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August 28, 2024 76 mins

Martial arts legend Erik Paulson joins us to recount his student’s dramatic million-dollar victory at CJI, a major grappling event. Eric breaks down the intense dynamics of the matches and proposes intriguing new rules to keep the sport evolving.

Our journey doesn't stop there; we venture into the mystical world where martial arts and spirituality intersect. Personal experiences with haunted spaces, spiritual attachments, and elemental spirits like fairies and djinn are just the tip of the iceberg. Eric shares gripping stories about supernatural events, like the chilling tale of demon possession in Mexico and the frantic search for spiritual intervention. Through these narratives, we underscore the importance of spiritual well-being and the age-old battle against dark forces.

And if you thought that was all, think again. We explore awe-inspiring tales of miraculous healings and spiritual transformations, from blind women regaining sight to wheelchair-bound individuals walking effortlessly. Eric recounts a remarkable encounter with Hollywood star Jason Momoa, leading to an unexpected friendship forged over archery and axe throwing. Finally, we tantalize your curiosity with a speculative discussion about Erik's potential performance in UFC 1, teasing an open-ended part two that's sure to keep you on the edge of your seat. Join us for an episode rich with conspiracy theories, martial arts wisdom, and spiritual encounters that promise to leave you questioning the very fabric of reality.

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"$awbuck" Mike (00:01):
The Nephilim sightings are going to start
soon.

"Headhunter" Higg (00:04):
Consciousness has been enslaved.

"$awbuck" Mike (00:06):
Your consciousness does not need your
physical body to survive.
It's the thing that's necessary.
It has to be there.
It's the coding that projectsthis world we currently live in.
I want you to read the Bible.

Erik Paulson (00:19):
We got reptilians just outside of our frequency
zone, six dimensional beings,the ancient builder race.
Ideas are the highest form ofintelligence, and that leads you
to truth and clarity.

"$awbuck" Mike (00:30):
The Nephilim sightings are going to stall
soon.
Conspiracy show.
It's obvious the aliens aregod-fearing insanely huge, or
just one planet.

Erik Paulson (00:38):
They would have needed a minimum of six feet of
lead sheathing in order to getthrough the 25 000 mile thick of
nl and radiation belt.
This is real.
They really did fake the moon.
The world is infinitely olderthan that, and I mean the world
with human beings in it, skulland bones is like one of the
villains in the legion of doom,they said.

"Headhunter" Higgins (00:57):
I'll let you read the bible the biblical
flood, the tartaria mud floodconspiracy and chill the
nephilim sightings are going tostart soon.
The Bulldog Ball I want you toread the Bible.
There's magnets in thebasketballs.
There was a political party, athird party Called the
Anti-Masonic Party.
At a point in the United States, the Global Pandemic Treaty

(01:19):
Conspiracy and Chill Podcast.
We've got a long sought afterguest and I want to thank him
for opening the doors to his gymearlier this year and teaching
me and letting me train at hisgym.
It was one of the bestexperiences I've had.
Thank you for coming on theshow.
Eric Paulson a legend.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:40):
My pleasure.
Thanks for having me on, guys.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:41):
My pleasure, thanks for having me
on, guys, of course, and youjust got back from probably the
biggest grappling event inhistory, arguably, where your
student won the million dollarprize.
What was?

"$awbuck" Mike (01:54):
that like Congrats.
It was weird.
I got back and I didn't evenreally realize because it was so
crazy I had cornered sixmatches.
Each match is three five minuterounds.
I had cornered six matches.
Each match is three five-minuterounds.
Allie was five five-minuterounds and Ty.
In his second match versus Levi,he had a leg entanglement and

(02:16):
he tore out of it.
He tried to pull and twist andI think Levi kept holding his
heel so he torqued his own knee.
And halfway through the matchCade goes.
He's hurt and obviously Cadeand Ty they're mere twins, so
they know each other so well.
And he looked at him and hejust said, yeah, this is an

(02:41):
uphill battle right now.
I mean just will and grit rightnow is going to get him through
it and unfortunately he lost.
He lost to Levi and then in thegrand finale, after the most
unbelievable match with Tackettoh my gosh, that was crazy, wow,

(03:03):
yeah.
And after that he had a littlebit of a break and then he was
back out for the grand finaleand that was a five, five minute
round.
It was kind of lacklusterbecause levi kept sitting on his
butt but and how could youfollow up that other match?
yeah, and and he said, they said, why don't you stand up and

(03:26):
grapple?
He goes well.
If I'm winning this way, whydon't I just continue to do what
I'm doing?
And you know, we were justtalking about it.
There needs to be some sort ofrule of engagement that you just
can't just sit on your ass andstart scooting in, you know.
Just sit on your ass and startscooting in, you know.
You know, I think you should berequired to engage in some sort

(03:49):
of takedown somehow, you know.
Or even if you just tie him upand pull him on your guard,
something like that, you know,Do you think the solution could
be the pin.
What's that?

"Headhunter" Higgins (04:00):
Do you think the solution, the pin?

"$awbuck" Mike (04:02):
Oh, that could be.
Yeah, the pin could.
That would change the entiregame, because none of the guys
practice that unless they comefrom a wrestling background.
So I would like to see more ofthese high-level jiu-jitsu guys
start going into catch wrestlingtournaments and seeing if
they'll just submit everybody orif they'll get pinned just to

(04:24):
learn that aspect.

"Headhunter" Higgins (04:26):
Definitely what I'm trying to promote too.
I want to see the same thing.

"$awbuck" Mike (04:29):
Yeah, so you know it's like at our gym we
primarily work submission,wrestling and jiu-jitsu.
We don't practice the pins somuch until the tournament's
coming up, and then I'll have,you know, know, five specialists
come in and teach theirfavorite way to pin somebody,
and and then we work for the pin.

(04:49):
But other than that, yeah, wedon't really address the pins so
much.
I know, in the old days the uhit used to be called, they used
to be called punishment holds,and you know what they were used
for.
They were used for thewrestlers that were stalling.
They put a punishment hold onthem to get them to move.

(05:12):
They would torque them in orderto get them on their back and
to submit them.
So the submissions were usedmore so just to punish them for
stalling and then also to movethem, kazushi them into
positions so they could getpinned.
Interesting right.

"Headhunter" Higgins (05:31):
For sure, and you're involved in just
about every martial art.
I could think of A question Idefinitely wanted to ask you,
even though it's probably a hardone for you what do you think
is your favorite that you'vetrained or practiced, excluding,
like you know, mixed martialarts or systems that kind of
include everything Like whatwould be your favorite?

"$awbuck" Mike (05:49):
Well, I like Shudo.
I like Shudo because it's acomplete art.
It's punching, kicking,throwing ground and pound and
submission and it was thepredecessor before the UFC.
I mean, they were establishedin 1984.
And Sensei Yuri Nakamura was achampion back then 85, I think,

(06:14):
84, 85.
And then he came over toAmerica and started teaching it
in 1987.
And then in 1988, he had hisfirst seminar to introduce it to
the public.
And I was on my way to the jetcenter and I trained to get a
private lesson with benny thejet and then when I left there I
drove by the inosano academybefore I went back to palm palm

(06:38):
desert where I lived and I saidI wonder what's going on at the
inosano Academy.
So I drove by and I saw thisposter with Tsutsu Yuri doing
punching, kicking and thengrabbing a guy and then
suplexing him and thensubmitting him.
I go, man, that looksinteresting.
And it was punch, kick, salto,submit.

(06:59):
And I took the first seminarwith him in 1988, but I started
jujitsu in 1986 when I wastraining JKD in Tim Tackett's
garage in Redlands.
I was teaching Taekwondo andboxing and then I would drive to

(07:20):
Redlands on Wednesday night forthe Wednesday night JKD group
to Redlands on Wednesday nightfor the Wednesday night JKD
group and it was Tackett TimTackett, mr Tackett Sifu, that
said, hey, there's a new martialart in town.
Have you heard of these guys?
They're from Brazil and theyhave an open challenge.
They'll fight anybody to provethat their art is the strongest
and the best.
And this is in 1985, 86.

