32 | Banks Drinnen | The Bell Witch, Werewolves and Paranormal Hunts | "It Sounded Like A Ghoul" - Conspiracy and Chill Podcast

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Alright, so I'm Banks Drennan.
I've been doing some paranormalinvestigations recently.
I've only done about three, andthen I've investigated this
really rough hotel.
Um, I've been doing youtubesince I was 10 years old, but I
think I finally found my shtickand I'm just gonna keep making
some more investigations and I'mhere to talk to you guys about

(01:43):
yeah, bro appreciate you doingthis.

Hey, no problem, I appreciate y'all for
having me on.
Yeah, I saw your uh, yourwerewolf video dude and I
watched that, and then I saw thescreamer, and then I watched
their hotel video or your motelvideo and then I watched um the
bell witch.

Yeah, yeah, that was the first one.

Yeah, it was pretty cool you're.
You're a young dude, bro, howold are?
Was pretty cool.
You're a young dude, bro, howold are you 18.
Holy fuck, you're a young man.

I'm a young disgust yeah.

Yeah, young disgust.

Hey, you're kind of like a paranormal thrill
seeker.

I guess.
So I kind of just want to seeeverything you know yeah.

Where are you from?

I'm from Middle Tennessee, like a few minutes
outside of Nashville.

Definitely a lot of creepy stuff down there.

Oh, yeah, definitely.

Are you familiar with this is something
that I've been getting into alot lately is like the werewolf
dogman thing and are youfamiliar with I think it's in
Kentucky, it's called the landbetween the lakes.
Dude, there's so many fuckingwolfman dogman sightings from
that area area it's like it'sonly like we're in illinois,

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it's only like six hours from us.
So I was like, huh, that mighteven be worth the trip down
there, dude, because, like, Iguess there's been so many
sightings that go back to likethe 1500s and supposedly there
was a massacre in 1982 wherewolfman actually like killed a
family.
I don't know, bro, I don't know.

Yeah, I've been kind of going down that.

That's in kentucky I think, yeah, it's the
land between the lakes.

It's called and I'm pretty sure werewolves, or
is there like other shit upthere?

too, dude.
Well, so there's a long story.
They've seen dog men up there,werewolf, they've seen bigfoot.
Um, there's, there's a lot ofuh, history, I guess.
Okay, so in like the early1800s, early 1900s, people lived
there like rural, like it wasout in the middle of nowhere.
So the government came in andthey did imminent domain, which

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is they take your land.
They can just come in and takeyour land and they offer you
what they consider fair money,which isn't fair.
So they kicked all thesethousands and thousands and
thousands of families off theirland that was been in there
probably forever.
And they promised to um, thereason why they did it is they
were going to bring electricityto all these rural areas.
Well, it never happened.

(04:00):
So there's a lot of likeresentment, animosity in that
area and supposedly it goes backto like like even before that,
the indians put like a curse onit.
You know who the fuck knows,but it's a, it's a like a remote
place man.

It looks scary.
I need to go check it out.
I've been.
I've been meaning to uh starttraveling outside of the state.
You know, like the onlyinvestigations I've ever done
have been just kind of aroundhere, like Like the farthest
we've ever went was Bell Witchand that was only 40 minutes
away.
So I got some plans to go someother places soon.
You know, that's cool.
I was watching some of y'all'sstuff on Spotify earlier.

(04:35):
I can't remember which one Iwas watching.
Let me pull it up real quick.

Some of them are pretty out there.

Paul Stobbs.
I think he's wild bro.
Yeah, yeah, I heard him talkingabout.

I can't remember what he was talking
about fucking nephilim probably,yeah, probably.

It's like christianity or something, no
doubt this is the first podcastI've ever been on hey, let's go,
man.

Yeah, you'll definitely get more, bro.

You'll definitely get more invite.
Just keep doing what you'redoing, dude.
You're, you're fucking, you'redoing good man.
I think your videos are verywell put together, dude.
It's entertaining.
Like I said, I fucking bingedlike four or five straight
through it.
I was like, oh, I wonder if wecan get this dude on man.
So yeah, here we are.

Yeah, I appreciate that yeah, I was up
in.
Uh, you guys know, likegatlinburg tennessee, you ever
heard of that?
I've heard of gatlinburg yeah,I was up there and I was just
looking through watchingInstagram and I saw that and I
was like no way, it's like twoo'clock in the morning.
You're like want to come on.
I was like hell, yeah, I wantto come on so what would you
think got you started?

you just always had an interest in creepy,
mysterious type of things, oryou heard some local legends and
wanted to investigate them.

So like whenever I was a little kid they told us
about the bell witch, but justtrying to scare us, like we were
just out there, they're justtrying to scare us.
And my friend's dad was like Imean, that's not real man, Like
that's not real.
I don't even know why you'reinterested in it, but I started
watching so many videos on itwhen I got home and so I always
had that like interest in theBell Witch.
And one night, me and two of mybuddies, we left this movie

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theater that was like 40 minutesaway and we were watching
Spider-Man across theSpider-Verse.
And whenever we were drivingback home we took back roads and
it was just real foggy.
Man, we were out there in WhiteBluff and it was real foggy.
We were like, dude, what's outthere?
We can't even see right now,what could be out there right
now.
And my friend was just talkingabout the white bluff screamer

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and I was like I wonder if it'sactually out there, like I
wonder if there's actuallysomething out there.
And so we started talking aboutthe white bluff screamer I'd
heard about werewolf springs,started talking about that and I
kind of brought back the bellwitch that I'd learned about
when I was a kid, and then itjust kind of like an idea like
sparked in my mind.
I was like trying to figure outmy place on YouTube at the time
, Like I was I think I was ajunior in high school and I was

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like that's what I need to startdoing is going out there and
trying to crack down on theseanswers, you know.
So that's where it all started.

What was the first hand investigation?
First thing you went out anddocumented.

Then oh, the first thing we did was the bell
witch, because that was likewhat started it all.
I was like you know what?
I'm gonna start with the bellwitch, because the thing that's
hard about a man is like there'snowhere to go, like werewolf
springs.
There was a, there wassomewhere to go like the
werewolf springs and like thewhite bluff screamer, there
really wasn't anywhere to gojust out there in white bluff,

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like there's no destined spot.
But the bell witch cave man.
That's like kind of a touristattraction.
Like we paid like 25 to get inthere a bit of a ripoff, but we
just went up there, drove upthere one day, me and three of
my buddies we went and checkedthat out.
Yeah, I kind of didn't do anyfor a few months until the white
bluff screamer idea popped intomy head.

