40 | Donna Cabral | Trauma, Healing, and Life Contracts | "You Signed A Contract Before You Were Born" - Conspiracy and Chill Podcast

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"$awbuck" Mike (00:01):
The Nephilim sightings are going to start
soon.

"Headhunter" Higg (00:04):
Consciousness has been enslaved.

Your consciousness does not need your
physical body to survive.
It's the thing that's necessary.
It has to be there.
It's the coding that projectsthis world we currently live in.
I want you to read the Bible.
We got reptilians just outsideof our frequency zone.

Donna Cabral (00:22):
Six dimensional beings, the ancient builder race
.
Ideas are the highest form ofintelligence, and that leads you
to truth and clarity.

The Nephilim sightings are going to stall
soon.
Conspiracy show.
It's obvious.
The aliens are god-fearing andinsanely huge.
We're just one planet.

They would have needed a minimum of six feet of
lead shielding in order to getthrough the 25,000 mile thick of
nl and radiation belt.

"Headhunter" Higgins (00:44):
This is real.
They really did fake the moon.

The world is infinitely older than that and I
mean the world with humanbeings in it, skull and bones,
is like one of the villains inthe legion of doom, they said.

I'll let you read the bible, the biblical
flood, the tartaria mud floodconspiracy and chill the
nephilim sightings are going tostart soon.
The bulldog ball I don't wantyou to read the bible.
There's magnets in thebasketballs.
There was a political party, athird party called the
anti-masonic party, at a pointin uh in the united states.

The global pandemic treaty conspiracy and
chill.

We have the distinct, honored first
female guest we ever had and ahigh school classmate of mine
who I, if I'm not mistaken, Idon't think we ever even said a
word to each other in highschool.
We have definitely not said aword to each other in high
school at all, and we're now 31years old, but I see a lot of
cool content from you online and, like we were just saying, you

(01:47):
do a good job getting thethoughts across and stuff and I
figured it'd make for a funconversation.
I'm a fan of what they mightlabel schizopos in all forms, so
we're gonna get into some wildstuff today.
So someone who isn't familiarwith you, or what you're into or
your page, how would you sum itup?

so how would I sum up my gauge?
Let's see um.

I talk about artists, yes talk about
lots of uh alternative thinkingpoints that we right, so in 2019
.

I feel like I went through my spiritual
awakening to where, like, I feltlike I personally woke up and
realized that, oh shit, like theway I've been taught to live,
or think I don't have to do thatanymore, you know, and so the
more I opened myself up to thatrealm, the more information kind

(02:41):
of just came to me, and so onceI got to a point in my own
healing journey that I felt likeI could use my voice to help
anyone else that felt like theywere going through a shit time
in their life or even hittingtheir rock bottom and how to
rebuild yourself up from that,especially if you've been

(03:03):
through trauma and shit that'sbeen passed on from our parents,
you know.
So a lot of people don't realizethat that isn't ours to carry
and we can let it go, becauseI've carried it for almost.
I think I was 25 when I waslike this whole new world like

(03:23):
came to me and I was like holyshit, like I felt like that
moment where you're like, oh wow, this is, this is what I've
been waiting for.
This is something that likethat being of light, like when
it went within me, clicked onand it just started spiraling.
More information, moreinformation, more.

(03:44):
I just always wanted to learnmore and more and more about it,
because it helped me so much.
For sure, yeah.

What would you say is the moment that
triggered it?
Sorry not to interrupt you, butI was wondering, as you're
talking, what was the one thingthat was like the, the turning
point that you said so-calledwake up like oh shit, everything
is a lie.

So okay point that you said so-called wake up,
like, oh shit, everything is alie, so okay.
So back in 2019, I would say itwas like 25 years old.
I remember I was like I'm a newmom and I was seeing patterns
being repeated, right, that likemy parents were doing, and I'm
like, oh fuck, I don't want todo that.
And I remember one day I wasjust like god like I, if you're
real because I didn't want to dothat.
And I remember one day I wasjust like God like I, if you're
real cause I didn't believe inGod, I never went to church, I
never like I didn't know, youknow.

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So I'm like God, if you're real, help me, please help me,
because I can't keep living likethis, cause I was living with
anxiety, I was losing, I wasliving with trauma and if you
were like mentally, emotionallyabused as a child, that shit
stays inside you if you're notlearning how to let it go.
So I just grew up unworthy.

(04:56):
So I started posting thingsonline about crystals, because I
randomly saw someone postsomething about crystals and so
I spiraled into that and my aunttook me to.
She reached out to me.
My aunt was like I have thiswoman.
She's a Reiki practitioner.
You should go see her.
And I was like, okay, I didn'tknow what I was going to walk

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into.
Honestly, I thought maybesomething close to like a priest
or a Pope type thing.
And then I came in and this waslike this bad-ass lady that was
like swearing up the stormstattoos all over her and I'm
like, oh my God, she'severything I want to be in life.
And so, since that, meeting herand hearing her story about how

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her childhood was and how whoshe became, I was like, okay,
then I could do that too.
So, meeting her honestly, shewas like my guru.
I would say that taught meeverything that I know, and if
it wasn't for her, I probablywouldn't be me today.

May I ask you a question and you don't, by all
means you don't have to answerit if you don't want to, but,
coming from my background, acouple of things that you said
just are glaring, like glaringlystuck out to me.
One of them was spiritualawakening and the other one was
rock bottom.
I'm just curious do you comefrom an addiction or alcohol
background?

Looking back, I would definitely say I was an
alcoholic.
But at the time if you told meif I was alcoholic, I would say
no, you know.
But I was drinking regularlyand I was a stay at home mom, so
that doesn't mix well.
Also, my rock bottom was I wasa very angry kid, very angry.

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But the way I was raised I knewsomething wasn't right with the
way my parents were raising me,you know you have that in you,
you, you know.
So I was always angry about thatand I became an angry adult.
So I always sat with so muchanger and then I saw that being
brought out to my son honestly,and then I was like no, I'm not

(06:59):
doing that anymore, I'm notdoing that.
That was my rock bottom for me,and I actually recorded it.
I recorded myself reacting in away that I wasn't proud of to
my son because he's just being akid.
You know, you're yelling at akid for being a kid and you
don't realize you're doing thatbecause they were yelling at us

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as kids, you know.
So you're kind of justrepeating that pattern.
I looked at that video.
I'm like holy shit, like no, Iwant him to be someone.
I want to be someone he's proudto say that's my mom, you know,
and if it wasn't for him, too,he changed my life completely.
He's the one that I wanted tofind, something, you know, and I

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had no idea it was gonna bethis.
I just knew I was like feelingunworthy, feeling like garbage.
Something has to change here.

That's awesome.
Thank you for sharing.

And it's really not easy.
It's a hard thing to do becauseyou have to go within and you
have to cry that shit out andyou have to journal that shit
out and you have to reallyreparent yourself from the
inside out, or else it's justgoing to stay within you.

Have you worked the steps, the 12 steps of AA?
Because it sounds like thatsounds just like a moral
inventory that you would take.
I don't know if you're familiarwith the AA steps, the 12 steps
.

I'm not, but I could just see that it all
pretty much correlates together.
Yeah, rather, which way you godown in a healing way, like it
all kinds of, is the same justdifferent.
You know how you explain it.

For sure.
Yeah, you have to do thatinternal reflection, no matter
which way you go to to grow,overcome it, for sure.

A lot of people in you could say our
community or line of thinking oralternative thinking have
definitely been through someshit or go through some shit in
their own head and that's whatmakes them.
You know, wake up if you willstart thinking all these
different things and, yeah, itmanifests in many different ways
, but sometimes I was thinkingwith both of you like that I
can't relate to and I feel likeI'm stressed and, you know,

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spazzing out myself.
But I don't even have kids toworry about, both your parents,
and so now you got to worryabout another person and your
own shit.

So, man, yeah, it's not easy being a parent,
but it's definitely rewarding,for sure oh yeah, I'm jealous.

I got hit with the urge to want to be a
dad, like as soon as I hit 30kind of, and I'm not one right
now, but one day, but uh yeahhow do you two feel about?

raising kids right now and the world that's
unfolding so for me, honestly,the way I see reality is that if
I give it attention, itamplifies, right.
So in my reality, if it doesn'texist, it doesn't exist.
And and you know, if I say thisto my dad, my dad will be like
oh, watch, you know, don't walkdown the street, watch your

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surroundings.
And I'm like I'm good, I'm safe, I'm protected.
I got angels, I got answers, Igot my spirit guides around me,
like I am totally safe.
But my dad's like, okay,whatever, just make sure you
watch your surroundings.
But I don't, I don't have that,that belief that is gonna
bother me in a negative way ifthat makes sense and I know

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that's crazy, because people arelike, well, what about this and
that?
And then I'm like I don't give afuck about it, I don't pay
attention to it.
If it affects me in a way, okay, I'll deal with it in a
peaceful way and I'll go aboutthat and I'll deal with it, but
I'm not going to let it ruin mylife and carry negative energy
towards it, because that's whatit is right.
It's just an illusion, it's anegative energy shit.

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That I don't.
I'm dealing with my own shit.
I don't want to deal with theoutside world for sure.

I will have to say, though, as a
martial arts instructor heedyour father's warning.
It's good to be aware, it'sgood to be positive vibes too,
but uh, be aware.
And uh, if I'm not mistaken, Isee you painting some dragon
ball z stuff.
So I know you got some warrioruh spirit in you if you watch
that.

So I gotta ask you what's uh this.

This is a telling question to anyone who's
your favorite character indragon ball z you know, don't
put me on the spot like that.
I don't know I'll give you asecond, I'll ask mike, because I
don't know if I've ever askedhim.
Bro, I can't name a character.
I'm an old man.
Watch it right, yeah I'm 40.

I'm 44 next month bro, so I I honestly never
watched it um.
So I I don't know how aboutnaratu.
My kids watch that.
I know, I know that one.

My son watches that too.

So you can't pick.
You're back on the spot now.

I watch.
Honestly, I'm going to behonest with you, I watch it when
he's watching it and I'm notreally paying attention to it.
All right.

Well, there goes my hopeful Dragon
Ball Z nerd out.
But as we were talking aboutnegative energies and positive
energies and stuff, you weretalking angels, ancestors.
I subscribe to all that as welland I think it's very real.
But do you think that I wasdiscussing this a little bit
today earlier with a friend?
Negative thought patterns anddepression and stuff like that

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Maybe not entirely but at leastpartially or, who knows, maybe
entirely caused by like negativeentities or that thought forms.
Just like there's a virus thatcould affect a computer and make
it malfunction andself-destruct.
Just like there's parasitesthat get in your body and like
make it shut down and kill you,like who's to say something
can't infest your mind or yourspirit or something and get in

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there and start making you thinkreally bad things and suicidal
thoughts.

