29 | Shane Sedore | Secret Realities, Hidden Truths, and The Shadow Elite | "Illuminati Insider" - Conspiracy and Chill Podcast

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"$awbuck" Mike (00:01):
The Nephilim sightings are going to start
soon.

"Headhunter" Higg (00:04):
Consciousness has been enslaved.

Your consciousness does not need your
physical body to survive.

Shane Sedore (00:11):
It's the thing that's necessary.
It has to be there.

It's the coding that projects this world we
currently live in.
I want you to read the Bible.

We got reptilians just outside of our frequency
zone.

Six dimensional beings, the ancient builder race
.
Ideas are the highest form ofintelligence, and that leads you
to truth and clarity.

The Nephilim sightings are going to stall
soon.
Conspiracy show.

It's obvious the aliens are god-fearing and
insanely huge.
We're just one planet.
They would have needed aminimum of six feet of lead
shielding in order to getthrough the 25,000 mile thick of
nl and radiation belt.
This is real.
They really did fake the moon.
The world is infinitely olderthan that.
And I mean the world with humanbeings in it, skull and bones,
is like one of the villains inthe legion of doom, they said.

"Headhunter" Higgins (00:57):
I'll let you read the bible the biblical
flood, the tartaria mud floodconspiracy and chill the
nephilim sightings are going tostart soon.
The bulldog ball I don't wantyou to read the bible.
There's magnets in thebasketballs.
There was a political party, athird party called the
anti-masonic party, at a pointin uh.

In the united states, the global pandemic
treaty conspiracy and chillpodcast uh, so my legal name is
shane bales, conspiracy andChill Podcast.

I think of it more like an internet meme or kind
of a placeholder for a conceptand idea, which is that, you
know, our world is run by cultsand there is a cult that has

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infiltrated all of those cultsto make sure that all those
cults do what cults do.
And you know that the top of thepyramid would be a small group
of people that, going back toabout 11,000 years ago, were
convinced that their bloodlineswere somehow superior, and so
they tried to keep the power ina bloodline situation for, you

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know, a few thousand years andeventually, you know today,
that's all fallen away from them.
So the bloodlines don't matteras much, but the family names
still do, and the tie-ins andthe ownership of properties and
corporations and all of thosethings still do.
So nowadays I actually call theIlluminati the Umbrella
Corporation, which I stole fromResident Evil, because that's a

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lot more of what they represent,because it's not so much the
bloodlines like it used to be,it's more just people who are
willing to play along with theirsystems and follow along with
their cults and make sure thatculture creation happens the way
that they want it to.
I come from families that arerelated to those bloodlines I
mentioned, and over the yearswhat they've done is just kind

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of monitor those bloodlines forpeople who have what they call
hypersensory perceptions,blatant psychic abilities,
things like that, and I wasidentified very young as being
one of those people, and so theystarted to indoctrinate me into
their various cults and theywere grooming me, if I can use
that word.
Hopefully YouTube doesn't hearit the wrong way.

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They were grooming me for aspecific type of role within
their organization, and in orderfor that to happen, they needed
to give me kind of an overviewof how all these cults worked.
So I became kind of an experton cults, but not a specific one
just how they all kind of workin concert to, you know,
infiltrate the governments andeverything else on the planet.
It's what we call culturecreation, so basically leading

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society around in a way that hasa specific outcome that they
have predetermined.
So I started that when I wasabout four, when I was about 19,
.
I was trying to get out.
I tried to get out before that,it didn't go so well, but at 19
, I kind of put my foot downthat I was either going to kill
myself or they were going to letme out.
So you can get out of thesethings.

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It just comes at a pretty highprice and it takes some time.
So I started that process when Iwas 19 and it ended between 26
and 30, as an example, and sincethen I've been kind of free of
them, other than I speakpublicly about my experiences
with them and get the occasionalslap on the wrist from a former
employer or something like that.

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But other than that, yeah, I tryto talk people down off the
conspiracy ledge more often thanI put them up on it or help
coax them out of rabbit holes,that they're a little bit too
stuck in more than I like toshove them down it.
But yeah, that's kind of beenmy overview.
That involved what people inthe conspiracy community would

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typically call mystery schoolstypically called mystery schools
.
So you know a whole othereducation system that's based on
a whole other understanding ofhistory, a whole other
understanding of science, awhole other understanding of
just about any topic you canthink of, and also, at the same
time, simultaneously goingthrough the public school system
so that I could understand thedifferences, basically
understanding how the public arebeing indoctrinated into one

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path while they are actuallyhiding this whole other path
from us.

So when you were young, these people kind of
sought you out and indoctrinatedyou with their ideology.

Yeah, that was where it starts right and I'm
not unique.
There's probably thousands,millions of people who have been
swooped up into, especially inthe modern times when they got
away from the bloodlines, whichI'll kind of get into more of
their programs, projects andcults.
But, yeah, because of thefamily tie, they identified me
quickly and then because of myabilities and the way that they

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wanted because they study humanpotential and they've been
turning it into technology studyhuman potential and they've
been turning it into technologybut because I had those
abilities, they wanted to use meto study them.
And so where it starts is I wasbasically gifted to someone who
was a higher level member oftheirs almost I apologize if
this triggers anyone in theaudience, but it was considered
a pet.
I was a pet to this person andthey were more or less what you

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guys might know as a handler.
So they would, you know, be aperson that was kind of
indentured to and would makesure that my education uh,
followed the what they wanted itto and so on, and that person I
can't name, one of the mainrules of getting out was to keep
names and locations secret,which is more uh for your
protection than mine.
But uh, the idea is you not toname names and name and

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locations.
But as an example, my firsthandler was a publicly known
politician figure up here inCanada.

So it's like you're using your powers to get
in my head, because I was justgoing to ask you was it, did it
have anything to do withgovernment, or was it kind of
just separate from that?

It's not always government, I mean, it's police
forces, it's fire departments,it's education system, it's
religions, it's anything thatshapes society.
They have a finger in for thatreason.
So the members can be and arein all of those different groups
, and one of the things that Isee people online trying to

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always do is like boil it downto like one race or one cult or
one group of you know, these arethe masterminds and they've
been very clever to make surethat they're in all of them so
that you can't actually do that.
And another thing I always sayis like the highest members of
their organization, we don'tknow their names.
Um, you know, if you make it inthe, in the public world,
everybody knows your name, butas soon as you make it in their

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world, nobody's gonna ever beable to find your name.

so, but as soon, as you make it in their world.
Nobody's going to ever be ableto find your name, so where
would you recommend starting?

I'm not sure it depends on what you guys want to
hear about, really, because Icould go in a million different
directions myself.
But yeah, so to boil downbasically what they've been
doing, especially since aroundthe end of World War II, they
broke up into basically threecategories, which are programs,
projects and cults.
Cults, that's obvious, andcults have always existed.

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Projects would be when theystart to bring cult ideologies
into society, right.
When they start to teach acertain country, a certain
religion and get them allindoctrinated into that over
history, those would beconsidered projects.
Get them all indoctrinated intothat over history, those would
be considered projects.
And so in modern day it's more,you know, getting certain
curriculums into schools,getting certain projects into
Netflix, things like that.

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But that would be the idea of aproject is bringing things that
came from the cults intosociety.
And then the programs came alittle bit later.
They're run by the cults, butwhat a program refers to is them
basically learning humanpotential, things like magic,
things like psychic abilities,telekinesis, all of that

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different stuff which we nowknow the CIA has been playing
with as well.
That's one of the type ofthings, right, but being able to
learn all of that stuff andthen kind of do what they have
done through the CIA, where theymake us all believe that it was
bunk and it was no nonsense.
Well, meanwhile they weremeasuring it and studying it to
a point where they've been ableto recreate it all with
technology.

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And the reason why they've donethat is because if you know how
to do magic and you know how todo these things for yourself,
you're dangerous to them.
But if you have all of thosesame things with technology,
you're probably not going tothink that you're just actually
capable of those things.
So there's a famous quotethrough Arthur C Clarke that's
actually kind of reversed, whichis technology indistinguishable

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from magic, right, and so thatkind of feeds us into being like
these aliens have all thesehidden technology that's
indistinguishable from magic,which is true.
But you know, the magic issomething that we have already
had in history, and so a lot ofwhat the occult has been is
burying all of that truth,hiding all of that human
potential, what we might call orconsider to be magic and

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psychic abilities, things likethat, telling us the truth out
of one side of their face butalso fictionalizing it out of
the same side of their face, allthe while selling back to us
technology that just mimics whatwe're already capable of.
So that's what the programs werefor was to bring people who had
, you know, psychic abilities,were mediums, anything you could

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think of that kind of fallsinto that ballpark in, test them
, run them through a series ofdifferent you know diagnostic
machines, as example, so thatthey could measure all of the
things that make it happen, andthen telling the public that
it's not possible and everybodythinks that this is crazy and
should be cast off to the side,into the fringe, while they sell

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us technology that they learnedhow to create based on that.
So it's funny because we alwayscall it reverse engineered
technology, and you know that inthat sense it's also true,
because they're reverseengineering us into technology,
not to say that they're not also, to follow your imagery,
reverse engineering othertechnologies as well.

but yeah, wow, I guess I got a two-parted
question.
So when you were young and youwere exhibiting, what was it?
Was it like you werespiritually sensitive, you kind
of had a like clairvoyance, oryou were showing like signs of
psychic.
Like how was it discovered?
And like, was it by the school?
Or like what exactly was it sothen?