(07:41):
And they said, hey, we're allgoing to pitch in and we're
going to buy you a privatelesson to see what it's like.
And so I took a private withHorian and I didn't know what
was going to happen, but it waspretty much just like OK, if I
grabbed you, like this.
And he grabbed my lapel and hesaid what would you do right

(08:05):
here?
And I go, what would I do?
And he goes, yeah, so I goon,tinged him, I hit his bicep, I
go bang, bang.
And then I I jabbed him likethree times Simulation obviously
and he goes okay, okay, that's,that's tough, that's mean, but

(08:27):
let's say I don't need my eyesto fight.
And I was like what?
And he goes yeah, what if I,what if?
I told you, if I just put myhands on you, I could beat you?
Without having any visionwhatsoever, and I was like wow.
So then he took me down andsubmitted me just to prove the
point and it was justinteresting.
He was just like, okay, butlet's say I'm tough.
And I was like, well, still afinger in the eye, that's not.

(08:48):
You know, you could be as toughas a nail.
A grain of sand in your eyemesses you up, let alone a
finger right.
So that was my first lesson and, uh, so it was actually very
intriguing what the way hepresented the private lesson and
then then we got to do someground techniques and then he
let me put a submission on himand he said Okay, I must stop,

(09:11):
you're already learning the art.
And he goes I can't wait to seeyou next time.
And then he gave me a hug and Ileft and I go Wow, that's
amazing, nobody's ever trainedme like that.
And then gave me a hug.
I was like that's crazy.
So I immediately fell in lovewith it and I went back and
started going regularly and thatwas 1986 and 87, 88 and then in

(09:36):
about 89 well, let's see.
So 88, 88's when I took theshootout seminar and yuri.
So I was already training withHickson, because I took a
private with Hickson and I wastraining with Boyce and then
Hoyce said hey, you got to makea choice, it's either.
Hoyce said they got to make achoice.
He said it's either me or mybrother.

(09:57):
And I said he said you can onlyplay on one football team at
once.
And I go how about team Gracie?
And he goes no, no, we'reseparate, so you're either with
him or me.
And I said well, I, I want tofight someday.
And uh, I, I really want toroll as much as I can, so I want
more ground stuff, not justself-defense stuff.

(10:18):
And he said well, then, maybemy brother would be better for
you, because that's all heteaches, he doesn't teach
self-defense.
So I took a prior with Hicksonand then that's when I changed
over.
But you know, I learned all theself-defense from voice.
And it's funny because a lot ofguys never learned the.
Today they learn sport,jiu-jitsu, but they never
learned the self-defense system,you know.

"Headhunter" Higgins (10:49):
And I still think it was really good
and relevant.
It's good to teach a normalperson, especially the way
things are going today right, nodoubt, especially in chicago
right now as we speak.

"$awbuck" Mike (10:54):
Yeah, so, uh, unfortunately, they didn't teach
us how to dodge bullets, but uh, you know, the self-defense
hand-to-hand aspect is reallygood, so I like that.
Sword and shield days, yeah,well, that's what's happening in
england, right, stabbing, yeah,because they don't have guns.

Erik Paulson (11:11):
I'd rather be shot .
Yeah, yeah please.

"$awbuck" Mike (11:16):
I mean, you saw, like what was happening up in
uh, where chris crossan's at, inthat area these guys are all
taken to the streets andeveryone was scared for their
lives.
And then what happened?
Apparently what happened, itwas mostly the Muslims.
And then what happened is a lotof the Brits got together like

(11:38):
a lot of the homies andapparently what Chris said is a
lot of the skinheads came out ofthe woodwork Wow, yeah, the
full blown white supremacists.
And they were going knocking.
They were going pub to publooking for these guys and
knocking on doors where theyknew there were Muslim families.

"Headhunter" Higgins (11:59):
That's madness.

"$awbuck" Mike (12:00):
Yeah, and it was getting like because, because
they were, they were surprisedat this.
It was like a surprise attackwhere all the muslims showed up
with which was, uh, a lot in thepark and they just started, you
know, attacking everybodythat's exactly what they wanted,
right in my opinion.
Yeah a couple stabbings.

(12:21):
Separation is the biggest thing, Exactly.

"Headhunter" Higgins (12:24):
More and more division, yeah.

"$awbuck" Mike (12:26):
It's the worst thing ever, you know.
Ultimately, if there was ahorrible earthquake or a volcano
erupted, it wouldn't matterwhat color, race or creed you
were, because people would belooking out for other human
beings or life, animals,whatever, so you wouldn't care.
It's just, I don't know.
It's a polarization of all the,whether it's religion or

(12:51):
politics.
That's the other thing too.
Like I have friends that areopposite ends of the political
thought pattern than I am,they're still my friends, but
it's really hard to have a validdiscussion with them because
they get pissed off, they getangry and you can't really talk
about it.
Or they say it's all bullshit,or it's all conspiracy bullshit.

(13:13):
And I told them, I said listen,the biggest thing you guys need
to know is in 2025, there'sgoing to be a shortage of
conspiracies.
You guys know that right,because they all came true,
they're all coming true.
And so I kind of gotpigeonholed and put in the
category.

(13:37):
One of my friends from Canadasaid that he's put me in the
category of Joe Rogan and EddieBravo, and then another guy,
when Half Gracie punched Flavio,punched his teeth out, you know
, or kicked his teeth out FlavioAlomera, because he said, hey,
this is my territory.
No, gracie Baja's around my gymand they're like OK, ok, good,

(14:01):
we understand that.
And then all of a sudden theyjust opened right by his gym, so
that was something that hadbeen said.
Good, we understand that.
And then all of a sudden theyjust opened right right by his
gym, so that that was somethingthat had been said.
So he went back to the old daysand said hey, you didn't honor
your words.
And and instead of business,he's like first of all, you
didn't honor your words.
So here here's a five-piececombo and a couple uh boots to

(14:22):
the teeth.
And so he got in trouble forthat.
But then this guy goes man, hewas crazy.
And then this other guy goes,eddie Bravo's crazy.
It was just on a thread, out ofnowhere, they were talking
about health, kicking Flavio'steeth in, and then all of a
sudden, then they were talkingthat Eddie, they threw Eddie in
there, that he was crazy.

(14:42):
And then this guy I think itwas one of Eddie's guys go well,
eric Paulson's, batshit crazy.
And I was like how did I getthrown into this?
I had nothing to do with any ofit.

"Headhunter" Higgins (14:52):
Well, that's exactly where I was
hoping to steer this episode,Eric, and we certainly don't
think you're crazy, but beingconsidered crazy by others is a
compliment in this community.
Yeah well, and why you did getthrown in there.
What was the original thingthat people were like, oh,
Eric's crazy, and I know andespecially if you're going to
your gym, the spiritual side ofmartial arts is that something
that was always with you fromthe beginning?

(15:15):
Because not a lot of peoplecare about that.

"$awbuck" Mike (15:17):
I know, yeah, for me, when I was a little kid,
I already knew about God.
When I was a little kid, Ialready knew about God.
When I was little, my momspanked me and I barely talked
and I go, god's watching you andshe's like what the hell?
You're hardly two years old,you know.
I didn't even know you couldtalk, but it was just weird.

(15:37):
I just thought about that today.
I've always known, I've alwaysfelt his presence, which is all
around us, all knowing, allseeing.
One time, when I was goingthrough a divorce, I woke up in
the middle of the morning at 4am and there was a four foot eye
above my head.
I looked left, it looked left,I looked right, it looked right.

(15:58):
I blinked, it blinked and I waslike, how is there a four foot
eye?
It was like a remote drone ofan eye above my head.
That was my eye, but it wasn'tmy eye.
But I saw this huge eye aboveme and I was like what the hell
was that?
I had no idea what that wasCrazy.

(16:19):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, maybe it was just asign to let me know that I was
being watched or or looked afterbecause I was going through a
hard time, you know, a heartachesituation.
But, um, so I think, because Ifought, I always had that I, I
was, I kind of had a wild, crazyside and uh, there was nothing

(16:41):
refined about anything.
You know, refinement came lateron in my life.
So I kind of was wild and I wasalways late and they were going
to make a shirt that saidwhere's Eric?
Because you know, I would justwalk into the airport with like
three minutes left, walk rightthrough the airport and walk

(17:02):
right on the airplane and go,hey guys, and they were closing
the door and I would do that allthe time.
And so you know, I um, there'snothing to brag about, by the
way, but uh, when he's supposedto well, yeah.
So I mean, I, I always pusheverything to the limit, so I
tried to.
I tried to do as much as Ipossibly could before I had to

(17:23):
go get on an airplane.
So like one time I missed myfirst flight.
So I go, well, shit, I got anhour and 15 minutes.
That gives me an hour.
I go, omar, because my friendOmar Boish from Sweden was
dropping me off.
I go, hey, I got an hour and ahalf.
Let's go hit some balls.
He goes what I go?