I think it's awesome that we have uh
young dudes like yourselfgetting into the game and I
really like what you bring.
You bring, you bring a reallevel head to it, which I
appreciate.
You know, like every littlenoise you're not like oh, what
the?
But at the same time, on yourwerewolf springs investigation
video, you uh you said you heardlike this fucking heavy
breathing and and that was thatfucking so.

(08:11):
When that happened, I was likesomething.
Something really happened.
Because you don't strike me asa dude, that was just.
You know you're not making shitup out there, so can you tell
us?

a little bit about that, all right.
So at the beginning of thatvideo, like I talk about that
noise at the end of the bellwhich video?
And how it was fake, because Ididn't know it was fake, I
didn't know.
The dude swore up and down.
We made him swear on a Biblethat he didn't fake that noise.
And then one day we were outand about and I was like, did
you fake that noise?
And he was like, yeah, dude,that was, that was fake.
And I was like what the hell,like why would you do that?

(08:48):
And he was like well, I was justtrying to make the video
entertaining like it was aboring video and I was like,
well, I mean I don't want tofake shit, man, and what's
y'all's y'all cuss on here?
Is that cool, please?
Yeah, you're good, all right.
And then, uh, I was like man, Idon't want to fake anything, I
was just pissed like I don'tknow that made me so mad.
So in that werewolf springsvideo I made that claim and I
didn't want to dramatize it LikeI don't want to be out there
and like I see so manyparanormal videos on YouTube and
they're just kind of cringy.

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You know what I mean?
Yeah, kind of like I don't knowthe over-dramatized it put this
heavy music behind it and I'mlike it's not that scary.
Like I saw these dudes go tothe Bell Witch the same places I
was at and they made it seemlike it was terrifying.
But it really just isn't thatscary.
When you're there, I mean likethere's, there's animals out
there in the woods.
Like I had to kind ofunderstand that there was

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animals.
But when I was camping outthere by myself, I mean you can
hear everything.
Like you can hear every singlesquirrel that walks by, every
single gust of wind, everything.
And I mean I was shivering thewhole night just scared, because
I was hearing some heavyfootsteps, I think.
One time I probably heard likea deer or something, cause it
was pretty heavy.
But then later in that night Iwas sitting in my tent around

(09:51):
1130 and, uh, I was justthinking.
I was like man, how the hell amI going to be able to sleep out
here?
Like I'd almost fallen asleep.
Then I got woken up a few timesand I was like there's no way
I'm gonna be able to fall asleepout here.
And I was so close to fallingasleep, I was so close.
But then I heard a noise comingfrom probably I said 20 feet.
In the video it was probably 20yards.
It was like up the hill, alittle bit behind the shelter.

(10:14):
It sounded like a ghoul man,like it sounded more like a
ghost or something than awerewolf, to be honest.
Like it sounded like it was agust, like that's the best way I
could describe it would be likea gust, but it was terrifying.
It sounded like.
It sounded like whispering butbreathing.
I don't know how to make thatmake sense an ethereal sound.

(10:36):
It was weird, man.
It was weird.
And I mean I I heard it and Isat there for a second and froze
and I was gonna film it.
But whenever I turn my cameraon, like it makes a kind of a
noise.
So I thought maybe if I turn mycamera on it might come and
fucking kill me.
So I didn't.
And then whenever I unfroze, Iturned my camera on and I just
thought I was like what am Idoing?

(10:56):
Like I'm not, I'm out here bymyself in a tent, like I'm not
going to be able to fall asleep,like, um, this thing might come
and kill me in the middle ofthe night.
So I just got out, didn't evenzip my tent up.
I think I zipped it likehalfway and got jammed and I
just hauled it back to the car.

But it was terrifying, man, it was really
scary, it was real scary iswhere you're camping, near
what's the uh bell witch cave?
No, I was camping next to thewerewolf springs, okay I know a
little bit about the bell witch,not a lot.
Do you guys want to go into alittle bit of the lore around
idea of what the bell witch isand what the werewolf uh springs
?
I've never heard of werewolfsprings, so all right, go ahead.

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So you want to talk about thebell witch or the werewolf
springs?
You can give a little uhsynopsis on both.

All right, I'll start with the bell witch.
So like I'd always beeninterested in the bell witch,
watch videos on it when I was alittle kid.
So basically there was a family, the bell family, and they had
this house out in adams,tennessee, for a little while
and they didn't have anyproblems.
But then one night they startedexperiencing some like really
unnatural stuff.
Like the daughters would gettheir hair pulled, they would

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get punched in the face whileshe was asleep and like they
would hear like rats crawlingfrom underneath their bed and
scratching their bed frames,like rats scratching from the
walls, and they had priests comeout there and look and they
claimed it as haunted.
But eventually they just had tolearn to live with it and it
became a big deal, man.
A bunch of people startedknowing about it and even Andrew

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Jackson came out there andspent the night at that house
one night and he left and hesaid I'd rather take on the
british army again than try andsleep there.
So it was like that was likeone of the first documented like
paranormal things.
That was like a big deal inrural america, because I think
it was like early 1800s was whenthat happened.
That's like a scary time period, dude, because Because there's

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no pictures of anything, I thinkthat's kind of scary.
So John Bell, he actually diedin that house.
He's the only.
I don't know if he's the only,but I know that he was the first
documented death of a man tocome from paranormal encounters.
How do I even word that?
The first supernatural death inhistory, I guess, was John Bell

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.
So I mean, that's a big legend.
A lot of people know that one.
That's probably the mostwell-known one I've done.

That he got stabbed or something by a ghost
or choked by the spirit.
I have no idea.
And the idea is that someonefrom the Bell family haunts the
area.

I think it was a previous person who lived on
that land was who haunted it.
I can't remember.
I think the legend was thatsome woman got burned in the
fire pit or something and sheclaimed that land to be hers or
something.
I don't know.
I don't know that far back.
I just know about the Bellstuff.

Pretty close to your area in Tennessee.