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And then the other half beforeI forget is when you said that
they were indoctrinating youfrom a young age.
Was it to do with that type ofstuff?
Like just like a totallydifferent worldview?
Was it spiritual?
Was it kind of like oh, we'rebetter than everyone else,
you're like special, you're this.

Yeah, that's for the second half of your practice
.
That's the dangling carrot thatkeeps everybody in that.
Right, we're special, we'rebetter than you, right, and a
lot of people believe that andthey follow that.
But going back to the beginningof your question, um, I was
freaking my relatives out bydoing things that children
shouldn't be able to do, I guess.
Um, the way my mother told thestory was I didn't talk until I
was about three and when I did,they found me sitting in my room

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staring at a wall and speakingword for word, all of the
never-ending story.
It was the movie, thenever-ending story, great and
right.
And they said I was juststaring at a wall running
through the script and it scaredthe bejesus out of everybody.
And then, yeah, I was answeringquestions that weren't being
asked to me and things like that, shortly following that.

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And so a member of my family isyou know, he's dead now, but he
was a very high-level Freemason, he was what we would call a
worshipful grandmaster ofFreemasonry, and he found out
and just basically handed me in,turned me in.
Oh, I found one.
Here's one.
He happens to be related to me.
So so, yeah, so that was whereit started.

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And then what they do is theykind of?
They nurture those abilities,right?
They teach me more about why Ican pick up thoughts from people
.
They explain to me why you know, occasionally, when I get
really mad, things will goflowing across the room or the
weather will change along withthese, and how to control that
and make it not happen or, likeyou mentioned, use it in
specific cases, right, and sofor a lot of the kids who got

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used in programs they weren't asconscious of it as I was, which
we'll have to get back to, butto but that's a lot of what they
were doing was using the humanpotential for their own gain as
well, before they had thetechnology really rolled out.
At this point, they don'treally need the human influence
in the same way, but building upto that, like through the 80s

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and into the 90s, basically upuntil around 2012, they
definitely needed magiciansians,if you will, to um, control the
world in the way that they do.
And the second part of yourquestion I almost forgot already
like.

What kind of teachings were they?

oh, the, the, what they were doing before, what
they were teaching me, okay.
So, um, obviously I needed tounderstand what they believe.
So they gave me their entireunderstanding of history and
what they believe and all ofthat.
I got to see it from a bunch ofdifferent points of view so
that I could have that niceoverview of it, and I'm always
been meant to believe that too.
So, as I'm growing up throughthis, it's like they'll tell me

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something is the truth right?
Like just pick somethingarbitrary, like they give me a
version of the bible and tell methat's the truth right, and so
for.
So for a long time I believethat it is, and I'm kind of
looking at the world throughthat perspective.
And then they're like actually,that wasn't the truth here.
Read this one now, right, andthere's a bunch of different
stages like that along myupbringing and that was kind of
how they were leading me throughall of this.

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But it was all meant so that Iwould end up with maybe not just
their, their ideologies, butalso their worldview, so that,
yes, I would look at myself asspecial and I would look at
people like they're stupid and Iwould believe that we were the
shepherds, to all of you sheepand everything that they believe
in that way, which was theproblem that they always had
with me, is that I would.
That was the part I could neveraccept, right.

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I just I did not buy that ever.
It was against my soul, let'sput it that way.
And so that was the part thatwould always actually make me
fight back.
But that is what they believe,and so what they wanted from me
was eventually to be some typeof entertainer or public speaker
who would share their ideologyin a very convincing way, and

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basically what I do is take allof the same things that they've
taught me and use it, despitethem, to tell people the truth,
even when they don't want tohear it, because a lot of the
people in the conspiracy world Ipopped bubbles, because a lot
of the stuff in the conspiracyworld is just made up and built
on top of made up and built ontop of made up.
It might point to somethingthat's real, but it's what I

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call a conspiracy snowball,where they started with some
like fresh snow and they startedthe snowball, but then, when
they couldn't find any more snow, they just kind of rolled it
around in some grass and dirtuntil they found more snow, and
so we end up with this reallydirty snowball at the end of the
day, but yeah.

When you were younger and reciting the
NeverEnding Story and answeringquestions that weren't
necessarily asked to you, didyou see any beings or entities,
or was there some kind of powerthat was maybe putting these
seeds in your brain?
Do you remember anything likethat?

It's kind of a dimension that's just layered
over on top of this one, andthat's been one of my abilities
since, yes, I was probably born.
My entire life I've maintainedit.
I can see both kind of tunedbetween the two whenever I feel
like it.
So entities, if you will,disembodied spirits, things like
that, have always kind of beenaround me.

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I don't think that that had anyinfluence, particularly at that
time, me.
I don't think that that had anyinfluence, particularly at that
time, other than that was alsoone of the things that I was
capable of, or reacting to that,um, you know, had them pull me
in in the first place, anddefinitely one of the abilities
that they nurtured the most.
Because, uh, it's uh, and theway I describe it to people you
probably hear, when people havelike a ghost experience or

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something, then it kind offollows them.
They end up having a bunch moreright, and that is literally
because we have these switchesin our brain that allow us to
discern between differentdimensions or spectrums of
information, both in sound andin light, and so those switches
get flipped in people's mindswhen they have their brains,
when they have that firstexperience, and that's why it
leads to more, and so I justhave a bunch of those flipped

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and they went in and helped flipmore to make me stronger in
that basically.
But that does again, as much asthey might want me to believe
that I was special while theywere doing this to me, I'm very
highly aware that all humanbeings have this potential.
It's just it's not nurtured,right.
It's that difference betweennature and nurture.
These abilities are within ournature, they're just not

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nurtured.

Can you give us an example of some of the
conspiracy snowballs that werebuilt on fallacies?

A lot of this stuff having to do with aliens,
because most of it is directingaround human involvement, right,
directing away from humaninvolvement, and kind of
scapegoating, if you willsomething we'll never find,
something we'll never catch, andso that's a big one.

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Within the conspiracy world,you end up getting into things
like super soldiers and secretspace program experiencers and
things like that, and most ofthem are once again kind of
repeating a lore, basically,that started with dis
information and just continuedbeing more experiencers coming
forward, regurgitating their ownflavor of that information, and
then that testimony kind ofadded on to the next one, right,

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and they, generation aftergeneration, to the point where
that snowball was never.
You know, the very core of thatsnowball is just dirt, and so
that's.
Those are examples of how itwould work.
And you know, the very core ofthat snowball is just dirt, and
so that's.
Those are examples of how itwould work.
And, um, you know that was bydesign.
That was something that, uh,back when they were still
indoctrinating me, it was beforethe internet had really taken
off and they were preparing forit, and that was one of the ways

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in which they were doing it.
Um, the conspiracy movement kindof started in libraries and rec
halls and people's basementsand stuff like that, so they
were infiltrating it back then,getting disinformation about all
of the topics we talk about inthere, just to make us
constantly chase our tail andcreate a bunch of rabbit holes
that don't need to be there,that eventually we get trapped

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in and stuck in or fall in andspend too long in.
And when the internet camealong, they knew that we would
just run with that ball fromthere.
Right as soon as we couldfreely share information
everyone can share their storyand and all of these things,
they knew exactly how that wouldall play out.
So, and then we're in themiddle of it now where, um, you
know, leading up to 2020, youknow, with the what I call the

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joy hit the world.
Since then, we've had a lot morepeople come into conspiracy
realms, right, start lookinginto conspiracy and they end up
tripping and falling into all ofthese very deep rabbit holes
that are conspiracy snowballs,something like the secret space
program, if you guys have neverdelved into that, my friend
Ryder actually calls that aconspiracy burrito, because it's

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literally every aspect of theconspiracy community all wrapped
up into one burrito, and thesepeople experience all of it,
right?
So yeah, it's a.
That was all by design to getus so that, when we got to this
point once again, we wouldn't beable to actually find the truth
, even though it is right infront of us, because it's just
the water so muddy.

The alien aspect.
A lot of people are kind ofpicking up on that being
bullcrap and uh, with you beingspiritually sensitive and saying
you know being able to discernbetween the spirit realm or
encounter entity and stuff, andthen no shortage of uh, you know
, occult conspiracies relatingto these cults, or like
believing that their bloodlineis related to some ancient

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entities or spirits or whatever.
So what kind of uh beliefs didthey teach as far as like far
out things to do with spirits,or like the entities they were
trying to contact or serve, orlike so-called satanic groups
and whatnot?

well, it's a a variety.
Each cult has kind of their ownflavor, but I'll give you the
kind of overview of what the tipof the pyramid believes.
Their history goes back toabout 100,000 to 120,000 years
ago, when whatever planet Earthwas at that time got forever
changed by the arrival of sometype of spaceship and that

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spaceship bared the name type ofspaceship, and that that
spaceship bared the nameAtlantis, and that that
spaceship eventually containedaliens, and that those aliens
came down and startedinteracting with us and formed a
civilization that theyeventually called Atlantis, and
that civilization existed hereright up until about 30,000
years ago in some shape or form.
And so a lot of what theybelieve starts with that.