No, I totally believe you in that.
I feel like there's differentfrequencies and if you raise
your own vibration, you can getout of that, because I used to
be in that.
I used to have suicidalthoughts, I used to have really
negative, dark thoughts and Ijust thought, okay, that's my
faith, that's just what I'mdealing with, until I started to
raise my own frequency and thatwent away and I'm like, holy,

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like you don't have to thinkthat way for the rest of your
life.
If you don't want to, you justgot to do the work.
But a lot of people don't wantto do the work programming yeah
it's hard to deprogram?

yeah, it is it is, but once you get to the other
side, it is just bliss mostpeople don't want to do the work
because it's it's reallyfucking hard looking at the
mirror and and being honest withyourself, you know it's a lot
easier just to pretend it'severybody else's fault yeah,
it's, it's.

It's not fun and we have a lot of distractions
too, like alcohol is adistraction and it's highly
promoted everywhere, and then wehave just everything, even to
video games, to shit that'sgoing on out there, concerts
everything is to distract youfrom going within.
Essentially, I mean, yes,they're wonderful things that we
can enjoy them, but you have tomake time for yourself and

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really sit with yourself andjournal if you need to, or cry.
A lot of people don't like tocry and I was like, if crying is
a release, you're releasingsome type of shit in your body
every time you cry.
So if you're not crying, youshould start.

That's true that's the first.
That's the first, and this iswhy we brought some feminine
energy on the podcast, becausewe never were discussing our
feelings around here.
So what else can we speak onthat?
We have Emotions, you know,entities, vibes, if you will.
Definitely an interesting topic.
What do you got to say on thoseLike emotions, energy, body,

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spirit.
Do you think we have like anaura around us and things can
get into our auras?
Oh, definitely.

Like clean your auras?

Oh, definitely Like cleaning your
auras and stuff.

Definitely I do clean my aura regularly and also
we do have like our chakrasystem that I believe in, that
we all have.
You know they all correlatewith different things and if you
essentially go throughheartbreak and you tighten
yourself up, your heart chakrais more blocked, which affects
you, which you don't realize itdoes, but it can in your reality

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and also can affect you withheart problems so that's one way
.
If you have high blood pressure,low blood pressure it stems
from your energy center and youcould essentially heal that by
healing your energy center.
But same with trauma like thatcloses down your three lower
chakras, which comes with trauma, anxiety, which is the root

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chakra.
So if you are not healing that,if you have a lot of anxiety,
if you start working on healingyour chakras, your lower ones,
you can release that.

You mentioned Reiki earlier.
What is is that?
That's because I've looked intoit a little bit.
One of my massage ladies isvery like uh esoteric with her
healing stuff and I've done someother stuff.
She'll like needle me and dosome cool stuff.
I think she mentioned it before.

So is that like the practice of healing, like
your different bodies orwhatever your your energetic
body yeah, exactly that's whatthat is yeah, so basically,
reiki is a japanese practice and, um, I wrote this down okay.
So rei means universal and kimeans a flow of life force,

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energy.
So what, essentially whatyou're doing when you're doing a
reiki session is that you areopening up your crown chakra to
let in the divine golden, whitelight energy.
That's what I call it, otherpeople call it different things,
but it's essentially the samething, and it will flow through
your chakra centers out of yourpalms, which everyone has little

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chakra centers in their palmsand the more you work with that
energy like, the stronger itgets.
So you can, you know,intentionally set it to heal
someone else's pain or trauma orwhatever.
But in order to become like aReiki practitioner, to practice
on other people, you have tofirst learn how to do it on
yourself and then you move up onthe stages.

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So that's what my um guru.

She taught me, that right so I used to go
for that so are you practicingthings at the moment like
healing stuff?

on myself because I'm I'm not gonna lie, I
work a 40 hour work week, sothat's tough on.
And raising a child, so that'stough on trying to squeeze in
time for yourself.
But I do do it on myself and Ido do it on my son, so we do it
together sometimes if he wantsto, but usually I just do it for

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him.

Do you like meditate or do any other
practices like that?

So at the moment , I'm actually'm actually this
is crazy and I haven't shared itwith anyone, actually but I've
really been called to listen toSean McDrumming.
So, lately, for at least 30minutes a day, I will blindfold
myself and listen to SeanMcDrumming and meditate.

Brutal.

So I do that daily for at least 30 minutes I
give myself.
If it goes longer, it goeslonger.
But that's one thing that Imake sure I do daily, just
because something within me isjust calling to do that.
And if I'm not listening tothat then it's like beating me
up in the back of my head that Ididn't do that today, or you
know that I missed a day or twoand I was, so I was like no,

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this needs to be something I dodaily and I'm not sure where
it's going to lead, but it'sobviously it's going to
definitely lead me somewhere.
But I bet right now that iswhat I'm being called to do
internally.

Have you had any wild experiences or
consciousness type of shifts andstuff during that?

No, I haven't, which is why I feel like I need
to practice more.
But I've had had consciousnessshifts throughout the years,
from who I am today to who I was.

For sure, and something you mentioned that
we will definitely get to.
But I want to ask somethingelse.
First, you said quantum leapingis something you've been deep
diving lately.
But before that, ask that whatis your ancestry?

mainly, what do you mean by that?

Do you know like?
Are you like native American?

Oh, um, no, my family's from Peru.
Okay, canon oh, um, no, myfamily's from peru, okay, so I
know they for sure have somelike tribal yeah no yeah on a
picture right, yeah, and theywere doing.

I think dmt comes from peru, so like
they're the ones who kind ofpioneered the whole shamanistic
thing, so that's not a surpriseright, and I'm definitely.

I've never gone to per, but like that is
something that calls me too, andI'm like man, I'm going to just
go to Peru.
Like one of the things that Iwant to do in life is go to Peru
with a backpack, with no planand just like God, guide me to
wherever the fuck I need to goyou got to.

I had pretty much a similar type of
journey when I went to irelandand it was epic.
That's where most of myancestry is and that was it
still feels like some comic book.
So yeah, I would highlyrecommend going on a homeland
pilgrimage to anyone yeah, I'mglad you did that.

That sounds so fun.
Yeah, I get that idea a lotactually in my head to go do
that, but one day I will.
I just think my son needs to beolder and maybe take him with
me for sure.

I mean, he's connected to it too.
How is your uh quantum leap orconsciousness shifts?
Then let's get into that alittle bit, because I would
assume, if you're gonna besitting there drumming, that
maybe you slipped into adifferent timeline or saw some
past ancestor shit and hopefullyI.
I mean, is that what you want?
That'd be pretty sick, rightyeah, absolutely that's the goal

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.

Right is to feel connected and feel that shit.
But no, lately I've been solately.
I listened to bashar and um,bashar is a entity that is
channeled by daryl Anka and Iprobably listen to him every
single morning when I get readyfor work, honestly.
So Bashar is this alternatedimensional being?

Holy shit, I never heard of this.

That essentially is his planet is 500 light
years away, right From theplanet asasani, and he channels.
Dare.
Well, daryl channels tim andyou know time and space, they
say, don't, doesn't exist.
So even though he istechnically from the future,

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they can channel because timeand space doesn't exist.
So they're channeling whatever.
But um bashar says that darylis the human earth version of
him, if that makes sense andwhat is the kind of shit that he
says?

what?
What is the kind of stuff thathe says?

so he'll go into trance and usually the stuff
that I post about is what?
Some of the similar things thathe talks about how, um, you can
, by rewiring your brain andchanging your beliefs and
letting go of it, doesn't matterwhat it is, it could be as

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simple as okay, this is notsimple.
But let's just say, trauma inyour life, you can heal it.
But he talks about jumping intoanother reality, to where
you're already healed, and youcan do that instantaneously if
you choose to, by going withinand connecting to that version
of you on an alternate universalearth that already exists, that

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you are that version.
That makes sense.
And then he says that we on thisplanet shift through alternate
dimensions and universes abillion times per second.
So the person you were a secondago, you don't have to be that
person.
So he says that we, the reasonwhy we don't see that shift, is

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because we're programmed like acomputer to keep those memories
going.
And that is what essentially iskeeping us stuck to one type of
reality earth, dimensionalearth, and which, which I
believe that is why people havethat Mandela effect, because
they're shifting throughdifferent parallel reality

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earths.
They're not even realizing it.
So that little shift in like Idon't know what people say, like
a book title or something, isdifferent.

That is why because it's they're
shifting through, everyone isshifting through different real,
and I don't know how it comestogether, though, but I do know
everyone has their own realityit's, it's wild and stuff like
you kind of described has beenalluded to before, like when
someone hit their head and likewake up and everything in their

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life's the same, but like theircar is different or their wife
has a different name, or likeit's something small has changed
, or you have a near deathexperience and then suddenly you
wake up and it's like wait, no,that didn't happen.
You know, something else is off.
And I feel like I had it happento me before with some like
final destination shit twicewhile driving Like I should have

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got murked by like a fallingoff plane coming in my car,
getting hit by a car coming onand somehow like Nope, I
glitched out and it didn'thappen.
Or I just got really fuckinglucky somehow.
So I think that that's real.

And that's what, like Bashar says too.
Like you can say, like how yousaid you were almost in an
accident, that version of youactually did play out, but you
weren't ready to go.
So you shifted yourconsciousness into another
version of you actually did playout, but you weren't ready to
go.
So you shifted yourconsciousness into another
version of you that was similarto the one that you were living,
which is wild to even wrap yourhead around sometimes to think

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about that.

We actually do that and what the hell do we
live in then?
Right, so, based on, first off,this is awesome, and so based
off what you just said, I I wasa heroin addict for a long time,
for like 15 years.
I've been clean for a decadenow, over a decade.
I overdosed five times.
I was they were going to bet,like literally the one time I

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woke up and there was a body bagright there.
And they're like the only reasonwhy we worked so long on you is
because you're so young.
I was in a coma for five daysone time, so when all of those
five times perhaps like Iexpired but I just wasn't ready,
that's fucking awesome and thatcould have played that reality
played out.

So he says that reality played out of you
actually dying, but you were notready.
Your your mission on thisplanet.
It was not yet, so you chose tokeep going.

That's so crazy and you know, people have told
me that and I just neverbelieved it.
But I do now.
I do now, I have recently, inthe last few years, but I just I
didn't want to believe that.
But yeah, it's so weird, right,it's also fucking weird.

It.
So is.
It so is.

The synchronistic timing of this
episode is perfect, because youshould have heard what mike was
saying before you got on donnaand we send him the the past
couple things that he's likefeeling compelled and he's like
it's corny, but like I feel likeI need to make my channel to
help people heal from like drugaddiction and stuff, and he's
he's doing that now and hismission was not fulfilled,
that's for sure.
We're talking all types ofhealing and mike's going right

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towards it and I'm trying tourge him good, I love that and
that's.