Yeah, it's probably about 40 minutes out
and it's all heavily wooded.
Yeah, man, that town, I'll tellyou, that town is so much
scarier than anything about theBell Witch.
You go out there, there'snothing.
There's a Dollar General.
We try to get interviews,because I don't know if you've
seen how I try and getinterviews of people.
Well, in the bell witch we didnot get any interviews because

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we went to the dollar general.
It was the only place that wasout there.
No one wanted to talk to you,right?
No, dude, nobody to talk to.
And the people we did talk towere like get the hell out of my
face.
Like no way I will kill you.
Like they were scary out there.
Man, like I'm from a pretty, mytown's not too like backwoods
country it's a little bit, butthis place was like about as
backwoods country as you can getup in tennessee man, it's rough

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.

There is an eeriness to that and just the
deep wilderness, and then theother one, werewolf springs.
That's a location.

Yeah, I'm assuming there's a some werewolf
lore behind it, dude, I couldgo all day about that one.
That's probably the one I knowmost about.
So that's a little, assumingthere's a some werewolf lore
behind it, dude, I could go allday about that one.
That's probably the one I knowmost about.
So that's actually, you know,state park.
That's like not far from me atall, probably like 15 minutes.
It's a spot called montgomerybell and in the back of it
there's this little area calledhall springs and I mean there's
so many legends behind it.

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The legend goes that there wasa circus train leaving nashville
and as it passed it likederailed and a bunch of animals
let loose.
And there were these twoanimals called the wolf men of
borneo and they got let looseand they were never found,
apparently you can as tall as aman, like killed people and shit

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.
So the legend goes that theybred.
The legend goes that it was amale and a woman werewolf and
they bred and they just hauntedthose woods.
I mean there's so many reportsabout like people seeing them,
people getting murdered outthere, like there's a story that
the town hired a hunter to goout there and kill it and he saw
it and he ran off, like there'sa bunch to go behind it.

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But we talked to that guy inthat werewolf springs video.
I don't know if sawbuck mike,you've said you've seen it right
.
Yeah, I watched quite a few ofyour videos.
I binged him.
All right, cool, cool.

But tom you have it.
I'm not sure I'm a bigparanormal youtube guy, but uh,
not too familiar, go ahead.

And so I talked to this guy named uh named
justin spurlock because when Iwas researching werewolf springs
he'd actually written anarticle about it and he was a
teacher at my school and I waslike there's no way, I'm not
gonna interview this guy.
So I asked him and we went upthere that same day and we
interviewed him and he gave usthe big spiel about it.
He told us his experiencebehind it like a bunch of legend

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behind it.
But after we got done filmingthat episode he was kind of
skeptical on it, like he waskind of different off camera
than he was on camera.
He was more like, yeah, man, Imean the chances of there being
something out there are very lowlike it's kind of a wild story.
But he seemed to be verypassionate about it.
He said that he spent a wholesummer in the dixon library

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looking through newspaperarticles to see if he could find
the circus train wreck.
But he said he couldn't findanything.
So there's some skepticismbehind that legend.
But I mean, with my personalexperience of what I heard, I
think that there's probablysomething back there, like I
don't know if it's some biganimal or if it is a werewolf or
a ghost or what.
There's like three cemeteriesout there too.

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Who knows man, there reallycould be something out there.

I think that there more than likely is.
Are you familiar with BachelorsGrove Cemetery?
Uh-uh, is that in Tennessee?
That is, in Illinois, that'svery close to where I live and
it's yeah it's considered one ofthe most.

Yeah, that would be a place for you once
you start traveling, because Imean even tennessee and illinois
, not too far, but we could evenusually do one with them, yeah
that'd be crazy, bro.

I'd be so down because I used to go there all
the time.
It's a cemetery in the woods.
It's largely considered one ofthe most haunted uh woods or
cemeteries, at least like topten.
It'll make a lot of those likelists, like around the midwest
and uh, one of the most famouspictures ever considered real is
from there it's.

If you, if you google search the madonna
of bachelor's grove, you'regonna see a picture of a woman
ghost sitting on a tombstone andthat was taken by a legit
paranormal agency, like in Idon't know when I want to say
the eighties, and they, theybelieve that's like a hundred
percent authentic.
Talking about this, yeah, yep,yeah, it's got a lot of lore

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around it.

Like native American lore going way back
Then a cemetery.
There's a lagoon that wouldapparently like Capone and like
mobsters would drop bodies in.
There's a lot of cult rumorslike that.
There was like satanic orwhatever type of activity going
on there and it's just like avery uh, superstitious and hyped
up place and I've been there awhole bunch but I was kind of

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alluring this to.
I have seen I had my own dogman encounter there.
No, way like as I remember itand reflect on it, I think I've
told a little bit about it onthis show.
If not, it was when I was aguest on someone's show.
But I'll go over it real quick.
I was with a friend.
We were wandering around inthere.
It was winter too, so like it'spitch black middle of the night
.
But you know, when it's winterand there's snow on the ground

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you can see pretty well in thewoods and the trees are barren,
so that creates a little bit ofvisibility, even even though
it's super laid out and you goin the cemetery but then there's
just a bunch of woods.
As we're walking around thewoods I swore we heard some sort
of like weird growl or someshit.
But again, you know how it iswhen you're out and you're doing
spooky stuff you tend tooverlook because you're trying

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to keep yourself calm.
You're like not every noise issomething to be jarred about.
But we did take note ofsomething we heard 30 minutes
later or so.
We have to walk through thecemetery to get back out and
there was a large crouched likeblack figure that was on hind
legs but it was very likehunched back and huge.
I suppose it could have been aguy in like a trench coat just
there by himself in the fuckinggraveyard, but uh, you could see

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between the legs clearlybecause of the snow, like that.
It was just like big and inlike a crouched position and
we're probably I don't know 50yards away.
But my friend and I didn't evensay anything.
We just looked at each other,looked at that and like, just
took off running and kept oureyes on it until we were out of
sight.
But once we were running, dude,it felt like a very primal fear
, not like what was that?
Let's get out of here more likeuh, like you're gonna be chased

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.
Yeah, like predatory, like getthe fuck out of here.

You pray so even if it was just some dude in a
trench coat, like the hell's hedoing out there, still really.