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Right that you know, whateverhumans were back then kind of
mixed with these Atlanteans andwe ended up with a different
version of human.
And then, at about the 30,000year mark, they have another
introduction of more or less thesame thing, which is where
these reptilians start coming inwhich is that there was another
group of again off-worldspecies that we would call

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aliens who came down and tookthat version of human and
changed it genetically and gavebirth to what we are today.
And so what the Illuminatibelieve is that they're the
first version of that projectand that's why their bloodline
is special and the rest of usare all a subversion of that.
And obviously you guys haveprobably hearing that echoing

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Zacharias Sitchin and theAnunnaki and things of that
nature, right, but that groupwould once again be the authors
of those stories, so that onceagain we're constantly chasing
this name and this word,anunnaki, which is not even a
name, looking for a speciesbehind it that is not there.
Um and so from there, theybelieve the Illuminati believes

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that they were put in charge bythis alien race, more or less to
uh, control civilization, tocreate culture, basically, and
be our shepherds.
As I've said before I use thatword because it's their word and
it's a good indicator of theway that they view us as sheep
and they're the shepherds, right, or their parents were children
is a lot closer to the wordsthat they would use.

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And that's more or less how youtreat us.
They treat us, if you thinkabout it, the way that they do
lie to the public and whatnot,right, and you know it's like
everything's a s?
Claus story or a Satan Clausstory, and so there's that
aspect of it right at its core,and then Satanism becomes kind
of that same belief structureand all of the same ideology,

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just brought down to taking itaway from aliens and bringing it
just into the spirit realm,right where we now are dealing
with angels and demons.
And angels and demons, as far aswe've ever dealt with them, are
a part of the planet.
This is what we callinterdimensional beings,
disembodied souls, things likethat.

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You might call them ghosts,sometimes you might call them
poltergeists, sometimes youmight call them demons.
We have a variety of differentnames because there's a variety
of different types, but most oftheir knowledge, if you will,
isn't coming from aliens.
It's coming from thoseinterdimensional beings that
they're interacting with, usingpeople like me who can interact

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with them, or through varioustypes of rituals that can
temporarily what you might callthin the veil between our world
and theirs or our dimension andtheirs, so that they can have a
little bit more of interaction.
So I said a lot right there, butwhat's relevant to us really
kind of does fit within the last400 years and has nothing to do
with aliens truly, other thanthe humans involved are aware of

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an alien history on our planet,and so they're aware of certain
sites, certain areas of theplanet where things have been
buried that do belong to thatold world, and so, especially
over the last 200 years, they'vebeen doing everything they can
to find those places and digthem up and recover whatever
they can from them.
Um, your country's war with themiddle east was all about that.
To be honest, it's just likegetting these different pieces

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of technology, which brings usback to the reverse engineering
and the alien component of thereverse engineering.
It's not that you know we havethese uh, I hear it in the
mainstream that we get thesedonations from aliens or
whatever but it's more that theyknow that there's things
underground that they were ableto dig up that allowed them to

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reverse engineer and create newtechnologies, and that's the
majority of the story.
Obviously, the universe isfilled with filled with life,
and there are exceptions to thatbasis or that base, but, um,
that's the majority of what'sgoing on is they have a

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understanding of science andtechnology that is a completely
different pathway to what theyallow us in the mainstream world
to know about I'm sure, being acanadian, you know what oak
island is.

Could that be one of the places where
something may be buried?
Could be, I have to, yeahthat's a rule I have to.

I have to be careful.
I could to.
Yeah, that's a rule I have to.
I have to be careful.
I could use the one becauseit's a bag I hear you.

The other thing I was going to say is you, you
kind of explained right therewhat the um, the people at the
very tippy top of the pyramidbelieve.
What are your findings kind oflead you to believe the same
things.

Uh well, I mean in terms of the logistics of it.
Yes, I don't agree with any oftheir ideologies.
Like I, I don't believe thathumans are as irresponsible as
they believe humans to be.
I do believe that we've justnever had the opportunity to
find out, and I don't agree withthis control structure that's
been there for that long, thathas never allowed us the

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opportunity to find out withoutgetting scolded for it or
ostracized or even killed for it.
However, like theirunderstanding of history is
correct, um, you know it, thisis becoming easier to talk about
these days because of peoplelike graham hancock becoming
kind of popular, because he'spointing back to that, what they
call the younger dryas impacttheory, right like that, that

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idea that about 13,000 years agosomething happened and that
reset civilization and that istrue, and the Illuminati are the
people who basically broughtthe knowledge forward after all
of that.

Something that's dear to my conspiracy
heart and just everything.
Uh well, first, if I had totake a guess, shane, you're
probably irish, are you not?
You look like a druid.

You got the big beard and it's in my, to my
family.

Yeah, for sure and what I was gonna say is
I feel like druids play a hugepart in this that they were like
one of the remnants of, youknow, somebody who preserved
what we would call magic, orhuman potential, as you were
saying, and other abilities andlike innate knowledge of, like,
the realm that we live in andstuff, and that's why they were
so targeted and they had to go.

Like in history, they were targeted big time by
the roman empire, by the englishempire, by the churches, like
everyone wanted to get rid ofthe druids yeah, and if you
follow the history I just laidout, when I said it's only
really been the last 400 years,it's really been only been the
last 400 years.
For that too, all of that magicand the druids and various
groups like that were alltolerated up till about 400

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years ago, when they startedchanging things the way that
they have, and especially in thelast 200 years.
But, yeah, we call paganreligions anything that's not
christianity.
Basically at that point right.
And anything.
We call pagan religionsanything that's not Christianity
, basically at that point right.
And anything that does.
You know, it's not a onereligion.
There was a variety of them,the Druids being one of them.
But the thing that they all hadin common does come from that
older version of humans, right,and pre-Atlantean even time

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where we are kind of likeTolkien's elves in Lord of the
Rings, where, like, ourconnection to the planet is so
strong and in harmony that wedon't need the modern
technologies as we know them nowand there's just different
pathways to all of it.
You guys in the conspiracyworld I'm sure you've had
tartaria come up as an example,right.

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All of that, like all of that,is pointing to the fact that,
especially when the unitedstates was formed but there's
been different pockets of thisall over the planet for years is
a lot of those buildingspointed to different pathways to
technology that they didn'twant us to know about.
North America was happening, orresettling of North America was

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happening, and this new worldwas being created so that you
know they could keep us on allof the energy sources and the
types of technology what I callpathways to technology that we
currently use because of.
Because of this, because ofmoney and control.

Yeah, Wow, and as far as the timeline, do
you have any theories of yourown then?
Like how old was some of thesecivilizations when there was
these resets?
Like a lot of the tartariastuff seems to elude that it was
within kind of the timeline yousaid the past 200 years that
things really got reset andwiped out.

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So is there a certainchronology that you were taught
in that or that you've come to?
You know?

subscribe to yourself yeah, so, um, it was
about 400 years ago where, let'ssay, the people who control the
illuminati were kind of givingthe illuminati a choice to just
share with all of us everything,or to try and keep their
structure.
And their choice was to keeptheir structure.
And then about 200 years wentby of basically people getting

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soft because they didn't havethat backing that they were so
used to and they weren't keepingup all their disciplines and
practices and magic andeverything else.
So, coming up to about 200years ago, they recognized oh,
we're in trouble, we need tofigure out a different pathway
to do this, and that's wheretechnology started coming in,
and so, in order to facilitatethat in a coming future, they
needed to basically erase thehistory of what was there so

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that we didn't ever have that tofall back or see, look back on,
and then from there, yeah,that's when we start to get into
the timeline that we all knowwhere they, um, you know, have
basically since the 1800s,giving us a completely false
history of what North Americawas and you know, even other
parts of the world, both of theworld wars.
They destroyed a lot of veryvital things, right, and we all

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know that now in history, but wedon't, nobody really noticed at
the time that that was also bydesign and both ended up setting
up the world as we know it now.
Yeah, so before that I guessthere's a bunch of different
things we could go into.
But again, their history andthe world as it is now starts

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about 13,000 years ago at theend of that major destruction.
Where we were at at that pointis Graham Hancock is not very
far off.
So we had a bunch of differentpockets of humans that survived
what had gone on, and you knowthey were left without their
technology and without theirsciences and without everything
that they had their civilizationas they had it.
So they were all back in arebuilding phase for a long

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period of time, which kind ofdidn't bring them all the way
back to hundred gatherers, likeGraham might say, but pretty
close, right, like they had toget back in touch with all of
the old ways of doing things.
All the while that was going on, that group that created the
Illuminati had their own patchon earth where they were
planning to share what they knewwith all these different

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pockets.
Right, and so when you followGraham Hancock's work and a lot
of even what Zachariah Sitchinposits with the Anunnaki stories
, that idea that from somewhereelse came this group of men, the
group of humans who then camealong and started sharing
technology again and sharingsciences again and sharing

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spirituality again and knowledgeof the stars and all those
things again.
And so that is true, and thatgroup is where the Illuminati
starts.
And that's just basically howthey kept everything under
control for forever.
And as adjustments were needed,they came like Christianity is
an adjustment Right.
So when they started to losecontrol, they needed to maintain

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it, they needed to create a newpathway for control, and so
that religion was formed as anexample, not the only example,
but an example.