That's the only reason why I'm doing it too.
I'm like I just want to makesomebody else that feels like
they're a piece of shit andworthless, that they are more
than that.
And you know, if someone wouldhave told me that back then I
would have been like get thefuck out of my face, like I do
not want to hear this bullshit.
But when you actually believeit and you actually like, it

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takes over you and you're likeholy shit, like I can be
anything I want to be, which iswhy I started to paint, because
I've always had an inner callingto paint.
But I told myself I was nevergood enough.
I don't know how to do this,how I don't know how to do this,
I can't paint.
And then when I went down andI'm like baby steps, I bought my
first little thing fromWalgreens and some cheap-ass

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paint and I was like baby steps.
And here I am fucking bustingout perfect cartoon photos.
I work hard on that shit Do youdo any art shows?
I've done some in the past.
Everyone always says do artshows, I have all my shit hung
up here.
I just honestly, this is Idon't have the time, which I

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don't make the time.
I should say that, Right,Because I on the weekends
sometimes like I want to dowhatever the hell I want to do,
I don't want to do.
You know, pack up my shit andgo somewhere, which it's a lot
of social stuff too.
Yeah, a lot of energy to standaround with your creations in
front of a bunch of people, I'msure but I would say it is
shocking when I'm standing thereand they think someone looking

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at my art is actually the personthat did it.
I'm like no, it's me, and thatdoes it.
I'm like no, it's me.
And they're like what?
I'm like yep, so that was fun,but I do make a couple hundred
every time I do sell, so Ishould probably do that again.

Pretty cool to profit off of your
creative ventures, that's forsure you should connect her with
Matt Slap dude.
Yeah, for sure, our one friendwho did the art for this show.
He does shows all the time, sooh, he did the art.
That's awesome I'm sure you gotno shortage of other artists
that you know, but he's alwaysdoing shit, so if you ever want
to jump on shows and stuff, Icould definitely hook you up

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with him.
Yeah, he's, he's fun.
We had him on the show.
You might have even listened tohim.
I think I showed you one thathe was on twice.
He was on.

Oh, then I probably have listened to it.

We were talking about art and creativity
and imagination kind of being,like I don't know, a source that
you can pull from Like are anyideas really unique in our own,
or is it like an artist can justlike tap into the collective
thing and like bring it to life?

own or is it like an artist can just like tap
into the collective thing andlike bring it to life?

yeah, I totally believe that an artist
can tap into a collective flowor whatever that is out there
and just do it, becausesometimes I'll look at shit I've
done and I'm like I don't evenknow how I did that for sure,
and, uh, some people creditthings like that to I don't know
again entities like, they say,music has a certain vibe to it,
like, if you're only listeningto hateful metal and shit all

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the time, that you're going toattract negative entities.
Or what I dislike, though, ishow, like the elite, so-called
the, the real, like occulthollywood weirdos they're so
into art with their twistedweirdo shit, like they corrupt
it in a way, but I was gettingat it's like these low vibe
entities are jealous of humansbecause we do have the ability

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to create and like demons orwhatever else.
They just want to I don't knowtear us down and limit us and
make us think that, uh, we areworthless or a piece of shit or
whatever else.
Like I totally think that thisis, this is always my thought.
Like if I'm watching fuckingpresidential elections or
whatever else on tv, I'm like,oh, whatever demons run the
world, it's like they live.

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You put on the sunglasses andeverything you see is affected
by demons and reptilians.
100, 100.
So do you believe in aliens ordo you think that they're demons
?

you know I listened to that podcast that
you guys posted.
Yes, was it yesterday or today?

Don't want to know , but, ari, part two came out
today, yeah.

Oh yeah, about um that aliens are demons.

Did he say that or?

they're not real .
I don't know where.
He doesn't believe in aliens.

I kind of don't at this point anymore.
I was fucking obsessed withaliens for years.
Really I don't know what Ithink now.
I think they're probably sometype of.
Maybe they've been here allalong.
I don't know the giants.
It seems like they were a fleshand blood thing to me.

So I'm going to tell you my belief.
You could believe it.
You don't have to believe it.

But I'm going to share mine.
Have you heard of the womanDolores Cannon?
Dolores Cannon, Definitely.
I have Is she.
She's an abductee.

No, no, she's a hypnotherapist.

Okay, okay .

That that will take subjects and she started as
a normal hypnotherapist likeconnecting to past lives and say
somebody wanted to quit a badhabit and started in their past
life or something.
So she just connects them toheal whatever, like smoking
cigarettes or something you know, like healing whatever.
Then she kept doing it anddoing it and her subject started

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to go under like she calls it,the subconscious mind, to where
she was getting universalinformation about aliens, about
the planet, about people, abouthumans, about, and she would say
she channeled somebody from theUS.
Then she would go to Englandand channel someone and it would

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take off right where she was.
So she has about 10 books onher stories of what you know,
aliens that she's essentiallyconnected or extraterrestrial
beings, whatever that she'sconnecting to, and honestly it
lines up with, like what otherpeople say or I resonate with it

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, you know, on a deeper level.
So basically, in some of herbooks she says that.
So I believe aliens exist andthere are stories where people
get abducted by aliens, right.
So she'll have a subject cometo her and say, hey, you know,
I've been abducted by an alien.
Can you hypnotize me to go backto that time so I can see what
happened, because I don't know.
I don't remember my body wentinto trauma and I don't have

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that memory, but I do rememberbeing abducted or whatever.
So she'll go back in thatmoment and she's like, yes, you
were beamed up to a spaceshipand the spaceship you signed a
contract before you were born tobe abducted at this time, at
this moment, because you arehelping that species do
something, whatever it is.

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And so, yes, it's traumatizingon a human level, but on a
spiritual, higher self level,you knew this was going to
happen to you and the reason whyyou forgot it was because it's
so traumatic that your humanbody can't process it right now,
or some shit like that.
So she kept you know, doingthis and doing this to other
people, and what she eventuallygot was like which has helped me

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in my healing journey and tolet go of shit that's happened
to me, that I signed up for this, that everyone gets a soul
contract.
Have you heard that?
That everyone has a soulcontract?
You know it.
You essentially watch yourparents.
Before you're born, you watchyour parents for a few years.
You sign Well, you don't reallysign, however, it works up
there right but you're like, youwatch these two people you're

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like, yes, these are my parentsand usually we incarnate into
families that we've incarnatedon other planets, so they say,
or on different past times, youknow, on this planet.
So you sign this contract andyou watch these people, you get
born into their family andusually it's to break those

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generational curses, but you getso stuck in the game and you
get so stuck on the wheel ofkarma that none of it gets no
one's fulfilling their mission.
So in her books they talk aboutthat and how the reason why

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we're here is to change theworld and break free of all the
chains and shit, and how theworld's been running for the
past I don't know, like trillionyears or whatever.

I think that we all are kind of, you
know, in something we gavepermission to be here for, it's
a yeah, like you said, you kindof signed up for it.
I do believe that.
I do believe we're in the timewe're in for a reason, although
I kind of wish I was back in asimpler time, to be honest.

You're like the Bronze Age right.

That's where I would have done my best.
I feel that's where I probablydid my best.

That's probably where I belong can I say
something about what you werejust saying?
Donna reminds me there's a bookI wonder if you've read it.
It's, uh, called journey ofsouls and it's by a gentleman
named michael newton and he is apsychiatrist and hypnotherapist
and he didn't do past liferegressions or anything like

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that what he would always havepeople asking him to do it, and
he had a long-term client andeventually this client had this
pain and this client thoughtthat maybe if he was able to do
a past life regression, he couldfigure out where this pain came
from.
So the hypnotherapisteventually decided okay, I'll do
it.
Well, what he found after doingthe first one, he ended up doing

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hundreds of all different kindsof people and what he found is
all these people described thesame places when they went after
death, the same rooms, the samesoul groups.
He explained, and it reallylike.
It really connects everythingand it's like it.
It really shook me to my core,you know, and it's it's a crazy

(35:52):
book and I think, I think you'dprobably enjoy it if you haven't
read it.
It's called journey of souls I'mgonna write that down, because
I have not read that yeah, itsounds very similar to to um the
work that you were justdescribing, so I think you'd
like it.

And to go back to the alien thing real
quick, freaking the abductions.
I don't know where I'm at withit, because they do happen.
The abductions seem to happenLike there was giants on Earth,
that's 100% so.
Like there was some Anunnaki,like gene mingling or fallen
angel mating.
Like people talk with otherraces.
There's reptilians they'respiritual entities, like but all

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I know is the government tryingto get us to believe in aliens
is what makes me be like nahdude, there's no fucking way now
.
Why would ancient aliens be onthe history channel and pushed
on us, unless they're gonna pulla fast one on us now and try to
trick us?

well, yeah, I definitely do think there's a
trick up their sleeves with iteventually.
Right, because we're taught tofear them.
But all the books I've readabout aliens, they are just as
brothers and sisters as we areas humans to us.
That's how they see us, becauseif they wanted to kill us, they
could have done that by now.
They, their technology, they'reso advanced.

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So they say in the books thatthey could have blown us all out
already if they were here toharm us.

Maybe they have on a different timeline and we
just all jumped because weweren't ready.

That's true, that's true, that could happen,
but do you hear, like there's inSedona, that there are ships
above, and do you ever see, likepeople I have people that I
follow on Instagram that they'llpost clouds and it'll be in a
shape of a ship and they'll belike, oh, it's a cloaked ship.

For sure I've been down all of it.
I remember I would.
I would see things that peoplewould talk about like the
Galactic Federation andapparently there was like nukes
and stuff stopped before by UFOs.
Like the UFOs came and likeshut down like a nuclear plant
or they were about to likelaunch a nuke or start a war or
something and something happened.
And they say Eisenhower metwith aliens.
They say the Nazis and like thereal society was was talking
with aliens.
I'm sure you heard of MariaOrsic, right, the lady.

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I'm sure you've probably heardof it or seen her come across
her, but she's like some Naziwitch lady, like they had
government appointed likewitchcraft and like a cult
society.
It was these ladies with likesuper long hair.
They wouldn't cut their hairCause they thought their hair
was like an antenna to thespirit world and they were
communicating with these beingsfrom another world and like
channeling them.

I do believe that, though, that your hair is
a nice antenna yeah for sure,for sure.

Do you have you not cut your hair for a
long time because of that, ordo you still cut?

it.
No, no, no.
I do whatever I want with myhair whenever I feel like it.

So, no, I I believe that it can be, but I
don't practice your hair down toyour ankles yeah, no, I don't
that's what these ladies had andlike they would do some classic
which like a crystal ball andmeditate in a group and stuff,
and they channeled otherentities that the Nazis were
apparently in contact with andgave them a bunch of technology

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and ideas.
And then she vanished and whoknows, maybe she went away with
them, maybe she quantum jumped,but yeah, she's a mystical
figure.

