserkers and
shit.
"$awbuck" Mike (41:18):
The Odinist was basically a religious extremist
I've never thought about it, butthe way that, yeah, the way
that you laid it out, itabsolutely.
There's no difference betweenwhat they did there than what
the japanese did with thekamikazes or the muslims do with
the 900 virgins or whatever youknow.
(41:39):
There's no different.
"Headhunter" Higgins (41:40):
Yeah, that's, I never thought about
that, but that's interesting,that's crazy you could put it on
any spin, the crusaders andshit, like they were like, all
right, well, whatever, if I diein battle, I'll be with jesus,
I'll be with whatever.
The celtic warriors, and likethe gauls and the irish and shit
, believed in another world,like they basically believed
that it wasn't like a heaven.
It was just like you live inanother version of the world
(42:01):
once you die and when people areborn into the world that we're
in, that they were coming fromthe other world.
And so they even fought nakedand like they made armor, like
they actually invented chainmail.
But a lot of times they wouldjust fight shirtless for sure,
or even just straight up naked,because they were like, oh I
don't care, dude, if I'm meantto die, then I'm meant to die.
Like, if the gods are on myside, then I'll win because I'm
(42:23):
a badass, and if I die, thenI'll just go to the other world.
That's what they wanted, it wasmy time.
So they just fought completelyfearlessly.
So the ancient Celtic versionof a religious fanatic,
terrorist, extremist would havebeen a naked, charging guy,
painted or tattooed, who justdidn't give a shit if he went to
(42:44):
the other world or not.
He just wanted to go outbrawling for the fun of it.
"$awbuck" Mike (42:47):
So if you had to pick a video game that your
body, your soul, everythingabout you when you go, would be
transported into this video game, what game would you pick?
"Headhunter" Higgins (43:00):
Shit.
I better pick a good one,because who knows if they're
going to try and upload ourconsciousness?
Um, I would say I skyrim doessound really fucking fun, like
just being able to attack andfight these fucking crazy
creatures.
And what?
What race were you in skyrim?
"$awbuck" Mike (43:17):
well, I had a couple different characters, but
the one that I would findmyself going to most, a Khajiit,
maybe Nice, I definitelyclacked the most on an orc.
"Headhunter" Higgins (43:29):
I definitely clacked the most on
an orc Just brutal fucking melee.
But I had an Argonian too whowas like thiefy and I love
Argonians.
"$awbuck" Mike (43:37):
Yeah, I like the Argonians too.
The Argonian ale, the skooma,did you play ES elder scrolls
online?
Okay, so I'm.
I was so excited I got it and Iput I was like this is fucking
different this is not I don't, Idon't like it, I didn't like it
(43:58):
it's the only type of game likethat I ever played.
"Headhunter" Higgins (44:01):
But yeah, totally different experience.
Mmorpg like yeah, dude, I had aguild that would play with my
friends, like it.
I went hard on that shit foryears, like I took some time off
, but for years I played mad esoand I I liked it.
It was fun definitely some ofthe funner gaming experiences I
had but wasted a lot of time onit.
Fucking game had poorperformance too, like.
"$awbuck" Mike (44:21):
But yeah, it was a very immersive game for sure
yeah, games are so fun, dude, Ithrow my headphones on, plug
that bitch into the ps5controller and I just go.
It's just fun.
You could hear like everylittle like from him walking,
like, from the characterswalking on like like a wooden
bridge to like the concrete tothe brick.
(44:43):
You could hear like thedifferent fucking tones and it's
incredible man Having theprivilege to just watch video
games from 1989 to where theyare now it's just like, wow,
Like it's crazy, you got to gowith it Sure did dude.
"Headhunter" Higgins (44:59):
Well, shit , you're making me kind of want
to game tonight.
There you go.
"$awbuck" Mike (45:01):
I'm probably going to.
Well, I don't know, maybe if Iget some fucking food in me, I
might play some Elder Scrolls.
You got anything Elder Scrolls?
No, fucking Bowler's Gate 3.
"Headhunter" Higgins (45:12):
Yeah, you should look into Bannerlord dude
Probably the best game of alltime and any of the people out
there who like the art of war,you know that is the fucking
game.
Banner hard banner, lord banner, mountain blade.
What is mountain blade?
So that's the series.
You like on a horseback, likeyou mount a horse and you can
fucking fuck some people up.
It's like a like a civilizationtype of game, but also, like I
(45:36):
said, you get to battle.
It's like imagine call of duty,fucking with axes and swords
and spears, but instead of justeveryone being 1v1, like it's,
you know, just a computer world,like a immersive world, and
you're fighting other armies andyou're controlling your army on
the field while you're fighting.
It's sick, wow that soundscrazy.
"$awbuck" Mike (45:57):
Do they have, uh , any questionable kind of
characters like we mean?
You know, like people you mighthave to stay away from.
It's a whole.
It's a whole like Do they haveany questionable kind of
characters?
Like, what do you mean?
"Headhunter" Higgins (46:07):
You know, like people you might have to
stay away from.
It's a whole like pedophiles.
It's a whole running empire orcivilization.
There's like a bunch ofdifferent factions.
There's like a Viking culture,there's two like empire, like
Roman and Byzantine empirecultures.
There's like an english knightempire thing, there's a celtic
one, there's a arab one, there'sa mongolian like horse based
(46:30):
one.
That's fucking sick and you canlike take territories all
around the world and likeconquer castles and like be at
war with all these differentnations and start wars with them
and so, yeah, you get fucked upand and you get your whole army
wiped out and you get arrested.
It's an intense game, bro.
"$awbuck" Mike (46:46):
Did you ever play Risk the board game?
"Headhunter" Higgins (46:49):
Never Wow.
"$awbuck" Mike (46:51):
Do you know what it is?
"Headhunter" Higgins (46:51):
That's one of the few.
I don't really know the premiseof it.
"$awbuck" Mike (46:54):
It's like World War II.
You have the Axis and theAllies.
There's actually a better gamethat's called axis and allies
and it's uh, it's risk is aripoff of that game, but some of
those games can go for weekslike that's wild it's yeah,
because it's literally likeworld domination kind of shit
(47:14):
dude.
But yeah, I was wondering, Iwas wondering if there's any
people you had to stay away from, like pedophiles.
Guitar solo I'm out.
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