Yeah, someone I don't want to run into
dude so for to explainbachelor's grove a little bit,
to even get to the cemetery partyou have to walk through about,
or just about, a mile, a forestpreserve.
You're parking down the streetat night illegally trying to,
and it's off of a pretty busyroad now the entrance to the
forest preserve, although tomknows it back way because he's

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been there way more than me.
My point is you have to walkabout a mile through a dark,
scary forest preserve on thisnarrow trail before you even get
to the gates of the cemetery,that which is bachelor's grove.
Yeah, that's how.
That's how werewolf springs was.
Oh, it's terrifying, bro.
Like I've been there a handfulof times but never, I mean, I've

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.
You know it's felt weird, but Ican, never, I can't say I've
seen something like that.
But you know things don't feelright there.
You know I will say that, andI've been talking about it a lot
recently where I've beenlooking into, like Dogman and
Wolfman a lot, and I thought Iwas going to easily be able to
just this is a silly one, youknow, but what I'm finding is
there's so much fucking evidencefor it being legitimate.

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I mean, there's so many peoplethat seem credible, like cops
and military guys that havesightings and it's like I don't
know man.
It just makes me wonder.
It's fucking terrifying.
You said state park.
Are you familiar with DavidPaulides?
David Paulides, he is a formercop who does the Missing 411,

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where he investigates all thesedisappearances that happen in
these state national parks Superfamous David Paulides Just
Google Miss missing 411.
And he puts together all thesedisappearances that have crazy,
like unexplainable coincidences,and they all happen in these

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state parks national and stateparks and how the government is
basically conspiring to keep itfrom us because that's so many
billions of dollars a year intourist revenue.
He kind of alludes to it beinglike a Bigfoot or a supernatural
or aliens, or he doesn't reallyhe won't say definitively what

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he thinks it is, but he kind ofalludes to it in a lot of his
books and interviews.
Yeah, dude, there's somethingout there, right?

Yeah, definitely , definitely.
Interviews yeah, dude, there'ssomething out there, right?
Yeah, definitely definitely.
Pretty much what I was going toallude to is like, uh, the
forest aspect of it and likebanks.
You said something about alegend of two physical, actual,
you know, potential wolfman orweird, like hybrid, like who
knows, maybe government made butmore of like a physical animal
out there.
But since yours it was in likea paranormal hot spot type of

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place and same with when I sawit at bachelor's grove or
something like.
Do you believe it's probablysomething to do?
When mike was talking about themissing 411, there's some sort
of like spiritual, uh, or likesomething about the locations or
maybe deep woods that dimensionhas like a crossover, yeah, to
where these dogmen, thesecreatures and like it's all uh,

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rather than like a physical,like a, like a bigfoot type of
animal, that it'sinterdimensional or spiritual or
like a demon, something likethat.
Do you get that vibe?

I kind of do like I'm very skeptical, like I'm
very skeptical about all of it,like I do not know if any of
it's real and I don't know ifany of it's fake, like I'm just
out here trying to get my answeron it.
But I saw something today.
Hang on, let me pull it up realquick.
It said um, paranormal expertssay there may be a portal in
english forest letting inwerewolves yeah bro.

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Maybe maybe there's a portal outthere in hall springs letting
them in.
You know never.
You never know like it could beparanormal.
It could have came from a trainwreck.
It could be government made, itcould be just a legend to try
and get tourists to the park.
It could be anything, becausewerewolf springs isn't even
actually called werewolf springs, it's called hall springs and
the park doesn't really talkabout the werewolf aspect of it

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because I mean, probably wouldscare some people off.
So you never know, man, like itcould be paranormal.
I mean, especially with allthose old ass cemeteries out
there, like I mean there'sgraves that date back to the
late 1700s out there.
You never know, you reallydon't.

it really is, uh , you know, just kind of
anything that we don't have aexplanation for officially in
quotes, or you know that sciencedoesn't acknowledge or doesn't
fully know how to explain yet,is just considered, uh, you know
, fringe, or crypto, orparanormal, whatever you want to
call it.
They used to call itspiritualism or other types of

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things.
I will say, though and I wouldactually like to get this guy on
here eventually too once timeat bachelor's grove there was a
he considered himself like thegroundskeeper I guess he ran the
website, but he's just a guywho was very obsessed with
bachelor's Grove that I metthere, and he kind of changed my
thinking on this too, and Idon't know if it was his
original theory or whatever, butright next to this bachelor's

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Grove cemetery, within like acouple blocks, is a large ass
old radar tower, like a turningtower for like airport grids or
something like that, I imagine,but it's a big like rotating
radar tower, cell tower,airplane tower, I'm not sure
exactly the purpose.
Anyway, he said that those,wherever there's like big things

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like that, there's usuallyparanormal hot spots, so places
all around the world, who knows,maybe the hollow springs or the
werewolf springs that you weretalking about, and nearby
there's usually paranormalhotspots, so places all around
the world, who knows, maybe thehollow Springs or the werewolf
Springs that you were talkingabout, and nearby there's
probably some sort of a weirdconductor.

that was you know opening up, yeah, exactly A
hotspot of paranormal activity,just like that portal was
talking about and that thing Ijust talked about.

Yeah, I mean that park.

it's 4,000 acre and it's just a bunch of
unmarked land that people don'treally use.
There could be anything outthere, you never know.

I think that ancient cultures too, when they
would erect a giant standingstone or stone circles or some
grove in the woods, they knewthat was the closest place where
the veil was thin or whateverthat they could communicate with
the spirits or they would seethem or they'd come in and out.

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And you said you're skepticalon most things and you're trying
to prove it, and I love that uhmentality for it because, like
mike said, it's, it's a lotbetter than the kook or a zach
baggins being like wait whatthis is real, look at this.
And like just trying to, youknow, reach for those grapes.
But is there anything that hasmade you be like oh shit, like
completely flip the script?
Anything you've seen ordocumented or gone out and
witnessed personally?

So before I get into that question, I have a
question for Sawbuck.
Mike, the guy that you weretalking about, the Dave Politis
is that the guy who Mr Ballintalks about?

Oh, he's talked about him quite a bit.
He's referenced his work.

That's what I was thinking yeah, that's what I
was thinking.
Yeah, that's what I wasthinking.
All right, so back to yourquestion now.
All right, um, definitely,whenever I was at the Bell Witch
cave, um, like I said, thatnoise that we caught at the end
of it, like the dude said, itwas fake.
It was just him in the mic, butbefore that, at the very back
of where you can go to in thetourist attraction, there's like

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this huge room and it's justdark and there's a pool of water
.
It's like crystal clear waterand everybody else that started
going to the front of the cave,but I stayed back and I didn't
have my mics turned on and Ifeel so stupid for not having my
mics turned on, but I washearing just like noises, like
it sounded like whispers, butyou didn't understand what they

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were saying coming back fromthat cave.
So that shit was weird, thatwas really weird.
And, uh, with the white bluffscreamer, I didn't experience
anything.
I think that's probably justlike some sort of cat or
something out there in the woodsscreaming.
I don't, I don't think that'sanything, but with werewolf
springs, definitely that noisethat I heard at the end of the
video, the gust of just whisperand howling kind of sound.