That's interesting.
I've actually never heard thatInteresting.

I've actually never heard that.
What crazy paranormal personalexperiences or wild things of
your own experience could youshare Anything like that?
Well, when I was a kid, I wouldsee things.
I would see like mystical misty.

I don't even know how to describe it like
creatures, I don't know.
I don't have my memories veryvague.
I don't even know how todescribe it Like creatures.
I don't know.
I don't have.
My memory is very vague, but Iremember seeing things when I
was a kid, which is why I feltso comfortable going into this
stuff, because I felt it inmyself.
I saw shit that I shouldn'thave seen, that shouldn't have
been there, you know, as a kid.
But when I would tell myparents about it, they would

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honestly yell at me like you'relying, this isn't true, stop
making shit up.
And I'm like no, I'm literallyabout to shit my pants right now
.
I saw that, anyway.
So I shut that side of me off.
I learned to shut that off as akid, and I would feel things,
too, like spirits.
I guess you can call it spirits.
I don't know, I was little, Ididn't know what anything was.

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I just know that I was feelingthings that weren't seen, and
then, um, so that was, that wasall I've seen as a kid, and then
I shut that off.
And then, now that I'm gettinginto it, I haven't really seen
anything that spooked me orscared me enough, but I do like
some of my things will move.
Or I have a sensor light andsometimes it goes off and on and

(40:30):
I'm not saying like it'ssomething evil or whatever, but
like shit like that happens tome all the time and they say, if
things happen to to you likethat, it's because your energy
they know they can sense thattype of energy towards people
and they go towards that which Idon't, I don't, I don't know, I
haven't really touched in onlike ghosts or shit like that,

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but shit will move in.
And also, I lived across thestreet from a cemetery when I
was in middle school, so Ididn't live in the district, so
don't rat me out when we went toschool.

What I was going to say is living in the
area.
Did you ever go to bachelor'sgrove?

hell fucking.
No, no, I used to frequent mysisters have oh yeah yeah, but
no, I'm not sure honestly.
I'm sure they have something toshare, but I don't know.
I know when I was little,anything that had to do with
anything scary or paranormal, Idid not want anything to do with

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that closed it off yeah, butnow that I'm getting older, I'm
getting, I'm getting morecomfortable.
It doesn't scare me anymore.
But when I was younger, hellfucking was not messing with
that shit.

Yeah, I don't think I'm exactly trying
to seek it anymore either.

Yeah, also, I heard like things can follow you
.

For sure.
That's why I don't like messingwith that and it all scares me.
Anytime someone's a skeptic onlike spiritual stuff or whatever
, and they're trying to I don'tknow play Mr Concrete, like I
have to see it, I have to feelit, or it's not real, I'm like,
all right, well, would you playwith a Ouija board?
And if their answer is fuck, no, I'm like, okay, why?
Because you believe somethingmight happen and you're scared.
You're scared because part ofyou does believe it, but

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sometimes I'll be like, no, I'lldo it.

And I'm like okay, boards, is that?
it's the way you approach it andwhen you so essentially you're
basically opening up a portal,for sure, and if you're not, if
you don't know how to protectand bring in only light and have
that the first beings that wantto come to the light, because
essentially humans are filledwith light, they're attracted to
us.
We, even if you don't believe,like if you have, if you believe
you have no worth you are sofull of light that other beings

(42:51):
know that, like, especially theones of the lower worlds, so
those are the first ones thatare going to come up because
they're the ones dying to reachthis space.
So that's what they say reachthis space.
So that's what they say, likeif you're not learning how to
protect yourself, the board,your surroundings, the first

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things that are going toapproach you are demonic things.
I mean, we say it as demonicbut honestly they say, like you
know, on a god source, higherself level, there is no such
thing as good or bad and there'sa reason why that being is that
being.
You know, and I don't knowtheir path or their story or
whatever, so, but we as humanssee things you know yin and yang

(43:33):
, like that has to be demonicand that has to be good, or you
know shit, like that true, thereis a order to things and you
can't have bad without good wejust had a demonologist on a
little while ago.

I think we even asked him that exact question
about can things follow you?
And he was like oh yeah, likethat's real.
So you're probably smart not togo when you were younger to
bachelor's grove.

It's scary but you sound like you're
speaking from experience.
Have you ouija boarded?

no, I have not and I probably wouldn't have,
even though I feel like I wouldknow how to protect myself from
anything.
But no, I have never done that.
I've heard stories of otherpeople doing it.
That's enough for me to be like.
You know, I'm a pass on thisone.

For sure.
I've had enough spooks to knowthat type of shit is real.
I don't need to play with theboard to figure it out.

I'm very skeptical with a lot of shit.
I believe a lot of crazy shittoo, but I'm very skeptical with
a lot of crazy shit and I swearto God, this happened, and no
exaggeration, this reallyhappened to me when we were
living before we bought ourhouse.
We were living in Lombard.
We were living in an apartmentbuilding and my wife was

(44:46):
experiencing like things while Iwas at work and like weird shit
Like a box moving across thefloor.
She thought it was our cat.
It wasn't our cat.
She was trying to open thebedroom door and she said it was
like 500 pounds was keeping itshut and then all of a sudden,
boom, it opened.
And then she said she saw mistforming.
Okay, like this all happened inlike three days.

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So I invited a buddy over and Iwas like let's fuck it.
We got all high and shit, andit was like two in the morning.
I'm like let's do some evps,you know so I I had a fucking
dictaphone, dude, everything wasquiet and I was like I was
asking a bunch of questions.
You know like hey, are you aman or a woman?
Who are you?
And then, when I put headphoneson, I played that back.

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I swear on everything I love,bro.
I swear on my kids, everythingI love.
When I asked the question, areyou a man or a woman?
You heard a voice say female.
I swear to God.

Only on the recording.

On the recording you could hear it, or you heard
it in real life.
No, no, they didn't hear it inreal life.
Didn't hear shit in real life.
It was only until I played itback and and, like my buddy,
sean, who was there, I was like,bro, I'm like I'm not gonna
tell you what I hear, but I'mgonna tell you after I ask this
question.
Tell me what you hear.
He heard the same thing.
My wife heard the fucking samething.
You could hear it, bro, it wasthere.
Guess what I found out likefour days later?

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I was friends with the guy, thekid that looked right below me,
him and his family.
What I found, I told him thestory.
What I found out like a weeklater, was that before we moved
in, on the floor above us, awoman had a baby and her
postpartum stress was so badthat she killed herself.

I'm like that has to be fucking connected
, right, yeah, and I'm not, Imean, I don't know, that's so
weird, right, like I don't evenknow what to believe, but that
was real, that really happenedno, I totally believe that I'll
say, when we went to bachelor'sgrove once we went to our
friend's house after and hisdoor slammed open that night

(46:40):
apparently, and there was a holein the wall as if, like, unless
he went that far to like trickus to be like, hey, let me piss
off my family by pretending thatsome, because he was scared as
to go anyway, and we went in themiddle of the day and then we
caught an evp that day actuallytoo, and it was crazy because,
like it was undeniable, likelike you probably heard or you
watched the ghost shows andyou're like, yeah right, this is
made up, like this is corny,and like we're listening back,

(47:04):
just chilling.
And there was a part, like youknow the legends, that like
mobsters would dump bodies inthe lagoon there or something.
And we're like talking aboutmobsters on the recording and
like as we're talking about, youhear a whisper and it goes come
get some punk.
And we listened to it so manytimes over.
Come get some punk, like tauntfrom a mobster, or something.
And it was like creepy, gross,just like guttural, exactly how

(47:26):
they sound, like ghostly.
And then his door slammed openand left a hole in the wall that
night and like his sister wasfreaking out, and so so I saw
the dog man there too, butthat's neither here nor there.

Go ahead and tell your story, what you're
about to say um, when we livedacross the street from a
cemetery, things would happen tome, but only when I was home
alone and um, there would be atime it was super late at night
one day and um, and coming frommy mom's room, the tv um turned

(47:59):
on and it wasn't like a normalchannel, it was like that, like
static.
It was static of course and I'mI'm the biggest chicken.
I had to be like 12, 13 yearsold, okay, yeah, and I had to go
in there and unplug it from thewall because there's no way.

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I was just gonna turn off thebutton, like that shit would
have turned back on and I, myheart is beating fast.
I go and I close her door and Igo to the bathroom.
I'm like calling my mom, likecome home, and she's like you're
crazy, you know, like nottrying to hear what I gotta say.
I get out of the bathroom.
Her door's open.
I'm like what the fuck?
I know I closed her doorbecause I didn't want to see

(48:41):
inside it.
Oh, no the door was open, Iclosed it again and I was
hearing noises from there and Isat in my hallway until my mom
came home because I was notabout to deal with that.
But, um, after we moved out ofthat apartment, my mom could.

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My mom actually said that whenshe was home alone things would
happen to her too, but shedidn't want to say anything
because she didn't want to scareus even more.
So I'm like great, so you justlaid it off, like none of the
shit that I went through wasanything.
You're like you're making thatshit up and I'm over here dying
because I'm scared out of mymind but she experiencing some

(49:22):
of the same stuff.
She would experience thingsmoving and honestly she said
that things would be there onesecond and she would go back and
she's like I know it was justthere and it's not there and
it'd be somewhere else.
But she wouldn't tell us thatuntil we left.
And you know what's so crazy isthe first night she brought us
to that apartment to show us.

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She took us at night purposelyso we wouldn't see what was
across the street, which was acemetery, and it was um
resurrection mary cemetery ohman, I got a story about that.

When you're done okay.

So, um, and I didn't know that at the time,
you know.
So we're going up the stairs,we're looking at this apartment,
I'm looking around and I'mlooking through all the rooms
and it's empty and I I go backto where, like everyone was, and
I'm like do you guys feel thatthere are like dead people in
here?
You guys feel that, and my momkind of like her eyes being open
and she's like why would yousay that?
And I'm like I don't know, I'mjust asking if you guys feel

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that, and I had no idea thatacross the street was the
cemetery some people are justmore sensitive.