What can you tell us about Antarctica, if
anything?

Well, right now it's covered in ice, but when
it's not covered in ice it kindof looks like the rest of the
world and this planet goesthrough cycles where those ice
caps, if you will come and go,right now they're there but, um,
you know, not too far into ourfuture they're, they're, uh,
that ice is going to go away andwe're going to start to see
what was there and it's reallyjust again proof of that older

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history of this planet.
Right, that's a lot of what theconspiracy is is making us
believe that we're only, youknow, however old they like to
tell us, say that we are, theylike, with the, the dating of
the pyramids being less than 5000 years old as an example,
where now we're figuring outthey're a lot older than that.
That type of conspiracy isexactly what it's been about.
They don don't want us to knowthat.

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You know, humans have been onthis planet in the kind of form,
similar form to what we are now, for 100,000 years, when
they've been telling us that10,000 years ago we were, you
know, cavemen basically.
And yeah, that's a lot of it.

Something that we ask a lot of guests is
just general paranormal or youknow what's your weird
experience, type of questions,but I think it goes a lot deeper
and further if we're going toask you the same.

I mean I could pick one.
I have, like you know, the kindthat I would call normal right,
I worked security for a longtime for MLSC, which is the that
owns the leafs and the raptors.
I looked after a few of theirbuildings.
One of the buildings that I waslooking after is, um, it's on
the exhibition grounds in canada.
It's where we had our worldfair when you guys had yours in

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chicago and san francisco.
Uh, we had one here and it's apiece of land owned by the queen
still kind of operated, eventhough it's in toronto,
independently of of Toronto, butit's very haunted grounds.
We used it during World War IIto basically bring a bunch of
people over here and hang them,but the barracks were also there
and various things.
There's a lot of, let's say,ghost activity on the grounds

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that you know.
Everybody who worked for mepretty much would have an
experience, even if they didn'tbelieve it.
So I I mean I could run througha bunch of those but as an
example that are pretty normal.
So an example of we would havewhen the Marlies weren't playing
there, which is like the AHLteam for Toronto when the
Marlies weren't playing there,they would rent the ice out to

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like local hockey leagues withinToronto, like men's hockey
leagues, pickup leagues, and sowe were having a night of those
games and everyone had gone home, and one of the things I always
did at night was go around andcheck the bathrooms.
And so I was doing that, andwith a woman's bathroom I'd
always push the door open andsay, security, is anyone in
there?
Before I would enter, becauseyou know manners.
And so I did that one nightwhere I was expecting the

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building to be empty and someonewas like, oh yeah, I'm in here.
It was a woman's voice, like,oh, sorry, I'll wait right.
And so I kind of waited, wentdown a small flight of steps,
waited about 15, 20 feet fromthe door where I could see the
door, waiting for her to comeout.
She didn't come out because Ineeded to escort her out
whenever she came out.
She wasn't supposed to be there.
Whoever she was, she never cameout.

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So I went back and I pushed thedoor open again.
I'm like security, is anyone inhere?
No answer.
So at this point I go security,I'm coming in.
No answer.
So I go in, go through, checkall the stalls nobody's in there
.
And just at that moment I thinkto myself oh, it must have been
a ghost, and I hear the samevoice start laughing.

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As an example, yeah, we had aresident ghost that people would
either see or hear on a regularbasis, even without hearing
about it ahead of time.
This one area we call it thewest annex.
People would hear like keysjingling, or they would see an
old man with thick glasses, likecoke bottle glasses and
suspenders look like he wasdressed for 20 years ago walking

(36:16):
around with this big uh ring ofkeys on his belt, and they
would have it end up having aconversation with him, asking
for directions, and then talkabout this earl guy who doesn't
exist.
He's not.
He's not a real employee, he'snot a real person, but uh, that
was another example.
So, yeah, I could go on and on,but uh, I'll stop there so
those are the normal ones, notnormal ones.

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All right.
Well, one thing I explain topeople is that to keep people in
the Illuminati, they would haveto use what I call dangling
carrots, so they would have toincentivize you.
Unless you were an evilsociopsychopath who liked it,
they would have to incentivizeyou in a lot of cases.
So with me, one of my, myincentives, one of the dangling
carrots would be things likecryptids.

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Um, I was always curious, likewhen I would hear these stories,
like how many of these thingsactually do exist, and so, um,
what I ended up finding out isthat a lot of these things if
not just about everyone thatwe've ever come up with has
existed at at some point in time, and they have either several
of them or a copy of themcaptured somewhere, and so a lot

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of cryptids that people wouldname.
I've actually been able to goto a facility and see, and that
sounds just insane andfar-fetched and that's why I
call it not a normal one, right?
But yeah, those things, that'skind of the weirdest for me.

Are you familiar with a gentleman named Stuart
Swerdlow?

I am.

Your story is remarkably.
I used to have a podcast in2016, and he was a guest, tried
to get him on this one, but hebasically wanted to see us get a
little bit bigger.
I don't know, so I'm going toreach out to him eventually
again soon.
However, your story isremarkably similar to his

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Similar.

Yeah, you might not want to mention me if you're
going to ask if we're goingagain.
I don't think he likes me verymuch, but, um, oh yeah, he's uh.
So one of the things that I didwhen I worked for what people
call the illuminati was, uh, youknow, you could call it
disinformation, as we wouldcontact various researchers and

(38:31):
we would tell them things.
Um, you know the, the idea ofall you know.
You could Google right now the13 bloodlines of the Illuminati
and you would find them.
But we gave them to that authoras an example.
And there's a lot of otherauthors in the conspiracy land
who got their information frominsiders self-proclaimed, and
those insiders were people likeme, under a different name.

That makes sense why your stories would be
similar.
Then because he uh, yeah, hemight have uh been fabricating
not, not even I'm not, that'snot what I'm even implying.

It's similar because that's kind of how it
works, right.
It is a lot of the time like inhis case it was it's a family
thing, right?
So if your family was involvedand you exhibit any of those
extra sensory perceptions,they've got you you're, you're
already there, right.
So that's the part that youknow a lot of the similarities
come from and again, it's verycompartmentalized, so, kind of

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from the level that I'm talkingfrom, from where a lot of other
people speak from, it is acouple steps down the pyramid,
so to speak, as well gotta gottabacktrack there to the cryptids
.

I'm surprised you didn't jump right
on it, mike.
Uh, so basically it was likeall right, shane you, you tell
us about this spirit realm andwe'll show you the big foot.
And then you got to go see afacility.
So which ones did you see thatconfirm?
Like, can you tell us whichones are bullshit, which ones
were real?

uh, yeah, you'd have to start naming them to me
for me to be able to say whichones are bullshit.
Because just what's thatmothman?
Um, almost uh, there's creature.
There's a creature that is likethat, or there have been
creatures that are like that.
Um, they do have one incaptivity.
They think one's still in thewild.
But if you were to crossMothman with Jeepers Creepers,

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you'd be a lot closer to reality.
The creature from JeepersCreepers, yeah.

Dogman.

Yeah, this is.
I think that that was somethingthat the military created.
That probably got away on thembecause they've done a lot of
chimera experimentation.
Even Alex Jones has talkedabout that.
I think that that's what thedogmen are.
And then obviously that's akind of almost like a modern
version of a werewolf right,which comes from something very

(40:47):
similar, but the instead ofusing technology to do that.
Actually no, I guess it's stilltechnology, but like it's a mix
of genetics basically, whereasa lot of when we think of a
werewolf, we think of a man thatshapeshifts into a werewolf
right, but these were justwerewolves that were bigger, had
a tendency to get up on twofeet kind of, had a little bit
more of a muscular shape totheir upper body than their

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lower body and used to run wild.

Loch Ness Monster and similar sea
creatures.

Yeah, there's been many of them.
Actually, there's probablystill a bunch out there, but
they've captured most of theones that they could.
Anyways, you remember, youmight not know, but in the 80s
they sent Jacques Cousteau afterthem after the Loch Ness
Monster, and Jacques Cousteausaw something and then couldn't
find it again and everythingwent cold after that.
Everyone just believed it wasbullshit, but they were like, oh

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, he found it, let's go get it.
And uh, that's what happened inthat situation.
So, but yeah, there, um, canadawas full of them.
We had like agapogo, manapogo,igapogo, um, a whole variety of
them.
And then, um, I'm forgettingthe name of the part of ocean
off the coast of BC where theystill think that there's water

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serpents.
They're giant, um, you know,water snakes, basically, or
ocean snakes, sea snakes, seaserpents that's the word I'm
looking for what about mantis,though large mantis creatures?
like the alien mantis mantisyeah, they like.

Uh, supposedly there's a lot of people that
have actually seen what looklike giant praying mantises.
Yeah, they look similar in thehead to greys.
Yeah.