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That was scary.
Man, like I've been hearingnoises all night and I'd brushed
it off because I was like Imean, dude, it's probably just
squirrel, deer or something, younever know, but this noise was
something.
It was something a lot moremajor than that.

So that kind of that, that's something that I
think is proof me personally Ilike that you alluded as a
otherworldly sound, like you'rea guy who lives in the nature,
you're camping in nature, you'rehearing other yeah, you know
natural sounds and, yeah,something about about that one I
think you used the termghoulish definitely would have
been alarming to hear out there.

Yeah, that was definitely the best.
That's the best way I coulddescribe it was ghoulish is
because at first I was likethat's fucking wearable.
Now that I think it sounded-way more like a ghoul.

This is kind of pissing me off, because
I was just listening to um theconfessionals merkel's podcast,
and they were talking about it'sa cern-like hedron collider,
and I don't remember if it's inkentucky or tennessee.
Oh, you're kidding.
Yes, and they even said theywanted to.
Their goal was to open portals.
The scientists said this andthen they retracted it.

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They were like oh, it's a joke,scientists don't joke.
But my point is that's not toofar from you.
There's a lot of supernaturalactivity that we've been talking
about, kind of reported in thatarea, and if you Google the US
equivalent to the HadronCollider, you're going to get
the Fermi National Laboratory inBatavia, illinois, which is 15

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minutes from my house.
Bro, damn Right, you know aboutfucking the Fermilab, right?
Mm-mm, I don't know anythingabout that.
I'm new to all this man, you gotto educate me.
Yeah, fermilab is um, it's likeyou've heard.
The fermi paradox is like ifthe aliens are out there, why
haven't we seen them?
It's that guy that coined it,but it's a secret.
It's like not a secret.

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There's, everybody knows thatit's there, but what?
As far as the research goes,they they're like splitting
atoms and doing like likesmashing particles into each
other with accelerators, likecern is is doing in.
Where's CERN?
Like Switzerland or some shit?
Yeah, and yeah, like a lot ofpeople have theorized that what
they're doing there is trying toopen like stranger things, like

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trying to open portals todifferent dimensions and shit,
dude, and it's like I don't know, it just makes you wonder.
Like there's like Tamwa-san sand, like there's always some kind
of like military installation,even with a lot of ufo sightings
.
You know, like if you gridthose, the frequency of
sightings and paranormal eventsaround military installations I
don't know, man correlationdoesn't always indicate that it

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is so, but it fucking definitelymakes you wonder.
You know what I mean.

Like coincidence I don't know, man, you know do
you have a lot of military basesout by you, yeah we kind of do
low-key, like we got there's apark just five minutes down from
me and it's got a base wherethey keep a bunch of humvees and
stuff and they have a bunch ofmilitary equipment, but like
super secret ones, like hawkinslab man, I can't really think of

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any.
But there's a bunch of weirdlike places out here, like
there's a bunch of factories,there's a bunch of huge
buildings that nobody ever talksabout, like nobody ever talks
about.
There's huge buildings out inthe power and I've always been
kind of skeptical on those alittle bit because I mean I love
, I love stranger thing, becausethat came out whenever I was
quite younger and that kind ofalways opened my mind to it and

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even when I was out there in thewoods in werewolf springs, like
I was thinking, I was like whatif some demogorgon type thing
comes out trying to kill me, man?
So I was thinking, I wasthinking, I've thought of that.
Maybe the werewolf came fromsome sort of portal.

It's definitely possible what you're doing is
definitely exciting.
You got to feel like you are ona monster quest, or or
something, in a way, even if youdon't think you're gonna find
anything, or if it's real likeyou are setting out to you know
you're seeking the mysteriouswhich is badass.

Your mind thinks for the worst.
Sometimes, man, you're outthere and you're like, oh my god
, like it's so much scarier thanwhat you think for sure for
sure, and that's a brutalmindset.

Uh, what are you trying to go for next?

uh, I mean, I don't want to explore just
paranormal, like I, like youwant to urbex and stuff too.

Urban exploration, you're trying to go
to these abandoned buildingsand like like I want to.

One of my biggest goals in life is to go to
chernobyl.
Like that's wild.
I always wanted to go tochernobyl and like I want to see
the things that I've alwaysheard about but like I've never,
nobody's ever gone and done.
Like you know, behind behindmount rushmore there's like some
abandoned hallway.

Yeah, I've never heard of that.
Yeah, they're supposed to belike.
Yeah, there's supposed to besome shit back there, yeah
that's.

I've always wanted to go there like dude, if
I get inside the pyramids, makea video inside the damn
pyramids.
That would be cool, like that'sthe goal, that's the big goal.
But right now, like I'mplanning on doing just more
paranormal stuff, like I got atrip planned for the next few
weeks.
I'm gonna drive to westvirginia with a few buddies and
we're gonna do the mothman ohyeah, let's go that's a more

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known one.
So I figured like that couldkind of bring some traction to
my channel a little bit.
And then I got a video plannedwhere, uh, there's a sunken town
in a few, a few towns away fromme.
There's this river I think it'sthe tennessee river and in the
40s they destroyed a dam and itwiped out the whole town.
Like they got everybody out butall the buildings are still

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down there, and like there'sthis huge grain elevator that
pops up over the water thatpeople go and visit, like Like
they have parties on top ofthere, but nobody ever talks
about that town.
And I feel like if I got one ofthose underwater drones, rented
, one of those, blew it downthere and look to see if there's
actually still buildings downthere and interviewed some of
the people that are out there inthat town, that could make a

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good investigation too.
Like just things like that,just the weird anomalies out
there, you know.

Sick.
How many too like just thingslike that, just the weird
anomalies out there.

You know sick how many subscribers you got on
youtube right now.
Right now I got 1500 I hit 1500a few days ago, but Hopefully I
can get to 10K by the end ofthe year.
That's my goal.
Good shit bro, I'm definitelygoing to give you a follow?