Have you ever seen the gates?
They I think they got rid ofthem now, but like you could see
where, supposedly, she grabbedthe gates and they rewelded like
those those parts so a longtime ago, shit, this was
probably like, okay, I didn'teven have a license yet, so it
was probably like 1995, okay, um, me and my cousin we would, we

(50:48):
would wait for his dad to go tobed and then we would go out in
his arrow star and we would go,like from bowling brook to pick
up girls in berwin, right wherewe were from.
Actually we my wife is in thisstory at the time you know where
is this?
The cemetery, justice, illinois, okay, resurrection cemetery
and um, so you know the story.
You know hitchhiked,da-da-da-da.
So you have to go through Summittoo, like we would go through

(51:09):
Summit, burritoville, and okay,so one night we picked up these
girls one of them, which is mywife now, and my cousin's
driving the girl he's seeing ispassenger my girlfriend's middle
row and I'm middle row closestto the sliding door on the right
and we're driving down ArcherAvenue which is the main drag

(51:30):
that the Willowbrook ballroom'soff of that she was at and the
cemetery and everything we'regoing and all of a sudden, up in
front of me, up in front on theright, we see like a jogger.
But this jogger's wearing likea like a glowing white kind of
like weird outfit.
It wasn't like a dress, it waslike a glowing white.
And as we pass I look and she'sright next to me in the window

(51:54):
and I'm making eye contact withher.
It was black, soulless eyes.
Dude, I stole, I, I stood, Ilike stared into it and I I
turned like this and I was likedude, dude, that's fucking weird
.
And then my cousin is lookingin the rear view mirror and he
says what the fuck?
And I said what?
I turn around.
She's running in the middle ofthe road gaining on us as he is

(52:15):
flooring the fucking car.
As I turn around back to mycousin.
I'm like dude, go go.
He's like she's gone.
I said what I said hold on.
I said like she's gone.
I said what I said hold on.
I said people could run, peoplecould run fast, but people
don't disappear.
I said turn around.
And I had to fucking convinceeverybody to turn around and if
you know like there's like alittle, a little like runoff
with a fucking fence, like afucking 12 foot tall fence on

(52:37):
this side, and she didn't crossthe road.
So we went back, dude, and Icouldn't, we, we couldn't figure
out where she went.
I'm not saying it was her, butthat was a fucked up experience
right there.
And you know, we, we used to goall up and down archer trying
to find you know her.
And I remember one time I waslike I was like fuck this, she
ain't real, fuck her.
You know like fuck, fuck,effing the dead.

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You know.
And then, right after I said it, there was a cross.
You know like people putcrosses for accidents and shit.
There was a cross right.
You know like people putcrosses for accidents and shit.
There was a cross right in theside of the woods that said RIP
M I K E.
And it was like right after Iwas cursing her bro, I was like,
oh, that shut me up.

Yeah, I bet.

Yeah.

Fucking resurrection.
I was terrifying I bet livingnext to it.

Yeah, and those stories that you hear, like the
one that you just said, likesimilar stories, I'm like no, I
don't want anything to do withthat place ever again.
It's for some reason.
Ghosts like that just freak meout.
I don't know.
She needs to cross over.
Someone's got to help her tothe other side.

I'm sure the ghost could be described as
some sort of stuck in betweentimelines or realities or
something too.

I've heard that ghosts are.
You know, they've lived so manyhuman lives that when you die,
you kind of forget that there ismore.
So when you die, you're like'relike okay, no, I need to stay
here, because essentially you'velived so many lives here that

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this, you think this is whereyou're supposed to be.
You know, as a human, that youforget that you're supposed to
go wherever it is that you'resupposed to go.
So they are clinged on to earth.
That's what I've heard.
That they cling on to earthbecause they forget.

Yeah, that's definitely something like
heard that they cling ontoearth because they forget yeah,
that's definitely something likeif you're heavily imprinted to
like an area or uh, a routine orsomething that you're seeing
still doing that thing orwhatever.
Like they say, oh, you stillhear the ghost footsteps or the
ghost like whistling this tuneor you hear the soldiers
bringing their fucking bootsalong the uh walkway or whatever

(54:46):
.
But this guy that I met atbachelor's grove I think I've
told this story before basicallydescribed phenomena as a glitch
, or he called it time travel,and we were smoking weed at the
time.
He's like smoking weed is aform of time travel too, and he
didn't.
He didn't elaborate on that,but he left it at that and he
said that uh, ghost is just likea playback of something else

(55:07):
that happened at that time orthat's happening at that time.
And he tried to say that heslipped into a different reality
.
Like he's like a groundskeeperat bachelor's grove or like a
really enthusiastic bachelor'sgrove guy.
And he said that he's heardpeople talking there that
weren't there, like saying like,oh, I saw it.
Like thinking that he's theghost in bachelor's Grove that

(55:27):
someone else is seeing in adifferent timeline, like there's
a group of people at Bachelor'sGrove that aren't there in his
reality, if you will, that areseeing like an apparition of him
bleeding through, and he can'tsee them, but he can hear them.
So he came up with that ideathat it's like an interference
of reality or something, and hereferenced the tower nearby, if

(55:47):
you know like that, that bigorange radar tower at the park
nearby, like the gaelic park, ornear the school, foster hilly
or whatever the tower park theycall it.
He's saying thatelectromagnetic radio tower or
something.
It causes a glitch in realityand that that's where paranormal
hot spots occur.
And as soon as he was doingthat, my wheels started turning.
As he was talking about that,like the druids and like ancient

(56:10):
, like pagan dudes would be likenear the tallest tree or near
the tallest standing stone.
It's kind of just like usingcrystals to channel or enhance
things, and even radios are madeout of crystals and minerals
and stuff.
So I feel like that moderntechnology is just doing the
same thing that they were doingback then, trying to like
communicate with the spiritworld or some shit I believe him

(56:31):
.

I'm sure shit like that happens.
It has to do you like nature alot me?
Yeah, I have to.
It's my way of letting go andreleasing anxiety and stress,
and if I could just sit at thepark on some grass, that's a
perfect day for me.

People don't really realize how
profound touching grass is foryour wellbeing.
Underrated, they meme it thememe.
Go touch grass, weirdo whatever, but being in nature is awesome
.

Yeah, it heals you actually, it really does
Especially if you're bare reallydoes especially yes, and I try
to be all the time.
If I'm outside at a barbecue,my shoes are off.
I you can look at me like I'mcrazy.
I don't give a fuck.
I pass that stage where I don'tcare anymore about how other
people view me and I'm.
I will be barefoot at the park,anywhere that is know safe

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grass to walk on.
I will take my shoes off.

A hundred percent.
Fear of what other people thinkis probably one of the biggest
mental traps.

It is Especially growing up.

I'm thankful we all grew up when we
did, though, and not right now.

Personally, I hate technology.

I can't imagine being fully immersed in
in technology, like from theget-go, like at least I feel
like we kind of like grew up atthe pace that it was getting
better, like we started off withterrible video games and like
no cell phones.
Then we, we get the firstincantations of cell phone, like
just as we're becoming oldenough.
And shit, mike, you're a littleolder, but still same shit.
You had very little technologyto now still be incompetent.

(58:08):
You're better with it than I am, dude.

I fucking lived through answering machines to
beepers, to phones.
I was just telling my kids it'slike y'all are fucked, your
generation's fucked, dude.
When I was in seventh grade,before school I'd put out frozen
meat and like think about howI'm going to go home and make
chili.
You know, and I would inseventh grade.
My fucking son is going intoeighth grade.

(58:32):
The motherfucker can't evenmicrowave hot dogs.
It's like bro you know, it'slike you guys are in trouble and
I try, I try.
It's my only job is to makesure that they can be productive
people, and I'm doing my part,bro, but it's just, I don't know
.
These generations, man, I'mgenuinely scared for them.

Technology is definitely a tool that we
can use, but it's a hindrance aswell.

Yeah, I do agree .

How old is your son?

He is nine.
He's going into fourth grade.

Okay, gotcha, how do you feel about
the?

school system nowadays.
You know it's.
I hate it actually.

Were you a good student or a bad student.

Me yeah, I was.

You had to have been good because you
weren't in any of the dumbclasses with me.

No, I wasn't dumb classes.
Actually, I did not give a shit.
School was the last thing on mymind.
I hated school.
I I was so consumed with thetrauma and shit going on at home
that like I couldn't even focusin school.
I I could not give it my time.
I was just thinking about whatwas I was going to deal with
when I got home or shit likethat all the time, because I my

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mom was I forget what she wasaddicted to some type of
narcotic at the time and I had alittle sister, and that my
house was just full of chaos.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:00:04):
So the last Are you the oldest sibling?
Huh, are you the oldest sibling.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:00:07):
Huh, are you the oldest sibling?
No, I have five siblings, and Ihave two older, I'm the middle
and then I have three younger.
It was a chaotic household forsure.
The last thing on my mind wasschool.
I did not give a fuck if Ifailed.
I couldn't.
That was just not my priorityat the time, and that's sad to

(01:00:31):
say that as a kid like I couldnot even enjoy being in school
because I was so worried aboutmy home life and what was going
on there.

That is sad and I'm sorry to deal with
that, but it seems like that'swhat put you on to your journey
of healing and whatnot andexactly what you are now.
But I could say myself, schoolwas definitely not uh fun or
enjoyable, so I don't think uhmissing out on the brainwashing
indoctrination society was uhthat big of a miss for you maybe

(01:01:02):
it's good to be conscious forit maybe it's good to be
conscious for it.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:01:09):
And they say, like kids that don't grow up and
get so trapped in with theschool system and all that are
meant for different things.
We're not meant to do that.
We're meant to change thefucking world.
And once I heard that I'm likefuck yeah, because I knew there
was a reason why I did not givea shit about any of this shit
that was being taught.
Maybe, just all a littleneurodivergent.

(01:01:31):
Even my son too.
He'll be like I don'tunderstand this.
Why are we going to this?
I don't get it.
I don't like it and I'm like Iknow, I know, and I would love
to homeschool him, but I just Ialways say when you're older and
you can be home alone and youcan do your work, I will pull
you out of school and you can behomeschooled, but until then

(01:01:52):
you got to go.
That's what I say to him.

I think the natural authority hater in
me and rebel just immediately,did not vibe and I used to like
cry over my homework and spazout over math problems and never
do any of my work.
And I wasn't like a bad kid, Ijust didn't do the work, I hated
it.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:02:11):
I couldn't focus .
Yeah, me too.
I wouldn't say I was a bad kideither.
I just said I never did myhomework.
I never did my homework ever.
I wasn't going to start now inhigh school.
Also, I was never taught to domy homework at home.
You know what I mean.
Like, I was never taught to sitdown and do this, so I never
gave a shit.

Honestly, what do you two think about
autism like?
Do you think, uh, it's overdiagnosed thing?
Do you think there's way morepeople getting autism because
they're poisoning us and shit?
Or yes, I think we're all alittle autistic because I feel
like I am legitimately like adhdautistic.
A little bit gotta be adhd, Idon't know, if that's real.

