35 | Bart Sibrel 2 | Joe Rogan, Moon Landing Hoax and Alien Deception | "They Are Faking The Greatest Events In Human History" - Conspiracy and Chill Podcast

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"$awbuck" Mike (00:01):
The Nephilim sightings are going to start
soon.

"Headhunter" Higg (00:04):
Consciousness has been enslaved.

Your consciousness does not need your
physical body to survive.
It's the thing that's necessary.
It has to be there.

Bart Sibrel (00:14):
It's the coding that projects this world we
currently live in.
I want you to read the Bible.
We got reptilians just outsideof our frequency zone.

Six dimensional beings, the ancient builder race
.
Ideas are the highest form ofintelligence, and that leads you
to truth and clarity.
The Nephilim sightings aregoing to stall soon.
Conspiracy show.

It's obvious.
The aliens are god-fearing,insanely huge.
Or just one planet.
They would have needed aminimum of six feet of lead
shielding in order to getthrough the 25,000 mile thick of
nl and radiation belt.
This is real.
They really did fake the moon.

The world is infinitely older than that and I
mean the world with humanbeings in it, skull and bones,
is like one of the villains inthe legion of doom they said
I'll let you read the bible thebiblical flood, the tartaria mud
flood conspiracy and chill thenephilim sightings are going to
start soon.
The bulldog ball?

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:07):
I don't want you to read the bible.
There's magnets in thebasketballs there was a
political party.
A third party called theanti-masonic party.

At a point in uh in the united states, the
global pandemic treatyconspiracy and chill podcast
Conspiracy and Chill Podcast.
I was so thrilled.
The morning I woke up and sawthat you were finally on Rogan.

How was that experience?
Well exhausting.

Yeah, how so.

Well, let me just say I think it's known by many
people that the moon landingsare fake and, rather than
defending the other point ofview, which we've heard for 55
years, we need to talk about whythey were faked and, if these
people are still at large, whatto do about it.
You don't casually talk aboutthe weather if there's a ticking

(02:16):
time bomb under the conferencetable, and so, rather than
pointing out why it might not befake, we've already heard them
claim it was real for 55 years.
I don't think they need equaltime.
We need equal time.
They did fake the moon landing,and to go from being a Gaga,
you know, fan worshiping themoon landings, like I used to,

(02:39):
to wondering if they really wentto, knowing for certain they
did fake it.
That's a very profound event inhuman history, more so than if
they had actually gone.
We have the most powerfulnation on Earth faking what is
considered mankind's greatestaccomplishment and naive people
defending their molestingscoutmaster, and that's kind of

(03:03):
sad, I guess, because it's apositive lie that they, you know
, don't want to give up, unlikewhoever killed Kennedy.
He's still dead.
So this is positive and, asMark Twain said, it's easier to
fool people than to convincethem that they have been fooled.
So science says they did not goto the moon.
Von Braun said they didn't haveenough fuel.

(03:24):
Elon Musk says it's going totake eight fuel trips minimum
maybe more to go to the moon.
Now, from what I understand,light bulbs are brighter, with
less electricity, than they were55 years ago.
So it should take less fuel togo to the moon now with more
efficiency.
So for some reason they canonly go 1,000th the distance to

(03:45):
the moon today with five decadesbetter technology.
So when they had one minute tocompute in-flight with a cell
phone and went on the firstattempt, you see it doesn't add
up.
We have an eyewitness who sawthem filming at Cannon Air Force
Base.
We have footage on the homepageof Sobrellcom of them faking
being halfway to the moon with aone-foot model of the earth and

(04:07):
we have shadows intersecting at90 degrees from objects five
feet apart that they claim is onthe moon, which would be
parallel shadows, which meansit's electrical light, which
means they're on earth, whichmeans they didn't go to the moon
weren't for people you knowglorying in the god of the moon
landing, which you know, oddlyenough, it's named after a Greek

(04:34):
god of deception and they wouldsee the truth.
And it kind of tells yousomething spiritual is going on
about the fallen state ofmankind, that their greatest
accomplishment is a fraud andjust like they said about the
Titanic, the ship that Godhimself couldn't sink, nixon
said putting a man on the moonwas the greatest event since
creation, when he knew theyweren't even there.
So something strange is goingon in our world.

(04:56):
What can you do?
It's better to know you havecancer and deal with it than to
pretend you don't.

Yeah, no doubt I was disappointed too because,
for what you said, I wasdisappointed in the counter
position that he took, the steelman that he took throughout the
whole conversation, because Ipersonally don't believe that he
thinks we really went to themoon and I think a lot of his
listeners really don't think hethinks we really went to the

(05:24):
moon but then to see him finallyhave you sitting across from
him and take the opposingposition, it just kind of blew
my mind.
It's like what is going on here.
You know?

Well, I don't know, I didn't watch his interview
with what's the guy's name?
Well, let's just say, thepeople who think this little
thing for the last three years,robert Malone, the people who
think this little thing for thelast three years, robert malone?
Uh, I don't know if he tookpfizer's side for three hours,
you know, maybe he did, but uh,you know, he's asserting that

(05:56):
there's an intent to harmmillions or billions of people.
So what is that compared tofaking a video image?
Right, you know?
So, yeah, I mean, I don't knowwhat's going on, other than an
NBC news director who saw thefootage I uncovered said it

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conclusively proves we didn't goto the moon and he feared civil
unrest if the public knew thatthey faked the moon landing,
that it would infuriate people,that they would never trust the
federal government again, eventhough it killed fewer people
faking the moon landing thaneven the Kennedy assassination
witness list.
It's different, it's burnedinto people's psyche and, like I

(06:40):
said, it's a positive lie.
They prayed for them, theywaved their flags, they cried,
they put it on coins and stampsin the encyclopedia, they gave
them medals of honor for beingsuch good liars.
I mean, if they find out that'sthe case.
Maybe he's right, maybe it wouldcause civil unrest and maybe

(07:00):
there's a deliberate attempt toprop it up.
I mean, if I went around sayingMickey Mouse was the first
president of the United States,not George Washington, I doubt
if there would be a thousandYouTube videos reassuring people
that it was George Washingtonand debunking all of my proof
that it was Mickey Mouse.
You see, something made out ofstraw needs the support.

(07:23):
If they really went to the moon, why would they care if I said
otherwise?
The fact that I'm pushing theirbuttons proves that I'm right,
because a sword with no pointcauses no injury, right?
So the fact that it's getting areaction out of them means it's
true.

Yeah, I personally don't believe we went
to the moon.
I just think there's too muchevidence and common sense.
I just there's just.
I personally don't believe wewent to the moon.
I just think there's too muchevidence and common sense.
I just there's just.
I don't, like you said, man,technology doesn't get worse and
that's the only thing ever.
They nailed it on the first try.
No, I'm not buying it.
I never have.
I don't see how people can, andI'm pretty sure, tom, you don't
believe that we went to themoon, do you?

no, no way .
And uh, since we last talked,bart, I know you've gotten a lot
of exposure with it too andtalked this whole story for
years, so it's got to feelpretty good to get a lot more
eyes on the story too.
Something I was thinking and Iknow we probably touched on it a
little last time and it mightbe you repeating yourself
telling the story a lot of timesbut the Challenger explosion

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would be the counter PSYOP thenright To get us, or to get the
general public like a negativelie, like oh no, we can't be
trying to go back to the moonnow because look what happened
to the Challenger.
All those people died, thoseyou know, those astronauts,
didn't you see that?
Like how dare you?

Well, I don't know what they're up to.
I think Flat Earth is a PSYOP.
I think the Challenger crewstill being alive is a psyop.
I mean, right after this startsmaking the rounds again because
of the Joe Rogan interview, Iget all these emails Do you
think the Challenger crew isstill alive?
Who cares what differences theymake whether they're alive or
dead?
They're trying to distract youfrom the fact that they faked

(09:00):
the moon landing.
Bill Kaysing writes a book.
We didn't go to the moon.
They say oh, you believe theearth is flat.
I come out with my movie oh,you believe the earth is flat.
I travel halfway around theworld.
I say I'm a filmmaker.
What's your most famous film?
A funny thing happened on theway to the moon.
What's it about the moonlanding fraud?
Oh, you must think the earth isflat.
I say that's a pretty highlysuccessful psyop.