(17:45):
Let's go to the driving range.
It's right right up the road.
So we went to the driving rangeand we hit a bucket of golf
balls and then I go, I still gotabout a half hour.
Let's go bowling.
So we went across the streetand we bowled, we bowled like
three, three rounds and then Igot a little sandwich and I go,
I better head back to theairport.

(18:06):
And he was sitting there justgoing how did you do that?
And I go, it's called timemanagement Half hour for golf,
25 minutes for bowling, and thenI got a sandwich in the last
five minutes to go, perfect.
So it's things like that.
But as far as the spiritual sideof stuff, um, I was talking on

(18:30):
budo videos.
I did a, I did an interview forbudo um for rolled up, and I
was saying that some of the bestguys that I've trained are the
guys that have their shittogether, that aren't out
chasing women every night andgoing out to bars and partying
all the time.
These guys are showing up topractice sober, uh, regularly,

(18:52):
and and I said a lot, a lot ofthe easiest guys that I can
train that I said some of themare christians but some of them
are married and so you knowthey're not single out chasing
women and and, uh, you know,going out all the time.
So I said those are, those areeasier guys to train with.
And so somebody misconstruedthat I said if they're not a

(19:14):
christian, I won't roll withthem.
And I said well, they said isit true you don't roll with
people?
I go, yeah, because some ofthese guys are big time partiers
and and you know they'regetting lap dances regularly and
I don't know what they'repulling off for these people.
These I mean you know you couldgo.
You could go to a bar and hangout in a bar.

(19:36):
You could go to a haunted houseand and pick up spiritual
energy.
You're getting crap on you.
And so what happens is itattaches to you.
And what I didn't know is Ifigured it out later that I so
anytime I'd roll with somebodywho had an attachment.
It was on me.

(19:56):
So I went home with nightmares.
I had nightmares all the timewhen I was training and fighting
because I would touch so manypeople.
Plus, I was a massage therapist, so I massaged a lot of people,
every one I put my hands on.
I'd pull their crap off of them.
And then also I was a bartender.
You can't tell me that there'snot spiritual activity going on

(20:17):
in bars.
People are getting drunk andwhatever.
So that's kind of what happened, and I think that was
misconstrued and taken the wrongway.
So, yeah, the answer is yes.
I chose not to roll with somepeople, but I used to roll with
everybody, because that's whatyou do you just roll as much as

(20:37):
you can.
Whoever wants to roll, justroll.
And then later on I couldn'tunderstand.
So I had a haunted house, ahaunted apartment.
When I got married, my firstwife she's from Australia and I
was living in an apartment, andboth of my apartments were super
haunted.
And so I had a guy who killedhimself in my room.

(21:03):
His ghost was still in ourapartment and he was messing
with me and he kept calling hername and when I was gone he
would hide her keys.
And she had a bowl of cereal.
She puts a cereal bowl downfull of Cheerios.
She goes to grab a napkin orsomething.

(21:27):
It gets, comes back and herspoons gone.
She was that's where she goesto get a spoon.
She comes back and her wholebowl of cereal is gone.
She finds it later trappedbehind the TV, sideways on the
wall and all of her cereals in ain a.
It went through the wall and itwas.
It was in a little pile rightnext to my bed with no milk and

(21:48):
the milk was gone.
So maybe the ghost was wantedthe milk or something.
But the funny thing is it washiding her keys.
Like, her keys are on the tableand she finds them in a dresser
drawer, second drawer, down inthe middle of all these clothes.
So it was constantly hiding herkeys, yeah, and they would

(22:11):
never disclose that the placewas haunted.
But my room used to howl in themiddle of the night.
It was like a suction with air.
But it's because I had a portalin my room and I didn't know it
.
It was in my closet and so I washaving faces appear in my
closet on my glass mirror and Ihad all these faces appearing

(22:35):
and it was scaring the shit outof me.
At first I was trying to watcha movie in my room and I'm just
laying in bed and I gotgoosebumps and I'm scared.
I'm like literally feelingscared.
So I go, you know what?
Screw it.
So I grabbed a marker andstarted drawing, uh, glasses and
mustaches and cigars out ofthere with smoke, and there was

(22:58):
like five of them, fivedifferent faces that I was
drawing glasses on.
And so people come in my room.
They go hey, hey, what's onyour mirror?
I go off.
You don't want to know, I go,I'm just practicing my art.
But you know I was mocking thething because it was pissing me
off.
It was, it was attaching andattacking me all the time.

(23:19):
Every night I'd lay in bed andI was scared, shitless.
It would turn my stereo on inthe middle of the night, full
force, so it's up to 10 and thething, my stereo would just go
off.
I turn it off and go.
I'd go back to bed and I'd turnit back on.
I'd pull the plug out of thewall and turn it back on.
And then it turned an alarm onon my oven, which I had no idea

(23:44):
there was an alarm on my oven.
So I pulled the plug out of myoven, out of the wall, and the
alarm on it went off again andit was just constantly messing
with me.
And one time I woke up and itwas on my.
My comforter was like waveringlike this really fast, like a

(24:05):
hundred miles an hour, and Isaid, uh, if you're real, prove
it.
So my comforter started movingand then all of a sudden I got
choked.
And the first time I got chokedI yelled the word Jesus and
then boom, this thing jumped offme.
It shot off me and I jumped upand I'm like what the hell?
That was real, I was gettingchoked.
So the next night I go back tosleep and I'm getting choked

(24:28):
again.
So I go to say the word Jesus,because my friend said if you
say the word Jesus, they flee,they jump off you.
So tell me, that's not proofthat Jesus is God.
So anyways, next thing, youknow, this thing puts its thumbs
in my trachea notch and chokesme and I went, and I went.

(24:50):
I said hey, and it still jumped.
It jumped off me again.
I jumped up and I startedshadowboxing.
I got like two, two rounds.
I got two rounds in with elbowsand headbutts.

Erik Paulson (25:01):
It's really cool are you familiar with uh,
whether you want to call themaliens, entities, demons, angels
are you familiar with whenpeople say they get abducted and
they say the name jesus christ?
They say that these entitiesflee and they disappear.

"$awbuck" Mike (25:18):
That means they're fallen angels or so
usually like aliens, a lot oftimes could be fallen angels.
But there's also a lot ofgovernment experimental that
they do the abductions andthings experimental, uh, and
they also do implants also solike there's places that where
they'll take you.

(25:39):
So sometimes they can abductyou physically and then
sometimes they'll grab youastrally.
There's two ways of abduction.
A lot of people don't know that.
They pull you out of your bodyand then they'll do their stuff
to you, whether it's tying youoff or implanting you in your
head or the back.
One of my good friends wasgetting abducted regularly and

(26:03):
he was from Michigan, fromLansing, and I found out that
Lansing was a hotspot for UFOactivity because of the base.
There's a UFO base in the waterthere, lake Michigan, wow,
because it's such a big, deeplake.
So he was getting abductedregularly.
His mom said that he thought itwas his friends picking him up

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at two in the morning because ofall the bright lights, but she
would get frozen and then they'dcome in through.
He said they'd come in throughthe walls and then they would
work on him.
The first time he said, thislittle blue guy walked in and
put his hands and he went toyell mom and then it just

(26:44):
touched his head and he wassilent, yelling mom, but nothing
was coming out.
They scanned him and then hesaid then the abductions
happened regularly and a lot ofgrays.
They also told him they need toget into biological engineering
because they were going to helphim excel and work on that and

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maybe, maybe, who knows, maybehe was a gray before.
Some people have star seeds,their star seeds, and they have
information or they worked withthem or maybe part of them
before.
And there's a big controversy.
Most Christians say thatbecause of the Bible, they say

(27:27):
that reincarnation never existed.
And then I talked to anotherguy and he said oh, I think it
was a demon before, that livedbefore.
That comes in and then tricksyou into believing you lived
before.
I truly believe you have manylives.
I don't think that, I don'tthink you can, I don't think
coming here one time is enough.