Donna Cabral (01:02:48):
I don't, I don't, I don't know if it is either,
but but I would say, I'm wireddifferently, for sure I do
believe autism is increasedbecause they're poisoning us
okay, I'm gonna tell you my takeon it.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:02:59):
Adhd, I feel like, is a made-up thing, but I
I believe that it is becausekids have so much energy,
they're vibrating at a higherfrequency than they were in the
past and instead of teachingchildren, like you know,
children should be runningaround.
They have all this energy.
They need to be used andthey're being forced to sit in a
chair, so of course, they'regonna freaking shove a pill down

(01:03:22):
their throat to make them focus.
But with autism, see, I don'tknow.
See, okay, this is my take onautism.
I feel like autism is somethingwe are brainwashed to believe
that is bad and just becausethey don't fit in the society
matrix, mold that they oh, mygod, my kid has autism, like

(01:03:45):
crying about it.
But also, if you've metsomebody with you know I don't
know the different levels ofautism, but like they're, they
radiate light, you know.
So how can I say that thatperson wasn't supposed to be
that person?
You know exactly the way theywere.
And then, in a book like winter,loris cannon channels people,

(01:04:08):
or channel information.
She says that if you want to umbreak out of your karma, you
can.
You can um incarnate into alife where you have autism or
where you're deaf or whereyou're blind, because you're
essentially breaking your karmawheel.
You know whatever it is that, Idon't even know that.

(01:04:30):
Whatever karma is, you'rehealing that by incarnating into
a life that is essentiallyharder.
But then I've also heard thatsay you've killed someone in a
past life, your son or somethingthat has autism that needs your
help to take care of for therest of your life is your karma

(01:04:51):
because you've killed thatperson.
So now in this life, you needto take care of that person wow,
that's wild.

I've never heard of that.
I wouldn't doubt it.
This shirt that I'm wearing islike some karma shirt.
It's a.
It's like a famous picture of alike a animal butcher.
That's a pig and he's likegoing after uh, the farmer.
And they say, like that,there's an alternate timeline.
I think it's like a hindumythology, where humans are the
prisoners of animals and humansare the the slaves of animals

(01:05:19):
for the way we treat them herekarma is another one that I
wonder about, though.

Right, because we always hear we always hear about
karma only one way.
We never hear about it theother way.
Like what about people that doall this really good shit?
How come they never get anyreally bad shit?
How come karma only works oneway?
You know, I don't know.
I think about weird things likethat, yeah, but I agree with
the ADHD.
It's like okay, hold on, youhave a young kid in a classroom

(01:05:47):
that's totally unnatural beingtaught something that's not
interesting by a teacher that'sunderpaid, and he doesn't lock
in immediately.
So we got to medicate him.
Like that's not, it's notnatural, right?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:05:59):
That's definitely not natural.

No, it's perfectly normal and clown world
.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:06:04):
Right, which is I'm such an advocate of teaching
people healing and how to dealwith your energy, because you
don't have to be on that type ofmedication for your child.
You can learn if, even like ameditation bath, I give my son
meditations bath when he'sfeeling overwhelmed or has too
much energy, and thatmotherfucker would come out of

(01:06:25):
that super relaxed and I'm justlike, if people just knew these
different techniques which youknow, it's not mainstream, it's
made more mainstream.
You know to shove a pill downyour throat, but if they just
knew these things, I just feellike the world would be so much
better well, that's exactly whythey don't want us to know it,
because they don't want us toknow human potential and, you

(01:06:47):
know, do things for ourselves.

They want subservient customer class
illusion that matrix systemalive.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:06:57):
I just cropped us.

I cropped us the shit out of my kids with weed
smoke to calm them down.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:07:02):
I'm just kidding I'm just kidding, I don't do
that hey, you're not the onlyparent that I know does that.
No, I'm just kidding, I don'tdo that.
Hey, you're not the only parentthat I know does that.
No, I'm just fucking around, Idon't.
I don't, but it would be funny.

Atlantis.
You said I'm sorry to cut youoff.

I was asking her if she believes in
Atlantis or a time that Earthwas a much more higher
vibrational planet or we were onsome more you spiritual like,
have you ever heard of tartaria?
Yes, do you believe thatsomething like that was real,
like an atlantean time or atartarian time, high spiritual?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:07:34):
yes, I do, and I also read about it in dolores
cannon's books too and one ofher books and lumaria and all
the other shit that was going onand that we've all lived past
lives.
I mean not everyone, but youknow majority of her subjects
that she was getting thisinformation from was from that

(01:07:55):
time period and how they talkedabout and then how it the
essentially what is in the bookis that the power was being
abused for sure for in anegative way.
So then they had to crumble thatexistence to start over that
story is in pretty much everymythology it's bob frazell, our

(01:08:16):
very first episode that's that'shis shit.

that's he.
That's exactly he talks about,like the ascended masters and
lemuria and the how theian whatdid he call it?
The Martian.
There's like a Martianrebellion that happened on Mars
and then that's where theLemurians came from down here.
His shit's amazing.
His books are really good, buthe was our very first guest.
Bob Frizzelli talks all aboutthat stuff.
It's so fascinating.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:08:41):
Yeah, it is really fascinating, it's
actually awesome and I believein it.
I believe in it 100%.
I there's people don't, that'sokay, but I do believe in and I
do believe, like I'm not sure ifit's Atlantis, but like where
the Bermuda Triangle is, theysay that a piece of land, I
don't, I'm not sure what timeperiod, maybe Lumeria or

(01:09:04):
Atlantis, whatever still existsdeep down in the ocean, which is
why that energy comes up andaffects planes when they drive
past.
Or people say that thingsdisappear and when they
disappear essentially what I'veread in books that they have
gone into a different timeperiod altogether.

(01:09:25):
I don't know.

Some sort of portal or some shit.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:09:29):
Yeah, there is a crystal down there, if you do
go on your journey to Peru.

There's plenty of fucking crazy
megalithic sites there and likethe cliffs and what is it like?
What's it called, mike?
What's the other?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:09:44):
ancient alien site.

It's Machu Picchu.
There's another one, though,too Kumapunku.
Is that also Peru?
I think so, and those placesthat they said was built by,
like, the cloud people, thegiants, or whatever.

And they built it all one night with these
megalithic stones.
They weigh some way 40,000fucking pounds, yeah, and it's
like eight thousand feet inelevation.
Come on, you know no wheels.
How did you do that you?
Know like tops of mountains.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:10:12):
Yeah, frequency, that's what I've heard, like
pyramids, that back then we weknew how to work with energy and
we can carry things with energyto sites.
That's's what I've heard.
I don't know if that's true.
I believe it more than usdragging these thousand-pound
pieces everywhere.

Yeah, the pyramids , dude, some of those stones
weigh 100,000 pounds and theywere cut from a quarry 500 miles
away.
So it's like how did you getthem there?
You know what?
You floated them 500 miles downthe nile.
Okay, sure, I'll give you that.
Then what then?
How did you move a hundredthousand pounds across the
fucking sand?
You know, on rollers?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:10:57):
come on, dude, sound levitation it was probably
so fucking hot, oh right right,yeah, I didn't even think of
that, the fucking sand.
Neither did I.
It just came to me now Likethat shit, it must have been
super fucking hot out there,right yeah, the giants.

Maybe Maybe I think giants are one of
my favorites as of late, thehidden archaeology and stuff.
Like there's all the oldaccounts or newspaper accounts
or photos, Like there's no realevidence to go off of, but
there's been plenty of storiesand anecdotes, Literally every
culture Like to me.
I'm pretty damn convinced thatgiants were a thing.

It's in the Bible.
It's right there in the BibleDavid and Goliath.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:11:42):
Yeah, I do believe that giants were a thing
, didn't they find like bighuman remains somewhere.

All the time in north america and europe
and mexico, and it's alwayscovered up.
It's a museum.
The smithsonian will alwaysconfiscate it and they magically
go missing and it's just morequestions than answers.
It goes against the educationthat we're taught about I don't
know, evolution or the big bangor whatever it right.
It throws off academia, so theydon't want to change the story

(01:12:11):
right, which will cause masschaos if they did I'm I'm
worried about the mass cast.
That could potentially notworried, because I'm not worried
at all.
I think it's a circus to me andI don't believe politics are
real.
Mike knows that.
Anyone who listens probablyknows that.
I think it's all fake, likevotes.
Votes don't matter, it's allpicked, they're all related, but
I think they're gonna stagesome bullshit on us again coming

(01:12:32):
up pretty soon.
I don't know what.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:12:34):
It's always fun to speculate, though yeah, and
I've heard like I mean cloning.
You know cloning that there'sso many types of.
You know joe biden's out thereand I don't pay attention to
shit, but like someone will posta picture and I'm like this
does not give me the same energythan the guy that I just saw in
the last picture I seen andshit like that.

I think there has been a couple of
different renditions of likefamous people that they brought
out multiple different clones.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:12:59):
Absolutely.

Or body doubles.
I mean, yeah, you didn't strikeme as someone who bought into
politics too well.
Do you think it's all fuckingfake?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:13:07):
Everything you said with, I agreed with Every
single thing.
Yeah, I don't pay attention.
It's rigged, it's bullshit,it's just a way to separate us
as human beings even more.

Divide and conquer .

Yeah, they have that in every single
possible aspect of it.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:13:23):
Mm-hmm.

Have you deep-dived any secret societies
like the masons and luciferiansand shit like that?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:13:32):
rosicrucians I have when I first started to
like go down this path, but Idon't anymore.
I'm more like not to come offbitchy, but like um, I'm just
focused on my reality.
Now you know, and I'm giving allmy attention into like who I
want to be and what I want tobecome and stuff like that, and
I get that like all that shitexists.

(01:13:53):
You know the evil out there,the reptilians, the Santanic
rituals that you know famouspeople are into, the politicians
are into yeah, I believe allthat shit, but it's going to be
there, regardless if I give itmy energy or not.
So I just for a while now Ijust don't care, you know, to

(01:14:15):
even pay attention to it or godown into it.