(09:20):
In it they're trying todiscredit people who know the
truth that they did fake themoon landing.
And you know when you realizethat it's a very profound
experience.
I remember popping in the tapethat said don't show to the
public at the head of it, andseeing the special effects shot
of them using a one foot modelto pretend to be halfway to the

(09:40):
moon two days into the flightand I'm like, oh my gosh, they
really did fake the moon landing.
Then everything makes sense.
That's why the shadowsintersect.
That's why, 50 years later,they can only go 1,000th the
distance to the moon.
That's why two of the threepeople don't give interviews.
You know, that's why theshadows intersect.
That's why this, that's whythat, that's why they destroyed

(10:02):
all the hardware, all theblueprints, all the original
videotapes, right, which theywould never do if they really
went, but exactly what theywould do if they did a fraud,
you see.
So you know that's pretty sad.
The most powerful nation onearth faked the greatest
accomplishment of mankind, andtheir own citizens are defending
their own molesters.

(10:23):
You know it's pretty sad.

Yeah, that's something that we, Tom and I,
have touched on before with FlatEarth on this.
We've never really had anepisode dedicated to it, but the
topic has came up from time totime and it's came up that a lot
of Flat Earthers actually useyour work to strengthen their
theory but they fail to say thatyou aren't a flat earther, you

(10:49):
do not believe the earth is flat.
They kind of tie you in there,as you said, and I think kind of
to make to discredit you in away, I believe.

Yeah, I mean the word wicked comes from candle
wick, which looks like it hasone strand.
But if you look at it closelyit's two truth and lies.
So if the government lied allthe time, we just believe the
opposite.
So they sometimes tell thetruth, sometimes lie.
They did fake the moon landing,but the earth is a sphere, you

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know what I mean.
And so they're trying toconfuse people.
And it doesn't even matter ifthe earth is flat.
The earth could be a triangleor a pentagon or a cube.
It has to do with corruptpeople running the federal
government and they are corrupt.
Bill Clinton said 20 times hedidn't have an affair.
He finally got caught.
He says okay, I did.
When they asked him why he didit, he said because I could,

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because I could get away with it.
Why did they kill Kennedy?
Because they could, because Icould get away with it.
Why did they kill Kennedy?
Because they could.
Why did they fake the VietnamWar beginning?
Because they could.
Why did they fake the moonlanding?
Because they could.
And this is dangerous.
You don't just have one childgo missing a month in your
neighborhood for 55 years and go.
Oh well, it's just one of thosethings.
No, you keep talking about itevery day until something is

(12:05):
done about it.
Do people not know that a halfa million children go missing a
year, every year in the UnitedStates of America?
I've never seen that on theevening news.
I've seen the president gettinga new cat on the evening news,
but not half a million childrenmissing, right?
I mean, come on, that'soutrageous.
In 10 years that's 5 millionchildren right.

I mean, come on, that's outrageous.
In 10 years there's 5 millionchildren and the age of
technology and surveillance,where there's a camera
everywhere and everyone has aphone and gps and everything is
tracked.
Of course, that could only behappening then if there's inside
job cover up.
They're not.
They're not trying to speakabout that, they're making it
happen because there's no way,man, that's a insane statistic.
And when you try to bring thatup people, it's just too dark
and they don't want to thinkabout it, so they'd rather.

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No, that's a insane statistic,and when you try to bring that
up, people, it's just too darkand they don't want to think
about it, so they'd rather no,that's not real it's not real.

Yeah it's, it's twisted yeah, I mean who are
supposed to be the mosthonorable, most trusted on earth
, priests and they're the mostaccused of child molestation.
I mean, come on the.
The nation that every immigrantwants to come to is the United
States of America, and yetthey're the ones who are faking
the moon landing and killingtheir own president, faking the

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beginning of a war.
I mean, the dead man's ownrelatives say his uncle was
killed by the CIA.
The defense secretary of theVietnam War said they just made
up the beginning of the VietnamWar.
The alleged attack by NorthVietnamese never happened.
They passed a law starting thewar as if it did happen.

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He says well, it never happened, just made it up.
So these people are never heldaccountable.
They promise I will do thiswhen I'm elected and they don't
do it.
They promise I will not do thiswhen I'm elected and they do it
.
And there's no accountability.
There should be a law that ifyou make a pledge and you don't
do it, you're immediately lastday in office and you go to jail
for 20 years.

(13:53):
Maybe then people would keeptheir promises right.
So I don't know what to say.
This is a sad state of a worldand, as you know, my new book
that I kind of rushed to make itin time for the Rogan interview
is my study of aliens andPlanet X.
And when you have the formerNazi who faked the moon landing,

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von Braun, tell his closestfriend that after the terrorist
threat which we've already hadand after the asteroid threat
which we're about to have,they're going to fake an alien
invasion.
And that's pretty darn seriousand it's interesting if you
think about it.
Let's just say aliens showed up, real or fake, that would be
like the most historic event inhistory to date, right.

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And then what was putting a manon the moon?
The most historic event to date?
And it's amazing.
They're faking the greatestevents in human history.
Isn't that amazing?
I mean, that's pretty good golf.
I think it was Hitler'spropaganda person Goebbels who
said you know, when you tell areally big lie, no one would

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think you had the audacity tolie to such a degree, which
helps people believe it all themore you know.
It's interesting psychology,but I guess that's true, right?
I hear from people you know,know the moon landings must be
real because they wouldn't lieabout such an important thing
yeah I mean, they already killedtheir president, they already
faked the beginning of a warthat led to the death of 58 220
of their own soldiers withoutreason.
So I don't think they're gonnahave a problem faking a video

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image sometimes I don't thinkthat's too sacred for them.

Any big event or tragedy, or especially
something leading to a war, notbeing set up by something fake
would be like the outlier atthis point, with all the
examples.

Yeah, I know, every time I hear a conspiracy theory
.
I remember I heard aboutchemtrails.
I'm rolling my eyes, oh, notanother one.
And then I went through aperiod of six months or more
where I woke up about an hourbefore sunrise don't live
anywhere near the airport.
I got to my front balcony andthere's a grid in the sky every
morning, except two days out ofthe year I guess Christmas and

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Easter or something and I keepan eye on them and they widen
and widen and widen and fill inthe gaps and become this blanket
cloud.
And then I'm thinking that'skind of weird, you know.
And that ended up being true, Imean, who knows?
Then you hear the Titanic wassunk intentionally.
And I'm rolling my eyes on.
Here we go again.
And then you find out, whileevery person against the Federal

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Reserve was on board, they hadjust a number of ships for the
women only, and that was in theday of chivalry, where men would
give their seat to women.
That's pretty convenient, youknow.
And really you know, if someonewas given I mean, I don't know
how much that cost in today'sdollars, but these are
trillionaires and to assassinate, I mean let's just say they did

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it for that I don't know, toassassinate all those people in
one fell swoop, for you know, abillion dollars is probably a
pretty good deal, you know right.
So what can you do?
I don't know.
The thing about the alieninvasion is similar in that to
the moon landing fraud.
It's done by this, you know,the same person is blowing the

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whistle on it and it hasspiritual implications, as you
know.
From the homepage of SobrellecomI show a funny thing happened
on the way to the moon whichbegins with the Tower of Babel.
Jesus said when you start tobuild something and you never
finish it, it's a proclamationthat you're a fool.
And so the fact that the Towerof Babel was never finished is

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kind of a rebuke.
And the fact that they put inprint the ship that God himself
cannot sink, about the Titanicand that it sunk, is a rebuke.
And this rebuke about the moonlanding fraud hasn't come out
yet.
It's not officially known, it'snot part of the record yet, but
it might be.
And then, if my book, you know,supposes that maybe aliens are

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really fallen angels who areliars they can make up, they're
from some galaxy far, far away.
You can never prove or disproveit, right.
And if that's the case.
And then you see the WorldEconomic Forum logo has three
sixes in it, which isn anaccident.
I mean, these people literallyworship Lucifer and Lucifer is a

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fallen angel.
Then there's the ancient alienshow that says we were made by
aliens, which is really Lucifer,which is, they're saying,
lucifer made Mankind and justlike, becomes all the more crazy
and yet real and it's's likewhat can you do?
We live in a world that's crazy, crazy, loss 100%.