(27:48):
There's not.
There's not enough time tolearn everything and I think you
have to learn.
Your soul will learn and getolder and it evolves.
But uh, again, you know, ifreincarnation didn't exist, why
does, like kent state and allthese other major colleges, have
programs on reincarnation wherethey're doing tons of case

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studies.
But you know, two of mychristian friends says they
don't believe it.
They don't believe it at all.
They said it's not biblical.
And I go there's also a lot of,there's a lot of texts that was
taken out of the Bible.
Right, a lot of things weretaken out because it was too
revealing.
Look at the book of Enoch.
There's what?
Two or three books of Enoch?
There's at least two.

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And there's also two Enochsthat people don't know.
There was a good one and a badone.
You know, you're not built upthe pyramids, you guys know that
the giants I didn't know thatexactly.

Erik Paulson (28:44):
Yeah, you know the giants.

"$awbuck" Mike (28:46):
Enoch is the one .
Well, the giants were createdfrom the spawning of the egg,
the fallen angels, they said athird of the angels followed
Lucifer or Satan when he wascast to earth and when he hit
the earth.
I think the angels that werecast to earth hit the earth like
a meteorite because they werethumped or blown with his breath

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out of heaven when they crossedover the threshold and decided
to follow him, and that's whythey're fine.
They found 200 craters thatthey can't explain.
There's no meteorite, there'sno volcanic activity under it.
They found like 200 cratersthat they don't know how to
explain what they are, whatthey're from, and they think
it's for angels hitting theground because they're going

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straight down the holes, likewhen a meteor hits.

Erik Paulson (29:35):
It leaves a like a elongated crater, but these are
going straight up and down.
I know exactly what you'retalking about and just boom.

"$awbuck" Mike (29:43):
So that's it.
And then then there's also likea new world order thing at the
top of a mountain and they have200 seats there yeah, Hermon,
which is where they supposedlyangels came down.
Mount Hermon, yeah, is exactlywhere they were cast to.

Erik Paulson (30:01):
There's a military base there now.

"$awbuck" Mike (30:03):
Of course.
And the other thing is the factthat they were not supposed to
mate with the humans, becausethey're made of light, we're
made of mud or clay, and thenthe genies or the djinn, they're
made from fire.
And the genies were messingaround with us, giving us the

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wishes, and sometimes it wasgood and sometimes it was bad.
They would trick you, so that'swhy they were thumped into
another dimension.
Same with the fairies, the fairthey were thumped into another
dimension.
Same with the fairies thefairies were thumped into
another dimension.
A lot of the elemental spiritswere thumped into another
dimension because they weremessing with the humans.

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Now they're coming out with alot of movies and stories on the
fairies and what they did.
Everyone thinks they're bad.
They're elemental spirits.
I mean, I have had severaloccasions because I go outside
all the time, but I had thingsmessing with me.

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I have like a little whitething.
I fall asleep and I can see ifit's black or white, and this
one was white.
It was messing with me allnight.
It kept landing on me and waslike flicking my ear and
sometimes they poke your feet,and so this one just kept.
It was all over.
So I called my friend.

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I have a woman that I work withregularly that clears me,
probably at least once a monthShe'll clear me.
She'll check in to see what'son me or around me, and
sometimes I was getting attackedregularly.
I used to get attacked everyThursday night for two straight

(31:50):
years, but I would get attackedall the time and I always had in
my haunted places.
There was always spirits.
They opened portals and then Iworked with a guy named Michael
Gummerman out of Sedona, and heused to shut all the portals and
then and then send them off.
He would bring in all thearchangels.
So he worked with thearchangels Michael Gabriel,

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uriel, raphael, through God,through the Holy Spirit, through
Christ, and asked them toassign the angels for protection
and removal and to cut all thecords and to pull out all the
roots and all the debris.
And that was Michael Gummerman.
And a lot of times I would getcourted.

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So there was a time when I wastraining all my fighters and I
don't know who it came from.
Well, I kind of probably do,but anyways, I was at Brock's
house training Brock Lesnar forhis camp and I did that for
seven years.
But I remember waking up.
My wife and I were sleepingdownstairs and there was a it

(32:55):
looked like a tornado of twinethat was sitting like this and
hovering in my doorway and I gowhat's that?
It looks like twine, it lookslike a big spool of twine and it
was like this, like it was niceand big.
It was about seven feet talland it was just sitting there

(33:16):
and I didn't know what it was.
Have you heard about that?

"Headhunter" Higgins (33:19):
No, I've never heard anything like that.

"$awbuck" Mike (33:22):
It was cording.
So what they do is they tie itaround your body to slow you
down.
So if you're doing a lot ofspiritual work, they cord you.
In the middle of the night Iwould wake up and see a spool of
cord hovering above me.
Sometimes it was white, butmost of the night I would wake
up and see a spool of cordhovering above me.
Sometimes it was white, butmost of the times it was black
and I would wake up and just seea big spool.

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It looked like a fishing linethat's all messed up, just
hovering.
And that's when they're cordingyou.
They tie you off and it got tothe point where I couldn't even
lift my legs up.
So I sparred one day and Icouldn't even lift my leg above
my waist.
I go, what the hell is going on?
And then and then I couldn'tpunch.

(34:03):
And then I remember it feltlike I was getting choked and in
the middle of the night I keptgoing like this, like I go,
there's something around my neckand I kept doing this, pulling
this thing down, and I would putmy finger and I could actually,
like, open it and then breathecorrectly.
So they tied my neck off, theytied my my shoulders off and

(34:25):
they tied my hips and they tiedmy ankles off.
So I went to a seminar in Texasand my friend his name is Dr
Patrick price and he died andcame back.
So he has the ability of vision.
He could see actually inside ofpeople.
And so he looked right at me.

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He goes hey, I need to talk toyou.
So he waited till lunch and hegoes listen, I need to do some
work on you.
He goes you're all corded off.
He goes you have cordingeverywhere.
He goes you've been doing a lotof spiritual work and it was
funny because I was like, yeah,I actually have been.
There's a lot of people thatwere sick.

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I was praying.
I worked for a chapel that wascalled St Martin de Porres
Ministries and I worked withthis exorcist lady.
She's a healer and an exorcist,so we dealt with people who had
cancer.
We had a little baby thathadn't cried.
It was two years old.
She blessed him and startedcrying.

(35:28):
We had tons of differentexcursions and situations, but
most of the people that werethere were there because they
were possessed.
So the first rule is, when youwalk in, don't look at anyone in
the eyes, look at the tip oftheir nose but don't look in
their eye.
And because I have a huge habitof looking into one person, not
person's eyes, I look into oneeye and then I go inside.

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I've always done that as alittle kid.
That's how I can figure peopleout right away.
Usually I don't look at theireyes, I look at one eye and then
I go inside of them and then Ithought that was normal.
I didn't know.
Then I was in fourth grade and Icreeped these girls out.
They go your eyes are creepy.
And I go thanks.

(36:11):
And they go we're going to callyou ghosts from now on.
And I go yeah, I was in fourthgrade.
And I go well, I feel sorry,not for you or you, but I feel
sorry for you.
In the middle and she goes why?
And I go because your grandma,your grandma died.
And she goes what?
I go, she's standing rightbehind you.
And they go ah, they took herfrom you, but that was real, her

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grandma was standing behind herfrom you, but that was real,
her grandma was standing behindher.
So I mean, I didn't, and that'swhat freaked people out, because
I had the ability, likeyesterday, it was weird, I
freaked myself out yesterday,one of my students, his purple
belt was gone.
He's at practice five days aweek, six days a week, and he
hadn't been there for two weeks.
I go where's Chris?
So Chris comes in he's got alittle bit of a tan, he's asian

(36:57):
and he comes in and I go chris,where have you been?
I go, hold on.
I go hey, you guys chris beenslack and go after him.
Uh, inspiring, go after himbecause his wind's not what it
should be, because he was on thebeach in the bahamas drinking
pina coladas with his mom.
And then he goes you're right,and I go.

(37:18):
What he goes?
Yeah, I was, I was in theBahamas.
I just got back from theBahamas, I was with my mom and I
was like what the hell?
But that's how I kept hearingBahamas, bahamas, bahamas.
So I just spouted out, I wasright.