Yeah, it's usually an abduction experience that
people are seeing those.
So the abduction experience itmight be a whole other
conversation, because it's apretty messy thing, because we
have basically what now getsreferred to, I think, in the
public as my labs, which ismilitary abductions and those
were mostly staged as UFOabductions and basically they

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would bring, you know, kidnap.
You do a bunch of testing,usually with drugs, things like
DMT before everybody was doingDMT recreationally, things like
DMT before everybody was doingDMT recreationally, things like
DMT and abuse, and our memory ofthat, as our memories do, ended
up kind of programming thatinto these various aliens and

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that's where most of it comesfrom.
So, in terms of there actuallybeing like mantis beings running
around on planet Earth, that'snot APEC.
What about Bigfoot?
So that would be so if you wereto take that Anunnaki story of
them splitting the local, thenatural hominid of planet Earth

(43:33):
with other alien genetics tocreate us.
That was the natural home, so wetend to call them neanderthal
um, so basically they're just anolder version of us that lived
and survived, um, you know,alongside us, definitely until
that 13 000 years ago and beyondthat, probably still up to the

(43:53):
current day, and um, you know, alot of the arguments are like
why don't we find them?
Why don't we find the dead?
Why don't we find their poop?
Why don't we find all thesedifferent things?
Well, because they're not juststupid animals and they've
evolved with this planet andthey know where we are long
before we know where they are.
And they've also, you know,figured out how to stay away
from us, such as coming out atnight where we don't see too

(44:15):
well, and they do.
And when it comes to likepsychic abilities, which I know
a lot of, uh, you know, thepeople who chase bigfoot always
talk about them likedisappearing and stuff like that
.
They can't disappear, but theysure can convince you that they
did so.
Yeah, basically it's just aspecies of I don't want to call

(44:35):
them human, but humanoid that isnatural to this planet and
exists in very small numbersstill.
But I've heard you know, we havea hard time getting news out of
places like China and Russia,right, so there's like stories
throughout Russia of like smallvillages of them where they wear
clothes and have like a legalsystem and things like that,
even places in China where youlearn about Sasquatch as if it's

(44:57):
a bear that you have to avoidin the woods Right.

So yeah, it's crazy because so much of what
you're saying it jives with somany other things that I've
heard, like, for instance, davidPolitis.
He does the missing 411 and hehas done dna samples on bigfoot
and he has been trying to telleverybody for the last decade or

(45:20):
so that it is.
It's not an ape, it's anoffshoot of the human species,
as you said.
Yeah, man, just the more youtalk, the more I'm, the more
everything that I've learnedfrom different people, just kind
of it all, is making a littlebit more sense.
It's.

It's kind of spooky, yeah, and david's work
is another one where I it's kindof spooky, yeah, and David's
work is another one where that'skind of an example of where we
create a conspiracy snowball,sometimes by trying to make it
like all those people aremissing just because of Bigfoot
or just because of aliens orjust because of any one thing,
where it's actually a largecombination of things.
These programs that I wastalking about as well, I was

(45:55):
participating in them, but forthe I'd say, the majority,
definitely more than half of thehumans used in these programs,
they were kind of abducted fromtheir beds and brought in and
drugged and kept in a facilityfor a week and then sent home on
drugs again and woke up notreally knowing what was going on
.
And then they end up recoveringtheir memories through dreams
or little fragments that comeback.

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And then they end up recoveringtheir memories through dreams
or little fragments that comeback, and then they hear stories
about aliens and they hearother things and they kind of
filling in all those missingspaces with things that they
hear from other people as well,which is a lot of.
Where the similarities betweena lot of the stories does come
from is like other peoplehearing other people's stories
and filling in those gaps, butthat doesn't rule out the fact

(46:35):
that there's a phenomenon thereto begin with, and, um,
something that you know, uh, formyself, speaking in the
alternative community, I'vealways kind of pointed out that
that is the case, that for a lotof the people who are
participating, you know they'rethey're deliberately misled as
to what was going on, they'redeliberately made to believe it
was aliens or made to believethey were taken in a craft and

(46:56):
things like that, because, onceagain, that that you know keeps
the humans out of the pictureand we'll never get the people
actually involved in trouble.
But, you know, from thatperspective, I can understand
why they remember things the waythat they do, because one of
the things that the programs hasis, you know, incredibly
advanced technology beyond whatwe, even still today, would

(47:18):
believe that they have.
It's starting to very quicklycome out into the public now and
a lot of it has to do withvirtual reality type of
technology.
So where they're actually at,with the ability to put you in a
simulation, is way beyond whatthey would admit right now.
However, I would say that allthe components to make the

(47:39):
simulations are in themainstream right now they're
just isolated.
So if you take Neuralink overhere and you take a lot of this
other technology that they'retalking about, about being able
to read songs from a person'sbrain or put a song into a
person's brain, this othertechnology where they're hearing
orca language, and this otherone where they're experimenting
if you just put it all together,we have the matrix already.

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We have the ability to give ussuch a potent simulation that we
do believe it's real.
So a lot of these people who areclaiming that they were in
these different super soldierprograms, secret space programs,
abductions, things like that,really they've just been run
through these very high levelvirtual reality simulations,

(48:20):
while also on drugs, which iswhat doesn't allow them to be
able to distinguish that fromreal life, and they recover this
all in memory, mostly triggeredby hearing people speak online,
and then it ends up all kind offix fitting into the same box.
For that reason but that'swhere it comes from is that
these programs they used a lotof unwilling, witting people,

(48:41):
and the point that I started onis that not all of those people
came back Right, so meaning thatthey did kill people, not just
intentionally, but also veryaccidentally, while running all
these experiments on people aswell, accidentally, while
running all these experiments onpeople as well.

There's been a lot of mass UFO sightings, like
the aerial school in Africa,roswell, just the Varginha the
Varginha incident in Brazil.

Are these largely orchestrated by the government?
As a PSYOP, unfortunately, yes,I mean.
The one question I always getpeople to ask about the one in
Brazil, is who recovered it?
Right, it was the United Statesmilitary.
If you were Brazil, would youlet the United States military
come in?
And you know, no, you'd bekeeping that for yourself.
You'd be like we found this,this is ours, unless you knew it
was the Americans already andyou had to let them come get it

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back Right.
A lot of the other cases Ithink are very similar.
I did a podcast recently wheresomeone told me a story I didn't
know actually, about um I thinkthey call it the alabama metal
man and when he showed me thepictures of the alabama metal
man, like that is nasa's mercuryspace suit just about 25 years
before we saw it through nasaright and um.

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So to me that just that justsounds like one of their
programs that got away from them.
Somebody saw it through NASA,right, and so to me that just
sounds like one of theirprograms that got away from them
.
Somebody saw it and reported onit, and they did their best to
cover it up by making it seemlike it was aliens from outer
space, as opposed to just theirhighly hidden technology.
It's the same thing, because inthe late 80s and early 90s,
everyone was seeing these gianttriangle crafts, crafts, and

(50:17):
then we got the stealth bomberright.
So, um, yeah, it's the samething, and it's going on right
now as well with, uh, the uapstuff that they're coming out in
the media.
This is just what you wouldcall a slow disclosure of
technologies.

We're not supposed to know that they have
what do you think will be thenext big PSYOP?
We had the big joy, as youcalled it, the plandemic, the
current blue beam stuff thatthey're pushing out, that you
just mentioned too.
What do you anticipate is thenext attack for the sheeple?

I hate to say these things because it can kind
of make them happen, but theway that they operate, they
always have several balls in theair, as I put it, and whichever
one makes the most sense atthat moment they use, and so it
could be a variety of things.
Technologies like Bluebeamaren't there, but that'd be
really hard for them to pull off, to be honest, and I think

(51:12):
enough of us talk about it thatwe wouldn't be convinced, right,
and I think doing somethingexactly like the joy would be
the same.
However, what I'm worried aboutthem doing is because they're
trying to push this treatythrough with WHO to basically
have those pandemic emergencypowers whenever they feel like
it right.

(51:32):
Simultaneously, the bidenadministration keeps making this
huge deal out of how mentalhealth is health and that we're
having a mental health epidemicand that people who you know
support maga or are on that sideof things are mentally ill,
right and a problem.
So I'm worried that the nextversion of that we're going to
see is going to be somethinglike that and that could be

(51:54):
caused in a variety of differentways.
Some kind of points that couldplay into this is something
similar to this announcementthat the vatican's supposed to
do about a rise in supernaturalevents and supernatural
perceptions.
They've been running this thingin the media about people
seeing demon face as an exampleand, um, along with all of the
you know increase in uapsightings, all of the different

(52:16):
deep fake videos and everythinggoing on.
I just think that the nextscandemic, as you put it, will
have something to do with youknow nothing, even physical, and
just somewhere like.
Your opinions are wrong,basically, and therefore you're
mentally ill mentally ill.