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Yeah.

So buckle up and repent while there's
still time You're under theimpression that there are.
You know they're going topresent alien beings to us, but
they're just going to be demonicentities or fallen angels.
Right yeah, it's just going tobe all fake, because I feel
like're just going to be demonicentities or fallen angels,
right, yeah, I mean it's goingto be all fake, because I feel
like there's going to be, youknow, they're going to try to
reveal some sort of hey, these,these are our brothers, or

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they're going to save us,they're going to help us and
teach us?

yeah, I think there could be something like that.
Actually, tom that you know,there was that twilight zone
episode to serve man and theywere tall.

Great episode.

And they came, you know, to quote, help us.
But that was, you know, adisguise.
And there was a student who didthe, I guess, genealogical
study of all the presidents ofthe United States and she found
out, going through half amillion names, that all the
presidents except one at thatpoint of the study were of the

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same bloodline.
So Moon man is interactive, asyou probably know.
It has 17 video links that youcan see at Sobrellecom.
I write a chapter and it's likewell, then, watch this link and
then you'll know what I'm aboutto talk about.
The Alien book, aliens fromPlanet X, which just came out.

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I read it in audio and then, ofcourse, kindle in print.
It has 29 links and one of themis of this girl's study from
her high school project.
And then, when you combine thatwith Genesis, I think 315, god
speaking to Lucifer telling himthat, because he tempted mankind
into sin, that there would bewar between the seed of Lucifer,

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which always means futureoffspring, the seed of Abraham,
and the seed of Adam.
So it says, right, therethere's two bloodlines.
And then Genesis 6 says angelsintermarried with humans and
created a deformity called theNephilim, which were tall People
who have angel visions even ofgood angels, say they're tall

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and apparently that's theirbloodline.
And maybe the world leaders areof that Luciferian bloodline
and have throughout thegenerations weeded out the
height this year.
Or maybe they're half-bred.
It's interesting during people'salleged alien abductions that
note that their sperm and eggsare being harvested.

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Well, in Leviticus 19.19, itsays don't make GMOs, don't
crossbreed species, don't takean unclean eel and put it into
salmon and call it clean.
And so when you do that, whenyou break the command of God,
when you take, let's say, ahorse and a donkey to make a

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mule, the mule is sterile.
And what a surprise.
Since they've introduced GMOsinto the food supply, fertility
rates have dropped by 65%,two-thirds.
So if this is true, that meanswhen you take an angel and a
human and get a Nephilim, theNephilim is sterile.

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That's why they're harvestingsperm and eggs during their
quote, alien abduction.
So I suppose if these fallenangels have been around for
thousands of years, they would.
I mean, just imagine if we didgo to the moon in 1969, imagine
the technology we'd have athousand years after that.
Quite significant right.

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So maybe these UFOs are realthat come out of the ocean.
But according to the top two UFOresearchers, one American, one
French.
They said UFOs are indeed real,but they're not from outer
space, they're from Earth andthey think they're demonic.
Why is it, during an alienabduction, when someone evokes

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the name of Jesus, the aliensrun away.
Why would Buddha, muhammad,bart, tom, mike matter to them?
Right, if they're aliens fromanother world, right?
And so the latest intellectualswant to believe we were made by
aliens because DNA has proventhat all humans came from one

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woman and no one before her.
She suddenly appeared.
So they.
That's just like the bible says.
So they came up with this.
You know ancient aliens?
They never ask.
Well, if we were made by aliens, who made the aliens?
Right?
And it says in, I guess, isaiah14 that lucifer wanted to
become god.
So if we're, if we're made byaliens and aliens are Luciferian

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, then they're saying mankindwas made by Lucifer.
It's really remarkable.
And these world economic forumpeople never say there's no God,
never say there's no Lucifer.
They just say don't followJesus and don't obey the Bible,
right?
So who are they following?

then we know who.

Yeah, they're pretty smart so they're not
following something imaginary,right?
So you know, I remember walkingout of the Truman Show 30 years
ago whenever it was saying thisis the dumbest plot I've ever
seen, not possible, ridiculous.
And now I watch the film once ayear and cry every time.

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But if someone told me, youknow, there's a script where the
nation that all immigrants wantto come to that's, you know,
considered to be the greatestkills their own president,
starts wars with made-up reasons, fakes the greatest
accomplishment of mankind, youknow I'd say, pass, give me
something realistic.

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And now we have to add to theyou know ridiculousness and hard
to believe-ness that theyliterally worship lucifer.
And one of the links atsabrellcom you can see all 29
links to aliens from planet xright now for free is the world
economic forum logo.
I mean that's a billiontrillion dollar organization and

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there's three O's, one in world, one in economic, one in forum,
and this half circle goingthrough all the three O's kind
of offset so that it forms threesixes.
Google is three sixes.
Cern, trying to get down to theGod particle open another
dimension maybe where the demonsare, has three sixes.

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So it sounds crazy the worldleaders worshiping the devil,
but apparently they do, and itsounds crazy that there are two
bloodlines, literally onesatanic and one you know from
humanity, from God, but it saysso in Genesis 3.15.

And.

Genesis 6 says the sons of God, which is angels,
intermarried with the daughtersof men and created a race of
deformed giants.
That's what it says, and so beit.
Is that any harder to believethan angels exist or God exists,
or that anything exists right?

No, it's spot on.
It's told in a lot of differentways whether people want to go,
oh, reptilians or aliens ordemons, this that I think you
eventually do reach theconclusion that, oh yeah, it's
run by satanic elite and, likeyou said, they're smart, they
know what they're doing, they'renot going to put a bunch of
power into nothing and thatmeans the alternative is

(25:50):
definitely true and the name ofjesus, kind of ending
extraterrestrial encounters, youdo realize, oh man, like a lot
of uh, a lot of the stuff thatthey try to skew us away from us
, is that one percent?
Like they could tell us it'saliens, they could tell us it's
beings from another planet,interdimensionals.

Anything except what, uh, makes the most sense
demons and angels and I I bringin planet x into the new book
and it's called aliens fromplanet x, because I've also
studied what rogue planets arefor a couple of decades and
statistically there's two toeight rogue planets for every
solar system.

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So our solar system has atleast two rogue planets that may
have been captured as they wentby and formed an elliptical
orbit, and I talk about this inthe book.
Prior to 705 BC, the Earth'syear was 360 days.
Every calendar had a 360-dayyear the Hebrews, the Mayans,

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the Chinese and then, after 705,something happened.
They changed it to 365 and aquarter days, I believe, because
planet X came by the earth,pulled it slightly further away
from the sun, causing theincrease in days.
But prior to that, that meansthat the earth's year had 12

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months, 12 tribes of Israel, andeach month was exactly 30 days.
So how could you argue againstdivine creation?
You couldn't.
You would have to say some muchhigher power made months
exactly 30 days in 12 of them.
It can't happen by chance.
So the rogue planet, which Ibelieve symbolically represents

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the devil, the rebel, the rogueyou see, rogue angel destroyed
the testimony of divine creation.
And there's a powerfultelescope, the most powerful in
the world run by the Jesuits,and it's called the Lucifer
Telescope.

Can't make it up.

And one of their members on his deathbed said
they're tracking an object thatwill play a significant part in
end time events.
I think they're tracking planetLucifer, planet X.
Now, I believe it's a deadworld.
They're tracking planet Lucifer, planet X Now, I believe it's a
dead world.
However, just like a magician,will you know, put your hand his
hand here while he's doingsomething behind his back.
If planet X shows up and thatthey choose that timing to

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reveal the quote aliens, whichhave been here all along, they
can claim why and say well, theycame from this planet passing
by, you see, and that's whenthey visit Earth.
Whenever it comes by, that'stheir spaceship, which I believe
is not true.
And additionally, it couldcause catastrophic events,

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meteor storms.
I know from a military sourcethey can fake an asteroid strike
.
Remember the next thing thatvon braun said they're going to
have an asteroid threat.
There's some real ones, andthey can fake them as well.
So you mentioned, tom, that theymight, you know, the aliens,
fallen angels, might appear tobe our saviors by rescuing us.