"Headhunter" Higgins (37:36):
I think that some people are just more
gifted to the, you know, seeingthe other side or having a
spiritual gift or beingsensitive to those type of
things.

"$awbuck" Mike (37:44):
Sensitive yeah, I think sensitive is one, and
then the other is hyper aware.
I know, when I was a little kidI'd sit in class and I'd listen
to the teacher talk and I couldtell you every person walking
by the room just out ofperipheral vision, I would name
whoever would walk by.
It's weird.

(38:04):
And then I go okay, billy'sover here picking his nose, this
guy's writing a love letter tohis girlfriend, jill's over
there putting her gum underneaththe desk, you know.
So it was really weird.
I was super hyper aware and Ithought everyone was like that.
I didn't know that people werezombies.

(38:25):
A lot of people, a lot ofpeople are zombies.

"Headhunter" Higgins (38:28):
I wanted to get back to a little story.
You told us some of thewrestlers outside of the dollar
store about how you basicallyserved as an exorcist after a
seminar and I know Michael lovedthis because Mike's been trying
to get exorcist guests on theshow.

"$awbuck" Mike (38:43):
Well, so I worked at St Martin de Porres
Ministries, not on purpose.
My girlfriend got possessed.
I was down in Mexico onValentine's Day and I was down
there selling baby doll jacketsand dresses and I thought I had
a sweet deal lined up to startselling them in Mexico.
I'd buy them in Venice and, asfor extra money, I would sell

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baby doll dresses wholesale.
So I had dresses and jacketsand T-shirts or button-up shirts
.
They're pretty cool.
It's all batik.
You know the batik stuff.
Anyways, I go down there and Ijust stayed at a hotel with my
girlfriend at the time and shewent into one room.

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She goes, I don't like thisroom, I don't feel comfortable.
So they put us in another roomand the other room we went in
was red, it was weird and itfelt like electrically charged.
But I was tired because I drove.
So I went to bed, I went tosleep and she was attacked all
night long and in the morningshe was tattered.

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She goes, I've been attackedall night long.
She goes.
You were sleeping like a babyand I was getting attacked all
night long.
They wouldn't leave me aloneand so she said can you put me
to sleep?
I go, you sure she goes, yeah,I go, all right.
So I put my hand on her headand I brought my hand over her
eyes.
She passed out, she leftobviously must have left her

(40:11):
body when I did that and she had14 demons jump in her.
So when she woke up, she wascrying.
I was shaking her, trying towake her up.
She was convulsing and Ithought she was having a seizure
.
So I was shaking her, trying towake her up and next thing, you
know, she wouldn't wake up,wouldn't wake up.

(40:33):
So I started slapping her alittle bit to wake her up and
I'm shaking her, and then Istarted throwing elbows out of
nowhere.
I did, I didn't even.
I couldn't even uh, stopbecause I was in fight mode.
So I was elbowing her.
No, I'm kidding, I didn't helpher and so I slept.
I was shaking her like this andI give her one of these and one
of these I go, wake up, wake up,wake up.

(40:55):
She finally woke up and juststarted crying, like wouldn't
stop crying, wouldn't stopcrying, and I go, what's wrong?
And she jumped out of bed andshe grabbed my ears and she goes
, she's inside of me.
And I was like, oh shit, yeah,who?
And so, anyways, when I go,let's go's go, let's go, let's

(41:19):
get out of here, let's go.
She goes, okay, she walksoutside, she starts looking
around like she's never seenoutside before.
And then she gets in her carand she doesn't even know she
had one of those electric seatbelts that go up and over your
body and she didn't even knowand it went around her head and
she just started freaking outand I go, you know what I'm
gonna drive?

(41:39):
Just sit down.
And she didn't know how theseatbelt worked.
But it was her car.
And then I pulled out.
She had a notebook there fordirections you write.
So I said, do me a favor, writeyour name.
And she scribbled some otherwoman's name.
It wasn't even her handwriting,it was different handwriting.

"Headhunter" Higgins (41:58):
That's terrifying.
What are you thinking at thismoment?

"$awbuck" Mike (42:00):
I said do it again, sign your name, write
your name, who are you?
She wrote it again.
She wrote it like four times,five times.
It wasn't even her handwriting.
And I go, oh shit, so now Iwriting.

(42:21):
And I go, oh, so now I'm like,okay, now I'm nervous, not
scared, but kind of like, uh,either this girl's a really
great actress or I'm in trouble.
So I'm driving back, I get backover the line.
I'm in san diego.
I stopped at a church.
You walk into the church and tolisten, um, pastor, uh, father,
or whoever it was it was aminister or whatever I said, hey
, can you help me?

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I said I was in mexico with mygirlfriend.
I think she picked up a evilspirit, and she starts laughing,
she goes and she goes, leave,he left.
So we stop at another churchand I go excuse me, sir, I need

(43:03):
to talk to you.
I'm having an emergencysituation.
I think my girlfriend picked upsome evil spirits or spirit and
, uh, can you help us?
And she goes.
She just looked him, looked athim, she goes.
He can't help us.
He loves she goes.
She just looked at him, shegoes.
He can't help us, he loveslittle kids.
And I was like, oh my gosh,leave.

(43:23):
So I went to another church itwas a Catholic church and I
asked the priest.
I said can I ask you something?
I said do you think, if someonegets possessed, that these
demons are always present whenthe person is conscious?
Are they always there?

(43:45):
So they're alternate ego?
He said yes, and I said Idisagree.
I think they're hiding.
I think they hide and then theycome out at certain times.
They come out and they hide andhe said I don't believe that.
And I go okay, well, you can'thelp me then.
So he said if she's possessed,then she would be constantly in
that possessed state and I saidI disagree with you.

(44:07):
So anyway, she picked up 14demons.
I ended up going to a chapel inLA called St Martin de Porres
Ministries and the lady was afriend of her family's and she
was the only exorcist in all ofCalifornia, aside from a man who
was in San Diego, that I had tolook up and find from the
Catholic priest.

(44:28):
Sorry, my friend was a Jesuitpriest and they know where all
the exorcists are, priest, andthey know where all the
exorcists are, and uh.
So I ended up finding out that,uh, there was a lady in la and
it just so happened she was afriend of her families and then
I heard the story when she wasin new york.

(44:49):
Her name was sister josie dechozo filipina and at the time
she was 60, but she looked likeshe was about 40.
So at the time she would.
Oh, she went to New York, to NewYork service and the Archbishop
of New York said Sister Josie,would you come up and bless me
in front of a congregation of500 people Sorry, a thousand

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people with 500 priests present.
It was like a huge ordeal.
So she walks up there andblesses the priest or the
archbishop and he falls overbackwards, she's slated with the
Holy Spirit and thenimmediately she goes.
Children rise up and all thechildren came to the aisles and
she was blessing every child andeveryone's falling over left

(45:36):
and right.
They go boom, boom, boom.
They took pictures of her andthere was a ball of light the
size of a soccer ball, a whiteball of light, whiter than
whiter than light.
It was whiter than the sun andsuper bright light, and it was
either on her hand, it was ontheir head or it was behind
behind her.
That's the Holy Spirit present.

(45:56):
They got several pictures ofthe Holy Spirit present when
she's blessing everybody and herhand vibrates.
So she put the cross and thenboop, boop, boop, boop, boop,
boop, boop, and then bang, holySpirit would slay, it, go right
through her.
Boom, next, next, next, next,next, next, next, next.
So the kids are falling likethis.

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She gets to the end of the aisle.
The lady goes please bless mymom.
She was not till the endbecause her mom was in a
wheelchair.
So she gets to the end andthere's a lady that was blind
and she had a seeing eye dog andshe blessed the lady and the
lady's vision was restored andher dog fell over backwards
unconscious.
She slayed the dog and then sheblessed the lady who asked if

(46:41):
she could bless her mom.
And then she blessed her mom inthe wheelchair and she said
okay, she's fine, she can get itup and she goes.
She can't.
She's been in a wheelchair forlike 20 years.
She blessed her and she goes.
No, you're fine, your legs work, get up, she goes, get up.
I'm commanding you to get upnow.
She goes, you're fine, get up.

(47:02):
The lady stood up and was thefirst one in the food line
getting food with her tray.
That's how I heard.
That's what I heard about thislady, sister Josie.
Next thing you know, I'm tryingto carry this girl into the
chapel and her feet and herhands stop on the door and she
goes I'm not going in there,they're going to kill me.