Oh yeah, I could see it with some hate
speech bills.
And then they just say whateveris hate speech is you know
you're criminal for thinking itor saying it or posting it,
whatever it may be.
And uh you?
So you said the vatican isgoing to or they, they made an
announcement, or trying to getpeople prepared for increased
supernatural activity.
When was that?

uh, just recently.
I don't think it's evenhappened yet.
They just announced it recently.
So the last time they didsomething like this was back in
2008, where they started talkingabout aliens and potential for
aliens and how they wouldbaptize aliens.
Now they're doing the samething.
So there's a bunch of factors inhere.
Like you know, thedecriminalization of a lot of
psychedelics and getting peoplelike microdosing, mushrooms and

(53:13):
stuff like that.
A lot, a lot of people arealtering their perceptions on a
regular basis.
We also have this broadbandtechnology that flows through
the air on frequencies that wecan't see, taste or touch and
can affect our perceptions.
That has a number and a letterand our cell phones are all
connected to it.
We're speaking over it rightnow, and that type of technology

(53:34):
actually does have the abilityto read and write what's going
on in here.
So, um, you know their abilityto even do something where, like
mass hallucinations, they havethe technology in place now.
So, um, prior to q anon, uh,going all the way back to about
2010, one of the first things Itried to warn conspiracy

(53:57):
researchers about was QAnon thatthis was coming, that they were
gonna do this and it was gonnacapture a lot of conspiracy
theorists and this was going tobe a problem because it was
gonna become an excuse tocriminalize conspiracy theorists
and call them domesticterrorists.
And then QAnon happened.
And here we are.
So I have a feeling, a feelingthat they're setting up for the
next evolution of that, and Idon't think it'll be quite as

(54:20):
simple as QAnon, although I'msure QAnon will be back and
involved but something like thatand it could be just.
You know, I made the joke whenthe United States elected George
W Bush the second time thatthis proves that 56% of
Americans are crazy, and thatwas a joke at the time.
But you know you could makethat not a joke in a hurry if

(54:44):
that election goes the wrong way.

I can totally see that playing out too
.
Hopefully not spoken intoexistence, but who knows?
Everybody within our communityknows that this year was
probably going to be kind ofcrazy, and it hasn't really
disappointed.

Yeah, and they also just dropped.
You know they do predictiveprogramming.
Well, you guys have probablybumped into that, so they put
things in movies that you know.
We say it predicts the future,but it really doesn't.
It conditions us to play out acertain future, so they'll show
us a scenario.
They'll show us a scenario.
They'll show us the actorsresponding in a certain way, and
then we are programmed torespond in that way too.

(55:18):
So there was a pretty popularNetflix series that just went by
Three-Body Problem, which isbased on a great book, but the
series is also great.
If you guys haven't seen it,you probably should and that
came up in that that, like theywere it's supposed to be like a
couple of years from now orwhatever.
And they were it's supposed tobe like a couple years from now
or whatever.
And they were saying thatbasically, they were having this
massive lockdown because of amental health crisis oh, wow.

And then the whole train derailment thing
was in a bunch of movies andyeah, that happened and it seems
like that keeps happening the,the boat hitting, uh, the bridge
there in baltimore, right afteruh leave the world behind with
that boat scene.

Things like that.
I'm sure you guys have seen itwith the Simpsons.
It looks like some of thatartwork is kind of inspired by
that as well.
Right, they've predicted allsorts of things that have
happened, and that's how itworks.
It's not so much that they'reletting us know ahead of time
that that's going to happen, butthat's how culture, creation
works, that's how magic works.
It's a combination ofimagination, will and conviction

(56:14):
works.
It's a combination ofimagination, will and conviction
.
They feed our imagination.
Our will is all over the place,because we're all you know, we
have way too many emotions andthen through our actions, the
world gets created and uh yeah,and so a big part of what we're
kind of enduring through them isnow is that you know they've
kind of trained people that yourperception is reality and your

(56:35):
feelings are all that matter andyou should just act on them,
and so everyone's kind ofthrowing thought out the window
and throwing logic and reasonout the window, and that's a
problem, because they teach theother.
They teach something that'sactually called the trivium
method, which used to be part ofour education system and that
orders things in thinking,feeling and acting in that way.
They call it grammar logicrhetoric In computer sciences.

(56:56):
It's still there inputprocessing, output, right, and
that's the way that we'resupposed to be doing things.
But they've got everyone up intheir feelings now and
everyone's operating from likethe heart chakra, if you will.
And because we're doing that,we're not thinking things
through properly, we're justgoing towards what our feelings
are telling us.
And you know the unfortunatepart of being human that is

(57:18):
difficult is our feelings arenot true just because they're
there.
Right, we have emotionalreactions to things that aren't
even there and we have feelingsabout.
It's a power that no one's everreally taught us how to use and
at this point in time, a lot ofthe problems we see in the
world are a reflection of themremoving that order from us,

(57:42):
where now they've got us all upin our feelings and acting from
them and we're slowly destroyingthe world.

So yeah, I've never heard it put that way
.

I like that.
What three books would yourecommend for somebody that was
a novice in the area but reallywanted to take, you know, some
deep dives?

I don't know, man.
Um, whenever anyone asks meabout books, I tell people to
read anne rice's vampirechronicles because, um, you know
, there's not only the historyof the organization.
We've been talking about a lotof the things about how culture,
creation and history shapingworks are in there, and it's a
deep dive into how magicactually works as well.
You know, a lot of the time Iwould again point to fiction.

(58:22):
I would point to something likeeven the Celestine prophecy
will open your eyes to a lot ofthings.
Lord of the Rings, you know avery popular one as an example
In terms of like the nonfictionbooks out there that a lot of
these authors are writing.
I always just say readeverything.
I wouldn't point anything toanyone If I were to say who the

(58:45):
best conspiracy researcher was,based on what I know and what
I've heard them say I haven'tlistened to them too much over
the last few years, but MichaelTesarion is a great resource,
excellent researcher.
He's very close on a lot ofdifferent things and, um, yeah,
I think that's the best I can dowith that question.

To kind of backtrack a little.
You mentioned vampires and Iknow that that could kind of
fall into a cryptid.
And then there's theadrenochrome, if we can even say
that, or you know, the wholeblood magic ritual aspect that
goes into it.
And you know, trying to stayyoung, and is there anything to
vampires and vampirism?

Yes, it's not, you know, know, exactly like the
fiction, but, uh, I was kind ofhoping not to go this this deep
into things, but I did write itinto my blog so I guess we'll
talk about it.
So, at the top of theilluminati are it started with
13 individuals, one for each ofthe bloodline.
It's it expanded over time, butthat's where it started and
each one of those has what wemight call a life extension

(59:49):
technique that allows them tonot be immortal in like, you
know, the fictional, but theydon't die, they don't grow old,
they don't die and beyond whatthey were, and one of those
versions, one of those lifeextension techniques, is very
similar to what we call vampires, not the dracula sense, but
again more close to the androidsense.

(01:00:10):
Um, I kind of keep bringingthat up because a lot of these,
like bigger authors and stuff,they end up coming from.
You know, that's what I couldbe doing right now if I had a
state in.
As an example, I could besomeone whose name you know, in
the same vein as like a jkrawlings or a terrence howard or
, uh, you know, like a david ike, maybe right, like um, someone,

(01:00:31):
someone like that is kind ofwhat they were grooming me for,
because that's how they do it.
A magician has to show youtheir hand.
Basically, part of what theythink absolves their karma for
all this nonsense is that theytell us what they're going to do
before they do it.
They tell us how they do whatthey're doing and whether or not
we see it is up to us.
It's a little bit tongue incheek because they usually show

(01:00:54):
us in fiction, or I should saythey show us in fiction, but
that's why I would say somethinglike reading the Vampire
Chronicles by Anne Rice wouldprobably be more educational
than a lot of nonfiction booksthat are out there educational
than a lot of nonfiction booksthat are out there.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:01:06):
You mentioned Terrence Howard and we're
recording this.
Maybe three or four days afterhe was on the Rogan podcast, I
brought it up and I texted Tomlast night.
I was 15 minutes into it andI'm like, dude, you got to
listen to this.
I listened to the whole thingall three hours.
So you brought him up, but I'mnot sure in what sense.

(01:01:28):
Is he a part of theseorganizations or is he a
whistleblower like yourself?

Shane Sedore (01:01:46):
we're going through right now on a global
sense, that all this controlfrom the Illuminati and these
powers that be aside, we'regoing through an evolution as a
species and those of us who arekind of like in line with that
are going one way and the restof us are kind of going into
this new version of human.
That's all technology,transhumanisms.
We could talk about that interms of the lollipop right,
like that kind of a division,that that is why we're seeing

(01:02:06):
these things and it's because ofthis evolution.
So we're having a rise inconsciousness and, uh, a lot of
different people are figuring alot of truth out just simply
because of that.
So someone like terence I don'teven know would be controlled
in any sort of way.
He could have just come acrossthat through this mechanism of
this evolution, this rise of the, the consciousness I keep

(01:02:27):
trying to call it by its realname but I don't want to piss
off any christians but thisrising consciousness that we're
going through, um, you know it,it allows us to see through the
veil a little bit more.
It allows us to understand andknow the truth.
It's got us more in touch withour own soul outside of here and
the planet itself and thenature of the whole universe,
and so I think that that's whysomething like that is coming

(01:02:50):
out, and why I kind of broughthim up in that context is just
because of you know how thatinformation is getting
controlled.
But what he's pointing to isthat older version of technology
or that older pathway totechnology that I was talking
about Same thing with Tesla,right, and in some way they will
be bringing that back, and sosomeone like Terrence is kind of

(01:03:13):
like this just little nugget toslowly prepare us towards new
pathways to technology.
Usually, when they're making abig deal of something, it's
because they have a newtechnology coming to fix it.
So when you see, like a rise incancer, it's because there's a
new technology coming along tofix it.
When you um, I was thinking ofanother one just before that but

(01:03:35):
, yeah, these different things,because they've the energy
crisis, it's because they have anew pathway for energy that
they're getting ready to bringout in the public.
And, yeah, problem reactionsolution, like tom said earlier,
is it zero?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:03:49):
point energy that they're going to be
unrolling here.