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They might rescue us from acomet, asteroid, rogue planet,
something like that, and claimyou know, that's proof that
they're, you know, benevolent,but just like in the Twilight
Zone episode.
They had an appearance of beingbenevolent, but that wasn't the
case at all.
That's part of their deception.
Just like every child molesterappears to be friendly right to

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kids and every person who robs abank appears to be a customer
right, the world is run bywicked people.
That's never not been the casein the history of mankind.
There's never been a time whenworld leaders had the people's
best interest in mind.
Never More genocide hashappened in the last hundred
years than the 6,000 yearsbefore it combined.

Have you ever gotten into Tartaria?

I don't know what that is.

No, I've never heard of that.
That there was like a.
It's largely based around likearchitecture and thinking that
there was a sort of a globalempire at a point, or like a
high society.
Whether it was like free energyyou can maybe call it Atlantis
or something like that but theycall it, like the mud flood or
something, that there was somesort of cataclysm more recently,

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that there may have been ahigher society.
Whether it was like spirituallyadvanced Some people even
speculate it was a veryChristian kingdom or it was a
even like the reign of Jesus onEarth.
That they deceived us with thetimeline too, earth, that they
deceived us with the timelinetoo.
That's something I think you'dbe really interested in too,
because it basically talks aboutnot just faking events but

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faking the whole timeline ofhistory and maybe even covering
up, uh, jesus's reign on earth.
That's in the bible too, like athousand year reign.
But yeah, that's a a wholeother theory.

I was just wondering if you got into that
at all yeah, I mean, I wouldthink the thousand year reign is
in the future, definitely.
However, that doesn't meanthey're not lying to us about
dinosaurs or what the Egyptianscould do.
There's a famous architecturalfind called the Baghdad Battery,
and it's so fragile theyx-rayed it because they were

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afraid it would disintegrate ifthey took it apart and it looks
pretty much like a big carbattery and it's thousands of
years old.
Then there's the hieroglyphicsthat really do look like light
bulbs and helicopters.
I mean, what's that about?
And so, who knows, there couldhave been some advanced
civilization in the past.
The book of Enoch, which ispotentially a scriptural book

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because it was in the Bible inJesus's day, says that the
wicked fallen angels taughtmankind certain technology,
including some ungodly thingsweapons, of war, makeup,
pharmacology All that was taughtby fallen angels to mankind and
one of the reasons that God'swrath is against them.

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Apparently, enoch went to themon their behalf, to God, and
asked you know, if they repent,will they be forgiven and not be
destroyed?
And God said no, and Jesusprayed.
He said blessed are you who arehere with me, who believe, but

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more blessed are the people whonever see me in future
generations, who believe throughthe word.
And so God, I believe, chose tobe invisible, because life is
simply a test of faith.
That's why the Bible says ifyou really love God, you'll obey
the commandments.

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And you know, raiders of theLost Ark 3,.
He figured out the first one,to step on the stones.
That spelled out.
Jehovah figured out the secondone, to duck.
So the blade didn't come offhis head, but the leap of faith
he couldn't figure out and hehad to simply step off.
And that's why, in a way, we'resaved by faith.

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People who hold on to theirlife will lose it, and people
who lose it for what is rightwill live forever.
And whoever you know faked themoon landings, doing these
little things that they're doingthat are corrupt, they will
gain the world, but they'll losetheir soul and I feel sorry for

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them.

For that being the case, I can't wait to dig
into your new book, so that'sgoing to be a new fun project
for me here coming up.
I don't know if I've ever heardyou or your opinion on if there
is any or what the moon is.
A lot of people think it mightbe an artificial hollow
satellite where some of thesebeings may reside.

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A lot of people say, like a lotof remote viewers have said,
that on the dark side of themoon there's life there.
I was just wondering what youropinion or what your studies
have led you to believe.

I wouldn't trust any remote viewer.
I think they're remote viewingsatanic entities that are
claiming aliens.
I think the moon is solid andit doesn't matter.
You know, I think a lot ofthese are distractions to get
people to believe in aliens.
The last time I was in a hotel,I think to do an interview in

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San Francisco, flipping throughthe free HBO movies, and three
of the ten were about aliensfrom outer space, you know.
So if three of the ten movieswere about how great the
president is, or three of theten were about how terrible the
president is, you could seethere's an effort to control
what we believe.
They want us to believe inaliens and that's why they're

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not real.
I mean the number one proof ofStephen Greer, the guy who goes
around saying aliens are real.
Aliens are real.
I'm going to give him thebenefit of the doubt and say
he's sincere but sincerely wrong, just like all the scientists
who believe we went to the moon.
They're sincere but sincerelywrong.
And he says it's number oneproof that aliens are real, as

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the apollo astronauts toldhimself.
You see, and that's anindication right there that
they're not real.
First of all, the guy thinksthe moon landings are real.
So if he can't discern thetruth from that and believes the
exact opposite.
I say he believes the exactopposite about aliens because
the source is the same personthe blind Apollo astronauts.

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One of the people on the listat Cannon Air Force Base that I
got from the chief of securitywho I witnessed when filmed the
fake moon landing there in 1968was a guy by the name of Robert
Ammenager who worked for theDeep State, who went around his
whole life saying the moonlandings are real and so are
aliens.
He produced a show with RodSerling promoting the idea that

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aliens are real.
They want us to believe that.
They want us to believe life iseverywhere.
Well, one of the clips ofSobrellcom I think it's the
first of 29 clips of this bookis a radio telescope scientist
saying look, we've pointed radiotelescopes in every direction
of the universe for 50 years.
Not a single radio signal.

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He says we're it, we're it.
And the Bible seems to indicatethat as well.
It says in Revelation 21.3 thatwhen the new heaven and new
earth is made, where sin willnever happen again, that God
will personally dwell withmankind.
Well, it says about four timesin the Bible that God shows no

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partiality.
So if there are other worldsand intelligent beings there,
but he chooses to live with usand not them, then he's shown
partiality.
Intelligent beings there, buthe chooses to live with us and
not them, then he's shownpartiality.
The only way he can live withus and not show partiality is if
we're it, and that's actuallywhat science indicates.
If there's intelligent life,I'm sure they've invented
walkie-talkies and radios and tvand so just like we have, but

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there's not a single signalafter 50 years coming from
anywhere in the universe,because there's no one there.
And what a surprise.
The government wants us tobelieve the exact opposite, I
mean at any given time.
I mean I haven't been to amovie theater in a long time,
but you know how they have thoseposters out front.
I bet you could go.

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You know, pick the first day ofthe month for the next 12
months.
I bet one of those 25 filmswill be about aliens for the
entire year.
So there's always this alienstuff out there.
They want us to believe in it,which is further proof it's not
true.
They want us to believe life iseverywhere, and the exact

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opposite is true us to believelife is everywhere, and the
exact opposite is true.
There are scientists who did astudy to have the, you know, the
earth in the right place in thesoul system, right place in the
galaxy, and the dna and theatom have.
All that line up would be likewinning the powerball lottery 20
times in a row.
It's just not going to happen.
He says life is not abundant,it shouldn't even be on Earth,

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it has to be by divine creation.
And he concludes what thescientists did, who had no
belief in God, we're it.
And so the lying governmentwants us to believe the exact
opposite.
And apparently they're settingus up for alien disclosure, you
know, and they can releasemorsels to alternative media,

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people.
You know military source setand UFO footage.
You know this, that and theother, and we can be deceived as
well.
And according to the top twoUFO researchers, ufos are real
but they're just not from outerspace.
They've been here all along,and what better place to hide
than in the ocean right and tobuild a vehicle that can go

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underwater and above air?
And if they've been around for6,000 years, maybe they're
anti-gravity.
It doesn't mean they're fromouter space.
That's an assumption.

So, bart, the other day I'm watching I think
I'm watching on Amazon Prime,and a commercial comes up.
And when did you know?
There's a new movie coming outstarring channing tatum, and
it's called fly me to the moon.
And it's all about what if thegovernment faked the moon
landings and I was.

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I'm like this.
This, you can't make this up.
I mean this, this is reallyhappening.
They're really coming out withthis movie well, but are they
really saying that?