(47:23):
They're going to kill me, I'mnot going in there.
And it was upstairs and I waslike.
So I finally put her over myshoulder and walked up the
stairs and I introduced myselfand I said sorry to meet you
under these circumstances, butI'm in trouble.

(47:44):
And she goes, rochelle, that'swhat she said.
She goes, go in the other room.
And I said you know her.
And she said yes, I know herfamily.
She put a rosary on her and sheput her in the other room and
she said sit in front of thealtar with the two angels and
the cross and she goes, startpraying.
So she went in there and shesaid what happened?
I had to say what happened, soyou got to figure.
I mean, I've been driving forthree hours because we're

(48:04):
stopping at these churches and,uh, all of a sudden I can
finally get to la like 10, 30 atnight, just tattered, and then
all of a sudden she goes.
You're gonna have to stay awakefor 24 hours and pray over her
and her parents.
We need to call her parents.
That's funny.
Her dad's like what color is he?

(48:25):
She goes, he's white, he goes.
That's why.
Because her dad was uh, fil Momand dad were Filipino, filipino
, filipino, yeah.
So I was like that's not why,that's not why.
So, anyways, it was because Iput my hand on her head and she
left and I didn't know I had thepower to do that.

(48:48):
I didn't know I had the powerto put my hand on someone's head
and make them leave.
You know, if I did, I wouldhave done that more when I was
fighting.
Imagine what happened to theguy His soul left, his body.

"Headhunter" Higgins (49:00):
TKO soul knockout.

"$awbuck" Mike (49:03):
But anyway.
So what happened from there isshe came out of the chapel she
was sitting there with me and Igrabbed a bottle of holy water,
water and I sprayed it down herthroat and called in St Michael,
because Sister Josie alreadyprayed over it.
Called in Father, son and HolySpirit.

(49:24):
Called Father, son and HolySpirit in.
And then I asked for Michael'spresence and he came in like a
bolt of lightning, just huge andblue, just big blue light.
And when I sprayed the holywater down her throat I said the
St Michael prayer and she waschoking.
And then she couldn't repeatthe prayer, she couldn't say

(49:46):
spirit, or couldn't say whatwould she say holy spirit?
And then she couldn't say jesus, she would say start stuttering
and then start laughing andthen crying.
And that's how I knew I was introuble.
Then, all of a sudden, this ladycomes running out of the back

(50:06):
room and she goes oh my god, thecandles just blew out.
And sister goes well, thecandles never blow out.
And then she started laughing.
She was, I blew the candles out, but it wasn't her talking, it
was the witch that was in her.
She had a witch with, uh, 14,other 14, I don't know what, if
they're entities or demons orwhat, but she called them devils

(50:29):
.
So you know like maybe becauseshe was asian, they call them
devils, which are demons.
But she goes, she has 14 devilsin her.
That's what they told her, andthe one that was hiding was a
witch.
So I got her name and I shegoes, do you know her name?
And I said, yes, she told me.

(50:49):
She wrote it down.
She goes, show me.
So I had to show her the nameand then that's how you get a
hold of them and that's how youcommand them out.
You got to get their name first, so it took 40 days.
We had to pray for 40 days toweaken them and then they had to

(51:09):
be cast out 40 days later.
So she had to quit her job.
So I had to drive there everynight and train for a fight.
My first fight that's whenBrandon Lee passed away.
I was trying to get ready for afight and I'm going to a chapel.
I'm working as a bartender atnight and then after work I'm
driving out there to stay thereand sleep, sleep on the floor.

(51:32):
I had to stay awake for 24hours.
So I actually learned theentire rosary.
I learned the Holy ChapletDivine, what's it called?
All the mysteries?
I learned the entire rosary byheart in 24 hours.
I could recite it all by memory.

(51:53):
In fact, when I went to achurch in the west coast, they
go, we have a guest and he'sgoing to lead the rosary, and I
go, I am and I led the rosary,and they go, you're not going to
read, I go.
No, I know it by memory.
So I memorized the whole thing,the five revolutions with the
whole thing, and it was prettycrazy.

(52:14):
So it was actually uh, themysteries, all the mysteries.
Have you guys?
Are you guys catholic?
so you know, the sorrowfulmystery the.
The rosary basically prettymuch, yeah, I.
The rosary basically Prettymuch, yeah, I think the rosary.

(52:35):
If you pray the rosary today, Istill think it's powerful.
This lady was saying that theysaw all these soldiers praying
the rosary and they had a ringof fire around them.
And then a lot of the Sataniststhat can see say a lot of times
they can see who has firearound them and who doesn't.

(52:56):
The fire is the protection ofprayer from the Holy Spirit.
It's like fire but it's aroundyou and they know if someone's
prayed over, like if you prayover kids, they can see that the
kids are prayed over, protected.
And then they can also see theadults who pray, who regularly
pray and have the Holy Spiritpresent to fire.

"Headhunter" Higgins (53:19):
I don't think it's a coincidence, and
you kind of said it yourself alittle bit too.
Most of the best fighters arestrictly religious and have
strong spiritual foundation.

"$awbuck" Mike (53:30):
Well, maybe because there were warriors in
the past.
You know, that's another thing.
I mean, I definitely feel likeI've bludgeoned some people.
Yeah, I definitely like whenI'm fighting it feels normal,
but I feel like a spirit comeout.
I feel like the spirit evenwhen I throw axes and I shoot,

(53:50):
when I shoot bow and arrow.
I took bow and arrow practice.
I took archery in college and Iwas like my best shot.
I was the best shot in class.
They go why are you so accurate?
I go I have no idea.
And did I tell you the story ofwhen I went to Jason Momoa's

(54:11):
house?
No, so I saw Jason Momoa atSprouts.
I was on my way to do a seminarup at Cold Steel and I saw him
on the way and I said hi, jason,my name is Eric Paulson, I'm
friends with Chad Stahelski from8711.
And Chad asked if I could helpchoreograph your next movie.

(54:33):
So you have a movie that youwere supposed to do that got
pushed.
This is before he becameAquaman.
I said uh, so it got pushed andwe're going to shoot it later.
Well, I was the guy that wassupposed to train you and all
the martial art, do all themartial arts for you and he goes
what's your name?
And I told him and he, he goes.
So he looks me up and I get tomy car, I start driving off in

(54:58):
my car and, uh, I drive by him,I go nice to meet you, and he
goes, stop.
And he looks me up.
He goes hey, I have a house upin topanga, topanga canyon, up
on the hill, and you just followthe trail all the way up there.
He's got a compound and he'sgot motor homes here and there

(55:21):
and he's got wolves and he's gothe built a roller skating ramp.
And then he shoots arch, shootsarchery, throws axes and throws
, uh, knives.
And he said do you shoot?
And I go yeah.
So he pulled out a bow, hestrung it up and he goes shoot

(55:45):
the, shoot the hog.
So first shot, I go like this,you know, I, I never shot this
bow before.
So first shot, I let it go andit goes right over its back and
he goes looks like we're eatingpotatoes and vegetables tonight.
And I go hold on.
Second shot, boom, right in theheart.
And he goes wow, he's prettygood, he goes.

(56:06):
How about the deer behind that?
I go up higher and he goes yeah, I go go, all right.
Boom, right in the heart.
He goes whoa?
He goes, who are you?
And I go, I don't know yet.
And then so he goes, you throwaxes.
And I've never thrown axes.
And he goes all right, let meteach you the pace.
It's eight paces.
So you, he's got this huge woodtarget this thing is 10 feet

(56:30):
tall and probably that thick,and he's got a body drawn on it
with the head and the shouldersand everything.
So he goes uh, all right, everyeight pace you throw an axe.
So I walk back eight paces andI go like this and I go it goes
right in the head.
Throw the act.

(56:50):
First shot, right in the head.
Second shot I go eight pacesback.
Boom, left shoulder.
Eight paces back.
Boom, right shoulder.
Eight paces back.
Boom, right in the stomach.
Eight paces back.
Boom, right in the crotch.
I was going to do one moreeight pace back, that would have

(57:10):
been six times eight paces back.
And everyone goes stop, no,don't throw, they go.
If you miss, then all thoseother throws that you did won't
count.
And he goes who are you?
It was funny, but it's weird.