What's the channel called Just my Name?
I'm sure I've come across someof your videos.
Just literally hours of YouTubeshithole on anything mysterious
or paranormal.
That'll do it.
I'm sure I've come across it,but definitely going to support
that.
I'm pretty sure on my YouTubestudio it said that's how people

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come across my werewolf springsvideo just from other fucking
weird videos.

Yeah, yeah , you're in the right place now,
buddy.
I um, I searched the hallsprings and I searched how close
that would be to what we weretalking about earlier the land
between the lakes, and you'reonly about two hours and 15
minutes from there yeah, realclose to kentucky, like we go up
there a lot yeah, that would bean interesting one too, because
, um dude, honestly, from fromthe things that I've heard and

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the stories I've heard, it itsounds fucking frightening.
Like this one guy who used to bea cop, while his and when he's
telling his story, a firefighterwas killed the night, this
night, and him and his buddy sawnot only did they see two
werewolf men, but he saw twobigfoot too, and he doesn't know

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if the two bigfoot were tryingto protect him from the wolf men
or not.
But you gotta hear this guytell the fucking story.

So fucking crazy dude.
He even says it.

He even says it.
He's like listen.
He's like it's fucking stupid,does none of it make sense?
He's like you shouldn't believeme because it's it's but this
is what happened and man likehe's either a really good actor,
you know, or I don't know, man,but it's it's a real famous
case, he.
I discovered him on merkel'spodcast too, the confessionals.

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Uh, it's a really good podcast,banks, if you're into this kind
of shit, which seems like youare let me get into it, for sure
, yeah the uh mothman.

You know uh, so you're going to point pleasant,
I'm assuming, right.
You're gonna go out there andprobably hopefully get some good
interviews hopefully go outthere get some good interviews
first.

and uh, my buddy's actually been out there
with his dad and he said thatthey found like a bunker in the
woods out there.
He said down that road you getlike no cell service, it's like
pretty far away from the town.
But he said that him and hisdad found a bunker.
He said they didn't go in itbut it looked like it was opened
and you could just go in it butthere was a bunch of abandoned

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military equipment in thatbunker and like what the hell?
Like there's a abandonedmilitary bunker where the
mothman sightings are.
Like just back to what y'allwere saying.

maybe it's portal man, you never know and
they knew that they releasedsome shit and they were trying
to get ready to attack him orcapture him.

I mean, like I don't know if I'm gonna come
across anything paranormal, butI just want to go out there,
make a video to show what is outthere, like I want to do mostly
about that bunker because likethat's weird man, that's so
weird that'd be sweet to findthat.

Yeah, there needs to be some answer
questions out there in point,pleasant for sure there was some
mothman activity in chicago afew years ago and I don't know
if it still goes on, but yeah,people were seeing it here in
chicago.

I didn't know it went out all the way up there
there's a couple of famousphotos from the chicago
sightings.

One they, they.
A lot of people label it aspterodactyl, but yeah, it's like
it's.
It's obviously so you couldlike make out the arms and where
the feet are and the way dude,yeah, it was a great demon yeah,
could be a gargoyle demon, whothe fuck knows.
But again going back to like apolice officer saw it.
So it's like you know, it's notlike they shouldn't be fucking

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held in any more high regard.
However, they are trained toobserve, they are trained to be,
you know, with it in the momentand like tell the truth too,
right, you know.
So it's like that kind of addsa little bit more credibility,
you would think.
But adds a little bit morecredibility, you would think.
But yeah, I, I reserve theright to be skeptical and
everything too, but it's just,sometimes it's just it's like

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wow, either everybody's fuckingcrazy and full of shit or
there's something you know whatI mean yeah, no, for sure,
that's, that was one of my bigthings about werewolf springs
too is like what if it's just abunch of yellow journalism?

you know like what if it's just a bunch of
phony lies trying to get peopleto I don't know believe some
weird wacky story that they madeup?
But on the other hand, there'sso many reports of weird shit
happening out there.
Man and even I experiencesomething weird out there.
I'm kind of on the fence.
I'm kind of on the fence.
I don't know.
Obviously, everything thegovernment tells us isn't true,

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but there's some conspiracytheories that just go.
So out there.
You know like it's like no way,there's no way.
But that's what I'm here to do.
Man is trying to answer allthose questions.

Yeah, love it I tend to think it's it's way
crazier than even we cantheorize or think, sometimes
like I like to tell people yeah,dude, you like watching marvel
movies or whatever like yeah, Iknow your universe.
There's some crazy shit yeah,we all did, but then you think
the world we're in is fucking 10times crazier than that behind
the scenes exactly what's uh.

Like we all have like certain ones that
like we're super interested in.
Like tom is loves like druidstuff and I love alien shit,
like what's uh?
Do you have like a certain one,that certain one that you're
super into more than the others?

I like, I like alien shit, but that's probably
not the most one that I'minterested in the most, I guess,
just kind of like old folklorelegends because, like, I grew up
watching gravity falls, dude,that was my stuff whenever I was
a kid.
It was gravity falls and justthe weird stuff out there that
people have reported seeing,like gnomes and elves and like,
oh yeah, bro, werewolves andjust zombies, just weird shit

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like that.
That's what's always kind of.
I don't know what kind ofcategory that would be.
Would that be druids?
Crypto zoology?
I would say cryptids.

That's it crypto .
I have my dog man sighting,I've seen some orbs.
I've I've seen some strangelights in the sky, had some you
know, haunting stuff, with anabandoned house across the
street from me, and when I waslittle thing, the uh, the house
was haunted and whatnot.
I think the thing that wouldterrify me the most though it
makes me want to do it, thoughis being out camping in a tent,

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not knowing what the fuck isright outside that tent, or say
you're in, like I don't know,your car, just like something is
just outside of a littlebarrier to you, in the darkness,
in the wilderness, and thatshit's wild to me.

So I'm a giant pussy doing that.
I'm a giant.
You're never catching my fatass out there by myself.
Nope, if you guys want to dowith me, I'm in, but by myself
you're a better man than mebanks bro I didn't plan on doing
it by myself.