Well, I think there's not much about the movie
.
Well, all I'm saying is, mysuspicion is the following Right
, okay.
From the trailer.
The person says we're filming afake moon landing as a backup.
Right, because in November thesmartest in the world, google's
neural network multiple aishooked together after decades of

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research, billions of dollarshas a deep fake detector program
.
And it said the pictures fromthe chinese probes on the
surface of the moon are real andthe apollo pictures from the
nixon administration are fakeevery single one of them.
So other computers are showingthat they can analyze fake
background shadows intersectingand the Apollo pictures from the
Nixon administration are fake,every single one of them.
So other computers are showingthat they can analyze fake

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backgrounds, shadowsintersecting when they should be
parallel in sunlight.
So what do they do now?
They don't want to admit themoon landings are fake.
So my suspicion is the filmmight actually say okay, we
filmed it as a backup, but wereally went and somehow the fake
footage got mixed in and that'swhy the pictures are fake.
Well, first of all, if you'rereally going to the moon, you
would never fake any of it,because then you could be

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accused of faking the wholething.
And they don't really care iffootage was destroyed, because
during the alleged landing wehear live audio from Neil
Armstrong 50 feet up, 20 feet up.
Here we are, but why not video?
I mean, they're both radiosignals, so if you can send one
you can send the other.

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You know, if they were reallythere, there would have been a
camera mounted on the side ofthe lunar module.
There would have been a cameraon the side of the rocket.
For the entire voyage to themoon you could turn on your TV
24-7 and get that moon gettingbigger and bigger, bigger, all
the way down to landing, withouta single edit.
When, in fact, during thealleged landing, they showed an
Atari type of spacecraft landing, it said simulation on the

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screen and all we heard wasaudio.
The next thing, you know, a TVpicture pops open and there's a
lunar module which we know wasfilmed at Cannon Air Force Base.
So I have this suspicion thatthey're trying to explain why
the pictures are fake, buttrying to reassure people that
they went anyway.
We'll see if that's what thecase is.

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We'll know in a couple of weeks.

It's exactly where I was kind of thinking
they were going to go to,because, yeah, like you said,
they kind of in the shorttrailer they say that uh,
they're kind of filming it as abackup.
So I think you're exactly right, I think you nailed it.
Uh.
I wanted to bring it back,though.
You mentioned a couple timesthat the two most famous ufo
researchers and of course I knowthe one- is jacques valet.

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Who is the american that youthink that you're talking?

alan hy Alan Hynek.

Oh, hynek, okay, All right.

Yeah, I should have known.
And you know they're doingtheir research independently and
in different countries anddifferent places and they've
done, I guess, about fourdecades of research each.
And when they bothindependently come to the same
conclusion, I say they're theexperts right, they said number
one, UFOs are real.
Number two they're the expertsright, they said number one,

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UFOs are real.
Number two, they're not fromouter space, they're from earth.
And number three, they'redemonic.
Then everything falls intoplace the two bloodlines from
Genesis 3.15, the fallen angelscreating the Nephilim.
They become sterile, just likebreeding two animals together
the offspring is sterile andthen that explains the bloodline

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that this person discovered.
Of all the presidents except one, Vote for a Nephilim Republican
or Nephilim Democrat, we getyou either way.
I mean, just ask Bernie Sandersor Ron Paul if they can get a
fair shake.
They can't.
Bernie Sanders got twice thevotes, as Clinton did,
continually, continually, andyet he got half as many
delegates.
Well, those are just our rules,isn't that illegal?

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I mean, you're using taxdollars for the primary voting
machines and the voting staff ormetro workers of those counties
.
How can that be legal?
It's not, and neither is thegovernment selling technology or
giving it to China thatCongress forbids, so they won't
blow the whistle on the moonlanding fraud, which is a source
that the Chinese Space Agencytold me.

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They're blackmailing NASA inexchange for not exposing the
moon landing fraud, whichapparently they have pictures of
from their own probes.
You know, China has their ownintelligence division and just
because they say they landed aprobe over here doesn't mean
they also landed one over hereTaking pictures of the empty,
you know, Apollo 11 landing site, Apollo 12 landing site, Apollo

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14 landing site, and they'reall turning up empty.
You see the coordinates thatthey can prove.
You see, so they'reblackmailing us and that's
another good reason for thetruth to come out, another good
reason for it to be known.
Now, whether it will come out, Idon't know.
I think spiritually.

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You know, from a spiritualpoint of view, it might.
The Tower of Babel rebuke wasknown, the Titanic rebuke was
known.
This is not known yet.
I have a spiritual sensationthat it might come out.
However, what they might dofrom a secular point of view, as
they've delayed returning tothe moon 10 times so far,

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they'll just keep postponing it,postponing it, postponing it
until Earth is hit by a comet orasteroid or rogue planet, at
which point there won't be anyelectricity, clean drinking
water and no one will care whoshot Kennedy or if the moon
landing is real or not at thatpoint.

That's probably their plan.
I never put it together whatyou did earlier about the
abductees, how they claim thatsperm and samples of their
ovaries are taken and howNephilim wouldn't be able to
reproduce.
I think that's a reallyingenious connection that you
made and I was wondering haveyou ever looked into cattle

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mutilations?
Because oftentimes theirreproductive organs are taken
too, and I was wondering if youthink maybe there can be a
connection with that.

Well, some of that might be done by the government
to make it look like aliens arereal.
Remember, they want us tobelieve in aliens.
They faked the moon rocks toconvince us they were on the
moon.
They could have an undercoverCIA agent infiltrate farmers in
Maine and they can import dirtfrom Maine and put it under the
city Boise agent's fingernailsto make it look like he's a real

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farmer.
They did fake moon rockssomehow, either by lunar
meteorites collected inAntarctica, which von Braun was
seen doing, or a ceramicsfactory, and one of them got
proven to be fake.
As you know, neil Armstrongpicked up a rock that he said he
personally put in his pocketfrom the moon service,
personally gave it to the primeminister of the Netherlands and

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they opened it up 30 years laterand it was a piece of petrified
wood.
So unless trees are growing onthe moon, then they picked
something that kind of looks oddthat you know they figured
would never be opened, and so Iwouldn't trust these cattle
mutilation things.
They could be a psyop toconvince people about aliens.

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They could.
I mean, if spacecraft couldtravel hundreds of light-years
right now I'm sure they have theability to be optically
invisible.
Right, the military has thatability today, so I'm sure a
spacecraft could be invisibleand an alien would never be seen
.
So why are UFOs seen all thetime?
Because they want to be seen.

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Yeah, it's true, a UFO or anaircraft can't go from 50,000
feet to five feet above theground in one second, but a
video projection sure could.
So maybe that's what it is.
I suspect that's what it is.
I've been a filmmaker for 40years, looking at images on
monitors thousands and thousandsof hours, and a lot of that

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alleged UFO footage looks faketo me that people want to
believe.
People wanted to believe thatmen are on the moon, right?
A scientist told me, even ifNeil Armstrong confessed it was
fake, he'd still think he walkedon the moon anyway.
And people want to believe inthe League of Planets and Star
Trek because it's fascinatingand interesting, and so whenever

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they see footage it must bereal.
A lot of it looks fake to meand they could be invisible if
they wanted to.
So if they're being seen,that's because they want to be
seen, which means they want youto believe in them, which means
it's a saya.

That's what it means a lot of it looks
super fake, comically fake.
You know, when I was a big ufonut too, I'd be like, oh that's
amazing did you see that?
like, yeah, it's.
It's a bit of a self-hypnosisthe, the?
U.
It's like they wanted to stirup that conspiracy.
Now all the conspiracytheorists that are hip to it are
like, nope, they're tricking us.
Ufos are demons.

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Now we don't want to believewhat they're telling us about
UFOs.
After all this time they triedto trap people.
You think they faked Roswellthen too.