(57:33):
I felt an Indian and aikingspirit coming out of me both
kind of both indian and viking,so that was odd.
Uh, yeah, that was weird andI'd never thrown an axe.
It's really crazy, so we hit itoff.
I was supposed to train him fora movie.
He did that movie the braven.
Do you see the braven?
No, I haven't seen it.
Uh, I was supposed to train himfor a movie.

(57:53):
He did that movie the Braven,do you?

"Headhunter" Higgins (57:54):
see the Braven.
No, I haven't seen it.

"$awbuck" Mike (57:56):
So he was a special forces guy and ended up
up there's like a drug dealerand it was a lumberjack movie.
And I said there's not reallymartial art, like you don't
really need to know martial artsfor this movie.
You just, if you're a specialforces guy, you're just, you
know, you're gonna just try tokill him and shoot him and stab

(58:18):
him.
So so he goes.
Why I need you to come up tocanada for six months and I go?
I have a school, I can't leave.
I can't leave for six months.
So that was kind of it.
And then he became aquaman.
He's still friends with all myfriends, but I got him sponsored
by Old Steel.
They gave him a bunch of axesand a samurai sword and then

(58:39):
they got mad because he startedhis own axe company.
And the weird thing is I went tobuy a lapidary.
This guy had lapidary equipment.
I went to buy lapidaryequipment from this guy and then
two doors down, I looked andthere was like this big block of
wood and I go, oh, that'sperfect for axe throwing.
And then, two doors down, Ilooked and there was like this
big block of wood and I go, oh,that's perfect for axe throwing.
And the guy goes do you throw?
And I go, yeah, I've thrown.

(59:02):
And he goes hey, look at my axe.
He shows me his axe.
I go you make this.
And he goes yeah.
And I go, that's amazing.
He goes, yeah, my partner's, mypartner's, jason memaw.
I go, oh, that's weird.
Uh, anyways, I looked at theguy.

(59:25):
I go, you have the presence ofarchangel raphael on you.
You're a minister, huh.
And he goes yeah, how'd youknow?
I don't know you.
I feel God's presence with meright now.
And then he was makingmotorcycles and axes Pretty cool
.
It's kind of weird how you meetpeople.

Erik Paulson (59:39):
For real.

"$awbuck" Mike (59:40):
But anyways, that exorcism took two years for
her to get rid of all of thesethings because they come back.
So you kick one out and theycome back with seven more.
She got the spirit of the witchout of her, transferred to
another girl that was scared.
This girl's a visionary and shewas sitting next to her and she
goes oh my god, the witch isout and it jumped into the next

(01:00:02):
girl.
Then she had to go through 40days.
It's actually a novena.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:00:08):
It's called a novena 40 day novena
wow, yeah, I uh, I dated a girlwho was very spiritually
sensitive and if we would go toa concert or like a big
gathering, she would say thatshe could see things like
jumping around from people atlike a concert or you know
especially now, especially today, there's demons.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:00:27):
they have tons of video footage of demons
bouncing on people jumping allall over, isn't that?

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:00:32):
crazy it is.
I mean maybe not to people likeus or people like you that have
been used to seeing that typeof thing, but it's almost like
the veil's thinning a little bitnow.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:00:43):
It sure is.
And also when the moon, theeclipse happened.
People are seeing demon faces.
The demons are actually showingtheir faces.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:00:55):
You know that yeah, the, the demon face
syndrome that the news wastalking about.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:00:59):
That was hilarious true, and you know
what a lot of people don't know,but they have demons in them
100, all that yeah, it's true,uh, voices, a lot of people have
voices.
Uh, alter egos, anger issues.
Another thing is, they havecravings that they didn't have

(01:01:20):
before.
You know porn addiction, whatelse?
Meat.
Sometimes they suddenly eatmeat.
This lady was pregnant and shewas craving coal.
She had an entity that wantedto eat coal all the time.
Crazy, yeah, there's tons ofcase studies that you could read
about, and there's tons of casestudies on reincarnation also

(01:01:41):
Little kids with birthmarks, andthen they remember their past
lives.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:01:45):
Past life regression?
Yeah, for sure, I was justthinking too.
With the entities, you couldbasically consider like uh, like
you said, the cravings it mademe think of.
Like uh, when people getparasites and the parasite makes
them want to, you know, eat acertain bad food, that will, uh,
make the parasite reproducemore.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:02:07):
It's like that.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:02:09):
Parasites are microscopic demons that's
basically what I was getting atthat like uh, parasites are
microscopic demons.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:02:14):
That's basically what I was getting at All you
got to do is look at their faceunder a microscope.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:02:18):
They are malevolent and tell me that
that's not a demon, right, so itcould be that on a spiritual
level, and then that even goesto like a technological level,
like with like AI bots trying tomessage you and like mess up
your software, like hack yourthing or get you to like click
on something bad.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:02:39):
It's like the demon trying to be invited in.
I had a famous actor's son cometo my gym and I went to lunch
with them and I looked at himand I go boy, the masons want
you, they want, they want you to, they want you to join them.
He goes, he kind of like, comesback and go.
They want you big time.
And I said but it's deeper thanthat, it's on a spiritual level
.
The dark ones are after you.
And he was.

(01:03:00):
He stood back and he goes.
What do you know?
And I said I think it's fromyour dad, it's your dad's
connection, definitely.
And then he goes.
Well, I want to show you myphone.
He goes, look who called methis morning.
And it was 666.
How do you get a call from 666?
And he goes.
I said, did you get a message?

(01:03:20):
He goes yeah, you want to hearit.
And I go.
I don't know, do I?
And he goes.
It's scary.
And it was a deep, growling,screeching voice and it was
talking.
It sounded metallic.
Usually a metallic soundingvoice is spirit, spirit, sound.
They sound metallic, they speakthrough your tv or like like

(01:03:41):
one time I was training kenshamrock and and uh, I went down
to san diego.
I came back and then I had toteach at night and I looked at
my tv.
I left, I played.
My friend gave me this Indianchant music to clear the energy
in my room and it did theopposite.
Oh no, because sometimes in theIndian chant music they put

(01:04:01):
spells in the music.
Do you know that?

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:04:05):
No, but it wouldn't surprise me, because
they have hundreds of gods andstuff.
I'm sure some of those weremalevolent entities, they sneak
them in.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:04:13):
So, anyways, I played this thing and I looked
at my TV and the TV screen wasblue.
All of a sudden I looked at myTV screen and I go, my TV's
going to talk to me.
And then all of a sudden itgoes Eric, I need to speak to
you.
And I go, what the hell?

(01:04:34):
And instead of letting it talk,I got scared and I turned my TV
off.
Screw that.
But again, that was the sametime period when that four foot
eye appeared above my head.
Yeah, I've had plenty of thatstuff.
I didn't know.
I was clairaudient, you couldpick up on hearing things.
Yeah.
So one time when I got blastfrom this guy, he said you know,

(01:04:56):
you have four gifts you're notusing to your highest degree.
And I go what are those?
And he goes number one, youcould see.
Number two, you could hear.
Number three, you're a teacher.
Number four, you're a healer.
And he goes what do you do?
And I go teach martial arts.
And he goes oh, not to yourfullest potential.
And then he goes what else youdo?

(01:05:21):
I go, I'm a healer, I'm amassage therapist and I work on
people who are spirituallychallenged.
And he said not to the highestlevel you can.
You have more power than youknow.
And then he said well, thatwould explain why these other
two gifts are a big part of that.
And I go what's that?
He goes, you can see and youcan hear.
And I was like, really, and hegoes, yeah, but not to your

(01:05:41):
highest level.
And I I could never understoodwhy I would hear conversations
going on around me all the timeand no one else could hear him.
I I just thought it was comingthrough the wall or somebody had
a radio on or something.
Ever since I was little, I'vealways had that happen.
And then the other thing, likeI said the whole thing with even

(01:06:08):
the kid yesterday with theBahamas, same thing, like I hear
it, like I'll hear it and thenI'll say it, and then it's true,
but I think it's your higherself.
And I asked, I said I'd like toconnect with my higher self.
They go, you already areconnected, your higher self is
already part of who you are.
And I was like okay.
So I asked again same thing.
It's all part of you.
So if you can connect to yourhigher self, that's the self

(01:06:31):
that's right between you and god, if you can connect with that
self which is your, it's you, inan all-time, seeing and knowing
time, then I think things are alot more powerful.
But I, I do a merkabameditation.
I do an ice bath and a merkabameditation every day.
So my wife bought me an icebath because my other ice bath

(01:06:54):
popped and I think the ice bathshe bought me was for a little
kid.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:06:59):
I was like this Small size.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:07:03):
My knees were in my chest.
I still did my Merkabameditation.
Have you heard of the Merkaba?
Yeah, I have Light body, yeah,it really works.
And here body, yeah, it reallyworks.
And here's the thing you don'twant to do, the.
You definitely don't want to dothe transcendental meditation
because you leave your body andthe entities jump in you.