Yeah, it's going to be bio bioelectric energy.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:03:55):
We're going to power things and that's
probably got something to dowith climate change that they've
been pushing into huh yeah,what was the phrase?

we are the carbon they want to reduce.
Um, but yeah, like, uh, thingslikeink.
Darpa has put out these variouspills that work based on your
own bioelectric signal, andthat's what the battery gets
charged by this technology thatthey're building these the
common name 15-minute cities outof, with this new graphene

(01:04:26):
infused concrete that also notonly it conducts electricity,
basically, so instead of havingto run wires, they can just run
it straight through the concrete.
The other part of it is is thatour kinetic energy, of living
within it, because we all havean energy field that, like
radiates energy, is actuallyfeeding all of that, almost like
we're feeding a battery thatwill then get sold back to us,

(01:04:48):
which is pretty hilarious.
But, um, but yeah, that that'sthe next direction that they're
going, where we will be thepower for things.
I'm pretty sure some cellphones are already um working
like that, where, if you holdthem, you can charge them.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:05:02):
Um, I'm not sure for whatever reason, when you
mentioned energy fields, Ithought of this and it kind of
has nothing to do with energyfields, but for whatever reason
it sparked this in my head.
When I was a young man in themiddle late nineties, I was
dating this girl and she had afamily friend.
She was Japanese.
She had a family friend namedAkira who was a prisoner in the

(01:05:26):
American concentration campsduring the war and and this man
had the craziest, like crystaleyes, that like he didn't look
normal but and he was supposed.
I didn't believe it at the time,but he was supposedly someone
who could see auras in peopleand see their different colors
and their energy fields and, um,he made these several
predictions.
But you know, I was 17 yearsold and I'm like, yeah, okay,

(01:05:48):
you know I didn't really believeit too much then, but the older
I've gotten, the more Irealized he was probably right
on.
And the question I got for youI took a long way getting there
is can you see energy fields oris that a real thing, or?

not energy fields, but auras.
Well, um, we all have an energyfield.
It's about 3.5 meters indiameter, about six feet across.
Um, stay six feet apart.
Uh, when our energy fieldsoverlap with each other, there's
an energy exchange.
All energy is also information.
So even just being in proximityto each other, we're kind of

(01:06:21):
telepathically communicating onsome level.
Hence, stay six feet apart whenwe're trying to lie to you all.
But, um, but, yeah, that's just.
Uh, I think the heart mathinstitute has even quantified it
scientifically.
They call it electromagneticfield that the heart puts off.
But that's only one of threeaspects of what actually makes
up the field that we all have.
Um, some people see that as anaura that is more tight to the

(01:06:45):
body, but technically it's moreof kind of like an orb or a
spheroid uh torsion field aroundus.
And, uh, if, if we were to, youknow, take all the matter away
and just see each other as weare, that's probably more akin
to what we actually would looklike.
Are these, um, orbs of light,if you, a light of information

(01:07:06):
and consciousness?

Do you know anything about the colors
of the auras?
Did they mean different things?
Can you see them?
Did you ever learn what thedifferent colors are?

Yeah, our energy.
We have this very massivespectrum of emotions, right,
everything from love to fear andall these different
denominations in between, andvery similar to stuff like
Terrence was just talking about.
A lot of frequencies can alsobe ascribed to a color, right.
And so when you're seeingthings on that way, even within

(01:07:42):
our energy field right now,there's all these like different
spirals of color, and each oneof those colors does represent a
different emotion that we'vehad throughout the day or a
different feeling that has comeup in us, and so if you have
that perception isolated to justan aura, that would probably
look like it's almost changingcolor, similar to a mood ring or
something like that, where it'slike if the person's angry, it

(01:08:03):
goes red, or arbitrarily, or ifthey're, you know, scared, it
goes a different color, orsomething like that.
But, um, you know, it's aboutperception and people perceive
things in different ways, butthe signals are the same.
Basically, is what they'repicking up different
clairvoyance.
Some of them just see like a, ashape or a shadow where a ghost
is, and some of us see full,full definition.

(01:08:25):
But either way, we're bothseeing something in the same
place, right that?
Uh, when it comes to seeingsubtle energy like that.
Uh, it's different for differentpeople and I actually encourage
that, which is a thing withinmagical teachings that is
discouraged, right, like theguided meditations where sit,
the way I tell you to breathe,the way I tell you to visualize

(01:08:45):
what I tell you to to you're amartial artist, add what is
specifically your own is alwaysan important part, and that's
something that we need to dowhen it comes to these spiritual
abilities is not be so hung upon.
You know, is the way that I'mseeing it correct, because Tom
said he said it is thoughtdifferently, right?
No, the way that you're seeingit is the way that you see it.

(01:09:06):
There's something there andthat's the way you're
identifying it, and that'simportant part of the thing that
we get discouraged by.

That keeps us away from it, to be honest,
and how it's almost like whenpeople are totally closed off to
the belief of something likethat, that they never would have
an experience like that, andthey, they kind of want to stay
there too, like if I don't thinkabout it, it won't happen if I,
if it's not out of sight, outof mind yeah conviction is is
that what we're convinced of atthe end of the day?

is you know a big part of what we experience, a
big part of what happens?
And uh, yeah, if you don't haveanything to base that on and
you're just following whateverybody else is telling you,
then we end up with thiscollective reality that we have
where, unfortunately, themajority of those are doing it
and those of us who see it in adifferent way are the minority
now.
But uh, yeah, if we can switchthe sides, if you will, or turn

(01:09:54):
those tides, if you will, thenit will change as well.
And that's how we get bigchanges in the world.
And when I talked about theevolution we're going through, I
believe that that's where thisleads.
As dark as it kind of sounds tosay that they're trying to
strip all of our natural abilityand sell it back to us as
technology, the end result ofthat is we're going to see the
technology and be reminded ofthe truth and be reminded of

(01:10:16):
reality.
I thought about this listeningto a Joe Rogan podcast the other
day, with the gentleman talkingabout simulation theory,
because the way that he'sdescribing things, this is kind
of how the universe works.
It's kind of how each planetworks.
It's just he's subscribing itto like some type of computer,
whereas maybe it's just someform of consciousness that we
don't understand right, but theprinciples and the way that it's

(01:10:37):
rendering for all of us almostindividually, would still all be
true.
So that's a way that I think.
I believe that we're buildingthese simulations out the way
that we are, so that we can getmore in touch with the way that
this particular planet actuallydoes work.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:10:52):
I'm pretty sure, I'm almost positive.
I know your answer, but it'sbeen kind of a thing of mine
lately to ask our guests Are youa flat earther?
I am not.

No, I understand the perception of it.
It falls very much into what Iwas just talking about.
It's an organic technology.
It's not solid the way that wethink it is, and it is
responding to consciousness andtherefore we can alter things.
They can't get those 3D physicsright either Right, and so when

(01:11:25):
our brain is processing all ofthis, we don't quite see it
right, but there's enough proofin the results to know that this
isn't a flat Earth.

I'm not sure.
I don't know what we're on.

Do you?

think it is a ball then?
And what NASA tells us?
And we're spinning millions ofmiles through space.

Still not exactly Right.
Yeah, I don't know.
It would probably be a wholeother podcast for me to go too
too deep into this, but, um, youknow, a lot of this spinning is
, let's say, incorrect, but mostof it is right.
There's just, there's afundamental misunderstanding
there.
Um, some of the stuff thatterence was coming out with as

(01:12:04):
an example, tesla came out with,as well many other people
besides him.
I was just using him becauseit's like new in the zeitgeist,
right, that guy coming out withthat stuff.
That's a lot closer to it.
There's this element offrequency and sound that we
haven't quite quantified enoughto control yet and definitely
not enough to explain to eachother yet.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:12:25):
I think that's like the biggest, or one of the
biggest technologies from thepast that we've lost is the
sound frequency technology.
I mean, I'm sure they have it,they, but the general people
don't you know?

Yeah, when you look at the most ancient
languages, it's basicallysinging, right, and there's a
reason for that.

Anyone who plays music or listens to music
knows that there's magic there,right, so that's undeniable
what do you think is theearliest languages, because I
know there's a lot of differenttheories of what came first or
what it sounded like in moderntimes.