Not necessarily.
It's possible.
It's possible that that youknow, zoom in on the guy's, you
know pocket of the letter couldhave been contrived.
It's possible and they might bethat clever.
It's my suspicion that if thesefallen angels have been around
for thousands of years, to thepoint of building zero gravity

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aircraft, that can also be asubmarine, which I would guess
with 6,000 years of trial anderror you could do and if
they're harvesting sperm andeggs to make test tube Nephilim,
right, and breeding out theheight so that our world leaders
might be literally Nephilimprotecting a bloodline, might be

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literally Nephilim protecting abloodline, then I think they
could probably create biologicalworker beasts.
So Nephilim are tall, but thegray men are short and frail
looking, which means if theyrebel they're easy to deal with.
Right, you're big, they'resmall, you're strong, they're
thin and anemic looking, right.
So I suspect the little gray menare the worker bees of the

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fallen angels.
They're biological machinesthat are bred, contrived, in
such a way to follow orders, tobe compassionless.
Right, they're dissectingpeople's sperm and eggs from
humans, screaming.
Right, they don't seem to care.
Maybe that could be bred in aswell.

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They can do this with foxes.
They have two groups of foxes,one that will snap at you, you
know, and just act like they'rerabid.
Another that'll come and, youknow, want to cuddle with you,
and they've figured out how toalter that behavior genetically.
And you don't want to cuddlewith you, and they figured out
how to alter that behaviorgenetically and breed one form
of behavior in another.
So maybe Roswald was one oftheir crafts crashing.

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I mean, they are mechanical.
Even if they're zero gravity,which means they're not
infallible, they can crash.
So maybe the little great menin Roswald was true and those
were the worker bees of thefallen angels.
And oops, they got discovered.
And that's also advantageousfor the lie of that.

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They're from outer space, youknow.
They could have evenintentionally crashed the thing
and let it be discovered andthen show up.
There's that story of Eisenhowermeeting with, you know, aliens
at Edwards Everest Base.
Maybe that happened, maybethey're being lied to.
They are liars, right?
People who meet say they metwith aliens, say they lie all

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the time and so they're notgoing to say they're fallen
angels.
They're not going to say weworship Lucifer.
That would freak everybody out.
They have this technology thatwe don't have.
They can claim it comes from300 light years away.
How can we prove or disprove itright?
So I believe they'repotentially lying to government
leaders and claiming to beextraterrestrial and we'll give

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you the technology in exchangefor letting us abduct half a
million children in here.
Who knows what's going on?

Probably something pretty close to that.

Yeah, so these people are ruthless.
They run the world.
But you know, it's interestingthat liars can believe a lie.
The Bible says in the last days, people will be deceived and
deceive themselves.
Right, there's that scientistwho says, even if Neil Armstrong

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confesses that the moonmissions are fake, he'd still
think they were real anyway.
You know, and people whoworship Lucifer Lucifer may have
told them he can grant themeternal life.
Don't worry about it, I got itall worked out and they're
believing a lie.
Lucifer will eat his second incommand to live one second
longer.

I'm surprised they don't know that
wow, yeah amazing I'm sure youknow about the lucius trust.
That's like a organizationbehind the, I think the united
nations or or the uh worldeconomic forum, the lucius trust
and it's all about, likethey're saying it's metaphorical
but the whole basis of theirorganization is around lucifer

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and the light bringer andspreading the light to the world
and stuff.
And that's who's behind theunited nations or behind uh some
like big globalist foundation.
It's crazy.
They're not hiding it at allyeah, the lucifer telescope.

It was, like you know, congressional law,
something like 06-06-06.
That had to do with, you know,biological identification under
the skin.
There's a world patent alongthe lines of 666 that does the
same thing.
There's 666 on barcodes.
Revelation 13 says theAntichrist forced.

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Everyone being forced isdifferent.
This medicine that they've beenpromoting and the illness you
don't even have.
Many people, includingalternative media people I've
done interviews with, say well,I was forced to take it.
That's not true.
You're deceiving yourself.
No one was forced, unlessyou're held down, kicking and
screaming and injected with themedicine that's being forced.

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You traded permission to travelfor getting the shot or
permission to keep your job forgetting the shot.
No one was forced to do it.
And so the Bible says inRevelation 13 that people are
forced to buy and sell with themark of the beast.

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So in the book of Daniel,everyone bowed down to the
statue of gold.
Second commandment don't bowdown to man-made statues.
So if some strong man pushes myshoulders down to the ground
and I kneel, am I willfullyworshiping the idol?
No, I don't think God will holdme against that.
Am I willfully worshiping theidol?
No, I don't think God will holdme against that.
So it says he forced everyone,rich and poor, slave and free,

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that they could not buy or sellwithout the mark of the beast.
Well, it's a fact that everybarcode starts with a longer
number that's not numbered, andthen there's a longer number in
the middle that's not numbered,and there's a longer number at
the end that's not numbered, andthere's a longer number at the
end that's not numbered, andthey're the same.
And if you can find a sixsomewhere in the barcode and
look above it and slightly tothe left, that's the six.

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So every barcode starts with asix, has a six in the middle and
ends with a six.
He forced everyone, small andgreat, rich or poor, that they
cannot buy or sell without 666on it, and that's been going on
for about 40 years.
Try to buy a can of soup, oreven now produce comes out with

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a barcode or a Bible, it'll havea barcode on it.
We don't have a choice right,we're forced to do that.
You could say we can't buy acan of soup without a barcode on
it, you know.
So I don't think God's going tohold us against that.
However, it's a fulfillment ofprophecy.
To the lector I would saythat's pretty remarkable and

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there may be more than one markof the beast.
You know people.
I remember meeting a guy atchurch who says you know, I
wrote a book about revelationand this is absolutely what it
means.
That's how I knew not to readthe book and not to trust her.
You know there are people whosay it all happened before AD 70
.
There's a people who say it'sgoing to happen at the end.
There's a people who say it'sall symbolic.

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There's a people say it's allliteral and I say what if it's
all of those?
What if it all happened before70 AD for that generation?
And it will all happen againfor the last generation?
What if it's both literal andsymbolic?
You see, the church that changedto Sabbath right, go to

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SabbathTruthcom.
The first, second and thirdcentury church kept Saturday.
Look at any calendar.
Sunday is all the way to theleft, saturday is all the way to
the right.
It's the seventh day.
It's Saturday.
The commandment in, I guess,exodus 20 says remember because

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people will forget.
And around 363 AD, some church,powerful, most powerful church
on earth, changed the Sabbathfrom Saturday to Sunday.
They said that's our mark ofownership.
You can call yourself Baptistor Lutheran, but if you worship

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on Sunday, you have our mark onyou.
Maybe another mark of the beastis Sunday.
You see, that's a possibility.
It could be multifaceted like adiamond with the mark of the
beast.
Is the barcode the wrongSabbath?
It could be.
You know, you're a palm printhaving to buy or sell something

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in the future.
Who knows?
And maybe it's symbolic the twowitnesses right, the Old
Testament and the New Testament,and maybe it's literal.
Maybe there will be twoprophets who were killed and
their bodies are out there forfour days.
You know, and come back, right,the old testament and the new
testament, and maybe it'sliteral.
Maybe there will be twoprophets who were killed and
their bodies are out there forfour days.
You know, and come back to life.
Who knows?
Right, lucifer will fakemiracles, it says, and god will

(57:07):
probably present real miracles.
This is why reading your bibleis so important.
I don't think god abandoned.
I mean it'd be kind of cruel.
I give my kids the game ofMonopoly and I take the rules
out.
They figure it out.
How can you never figure it out?
How would you know?
I'm not going to be cruel.
I'm going to give them therules and God's going to give us

(57:29):
the rules and it's very simple.
Jesus said love God with allyour heart.
And the Bible says loving Godis obeying his commandments,
it's his world right.
And love your neighbor asyourself.
Do not kill, do not commitadultery, do not lie.
All that's loving your neighbor, you know, and obeying the
commandments, one of which isthe Sabbath, you know.
Do not murder still valid.

(57:50):
Do not commit adultery stillvalid, I think.
Would nine of the ten be validor ten of the ten?
I bet ten of the ten are stillvalid.
Right, god never changes.
Right.
He's the same yesterday, today,tomorrow.
So these are discoveries I'mmaking as I go along.
I used to think the moonlandings are real.
I used to worship on Sunday.
I used to go to that church.

(58:12):
That changed the Sabbath.
I used to do a lot of things.
I used to sleep around, I usedto drink a lot.
That's what repentance is.
We can't be saved by ourrepentance, but we also can't be
saved without it.
Otherwise everyone would besaved.
We have to prove we love God byletting go of the world, no
doubt.