It's definitely.
It can get dark.
It can get dark and that's whyit is good to center it around
your own thing, because they aretrying to get our energy at
every turn.
To be honest, and sometimes meand mike will be middle of an
episode and I'm hearing thesepeople talk about some crazy
shit and I'm like, man, this iswild.
Sometimes you gotta justbalance it out.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:14:39):
So that's why we try to have the chill aspect of
it yeah, you have to, becausesometimes you'll get so into it
and sometimes I'll be riddled inanxiety from it and I'm like,
wait, I need to calm down, likethis shit is gonna exist with or
without you know me.
Let it just play out how it'smeant to play out in the world,
and it is what it is, and let mejust focus on me yeah, I do

(01:15:02):
like that because I'vedefinitely gone way too into
rabbit holes where you loseyourself and need to take a
break and same with, like Idon't want to get into the wars
and stuff, but people are likewhat are your thoughts on the
war?
and blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like honestly and Idon't mean this in a nasty way,
but it's, yes, people are dying,I get that, but it's in their
soul contracts, it's, it'salready meant to play out the
way it's supposed to play out.
It's it's, yes, people aredying, I get that, but it's in

(01:15:25):
their soul contracts.
It's already meant to play outthe way it's supposed to play
out.
It's going to be what it is toget people to awaken.
But I'm already at that stageto where I'm like, all right, I
get that, that's part of youknow, their reality and what
they need to go through, andthey signed contracts before

(01:15:47):
they were, you know, incarnatedto go through that, to wake the
masses or whatever the case is.
So I'm at the point where Ijust filter it out.
I just filter it out.
But a lot of people don't liketo hear that that's probably a
pretty healthy practice, to behonest because they say, like
even bashar when he talks aboutrealities, like there is a
reality out there that that shitdoesn't exist.
But the more you buy into it,the more it becomes your reality

(01:16:10):
.
So the more you shift yourfocus into a positive reality,
the more you're shiftingyourself to a parallel earth, to
where that shit doesn't exist,which is what you know we're
essentially doing with.
They say, like you know,everyone's waking up, people are
learning to heal.
That's the great awakening, theage of aquarius.
Whatever which is what we'reactually doing as in a
consciousness level, is justmoving to an earth that that

(01:16:37):
shit doesn't exist on do you gotany fast hacks?

because I'm trying to go there where
there's none of that bullshitand one where there's no fucking
taxes and technology and otherannoying fucking things.
How?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:16:47):
do I with with, not a planet where ai takes over
.
Just I would say keep yourvibration high, listen to those
frequencies, learn how to let gosit with yourself, meditate,
you know, do that.
People always don't want tohear that, but literally it's

(01:17:07):
changed my life.

I would not have anything I have today without
that have you um made him likehave you made amends with your
parents like are you guys onbetter terms now or no?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:17:19):
Yeah, that's awesome, yeah.
So when I first went down this,I was like hell, no, I'm never
talking to my mom again.
I don't give a fuck, you know.
And then, when you start toheal, I'm like, oh okay, like
she didn't have a good life, howcould she give me a good life,
you know, and you start to seeher as I don't.
I stopped viewing her assomeone above me that needed

(01:17:41):
that.
I was craving nurturing fromyou know.
And then now, like kind of theroles are reversed.
So she comes to me for healingor like with her problems, and
I'm like don't focus on that.
You know, like every honestly,that's how it is with my whole
family.
Now, like every honestly,that's how it is with my whole

(01:18:03):
family.
Now they come to me forguidance, I guess you can say,
rather than the other way around, and I never thought I would
get to that point.
And then, when I'm here, I'mlike oh damn, like there are
levels to this, because Ithought I was fine, you know,
just cutting her out of my life,because that's what most people
do, right?
They're like oh, negativity, letme cut that shit out of my life
, cause that's what most peopledo, right?
They're like, oh, negativity,let me cut that shit out of my
life.
But once you actually deep diveinto yourself and realize like,

(01:18:24):
oh, my mom, like she didn'thave anything good in her life
either, and I just see, like Ijust want to heal her, you know,
like, just help her see her ownworth, because how could she
think I was worthy or how couldyou know, how could she love me
the way I thought I deserved tobe loved as a child, if she

(01:18:44):
wasn't even loving herself?
And plus there were yeah, andplus there was five of us like
our.
Her tension was definitely allover the place, you know, with
us, with herself.
I cannot blame her for anythingthat she's done to me because,
honestly, it's made me who I amtoday and now I could help her
honestly.

The proverb I, like those who know,
must teach, so you're embodyingit, you're shedding, spreading
the info and you're giving itback to your family and got to
love it.

I had something real similar to when I got to a
certain age and maturity, when Irealized, just like you said,
when I realized that, oh, mymother is just a person, just
like me, with her own flaws andher own, her own issues, and
yeah, and once I realized that Iwas able to see things in a
different way and heal more.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:19:36):
you know, so true, so true yeah, you
definitely let go of that likeinner child trauma or shit that
you hang on to and it's honestly, it's liberating to, yes, not
feel that way anymore and notview them like in a negative
light.
She still drives me crazy, butyou know, I don't let it affect

(01:19:58):
me like I used to, like itdoesn't trigger me anymore.
I just I see her and I'll belike, okay, I see you need some
space, I'll let you have yourspace and we'll continue this
conversation when you're readybeing the conspiracy nut of the
family is always the pattern.

They laugh and they think you're nuts and
yeah, get the fuck out of here.
And then eventually, yeah, theydo come back for knowledge or
ask our opinion on things.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:20:25):
And that's how it was too.
When I first started, they werelike look at this bitch, what
the hell is she doing?
Why is she doing that?
She looks goofy as hell.
And now every single one ofthem come to me for something.

Gotta love it.
My family fucking turned itaround when the whole pandemic
shit happened.
Before they would always thinkI was a nut, and then they kind
of saw it in front of their eyesand they were, all you know, on
board with fuck the government,fuck everything.
Now it's a psy-op, yeah.

My family's still fucked.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:20:58):
Oh some.
Yeah, like family has disownedme because of my views when it
happened and shit, but honestlyI'm thankful like 2018, 2019, I
started to go down my spiritualawakening because if I didn't,
I'd probably still be fuckedlike everyone else in the world
so we should hopefully slowlyunfucking it.

(01:21:20):
That's the goal, right.

Yup, Got anything else.
Closing thoughts Donna, thiswas a great episode.
This was awesome yeah.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:21:27):
Thank you.
I do have one thing to shareabout aliens that keep coming up
in my head, because I didn'tshare it last time.
Have you heard about um, likepeople being getting x-rays done
and then they'll have like yeahyeah, that's wild uh-huh and in
um.
In the books that I've beenreading.
In dolores cannon's book shesays that they are to track and

(01:21:52):
to watch, um, what's going onhere, and you've essentially, on
a soul level, signed up forthat because your soul is part
of their soul group, whateveralien beings.
So in a way that it is, you'vesigned up for that.

You're their undercover human.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:22:12):
Yeah, yeah, basically living this human life
, cause you know, you forget whoyou are, where we're from, when
you incarnate and you thinkyou're that person.

You know, but you're so much more than
just that little human I can'tremember the guy's name, but
there was a doctor that haddocumentary where he removed
like dozens of those implantsmaybe michael now it was a
jeremy corbell film, it wascalled patient seven or
something like that.

Yeah, he removed something from him and uh, it
was lear lear dr lear was hisname too and yeah, he removed
and it was like metal thatwasn't like the fucking metallic
makeup of it wasn't from likethe isotopes weren't from earth.
So it's like, right, what isthat, dude?
What is that?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:22:55):
so does that make you still not believe in
aliens?

no, I, I just, I definitely believe in
something.
It's just for the longest timeI believed in aliens as okay,
they're from fucking mars,they're from a galaxy far, far
away, that this, that.
Now I think that they're moreso like some sort of spiritual
entity or they're.
Maybe they are an alien, butthey're an alien that, like,
lived on earth or in inner earthor something before us who the
fuck knows.

(01:23:18):
I, I just know that, uh, we'vebeen lied to about a lot, so I
don't know what to believe yeahI get that there's something,
there's definitely non-human, uh, entities.
I don't know what to call them,though, but if the government
wants me to think that they'rein ufos and they're going to
come be our friends, then I'mgoing to tend to not believe
that.
I don't know, it's probablygood and bad ones.

(01:23:39):
For sure I I flip-flop mythoughts all the time.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:23:42):
Yeah, as anyone with open mind should right,
right, because that's how youstay open exactly.
You gotta question your ownbeliefs last I got one more I
got one more question for donna.

Do you think that we are living in a simulation?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:24:00):
Absolutely.

Yeah, I do too Something like that, if we
can change realities anddimensions and stuff.

Elon Musk convinced me that we were living
in a simulation and it was real.
Simply, and I'll keep it quick,he basically said that okay,
humans, what we do is we improveupon things, we make things
better, right, so even if youassume we get better, at a 0.01.
Eventually, we'll get to apoint where reality is

(01:24:28):
indistinguishable from anythingand we progress at a much faster
rate than that.

So, yeah, I think we're in a fucking
simulation well, elon wants toput a chip in all of our heads,
so I don't really care.

He's a fucking weirdo.
For that he is a weirdo.
He's smart, though.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:24:46):
Yeah, they say he's.
I mean I've heard like he'spart reptilian.
I don't know.

He seems like a likely candidate if we're
going to pick a few out.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:24:55):
Yeah.

Him and Zuckerberg.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:25:02):
Definitely out.
Yeah, him and zuckerbergdefinitely.
Where can the listeners keep upwith you, donna, on my
instagram page at the warrior?

goddess underscore.
Do you have an art store?
Our youtube channel?
Any plans to start your ownpodcast, etsy?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:25:12):
you know I've etsy is something I've messed
around with before.
I do have a page on myInstagram on my Instagram but I
I haven't put any of my artstuff on there, it's more of my.
I make spray bottles, ofprotection spray.
I have those, I have energyspray and I have a bath salt mix
that should help you releasesome stuck energy within the

(01:25:35):
body.
So that's that's my thing, thatI've been working on more
holistic healing products.
That I've been doing and that'slinked up to my Instagram page.

Badass.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:25:45):
Thank you.

Hell, yeah , everyone, be sure to check
that out, give her a follow andyeah, if you got anything else
you want to say, go for it.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:25:54):
Just live your best life and know that you're
worthy, love it Of anything youwant to do in life 100%.

That's why I knew you'd be good on this
episode, so thank you for doingthis.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:26:08):
Thank you for having me.

Donna.

Cabral.

Yeah, the warrior goddess on Instagram.
Warrior goddess underscore Aalumni of mine but, like we said
, said never actually talked toher.
Just seeing that she also postsgoofball, nut, crackpot, schizo
, fucking conspiracy content, soit seemed like a no-brainer.
I should reach out.

Well, to be fair, though, if you would have even,
like, let's say, you guys talkeda lot in high school, it
wouldn't even have been the sameperson.

It sounds like yeah and I was very much
the same person as far as, likefighting, fucking combat,
lifting, you know, like thattype of shit, uh, but my beliefs
, no, I was way more likeclosed-minded for sure, like I
didn't know shit about the world.
I was a teenager, just like, oh, that's fake, oh, that's not
real, like I was still intoparanormal stuff and still I
guess me.
But yeah, no, I dude, I'm afterhigh school.

(01:26:58):
I just woke up to the realityof the world, like trying to be
an adult, like and thrown intomoney, fucking make a living, do
some shit, get a fucking job,like immediate.
Just no, it was a harsh wake-upcall.
And fuck this, dude, everythingsucks.
Why is everything like this?
I don't want to fucking justslave away.
So it's now slave away till Idie or I'm retired, like we're
just gonna do this the next 35years, like, uh, okay yeah,

(01:27:22):
that's it, man.