(01:07:24):
Yep, you can open up.
Patrick Price worked on a girl.
He said she had the most demonsof anyone entities and she was
a yogi and does transcendentalmeditation.
And then, uh, he goes, you wantto see something weird?
And I go, yeah, he goes, watchthis.
And he pulled a snake out ofher.
Her jaw was dislocated and shewas arching and he pulled like a

(01:07:47):
11 foot snake out of her snakespirit.
And then another time he wasworking on a guy and the guy was
a, he used to be a whale andthe whale came out and told him
he goes, what's your name?
He goes Mon Doc, and he startedlike breathing like a whale and
spouting and apparently he waskilled.

(01:08:08):
But he got killed to save hiswife and his child.
And this guy also had anotherlife because he does something
called cellular release, wherehe pulls all of your battle
wounds from fighting out of yourbody, all your past trauma, and
he said that's when the pastlife stuff comes out.
I also know a lady.
Her name is Dr Modi.

(01:08:29):
She has many books out.
Look her up, she has some greatbooks.
She has some of the has manybooks out.
Look her up, she has some greatbooks.
She has some of the bestinformational books out and it's
on.
You find it on Amazon.
And her name is Dr Modi.
She's Indian and she's ahypnotherapist and she never
believed in all that stuff untilshe started hypnotizing people.

(01:08:50):
And then they started talkingand then she said, no, she would
find the demons in them andthen they would reveal that that
, uh, the angels would come into work on her.
She uses, uh, the holy spirit,and then the angels would step
in and then they would changethe demon back from a demon into

(01:09:11):
the angel.
They put us go, look at thespark of light in you.
Look at your spark, and they gowhat's that white spark?
And they go that's God in you.
Look at it, focus on it, andthen boom, they're transformed
back into the angel.
And then she said, when theywould transform the angel, the
demon, back into the angel thatit was, it would reveal all of
its time that it spent with God.

(01:09:33):
And then those are her storiesthat she would tell.
And she said I was ahypnotherapist looking to heal
people and treat people formental illness, and I found out
that most everyone the reasonthat they were having mental
illness, was caused from a pastlife trauma.
And she goes I never believedin past lives.
Edgar Cayce said he neverbelieved in past lives.
Edgar casey said he neverbelieved in past lives.

(01:09:53):
He was a.
He was a full-on christian,walked around with the bible in
his hand.
An angel appeared to him in thewoods in kentucky and said what
would you like to do?
And he goes I wish I could healkids.
So they granted him the abilityto heal and he became.
They called the sleeping.
They call him the sleepingprophet and he healed thousands

(01:10:14):
and thousands of people.
Right before he'd go to sleep,he would channel a doctor and
diagnose you holistically whatwas what your problem was?
And because he was a christian,he didn't believe in past lives
.
And then they said this personis having issues with their
breathing because they drownedin their past life and they need
to relive their death again.
So he would hypnotize people,they go back into their life,

(01:10:37):
how they died, and then theywould die that death and he'd
talk them through it and boom,their breathing problems would
disappear he never took moneyeither oh, he, he, uh.
Yeah, that's a true prophet.
That's, that's a true healerright there.
Definitely he's not charging uhleft testicle for uh, you know,

(01:10:59):
for healing you.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:11:00):
That's that's the true ones right there
, I uh was gonna bring up afunny coincidence about this
episode.
It's timing.
I know you're a big archangelmichael guy and that's why I
bought the little pendant atyour gym.
That one stood out to me andour my co-host here, mike Mike,
just got an Archangel Michaeltattoo, so I know he's probably
feeling it right now and wantingto bring it up.
Let me see it.

(01:11:21):
It's really cool.

"$awbuck" Mike (01:11:22):
It's still very cool.
So someone asked me why I wasspiritual or why I believed in
God so much, and I said well, ifyou have never had a
face-to-face encounter with thedevil or with a demon or demons,
then you don't believe inanything, you don't believe it.

(01:11:43):
But when you get the shitscared out of you and even to
this day I sleep with anightlight, to this day it's not
that I'm afraid of the dark,it's just nice when I'm sleeping
, because a lot of times whenI'm sleeping I'm like and then I
go like this and I peak, andthen I peak again, because half

(01:12:03):
the time I peak there'ssomething floating.
I see stuff all the time.
And I have an EarthPulsemachine from Holographic Health.
If you guys don't have one, getone.
Uh, what it does is it puts in apulse and it's scat, it's a
scatter frequency, so nothingcan manifest in your room.

(01:12:25):
So so I used to have spiritsmanifest all the time and land
on me and stuff.
And now what it does is whenthey come into my room, it, um,
it turns them into little gnatsor flies, or it looks like a
bunch of little flies, andthat's how I know that a
spirit's present, as I see abunch of flies or a spider, they

(01:12:48):
can manifest as a spider.
So now I got spiders ofmanifesting.
I kept seeing the spider comingdown from my ceiling and it had
like 12 legs, super long legs,and I hit the bed.
It was slowly walking over thepillow and I cracked it really
hard and it disappeared.
And then it appeared again andthat was good and I was like man

(01:13:08):
, I don't want to wake up withthat thing on me, no.
And then another time I I had asquid, I had a black squid
appear and then the last waslike a spiky black ball with
spikes everywhere, it'severywhere, it's everywhere,
it's everywhere, it's everywhere.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:13:24):
can't tell me that wasn't a fucking demon
dude, that was fucked up.
I uh, I like how he was doingthe blessing at the end, right,
if it would have stopped workingbro.
That would have been crazy.
I don't like that either way,though.

Erik Paulson (01:13:37):
Dude, I thought for sure.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:13:39):
Once we logged out and came back in.

Erik Paulson (01:13:41):
Once because I was the host.
So I'm thinking, okay, maybeit's something a glitch on my
end, you know what I mean.
That's something like we'vedone.
This is going to be like 40, 42or something like that.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:13:51):
Right he was preaching too much shit,
eric never had eric is a realone bro, never had.

Erik Paulson (01:13:56):
I told you.
I told you, there's so muchdude, there's so warrior of the
light, warrior, there's so much,he's targeted, he's targeted,
he dropped, dropped too muchknowledge, spiritual knowledge.

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:14:07):
He's talking about the masons, he's
talking about what he could seeand he could heal people.
They don't want this.
They don't want this type ofstuff getting out.

Erik Paulson (01:14:13):
Okay, no I don't necessarily agree with
everything he said.
That doesn't?
I mean.
I do agree with a lot of whathe said, but I don't agree with
all of what he said.
However, let's just assume thateverything that he said is
fucking how it is.
That's fucking crazy, dudecrazy.
He's got so many stories I knowman.
When he said that there was awitch in her, I was like oh

(01:14:35):
they're real dude, yeah you know, yeah, so he's an archangel
michael guy for sure yeah, youknow, I don't know that's so
weird.
I know what he was talking about, about the I was just seeing,
so I was just watching somethingabout that.
How you know, typically whenmeteors come in, they leave like
you know what I mean like adugout.
These are going like 90 degrees, like boom, straight down they

(01:14:59):
found stuff like that everywhereeverywhere everywhere,
everywhere, everywhere you haveme for a second.
What is that not again, not thesame word, dude.
I want to, uh, I want him to gointo detail about if he

(01:15:19):
believes he was in ufc one,would he have won?

"Headhunter" Higgins (01:15:23):
yeah, yeah , I wonder if he thinks he could
have took hoist back then yeah,I want to be like you know.

Erik Paulson (01:15:27):
If if you would have entered, if you're allowed,
do you think you had what ittakes to to win.
Yeah, we definitely got tofinish it so two open-ended part
two coming up next week.
Until then, stay away frompedophiles.
Thank you, bye.
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