I really think you should look into the
Tartaria Bar.
I think you would do great workon it, digging into it too,
because a lot of what you saidtoo and what we've discussed
with some guests about themillennial reign is that they
tricked us completely.
Because I believe it says tooafter a certain point in
Revelation that Jesus will reignon earth literally as for a

(58:54):
thousand years.
Some people think it'smetaphorical or maybe literal,
but they think that maybe youknow, the 70 AD thing happened.
Jesus came back right awaybecause it was talking to those
people at that time, had thethousand years and then, as the
thousand years is up, it sayswhat the devil is free to reign
on earth for a little bit beforeJesus comes back again to.

(59:15):
You know, reclaim people aftera short season is what they call
it, the little season where thedevil is allowed to reign.
And it seems like we might bein that little season because we
are run by wicked, wickedpeople like we've gone over a
whole bunch and everyone in ourcommunity knows that we may, uh
very well may, be living in theafter that that couldial reign,

(59:36):
that could be a deception,though it's an interesting
thought.

Could they deceive us about the timeline of history
?
And they certainly could.
But the Bible says that one ofthe signs of the end times is
the gospel will be preached toevery nation and then the end
will come.
And at that point the gospelhad not been preached to every
nation.
So this is why you can bedeceived.

(01:00:01):
Jesus said let no one deceiveyou.
Right, because there were manypeople who claimed the end is
here.
The Messiah is out in thedesert, messiah is in the inner
sanctuary.
He says it will be visible toall, it will be be undeniable.
And so the thousand-year reignputs it into the dark ages,
where a certain church waskilling people for keeping the

(01:00:22):
Saturday Sabbath or owning aBible.
So that wouldn't happen duringJesus's reign.
He says oh, rule the earth witha rod of iron.
So I don't think it's happenedyet.
And if people are trying to getus to believe otherwise, then
maybe that's one of the end-timedeceptions.
This whole idea that people willbe raptured away.
That's so unbiblical, it'smind-boggling.

(01:00:43):
It says very clearly that thedead in Christ will rise first,
and until righteous grandmothercomes out of the grave, then the
end hasn't come.
There is no secret rapture.
The rapture is the secondcoming when people come out of
the grave.
So that how many, how manypeople believe these movies with

(01:01:05):
Nicolas Cage in them or otherpeople, where people are just
going to disappear?
It's not in the Bible.
The Bible says the exactopposite.
It says after the tribulation,then the end will come.
It says it right there the deadin Christ will rise first, not
people alive.
It says it right there.
This is why you have to knowyour Bible.

(01:01:25):
My grandmother went to churchseven days a week and said us
such and such of this religionaren't into reading the Bible.
I listen to preachers talkabout, you know, the
pre-tribulation rapture and it'sso fascinating and symbolic and
poetic.
But it's just not true.
This is why you have to knowyour Bible.

(01:01:46):
This is how you're not deceived.
It's pretty interesting.
I read my Bible over and overand over again, read it many
times, from cover to cover, andstill reading it.
Last time I read the book ofIsaiah.
I don't know why it dawned onme, like the 10th time I read it
, that it's about the last days.
You know, I know Revelation isabout the last days.
I know Daniel's about the lastdays.

(01:02:07):
Isaiah says the day of the Lordmultiple times.
You realize, in 1313 of Isaiahit says the earth will be moved
out of its place.
Well, what happened in 705 BC?
The earth was moved out of itsplace and apparently it's going
to happen again.
One of the links at Sobrellcomfor the new Alien book is a

(01:02:30):
Weather Channel special talkingabout rogue planets and how it
could.
If it just comes planet Xbetween Jupiter and Saturn, some
three quarters of a billionmiles away, it could pull
Jupiter further away from thesun, which would pull Earth
further away from the sun, whichwould give us this incredible
elliptical orbit causing superhot summers and super cold

(01:02:54):
winters.
That could happen.
And one of the things I talkabout is Janet Napolitano's
resignation warning.
Right, we have Eisenhowerwarning us his last day in
office corrupt people in thegovernment about to take over.
Good luck.
He never did anything about itfor eight years for fear they'd
kill him.

(01:03:14):
Right, this is the scripturehold on to your life, you'll
lose it.
And that's what he did.
He held on to his life so theywouldn't kill him and he could
live with his grandchildren inhis old age, but he sacrificed
the life of 300 millionAmericans.
You see, kennedy laid down hislife for what was right.
Eisenhower died too diedselfishly, you see.

(01:03:36):
And so we've got this potentialthat Planet X is going to
happen.
And it says in Isaiah 13, 13,the earth will be moved out of
its place, and maybe that'sgoing to happen again.
And it seems like there's a big, you know, spiritual awakening
about this.
And so we have somethingsimilar to Eisenhower.

(01:03:58):
Janet Napolitano wanted to warnAmericans too.
She's Homeland SecurityDirector.
She knows a lot about what'scoming.
She said something veryinteresting the day she resigned
.
She says a natural disaster islikely on its way, the likes of
which the united states hasnever before seen.
My successor is going to need abig bottle of tylenol to deal

(01:04:21):
with it.
So there's three clues here.
What's coming, what they'regetting ready for, is a natural
disaster.
Secondly, it's a naturaldisaster that has never happened
in the history of the UnitedStates of America.
And there's a third, hiddenclue it's a natural disaster

(01:04:43):
that you could know about yearsin advance.
Well, america has had volcanoesand earthquakes and hurricanes,
and you can't predict thoseyears in advance.
But you could predict a comet oran asteroid, you see, or a
rogue planet.
That, I think, is what they'retalking about.
That's why my opinion they didthis little thing over the last
three years and promoted amedicine for an illness you

(01:05:06):
didn't have that their own vicepresident of the company selling
it says might knock off a fewmillion people.
Right, if a comet or asteroidhits, half the world's
population could die within ayear.
If they lower the population inadvance of that event,
gradually getting rid of elderly, young people, fat people,

(01:05:29):
diabetic people, whatever, thenthey're kind of doing a pre-burn
.
That's my opinion as to whythey're doing that little event
Now to get ready for the cosmicevent that Janet Napolitano
warned us about and it's one ofthe links I talk about.
I show her speech or thatarticle and that's pretty

(01:05:50):
serious warning and that's why Isuspect they're just going to
postpone putting off returningto the moon until something like
that happens and no one's goingto care whether we went to the
moon or shot Kennedy.
Maybe they'll reveal it.
You know, new world order.
While it does mean Illuminati,bilderberg Group, world Economic
Forum and the Masons, ittechnically means there's a new

(01:06:13):
order.
So whoever's number one is notgoing to be number one anymore
and number one economically andmilitarily is the United States
of America.
So it means America's got to betaken down.
They could intentionally revealthat the moon landings are fake
and crash the dollar, crash thestock market, crashed the

(01:06:35):
reputation, right.
And Mike Adams?
I did an interview with himwhen I was in Austin.
He said something veryinteresting.
I don't agree with everythinghe says.
I don't get involved inpolitics, but he says pretty
much everything that the USrepresents is a facade.
You know, in Hollywood, if yousee these sets, they don't have

(01:06:59):
rooms behind the buildings, onthe street, it's just the front,
it's just the front foot of thebuilding and the rest is held
up by two, by fours.
The dollar is a fiat currency.
The greatest accomplishment wasdone in a TV studio.
Maybe the military, the ships,the airplanes, the atomic bombs
that we allegedly have to defendourselves?

(01:07:20):
Maybe they're not as well builtas we've been led to believe.
How much more is just afabrication?
The stock market propped up,the dollar propped up the
dollars propped up because ofthe military of the United
States of America, the militarythreat.
Right, people say, well, whydon't the other nations, you

(01:07:41):
know, spill the beans whilewe're being blackmailed.
And just ask Gaddafi or Husseinor Noriega what happens when
you turn on the United States ofAmerica?
Right, but maybe it'll happen.
Maybe they'll intentionallytell the truth about the moon
landing fraud.
Maybe there will be a civil warcoming.
Maybe that's all engineered tobring down to have a new world

(01:08:03):
order.
I can see it.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:08:05):
Yeah, no doubt You're amazing, Bart.