I wouldn't even know, to be honest.
Um, yeah, I think they all kindof came out around the same
time, which is probably why theyall kind of came out around the
same time, which is probablywhy they all fight about it.
I think that line that's in thebook is not exactly true, but
the idea of, like, confuse theirlanguages so that they can't
talk to each other, I think thatthat did happen, and it just
happened basically with theformation of this Illuminati,
when I was talking about themsending out people to kind of

(01:13:25):
share information.
That's when the languages as weknow them today were all ended
up being formed.
And that's a, you know, that's acontrol structure in and of
itself, because even if you getinto some old forms of Arabic,
there's been people who've beenable to change the color of a
flame on a candle by sayingdifferent words.
Right, there's an aspect tothat.
We see it in orcas, we see itin dolphins, we see it in

(01:13:46):
humpback whales, we see it inall kinds of birds, all kinds of
different things.
If you have a guitar, drop itinto 432 hertz and tell me you
don't feel a difference.
Right, there's literally aharmonic there.
That doesn't exist in 440.
And yeah, that's an old pathwayof technology.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:14:06):
Well, shane, you are amazing.
My man and we, we are so happyto have people like you around
and especially we are happy tohave people like you that are
willing to come on shows likeours and and just kind of you
know, tell what you can.
But we absolutely appreciate it, man.
I know I learned a fucking tona ton and I'd love to have you

(01:14:27):
back.
I, we absolutely appreciate it,man.
I know I learned a fucking tonA ton and I'd love to have you
back.
I'm sure Tom would too.

Definitely gonna have to do it again.

Yeah, man, anytime We'd love to talk to you about
martial arts, actually, and howmagic and martial arts used to
be connected and they've beenseparated for a reason.
That's why we have McDojo lifein our genetic memory.

That would be an amazing episode.
We should definitely talk aboutthat next time, because I've
been feeling that more and more,and I even have a video on my
YouTube channel called Wrestlingis a Spiritual Ritual and, yeah
, I think that's going to be thenext one.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:14:55):
Yeah, cool.
Is there anything you'reworking on that you'd like to
promote?

I mean, if you guys put the beginning of the
link tree URL up there after theslash Shaneane underscore sudor
, you'll find all my links.
I do have a patreon channelbecause I don't like dealing
with the general public in thisconspiracy world anymore, and so
I put the paywall there to belike at least you're not an
asshole.
If you're gonna, you know, comein and pay for it.
Um, but I do everything therein terms of podcasting.

(01:15:20):
I do, you know five or six ofthem a month, a whole backstory
to all of this stuff.
That goes into a lot moredetail.
There's a fictional blog outthere called the Ruiner Blog.
You could read I wrote that andit's got all of this
information coded in it as well.

(01:15:40):
And, if anybody is interested, Ido teach what I do in terms of
magic, because all of thedifferent things that I learned
how to do I choose not to do.
But it's a muscle and if youlose your muscle it's really
hard to get it back.
It took a long time to developthat muscle and you don't want
to lose it, right?
So what I developed for myselfa number of years ago was kind
of a way that I could practicemagic without doing magic, I

(01:16:11):
call it practicing in safetymode, kind of like on a computer
, how you can download a newprogram and try it out in safety
mode without damaging yourcomputer, same type of thing.
And so this is all the thingsthat I learned through them,
that I've kind of modified in myown way, and uh, I now teach
other people.
Uh, it's a like a one-on-oneclass.
The price is 333, becausethat's a fun number, and uh, we
do it over three different calls, one-on-one that way.
I know at the end of each callyou understand everything and I
can put it in words that youunderstand and that kind of

(01:16:32):
thing, as opposed to teaching aclass who people might be afraid
to ask questions, right, butbut uh, yeah, that's about that
fucking shane sudor.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:16:43):
And if you listen to this and you were a
little unclear on why we had him, a previous guest, mike turpin,
the psychedelic athlete.

He recommended him and, boy, he
didn't disappoint brother thatwas definitely one of the more
wild ones that we've had and,like I asked him, normally when
we ask these type of questionswe're we're reaching or trying
to pull something out of them,but we already know this guy's
gonna have some crazy stuff totell us, and we mentioned the
cryptids and the vampires andshit.

(01:17:14):
It was a at least on my end apretty captivating episode dude.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:17:19):
yeah, this was awesome.
I mean, it was just like youand me were just like asking her
questions and he was just goingand I don don't know if I, I
don't know, I don't know what tothink.
I don't, you know, I don't, Idon't know what to think.
But I will say this I do try tostay pretty level headed, even
though I do believe in a lot offucking conspiracies.

(01:17:39):
But a lot of what he was saying, like when I asked, hey, do you
know who Stuart Swerdlow is he?
Hey, do you know who StuartSwerdlow is he?
Yep, you know.
He knew exactly who he was andhe even corroborated a lot of
what Stuart said.
And one of the things he wassaying I wanted to ask him and
didn't get a chance to was whenhe was explaining the abductions
and the drug-induced and howthey're gone for a few days and

(01:18:00):
then these memories start coming.
That's the Travis Walton story.
That's fire in the sky.
You know, I mean everything hewas saying.
It's like the David Politisthing, it's like I've heard from
somewhere before, and I'm notsaying that in a bad way.
I'm saying that as that addscredence to Shane.

So it's crazy.
Yeah, everything he said wasjust tying together a lot of
conspiracy stuff that you knowit would have come from insiders
or people like him to evenreach the public.
Like all these cults, theseoccult people, the you know the
beliefs, like I have a prettygood idea of what I think the
so-called elites believe andlike what kind of like occult

(01:18:40):
stuff they're up to and, yeah,pretty much spot on what he said
.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:18:44):
It it's like the Canadian.
It's like the Canadian.
Stranger Things don't you know?

There's definitely a lot of Canadians
like him, I've noticed and itmakes sense because their
government is completely pussyand annoying and like invasive.
It's like a little bit worseAmerica.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:19:03):
You know, I recorded the Zoom meeting as
soon as we got on and we werejust kind of bullshitting a
little bit.
You know, I recorded the Zoommeeting as soon as we got on and
we were just kind ofbullshitting a little bit.
You know, waiting for you, andwe talked a little bit about
politics and being in Canada andTrudeau, and yeah, maybe we'll
try to tie that in there.
But yeah, he was biased andbasically, hey, from down here,

(01:19:23):
fucking Trudeau looks like aclown.
You know, I'm sure it'sdifferent, like I'm sure the
spin is different up there.
And he, he essentially said,yeah, he's a fucking goof, and
unless you're a liberal, ofcourse but yeah, man, um, canada
used to be a place now, okay, Ican't go there, I'm a felon,
right but it used to be a placethat I really wanted to go to

(01:19:43):
and now that I can't, I don'teven, I don't even like I don't
even feel bad because of the waythat that country, where it's
headed you know what I mean likeit's.
It's falling fast, bro.
Hopefully we're not rightbehind him.
I definitely think we'refucking behind him, maybe in
front of him, maybe in some ways?

yeah, do you think was the craziest thing
, shane?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:20:06):
said Fuck, dude, the craziest thing.
He said oh my gosh.
Okay, I don't know.
I would obviously have toprobably listen to it four or
five times to really identifythe craziest thing, but I'll
tell you, one of the craziestthings that I always have a hard
time grappling with is thereptilian thing.
No one wants to believe thatthey're real more than me.

(01:20:29):
I just have a hard timebelieving that there is
reptilian shapeshifters that arereally walking around.
Maybe having a hard time is thewrong way, because it's not
really that far-fetched in mymind.
However, that's just one of theones I do have a difficult time
kind of grasping or buying into, if you will, but he says it

(01:20:50):
like he knows it he says thatit's happening.

The reptilians was always one of the
easiest easiest to believebecause it's one of the coolest
sounding oh definitely thecoolest sounding dude,
definitely it almost gives thema little bit too much power,
though, when you consider, likehe was saying, though, blaming
some type of an off-world entityinstead of just these piece of
shit people who are behind it.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:21:12):
maybe the craziest thing that he said was
the atlantis, how the spaceshipatlantis came down and then they
called the civilizationatlantis.
I definitely think that somesome folks may have came down,
but yeah, I don't know.
I mean a lot of what he said Ido buy into, it's just I don't

(01:21:32):
know man.
This podcast was spooky in away because of what he was
saying.
It was informative, it wasspooky, it was kind of like an
amalgamation of all these kindof different feelings, you know.

Can I honestly say it was probably the
creepiest one we've done, in away, just because it did feel
like, oh shit, no, this guy'sbeen there and seen that and
done that, which is howcalculated and just nonchalantly
talking about it.
Yeah, Definitely going to haveto do a McDojo martial arts one
with him.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:22:00):
Oh yeah yeah, I was going to ask him too.
I was going to be kind of uh,it was gonna kind of be like a
fucking goof.
At the end I was gonna be like,hey, uh, before before we let
you go, probably the mostimportant question who's the uh,
best canadian mma fighter ofall time?
Because if he says anybodybesides george saint pierre, you
know what, though?
So shane, he left when he waslike 18, 19, 19,.

(01:22:23):
He said he was able to leavesuccessfully.
He tried once before and itdidn't work out.
Well, he probably had to stayaway from a lot of pedophiles.

Thank you Bye.

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