She took it a lot of different directions too.
You know we come.
I feel like we covered a lot ofdifferent topics.

You did a really good job running it too
definitely, and it is a goodchange of pace to talk to a girl
because we've had plenty offucking maybe not repetitive.
Not repetitive but similar uh,you know, perspectives, granted,
we have a large variety ofguests but a lot of, uh you know
, repeating themes and masculinethemes.

(01:27:50):
And girls are, I think, morespiritually uh, sensitive women
are definitely more uh in tunewith spirit, world or, I guess,
emotions and stuff, especiallybecause motherhood they have to
read the babies without words,like they have to understand and
be intuitive and empathetic of,like others, feelings and stuff

(01:28:12):
.

And yeah, it's it's just a good change of pace
to have.
Yeah, yeah, it definitely is,dude, Even, like you said, just
guess with different viewpoints.
It's always good.
It's always good to explore allthe different options, because
you got to keep your fuckingoptions open.
You got to know both sides ofthe argument, or all sides of an

(01:28:33):
argument, whether it'sstrengthen yours or look for new
information, whether it'sstrengthen yours or look for new
information.
You know and yeah, I thinkthere is something to that about
women having like a softer,more intuitive side to them.
You know that lends to a uniqueviewpoint.

We're getting in touch with our
feelings on the show now, guys.

Yeah, we are.
We need to get with the times.
You know what's crazy.
What's that?
Whenever I would have to quitusing heroin.
One of the things you gothrough when I would say, maybe
like day three, it starts and itlasts, maybe to like day 10, is
you get so emotional, bro?
Like there would be times whena fucking commercial would come

(01:29:15):
on and I would fucking getteary-eyed bro and I'm like what
the fuck is wrong with me.
Dude, that's funny.
You couldn't help it, thoughit's because you know like
you're a zombie, you know you'reemotionless and then you stop
using it.
It's all floods back to you bro.
Yeah, it's just, I used to hatethat.
I'd be like why am I crying?
It's a fucking paper towelcommercial.

You know, that's funny as fuck I remember
one of my tattoo artists told methis was probably around the
time when I was first going,like vegetarian.
He's like, yeah, I did it for awhile, but he's like I stopped.
His reason for stopping wasfunny.
He said he stopped because hestarted getting emotional over
different things and like themovie up he was watching, like
the movie up or like some other,like silly, like child pixar

(01:29:57):
movie or something, and hestarted like crying over it and
he's like what is happening?
I I wonder, because I I feelpretty soft emotionally
sometimes too, like I would get,uh, inspired, teary-eyed over,
not like some movie or some,over more.
So like that I'm doing in mypersonal life or whatever, like,
I guess, profound stuff that Iwas felt like I was meant to do
or like, holy, I was actuallydoing this, but I don't know,

(01:30:21):
maybe it is being vegan, somehowI got a little softer okay,
whatever.

So we're recording this on 7 24, and I say that
because earlier today I'mwatching Embedded 3- the third
episode of Embedded for UFC 304,which which is the main event
which is going to be LeonEdwards and Bilal Muhammad.
So by the time this is out,this is going to be old news,

(01:30:46):
but for the sake of thisconversation, I was watching
that episode today and whenBilal Muhammad started to get
emotional about the kid that hesaved, I started to fucking tear
up and almost bawl.
And that's what a I am dude.
You know what I mean.
Like I couldn't even.
That's just a touching thing,dude.
There's something about seeinga grown man cry that is hard to

(01:31:11):
not like a grown man, but like aguy like belal muhammad, like
that.
When you see someone like himcry, it's like it hits me hard,
dude, cuz it's like you know howstrong that dude is, you know.

I got.

I'm so excited it's for this fucking fight.

I know, I know me too, bro.
It's like a fight against thesystem we should have her on
again.

Definitely have her on again, dude.
You know that mean it doesn'tneed to be, you know, next week
or anything, but I'm sure she,she's probably.
She seems like the kind ofperson that is always seeking
new information.
So if we had her out in acouple months, I'm sure it'd be
a completely differentconversation you know Definitely
, and I'm sure there'll be,hopefully.

I don't know how many female listeners
we got, since you're the one wholooks at our numbers.
I can't tell if they're female,though.
There or female there could be.
It doesn't say in like thedemographics, no, it just says
like what country.
Okay, um, because I thinkyoutube says youtube definitely
says if so, if you looked at theyoutube studio, it would tell
you if the viewers are female ormale.
And uh, I was gonna say is, ifwe do have any female listeners

(01:32:13):
which I'm not uh too inclined tobelieve for any reason maybe
they'll be calling for bringingher back or, uh, other female
guests.
I don't, I don't have any leadson any others at the moment,
but, uh, we are definitely opento it yeah, I don't.

There's not too many females that really are
prevalent in this genre, butthere's there are some.

There are some and you know spiritual side
of things for sure oh yeahmaybe not overtly conspiracy,
but uh, alternative thinking,spirituality, no doubt you know
it'd be a fucking cool one likebucket list.

One dude is linda molten.
How?

uh, what is her exact?
Some some of the names of likepeople in the conspiracy world I
don't always remember, but I'msure I always have come across
their work more.

She's the cattle mutilation, okay she's a number
one expert on cattle mutilation.
She's been studying them sincethe 80s and she does UFO shit
too.
She's like real, real, big timeas far as like women go on that
side of things, notspirituality, but actually
conspiracy-type shit.

We've got a backlog to load up on.
I got a couple more leads.
Yeah, mike Davis threw a fewgood people.
Mike, we could always get Mikeback on.

Yeah, yeah, I think returning guests.

Any of the listeners out here want to hear
.
Let's go.

I want to get.
Uh, I saw Mike Davis had DanHenderson on.
That's pretty sick.
I'd love to fucking talk to DanHenderson dude.

Hey, sam Tripoli, if you're hearing this,
stop giving me the hot girltreatment.
I doubt you're listening to it,since you're blue balling me
and us about coming on the show.
He's a fucking big brother ofus dude.
Somebody send this to Sam.
He's hot girling us.

Yeah, right, I mean, hey, this is all I'm going
to say.
If a motherfucker volunteers tocome on a show, okay.
So you're gonna think, okay,this dude's gonna do a show,
cool.
It's like we didn't ask.
You know, we didn't ask, themotherfucker offered it, and now
that motherfucker's making usfeel weird about it, so it's, I

(01:34:17):
don't know.
That just rubs me the wrong way, you know, just fucking say no
dude just fucking.

You know, I don't know whatever no hard
feelings.
It's a busy.
It's a busy industry.
I still have a hard timeletting go of them.

Grudges, bro.
I still work on that one it'shard to not think.

Take things personally shit.

Everything is personally.
What's the opposite publicly?
Yeah, I guess shit everything'spersonal to me, bro.
You know like for real I takeeverything personal and I know I
shouldn't because I knoweverything deep down.
I know everything isn't but Ifeel like it is, if that makes
sense.
You know it's more personal tothe sender.

(01:34:57):
Yeah, all these fucking deepphilosophical kind of concepts
is the theme of this episode.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:35:03):
You know which is cool.

It's fun to, I love exploring this shit, you
know, because it's like I don'tknow.
I just I have ideas, I'vethought about it, just like you
have, and it's fun to bouncethese ideas off of you know, you
and donna and me, and it's kindof fun because I'm sure we all
came out of this episode withtweaked opinions on what we had
thought before.
Everyone's a little differentin every conversation.

(01:35:26):
It really is yeah, this was anunexpectedly awesome one dude.
Not that I thought it was goingto be terrible, but you know
it's just some.
You go and think, okay, we'regonna do a cool part, we're
gonna do a podcast, and but thenwhen it gets done you're like,
oh, this one was fucking reallygood.
You know definitely some someflow better than others yeah, no
doubt, no doubt, some are wayeasier to edit because we're

(01:35:47):
still figuring this shit out andsometimes, like I said, in in
the middle of it.

Sometimes it's not like we've had anything
too dark or whatever, butsometimes I'm like in awe of the
crazy shit I'm hearing, likeholy fuck, like I'm like I love
this type of shit, and now we'rewe're dead in the middle of it,
like I'm talking to someone I'dbe listening to if I wasn't
talking to them, or some shitright, yeah, I get um.

I don't really get starstruck, you know, by by
anybody, but man, the first timethat we had fucking bart
sabrell on dude, I was like thisis fucking awesome like this is
bart sabrell you know yeah ithappens.

Yeah, I wouldn't say starstruck, but
it's a right good perspective.
I always wanted to be somefucking conspiracy nut weirdo,
right it's fun.

It is fun.
Yeah, and you said we got acouple other people we're
working on.
Uh, my new tattoo artist,fucking huge conspiracy, dude,
bro.
He brought up tatari, he up thefucking mudbloods, the 30-foot
doors, bro.
He was just going up.
Okay, now his position on Trumpis that he's God's chosen one.

Oh, my God .

So it'll be a fun one to have him on too and hear
him go.
But he's knowledgeable bro.
It'll be a fun one, It'll bewild, I'm sure.

But that's what we do here.
Definitely, let's go.
Your listeners know where tofind us.
Yeah, they do well.
Instagram head hunter higgins,sub up mike two truth seekers
for the podcast page that wedon't post on very much,
admittedly.
I'll take responsibility forthat.
That's the one tech thing Ishould handle on for the show

(01:37:19):
that I don't.
But youtube, spotify, all thelistening platforms give us the
five-star review.
Hit us up, yes, and if you wantto be a guest?

yes, or you know somebody that wants to be a
guest, or you know somebody thatyou think would be a good guest
, or you want us to be a guest.
Just listen.
If you want to fucking get ahold of us, shoot us an email
conspiracy and chill yahoocom.
Yeah, we appreciate the loyal,uh contingent of listeners that
we've had from almost day one.
Keep doing what you guys aredoing.

(01:37:51):
As tom said, the five-starreviews they really help kind of
move it along and you know,just say algorithm.
Yes, you just got it makes yousound smart, like you know what
you're talking about you know,it's like megapixels algorithm
megapixels, I'm smart, I'malmost at a thousand subs on my
regular youtube channel.

So let's go well that's good, dude
thousands.

That's like the first, the first big hurdle.
You know, we got like 112 rightnow on our YouTube channel.
Go check out my headhunter.

Higgins for any of our martial arts
enjoyers.

Yes, all right.
So this was Donna Cabral, yourformer classmate.

Now schizo friend.

Yeah, yeah, good episode, though, dude, she seems
like a very cool girl.
You know, definitely yeah, sheseems like a cool girl you know,
she like, like a girl you couldjust kind of like kick it with
and fucking.
You know like bullshit aboutcrazy ideas, and what more could
you ask for, right?
Well, uh, you got.
Anything else it's it for mestay away from power files.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:38:57):
Thank you, I'm out.

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