Bart Sibrel (01:08:08):
Well, my wife doesn't think so.
She just got mad at me.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:08:11):
They never do, they never do.
But yeah, let everybody knowthe name of your book again and
where they can find it.

Well, it's called Aliens from Planet X, and if you
go to Sabrellcom that's my lastname, s as in Sam I B as in boy
R-E-L Sabrellcom, you'll seethe moon book, which goes into
great detail about the moonlanding fraud.
That's an audio kindle or print, and if you keep scrolling down
and of course I read the bookmyself you'll come to the new

(01:08:41):
book, aliens from planet X.
The first half is about whyaliens are more than likely not
what they claim to be, notextraterrestrials.
That's the experts opinion, notmine and then the second half.
If planet X shows up in thenear future, it would be a
perfect opportunity to revealthe aliens and claim they came

(01:09:03):
from this world.
I also go into the potentialdangers of a rogue planet coming
near the Earth, pulling itfurther away from the sun,
causing meteor storms,earthquakes, volcanoes, and so
that book has 29 interactivelinks and you can get the book
and see the links right now atSibrelcom.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:09:25):
Awesome.
Is there anything else you got,Tom?

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:09:28):
Thanks for coming back, bart, you're the
man.
Awesome conversation.

No problemo, glad to do it.
Hope you're feeling betterthere, mike.
Thank you, hope your audio getsimproved there, tom.

I don't know.
We've been having some issueson my end with the past couple
episodes.
They just cut out a little bitand I tried to put headphones on
and it still didn't work, soI'm not sure what the issue is.

Oh no, you always wonder.
I did an interview the otherday and it was a pretty
well-known podcast and they werehaving all sorts of technical
problems and then when I showedthe video of the confession of,
you know, the moon landing fraud, the audio didn't work.
You know, it's kind ofinteresting, you know, I don't
know, they seem really hard,they seem really upset, since

(01:10:10):
the rogan interview, that thatit's resurfaced that they did
fake the moon landing.
Now there's all these videos,you know, to debunk, uh, the
fact that, uh, I'm saying wedidn't go to the moon, which
wouldn't be necessary if theyreally went with it yeah, he was
gonna shut you up with theright care he thought he was
gonna shut you up with the righthand all those years ago well,

(01:10:31):
who knows, I've had divine helpand, as he and as I go to in
moon, in Moon man, some goodguys in the government looking
out for me as well, and we needto be prepared If there's a
child molester on the loose, weneed to protect our children and
if our government is fakingmoon landing, faking this thing

(01:10:52):
for the last three years, mayfake an alien invasion, better
get ready, you know, repent andand stockpile out your favorite
brand of toilet paper you'vebeen for years, so yeah, thank
you so much, bart.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:11:08):
Have a great evening god bless, god bless
bart sabrell?
Bart seems like a good dude,but did it not seem like
sometimes, when I asked him aquestion, he would like totally
either not understand what I wasasking or totally like go in a
different direction with hisanswer than what I what I asked?
Did you notice that?

uh, a little bit the same same here.
I think he just has his idea ofwhat he wants to talk about, or
the point that he wants to getacross in his head.
And he's our guest, he's gonnado his thing and that's why we
bring him on here.
It was definitely a little moreintense to face-to-face talk
with him than uh, on the firstone, where we were just audio

(01:11:47):
and he's uh, he's convicted inhis beliefs for sure.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:11:52):
Truther, gangster og for sure.
It is totally different, right?
Like looking at somebody andthen just talking to them over
the phone.

It does give a way better read on, like
how they feel about what they'retalking about and what they're
talking about, and I like it.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:12:06):
Yeah, it gives you.

I don't like it on camera most of the
time, but I like having them andseeing them face to face.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:12:13):
I feel weird looking at my imbalanced
mustache and fucking unibrowshit on camera it gives you a
better idea of, like when tocome in too, like when they're
going to stop speaking and uh,yeah, you know if, if they're an
animated person especially-like yeah if they got good
facials, then yeah, it's, it'sway better and it's uh, you know

(01:12:34):
what, the first few videos westarted doing.
I didn't have the right settingon, so I only had the speaker
would record now I have it towhere everybody is shown,
because a lot, of, a lot oftimes the reaction is the best
part you know.
But yeah, bart sabo, part two hedoesn't, uh, doesn't believe in
, um, flat earth, doesn'tbelieve in flat earth and he

(01:12:57):
doesn't believe in remoteviewers.
I always find it funny when I'mtalking to someone who has I'm
just going to say extremebeliefs as I do.
I'm not saying that like in adisparaging way, but I always
find it funny when I'm talkingto someone who has extreme
beliefs like myself, and whenyou propose to them a theory,

(01:13:24):
they oh, that is absolutelycrazy like oh okay, that's crazy
, okay, well, what you think'stotally like saying you know, I
don't know, I'm probably guiltyof it too, but you know what I
mean.
Oh it's funny.
He told, like you know, when Iproposed that he's like oh,
that's crazy, I wouldn't believethem, it's all psyop.

(01:13:45):
And then I, the cattlemutilations that's.
I mean maybe, maybe it is, Idon't know.
I just i't know.
What do you think cattlemutilations are?

Besides the band, it could be the
government faking it, and thenit could be aliens doing a
breeding program, fallen angelsdoing a breeding program, some
type of hybrid entity type ofthing.
Yeah, something, something's up.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:14:10):
Yeah, what do you know about Skinwalker Ranch?

I mean, I've watched plenty of things
about it.
I know it's a high, strangeactivity orbs, ufos, apparitions
, uh, poltergeist, fuckingcattle, mutilation, stuff like
that yeah dire wolf that's beenextinct for 10 million years.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:14:30):
They've found but remains of in dna.
That's crazy, and there's beensight like, if you read the book
, the family that sold it tobigelow in the early 90s, uh,
they had an encounter with adire wolf and one of the
strangest accounts was that samefamily.
The wife looked out her windowone day and saw two dogs

(01:14:56):
standing on two legs smokingcigarettes, like like people.
Yeah, like seriously, bro, it's, and you know it's, it's weird.
Just because they just releasedthat harvard crypto terrestrial
study.
It was for like 46 pages.
It was like a um, what do theycall that?

(01:15:16):
A multi-discipline study, youknow across like psychology,
cryptozoology, uh, it's like allthis shit.
You know it's, it's really good.
I think there's like threeprofessors involved and they're
all.
They're all published.
You know it's legitimate fromharvard and um, I haven't read,
picked apart or read through thewhole thing yet, but the gist

(01:15:36):
of it is yeah there's.
They talk about fairies and howthis shit's probably all real
and they live here, so I can'twait to like really dig into
that.
But that's a crazy, crazyrevelation, right became a

(01:15:58):
christian.

Shortly around the time that, uh he got
punched by uh buzz aldrin.
But I wanted to ask him if hewould uh wish he struck him back
or it would do it at this pointin his life.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:16:03):
But I think I know the answer already, so yeah
I think if he would have struckhim back, I think that they
would have fucking probablyprosecuted him for attempted
murder yeah, sure, you know itwould have been a bad day, a
real bad day for him, you know.
I mean as such.
He got fucking smashed in theface, dude, they didn't do
anything.
He was the bad guy you know, intheir eyes.

(01:16:24):
What Unreal.

Yeah, bart's a bro, not a very guest.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:16:30):
Yeah, I asked him about Rogan and again, I
don't think he quite understoodwhat I was saying, but but kind
of like what you said, it almostfelt like he had his preset
agenda.
What do you want to talk aboutCool?
Um, I still can't wait to diginto his book, but uh, yeah so
realcom hit us with a five starreview.

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(01:17:11):
start an MMA channel.
We're pretty knowledgeable inthat arena too, as you guys know
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So what if me and Mike startedour own channel or podcast
solely dedicated to MMA?
Let us know if you guys likethe mixed format or if you want
to hear us keep that separate.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:17:33):
Yeah, that's a good idea.
I like it.

It's our show, so we're going to do what
we want anyway but we're hopingto hear what you guys want.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:17:41):
All right, do all those things and stay away
from pedophiles.
Thank you, bye.

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