My plan was to have my cameraman, jonathan, and
my buddy asher to do it with me.
But jonathan had something popup because we planned on doing
it the day before, because itwas a full moon and I was like
there's no way we don't catchsomething oh my god but somebody
had already booked the sitelike it's a spot.
It's a site, it's a primitivecampsite in the back of
montgomery belly can rent andsomebody already booked it and

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uh, so we had to do it the dayafter and jonathan had something
pop up and asher, he made upsome bullshit.
Excuse, I don't, I don't thinkhe was just scared, asher you
got to get it in the tent.
If you're watching this guy, ifyou're watching this, asher, you
left me so high and dry outthere, man, come on, come on.
But yeah, it was terrifying,bro, it was so scary.
I was watching.
Y'all ever watched the outdoorboys may have come across it

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before he's like that guy.
He goes out in camps.

I was just watching him trying to stay
comforted scary I, uh, I imagineit could be hard to find
recruits to go on the monsterquest sometimes.
But hey, you're gonna make some, uh, some connections.
Now you're getting your contentout there, getting out some
podcasts.
I think if you come to illinoisand want to do a bachelor's
group one, me and mike wouldlove to join, that'd be badass.

That would actually be fun.
I'm down for that.
I got these two people that Inormally film with the names are
jonathan and jack, andjonathan's this like huge dude,
like he's like six, six, likemassive dude.
So it's good to have him there,you know, and he's a good
cameraman.
He's a damn good cameraman andI've started to like pay them a
little bit, as if I start makingmoney off these videos.

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Like I want to hook them up,you know, like kind of build a
team.

Kind of build a team, because I mean you can't
do it all by yourself.
No, not at all.
I've learned that and I couldlearn a little from you too.
I I got a youtube channel forlike my martial arts, to my
grappling stuff, and it's, uh,probably just under like 900,
850 subscribers or something.
I'm working my way to athousand.
You probably started justgetting paid after you got that

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thousand, so keep it up, dudenever made a cent off any of it.
No, no, I've been doing thatonce you hit one 1k that, uh,
you can get some monetization orsomething.

You gotta hit 1k and then you gotta get like 3500
watch hours in like a year orsomething.
So it's, it's wild like whatwas your.

What was your early youtube content gaming no
man, it was rough.

It was like me in my backyard, like screaming at
the camera and like jumping onmy trampoline.
Yeah, that's just fun little kidshit yeah, man, because I, like
I grew up that was the coolthing to do was to be a youtuber
, you know.
So I tried to do it myself andthen, once I started trying to
do it, like it kind of likelocked into my head like this is
what I'm gonna do, like I nevergave up and like I never, never

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had like a shtick, I guess youcould say.
I never had like a what's theword?
A genre that I was involved in,but I just kept making videos
until we were driving home thatnight and we were talking about
the weird out there in whitebluff and I was like you know
what, man, I think this is whatI need to do is do some
investigations, work my way upto doing the more crazy

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investigations.
Yeah, man, I love YouTube.
Like it's kind of like gives mea purpose.
You know what I mean.
Like I wake up and I think,like dude, I need to get on this
.
Like it gives me motivation.

Yeah, you're inspiring me, dude.
I am definitely not the mosttechnically proficient guy.
Mike handles all that here.
As far as the tech and theediting and the video or whatnot
, I'm, I'm pretty primitive withit, but it is fun and it is
cool.
Like so many people watchYouTube, dudes, you put out a
video.
You think nobody's fuckingwatching it, but hey, your
videos, mike, reach out to you.

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Boom, now here we are talking,like you had those ideas that
inspire you to do it.
So that's what I need to remindmyself sometimes to just make
the damn video yeah, I've alwaysheard man make what you love
and love what you make.

Man just get it out there fuck yeah.

And whenever you have those profound moments,
like it just hit you yeah, thisis what I'm gonna do.
And then it starts a fuckingjourney that you couldn't have
imagined, where?

it would take you .
No, never, dude, I never wouldhave thought I'd be on a podcast
talking about this shit rightnow well, somewhere deep down, I
think you did, because youstarted creating shit that just
aligns with it.

And, yeah, making content and finding your
stick and you're a young dudeand you're already going for it,
love it bro, I appreciate it,man.

Hey, so you're a uh, what do you do?
You're a mma fighter.
I dabble.

I have fought in mma.
I've cornered a lot of MMAfights.
I mostly stick to competing insubmission grappling and catch
wrestling and jiu-jitsudifferent styles of grappling,
martial arts mostly.
But yeah, I'm pretty immersedin the combat sports world.

He's a multi-time world champion catch
wrestler.
He's very modest.

What is catch wrestling?

Submission wrestling catch wrestler he's,
he's very modest.
Yeah, what is what is catchwrestling?

submission wrestling yeah, I mentioned wwe,
if it was real like if it wasjust uh, pin the guy or make him
tap out, so it's jujitsu withpins.
Or you could say it's like highschool college wrestling with
submission holds that's cool man, I've never heard of that.
Pretty sweet, yeah, most peoplehaven't nowadays, but uh, it's
definitely on the comeback.

That's cool as long as you're the best
something man he's a black beltin jiu jitsu too hell yeah, bro,
I'm not gonna pick a fight withyou guys.

Yes, I'm saying I'll have, uh, tom will
be my bodyguard out there.
Out there, because yeah, Iain't go, I'm no match for a
werewolf.

Yeah, I don't know, I don't know if any of us
are or a match for, uh,something in the spirit realm,
but I always did, like you guysobviously probably watched Ghost
Adventures, right, yeah, I'veseen him.

I don't think I did Zach.

Bagans, it's pretty old, though.
It might even honestly bebefore your time Banks or you
would have been really little.
But yeah, it was like one ofthe first real popular ghost
shows where they would go doinvestigations.
And I know they eventually didstart faking shit and on their
boring episodes, but uh, yeahzach baggins was like this yeah,
for sure it does.
This zach baggins guy was likethis jack, like 2000s, uh,

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affliction bro, like spiked hairtattoos, and he would always
try to like intimidate the ghostand have like this, this
hard-ass presence, like come on,ghost, like you want to do, you
want to mess with me, why don'tyou come out and like say
something, knock on the doorlike just very, uh, arrogant bro
type of character.
I always thought that shit washilarious, but hey, whatever you
got to do to create the spirityou man that could be you out

(46:05):
there let's go.

I'll be the next zach baggins well, I'm
sure that you're gonna be onmore podcasts, bro, and we will.
Uh, we'd love to have you back.
Like you know, let us know whenyou're, uh, when you do the
fucking mothman or, uh, any ofyour other ones.
You know, let us know, bro,we'll have you back for sure I
appreciate y'all for having meon man yeah, anytime.
What?

let everybody know where they can find your
shit all right, so my name isjust bank strinted on everything
.
It's just my, my middle nameand my last name's name.
I've always went by kind ofpost on instagram.
That's more of just personalstuff, but youtube is my main
focus.
You guys want to see some coolinvestigations coming out soon.
I mean, I just got out of highschool.
I got all the time in the worldto be putting time into youtube
now.
So just go to bank strennan,trying harder a little bit, you

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know, getting a team together,got some more equipment, got
some ideas.
Just go there and check it outlove it.

Definitely give them a follow, check it out.
I know I'm gonna and I'm surewe're gonna be seeing a lot more
of your stuff, bro.
I appreciate that man man realquick.

Before we go, I just want to say you
graduated high school this yearI graduated high school like two
weeks ago so did my daughter.
Really, I have an 18 year olddaughter, so it's just, it's a
trip.
It's a trip for me.
So, yeah, I love what you'redoing, brother.
Keep it up, man.
You got the whole fucking.
You got the world by the balls,bro absolutely bro.

I appreciate y'all.

Thanks, drennan, thanks yeah, I was
afraid.
I don't know if I called himbrooks, but I kept thinking.
I was afraid I was gonna callhim brooks due to having brooks
on twice.

I uh didn't know a lot about the young gentleman
.
I know you set this one up.
If anyone out there is tryingto get on the show and talk to
us, just be persistent andpatient.
You got two ADHD spazzesrunning the show who are wearing
a lot of hats at once.
But, that being said, what ayoung gentleman, what a fine

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young gentleman we just talkedto right there.
And uh, the fact that he is soyoung and chooses to explore
mysterious, fucking cool topicslike that instead of, I don't
know, uh, skibbity toilet,fortnight riz or whatever the
fuck, whatever the fuck.
Something someone his age couldbe uh going for.
He's a mature young man andhe's got some balls.
He seems like a good young man.
I mean, he's got his head onstraight.

You know he's well mature young man and
he's got some balls.
He seems like a good young man.
I mean, he's got his head onstraight, you know.
He's well spoken, he seemsintelligent, he seems humble at
18, he's like, you know, he'swilling to tackle obstacles out
there.
And yeah, dude, that's good weneed.
We need that, you know, becauseI'm an old hat, you're.
You're not old yet, but in 10years you will be.

Yeah, I feel old.

Well, your body is because you fucking put
it through a lot of anguish.
But that's what you do.
I could never go.
I mean props to him, I wouldnever.
And I saw the video.

It was fucking scary and, yeah, I could vouch
for him he took off and when hecame back the next morning I
might have seen that actually,I'm gonna do this.
I feel like I have seen some ofhis videos.

His tent wasn't even zipped up, like he
left it open all night like hewas out in a quickness dude.
So, yeah, he's.
Uh, he's got some cool ones andone that wasn't paranormal
related that is a cool video onhis channel is he stays in the
shittiest rated hotel in histown and it's like less than a

(49:22):
one star and dude.
It's freaking gross, as onewould expect.
And uh, the only five starrating that that hotel had was
from a guy that was on the runfrom the police.
He was like it's a right placeto stay to avoid the police.
That's hilarious, so that was apretty cool one, but yeah, you
know what he's thinking out ofthe box, Dude.
I like that.
He's got a couple ideas already.

(49:42):
He's got the Mothman tripplanned.
I think we gave him a couplecool ideas with Bachelor's Grove
and then the Land Between theLakes.

So I think he's gonna be all right.
Dude, definitely have him backon, I think.
Uh, the fact that youtube is inpeople's head too, like well,
look at, I'm just gonna be ayoutuber from a young age,
that's kind of a trip to likeconnecting with someone who came
up in that era, likeimmediately with youtube, like
I'll just be an influencer, I'lljust be youtube from a young
age, like.
That being said, I'm glad Iwasn't making a bunch of youtube
videos when I was littlebecause I'd be laughing too.
Like he said, it was cringelooking back at him, just little

(50:17):
screaming into the camera.
Everybody would have been doingthe same.

Oh, no doubt, no doubt.
But you know, not everybody hasthe persistence and the
willingness to laugh atthemselves and move on from it
and grow, and you know that's.
You know not everybody can dothat.
How many people that startedwhen they were 10 are still
making videos eight years later,you know, like seriously making

(50:41):
so.
so you know that's cool man youknow I like that and like like
you said earlier, if anybodyelse is listening that wants to
reach out to us, that wants tocome out or would like maybe to
have us on, you can do so.
There's a number of ways youcan get a hold of us
conspiracyandchillayahoocom.
You could reach me on Twitterat Sawbuck Mike and see me on
Instagram, and Mr HeadhunterHiggins does not fuck with

(51:02):
Twitter or X, but he is onInstagram under Headhunter
Higgins, believe it or not.
And we also have a joint accountand that is Two Truth Seekers
pretty much on all the differentsocial media platforms.

So I don't know what you're waiting for if you
haven't done all that shit yetyeah, I've got to get that
thousand subscribers on my uhwrestling channel on youtube,
headhunter hagan.

So help me out, help me out fans, help me
out friends, let's go yeah and,as bank said, it's not just
about getting to that thousand,uh subscriber threshold, it's
about having a certain amount ofwatch hours.
Yeah, it shows what I knowwhich.
Well, you know that's kind ofwhen they sneak in there.
They also hit us withcopyrights for certain things

(51:44):
here and there, but you knowwe're not making money on them
anyway, so we don't have tochange anything yet I guess they
got a long way to go.
No, you're almost there, bro.
I didn't want to hit you withno copyrights.
As long as you know, don't haveany certain kind of music I've
gotten copyrighted.

But yeah, some of the fucking matches that I've
had at wrestling wars, themusic that was being played and
that's all, yeah, yeah yeah,that's just, but you know that
could be edited out also youknow, we could always edit the
music out and then upload itseparate.

You know, definitely like subscribe and do
all that good shit as time andI said.
But also, if you want to becomeone of the very first
conspiracy and chill syndicatemembers, you can do so.
Patreon, we have a couple ofdifferent levels there.
If you want to support us butyou don't want to be a member of
the syndicate, you can alsosupport us for as little as
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or not, that shit really helpsand we have been noticing more
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We're trying to grow this thing, take it to the next level and,
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